After we’re gone, our machines would keep going
Back in the more innocent pre-9/11 days, I wrote a weekly technology column for the AJC called “Next,” exploring some of the cutting-edge work going on in labs around the country. It was a lot of fun. Some of the strangest, coolest stuff came out of the Pentagon-funded DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.
They’d fund things like research into rats with special devices implanted in their brain that would allow you to steer them as you would a remote-controlled car. The official idea was that the remote-controlled rats could be used for humanitarian missions such as locating victims buried beneath rubble in earthquakes. It went unmentioned that such creatures could also be used for other things, such as sneaking a bomb into an otherwise secure area.
A Maryland company under contract to the Pentagon is working on a steam-powered robot that would fuel itself by gobbling up whatever organic material it can find — grass, wood, old furniture, even dead bodies.
Robotic Technology Inc.’s Energetically Autonomous Tactical Robot — that’s right, “EATR” — “can find, ingest, and extract energy from biomass in the environment (and other organically-based energy sources), as well as use conventional and alternative fuels (such as gasoline, heavy fuel, kerosene, diesel, propane, coal, cooking oil, and solar) when suitable,” reads the company’s Web site.
That “biomass” and “other organically-based energy sources” wouldn’t necessarily be limited to plant material — animal and human corpses contain plenty of energy, and they’d be plentiful in a war zone.
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josef nix
July 16th, 2009
5:08 pm
Remember the neutron bomb?
Stan
July 16th, 2009
5:10 pm
It’s only weird the first time!
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 16th, 2009
5:11 pm
How many calories per Raghead?
Normal
July 16th, 2009
5:12 pm
If you saw my truck, you wouldn’t say that…
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 16th, 2009
5:13 pm
Can anyone imagine this thing trying to shove someone the size of Michelle Obozo into it’s gut?
Wouldn’t that be a monumental struggle.
It could go for freaking weeks after that meal.
Normal
July 16th, 2009
5:13 pm
Does anybody watch the History Channels “Life After Humans”? That’s a cool show…
Normal
July 16th, 2009
5:14 pm
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 16th, 2009
5:11 pm
How many calories per Raghead?
Can’t be many They all look like nothing but gristle…
Stan
July 16th, 2009
5:15 pm
Yeah I saw that Normal, it was pretty cool.
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
5:17 pm
NORMAL–so good I even watched it on repeat.
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 16th, 2009
5:17 pm
If the libs are in charge when this thing gets deployed, will it be equipped a white flag?
Just sayin….
Better put some Nikes on this bad boy too.
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
5:18 pm
NORMAL–all gristle? Don’t know. I’m layin’ odds they’s some awful big gals under them black bedspreads…
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 16th, 2009
5:20 pm
Now wouldn’t that be a sight, the libs surrendering their robot army, hahahaha, oh stop it.
Trust me
July 16th, 2009
5:21 pm
Not to worry, Jay. Once it goes out for competitive bids and finally gets into optimized profit plus cost production, it’ll go the way of those stainless steel welds on four miles of formerly inhabitable pristine island. One minute, its churning along without a glitch and the next…it’s the thing that Barbarella movies are made of. The next thing you know, some thousands of years later, a lost little girl will stumble across one of the rusted marvels of technology while on her yellow bricked journey and, well, you know the rest of that story. The things dreams are made of.
Anyway, I’ve digressed enough. What do you suppose they’ll call the battlefield version of the thing? The Bloody Roomba.
Normal
July 16th, 2009
5:22 pm
NORMAL–all gristle? Don’t know. I’m layin’ odds they’s some awful big gals under them black bedspreads…
—
I wonder if they’d be any good in gumbo?
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
5:23 pm
NORMAL–”…pound of pastrami, saurkraut, bring home for Emily…” “Lucifer has fallen,,,” Hmmm
@@
July 16th, 2009
5:24 pm
human corpses contain plenty of energy
So why are we using valuable land resources for cemeteries. Can’t we just have the robots consume the dead here?
Is their some sensor in the robot that determines it’s a dead corpse as opposed to an unconscious person?
Can these robots scare the bejeebers out of terrorists without fear of prosecution?
DoggoneGA
July 16th, 2009
5:26 pm
“Does anybody watch the History Channels “Life After Humans”? That’s a cool show”
Not to me it isn’t…it’s too full of BS
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
5:26 pm
NORMAL–”I wonder if they’d be any good in gumbo?”
Could be, seen a couple over on the West Bank in Algiers…
Normal
July 16th, 2009
5:26 pm
Josef, everybody in the freakin’ office wants to read that book…sheesh
Normal
July 16th, 2009
5:27 pm
DoggoneGA
July 16th, 2009
5:26 pm
—–
How so, Doggone?
George American
July 16th, 2009
5:27 pm
How many calories per done choone is funnier, Whiner.
Brad Steel
July 16th, 2009
5:28 pm
Do there machines fart?
Paul
July 16th, 2009
5:29 pm
DARPA’s into some neat stuff – well, researching it, anyway. I’ve enjoyed some novels by Dale Brown. In several of them, special forces operators use an exsoskeleton, powered with microactuators. After a few novels were published, I’d read DARPA had funded a research effort. Now we read about such devices being developed for soldiers – not the whole outfit, but for legs and shoulders. Seems battery power was a problem
Then I read about another DARPA projects wherein nanotechnology was being used to power items – part of the generation process was the movement of parts of the object. Seems that breakthrough would make a full-fledged exoskeleton feasible.
Pretty remarkable progress. But that EATR – ethicists are going to have fun with that one.
Scooter
July 16th, 2009
5:31 pm
Whiner, your 5:11 Too funny! You never cease to amaze me.
George American
July 16th, 2009
5:39 pm
How many calories per camel jockey is good too.
DoggoneGA
July 16th, 2009
5:40 pm
“How so, Doggone?”
The problem with shows like that is they make assumptions about how, in particular, the remaining living creatures will react. Once you see something you know for a FACT is BS, then you (or least *I*) start wondering how much more of it is BS. They had an episode about how dogs would react, and in particular Greyhounds escaped from a racing kennel. In that episode some so-called expert made the assertion that Greyhounds were so competitive they would fight and kill each other over food and would, therefore, die out quickly.
It’s true that Greyhounds are competitive…but not over food. When they race, they know perfectly well it’s a game…and running is one way they have of establishing dominance heirarchies. But literally HUNDREDS of people have taken rescue Greyhounds off the track and run them in hunting, competive open field coursing for hares, and in an artificial sport that mimics their hunting style-called lure coursing.
And if you ever go to one of these events, you will see Greyhounds that don’t know each other and that have never run together run in a coordinated, cooperative hunt – like a well-oiled machine. Cooperatively working to catch the prey, or to catch the lure. It’s an awesome thing to see – and I don’t use that word in it’s current, debased form. It is truly awesome.
What WOULD militate against Greyhounds would be a predominance of forested land. They are “sight hounds” who CAN use their scenting abilities, but who rely primarily on speed and sight. (think Cheetahs here) and they are, therefore, not as agile as a slower dog would be. So forested land is not their best hunting territory. But anywhere where it doesn’t get too cold, but is still open grassland would be right up their alley, and they would quite likely form a successful strain of sight-hunting packs.
Scooter
July 16th, 2009
5:40 pm
Brad Steel, yes they fart. How do you think they motivate?
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
5:42 pm
NORMAL–not sure if they should read it. Have to be careful who is let in on it…but
Doggone–think you would be able to appreciate it if you haven’t read it already, “A Canticle for Leibowitz” by Walter Miller.
DoggoneGA
July 16th, 2009
5:45 pm
“A Canticle for Leibowitz”
I might…but I find very little in science fiction that I really like. Far too often there’s some supposition that eventually falls over itself and that ruins the book for me. The Harry Potter books are fun to read, but they are full of holes in the logic and the magic.
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 16th, 2009
5:46 pm
Wait until the FDA figures this out, they’ll make Raghead into a food group and then regulate it.
And New York City will of course tax each Raghead meal.
I’ll betcha it’ll carry a little badge and read the live Ragheads their Miranda Rights.
Lawyer robots coming soon?
Paul
July 16th, 2009
5:47 pm
Enter your comments here
getalife
July 16th, 2009
5:49 pm
Looks like they invented an alternative energy source.
Didn’t they start the Internet invention?
Paul
July 16th, 2009
5:50 pm
josef nix
That story’s a classic. Was required reading in an undergrad class I had.
DoggoneGA
Not to put too fine a point on it, but many SF fans would call the Potter series more along the lines of Science Fantasy – a separate genre.
SF rules. But the Fantasy’s fun.
Scooter
July 16th, 2009
5:50 pm
josef, have you ever read “Buffalo Soldiers” ?
Trust me
July 16th, 2009
5:51 pm
Jay,
Did all the talk of Soylent Green make you hungry again. Anyway, someone already asked about robot farts but what I want to know is if they poop or trickle down or both. I mean the battlefield may not be riddled with corpses but the robot paddies could be even worse.
Paul
July 16th, 2009
5:52 pm
Report/Whine
Lessee, steam powered, biodigestibles… Al Gore’s fund will invest in the company and Goldman will make money trading carbon offsets.
Yup, if there’s a corporate buck to be made, the Democrats’ll love it -
Paul
July 16th, 2009
5:52 pm
Report/Whine
Tax-free, of course.
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
5:53 pm
NORMAL–when the thread on “when the days are growing very short” was up, I thought about you and the Green Star Relief Stations and Abbot Zerchi’s response to the “merciful” argument: “Is it? Better for whom. The street cleaners? Better to have your living corpses walk to a central disposal station while they can still walk? Less public spectacle? Less horror lying around? Less disorder? A few ,million corpses lying around might start a rebellion against those responsible. That’s what you and the government mean by better, isn’t it?”
And the machines under discussion here…? jus’ wonderin’
Mr. Snarky
July 16th, 2009
5:54 pm
Jay, the robot would keep going until it met Whiner. The emptiness and despair from the encounter would cause the soul-less robot to give up and die. That or the lame jokes would make it explode.
DoggoneGA
July 16th, 2009
5:54 pm
“Not to put too fine a point on it, but many SF fans would call the Potter series more along the lines of Science Fantasy – a separate genre”
Yes, I know…I was just using it to illustrate the point because it’s so popular. Yes, fantasy is fun…but even so, if the logic fails then that takes away from the fun…for me anyway. One of my favorite scifi books is “The Andromeda Strain” – because it’s a good read, and because the logic and the science held up. I’m sure there’s errors in it, but they weren’t apparent to me and I’ve read it many times.
Redneck Convert
July 16th, 2009
5:54 pm
Well, seems to me our GA Dept. of Transportation could use a couple those robots. Every time they want to build a new road some burying spot is in the way. Usually one for Those People. It costs hundreds of thousands of bucks to relocate either the highway or the graves. Turn a robot or two loose and pretty soon there wouldn’t be anything in the way. You could tell the whiners, See, there ain’t anything here. Have a good night everybody.
Brad Steel
July 16th, 2009
5:55 pm
Whiner, good use of racial slurs.
Scooter
July 16th, 2009
5:56 pm
Trust me, the patties will detenate when steped on! That way the enemy can’t sneak up be hind them!
Paul
July 16th, 2009
5:57 pm
DoggoneGA
I just fall back on advice from a Shakespeare lit class – ’suspension of disbelief.’ Makes the stories enjoyable.
Then again, it also makes watching our politicians bearable…
getalife
July 16th, 2009
5:58 pm
A third choice after death.
Bury, cremate or feed the robots.
Paul
July 16th, 2009
5:59 pm
getalife
gonna be some stoned robots on the battlefield.
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 16th, 2009
5:59 pm
After Palin regains the presidency in 2012, we’ll have to reprogram all of the little liberal robots and, being government, they will f it all up-
You have the right to remain silent
Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law
If you request to speak to an attorney I will turn on my 20MM Cannon and make you into Raghead stew, my favorite meal.
What do you say, feel lucky punk? Well do ya?
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
6:01 pm
Doggone–Finding little in science fiction you like…i dislike the genre intently and it has been a bone of contention between me and the Unmentionable for all these years (had a ranh-ranh on it just last p.m.!), but I’m tellin’ ya, this book operates at so many levels…you being a woman of faith, I think you could appreciate it at that level and which is why I would recommend it to you while not others…
Scooter–no, I have not, but if YOU recommend it, I will put it on my list,,, BTW getalife’s here…don’t forget him!
PAUL–I should have known you’ve read it. You’re another one who would understand it. Where did you take the course. I’m fascinated that a professor would have it on his list!
Mr. Snarky
July 16th, 2009
6:04 pm
Whiner, why are you wasting your time here? You should be writing science fiction for the uneducated racist! I’m sure that’s a huge market.
Trust me
July 16th, 2009
6:05 pm
Trust me, the patties will detonate when stepped on! That way the enemy can’t sneak up behind them!
I don’t know. Maybe it would be better to program the robot to hold it until after the enemy sneaked up its behind. Adds a little sport to an otherwise uneventful day. Sort of like the spud up the exhaust pipe..
DoggoneGA
July 16th, 2009
6:17 pm
” just fall back on advice from a Shakespeare lit class – ’suspension of disbelief.’ Makes the stories enjoyable”
Yeah, that works quite often…especially with fantasy books. Not so much for books that are supposed to be based on science though. Actually, in that genre, my favorites are the Jules Verne books…especially The Mysterious Island. I never get tired of reading that one!
@@
July 16th, 2009
6:22 pm
What was it Obama said? “Medvedev represents the NEW Russia???”
Two human rights activists have been “assassinated” since January.
In May Russia’s president, Dmitry Medvedev, announced he was setting up a new body to counter the “falsification of history”. The commission, dominated by members of Russia’s FSB intelligence service rather than professional historians, would ensure that history teaching stressed Russia’s heroic sacrifice during the war, Medvedev said, and combat foreign “revisionists”.
Trust me
July 16th, 2009
6:26 pm
“The Wild Wild West,” with Will Smith. A true southern sci-fi classic.
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
6:27 pm
@@–have a job for Moderator!
Kamchak
July 16th, 2009
6:27 pm
DoggoneGA
Classified as fantasy or sci/fi, but the greatest love story ever told: “Tarzan of the Apes” by Edgar Rice Burroughs. Hollywood never even came close to getting it right.
DoggoneGA
July 16th, 2009
6:31 pm
“Hollywood never even came close to getting it right.”
No kidding! And same with the Verne books. I was especially disappointed in the film for The Mysterious Island.
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
6:32 pm
Kamchak–”Tarzan…” had a lit teacher in high school who taught it…we read the book and saw the movie(s) and learned a lot…
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
6:36 pm
kamchak–message downstairs viz, Maimonides
@@
July 16th, 2009
6:37 pm
josef:
I have no idea what you’re talkin’ about.
TEHRAN, Iran – The head of Iran’s nuclear agency has resigned, the government said Thursday, a move that may have been connected to the country’s postelection turmoil.
There have also been hints of behind-the-scenes differences between Aghazadeh and Ahmadinejad’s energy minister over the planned opening of Iran’s first nuclear plan at Bushehr, whose opening has repeatedly been delayed.
On Wednesday, Energy Minister Parviz Fattah complained that despite plans to start up Bushehr this summer, “so far, head of Iran’s Atomic Energy Organziation has not provided any information” on inaugurating it. The comments could suggest that Aghazadeh was resisting a rushed start to the reactor, which is being built with Russian aid.
We should send him an invitation…an all-expense paid trip to America.
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
6:41 pm
@@
“The commission, dominated by members of Russia’s FSB intelligence service rather than professional historians, would ensure that history teaching stressed Russia’s heroic sacrifice during the war, Medvedev said, and combat foreign “revisionists”.
Paul
July 16th, 2009
6:43 pm
josef
It was an English course during my undergraduate work. Taught by a full prof. He was a scifi nut and I think the only way he got it in the curriculum was because of his position. We did mostly short stories – lots and lots and lots of reading – and I still have two of the books!
I’ve had conversations before about “Mimsy were the borogroves” and how it was made into a movie recently – the Last Mimsy. Also – a favorite: The Shortest Science Fiction Story Ever Written. Title was on one page. Turn the page and there was a form. Top said “Cosmic Report Card.” Underneath is said “Earth: F.”
Kamchak
[[ the greatest love story ever told: “Tarzan of the Apes”]]
Lessee, a guy who didn’t say more than a couple words so the women liked it. A woman dressed in that outfit so the men liked it.
Yup – it’s a formula that works!
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
6:48 pm
KAMCHAK, PAUL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq1snyaPle0&feature=related
Paul
July 16th, 2009
6:52 pm
josef nix
LOL! I couldn’t wait for the “baaaabeeee, buh buh buh buh buh bay beeeee” to start!
@@
Russians. Sell the Iranians the technology. Sell’em the plant specs. Sell’em the tech assistance (I think the Germans are in on it, too). Then there’s the ongoing maintenance. And the gazillion dollar air defense system (why does anyone need a sophisticated air defense system for a power plant?!!?).
Russians. Dirty Capitalists.
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
6:54 pm
PAUL–”…shut up Babee, I’m tryin’ to sing…”
Darren
July 16th, 2009
6:57 pm
Real classy blog you have here Mr. Bookman. ‘Raghead?’
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
6:58 pm
DARREN–are you new? You ain’t heard nuthin’ yet!
Paul
July 16th, 2009
7:01 pm
josef
to get that out of my head I had to piggyback on @@’s post and put on my “Best of the Russian Red Army Choir.”
Guitarzan’s been purged.
Darren
You oughta hear what they call us!
Darren
July 16th, 2009
7:04 pm
josef,
The racism is typical?
Paul
July 16th, 2009
7:09 pm
Darren
I suppose it depends on how one defines racism.
“In al-Qaida’s first response to Obama’s victory, al-Zawahri also called the president-elect _ along with secretaries of state Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice _ “house Negroes.”
Speaking in Arabic, al-Zawahri uses the term “abeed al-beit,” which literally translates as “house slaves.” But al-Qaida supplied English subtitles of his speech that included the translation as “house Negroes.”"
FinnMcCool
July 16th, 2009
7:09 pm
Hey, the Taibbi article on Goldman Sachs is now available online in its full length.
This will make you sick.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/29127316/the_great_american_bubble_machine
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
7:13 pm
DARREN–typical? Oh, from some, yes! From others, it’s racism in a chocolate chip cookie. I’m relatively new here myself and it took a while to figure out who was being serious and who was just having fun twitting somebody else to see if they couldn’t get a rise out of ‘em. We’re just as likely to go off on one thing as another. We’ve got our wine aficionados, philosophers, peace makers, zealots of all stripes with many causes, a lot of really witty repartee when on a roll with literary allusions, folks who know their history, we’ve got it all! The best way to get to know us, though, is to tune in on Friday night for travelling music–that’s when you get to see who we really are at our best…
Manners, well, some of us have them and some of us don’t…
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 16th, 2009
7:15 pm
Darren is one of my stalkers, incognito, please do not feed the animals.
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
7:16 pm
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
Whiner! You be nice, now, you hear. We got company.
Scooter
July 16th, 2009
7:17 pm
OK, just got back from cooking And eating. josef, did I hear someone imply that you are a racist?
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
7:17 pm
Angry Black Man, Debbie–We need y’all’s input here!
Paul
July 16th, 2009
7:19 pm
josef nix 7:13
No wonder Jay loves us and his blog is the envy of the Atlanta Journal Constitution!
Hope he picks some good travelin’ music for Friday for Darren’s benefit.
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
7:19 pm
Scooter–not sure if it was directed at me or not…but, well, have been called one before, ‘cept as you know it was myself I was talkin’ about!
Darren
July 16th, 2009
7:19 pm
Paul,
I don’t read al Qaeda blogs.
josef,
Thanks! I’ll check it out tomorrow.
Thanks.
FinnMcCool
July 16th, 2009
7:20 pm
I always considered J.G Ballard a sci-fi writer even though he probably isn’t classified as one. His work is just real cutting edge (kinda like Peter Greenaway in film/movies) but it usually revolves around machines and steel or concrete.
This is some nutty writing but really quite good. I’ve read High Rise and Crash (which was a movie with Holly Hunter and James Spader ~ very very weird).
High Rise is creepy but nothing like Crash. If you have a good stomach, try The Atrocity Exhibition.
He also wrote Empire of the Sun (movie with John Malkovich and Christian Bale)
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
7:21 pm
DARREN–Jay’s our Jewish Mamele…L-rd knows he tries to keep us in line…
As my granddaddy used to say…okay, y’all, I’ll save it!
Paul
July 16th, 2009
7:22 pm
Scooter,
Naw, josef’s not a racist… a bit of a recidivist, maybe, a mild reprobate probably, but a racist? Never!
What’d ya’ cook?
FinnMcCool
July 16th, 2009
7:22 pm
big O is raising the roof in a speech at the NAAPC. I’m sure Wyld Byll and I Report are watching…and probably taping it too (so they can brag to their grand kids)!
Paul
July 16th, 2009
7:24 pm
7:19
It’s official!!! From a newbie with no axe to grind!!! The Huffington Post is an al Qaeda blog!!! I knew it!!
Report/Whine
I think we’ll keep him.
Kamchak
July 16th, 2009
7:32 pm
josef
Yeah I caught your reply downstairs. The only English translation of “The Guide for the Perplexed” mentioned in Wiki was one by Michael Friedlander. Is that the only one?
Scooter
July 16th, 2009
7:33 pm
Paul @ 7:22,
Red Fish, Hush puppies and Cheese grits. And quit using those fancy words on me will ya?
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
7:34 pm
DARREN–Welcome!
Scooter–who you callin’ a recidivist and a reprobate…?
What I cook…ooh, the Unmentionable whupped up his hearts of palm salad, lemon-butter chicken breasts, and fettucini al fredo.
NORMAL, et al–got a bottle of Smoking Loon pinot noir working…right to my taste. Neighbor lady brought it thanking me for feeding her cats…didn’t tell her I tried to give the Yankee brother-in-law’s barbecue…
FinnMcCool
July 16th, 2009
7:34 pm
what a role model this Obama is.
I’m glad my kid finally has a President he can look up to and say “Dang, maybe I can be anything” instead of “oh, I guess if daddy pulls all the strings for you and fixes everything, you walk like that and you clear a lot of brush in some backward corner of Texas”
Dang, that’s how a man carries himself!
Hey, wingnuts, where are all the white male role models? On Wall Street stealing from the public coffers? it isn’t Larry Bird, he’s retired…hmmm, maybe they are tapping their toes in a bathroom somewhere?
Paul
July 16th, 2009
7:36 pm
Scooter
Bosch isn’t here. I have a backlog on my ‘word of the day’ calendar.
Speaking of Bosch, he’s heading in for stomach surgery from his love of cheesy grits. You be careful now, y’hear?
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
7:40 pm
KAMCHAK–It’s the one I use…I wish I could find the one Granddaddy always referred to, but evidently it’s out of print…
SCOOTER–my bad…sorry, it was Paul who called me that…guess I’m so excited to have somebody new around I just ain’t paying close attention!
PAUL–who YOU callin’ a recidivist and a reprobate?
Paul
July 16th, 2009
7:41 pm
FinnMcCool
[[where are all the white male role models?]]
Lessee, there’s my dad as well as my sons. That’s good enough for me.
But with a cool name of a Gaelic warrior that doubles as a really good bar in Santa Monica, I think I can add you to the list, too!
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
7:43 pm
BOSCH–really. we’ll keep you in our thoughts and prayers. You’ve got a lot on your plate other than cheesy grits, but try and get some rest.
FinnMcCool
July 16th, 2009
7:43 pm
Scooter, you cookin blackened red fish? mmmmm
Paul
July 16th, 2009
7:44 pm
josef nix
well…. if the shoe fits…. and I’m just assumin’ you have some really stylish shoes…. that you keep on buyin’ (recidivist) and who is shameless with the purchases (reprobate)…. well, do you see my point?
FinnMcCool
July 16th, 2009
7:47 pm
There’s a good Salon.com article on fish to avoid:
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2008/04/29/bottomfeeder/index.html
I’ve condensed it down to a list I keep in MS Outlook’s Notes thingy (I knew there was a use for that!)
Here is the shortened version:
Good fish – pelagic fish like whiting, sardines, anchovies, oysters, pollock, trout, sablefish, arctic char, herring, mussels, carp, salmon stamped with “Alaska”. Canned fish like sardines, mackeral, herring.
Avoid – shrimp, predator fish like Chilean Sea Bass, tuna (skipjack is ok), swordfish, shark, non-alaska stamped salmon. Monkfish and Halibut are almost extinct so avoid.
For reasons, you’ll have to read the article. But, I don’t have time to research all the fish so I will follow what someone I trust to say about what fish you shouldn’t eat. (and it sounds like farmed shrimp can really mess you up.)
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
7:47 pm
White male role models? Well, Pesky Savage Unmentionable says he thinks Custer’s a pretty good one, all in all!
Ah, say the-ah…
Redneck Convert
July 16th, 2009
7:48 pm
Well, I ain’t suprized this Bosch is having a Dr. cut on his stomach. These city folk will never learn. You don’t put cheese or shrimp or nothing in your grits, you put a big hunk of butter on them and let it melt. Well, maybe a little pepper and salt. This Josef Nix is next. Some of the stuff he says he eats will rot a belly in no time.
I Report (-: You Whine )-:
July 16th, 2009
7:48 pm
Tape this Finnatic-
When he speaks as president, Mr. Obama’s audiences have reason to expect that some concrete actions or policies will flow from seemingly major statements. Other than more diplomats talking, I don’t think much of anything is going to follow these. The Speech was pretty much it.
Gas.
Bag.
blah, blah, blah.
josef nix
July 16th, 2009
7:48 pm
PAUL–shoes, heh, heh. In my glory days maybe, but now it’s comfort not style!
FinnMcCool
July 16th, 2009
7:50 pm
Paul, true about the family members. I wasn’t really pointing at that with my comment but those are the most important role models.
Good call
Kamchak
July 16th, 2009
7:51 pm
josef
Thanks, just wanted to keep kosher. When in Rome….