Meet the Dems’ 60th vote

Hard to believe the guy who once played an inept gorilla handler in Trading Places is now A Distinguished Gentleman.

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What does it mean, “Play us out.”?

lolz. (eyesroll)

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What have we done? Mwuahahahah. WE ARE MAD I TELL YA! MAD!

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The difference, josef, is that the guy who played opposite a chimp ran the largest state in the nation for two terms, and did that effectively.

The inept gorilla handler has done nothing to earn the position of U.S. Senator, except to whine about Republicans.

Actions have consequences for both sides; the GOP for being so durned stupid for the last 10 years, and the morons who voted in Hope & Change and the gorilla handler to positions of responsibility. Fortunately, we only have 3 1/2 years left to put up with Hope & Change. Minnesota residents will have to put up with this yahoo for 5 1/2 more.

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I never thought he was funny on SNL but hope he works for the people to set an example in the corrupt Senate.

Term limits are desperately needed in the Senate.

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PS…whatever happened to Davis?

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Dave R. 3:31, let’s see, morons voting for Bush and Cheney vs. morons voting for hope and change. Sounds like a zero sum game.

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Yeah, retired, it pretty much is. Good thing I can’t be blamed for either travesty.

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Al Franken-The state of Minn & the Democratic party sure have a GEM. Word is the Minn Democratic Party is seriously considering comic Andy Kaufmann for a run at Gov. Sadly They know he’s been dead for twenty-something years,but they also know they’re voters. And now you know where the term “Looney Toons” originated!

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I have always liked and respected Al.

His show on AAR and his books were all well researched and presented.

He’ll be a great # 60!

WAhoo!

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Paul

You can get it a PDF at TPM

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From an individual that floats around the middle depending on the issues, this is never good, regardless of party (and yes, it was just as bad when the repubs had control). We need a balanced gov’t representing all the people or we will spend eternity correcting mistakes made by the 2 party system that believes they have been voted in with a mandate.

Drive from ditch to ditch every 4/8 years or stay in the middle of the road?

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Al Franken in the Senate? What’s the big deal? It’s not like he can start a war or anything. HAHAHAHA!1
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GETTALIFE: dems never vote together and will not rubber stamp Obama’s agenda like the gop.
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That’s right, too many individual “thinkers”. Do the words Monkey and a football have any meaning to you?

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md

I still like my proposal – if the vote count is within N percent, it’s an automatic election do-over. No reliance on which lawyers have the argument of the day or which judge is ruling. Toss it and do over.

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He can’t be any worse than what we’ve sent.

ttp://www.alfranken.com/pages/meet_al/

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Franken 2016??

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“I still like my proposal – if the vote count is within N percent, it’s an automatic election do-over. No reliance on which lawyers have the argument of the day or which judge is ruling. Toss it and do over.”

With “varying standards throughout the state”, it seems there would be a perpetual “do over”. Whoever the winner, sounds like MN needs to learn the meaning of consistency.

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I’d settle for a Republican if it was a small government, fiscal conservative Republican, mm.

But I think that anyone giving such a far-reaching generalization of the election cycle three years hence, as you do, knows very little about the changing whims of the American electorate, nor knows every little about how the country will percieve the failure of Hope & Change’s policies.

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“That’s for sure and it probably will be Madam Clinton…how ’bout dem apples…”

Never happen.

Obama will have the dem nomination, so unless Hillary runs as an independent………

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Well, it’s official, Minnesota is the newest embarrassment in a nation full of them.

Can’t wait to hear the cries from that state of “Oh cr@p! What did we just do?’ when the first important vote or the first misguided legislation comes forth from Stuart Smiley.

Ya don’t get mulligans when you make stupid choices in politics.

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This will be interesting, too.

Just the other day we listened to a couple go on about how Bush stole the election and the Court gave it to him. Eight years later, that still gets played.

Let’s see if the Republicans are more gracious.

It will set a nice standard. This isn’t the last time something like this will happen.

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Mrs. G:

I have always liked and respected Al.

So, knowing he would not be a psychologist, Franken spent most of his time at Harvard getting from one day to the next, always careful to keep his head above academic water. He spurned the Loeb, the Lampoon and the Pudding to work by himself for Dunster House productions.

“The Loeb, well, that’s theater,” Franken said, frowning a bit. “I was just never into theater. I was interested in real show business. And the Lampoon–it wasn’t just that I didn’t like them, I thought the stuff they were doing was terrible.”

He recalled writing a skit called “Seamen on Broadway” that was rejected from the Hasty Pudding show “by some preppie so they could take some other preppie’s skit.” Franken started to smile again, but his tone was serious, too serious. “It’s not preppies, cause I’m a preppie myself. I just don’t like homosexuals. If you ask me, they’re all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia.” The smile became so broad it pushed his eyes shut. He couldn’t stand it any longer. “Put that in, put that in,” Franken laughed, leaning over the desk. “I’d love to see that in The Crimson.”

Source: The Harvard Crimson

I’m not seeing, in Franken, anything that warrants your admiration and respect. But hey!

to each his own.

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@@

You don’t really think I give a rat’s patootie what you think do you?

Hell, you haven’t shown the much judgement regarding politicos in all the years I have been here, why change now?

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“Franken 2016??”

Now that would truely signal the end for a great republic.

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And to think that Republicans picked on Gore for being a sore loser. The Republicans have set a new standard of low under the heading of Oh So Sore,L-O-S-E-R. Pitiful. Don’t they understand that even their constituency is watching and giving them the Lurch moan.

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MH Smith,

Don’t bother putting anything like that here, these folks have already been told what to believe.

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Seeker:

During the campaign, I predicted that if the dems won, they would overreach. They have!

Obama did a reach around on the left’s issues (the ones near and dear to their hearts) and he’s overreached with the American people on C&T and healthcare.

It’s just a matter of time before YOUR L-O-S-E-R-S will be a but a memory.

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It is all a big joke to you Mrs G.

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Paul

If you think Franken is truly a homophobe who wants homosexuals to die
you are more @@ than Uriah Heep!

Funny, funny

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Well IC,

I doubt they will start a war of choice based on lies or cause another depression.

Lets face it, the gop was a disaster and there is nowhere to go but up.

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It came from Wasilla.

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Sad too see @@ so consumed with cmd (con mental disorder) and lost her sense of humor.

Getalife:

You don’t know me as well as I know you.

Goose, goose…

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It must be fun to be a liberal like Mrs. G. I wonder what it is like to live under the influence of mood-altering drugs 24/7 . . .

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By the way, the only reason “green energy” is not as competitive as “fossil-fueled energy” is because of all the subsidies given by the taxpayers to fossil fuel companies.

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We have a buffoon for Speaker of the House.

We have a buffoon for Majority Leader in the Senate.

We have a burgeoning buffoon for Prezident.

Now we have the official Senate SNL buffoon, Franken.

He’s in good company.

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For all of you (including you Jay) that are happy about this stooge going to the senate I offer this; the most desperate times that occur in this country happen when one party controls the Congress and the Whitehouse. Doesn’t matter which party. It is not good for either side to have complete control and there not be any voice of dissention. Besides, Minnesota also elected Jesse Ventura who was a complete idiot just like this liberal goose stepper is going to be.

For you liberals on here over 60 (most if not all of the regulars) who love this prescious moment in liberal history, you better be careful about that new health care reform though. Old people aren’t going to be viewed with too much favour in the “new world” of health reform as they are going to be considered a liability and a drain to the program. Seeings how most of health care expenses occur in the last few years of life, the solution will be simple to number crunchers in Obama’s cabinet. Maybe a little “kinder, gentler” selective euthanaisa should be employed to lower those costs. It could be easily done by just denying requests for certain treatments or diagnostic procedures. Neat, easy and so very socialist while watching out for the “common good” you progressives love so much. Watch out what you wish for you socialistic drones, you may just get it.

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Repubs don’t get so “bent out of shape” about our new senator from MN potraying a “gorilla” — Reagan read bedtime stories to BONZO and he lead the US and you all loved him — Hey, we might have something going here with the gorillas and chimps . . . . Maybe it is a good luck sign

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Oh, pox on both their houses! It’s time for a third party, has been for a while, and I think even I could get behind the Carpetbagger Princess if she ran as an independent.

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“Whoever the winner, sounds like MN needs to learn the meaning of consistency.”

Like the “consistency” in our NATIONAL elections maybe?

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Paul:

I wanted to ask you two questions. Yesterday you commented on Dick Morris’ increased stridency. In what way and why do you think?

I see him occasionally but not enough to know what you’re observing.

I’m seeing a lot of puzzling behavior among all the pundits, left and right. Kinda scary!

Second question. Did you watch the Friedman video?

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This is the same Norm Coleman who was defeated by Jesse Ventura.Remember Governor Jesse?The good folk of Minnesota now give us Al Franken.Who’s next? Homer Simpson?

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Byll:

I’m good! Thanks for asking.

I sweated yesterday and got a little more bronzed today since I decided to opt out of yardwork and traded it for a float in the pool.

How YOU doin’?

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Normal–now, now..be careful with tap dancer, you know what some might make of it…just call ‘em ballet dancers…or is that belly dancers…jus’ wonderin’

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Josef, ballet dancer, belly dancer, tap dancer…all good with me…but goose steeper? Liberals couldn’t even do a conga dance…can’t work together long enough. This Senate is going to be a barrel of laughs now.

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GOP leaders have a new complaint about President Obama: He’s not reaching out to them nearly as much as he did earlier this year, when he road-tested his pledge of post-partisanship, only to get uniformly rebuffed on his first big legislative initiative.

All together now. Awwwwwwwww. Isn’t that sad.

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NORMAL–got a point there. Remember Will Rogers’ “I don’t belong to an organized political party. I’m a Democrat.” Why don’t I trust liberals, I am one for G-d’s sake, that ought to be reason enough!

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Dave R,

You accuse Mrs G. of drug use, however it is you who believes the chimp ran the country effectively for two terms. Thus, you’ve qualified yourself as both a hypocrite and a simpleton.

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Steve @ 5:28 – And I’m equally sure that you’re as wrong as Coleman was for dragging this out for months and months.

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Ray: “Thus, you’ve qualified yourself as both a hypocrite and a simpleton.”

NORMAL–Fiat homo, fiat lux, fiat voluntas tua? The simpletons are back! Hide the memorabilia!

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What?? Al Franken to the Senate? A Democrat who’s a big joke with a bad attitude? He’ll fit right in. But the competition will be fierce.

Congress is getting to be one big misfit malaprop of liberal direction. From petty Pelosi and rambling Reid to sputtering Franks and Barbara the boxer, we now add the comic antics of Franken to assure the top joker with the phony money that he’s king of the hill. And that’s not an ant hill, folks. It’s a mountain of debt.

Mountain of debt? Gee, I wish that was a joke. But it aint.

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Democratic Party-The party of tolerance,are you kidding. Only when it plays into they’re political plans.

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jokerman:

This ain’t my discussion, but you’re nitpickin’.

California’s population 36,756,666

Texas’ population 24,326.974

Alaska’s population 686,293

California is largest by population.

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Cool…..now that the Communists have their 60th Senate vote, big majority of the House, and Sheik Hussein Obama in the White House, when the economy bombs (after cap and trade, socialized medicine, and Government Motors)—-they won’t have the conservative boogeyman to blame. Oh well, I’m sure they’ll find some excuse. Hey you 52% “landslide” voters……you now own it all!!!

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Jokerman, it’s also the largest economy by state.

You really have the right handle for your blog post. You are a joke.

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You are right… I know that California’s population is far greater…Duh! But, when someone writes….

“I said that Reagan ran the largest STATE in the country for two terms”

Do you agree that California is not the largest state…simple yes or no?

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Is California still a part of the United States?

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Dave R,

There’s no need to hide your admiration for George W. Bush. My God, if the rightwing abondons hollow pride there’ll be nothing left!

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“Like the “consistency” in our NATIONAL elections maybe?”

Now that you mention it, bout time thats cleaned up too.

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“are all repubs as stupid as this one” This comes from a party that at one time or another has had Cynthia Mckinney,Barbara Boxer,Mr Pelosi,and last but not least Bill Clinton’s other half as mental giants!

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jokerman–”I’m done with you!”

Well by all means serve both at room temperature accompanied by a light Chablis…

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jokerman:

It’s not surprising that you would require a “simple” answer.

Largest in land mass? Largest in exports? Largest in economy?

Look down jokerman — you call that large? Compared to…..

careful, careful.

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A Rasmussen Reports poll released on Tuesday shows that 42% of Americans believe that the House-passed bill will hurt the economy. A majority of Republicans — 56% — and independents — 52% — said the bill would hurt the economy, while 23% of Democrats said the same thing. Thirty percent of Democrats said it would help.

By all means, let Franken cast that 60th. The dems will pay dearly in 2010 and beyond.

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PRINCETON, NJ — A Gallup Poll finds a statistically significant increase since last year in the percentage of Americans who describe the Democratic Party’s views as being “too liberal,” from 39% to 46%. This is the largest percentage saying so since November 1994, after the party’s losses in that year’s midterm elections.

And they haven’t even felt cap and tax or the destruction of health care yet.

The libs will be out of power for fifty years, hehehehe.

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Ray, please get a clue. If you had been following this blog for the past few months, you’d know that I didn’t support President Bush or most of his policies, I never voted for him, and you continue to be an idiot.

The “guy with the chimp” josef nix referred to originally was Ronald Reagan in Bedtime for Bonzo (a movie), not George W. Bush. I hope you don’t vote.

And Jokerman, everybody else on the planet Earth knew I was talking about anything BUT square footage when I referenced California. You’re aparently the only slow person in the class. Of course, that would require thought on your part, but maybe that’s expecting a bit much from you.

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Amvet,

Google recent history – 4 or 8 and rarely 12.

Life is one giant cycle full of many little cycles.

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AmVet-Spewin ignorrance seems to fit you well.My only question, do you even believe you?

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Congratulations Al! I can think of no one who personifies the Democratic pary better than Democratic Senator Franken.

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Well from my point of view,with all due respect to all the parties of the U.S.A,and everyone. I fear that the worst is at hand.With the election of this Al Franken the Demorcrats now have more power to do more immoral works to our nation that our troops have died and suffered for.The apology of America acting ignorant in some matters made by President Obama is extremly arrogant and unpatriotic.America has always been a soverign nation and upheld it`s standards I and many others do not apologize for anything America has done.I am a farmer and a Southerner and i am very proud of my country,and I do not want to see us go down a lonesome road called Socialism.Friends with the election of these inexperienced people who promised change,this has been a futile backlash in America`s path.I conclude that I refuse to apologize about anything and I refuse to yield to these so called politicians and I stand proud as a Christian/Southern Patriot.God Bless Yall and maybe one day we will see the light and America can stand proud united/not divided one nation under God.

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AmVer-And the party first, party last, party always GOP is gonna suffer immensely for their short sighted greed and utter incompetence.

On the right side of the same boat on which the Democrats occupy the left. Unfortunately it’s the ship of state.

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And how did I know THAT nonsense was coming as the reason.

Nonsense, AmVet???? When did honesty and integrity become nonsense?

I said you could go to Townhall and tattle. You’re good at tattlin’, AmVet.

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md, please. Asking Ambling Veterinarian to google something when it doesn’t suit his misguided mindset is like asking for a liberal to think.

Ain’t never gonna happen.

Not in this lifetime.

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I’m sorry. Everybody on planet Earth EXCEPT Jokerman and Kamchak. The rest are living, breathing, sentient lifeforms.

See Kamchak.
See Kamchak hump.
Hump, Kamchak, hump.

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@@ “”When did honesty and integrity become nonsense?”

When we tuned in to THIS channel!

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White House gets domestic violence adviser
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/06/26/White-House-gets-domestic-violence-adviser/UPI-25311246050169/

Yes, the wingnuts are out in full force for the next 4 years.

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md, @ 6:57 (and Dusty especially for you!) “…that which is has been and that which will be has been. There is nothing new under the sun…”

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josef nix

June 30th, 2009
6:11 pm
Is California still a part of the United States?
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Not since the ’70s

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The lunitics are in the halls….

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Another clown goes to Washington…

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NORMAL–it’s about time you showed up!

Some stats: LA is the second largest city in Mexico, Iran, South Korea…
Georgia is the largest state east of the Mississippi–but is it too small to be its own country, but too big to be an asylum? just askin’

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Franken is being certified? We knew that all along, a certified idiot…

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“…and to get anywhere at all, both sides are going to have to row…”

Or we can continue to row in circles and never get anywhere. Seems that is what this country has voted for with continued lopsided gov’t.

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Josef,

” “That which is has been and that which will be has been done. There is nothing new under the sun.” ”

Reminds me of fads. Been there done that, so thankful I don’t have to be a sheep anymore.

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Hey @@

Just got back – went out and bought myself an early birthday present. It’s from my wife, actually, but when it comes to such things she usually has me get the item I want.

Thanks much for the Friedman video. I think he has it pegged right. There is so much implication in just a few sentences. Some did write some years back that after a time of thrashing about with democracy (a concept they have no experience with – sound familiar?) and following massive corruption, they would comfortably return to a strong leader. Putin a KGB thug? Hardly. He was the head. At a very young age. When Pres Obama looks in his eyes I hope he sees no soul and gets a cold chill. And acts accordingly.

Morris, to me, is taking quite the alarmist, strident tone. Some pretty extremist, to the edge pronouncements. Why? He may have some honest reservations and concerns. But the way he puts it… well, there’s no money to be made as a centrist Democrat, as he was with Clinton. Pro-Dems don’t want to hear any warnings. The mid to the right, that’s where the audience is. So by tweaking the tone a bit he embraces a big market. Just a thought.

BTW – Coleman, as noted, was gracious in conceding. And really, if you look back, Franken worked real hard to shake the buffoon image. It’s difficult – go to a 20 year high school reunion and the class dorky clown may be a top physicist working at Bern, but he walks in the room and what do people remember? So let’s see how he does. He may be very liberal, but let’s see how he conducts himself and see if he follows a certain example and ‘adjusts’ a few positions.

It’s a whole lot easier for a Franken type to hurl insults and criticism than it is to offer solutions. And get them passed. So we’ll see.

This one really struck: [[getalife 6:12 The spineless dems excuse for not having the votes in the Senate is over.]]

Think that one over, Democrats. Methinks they’ll still come up with some way to say Reps are obstructing them, though.

AmVet 6:25

BOR’s had a standing invitation for Franken. Franken chickens out. Pres Obama’s been on. So’s Hillary Clinton. Rev Al Sharpton a bunch. Remember all the hyperbole against ACORN? The head of ACORN went right on. Made her case. Even Rev Jesse Jackson went on for a double. Did a darn good interview.

But no Franken.

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AmVet

Did I include Rep Barney Frank? He comes on and gets his nails done. He and Bill agree. Progress.

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“Think that one over, Democrats. Methinks they’ll still come up with some way to say Reps are obstructing them, though.”

Makes one wonder if they really wanted 60. Now it passes they own it – lock, stock and barrell. No blame to share.

Thats pretty much what did in the GOP.

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GGG:

We conservatives have, for the most part, quit pointing out your HuffPuff and DU links. It gets tiresome. Is it the substance or the source that interests you most?

Paul:

I’m seeing a lot of left-leaning pundits losing steam.

I watch or read Friedman and I think to myself — “O.K., you’re good at analyzing strategy but I’d love to sit down and listen to you apply your own strategy.”

That would be so kewl.

josef:

Ecclesiastes is my favorite book in The Bible. Liberating the earthbound.

“When the race is ended, and the play is either won or lost, and ye are in the utmost circle and border of time, and shall put your foot within the march of eternity, all the good things of your short nightdream shall seem to you like ashes of a glaze of thorns or straw.” — Samuel Rutherford

“A sea of glass, a pageant of fond delights, a theatre of variety, a labyrinth of error, a gulf of grief, a sty of filthiness, a vale of misery, a state of deceit, a cage full of owls, a den of scorpions, a wilderness of wolves, a cabin of bears, a whirlwind of passions, a feigned comedy, a detestable frenzy.” — Arthur Dent

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Dusty: hope I got it right, pulled from memory.

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After reading several rantings here I’m convinced that there are several of you that need help and need it quickly. I wish I could recommend a good psychiatrist or two but they are busy trying to bring the airhears back to reality after the last election.

How would you like to be the Senator of a state that gave you less than a 500-vote plurality? You’d know that one of every two people you meet on the street didn’t vote for you. Your only friends would be those in an asylum or in prison.
Jenzen in Sandy Springs

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@@–glad you like it, too. You know there’s a theory that Shakespeare was the one who did the King James version…I can believe it…the sheer beauty is, in my humble opinion, the greatest single work of English language liteature…

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I looked at that Stratfor site once. So what if they predicted that we were still in a recession. And, whiner’s Am Spec pastes! Really. Reader’s Digest has more value. TV Guide has more.

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gatorman770
“Take from the working Americas and give to the slovenly.”

Well that would get us from the 5th to the 3rd circle of Dante’s Inferno!

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@@–
“Arianna Huffington is an author, columnist and TV personality who has been a brilliant public gadfly for decades.”

You forgot to add, “and to the left of Karl Marx!”

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gatorman, where the hell have you been? Since 1973, American worker productivity has doubled and yet 80% earn less in real dollars than they did then. And it ain’t all going to the welfare queens if you catch my drift.

Paul, maybe the junior senator from Minn. will now. I’d love to see those two go toe to toe. Talk about bad blood!

In spite of his comedic persona, Franken is very smart. Read his books, you’ll agree. The far right cons hate him because he uses facts, tons of them to back up his points. They don’t like that so much.

As we often see here.

GGG, Good old Andy the Honest NOW uses italics. Finally. But nearly forever he did not and guess what, nary a peep from his peanut gallery. My transgressions are unforgivable, but his? No problem! Makes you wonder doesn’t it?

And the truth be told plenty here do the Joe Biden, even @@, who I’ve caught before.

I just like watching you do the blogging Watusi @@! Or is it the Freddy? Or the whirling dervish?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqhKO4f784c

OK, OK, in the new spirit of Al Franken, I’ll try my damnedest to live up to your dippy double-standards and selective memory.

I mean since you REALLY aren’t retiring anytime soon, right?

And since we’re compromising:

Step one – Admit you are powerless over Bookman’s blog — that your life has become unmanageable…

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“Still holds the record for the “biggest landslide” in American history,”

I’ve remembered a bit more. I still don’t remember which election it was, but NPR interviewed the loser and I think it was a Mayoral race. At one point in the interview he said something like “My wife said maybe if you’d just knocked on a couple more doors you could have won” and than he said “Ya think?”

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Really, laying the jokes aside, I had much rather have someone in office who did win in a squaker…it keeps them on their toes…

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It’s de bauchery dat done did us in. At least, dat’s what dey think in de state of Oklahoma. Dummies.

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jewcowboy–believe me, I understand. When the Unmentionable says it’s time now to go and plant trees on a kibbutz or to go and raise blue headed goats on Irazu in Costa Rica, and is serious, I have to stop and think what that means to someone with pre-Columbian roots in this land. As you know, I have a fierce loyalty as a member of the Tribe to this part of the world where we were able to put down roots, a home at last in the Diaspora, and one of the reasons I tuned in here on this blog was to take the pulse of my native land. I do not like what I am hearing either.

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Dang it, I have much work to do during the, so by the time I get to post something everyone else has moved on – so from below:

Ok let’s do some ciphering.

NASCAR says 10 trees off sets one NASCAR race. Let’s say 43 cars for 500 miles each then.

At 5 mpg that’s 4300 gallons of fuel burned.

My pickup gets 15 mpg and I drive 20K miles a year. That’s 1333 gallons.

10 trees / 4300 gallons : x trees / 1333 gallons
solve for x and I get 3.1 trees.

Since I own and grow hundreds of more trees than that, I’m covered, you greenie idiots. Leave my truck alone.

Or calculated another way, according to NASCAR’s formula 1 tree offsets 430 gallons of fuel burned.

Now let’s try to take this nationwide. How many gallons of gas burned in the US per year and how many trees are there? I’ll do some research and get back to you. What if this shows that the consumption of gas/diesel in the US is offset by the number of trees? Won’t be good news for the environmentalist whackos will it?

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I found a source on the net where someone claims to have noodled this out already. They estimated trees vs. cars was carbon neutral but that other power production needed to be balanced. Looked to me like some of their assumptions were skewed and they were obviously an environmental whacko.

A quick source I found gave the number of 600 pine trees per acre. We have millions of pine trees in south Georgia. One source said 24.4 million acres of forest in Georgia.

9.6 million people in Georgia. That’s about 2.5 acres of forest per resident or about 1500 trees per resident. So by NASCAR’s formula we have almost 500 times as many trees in Georgia as we need to offset our auto emissions.

Whacko’s – put that in your tail-pipe and smoke it.

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Maybe Franken can be the final vote on cap and trade legislation that will most certainly put a tax on those making less than 250K…. the biggest tax hike in American history. And Bozo said that he would not raise taxes “by one dime” to that section of America. Passed in the middle of the night and buried in another bill to make it seem irrelevant. Bozo is supposed to be the one president who would make things clear to the American voter, not pass any legislation until the electorate has had a chance to review it for content…. quote the campaign promises of the most misguided, ignorant and lying president we have ever had in this country. News flash libs…. someone else lied to the American public and it ain’t George W. Bush.

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Olberman on the continuing Michael Jackson story: “This carnival is gonna be in town for a while.”

This is gonna be like Elvis in ‘77-’78.

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Jewcowboy,

Grass is greener syndrom.

Visit the blogs @ The Scotsman, BBC, the Guardian, etc. and you may change your mind. We are civil by their standards. Many of their blogs are swarming with trolls to the extent that you may get to read every 5th/6th entry. I’ve been posting there for years and actually came here for a change of pace. I don’t agree with half the folks here, but its nothing like over there.

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Anyone who has listened to Franken on Air America knows that, whether or not you agree with his views, he is a very thoughtful person with a deep knowledge of the issues.

If the right wants to believe their own talking points that Franken is some lightweight “comedian” from “Hollywood,” they might be in for a rude shock. It’s also ironic that they apply these labels to Franken, who graduated cum laude from Harvard with a political science degree, and who runs intellectual circles around the likes of Sarah Palin,

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md,

Quite frankly, the blogs are an international affair, and have little to do with my choice. Yes, the claptrap spewed on this blog was the straw that broke the proverbial camels back, but in the last 12 months I’ve been to England 22 times. Though they may differ in opinions, there is civility sadly lacking in America. That is what draws me away from my home.

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Jewcowboy…..I have only NOW stopped laughing!!! Merry old London, the capital of civility!!! Yeah, the newspapers, blogs, politicians there are sooooooooo……genteel—-oh stop it, you’re killing me.

Enjoy going back to your home country. One less socialist in this country to deal with.

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GayGreek, beware…the jihad against your kind has begun!!!

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BTW jewcowboy, I thought you checked “out” already…second thoughts about the 60% income tax rate in your communist,er I mean, civilized society?

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Jboy- Delta is ready when you are, freak!

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Well Get A Life – the Democrats have declared a war of choice on productive Americans in the end will cost more misery, unemployment and tough days ahead.

This whole house of cards will fail in the end, and as long as the Democrats don’t move to Stasi tactics and it wouldn’t surprise if they do, the entire thing is going to fall apart.

372 metro areas just hide an increase in unemployment – thanks Democrats. To borrow from the old GA democrat bumper sticker = “Enjoying the Economy – Thank A Democrat”

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…the jihad against your kind has begun!!!

Please, Brother Sam, enlighten your brethren regarding those that you have labeled as “your kind” for we must learn before we can join in the jihad against those of the “your kind” persuasion.

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Well I’ll be darned, there goes our last chance to seat that 5th godly conservative Supreme. We’ll just have to fall back on finding unhinged conservative fanatics to carry out gods work…

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I prefer to not leave things open for mis-interpretation, Sam.

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jewcowboy

The interwebs is an international thing. I’m going to regard your departure not as “goodbye” but as “sometime again”!

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Government in Britian is into people’s lives way more than it is here.I don’t believe the avarage American would like their brand of snoopiness.

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So, Sam must be one of those American Taliban given his familiarity with Ayatollahs and such.

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My Kind…..Absolutely!!!!! Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer. Make no doubt about it, liberals are America’s enemy

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Good grief, Kamchak!! You and AmVet sound like a couple of girls.

Had to go back and find this incriminating post you mentioned.

Toads? You (croak) better than the rest of us.

AmVet:

Step one – Admit you are powerless over Bookman’s blog — that your life has become unmanageable…

I’m workin’ on it, buddy.

Day started at 5:30 with housework.

6 miles at the track.

An hour of water aerobics.

Picked up the dead limbs that I removed from the trees yesterday, hauled them to the burn pit where my neighbor plans to torch ‘em tomorrow.

Bathed “My Buddy” (dog)

Assembled a cheesecake and popped it in the oven.

Answered some e-mails from parents at school.

Hauled some stage props to church for VBS.

Picked the garden.

Went to the market.

Picked up three bushels of corn, shucked, washed and put in the fridge until tomorrow when I will cut, scrape, microwave and freeze.

Took the cheesecake to a church member.

Started dinner.

Vacuumed the pool and then laid out on a float for 2 hours.

Blogged in between all ^^^ that.

You?

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Dusty

June 30th, 2009
5:48 pm

Not to mention the evil Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins and the deserter Arlen Specter.

Reagan and Bush are responsible for over 90% of the current debt, and Bush will be responsible for at least half of what is accumulated over the next 4-8 years.

http://reaganbushdebt.org/

http://www.examiner.com/x-2134-DC-Ethical-Issues-Examiner~y2009m1d30-Abu-Greed-How-ReaganBush-created-a-debtor-prison-without-walls

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North Korea blinks?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gPE2T6srY36AqSumfp9KStLWUnAQD9956V482

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@@….very funny! Some people actually take this blog seriously!!

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You American taliban Sam?

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The American Taliban is the GOP base’s reaction to being losers.

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Jewcowboy, Don’t go away sad or angry…..just go away!

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You had to search to remember what you posted? I’ll try to contain my shock and awe.

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Somewhere Up There, Senator Wellstone is beaming.

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Kamchak–I am not opposed to the introspection per se, I am opposed to the forced nature. It is coming as the result of an attack on the culture itself and not just its more negative aspects, and as such it is being met in return by a fear, within the tribe, of questioning that identity and how to take it into the future. The “action” of the anti Southerners is being met by a “reaction” within the culture, the tribe as it were. There is a lot to be said here, but it is now late at night and I need to catch a few zzs. Foregive me if I am not coherent here.

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Kamchak,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxrWz9XVvls

or more light hearted;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfM9gQkfwyg

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Good night all…

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IC – Gee, I coulda swore that the Governator had a “-R” after his name. So much for your little 10:07 rant!

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IC,

Lets give it more than 6 months to clean up the gop disaster shall we.

It took 8 years to destroy our country, so it will take more than 6 months to fix it.

The Clinton team is back so there is a good chance of a repeat performance.

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I wonder how many of the Georgia Republicans that voted for that almost vote blocker, Saxby, are now wishing for a make-over. The GOP deserves Saxby and he’ll bring Georgia nothing but grief for his entire term, thanks to the way he mis-treated his opponents in the races.

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Whoa Nellie!

Kamchak @ 10:09:

Don’t try to pull that classic definition of conservatism to define who we are. It’s outdated and way to broad. Holding on to the “old ways”….”old customs”????

Whose and what?

It’s too easy to be vague….try specifics!

Now I’m O-U-T!!!!!

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IC – Even if the Governator is a “RINO:, that still ain’t a “-D” after his name, so your little rant at 10:07 still earns Total Fail.

@@ @ 10:40 – Kamchak nailed it. Y’all RightWingNuts are still frothin’-n-foamin’ that one of Those People is POTUS. Maybe, someday, the Republican’t platform will resemble something later than a 50’s fantasy combo of “Donna Reed” and “Father KNows Best” with an all-Caucasian world…

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jewcowboy, I too found the Englishmen very real and unpretentious. But then I lived in the farm country of East Anglia and having been raised in the farm country of America, I easily related. A loverly people. And our awkward allies always. Notwithstanding their witty, vibrant, vulgar sense of sensibilities and rude humor. Even in politics. I have a connection to that island that transcends any cute stereotype or canned Yank presumption. They mistake in the English their sense of privacy (pronounced with a short i sound, of course) with aloofness or uncaringness. ( is that a word?) And as md notes, passerbys don’t say howdy much over there. But to compare Atlantans to Londoners, in any regard, is really silly, don’t you think?

And josef, my connections to the south are even greater. And love her near as much as my own jayhawker heritage. Even though I abuse her. But then we only f&<k the ones we love, true?

And speaking of bumper stickers I saw the best one ever (well, maybe) on Peachtree today, “I was Born OK the First Time.”

@@, I made more money in a few hours than you will in a week or a month. (Granted a helluva presumption). I work the new fashioned way. Smart. While you verbally jousted after welching on your claim to a swan song. So you tell me, who wins?

DB, at 9:55, a nice sentiment. More good karma from a state of many good liberals. (Withal the notorious Ms. Bachmann.)

kamchack, I find this brilliant: Conservatism, by definition is an attempt to hold on to the old ways and customs. Change, however is the universal constant.

It explains the dichotomy in us all.

And maybe the oneness in us all. E pluribus unum…

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He fits right in with all the other clowns. Maybe he and Barney can do a show.

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We’ll take him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnwJ5KIcKX4&feature=related

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/schiff/schiff102907.html

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I Report (-: You Whine )-:

July 1st, 2009
5:15 am

Just gonna raise the old ones! You wealthy folks are going to have to start paying your “fair share.”

What’s ATL thinking?

A U S T E R I T Y !

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What? I don’t check in for a minute and some civility breaks out???

You people feelin alright?

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TNGelding:

America’s achievers already pay more than their “fair share”. The reality is it is time for America’s beneficiary class (aka the freeloaders expecting others to support their wants that they themselves are unwilling to provide for themselves and their families) to live up to their currently unmet obligations of life. It is truly time that this group quit acting like cabooses on our economy (expecting others to pull them along) and take the initiative to act more like the engines that drive and build it.

America’s problems are not that its “rich” do not pay enough; our problems are that too many of its “not-rich” expect others to do for them what they should do for themselves.

Speaking frankly, it really matters little whether you steal from your neighbor at the point of a gun or elect legislative proxies to do it with the point of a pen. Taking that which is earned from one individual against their will under threat of force or incarceration without an exchange of value is called theft. Unfortunately, another thief who will use confiscated wealth to further acquire power through transfer payments will be added to the US Senate soon.

-Swami Dave

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To all of you who make remarks about Franken being a “stooge” , etc. Have you ever once in your narrow-minded lives listened to the man on his own radio show? When Air America could be heard here in Atlanta, I listened to him every day. What a relief from the bloviators, Limbaugh and Hannity! My God, he actually had real guests on his show. Real people that sometimes disagreed with him, but his questions were thoughtful and his discussons were respectful of their ideas. He will be a far better Senator than our own Saxby, who can do nothing now that his puppet-master Dubya is no longer around to make him dance.

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kamchak–just in case you do check in here, I am not talking about just that 4 year blip 140 years ago. In the introspection you suggest, and which I feel forced into, there are two and one-half centuries of Southern history before that pivotal moment and much of who we are is bound in what we were at that time. Though it will probably never see the light of day given the nature of the publishing industry, that is what one of the manuscripts I am working on deals with, “Dereconstructing History: a revisionist view of the American South starting with Columbus.”

As for 140 years being a long time, I suppose within some frames of reference, particularly the Euro-American, it is, but when you view the human condition from some 6000 years of recorded history, it is merely a blink of the eye.

A Yankee friend of mine once said, “there are two types of Southerners. One doesn’t know the war is over, and the other doesn’t know it has been fought, either way it’s not finished.”

As I said last night, I know I was not being coherent and was speaking more from the heart than the mind. The point I wanted to make on the attack on the tribe and the tribal reaction thereto can be related and compared to how a member may feel when someone says “Jew you down” or “Gypsy thieves,” or “drunken Indian.”

When I asked my grandfather why he was so the way he was in making sure I knew what being a Jew meant and why hold on to “all that,” his comment was, “it matters very little what you call yourself when others are in the definition business for you.”

Finally, you ask forced? By whom? Read over the posts here and the general use of the term Southern to blanketly apply to anything one may disagree with in a negative fashion. Every time such appears, and especially from the outlander, it requires some recognition that at some level or another it applies to self.

Tribal societies are by their very nature exclusionary which sets them up for just such. But that is another topic for another time and place.

Just some thoughts on the way out the door…

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TnGelding, so he is educated at Harvard. It shows two things; he had money to go and he can learn. It does not show that he has common sence or integrity. He is a ludicrous figure.

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Only difference being, this time, instead of a wrestler, they got a clown.

Actually, Al Franken was a wrestler.

From 1966 to 1969, Franken was a member of the varsity wrestling team at his high school in Hopkins, Minn. Six years after graduation, when he showed up in New York to begin work as a writer on the first season of ”Saturday Night Live,” he was still almost as much an athlete as a comedian. ”He seemed like a total jock,” says the comedian Laraine Newman, who was a member of the original cast. ”He always had a football in his hands when they were writing. And he had this very defined musculature. His butt was like a cut basketball. Which, you know, you don’t normally see in comedy writers.”

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I don’t see any mention of Franken being a tax cheat in any of these articles, is it because since he is a dem it is not news. I wonder if the Conyers family paid taxes on her bribes ?

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I don’t think these whining losers from the ultra conservative right wing sect even know what the truth is. Their words certainly don’t prove that they actually know anything about this country’s economy or taxes or government, etc. Your right wing losers are really pathetic.

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Ken wrote: He is a ludicrous figure.

Ken, I bet you voted Palin to be your Vice President? Second in line to being “Leader of the Free World?”

Thought so…

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I Report You Whine

July 1st, 2009
6:44 am

How much would this year’s deficit be without the Obama “explosion?”

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Heard on the news this AM that Coleman is eyeing another run for MN governor. Wouldn’t it be FUN if Ventura would run against him, again…and win, again?

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I can’t claim to have read every comment in this thread, but I must say I’ve yet to hear anyone from the conservative side offer a single specific reason to imagine that Al Franken will not represent his MN constituency capably.

Mostly what I hear is a lot of regurgitated talking points about his past professional endeavors, although there’s been scant attention paid to what he’s done in the past ten years or so.

I won’t be the first to point this out, but his AAR show was among the best of its kind, at least in its first year or so (it lost something when he moved back to MN and sidekick Kathrine Lanpter didn’t come along). Along with the very funny comedy bits (and yeah, some serious groaners) were genuinely challenging discussions.

Oh, and Paul (and to a lesser extent J-Nix), from way back @ 4.52pm–are you seriously holding Franken to account for his views on the LGBT community as they were expressed over 33 years ago? Seriously?

For the record, my own attitudes at the time… well, I was going to call them “Neanderthal” but that’s not being fair to actual Neanderthals.

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Ventura was a failure.

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“Ventura was a failure”

At what?

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ooops, only the first paragraph of my 8:18 was a quote of TNGelding.

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DB, Gwinnettian

July 1st, 2009
7:46 am

A man of many “talents.”

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Did someone say something about taxes.

Swiss banks are shutting the accounts of Americans as the Internal Revenue Service accelerates the hunt for tax dodgers, Bloomberg News reported.

While the banks declined to say how many people are affected, more than 5 million Americans live abroad, including about 30,000 in Switzerland, according to estimates from American Citizens Abroad in Geneva, Bloomberg News said. Swiss banks must register with the Securities and Exchange Commission to provide services for those customers.

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“But in answer to your question, I think it reasonable to hold any politician to decades-old views, IF those are the same views currently held. If not, then, no”

But in that case, you are holding them to account for CURRENT views. It doesn’t matter that they are ALSO decades old view. That’s not the issue. The issue is holding them to account for views they NO LONGER HOLD.

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This is bad, and not necessarily for the reasons you might think I would believe. Now, each dem’s vote will be seen as the one that puts them over. Each Sen will place a value on their vote on a given bill that will allow them to leverage for favors, particularly little pork projects that they will slide into the bills. “Sure, I am on board, but only if you give me …..”

And we (in lib states) will re-elected them anyway. That is too bad. A divided congress has always been better, historically, than a dominant one, regardless of which side holds the cards.

The job now is to follow the money. See where excessive pet spending is being added, and rail against it.

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PAUL…You won’t find Saints in church either…By the way, Good morning to you!

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Dave R, we hear you. You hate Obama and can’t stand the fact that Jed and Elli Mae lost. Tell us something we don’t know.

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Report/Whine

You gotta admit, it was an interesting choice of picture. Hidden message?

I believe you referenced that Gallup poll result the other day. Jay likes polls. I thought it bore repeating.

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Normal

I’m an optimist. I don’t expect perfection. Just people who try. Whether in church or in politics.

Good morning to you, too.

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Paul- I also remarked that most of the people that were polled probably didn’t yet realize that the cap and tax bill had provisions in it so that you could not sell your house until the government inspected it and checked for compliance with Kalifornia energy standards.

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How about something NICE this morning…..

PHOTOS: United We Serve – Cabinet Edition

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×8504454

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Reality @ 8:40 – Close. It was Mr. Magoo and Elly Mae…

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Normal LOL!

Report/Whine

I heard that about having to have a home brought up to certain standards before reselling. I’d like to make sure that really is something that made it into the final House bill. Can you imagine what that will do to the housing market? If it’s true, these cap n traders are instigating another crash. (Okay, I’ll be snarky, Gore’s funds DID invest gazillions in companies that make the products that would be retrofitted onto these homes. More money in that crusade than in the religious crusade!).

I’d also heard that (digress again: sooooo many who rail against the ‘free’ market as being anything but ‘free’ in a classical sense ((and I’m one of them)) seem to have all kinds of faith in the ability of ‘the free market’ to serve as the medium for success for buying and selling carbon credits. Amazing!) all those permits for cap n trade that would be auctioned off to provide funds and an incentive to cut emissions? I also heard nearly ALL of those have been given away, for FREE, to special interest groups whose support was needed for passage of the House bill.

Y’know, a while back I said Dems just MIGHT want to be real careful with making ‘hypocrisy’ a central element of their attacks on Reps. It might come back to bite them in other areas. Looking at what’s developing in cap n trade tradeoffs (trading principles for passage?) they may get bit.

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June 10th: “A $50 million undergraduate housing construction project at the University of Houston has been awarded to Hardin Construction Company”

The University of Houston may want to reconsider after Hardin had a bridge collapse at the Botanical Gardens and now a parking deck.

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As of now you libs can no longer blame Republicans for anything.

So, in other words, nothing has changed. So, you can leave off the “as of now” hype.

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Jewcowboy makes a good point about the loss of civility in political debate these days. It is, in my opinion, created primarily by change in American demographics and culture over the last 25 years or so. Most of the so called conservatives on this blog are biggots and chest thumping neo-cons who would bomb any country that defies the U.S. and leave the elderly, the poor and the infirmed to fend for themselves under the guise of “self reliance”. They are pro life and pro war. They are religious but have no compassion. They are for family values and are led by Newt three wives Gingrich and Rush three wives Limbaugh. Their solution to every problem is to cut taxes. They offer nothing and it is why they keep losing.

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“As of Now”?

How about “As of the Last 6 Months and for the Next 4 years?”

Hell, how about “as of since the Mighty Thumpin’ of Nov. 2006, at which time Barney Frank became Master of the Known Universe, except for those times when it was Nancy Pelosi what done it?”

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and Clinton had sexual affairs with a 21-year old intern in the White House and then tried to get her to lie under oath – neither side can claim moral righteousness.

The Democrats have it all – sink or swim America it is up to the Dems. You guys can call conservatives names all you want, but now America is your party’s responsibility. I wish for integrity and sensibility among our leaders. But you don’t have George Bush, Dick Cheney and the evil neo-cons to blame anymore. I hope your team will start taking some responsibility – for good and bad. We’ll see.

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I’ll say it again and again:

A tax break is welfare for people who make money.

Republicans are all for smaller government – as long as you are cutting programs THEY don’t use or rely on.

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DB,

Have you been practicing that 9:15 response through a series of name changes or did my “as of now” unleash a whole pack of ankle biters?

I would agree with you that Dems should have started taking responsibility in November of 2006, but all we’ve been hearing is how the mean old Republicans have been blocking them. You no longer have that excuse.

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Wow. Home inspection requirements for energy compliance. What a novel idea. Oops, my new home had such an inspection way back in 2004. I know. I know. Now, you’ll be required to have an inspection before you sell your house. As if THAT never happens. But wait, the last house I sold way back in 2004 had an inspection and I even had to pay for some upgrades. DUH. I think some people just like to complain about anything that someone else does, unless they’re Republican.

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Meet the Dems etc. etc. and more etc.etc.

First we get a community organizer for President. Then we get a comedian for Senator. Both are Harvard graduates.

Frankly, my dears, I am beginning to wonder about Harvard. That institution is supposed to be the very best. WHAT HAPPENED?

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Paul,

You could at least attempt to portray yourself as being quasi-intelligent before you go off on another one of your vain attempts at provoking another anonymous blogger. Then again, that just would not be “you”.

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Have you been practicing that 9:15 response through a series of name changes

Huh? No. Seriously, no!

I’ve said it elsewhere, but–once in a blue moon, I mean literally once every other week or so, when the spirit strikes I’ll try for a bit of comedy relief to do a one-liner under an assumed name. I’ve never done this to attack anyone. Moreover, I’m so laughably awful at it, so inexperienced in this type of tomfoolery, that a most of the time I screw up and forget to change my “Name” field back and get busted anyway.

I would agree with you that Dems should have started taking responsibility in November of 2006, but all we’ve been hearing is how the mean old Republicans have been blocking them. You no longer have that excuse.

I really doubt that you’ve been hearing nothing but any one excuse, but setting that aside, any semi-serious onlooker recognizes that Democrats aren’t terribly monolithic and oh yeah, they don’t have “60 votes,” they have 58, kinda/sorta (two guys are in terrible physical shape and aren’t even around much) plus one Godly progressive (Bernie) and one foreign policy neocon who’s otherwise pretty good on domestic stuff (Joementum.)

You want to throw up your hands the next 18 months and cry that there’s nothing Republicans can do to impede that Soshamalistic Agender, fine, but pardon me if I don’t take it very seriously.

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And Tn, our troops overseas are supplemented by the host country. If we bring them all home will we actually be saving any money or will we be paying more for the same number of troops?

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Paid in Full 9:33

“vain attempt at provoking another anonymous blogger”

Vain attempt?

Got a response, didn’t it?

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Dusty, a guy can make a really good living telling jokes….um, that sounds like the smartest guy in the whole room.

Are you making a killing by being humorous? Not that smart? I guess the comedian has you beat. See how you feel when you pay Chris Rock or Seinfeld $90 to watch his stand-up routine. Mwuahahahahah

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Paid in Full

But I will guess your affiliation is farfarleft Dem. Not just from your swipe at Republicans, but from your complete avoidance of addressing a point (your reference your home inspection was pretty much like the proposed energy inspection/correction mandate before sale) and instead (and this is the key part) avoiding by getting into a personal exchange.

Most telling!

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“Just keep getting annihilated every other November and maybe you “faithful” will finally learn your collective lessons…”

I’ll reiterate – 4,8 and rarely 12. Unless you are referring to both parties getting annilated.

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I would guess paid in full is rather young as well for he/she has not learned that generlizations are a no-no. How easy life would be if we could cram everybody into one or two square holes.

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md, reiterate away.

I love the GOP’s “chances” of bailing out that hemorrhaging Republican Titanic with The Manteats in Black and Newt the Nut directing like madmen. Joined by a supporting cast of Sister Sarah, Boner, Suxbee, Ensign, Sanford, that irrepressible and lovable Dick Cheney, McConnell and Reagan (Oh wait! He’s dead isn’t he?)

I don’t see the American electorate giving those clowns another chance.

For a LONG time…

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at least until 2010

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AmVet, 9:48

You are but another brainwashed lib who claims he isn’t.

NO? But you still make statements claiming Bush and Cheney are criminals.

I know. Just your opinion. But you don’t have even one single indictment to back up your accusations. That makes you a far left prejudiced Democrat.

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I’m predicting another BIG 2008-like rally for the neo-cons in 2010.

They will lose another 14 seats in Congress.

Baby steps to be sure, but better than the previous 36 and 22 seat losses…

Oh gawd, my long-time leg-humper is calling.

Take it up with the American Bar Association, humper. You know that organization that is loaded with conservative Republican lawyers who wrote Bushie three times about his illegalities in five, count ‘em FIVE, different areas?

The most serially impeachable president in US history.

But keep on apologizing. That’s gonna work REAL well for you in 2010…

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AmVet,

getalife has already worn out the “dog” angle. Try something new.

So, the American Bar Association WROTE letters to Bush complaining. Seems it amounted to nothing. How many did they write to Clinton before he was disbarred?

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Dusty

July 1st, 2009
9:30 am

I think it started going downhill when it accepted the U. of Texas rejectee into its business school.

Come on. Franken will do us all proud. Give him a chance to rise above his meager beginnings and shine. Why isn’t he an example of an American success story?

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IC Atlanta

July 1st, 2009
9:19 am

We got it. It’s in good hands. Join us as we lower the drawbridge to the 21st century that got stuck under ‘W’.

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TNGelding

Most likely not nearly what was put into it. Most improvements don’t have nearly a one for one payback in terms of increased value.

Especially windows. And insulation. For many agents, those are yawners.

But it sure cuts into the equity of the people trying to sell. They’re left with expenses. But the corporations and Al Gore’s energy fund make buku bucks!

(I just can’t leave that alone…)

Oh, probiotics. Have you tried those? I figure ‘yes’ but it can’t hurt to ask -

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Dear Paul,

Robert Gates did try to do away with budgeting more money for F22s and the Democratic Congress voted for it anyway, didn’t they?

As we have already noticed, Democrats know not the meaning of using money wisely. What comes after trillions? Quadrillions? Then Exterrestions?

COPYLEFT & TNGELLING,

You can try to demean Bush in your usual fashion but he is a graduate of Harvard and Yale, an elected governor for two terms in a very large state and an elected president of the USA for two terms. The people’s choice!!

No use for you two to act like he wandered in off the street and got stashed in the White House. Won’t work. Isn’t true. No indictments. No impeachment. Just two freed countries and no attacks on America after 9/11. And you wanted Gore and Kerry! That is one scary thought!

Oh well, Bookman has gone to hacking away at Sanford AGAIN. I don’t like the guy myself but don’t want to make a habit of talking about him. Bookman keeps up the yakety yak.

Ho hum. See you later.

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Good argument Dusty… if I had mentioned Bush at all, that is. My post was about the “accomplishments” of a backwater governor compared to the accomplishments of becoming U.S. Senator and President of the United States.

But as usual, you change the subject and run away. Be sure to declare victory on your way out….

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Dusty

July 1st, 2009
11:10 am

Nothing you can say will alter the fact that there was an attack on 09/11.

Harvard is a fine institution. I probably couldn’t have gotten in even with a legacy appointment. I was only joking.

‘W” made the family so proud that daddy Bush broke down in tears because he had spoiled it for his baby brother. But I’m thinking Jeb will make a try anyway.

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From Finn McCool @ 8:18:

“How true. Tax breaks are basically just handouts to people who make money. It’s government dole. So, it’s no coincidence that Swami Dave wimpers about tax heights at least twice in his post.

Folks making money don’t want to lose their handouts, either!

If the amount of money the public coffers lost to tax-break handouts for people who make money was matched with money for the poor and disabled someone would find a way to tax the handouts to the poor in order to up the handouts to the wealthy.”

Respectfully, Finn, your point belies the dishonest and theft-based foundation of the collectivist argument. It is only be the assumption that an individual’s earnings somehow belong to government that redistributionists such as yourself could make the silly comparison that tax breaks are somehow “handouts to the wealthy”.

They are not. The money belongs to them already and they have no need for a bureaucrat or politician to “give” them what tis already theirs.

On the flip side, the non-achievers among us DO need bureaucrats and politicans to steal from producers to fund their transfer payments and services that they will not provide for themselves. By electing these collectivists, they effectively empower the bureaucrats and politicans to do with a pen what they would get arrested for doing with a gun; namely taking the property or earnings of others against their will with no fair exchange of value.

It is theft to take what you did not earn. It is not a “gift” to allow individuals to keep what they own or have earned. The collectivist fantasy is a lie perpetuated by liars who spread the lie as a means to either (a) get what they have not and will not earn or (b) acquire power by carrying out the theft.

Sorry, Finn, next player please.

-Swami Dave

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Swami, you take away government, the police force, the legal system, the penal system, the protective agencies like the FDA and the EPA and then lets see just how long you are going to be in business making that money that only belongs to YOU. Without the system in place you would be hunting for your food and protecting your lean-to shelter with throwable rocks.

You are one of the greedy people who can’t understand that the system within which you operate is totally there for your benefit and you don’t like the idea that you have to pay to work within that system.

Swami writes: By electing these collectivists, they effectively empower the bureaucrats and politicans to do with a pen what they would get arrested for doing with a gun; namely taking the property or earnings of others against their will with no fair exchange of value. The key words here are “No fair exchange of value.”

You, Swami, are one of the simple-minded, one-tracked minded, greed obsessed people of this country.

Go ahead and don’t pay your taxes but don’t complain when the pot hole in the road breaks the axle on the truck you use to deliver your plastic crap to the retail store where you sell it.
–Don’t complain when the cops arrive a little late at your house because someone is trying to take your 52″ Sony TV.
–Don’t complain when people are stealing your software code because there is no legal system to enforce copyright laws.
–Don’t complain when the meat you eat makes you sick as a dog and gives you hepatitis or ecoli because the FDA had to cut positions.

Anyone who is making a living in this system should not be badmouthing the concept of paying taxes. You may not like what some of the tax dollars are going toward but that is just another side of your endless greed: You want to stop the services YOU “mr. precious swami” aren’t using but curse anyone who tries to stop a service you use or rely on.

Why do I waste my time? Greed and the “me,me,me” of some people is suffocating this country. The faster we hang some misdemeanor or felony on your type the faster we can get your type off the streets (the street with all the pot holes cause you didn’t pay your taxes.)….errr, I should have gone to law school.

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