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	<title>Comments on: The GOP&#8217;s Basiji target &#8216;Cap and Tr-8-tors&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Stupid isn't patriotic</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/06/28/the-gops-basiji-target-cap-and-tr-8-tors/comment-page-7/#comment-65565</link>
		<dc:creator>Stupid isn't patriotic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three congressmen from New Jersey voted for this because Edison&#039;s state has a high percentage of engineers and scientists. The Republicans up there are fiscally conservative but they don&#039;t consider ignorance or stupidity to be admirable values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three congressmen from New Jersey voted for this because Edison&#8217;s state has a high percentage of engineers and scientists. The Republicans up there are fiscally conservative but they don&#8217;t consider ignorance or stupidity to be admirable values.</p>
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		<title>By: DB, Gwinnettian</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB, Gwinnettian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is ’shares the blame’ close enough?&lt;/i&gt;

Well no, it&#039;s not. &quot;Just as responsible&quot; indicates equivalence. We speak far more casually of sharing blame for unwanted occurances.

Furthermore, if it were that phrase that stuck in MF&#039;s craw, he surely would&#039;ve used it in the &#039;toon. Fact is, he&#039;s making stuff up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Is ’shares the blame’ close enough?</i></p>
<p>Well no, it&#8217;s not. &#8220;Just as responsible&#8221; indicates equivalence. We speak far more casually of sharing blame for unwanted occurances.</p>
<p>Furthermore, if it were that phrase that stuck in MF&#8217;s craw, he surely would&#8217;ve used it in the &#8216;toon. Fact is, he&#8217;s making stuff up.</p>
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		<title>By: md</title>
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		<dc:creator>md</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The media is against whoever is in power and have been very critical of Obama and his policies&quot;

Must not be talking about the Obama media. The one owned by GE and the Apostle Immelt that sits at the right hand of the annointed one and has GE execs positioned to become very wealthy if cap and trade is shoved down our throats. Funny how Fox is demonized for being &quot;biased&quot;, yet never any talk about NBC. Wonder why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The media is against whoever is in power and have been very critical of Obama and his policies&#8221;</p>
<p>Must not be talking about the Obama media. The one owned by GE and the Apostle Immelt that sits at the right hand of the annointed one and has GE execs positioned to become very wealthy if cap and trade is shoved down our throats. Funny how Fox is demonized for being &#8220;biased&#8221;, yet never any talk about NBC. Wonder why?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DB, Gwinnettian

Your point one:  nice thesis.  Be interesting to find out if it has a basis in fact.

Point 2:  You serious?  Granted, you used the phrase &quot;just as responsible&quot; so if there&#039;s a cite that says &#039;responsible&#039; but not &#039;just as&#039; or &#039;as responsible&#039; but not &#039;just as&#039; is that okay?  How about:

[[KEITH OLBERMANN: Finally tonight, our number one story and the very serious, very unsettling part the Fox News Channel played in the assassination of Dr. George Tiller, a horrifying realization that a television figure can be a facilitator for domestic terrorism

This was underscored, proved even, today when a man named Frank Schaeffer wrote for the Huffington Post that, as a former member of the anti-abortion, activist far right he believes he, quote, &quot;shares the blame for the murder of Dr. Tiller,&quot; as we believe here does Fox News Channel. ]]

Is &#039;shares the blame&#039; close enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DB, Gwinnettian</p>
<p>Your point one:  nice thesis.  Be interesting to find out if it has a basis in fact.</p>
<p>Point 2:  You serious?  Granted, you used the phrase &#8220;just as responsible&#8221; so if there&#8217;s a cite that says &#8216;responsible&#8217; but not &#8216;just as&#8217; or &#8216;as responsible&#8217; but not &#8216;just as&#8217; is that okay?  How about:</p>
<p>[[KEITH OLBERMANN: Finally tonight, our number one story and the very serious, very unsettling part the Fox News Channel played in the assassination of Dr. George Tiller, a horrifying realization that a television figure can be a facilitator for domestic terrorism</p>
<p>This was underscored, proved even, today when a man named Frank Schaeffer wrote for the Huffington Post that, as a former member of the anti-abortion, activist far right he believes he, quote, "shares the blame for the murder of Dr. Tiller," as we believe here does Fox News Channel. ]]</p>
<p>Is &#8217;shares the blame&#8217; close enough?</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This legislation is the worst thing I have seen. Rather than discuss the actual points in the legislation, the best you lot can do is turn into another republican bash fest, because that does a lot of good. What kind of people are you anyway? I figure in middle school you get to feel cool if you out insult other kids, but you are supposed to be grown ups. 
This legislation has a fatal flaw and it will cripple the economy for years to come for one simple reason. It &quot;buys and sells&quot; something that isn&#039;t a product, cannot be consumed or used and provides no useful benefit what so ever. All it&#039;s going to do is drive what little industry is left out of the country and leave us with huge bills to pay. You cannot ignore basic economic precepts when requiring the buying and selling of subjective intangibles. 
No I beseech you to leave you head dutifully in the sand and go blame Bush for everything. Just make sure you have plenty of Vaseline (which will also go up in price) on hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This legislation is the worst thing I have seen. Rather than discuss the actual points in the legislation, the best you lot can do is turn into another republican bash fest, because that does a lot of good. What kind of people are you anyway? I figure in middle school you get to feel cool if you out insult other kids, but you are supposed to be grown ups.<br />
This legislation has a fatal flaw and it will cripple the economy for years to come for one simple reason. It &#8220;buys and sells&#8221; something that isn&#8217;t a product, cannot be consumed or used and provides no useful benefit what so ever. All it&#8217;s going to do is drive what little industry is left out of the country and leave us with huge bills to pay. You cannot ignore basic economic precepts when requiring the buying and selling of subjective intangibles.<br />
No I beseech you to leave you head dutifully in the sand and go blame Bush for everything. Just make sure you have plenty of Vaseline (which will also go up in price) on hand.</p>
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		<title>By: DB, Gwinnettian</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB, Gwinnettian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, one last thing about our mikey:

&lt;i&gt;you still want to make the absurd argument that liberals are more tolerant of those who don’t hew to party line. &lt;/i&gt;

Of course not only did Jay not ever say that, or anything especially like that, but it wasn&#039;t even the point of his post, which mikey seems to have completely missed, covering as it did the prospects for GOP success in 2010 if they continue eating their own like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, one last thing about our mikey:</p>
<p><i>you still want to make the absurd argument that liberals are more tolerant of those who don’t hew to party line. </i></p>
<p>Of course not only did Jay not ever say that, or anything especially like that, but it wasn&#8217;t even the point of his post, which mikey seems to have completely missed, covering as it did the prospects for GOP success in 2010 if they continue eating their own like this.</p>
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		<title>By: TnGelding</title>
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		<dc:creator>TnGelding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reality 

June 29th, 2009
8:41 am

Thanks for your &quot;guess&quot; and your opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reality </p>
<p>June 29th, 2009<br />
8:41 am</p>
<p>Thanks for your &#8220;guess&#8221; and your opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: DB, Gwinnettian</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB, Gwinnettian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul @ 8.32, per usual MF fails on several levels.

1) contrary to what&#039;s implied in the &#039;toon you&#039;ve linked, I have every confidence that the southern-sympathizing press c. 1856 did, in fact, hold abolitionists and their rhetoric responsible for John Brown&#039;s gang-banging; and

2) I challenge you to find any TV broadcaster using the words &quot;just as responsible&quot; to describe O&#039;Reilly and his pro-criminalization ilk&#039;s culpability in Dr. Tiller&#039;s murder. (some stray blogger, a letter-writer? sure. But nobody that an armchair observer is going to hear from a TV broadcaster, no.

(I used to think MF stood for something else, but in this &#039;toon&#039;s case, it&#039;s Massive Fail.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul @ 8.32, per usual MF fails on several levels.</p>
<p>1) contrary to what&#8217;s implied in the &#8216;toon you&#8217;ve linked, I have every confidence that the southern-sympathizing press c. 1856 did, in fact, hold abolitionists and their rhetoric responsible for John Brown&#8217;s gang-banging; and</p>
<p>2) I challenge you to find any TV broadcaster using the words &#8220;just as responsible&#8221; to describe O&#8217;Reilly and his pro-criminalization ilk&#8217;s culpability in Dr. Tiller&#8217;s murder. (some stray blogger, a letter-writer? sure. But nobody that an armchair observer is going to hear from a TV broadcaster, no.</p>
<p>(I used to think MF stood for something else, but in this &#8216;toon&#8217;s case, it&#8217;s Massive Fail.)</p>
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		<title>By: AmVet</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hey amvet, How do retired people get a retirement check WITHOUT BIG BUSINESS ?&quot; 

They start their own business like I did kenny. How about you? (I know, I know, it&#039;s likely a complete waste to even attempt to engage a rude boor like you.)

So here we have yet another one of these Johnny-come-latelies to a conversation (the corporate destruction of capitalism in this instance) who, try to take it hostage by going off the red herring deep end about pensions.

Brilliant. Scintillating. Erudite.

&quot;You are just another democrat that does not understand basic economics.&quot;

Just another democrat? Man. Had you an inkling of what I have written here for many, many months you would fully understand, as the rest of us do that you, obviously have no idea of what you write. But have no problem blustering away like an unknowing fool...

But that is pretty obvious from the rest of your writings...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hey amvet, How do retired people get a retirement check WITHOUT BIG BUSINESS ?&#8221; </p>
<p>They start their own business like I did kenny. How about you? (I know, I know, it&#8217;s likely a complete waste to even attempt to engage a rude boor like you.)</p>
<p>So here we have yet another one of these Johnny-come-latelies to a conversation (the corporate destruction of capitalism in this instance) who, try to take it hostage by going off the red herring deep end about pensions.</p>
<p>Brilliant. Scintillating. Erudite.</p>
<p>&#8220;You are just another democrat that does not understand basic economics.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just another democrat? Man. Had you an inkling of what I have written here for many, many months you would fully understand, as the rest of us do that you, obviously have no idea of what you write. But have no problem blustering away like an unknowing fool&#8230;</p>
<p>But that is pretty obvious from the rest of your writings&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TnGelding</title>
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		<dc:creator>TnGelding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DB, Gwinnettian 

June 29th, 2009
8:05 am

Well, they appeared to be at one time. But not anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DB, Gwinnettian </p>
<p>June 29th, 2009<br />
8:05 am</p>
<p>Well, they appeared to be at one time. But not anymore.</p>
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