Wow, Michael Jackson gone?
Yes, he was a very strange dude. He was also immensely talented, and he lived a life that could only have happened in America of the 20th century.
I was doing an internship at a newspaper in Omaha, Neb., when Elvis Presley died, ending another strange but uniquely American life. While Jackson’s death is still not confirmed officially, it feels a lot like Presley’s death did, like the official end of an era that in reality had ended a long long time ago, and pretty sadly.
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Kamchak
June 25th, 2009
6:59 pm
“What a long strange trip it’s been…”
The day more music died
June 25th, 2009
6:59 pm
Now you’ve gone and done it, Jay. We’ll be cursed with Michael look alikes and Michael spottings and a Never-ending ranch for never-ending Michael fans. Just let him rest in peace, along with Elvis.
If
June 25th, 2009
7:00 pm
If only people showed the same amount of concern for the children he molested, and their well being, as they do for Michael Jackson, the world would be a better place.
Normal
June 25th, 2009
7:03 pm
IF: You are right on…
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
7:04 pm
May he rest in peace. He’s finally found his identity.
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
7:06 pm
If
June 25th, 2009
7:00 pm
Wasn’t he tried and found not guilty?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159337,00.html
Carter is a Fool
June 25th, 2009
7:07 pm
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. That says it all about Michael Jackson. Well creepy also comes to mind.
rcs
June 25th, 2009
7:11 pm
TNG: he was found not guilty but I think most people think he really did it. Just like the OJ trial.
clyde
June 25th, 2009
7:11 pm
He has finally done something I like.
One of the earth shaking deaths in the music world was that of Hank Williams.I saw grown men openly weep at the news.
Paul
June 25th, 2009
7:18 pm
Kinda makes you wonder what happens when in a person’s life. Part of his life was more of what was thrust upon him. The rest? Who knows. Good luck to his kids establishing their own identity.
RIP
catlady
June 25th, 2009
7:18 pm
This degenerated quickly. He had some unique contributions to music over several decades. RIP
Kayaker 71
June 25th, 2009
7:24 pm
What a freak show. He paid the family that was suing him for child molestation a whopping 22M just to settle the case out of court. Then he moved to Saudi Arabia to escape the other child molestation charges and to change his luck. He should have stayed with the Jackson 5. Some people just don’t know how to handle the fame…. Mike Tyson, Elvis, Jackson and numerous rappers who are so into their own images that the real world escapes them. Rest in peace, Michael….. rest in peace.
clyde
June 25th, 2009
7:24 pm
Catlady,
This degenerated almost as fast as Jackson.
Andrea
June 25th, 2009
7:35 pm
Wow – this went to hades in a gasoline soaked basket!!
He left a phenomenal catalog of music that will fortunately endure for a very long time. He was a creative genius. I will miss him and I hope he is resting in peace. I pray his children & family will be okay.
As for all of the negative posters, I am sure if we look, we can find some pretty salacious details about your life you would rather not have discussed posthumously.
Ray
June 25th, 2009
7:37 pm
If there is one word out there that best describes an American it is ‘insecure.’ Jackson was a heck of a talent, but he had to weather the witch hunt we Americans unleash upon anyone in the public eye who doesn’t take the ’safe’ road. Most recently we saw it in American Idol when the fearless kid came in second to the ’safe’ contestant. No one, however, has ever had to endure the fearful, judgemental American wrath that Michael Jackson had to deal with.
A great, great talent. RIP
godless heathen
June 25th, 2009
7:40 pm
“He paid the family that was suing him for child molestation a whopping 22M just to settle the case out of court.”
And untold others that accepted MJ’s generosity for the priviledge of having their young children sleep over at Neverland.
A real sicko.
godless heathen
June 25th, 2009
7:44 pm
Andrea,
If you find out that as a man in my 40s I had children that I am not related to sleeping in my bed, I hope it is discussed after my death.
Why is common decency too much to expect from someone just because they are a “Pop Star”?
clyde
June 25th, 2009
7:50 pm
Andrea,
When I am dead and gone people will talk about the copious amounts of alcohol I could consume and still remain able to function.They will marvel at the hours I could work and remain productive.They will wonder aloud why I never got killed in that ‘62 Buick I used to drive like a maniac,but there will never be a whisper about child molesting.
AmVet
June 25th, 2009
7:50 pm
By way of unsolicited opinions, other than a handful of early songs, his catalog blows.
But that nut buying a huge chuck of the Beatles library really chapped my ___.
AmVet
June 25th, 2009
7:55 pm
chunk
getalife
June 25th, 2009
7:58 pm
The internet is being tested for capacity with this death.
Like him or not, it’s a huge story broken by TMZ.
Chesters Maker
June 25th, 2009
8:01 pm
“Chester” has gone to meet his maker…
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
8:01 pm
“Do you want to speak with this tone? If that is your stance then what is left to talk about… I hope you avoid interfering in Iran’s affairs and express your regret in a way that the Iranian nation is informed of it,” Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad added, according to Reuters.
Obozo, spanked!
Normal
June 25th, 2009
8:14 pm
That’s right WHINER, cheer for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad just so you can show us how much you hate President Obama…We already get it…Just sayin’. Now go put on your turban and go sit in the corner.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
8:18 pm
I’m not allowed to respond to people who f with me Abnormal, my responses maybe struck by the angry blog god before you are able to read it.
Hence, I will no longer respond to your noisy, gibberish filled corpse, run along.
shout all you want, blah, blah.
clyde
June 25th, 2009
8:22 pm
Whiner,
What is it you drink….smoke….inject?
GayGrayGeek
June 25th, 2009
8:22 pm
Normal – Ignore Andy. Treat him like the 8-year-old he is, one so developmentally challenged that he’s very proud to walk into the middle of the room and poop in public.
getalife
June 25th, 2009
8:24 pm
That is lame Andy.
Looks like Mike od’d right before a comeback.
Just like Elvis.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
8:25 pm
I’m gonna smoke clyde if he don’t stifle hisself.
clyde
June 25th, 2009
8:28 pm
Be nice ,Whiner or the bot will get you.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
8:33 pm
I thought it was kinda cute the way that Imawhackjob ruled over Obozo, scolded him about his rhetoric, aahhh, yes.
And then told his little pupil no talking until you chill.
hahahahaha, can we get an encore?
getalife
June 25th, 2009
8:33 pm
Here Andy,
Amuse yourself with this:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090625/pl_nm/us_congress_defense_1
fiscal con.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
8:40 pm
getathejoke- Read your own article, dude.
Obozo is going to veto it, so much for Rambozo, eh?
Seems the part about fighter jets scares him.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
8:50 pm
Demerol got him.
JamC
June 25th, 2009
8:51 pm
I hate to sound insensitive, but the world has lost… a PEDOPHILE. The reason he was broke was because he spent hundreds of millions using kids and paying off the parents.
Why would any decent person miss Jackson?
Carter is a Fool
June 25th, 2009
8:52 pm
Michael Jackson — eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Creepy. Talented but really strange and creepy.
DoggoneGA
June 25th, 2009
8:54 pm
“Why would any decent person miss Jackson?”
Now we’ll get to see the REAL in people who post here. The ones stupid enough to let it out, anyway.
Curious Observer
June 25th, 2009
9:01 pm
I hope all the low-life law-and-order types are satisfied now, and especially that scumbag of a judge who ordered him out of a hospital room and into court on charges for which he was exonerated. Happy now, scumbags?
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
9:05 pm
How can you tell your Somalian and Chechnyen brothers that you authorized the legislation to build the fighter jets that laid waste their as-ses?
Wouldn’t that be an uncomfortable homecoming ceremony?
Soon enough, we will have the world’s largest peace corps where there once was a undefeatable army, well, at least until they are overrun by the Chicoms.
Until then, eewwww
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
9:17 pm
The more I look at Cap and Tax the more I hope it succeeds.
This legislation will absolutely hammer the people that voted for Obozo, where with me it will be a minor inconvenience.
I was wondering why the Cons weren’t whining.
Karma.
godless heathen
June 25th, 2009
9:19 pm
News reports are that Michael was going to Wal-Mart when he collapsed. He had heard they had boys underwear half off.
The day more music died
June 25th, 2009
9:21 pm
There is no such thing as an undefeatable army and there never should be. Except maybe an army of Nicaraguan mosquitos. Now, that is something to be skeered of, right whiner.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
9:24 pm
Why are you hiding behind a new name, coward?
(Read this message quick before the angry blog god strikes it down.)
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
@@
June 25th, 2009
9:26 pm
There are politicians and then there are the Iraqi people.
Iraqis have second thoughts over June 30 date for US troops to leave
“After you guys pull out from the city I don’t know what our enemies are going to do,Thaban Hassan said. The head of an Iraqi Army battalion in Baquba, he told the American soldiers gathered in his office that “safety is not 100 per cent . . . why are the Americans leaving?”
That view is shared by residents. Dhea Taha, 32, who lives with her children near Baquba, said: “The security situation is not stable in the first place … there is an increase in terrorist activity.”
Mohammad al-Obeidi, the chairman of the Security Council of Qais and Khalis, areas of Baquba which still have sectarian tensions, said that Mr al-Maliki’s reassurances did not ease concerns.
“Iraq is like a baby right now,” he said. “It needs people to look after it.”
“If it was up to me,” a US army captain said, “we would stay in the city, take a more active role, even.”
Colonel Burt Thompson, the commander of US forces in the area, whose troops still patrol Baquba, admitted that Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi Prime Minister, had taken a gamble by insisting that his forces take control according to an agreed timetable.
“I certainly see that insurgent forces will perceive June 30 as a gap in our security plan,” said Colonel Shaun Reed, a battalion commander. “I think we will see a spike in violence based on the idea that the Iraqi security forces aren’t ready.”
Frederick Douglass
June 25th, 2009
9:27 pm
I dare any of you detractors to moon walk like Michael did, or for that matter, dance without taking a trip to the emergency room.
Redneck Convert
June 25th, 2009
9:27 pm
Well, any guy that walks around with a glove on one hand and a mask over the face is a strange one. You got to admit that.
I listen to country myself, so I don’t know nothing about his singing. Leastwise, I know he tryed to do right. He was born one of Those People but he spent a fortune trying to be White.
God will probly know the diffrence and put him in the section of Heaven for Those People. It’s still segregated up there like it should be. But somebody needs to put on his tombstone He Tried to Be White But He Wasn’t. May he rest in peace for a Darkie. Have a good night everybody.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
9:30 pm
Oh yeah, isn’t this terribly inconvenient?
We almost had a million mouth breathers trained to say Saaaannnnn-fffffooooooorrrdddd but now they are like totally distracted, how will you ever refocus them?
It’ll be like two thousand eleven before they think of anything else, hahaha
moonbat betty
June 25th, 2009
9:39 pm
hopefully, his estate will be taxed heavily and fully.
RIP michael
RIP Farrah
godless heathen
June 25th, 2009
9:45 pm
Fred,
I dare you to sleep with little boys and get away with it. You don’t have the $$.
@@
June 25th, 2009
9:49 pm
Can anyone find Obama’s dirty little secret?
Last week, the president gave a speech where he made a more sweeping guarantee: “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan, period.”
But — as the president acknowledged at his news conference Tuesday — that’s not really a pledge he can promise to deliver on. Private companies are always free to choose different health plans for their employees, and that’s not something Obama’s plan would change.
“When I say if you have your plan and you like it, . . . or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don’t have to change plans, ——>what I’m saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform,”<—— the president said Tuesday.
Angry Black Man
June 25th, 2009
9:49 pm
I whine
Can you at least stay on topic for more than one post? Goodness, I hope there are people who mourn you when you die. Can there be at least one thread without something about Iran or Obama. Damn! grow up.
Sorry about that everyone. Mike was strange to say the least, but he was one talented entertainer. I love how everyone likes to cast stones at people, but beware, everything you do in the dark will come to light. Don’t talk about other’s shortcomings just to make up for yours. Because, I don’t think any one of you are perfect enough to walk on water. If that’s the case, then Mike, Farrah, and Ed all beat us to the Rapture.
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
9:57 pm
rcs
June 25th, 2009
7:11 pm
Cetainly I have no idea, but I’d like to think he didn’t; that there was someone on this earth that could play with children and not take advantage of them. In reality, he was nothing but a man-child. If the allegations were true, then the children’s parents were guilty of pimping them.
Frederick Douglass
June 25th, 2009
9:58 pm
Depends on your definition of “sleep with” godless heathen. I’d submit to you that much of the same thing goes on behind closed doors in many
a family values setting, its just kept under wraps. BTW, any spare money
I have goes straight to the girls at Magic City, they’re working their
way through school you know.
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
9:59 pm
New focus for Michelle:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062403676_pf.html
Angry Black Man
June 25th, 2009
10:03 pm
Amen to the working girls Fred
GayGrayGeek
June 25th, 2009
10:03 pm
Andy, remind your Mommy that she forgot to give you your ADHD medication today…
godless heathen
June 25th, 2009
10:30 pm
And OJ didn’t kill anyone either.
So you think MJ wasn’t getting his jollys with these boys he was sleeping with? How naive can you be?
WTF is the world coming to when people will excuse any behavior if it is by “a star” that they admire.
Michael Jackson was a child molester, a pedophile, if you will. He spent a large amount of his wealth to keep his little a$$ out of prison. Justice for Michael Jackson would have been to have served time in The Big House as Bubba’s Little Bitch. Unfortunately death once again cheated justice.
@@
June 25th, 2009
10:31 pm
Each of these taxes is often criticized as regressive, meaning it would disproportionately affect lower-income people. But proponents counter that the poor have the most to gain from universal health coverage.
Yup! Gonna whoop those poor folk into submission, they are.
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
10:43 pm
Nearly half of our health care is already socialized medicine. Why not go all the way and put the cost on the consumers, and get it off the back of business so it can compete in the global economy?
RW-(the original)
June 25th, 2009
11:25 pm
Angry Black Man,
Thanks for providing the easy word I was looking for. I hated to jump on the bandwagon with amvet about MJ’s music because even though it was popular there was a lot of it that was pretty forgettable, but MJ was truly an entertainer and I think that’s the talent we’ll remember.
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Now wouldn’t it be nice if we could have one thread ever where half the posts weren’t fools obsessing over Andy? Far be it from me to help you clowns out, but as long as you whine about him he owns you.
godless heathen
June 25th, 2009
11:31 pm
“Nearly half of our health care is already socialized medicine. Why not go all the way and put the cost on the consumers, and get it off the back of business so it can compete in the global economy?”
I agree Tn, sortta. The problem now is not a shortage of health insurance, but rather too much of it. We should not have health insurance coverage except for catastrophic events. I remember my parents taking me to the Dr. when I was a kid, for ear infections, stitches, etc. Before we left the office, my mother would write a check to the Doctor’s office for the entire cost of the visit, and it wasn’t $10 like everyone thinks they should pay when they go to the Dr. today. Costs were reasonable, the Dr., didn’t run thousands of dollars worth of tests to pay for a big machine that he and his buddies invested in.
What a concept! People actually paying for what they use.
How the current situation will be improved when the government is the insurance agency is something I don’t see.
godless heathen
June 25th, 2009
11:33 pm
“Now wouldn’t it be nice if we could have one thread ever where half the posts weren’t fools obsessing over Andy? Far be it from me to help you clowns out, but as long as you whine about him he owns you.”
I nominate RW for post of the month!
DebbieDoRight
June 25th, 2009
11:44 pm
Just got home and read the news!!! I’m kinda sad. MJ was my first love…….I remember when ‘Bad” came out and I was a little girl and I told my mom that one day I was gonna marry Mike AND Javier, (the little boy in my class) because they were both the most beautiful boys that I’d ever seen.
http://www.yahoo.com/s/1091627
RIP Mike!!!
DebbieDoRight
June 25th, 2009
11:49 pm
I’m Bad…… I’m Bad Shum on!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFcFsVJ0nsM
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
12:04 am
A couple of my favorite MJ parodies — this is one from MadTV where the rapper/actor asks the question to the parents of the kids, “were you setting your kids up for future payments”, or something like that!!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQNj1EQN-o0&NR=1
This is a classic from Weird Al —- My hero!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8dEXpvRMB4&feature=fvsr
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
12:22 am
Last Ones……
Chris Tucker on MJ, (not literally)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W6ewKWU064&feature=related
The “always new and improved MJ”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOzsHKUrry8&feature=related
RB from Gwinnett
June 26th, 2009
12:57 am
MJ was a pedophile, folks. You all know that. Yes, he was a talented artist in his day, but none of that excuses his behavior.
On the healthcare thread, why can’t we just admit that all of this stupid healthcare discussion is nothing more than the XXXX million Americans wanting to go to the doctor at the expense of the rest of us. That’s all it is. It’s not about “single payer” or whatever else you want to call it, it’s TOTALLY about those who don’t have health coverage wanting what others have without having to pay for it. Period. When they’ve got healthcare, they’ll move on to the next thing they want without paying for it. After all, that’s the socialist way.
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
12:59 am
it’s TOTALLY about those who don’t have health coverage wanting what others have without having to pay for it. Period. When they’ve got healthcare, they’ll move on to the next thing they want without paying for it. After all, that’s the socialist way.
Right now, why don’t we ask ourselves why countless millions of people don’t have healthcare. What’s the biggest culprit? Could it be UNEMPLOYMENT?
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
1:02 am
Most healthcare is tied to a person’s employment. Loose your job, loose your healthcare. What about THOSE PEOPLE? You can’t call them Lazy….they were working until they got laid off and are probably hitting the pavement every day trying to find another job before their unemployment runs out; so are they just socialists too? If they were on meds, they can’t eve get their prescriptions refilled without seeing a doctor and with no insurance it’ll be cheaper just to wait until they get really sick and show up at Grady to get taken care of — OR get on medicaide. Either way, someone with a job is gonna pay for someone who doesn’t have one. Reality Check.
TnGelding
June 26th, 2009
1:04 am
godless heathen
June 25th, 2009
11:31 pm
I agree, catastrophic coverage is the way to go. We also have to adopt healthy lifesyles. A lot of the chronic illness is preventable. I also agree there are far too many tests being done, especially on people who have never been sick a day in their life. You’re probablyu right about the government involvement, too. But I was just thinking it was the simplest thing to do. Anything that builds on our current system will be too complex to understand and will probably drive up costs and reduce access.
RB from Gwinnett
June 26th, 2009
1:09 am
Debbie, you and I both know this isn’t about people who have recently become unemployed. The difference is I have the intellectual honesty to discuss that while you pretend this whole healtcare debate is for the poor unfortunate souls who have lost their jobs and healthcare during this economic decline. That’s BS, Debbie, and you know it.
How about food, Debbie, doesn’t everybody have the right to food too? Shouldn’t there be a single payer food program too? And cable TV? And a car? And a house? and a ………
In socialism, it never ends.
WHO CARES!!!
June 26th, 2009
1:16 am
One less child molester… And about the healthcare issue.. I underwrite insurance for a major carrier, and yes there could be improvement… But we have meetings all the time about the cost of it. Unles you are willing to give up 10 to 15% of your own net worth for healthcare shut up. It isn’t free… Tell your fellow citizens to quit having kids, graduate high school, get a job, and afford it yourself. Quit dpending on the goverment OBAMA supporters. He is going to run this country into the ground…
Thomas Jefferson” The democracy will cease to exist when it is willing to take from those who are willing to work and gie to those who are not.”
WHO CARES!!!
June 26th, 2009
1:17 am
thankyou for people like RB!!!!!!!!
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
1:21 am
Who Cares Dumbya has already run this country in the ground. TWO Wars ain’t cheap. Tax cuts that didn’t ‘trickle down” ain’t cheap. Reality Check.
RB: But what about those folks? Unemployment is at double digits and steadily rising; they don’t have healthcare; is it because they’re just too lazy? What would happen if you lost your job? would you be able to afford private health insurance? Very few people can — I’m lucky cause I’m a military dependent and can go to the Air Base for services for free; but not everyone is as lucky as I am.
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
1:24 am
How about food, Debbie, doesn’t everybody have the right to food too? Shouldn’t there be a single payer food program too? And cable TV? And a car? And a house? and a ………
1) Why are you still up so late? I thought I’d be the only one on this late…that way I can post a lot of MJ parodies that no one would see!!! DARN!!! You ruined it for me!!!
2) Come on RB, FOOD!!! You can do better than that!!! You are being facetious!
TnGelding
June 26th, 2009
1:26 am
Actually, the COBRA insurance when you lose your job is affordable now with the additional government subsidy:
http://www.medhealthinsurance.com/blog/cobra-subsidies-recovery-act/
WHO CARES!!!
June 26th, 2009
1:26 am
should we not have fought those wars Debbie? Unemployment is a direct result of population… People with nine kids and no education bring it up. There are only so many fast food restaurants in America. I mean you anyone can lay on their back collecting welfare. Then the kids obviously don’t work (alot easier to sell drugs, pimp hos etc…).. But is a viscous cycle I know… Among democrats.
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
1:28 am
Here’s one for the ex!!! YOU BA$S$$TaA#R#DD!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCgfgkrz_BA&feature=related
WHO CARES!!!
June 26th, 2009
1:29 am
and thankyou TN. the gvmt pays 60% for 9 months. so come on dems, oh yeah most of them don’t have an education much less a job so let us pay for them. we already buy diapers, food, condomns.. Wait obviously not condomns and everything else for em.
TnGelding
June 26th, 2009
1:31 am
WHO CARES!!!
June 26th, 2009
1:26 am
Well, poor folks copulating is a big problem. And having all those younguns is going to keep them poor. Maybe Obama can break the poverty cycle among African-Americans, if nothing else. And maybe it will even extend to caucasians.
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
1:38 am
should we not have fought those wars Debbie?
HECK NO!!!! Afghanistan is understandable. But what sane person, ESPECIALLY knowing all the facts about Iraq and the ghostly WMD’s that weren’t, would condone Iraq? If we condone Iraq, then why didn’t we go into Rwanda? Where GENOCIDES were taking place?
Where did those “trickle down” dollars go to? Check some off shore accounts…….
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
1:42 am
Unemployment is a direct result of population
Unemployment is a direct result of our having FEW EXPORTABLE goods being made in America!!! No factories = no jobs. Send your companies to another country so that inferior products can be made by child labor = no jobs. Reality Check.
I underwrite insurance for a major carrier, and yes there could be improvement…
BIG TIME. When you get your hospital bill and two tylenol are costing you $10 a pop (another trickle down economic theory); then YES there could be lots of improvements.
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
1:44 am
the gvmt pays 60% for 9 months.
What if you’re unemployed for MORE THAN 9 months? OR was pregnant OR had a “post operable” condition after being laid off? Where’ the safety net for people in that sphere?
RB from Gwinnett
June 26th, 2009
1:57 am
Debbie, tylenol is $10/pop because of John Edwards and his kind suing everybody for everything. Somehow, if you take your toaster in to have it fixed and they don’t fix it right, you just take it back and complain, but if you go to a wealthy doctor and he doesn’t make everything right, you sue for umpteen millions, split it with future senator John Edwards and his ho, and live the good life in Biloxi for the rest of your life. It’s not the doctor making the money, Debbie, it’s the insurance company covering the cost of malpractice insurance. Wake up, fool.
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
1:59 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bNDr1A6dTU
RB from Gwinnett
June 26th, 2009
2:00 am
BTW, Debbie, there is a safety net there. People can get help where needed. Again, sweetie, that is NOT the conversation we’re having. We’re talking about everyday people who want all the healthcare benefits others have, but don’t want to pay for them. These are not the laid off workers who lost their health insurance AND YOU KNOW THAT. Stop changing the subject, Debbie. Nobody is buying your bait and switch crap.
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
2:04 am
RB never call someone a fool. Especially since you spout such drivel as this plum statement right here: you go to a wealthy doctor and he doesn’t make everything right, you sue for umpteen millions, split it with future senator John Edwards and his ho, and live the good life in Biloxi for the rest of your life.
That statement makes ^^ makes you sound a bigger fool than even Dumbya who passed out while eating a pretzel, (supposedly — truth be known he actually fell of the wagon and knocked his punk azz out)
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
2:08 am
No one is changing the subject. I’m just bringing up the most dangerous thing to a republican….. in some circles it’s called the republican’s achilles heel; it’s kryptonite, it’s doppelganger. I’m bring FACTS into the equation. I know, I know……scary things, those facts; but hey…..I would’ve been remiss if I didn’t bring them up………….
clyde
June 26th, 2009
3:39 am
People get nasty late at night,don’t they? Now with me this isn’t late,it’s early.I’ve had my night’s sleep and I’m ready for today’s insanity.
TnGelding
June 26th, 2009
5:22 am
DebbieDoRight
June 26th, 2009
1:42 am
Actually we were manufacturing and exporting more than ever before the banking crisis, just with fewer jobs due to automation and increased productivity. Wages have been stagnant and a good portion of our society can’t afford our products and services, hence the huge credit problem. We’ve got to wean ourselves off of cheap imports and buy what we make, especially what we make best. Shipping costs alone dictate that we stop putting so much emphasis on exports. That would also save energy and help to save the environment.
http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/bp195/
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/02/us-remains-worlds-leading-manufacturer/
TnGelding
June 26th, 2009
5:37 am
RB from Gwinnett
June 26th, 2009
1:57 am
“There are at least three reasons why government champions of health care reform might consider bundling medical liability reform in the same package. First, one piece of conventional wisdom that is shared by those on both sides of the political aisle is that “defensive medicine” spurred by concern about malpractice liability is a substantial driver of the escalation of health care costs. These costs are notoriously difficult to estimate, and analysts disagree about the magnitude of their contribution to overall health expenditures.2 But trimming even 1% of total health care spending would save around $22 billion per year — not a trivial amount, particularly in lean times.”
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/NEJMp0903765
“Lawyers. Malpractice-insurance premiums and liability awards account for less than 2 percent of overall health-care spending, according to a 2004 study by the Congressional Budget Office. Defensive medicine, the practice of ordering extra tests or procedures to protect against lawsuits, might add another few percentage points, according to some estimates.
Yet 60 percent of respondents blamed lawyers for high costs, and 69 percent specifically pointed to “frivolous lawsuits.”
http://www.consumerreports.org/health/doctors-hospitals/health-care-security/who-is-to-blame-for-high-costs/health-care-security-costs.htm
TnGelding
June 26th, 2009
5:46 am
Barack attack:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW5v5jPUP4Q&feature=related
USinUK
June 26th, 2009
6:22 am
regarding MJ – he was an immensely talented, screwed up man (from what has been said, his father was one mean MF) — while his later music may not have been up to the same standards as his earlier work, he still made one heckuva contribution to the world of music.
regarding health care and the folks who are so afraid of “rationing” – if you don’t think that rationing isn’t currently happening with FOR PROFIT insurance companies, you are either blind, oblivious or incredibly naive.
USinUK
June 26th, 2009
6:27 am
RB –
“Debbie, tylenol is $10/pop because of John Edwards and his kind suing everybody for everything”
what. do you think advertising on prime-time is cheap??? drugs are expensive because of marketing (budgets for which, funny enough, ballooned after the FDA decided to allow advertising). Additionally, drug companies are trying to make all the profits they can while they still own the patent/before the drugs can be sold as a generic.
ken
June 26th, 2009
7:13 am
He never got a penny of my money.
Normal
June 26th, 2009
7:15 am
Good morning all! My thirty something daughters call me with the news yesterday…all teary eyed and after they hung up0, I flashed back to two little girls asking me to put their MJ record on so they could dance. What can a daddy do? Didn’t like the music, loved the giels.
Anyway, as I said in my downstairs post, I wish he had died the day before or the day after…I wanted the 25th of June, 2009 to be remembered as Farah’s day. Now I fear she wil;l just become an afterthought. It’s sad…Just sayin’
Normal
June 26th, 2009
7:17 am
RB and Debbie, I just have to ask…Do you see a socialist behind every tree?
DB, Gwinnettian
June 26th, 2009
7:23 am
(warning–boring stuff, scroll past if you have a life.)
Yesterday I stopped by here and I had the same reaction I often have when I don’t bother posting: “Oh jeepers, I’ve stepped into the ‘Tard Hour, really nothing to see here, buh bye.”
But I had to think a little bit about the gratuitous comments so many felt compelled to post here so soon after a famous man’s passing, and I had to wonder why just a bit.
To pull just one setup out of the bin, let’s look at this:
I hate to sound insensitive
Don’t you love that? It’s of course the exact opposite of what the writer intends; he DOES wish to sound insensitive, that’s the whole point of landing a cheap shot, picking the right moment, and BAM.
I tried to think of a ever-so-slightly analogous situation, and I landed on a time when I was online with some people I knew, and Gerald Ford had just passed away.
I remembered precisely what was on my mind at the time–that Ford had received a pass from Americans for far too long, that what he’d done in pardoning Richard Nixon, and preventing the discovery process from moving forward, which would’ve uncovered God-knows-what that might’ve spared us who-knows-what that occured down the road (take your pick: Iran-Contra, Iraq I, 9/11, Iraq II, –just throwing stuff out there, not saying any of it’s especially or even at all likely…)
And furthermore I knew we’d be hearing all kinds of crap from people who should know better like, say, Jimmy Carter, about how wonderful it was that Jerry Ford “healed the nation” and all that happy crap.
So that’s what I wanted to say as I was reading all these nice things people were posting about Ford. But of course I didn’t. Maybe fifteen, twenty years ago I would’ve because that’s just more the kind of person I was and that’s the kinda thing I would’ve done.
Anyway I’ll just say about MJ that he was obviously a very troubled man, and that what we find difficult to take about child molestation isn’t just the surface stuff–you know, that we want to protect and shelter children from harm–but that inside an adult who is inclined to treat children inappropriately is, likely, a person who was treated very badly him/herself. Where’s the bright line? Where do we say, you are not a “child” any more but rather an “adult” and any level of intimacy with younger people is not appropriate? Well, we set it where we do today at a certain age, but we didn’t always.
Anyway sorry for the rambling, just wanted to post that. and I realize i’m probably repeating what someone else has said in other words, I haven’t really read much of the thread and I frankly, probably, won’t bother to either.
Normal
June 26th, 2009
7:38 am
DB: Well spoken…
DB, Gwinnettian
June 26th, 2009
7:39 am
Sheets, peeps.