OK, so that’s a funny one, I admit
“It does indicate that men who oppose federal spending at the local level are irresistible to women.”
— Grover Norquist (H/T to TPM)
On the other hand, I can’t bring myself to read the emails apparently leaked between Mark Sanford and his Argentinian lover, and I hope that she’s allowed to keep at least some modicum of anonymity. Let that stuff stay private; prying further into the personal side of this mess is voyeurism at this point.
And as I said yesterday, I do think that in his press conference Sanford handled himself with as much dignity, grace and candor as one could muster in such a situation. I thought his references to God’s law, etc., were heartfelt as well. He was wrestling with a very real sense of personal failure on many levels, and he expressed that.
Personally, I was relieved when members of his staff — I’m guessing that’s who they were — walked up to escort him away from the microphone and podium, saving him and us from further excruciation. He should resign, and we should move on.
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RB from Gwinnett
June 25th, 2009
1:57 pm
“He should resign, and we should move on”. I agree, Jay. Just curious… should Clinton have resigned too? Did you post that answer at the time?
Normal
June 25th, 2009
1:58 pm
And as I said yesterday, I do think that in his press conference Sanford handled himself with as much dignity, grace and candor as one could muster in such a situation
————————-
For a man with his pants around his ankles, that is…Just sayin’…
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
1:58 pm
He was wigged out.
So let’s pry into his personal life and drag him around the blogosphere a few times.
eewww
Normal
June 25th, 2009
2:01 pm
I Report
You Whine 
June 25th, 2009
1:58 pm
He was wigged out.
So let’s pry into his personal life and drag him around the blogosphere a few times.
——————–
Of course you wouldn’t do that to President Obama, now would you…Just askin’…
Scooter
June 25th, 2009
2:06 pm
Why should he resign? I never cheated on my wife but If I did and got caught I wouldn’t quit my job.
Jim's a Cherry Picker
June 25th, 2009
2:07 pm
Hi Jay,
Norquist is just jealous. He’d give anything to have an affair.
So When does Kyle’s blog start?
GOP is gone
June 25th, 2009
2:08 pm
It look as if the following algorhythm is a certainty:
Middle Aged Male plus political power = zipper issues
@@
June 25th, 2009
2:11 pm
Republicans politicians usually do resign when indiscretions are made public. I wish I could say the same for all politicians.
Up until yesterday, I had never paid attention to Sanford. His apologies appeared sincere.
So tell me, jay, do you feel bad about the fun you had at his expense? Speaking in hindsight, of course.
N.J
June 25th, 2009
2:11 pm
As I said, before the religious right started asserting themselves and their moralizing into politics, the public and the press kept its nose out of most politicians personal lives. And it was Republicans who basically in recent years, turned such things into a mandate to insist that someone resign from office.
This is still basically a Republican thing so asserting that what applies to Sanford should apply to Clinton is another comparison of apples and oranges. The entire use of an elected persons personal life as setting some sort of standard for whether a person should or should not resign is a conservative moral issue, not a liberal’s. If he is going to be consistent with his conservative moralizing principals, then he should fall on his own sword. That would be living by his the public values he was forever espousing. Family values, etc.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
2:12 pm
Have to admit I thought he gave a fairly dignified performance and I agree that leaking the e-mails is not very nice. It was fun while it lasted, but now it’s time to move on to a new scandal and rest assured there’ll be one before you can switch channels.
WhoCares
June 25th, 2009
2:13 pm
RIP Farrah Fawcett. All of the sudden I feel really old.
cranky old man
June 25th, 2009
2:15 pm
I remember reading an article years ago that estimated some insanely high number (like 95%) of all men who earn more than $80,000 per year have been unfaithful to their wives. Adjusting for inflation, that would probably be somewhere between $100,000 – $150,000 in today’s dollars.
Pokey
June 25th, 2009
2:15 pm
He needs to resign. Beyond any moral judgement, he abandoned his post(S.C.)and is obviously a mental mess. Sad for his family. His resignation would be best for his wife, children, himself, and S.C.
Jay
June 25th, 2009
2:18 pm
To RB:
Yes, once it became clear that Clinton had indeed “had sex with that woman” and had lied to the country, I wrote in a column and in an AJC editorial that he should resign.
To @@: No, I don’t regret it. All the fun I had at his expense was targeted at the conflicting and frankly unbelievable stories being floated about his whereabouts. Once the press conference occurred, the fun was over, at least for me. But remind me: Did Larry Craig resign? David Vitter?
And to Who Cares: Yes, I know. I had that poster too.
Normal
June 25th, 2009
2:18 pm
WhoCares
June 25th, 2009
2:13 pm
RIP Farrah Fawcett. All of the sudden I feel really old.
——————-
One of Charlie’s Angels gone to Heaven…Just sayin’…
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
2:20 pm
NORMAL–agreed as much dignity as he could considerin’. Left you a message downstairs.
GayGrayGeek
June 25th, 2009
2:20 pm
NJ – If he is going to be consistent with his conservative moralizing principals, then he should fall on his own sword. That would be living by his the public values he was forever espousing. Family values, etc.
A friend of mine on FaceBook stated it Nicely And Succinctly yesterday:
So let’s see…we have David Vitter, Senator Wide Stance Craig, John Ensign and NOW Governor Sanford. How’s them Family Values? I guess they valued family so much they wanted more than one.
Drifter
June 25th, 2009
2:21 pm
There’s nothing funny about this story. It’s actually tragic for everyone involved. Tragic for him, tragic for his family, tragic for South Carolina and perhaps the entire nation. Here’s a man who could have rescued us from socialism before we reached the point of no return.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
2:24 pm
Drifter –it’s not Socialism. It’s Peronism.
ByteMe
June 25th, 2009
2:26 pm
Sanford is just a victim of the modern Republican movement’s focus on stay out of business’s way and let’s peep in your windows to see what you’re doing.
Except for the part where he didn’t tell anyone where he was for nearly a week, there’s no reason for him to resign because of his inability to keep his “Little Mark” tucked in his pants. And to see the Lt. Gov of SC on TV acting faux outraged with his “what if!” scenarios — none of which happened, of course — just makes me wonder if being Governor is really just a part-time job in SC anyway.
Hal
June 25th, 2009
2:26 pm
He should resign because he’s incompetent and a poor leader for South Carolina, not because he boinked some chick in Argentina.
Normal
June 25th, 2009
2:27 pm
Josef-…downstairs…funny! “Peronism”…funnier…
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
2:29 pm
Farrah Fawcett. RIP. Agreed she was a beauty, but she was also a brain.
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
2:30 pm
Image that, liberals that defended Clinton’s presidency now say a self confessed governor should resign.
Whats the word for that??
WhoCares
June 25th, 2009
2:32 pm
So maybe Sanford should switch over and be a yellow dog democrat, have an affair with Hillary (if’n he can find a couple of bags), start drinking with Teddy and quit paying taxes. He would be a shoe in for the next Democratic nomination.
@@
June 25th, 2009
2:32 pm
jay:
All the fun I had at his expense was targeted at the conflicting and frankly unbelievable stories being floated about his whereabouts.
Can you say beyond the shadow of a doubt that his staff knew otherwise? So…..I wonder if his kids were enjoying all the fun? Kids usually love their parents in spite of….it must have hurt them to watch everyone speculate. While the media is having a gay old time, their world is falling apart.
You wouldn’t want me to bring up a long list of dems who haven’t resigned, would you jay?
You’ll have to acknowledge that republican voters call for republican resignations far more frequently than do democrats.
Here’s the thing! The word hypocrisy gets thrown around a lot when it comes to republicans. Not so much when it comes to democrats. Why? Because democrats don’t stand on principles. There can be no violations of principles when there are none.
Doggone/GA
June 25th, 2009
2:33 pm
“that, liberals that defended Clinton’s presidency now say a self confessed governor should resign”
First of all, there’s nothing to “defend” about Clinton’s presidency…his private life might be a different matter. And, personally, I don’t think Sanford should resign…unless HE thinks he should resign. But then…I thought that about the NY governor too.
What’s going to be interesting is if his constituents think he should.
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
2:33 pm
Someone should go to jail for the leaked emails.
And yes, he should resign. Setting the bar higher for all elected officials and more importantly, his sons.
ByteMe
June 25th, 2009
2:34 pm
Too funny to be believed:
“This is almost like, ‘I don’t give a damn, the country’s going to Hell in a handbasket, I just want out of here,’” said Limbaugh. “He had just tried to fight the stimulus money coming to South Carolina. He didn’t want any part of it. He lost the battle. He said, ‘What the Hell. I mean, I’m — the federal government’s taking over — what the Hell, I want to enjoy life.’”
“The point is,” he added, “there are a lot of people whose spirit is just — they’re fed up, saying to Hell with it, I don’t even want to fight this anymore, I just want to get away from it.”
That’s Rush defending Sanford. Seriously. He cheated on his wife and it’s all Obama’s fault.
Normal
June 25th, 2009
2:34 pm
@@…Bless your heart…
WhoCares
June 25th, 2009
2:35 pm
Reality King….I think the word you are looking for is ‘Liberal’
Peadawg
June 25th, 2009
2:38 pm
I don’t know what higher…the number of arrests UGA’s had in the past few years, or the number of scumbag officials that have cheated on their wives
Peadawg
June 25th, 2009
2:39 pm
“Here’s the thing! The word hypocrisy gets thrown around a lot when it comes to republicans. Not so much when it comes to democrats. Why? Because democrats don’t stand on principles. There can be no violations of principles when there are none.”
HaHa AMEN! I couldn’t have said it better.
Normal
June 25th, 2009
2:40 pm
Peadawg: Bless your heart, too…
Peadawg
June 25th, 2009
2:41 pm
Thanks Normal…you too.
Doggone/GA
June 25th, 2009
2:41 pm
“Here’s the thing! The word hypocrisy gets thrown . Not so much when it comes to democrats. Why? Because democrats don’t stand on principles. There can be no violations of principles when there are none.”
The word hypocrisy doesn’t get “throw around a lot when it comes to republicans” because they have “principles”…it gets thrown around a lot because they DON’T have principles…but they like to point fingers at others for DOING THE SAME THING *THEY* ARE DOING.
“Do as I say, not as I do” is the essence of hypocrisy.
Doggone/GA
June 25th, 2009
2:42 pm
“He cheated on his wife and it’s all Obama’s fault. ”
Yep. The GOP motto: “It’s not my fault”
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
2:42 pm
So.., does this also mean that everyone who has an affair should quit their job? Where do we draw the leadership line? In a way, aren’t we all suppose to be leaders? Stone the adulterers??
catlady
June 25th, 2009
2:43 pm
There is a special place for Rush…..
So Rush says that this affair, which started a year ago, is Obama’s fault? Or just the week long trip to Lala Land?
When will everyone turn this man OFF?
And as for Sanford, he is obviously under so much stress that he cannot “perform”, at least as far as his state duties. He should bow out gracefully, and devote himself to getting healthy and trying to restore his marriage.
Of course, I think Jenny should dump him faster than a plate of maggots. NO ONE, for the sake of their marriage or anything else, should be humiliated like she has been.
Doggone/GA
June 25th, 2009
2:44 pm
“Where do we draw the leadership line?”
At impeaching someone who has had an affair?
getalife
June 25th, 2009
2:45 pm
Well, Jay has the emotion missing in cons.
Empathy.
I agree with this guy:
Clinton-Attacking Rep. To GOP: Lose “Stinking Rot Of Self-Righteousness”
Enough with the family value bs.
All three gop cheaters should man up and resign.
Doggone/GA
June 25th, 2009
2:45 pm
“Of course, I think Jenny should dump him faster than a plate of maggots. NO ONE, for the sake of their marriage or anything else, should be humiliated like she has been”
So…you don’t think she should stand by her vow: “for better or worse”?
catlady
June 25th, 2009
2:45 pm
Byteme: I loved the little face with the eyerolling thing.
GayGrayGeek
June 25th, 2009
2:46 pm
RK @ 2:42 – Isn’t that the hobby-horse y’all WingNutters have been riding, like you’re in the Kentucky Derby, since Monica?
Normal
June 25th, 2009
2:48 pm
So…you don’t think she should stand by her vow: “for better or worse”?
—————–
Last time I looked, that was a two way street…Just sayin’
Copyleft
June 25th, 2009
2:48 pm
Politicians’ personal lives will continue to matter as long as the Republicans insist on preaching and braying about morality instead of focusing on actual governing.
And it will always blow up in their faces until they figure out it’s time to get off the high horse and get down to business. Fortunately, they never will.
Peadawg
June 25th, 2009
2:49 pm
Doggone/GA, you missed the point of that paragraph. Democrats never hear the word “hypocrisy” b/c when a dem cheats, it almost expected of them. You never hear “family values” come from the dems.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
2:49 pm
Oh, for Pete’s sake, folks, this type of behavior has nothing to do with party affiliation or political philosophy.
catlady
June 25th, 2009
2:49 pm
Dog: She WAS standing by him. She knew about the affair and they were working on it. For 5 months! Then he went off for a week after she had him leave the house. He was apparently still carrying on his relationship. THAT is where the “for better or worse” was over. When he got on that plane for the AT (Argentenian Tail).
Peadawg
June 25th, 2009
2:49 pm
I take that back, You never hear “family values” come from the dems, unless they are trying to get elected. Once in office, family values go out the window for dems.
Normal
June 25th, 2009
2:51 pm
I really don’t care, I’m at that age where if you give me a choice of a wild night of sex, or a steak dinner, I’m askin’ “what kind of steak are we talkin’ about?” Ya know?
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
2:51 pm
Infidelity is generally the result of the inactions of both people in a marriage. A well watered horse never jumps the fence to drink from the creek on the other side.
getalife
June 25th, 2009
2:52 pm
“Governor Hit the Bar with the Mistress:
Posted Jun 25th 2009 2:30PM by TMZ Staff
We’ve been on the hunt in Buenos Aires, Argentina and found the bar where Governor Mark Sanford brought his mistress — so how do you say PDA in Spanish?
Carlos Soto, the owner of Guido’s Bar, says he’s seen Sanford and Maria Belen Chapur there several times over the last few months — most recently last week.
Soto says they were “all over each other” last week in his bar, “kissing, holding hands and drinking wine.”
Soto was impressed with Maria, saying she has “un cuerpazo’” — translation: a banging body.
Soto also said Maria has green eyes and dirty blonde hair.”
“Crying” is code for drinking and banging.
Paul
June 25th, 2009
2:53 pm
Farrah Fawcett – condolences. I saw where Ryan O’Neal was with her at the end. Just ’caused a couple can’t stay married doesn’t mean they aren’t a good match.
NJ – DoggoneGA – CopyLeft
You need to wait for mike to show up. According to him yesterday, most everybody has it completely wrong on the Republican politician no sex outside marriage thing. It was a rather fascinating explanation. Hint: name one Republican politician in the past decade who’s gone on about no adultery. Fun comebacks.
All I have to do is look at the Recent Threads postings to think
WOW!!!! Dems and Pres Obama gotta be having ALL KINDS of problems with their legislative agenda!
Doggone/GA
June 25th, 2009
2:57 pm
“Last time I looked, that was a two way street…Just sayin’”
And 2 wrongs don’t make a right. The real issue is that it’s between him and her…and it’s no one elses business. If they can’t work it out, then they can’t. If they can, then good for them.
And she isn’t “humiliated” unless SHE thinks she is.
getalife
June 25th, 2009
2:58 pm
How about this one:
“Rush Limbaugh defends Mark Sanford as just a guy fed up with “the country’s going to Hell in a handbasket” under Obama who fled the country “to enjoy life.”
Funny?
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
2:58 pm
NORMA
“I really don’t care, I’m at that age where if you give me a choice of a wild night of sex, or a steak dinner, I’m askin’ “what kind of steak are we talkin’ about?” Ya know?”
Is that why the Missus has you goin’ to the gym and was seen readin’ over the insurance policies? Just askin’
Doggone/GA
June 25th, 2009
2:59 pm
“Doggone/GA, you missed the point of that paragraph. Democrats never hear the word “hypocrisy” b/c when a dem cheats, it
Actually, no I didn’t miss it. When ANY politician cheats it’s “almost expected of them.” Maybe it’s true “You never hear “family values” come from the dems” – but at least they aren’t being hypocrits about it. Saying “family values” matter…while cheating on their wives.
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
2:59 pm
Copyleft is right, as Mark himself pointed out. Morality comes from God’s laws and conservatives will never push that aside for the sake of writting man’s laws.
WhoCares
June 25th, 2009
2:59 pm
I’m not passing any judgement on this guy until I see this Argentinian chick.
Normal
June 25th, 2009
3:01 pm
Josef, didn’t think of it that way…Viva Viagra!!
Doggone/GA
June 25th, 2009
3:01 pm
“THAT is where the “for better or worse” was over. When he got on that plane for the AT (Argentenian Tail).”
And it HER decision, not yours and not mine.
getalife
June 25th, 2009
3:01 pm
Or this one:
“Stewart On Sanford: Just Another Politician With A Conservative Mind And A Liberal Penis ”
Funny?
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:02 pm
josef nix
Ribeye. Prime. Dry aged.
Havta ask N-GA for a wine recommendation -
booger
June 25th, 2009
3:03 pm
This blog is a total diversion to avoid talking about Obama and his glorious agenda. Just consider, in the last two days the topic of Jay’s blogs have been:
-Sanford
-Supreme court
-Palin
-Palin [again]
-Sanford
-Stars and Stripes reporter
-Bush/Cheny
-Sanford
-Southern Baptist
-Taliban
All this while Obama is putting the hard sell on for his 1.6 billion dollar Health plan, Cap and trade tax is being debated in congress, Iran is going to Pot, N. Korea is threatening nuclear attacks….
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:04 pm
getalife
Yup, funny.
Wait… you sayin’ libs are pr!cks?!!?
That’s a little below the belt, don’tcha’ think?
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
3:06 pm
PAUL–the Unmentionable suggests a Mendoza Merlot!
getalife
June 25th, 2009
3:07 pm
Paul,
This story is all about below the belt.
ByteMe
June 25th, 2009
3:07 pm
getalife: the full quote is above at 2:34.
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:08 pm
Sanford did the typical – “I made a mistake” and “I have sinned” BS we hear from all these guys. Not to be sexist here, I’ve just never known a female politician to get caught with her skirt up.
Anywho, I would for once, just like to hear someone say, “Yeah, I cheated and that’s for me and my wife to discuss.” End of story. None of this “I have sinned” “I will ask forgiveness” BS.
The thing is having an affair isn’t always a “mistake” or a “sin.” And at what point during the affair does one believe it is an mistake or sin? When they get caught.
This all goes back to our society’s crazy notion of the “sanctity of marriage” whatever the hell that means. Some people are perfectly fine with their spouses sleeping with other people. I know it’s not the norm, but it’s true.
You can not put a national standard on what’s right and wrong when it comes to sex.
Now as to the other cloak and dagger behavior by Sanford – that’s bizzarre and needs to be investigated to see if he broke any laws. If he were just honest about the affair, said he screwed up, leave it at that, no laws broken….whatever, move on.
But these press conferences where these morons break down and beg for forgiveness and talk about who they’ve hurt – that’s just wrong. We don’t need to hear that crap.
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:09 pm
RealityKing,
“Morality comes from God’s laws”
No it doesn’t. Morality comes from cultural/societal laws. Never took Sociology 101 I see.
Question
June 25th, 2009
3:10 pm
Jay – for what reason should he resign — ethics, moral, just because??
If so, the line of resignations will be long… if there is a reason, stupidity would be top, but there again, most of our elected officials meet that criteria, especially our CA “Senator”…
BTW, remind us,what came of the LA congressman who stuffed the cash in his freezer, all of the current tax cheats, etc.???
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:13 pm
And….OMG Farrah.
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:14 pm
josef
I’ll go for that. As in, I’ll go to the store for the Merlot, you can go online to order the steaks!
getalife
LOL!
I really hesitated before I hit ’submit’ on that. Not very long, mind you, but hesitate I did –
Bosch
But then what would all the pundits talk about?
For the record, I never did think Clinton should’ve resigned. Surprised? It’s just my anti-Democratic bias coming through….
Obamoron
June 25th, 2009
3:18 pm
Leviticus was written 4000 years ago Bosch. Which sociology books are you referring to?
Normal
June 25th, 2009
3:19 pm
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:14 pm
josef
I’ll go for that. As in, I’ll go to the store for the Merlot, you can go online to order the steaks!
——————
Wait! Wait! Me too! Me too!!
Doggone/GA
June 25th, 2009
3:19 pm
“You need to wait for mike to show up”
Yeah, I saw all that…highly amusing it was too!
Normal
June 25th, 2009
3:20 pm
Obamoron…Bless your heart, too…
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:20 pm
Normal
You’re in!
Fear not, josef, AllenBrothers has a four-pack so you can order once and pay only one shipping charge!
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
3:20 pm
PAUL–My objection to Clinton wasn’t so much his gettin’ a little nookie on the side, it was his taste! I mean them gals wuz as ugly as home-made sin.
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:21 pm
Paul,
I didn’t think Clinton should have resigned either. I was horribly disappointed in him though, but not for the reason most people were. I don’t care who blew him or who he blew – he should have had enough kahunas to go “yeah, I did it…so?”
Mike "Hussein" Smith
June 25th, 2009
3:22 pm
SAnford has an insurance policy that might keep him
in office: His lieutenant governor is even flakier. He
speeds through downtown Columbia at 60 mph and lectures a
patrolman who stopped him going 95 mph on the
interstate. And a lot of people over there think he is gay.
Not that there’s anything really wrong with that.
Normal
June 25th, 2009
3:22 pm
Josef, give Clinton a break. He was 53. She was twenty five.
At his age, it’s like wine…any 25 year old will do…heh
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:22 pm
Obamoron
[[Leviticus was written 4000 years ago Bosch. Which sociology books are you referring to?]]
Jewish ones?
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:23 pm
Obamoron,
I’m not a Jew. Even if I were, I wouldn’t base what’s right and wrong based on 4000 year old cultural writings.
Doggone/GA
June 25th, 2009
3:23 pm
“I was horribly disappointed in him though”
Yes, I was too. My sister got all bent out of shape about it…but as I told here then, he’s our President…not our national preacher.
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
3:23 pm
Obamoron!??
Whoops.., sorry about that Bosch. My multiple blogonalities are coming out today. Must be that new list of layoffs. Very disheartening..
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
3:25 pm
PAUL, NORMAL–not a big steak eater, myself, but count me in on the wine. The Unmentionable is the steak and potatoes man…
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:27 pm
josef
Maybe it’s just me, but whenever I look in the mirror, I hope people don’t judge by looks –
Something I taught my sons when they were growing up and getting near dating age: “yeah, you can look at them for a minute or two, but then what? You really want to spend time with them when there’s nothing to talk about”
Bosch
I was ticked by the whole special prosecutor thing. Guess that’s why I don’t have much use for any of them.
And I really, seriously mean this: I would not be at all surprised if Clinton did not, at some level, really believe his own denials. It’s amazing how compartmented a mind can become.
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:27 pm
Doggone/GA,
I was only disappointed in that he didn’t go, “Yeah, I did it, so?” I wasn’t so bent out of shape about the lie – but it was sort of the catlyst of the super partisan we see today – it just got it started. Clinton was too stupid to see that a lie like that was just what super foaming at the mouth anti-Clinton rabid partisan hacks like Bob Barr were just waiting for. It put our nation in a terrible position that I feel we haven’t recovered from. Funny how people like Bob Barr have changed, but the political rabid foaming mouth pundits still haven’t.
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:28 pm
“as I told here then, he’s our President…not our national preacher.”
AMEN!
N.J
June 25th, 2009
3:28 pm
He should resign because he is of the political party that makes a big issue of such things. Democrats don’t care. He will either resign now, or be judged by both his party and his constituents later.
Democrats have a record of re-electing people based on scandals that are related to their personal lives, while Republicans have a tendency of throwing them out of office. Those are HIS morals. The hypocrisy is the issue, not the infidelity.
You will see elected officials not making a big deal of repenting and saying they have sinned when you remove the entire issue of personal life OUT of the public arena.
I don’t care who my auto mechanic is screwing if he can fix my car. I don’t care who my president, governor or senator is screwing as long as they are capable of doing their job. If they are capable of doing both at the same time, the more power to them. In fact those who can usually have made better presidents than the simpering moralizing idiots who cant.
Its the public who puts them in this position to begin with, and of course this is a recent political phenomenon, again one brought on by the religious right.
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:29 pm
Paul,
Oh, I believe that too. You can tell yourself that things didn’t happen, and who better to believe you than you?
Doggone/GA
June 25th, 2009
3:29 pm
“I would not be at all surprised if Clinton did not, at some level, really believe his own denials”
Part of the problem has always been that Clinton was given a definition of “sex” and what he did did NOT meet that definition…so, on a legalistic technicality…his denial was plausible.
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:30 pm
josef
I like steak every so often. Question of moderation. But one of these days, I am gonna try a dry-aged steak.
But I’ll let someone else cook it. No way am I putting that much $$$ on the grill and coming up with it cooked medium!
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
3:30 pm
BOSCH–
“I’m not a Jew. Even if I were, I wouldn’t base what’s right and wrong based on 4000 year old cultural writings.”
Watch that indefinite article, there. And while we’re at it, does the Code of Hammurabi and the rule of written law mean anything to you as a basis of a world view?
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:31 pm
Paul and NJ at 3:28,
Testify!!!
I really liked that the other day when USinUK said that. Hadn’t heard that one in years.
Shawny
June 25th, 2009
3:32 pm
He should resign?!? really?
Doggone, you are kidding, right? Did not meet the definition?
I guess Clinton was a master of many things, including re-writing Webster’s dictionary.
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:33 pm
josef,
I’ll watch that indefinate article if you’ll tell me what one is. And…I dont’ know the Code of Hammurabi either.
ty webb
June 25th, 2009
3:34 pm
oh I get it now. R-scandal bad, D-scandal not as bad! Rah Rah!
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:34 pm
DoggoneGA
Sure it was. I’ve always said, if people can’t construct a good question, don’t get ticked at someone for a specific answer.
I did read where he underwent some sex addiction therapy. Good for him. Real good.
Bosch
I kinda hoped he woulda said “none of your business.” But too many people think that anything a politician does is their business.
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:35 pm
Wait just a damn minute…..Farrah Fawcett was only on Charlie’s Angels for one year? Wow, what a year.
WhoCares
June 25th, 2009
3:35 pm
he should have had enough kahunas to go “yeah, I did it…so?”….” I mean c’mon! you’ve seen my wife….and my kid. You know it takes a really ugly mama to throw a child that looks like that. So Yeah I did an employee…on company time…on company property, and here’s the good part. My wife, my employer and even the Congress of the United States of America are all OK with it. Is this a great country or what?”
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
3:36 pm
PAUL–on looks, Mama was a big Vonnegut fan and we had a subscription to Playboy, yes for the articles, as she told us boys, “take a good look at it sons. First off there aren’t that many out there who look like that, second you probably won’t ever get one, and if you do, chances are you won’t keep it, and if you do, it’ll look like this (pointing to herself) in a few years…!
mm
June 25th, 2009
3:36 pm
Why don’t you wingnuts ever admit when one of your GOP elected officials screws up? He shouldn’t resign for boinking some chick. He should resign because he lost his pathetic court case and slithered away in embarassment without telling anyone where he was. He should resign for throwing education under the bus by not wanting to accept the stimulus money. But that’s the GOP way – Keep the voters dumbed down and fill them full of lies.
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:38 pm
ty webb,
Yeah, something like that.
As I said last night, it really is just alot more fun when a Republican gets busted for sex. Democrats are all morally inept and everyone expects it, right?
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:38 pm
Bosch
[[Farrah Fawcett was only on Charlie’s Angels for one year?]]
No way -
sane jane
June 25th, 2009
3:39 pm
Why did Sanford choose to include “people of faith” in his list of people to whom he apologizes?
Are agnostics and atheists unworthy & ineligible to being offended by his antics & the lies proffered by his office?
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:39 pm
Paul@ 3:38,
That’s what the AJC article said. I’m gonna check that out.
findog
June 25th, 2009
3:39 pm
Just got a call from 877-648-0958 and talked to Brian, who works for a company he identified as Account Services.
They can reduce my interest rates on all the credit cards I don’t have.
Almost identical to the people who could help me get extended warranty’s on cars I don’t own…
Best part is that the number they called is a temporary office number for me at a hazardous waste site.
I love those robo-call companies; I look forward to the same offer to come to my cell phone!
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
3:42 pm
BOSCH–
I’ll watch that indefinate article if you’ll tell me what one is. And…I dont’ know the Code of Hammurabi either.
Indefinte article, “a, an”
Code of Hammurabi–google it…brought from Mesoptamia via Abraham of Ur which in turn gave rise to the principles on which the Judeo-Greco-Roman, Anglo-Norman, Anglo-American branch of Western Civilization is based. As Granddaddy said when teaching it to us, “it matters very little what you think about it, it’s the basis of the legal system under which you live and your opinions will mean very little in a court of law.”
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:43 pm
Bosch
Really? So you mean, most of those episodes I watched were… reruns?
Man, I shoulda paid more attention to the plot.
On the other hand, why? I watched a lot of ‘em with the sound off!
josef
You had one cool mom -
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:43 pm
Paul,
Well, according the IMDB, she was a regular for one season and then sporadic appearances (six more) for the next season. I’m shocked.
Normal
June 25th, 2009
3:45 pm
Josef, Off subject, You read Playboy, so do you remember Barbi Benton?
Yowzer!! Any way, our unit Chaplin thought it would be fun to have a contest of “If you were an animal, what would you be and why”. the contest had a prize of a week in Tokyo. Most entrees were like , Atiger, for cunning and strength, etc. Mine, and much to the Chaplins chagrin, was the winner. I said I wanted to be Barbi Benton’s lap dog and the reason was obvious…
ty webb
June 25th, 2009
3:45 pm
Hey Bosch. That was directed at NJ/Chad.
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:45 pm
Paul,
Charlies’ Angels had a plot? Really? Hmmm. I wonder what it was?
joseph,
I thought modern laws were based on Plato or Aristotle (no that’s medicine).
sane jane
June 25th, 2009
3:45 pm
MM, I kind of disagree with your assessment. Sanford shouldn’t resign for any of those reasons. He should resign for dereliction of duty.
He’s allowed to sue. He’s allowed to slither away for a few days. He simply needs to be clear and upfront with his staff & SLED. (you can still tell the press / public “nunya biz”… but his staff shouldn’t be putting out false statements. If they don’t know, they simply need to say “we don’t know” and deal. Not take a guess about him being in the AT.)
THAT is the offense, IMHO. Not the adultery, not the slinking off. That’s his biz. But giving the slip to SLED & having your office put out false statements (some of us call this “lying”) is a fatal blow.
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
3:46 pm
ty webb,
Well excuuuuuuusssssssse me.
Turd Ferguson
June 25th, 2009
3:47 pm
Farrah has gone to that great detective agency in the sky.
Turn off the Fawcett, the party is over.
Heaven has one more angel and Charlie one less.
Rest sweet Princess…*A Tear*
Normal
June 25th, 2009
3:47 pm
Josef, I hope there is an after life…I want to meet your Grandaddy!
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:48 pm
Normal
LOL! You coulda gone far in the military. Not sure where, but far-
DB, Gwinnettian
June 25th, 2009
3:48 pm
For the record, I feel just as I did yesterday–guy’s term is up next year, why bother resigning? Is it really going to cause the state any harm if he stays on and does his job?
Beyond the rather sad, but ultimately unimportant, little fibs he told prior to getting caught, I really don’t care about his extramarital affair. Obviously a lot of voters do, so I guess he won’t be seeking higher elected office anytime soon. Big whoop.
ty webb
June 25th, 2009
3:49 pm
Bosch,
I’ll be watching and rooting for Team USA Sunday. What are their chances?
Normal
June 25th, 2009
3:49 pm
I thought medicine was Hippocrates
DB, Gwinnettian
June 25th, 2009
3:51 pm
Are agnostics and atheists unworthy & ineligible to being offended by his antics & the lies proffered by his office?
What’s that you say? An elected official shows disrespect to those who don’t share his faith in monotheism? Shocking!
Normal
June 25th, 2009
3:51 pm
Paul
June 25th, 2009
3:48 pm
Normal
LOL! You coulda gone far in the military. Not sure where, but far-
————–
That was my problem…I’d say “So what are you going to do? Cut my hair and send mr to Viet Nam?” They said “Yep.”
getalife
June 25th, 2009
3:51 pm
“This is “very damaging stuff,” Sanford declared at one point, when details of Clinton’s conduct became known. “I think it would be much better for the country and for him personally (to resign)… I come from the business side,” he said. “If you had a chairman or president in the business world facing these allegations, he’d be gone.”
Explaining his decision to back impeachment articles against Clinton, he added, “I think what he did in this matter was reprehensible… I feel very comfortable with my vote.”
It’s the hypocrisy stupid.
Resign.
DB, Gwinnettian
June 25th, 2009
3:52 pm
j-nix @ 3.36, gotta say–yer mum sounds nearly as cool as mine.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
3:53 pm
PAUL–yeah, she was. Miss her terribly but she does still come to visit, “whispering words of wisdom.”
pat
June 25th, 2009
3:55 pm
Damn, if he’d had just used a cigar, lied to the country and under oath to a grand jury, he’d would have gotten away with it…What a fool.
Doesn’t he know, only democrats are allowed to cheat.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
3:57 pm
NORMAL–how could anybody ever forget Barbi Benton! As for Granddaddy, he was, without a doubt, one of the best educated, best read, thinkers I ever will know. A patriarch of the Biblical tradition, at home in the modern world and answered only to his G-d and Granny!
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
4:01 pm
ty,
After yesterday, I’d say the US chances are pretty good! I’m so mad, I’ve got to drive to Atlanta during the game on Sunday, so I’ll miss it. Brazil and South Africa are tied 0-0 at 70 minutes. The Samba Kings don’t have the sure win either.
Redneck Convert
June 25th, 2009
4:01 pm
Well, I see the Terrists over in Somalia cut off a hand and foot of four guys they caught stealing cell phones and guns.
I wonder how they’d handle these guys that get caught cheating on their wife. Anyhow, it just goes to show you can’t trust nobody no more. All I got to say to the men on this blog is, Don’t let your wife get anywhere near a politican, no matter what party he belongs to. And don’t write nothing in a e-mail you don’t want to share with the whole world. Heck, don’t even write nothing on this blog you would be ashamed to have people know it was you that wrote it. You never know what paper or TV station is rooting around right now trying to find out your real name.
Have a good p.m. everybody.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
4:01 pm
BOSCH–the Greek classics you mention were rescued from oblivion in the west through the efforts of Maimonides, father of the Renaissance who translated them into Latin from the Arabic texts and the Greek texts held in the University in Cairo…fascinating fellow, Maimonides.
Said Artistotle unto Plato,
“Would you like another sweet potato?
Said Plato unto Aristotle,
“Thank you, I prefer the bottle.”
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
4:03 pm
I agree with you, Jay, Clinton should have resigned because he lied about his relationship with “that woman.” But the correct quote was “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs&feature=related
And as I’ve writtten here before, he was right. If he had she wouldn’t have been crying on Tripp’s shoulder. And for the record, again, she was a 22-year-old ex-intern at the time.
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/08/17/time/clinton.html
Paul
June 25th, 2009
4:04 pm
Pres Obama is threatening to veto the Defense bill. The House put in for 12 more F22s that are gonna cost billions and they also voted bunches more for a completely separate, additional engine for the F35.
Obama stands up to the Democratic corporate sellout! Yes!
sane jane
June 25th, 2009
4:04 pm
lol DB. I’m just saying, he could have apologized to everybody. Singling out “people of faith” and giving them an “extra special shout out” was strategically pointless and actually counterproductive.
(it offends freethinkers and doesn’t actually help mend fences with the religionists)
You know, if Republicans cared, that is.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
4:12 pm
NORMAL, PAUL–as y’all know our oldest has made a career of the military. When he came trying to recruit his little brother, J. said, “h**l, just go ahead and throw me in a ditch and shoot me, more time and cost effective.” Know I’m not supposed to say this, but he’s my favorite. Still got the first nickle he ever made, comes to visit “just cause I wanted to see y’all,” said he’d rather have the money than the college education, invested it wisely and managed to get through the meltdown without loosing a cent.
N.J
June 25th, 2009
4:14 pm
The problem is, that LEGALLY Ken Lay should not have been asking about Lewinsky AT ALL. Courts have ruled against the application of personal private life to try to have an elected official removed from office many times in the past starting during George Washington’s presidency, and they have been deemed as inadmissible in all cases.
There is no legal precedent for doing so. Getting him to lie under oath by asking a question which the courts have ruled should not play a part in determining a presidents qualifications for office OR anything to do with his job performance should simply have been thrown out of consideration to begin with.
In fact Hamilton turned over his love letters to the wife of a man who was blackmailing him over this, as proof that he was not involved in a counterfeiting scam that the woman’s husband was involved with. When Hamilton;s enemies tried to have him removed from office as Secretary of the Treasury, Congress ruled that an elected or appointed official could not be removed from office on the grounds of his personal life. Still Hamilton resigned because of the continual public scandal which were the result of his political enemies having the letters printed in every newspaper in the nation. But the principal established by Congress was to stay out of a persons personal life.
Scooter
June 25th, 2009
4:16 pm
Normal @ 2:51 pm,
I am with you! And,I want even ask what kind of steak it is.
Normal
June 25th, 2009
4:16 pm
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
4:12 pm
—————
The youngest always learn from the mistakes of the oldest…just ask my little sister..
Hotlanta
June 25th, 2009
4:17 pm
Wow being single looks better and better each day. I bet each man that leaves the house going to the store will have a Lo-Jack on their legs now.
DB, Gwinnettian
June 25th, 2009
4:22 pm
I bet each man that leaves the house going to the store will have a Lo-Jack on their legs now.
heh. for some Goddess-only-knows reason I am reminded of a brutal Fawlty Towers exchange:
Sybil: If I find out that money was yours you know what I’ll do Basil.
Basil (under his breath): You’ll have to sew them back on first.
Later, kids.
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
4:23 pm
Socialized countries can’t afford high tech weapons for protection…, as Obama’s European model for America dictates.
GayGrayGeek
June 25th, 2009
4:23 pm
Ty @ 3:34 : R-scandal bad, D-scandal not as bad!
You’re close. It’s “Moralizing Family Abandoner scandal bad, Non-Hypocritical scandal not as bad”.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
4:24 pm
NORMAL:
The youngest always learn from the mistakes of the oldest…just ask my little sister..
Not so sure about this, just ask my eight older siblings!
I’m the black sheep, ne’er do well, slow learner according to them!
Eric
June 25th, 2009
4:25 pm
What’s the big deal about Sanford anyway? As with Clinton, why should his private affairs automatically negate his obviously outstanding political career/talent? Reason: our society is punitive, plain and simple. No forgiveness whatsoever, and no ability to separate work ethic from bedroom ethic. Too bad!
@@
June 25th, 2009
4:26 pm
Uh Oh! the meeting between Mitchell and Netanyahu is off. Let’s see how it’s being played, shall we?
Netanyahu’s spokesman said the meeting was called off so that the Americans and Israelis could have more time to “clarify some issues.” But Israeli newspaper Yediot Aharonot then published a report citing an unnamed Israeli official, who said the U.S. administration had sent the following “stern” message to Netanyahu: “Once you’ve finished the homework we gave you on stopping construction in the settlements, let us know. Until then, there’s no point in having Mitchell fly to Paris to meet you.”
The U.S. explanation for the scrapped meeting was much tamer: State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said Netanyahu and Mitchell had canceled the meeting so that Mitchell could meet first with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak next Monday in Washington. It is still unclear who canceled on whom, but the Israelis seem intent on giving the impression that the Americans are the ones being unreasonable.
Between “BaRock” and a hard place thanks to Iran’s showing their true colors.
Stratfor alluded to this outcome right after Obama’s speech in Cairo — boxing himself in in hopes of…
The left and human rights organizations are now opposed to any negotiations with a regime that violently oppresses dissent.
The right has always been leery of negotiations but would have, at least, welcomed a president who spoke out in no uncertain terms against Iranian suppression.
Now it’s Netanyahu’s turn:
Now, Israel sees a U.S. president who is getting hammered at home for his Iran strategy —and whose options on dealing with Iran are dwindling rapidly on the international front.
Obama desperately wants to avoid harsher actions against Iran for fear that Russia will use Iran as a geopolitical lever. The Russians are already hinting privately that they can make the Iran issue more complicated for Washington, through strategic weapons sales, should the Americans fail to meet Moscow’s demands in Eurasia. In essence, Obama is fast becoming stuck in the same mess that ensnared a number of presidents before him.
The swift kick of reality/geopolitics.
Thank G_d there are grown-ups looking after him.
Paul
June 25th, 2009
4:26 pm
RealityKing
[[Socialized countries can’t afford high tech weapons for protection]]
You wanna see if there’s some way to delete that post?
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
4:27 pm
That’s right NJ, Clinton didn’t have to answer the question.
But he did, and lied. And as we all know, lying to a grand jury IS against the law. No matter how you define the word is..
mike
June 25th, 2009
4:27 pm
“He should resign, and we should move on.”
After a few days of gloating, you mean?
Paul
June 25th, 2009
4:31 pm
@@
[[Thank G_d there are grown-ups looking after him.]]
Who?
Boy, talk about meddling….
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
4:31 pm
No Paul, the socialized countries of Europe will collapse like a house of cards if it ever faces a modern enemy without the US at its back.., as history dictates.
Midori
June 25th, 2009
4:32 pm
Republicans are hypocritical idiots.
plain and simple.
just reading some of the excuses, and attacks on Lewinsky’s looks only validate that opinion.
you losers can dish it out, but you sure can’t take it.
GayGrayGeek
June 25th, 2009
4:33 pm
@@ @ 4:26 – Nice try, sweetums. Typical Republican’t Subject-Changing, there…
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
4:33 pm
And nuclear bombs are not that high tech if thats were you going. Heck even NK and Iran are building them.
Normal
June 25th, 2009
4:33 pm
I’m the black sheep, ne’er do well, slow learner according to them!
—————-
If this is true, then I don’t even want to think about it…What are they? Freakin’ Einsteins? Well, ne’er do well I can believe…hehe
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
4:36 pm
Not that 12 planes will make near as much difference to our protection as the billions in design and research cuts..
Paul
June 25th, 2009
4:37 pm
RealityKing
I believe what you posted was they can’t afford to buy modern weapons.
Frederick Douglass
June 25th, 2009
4:37 pm
pat @ 3:55, I can’t vouch for that other stuff, but how can we know that Sanford didn’t use a cigar?
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
4:38 pm
@@-Interesting post. You know I confess a politically incorret admiration for Bibi (Hebrew Tarzan) and I don’t give much of a rat’s derriere what the pack claiming the Great One is “putting him in his place.” His place is to take care of bidness as soon as he’s told “sic ‘em, boy” on Iran by the current administration.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
4:42 pm
NORMAL–well, by their standards I am. Just a little sidelight here for the GOP bashers. My brother, the one who when asked as a lad what he wanted to be when he grew up said, “a capitlaist running dog of imperialism,” recently died. A “log cabin Republican,” he left a tidy estate and the bulk of it went to his pretty-boy, who “sent me to my reward with a smile on my face. Money may not can buy happiness, but it can sure make the payments on it.”
That's just sick
June 25th, 2009
4:44 pm
Well, it is all Obama’s fault. Limbaugh finally got a round to telling his audience this little known “fact”. It’s true.
Paul
June 25th, 2009
4:44 pm
RealityKing
[[And nuclear bombs are not that high tech if thats were you going]]
Nope.
[[Not that 12 planes will make near as much difference to our protection as the billions in design and research cuts..]]
I believe they’re past design, research, development and testing and on into production and fielding into the active force.
@@
June 25th, 2009
4:44 pm
GGG:
How much discussion can be had about a politician gone astray. It’s not like it doesn’t happen everyday or at least it seems that way.
Mark Sanford.
Leaders within the GOP are calling for his resignation.
The Media (L) are enjoying a field day to distract from Obama impending failures.
The voters of S.C. should have the final say. They voted him in. If they’ve lost confidence, for whatever reason, they should be given the opportunity to vote him out next go-round.
To me it’s pretty simple.
We can talk this party or that party but the bottom line is they feel a sense of entitlement. Why shouldn’t they?….too many of us make them feel all too important.
@@
June 25th, 2009
4:47 pm
Paul:
Who?
Gates to be specific.
Scooter
June 25th, 2009
4:47 pm
Midori @ 4:32 pm,
When you walk do you make counter clockwise loops!
sane jane
June 25th, 2009
4:48 pm
Eric, re Sanford’s “outstanding political career/talent”
Are you even slightly aware of the frosty relationship he has with fellow GOPpers in the legislature? To call it “ineffective and adversarial” would be putting it lightly.
But hey, don’t let reality interfere with your glowing review.
TGT
June 25th, 2009
4:49 pm
NJ at 3:28 “I don’t care who my auto mechanic is screwing if he can fix my car. I don’t care who my president, governor or senator is screwing as long as they are capable of doing their job. If they are capable of doing both at the same time, the more power to them. In fact those who can usually have made better presidents than the simpering moralizing idiots who cant.”
Thank you for clarifying the liberal position when it comes to moral issues. A couple of questions though: If you’re so amoral, why does hypocrisy bother you? I mean if you’re okay with adultery, why not hypocrisy? Would you not care if the adultery were taking place with your spouse, sibling, parent, etc.?
It’s not that (most) liberals are immoral or amoral, it’s that they are selectively moral in the classic postmodern sense.
Paul
June 25th, 2009
4:49 pm
@@
Now that I’ll agree with.
That's just sick
June 25th, 2009
4:56 pm
I thought the hypocrisy issue had been addressed earlier — Sanford is one of those “holier than thou” types that spoke out against Clinton and how bad he was. Shoe’s on the other foot. Clear.
AmVet
June 25th, 2009
4:56 pm
So what? Another pious fraud and fake family values fat cat gets caught with his Johnson in Buenos Aires.
But as has been alluded to here earlier by one of the faithful, it’s his wife’s fault.
No wonder they keep getting trounced every other November…
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
4:57 pm
TGT
“It’s not that (most) liberals are immoral or amoral, it’s that they are selectively moral in the classic postmodern sense.”
I’m a left liberal myself and while we might disagree on a number of points, on this one I agree.
DC
June 25th, 2009
5:00 pm
Everyone is zeroing in on the sex issue and resignation. Take that issue out of the picture. Now, examine this. Your governor goes missing. Know one seems to know where he or she is. The Lieutenant Governor says he doesn’t have a clue. The commanding General of the National Guard doesn’t have a clue. The State’s Emergency Management Director doesn’t have a clue where his boss is. His staff thinks he is somewhere he is not. His wife doesn’t know where he is. He has been known to do this before.
How would you rate this Governor’s performance?
getalife
June 25th, 2009
5:01 pm
The mistress:
http://www.bittenandbound.com/2009/06/25/maria-belen-shapur-is-mark-sanford-mistress-photos/
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
5:02 pm
L-rd! I WISH the GOP had the market cornered on hypocrisy! Prop 8, preacher Warren, DADT, DOMA brief, that “memo.” With a “fierce advocate” like that, who needs the GOP? Just askin’ sittin over here on the Fifth Circle of Dante’s Inferno…
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
5:03 pm
DC
“How would you rate this Governor’s performance?”
Par for the course?
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
5:03 pm
They don’t really buy them Paul, its called foreign aid..
That's just sick
June 25th, 2009
5:04 pm
Enter your comments here
GayGrayGeek
June 25th, 2009
5:04 pm
@@ @ 4:44 – Unfortunately, the voters of SC have no chance to vote him out office. He’s in his second term, reelected in 2006 thanks to using my husband and myself as his “whippin’ boys” to Get Out The Base to vote on his Marriage Discrimination Amendment to the SC state constitution. We lived in Columbia at the time; the rhetoric and hate spewed by Sanford and his supporters was breathtaking, even taking into account that SC is the State Of Secession And Bigotry (seen the Big Flag that flies right in front of the SC state capitol building in Columbia?).
Our experience in South Carolina in 2006, following our experience in Georgia in 2004, and followed by our difficulties in Tennessee in 2008 when I had to go to an ER due to back problems, are why he and I now reside in a northern exurb of Toronto less than 12 km. from where we were legally married in 2007.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
5:07 pm
getalife–thanks, been wondering what she looked like…kinda scrawny if you astin’ me…
TGT
June 25th, 2009
5:09 pm
josef: At least we can agree on something.
GreenJeans
June 25th, 2009
5:09 pm
Twenty years later we’re still arguing over “Family Values”…what does it mean and who’s got ‘em.
“Family Values” is another nonsensical phrase of buzzwords, meant to stimulate an emotional response, but in reality means different things to different folks – even among Republicans. Clearly.
File it along with their other nonsensical gems like “Culture of Life.”
Any day of the week I will put my stock in the person who simply does the right thing, whether it is by his family or his colleagues. And they’re found on both sides of the political spectrum.
The only reason disgraced and indiscrete republicans invite so much ridicule is because, since Reagan, the party has hitched its wagon to the religious extremists. It isn’t that Democrats don’t have any more or less morals than Republicans; it’s just that Democrats haven’t come down the pike making a big, brayin’, prayin’-in-public deal about their piety.
I’ll share a bit of a quote from Charles Swindoll. This has been on my desk for ages, and sums up my thoughts about personal strength:
“Courage is not limited to the battlefield or the Indianapolis 500 or bravely catching a thief in your house.
“The real tests of courage are much deeper and much quieter.
“They are the inner tests, like remaining faithful when nobody’s looking, like enduring pain when the room is empty, like standing alone when you’re misunderstood.”
How many of our politicians have that kind of courage?
Dusty
June 25th, 2009
5:10 pm
Hmmm..well. I guess the next topic will be Bookman’s “Discussing Sanford ad nauseam is a Public Service”. To Democrats, that is.
Paul
June 25th, 2009
5:10 pm
Reality King
French have gone their own way for years. Germans build some great systems. Brits, too. Some, at times, have been superior to ours.
Even socialists develop good weapons systems.
@@
June 25th, 2009
5:12 pm
Well congratulations GGG.
Although that Big Flag holds no significance for me, I’m sure it does for descendants of those who died in the Civil War.
When it comes to the confederate flag I’ve often wondered how I would feel if someone decided that the American Flag was seen as a personal insult to some. Would I want it changed?
Not on your life.
getalife
June 25th, 2009
5:13 pm
URGENT — TMZ.com reports that Michael Jackson has been taken to hospital in Los Angeles in cardiac arrest.
Probably od’d.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
5:15 pm
GreenJeans–you sound like one of them thar moderates…be prepared to git shot in the arse left and right…
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
5:20 pm
The Iranian authorities have ordered the family of Neda Agha Soltan out of their Tehran home after shocking images of her death were circulated around the world. . . .
The police did not hand the body back to her family, her funeral was cancelled, she was buried without letting her family know and the government banned mourning ceremonies at mosques, the neighbours said. . . .
Yeah, we don’t wanna talk about Obozo-
“We have provided a path whereby Iran can reach out to the international community, engage and become a part of international norms,” Obama said at a news conference. “It is up to them to make a decision as to whether they choose that path.”
Moron!
@@
June 25th, 2009
5:21 pm
Getalife:
Leave it to you to find a picture of “the woman”. I don’t know why but I was thinking Brazillian woman.
AmVet
June 25th, 2009
5:21 pm
GreenJeans, well said.Thanks for the pics getalife.
There are only five people I feel sorry for, the cheat’s wife and those four boys. Great legacy their scumbag dad leaves them huh?
Certainly not the politically partisans and fools there, here and elsewhere who shuck and grin for him and his fellow charlatans…
Paul, I may be sticking my snout in where it doesn’t belong, but are you having another of those “we spend as much as the rest of the planet COMBINED – about $1,000,000,000,000 every single year – and it still isn’t enough” discussions?
Lets make the rubble dance!
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
5:21 pm
@@–got one for you on this. When the hooplah was brewing here in Georgia, the Indigenous American Unmentionable made the point, “well if we’re going to buy their line, then let’s take down the stars and stripes, how do you think my red a** feels looking at that? And do be reminded that the Indian Nations of Oklahoma joined with the Confederacy as equal nations and the Confederacy stands as the only American government to have never broken a treaty with the Indians.”
And, no, he wasn’t advocating removal of our national banner, just making the point that the arguments over “sensitivity” were somewhat specious and hypoctitical.
That's just sick
June 25th, 2009
5:22 pm
I don’t recall any lefties taking pot shots at real moderates — just at those right wingers that suddenly proclaim themselves to be moderate when they obviously are not. As for the right wingers, they always shoot toward the left. Their numbers continue to dwindle as a result.
Dusty
June 25th, 2009
5:24 pm
What? Don’t know what family values are? Then I guess you never had any.
Scooter
June 25th, 2009
5:24 pm
GGG @ 5:04 pm,
Thanks for moving to Canada!
Normal
June 25th, 2009
5:28 pm
Whiner: your 5:20…That is the most inane thing I have read from you, and I thought some others were hard to top. Tell me, do you open your mouth just to hear yourself pass gas? Just askin’…
Normal
June 25th, 2009
5:29 pm
Josef, I’m leaving work here in about a half hour, you working tomorrow too?
@@
June 25th, 2009
5:31 pm
!?!hypocTITIcal!?! josef????
Let me guess
a typo after looking at the 5:21 bait I set out for Getalife?
Tom
June 25th, 2009
5:31 pm
Let’s get real here! American men are soooo weak and needy. Terrified of
women. A desperate NEED to prove their make-believe “masculinity” every day to those arond them – but mostly to THEMSELVES. Pitiful and true. You Go, Little Wee-Wee Guys!
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
5:33 pm
NORMAL–@ 5:28, bless his heart. And you be nice, not all of us had mama’s who taught us to cover our mouths…
“…keep talkin’ ’bout the president won’t stop air pollution, put your hand on your mouth when you cough, that’ll help the solution…”
Staple Singers
DoggoneGA
June 25th, 2009
5:34 pm
“Did not meet the definition?”
If you’re going to quote me, please do so accurately. I said “did not meet THAT defintion”…while his activities with Monica were of a sexual nature, they did not meet the definition of “sex” that he was given to respond to. THAT definition, not THE definition. And ALL ALONG, it has been the inability of people to distinguish between THAT and THE that has been the problem with his denial.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
5:38 pm
@@ 5:31 oooh! Good one!
Like I said though, that gal scrawny…look like she ain’t got no titi to speak of…least Monica had some meat on her bones…
(Now, I’ve defended Clinton hussy in favor of Sanfords–rekon the lib-rul wommyn folks’ll take my sexist self to task?) Jus’ wonderin’
Normal
June 25th, 2009
5:39 pm
That’s just sick
June 25th, 2009
5:22 pm
————–
There are some right wingers out there that in order to take a left, they have to three rights…Just sayin’
@@
June 25th, 2009
5:40 pm
Whadd’ya know….Ahmadinejad’s been listening to you leftists:
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said June 25 that U.S. President Barack Obama should not interfere in Iran’s affairs, in the wake of a recent statement by Obama in which he said he was “appalled and outraged” by post-election violence, Hurriyet reported. Ahmadinejad also said “Mr. Obama made a mistake to say those things … our question is why he fell into this trap and said things that previous [former U.S. President George W.] Bush used to say.”
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
5:40 pm
NORMAL–yeah, two more weeks of it and then a break courtesy the tax payers of Jaw-ja. Thankee kindly…
Normal
June 25th, 2009
5:45 pm
Josef: 10 hour days here for the unforeseeable future. I have a whole stew pot full of printed circuit boards that I have to bring up to 21st century standards…as I had said downstairs, busier than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest….any see all y’all tomorrow Just threatenin’…
DoggoneGA
June 25th, 2009
5:46 pm
“Obama should not interfere in Iran’s affairs”
Someone needs to educate Ahmadinejad on the difference between words (Obama SAID) and actions (interfere is an ACTION)
AmVet
June 25th, 2009
5:47 pm
Irrefutable proof of global warming!
(Just kidding. Doing my I welch/I whine imitation…)
Houston, Texas, had a record high temperature Wednesday as a heat wave continues to grip the nation’s midsection, the National Weather Service said Thursday.
The city sweltered with a high temperature of 104 degrees Wednesday, a record high for June 24, forecasters said. The previous record high for the date was 99 degrees, set in 1980.
The previous record high measured for the month of June in Houston was 103 degrees, set on June 30, 1980, and June 18, 1934.
Heat indices, a combination of temperature and humidity, are breaking the 110-degree mark in many cities.
That's just sick
June 25th, 2009
5:49 pm
There are some right wingers out there that in order to take a left, they have to three rights…Just sayin’
That’s why the military (except the Army but they don’t count as “military”, they’re foot soldiers) turns so many of them away — right-wingers, of course. For example, when they are given marching orders, Left, Left, Left, Right, Left, they have not advanced a single step forward but they somehow managed to end up turned and facing right. They messed up KP so bad, well, just don’t get me started… .
That's just sick
June 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
I think it was in North Dakota that temperatures rose so high that parts of a road buckled. Record highs, indeed. I think that is “whiner” proof of global warming, come to think of it.
@@
June 25th, 2009
5:53 pm
Doggone:
Do you really think that difference between “words” matter to Ahmadinejad?
Do you really….
Paul
June 25th, 2009
5:53 pm
AmVet
It was one of those “Socialist Europeans get all their weapons from us via foreign aid ’cause socialists are too broke to defend themselves” discussions.
There was a valid point that most of our ‘allies’ rely a lot on us in their force structure equations. True enough. I say it’s time to zero out that part of the equation. Or close to it, anyway.
But if it wasn’t for the ’socialist Europe’ country aspect I coulda had the same discussion with anyone on the farfarleft here. They just lovvvve their growing defense budget!
Did you see my note about Barney Frank on O’Reilly? They both agreed on cutting Defense and Agriculture to fund health care. Whoda’ thunk?
Dusty
June 25th, 2009
5:54 pm
Yes, @@,
Even Ahmadinejad is finding out that Obama is finally seeing what George Bush knew from the start. That is, he is going to have to protect Americans from predators even those that start by killing their own citizens and blaming the USA.
I hope Obama learns in a hurry. He doesn’t have much time. Not with North Korea huffing and puffing one one side and Ahmadinejad suppressing, killing and blaming on the other.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
5:55 pm
PAUL–yeah, caught that…will wonders never cease!
Dusty
June 25th, 2009
5:56 pm
Dear Paul,
I think cutting Defense Funds is going to make us very unhealthy.
getalife
June 25th, 2009
5:56 pm
Monica looks better but Sanford is not the big dog.
Jackson died.
Bosch
June 25th, 2009
5:57 pm
Hey Dusty!
DoggoneGA
June 25th, 2009
5:59 pm
“Do you really think that difference between “words” matter to Ahmadinejad?”
Of course not. He’s going to say whatever he thinks he needs to say to stir up his base. Kind of like politicians clinging to the 20% vote by mentioning gay marriage and abortion, but never trying to actually DO anything “about” them.
Mr. Snarky
June 25th, 2009
6:04 pm
I don’t care if he resigns or not, but then I don’t live in SC. My guess is that he’s politically dead there though, and if he can’t be effective as Governor he probably should resign.
It’s sad that a personal matter like this would cause him to lose effectiveness as an elected official. It’s too bad our politicians get evaluated based on personal BS like this instead of their effectiveness as a legislator or an executive.
Explain to me again why is it that you have to be a solid, upright, family man/woman to be a good public servant?
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
6:06 pm
DoggoneGA in re @5:59
REPEAT:
Prop 8, preacher Warren, DADT, DOMA brief, that “memo.” With a “fierce advocate” like that, who needs the GOP? Just askin’ sittin over here on the Fifth Circle of Dante’s Inferno…
Six of one, half a dozen of the other…
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
6:07 pm
I don’t have time to review so I apologize if this has already been posted. Tea Party forced to cancel:
http://www.atlantateaparty.net/
GreenJeans
June 25th, 2009
6:08 pm
Well hello there Dusty:
Oh yes, I have family values. To my point, they just don’t look and feel like yours.
For example…let’s take a toodle down memory lane, shall we?
How many times have you insulted me just because of my blogname?
Remember the day you told Bosch you always think of him as a big, green snotted-booger? Remember that one? Sweetie? Hummm?
You like to condescend, insult, incite, demean and demoralize folks, then turn right around and drape yourself on the crucifix, wrap yourself up in the American flag and ask “Who, me??”
You can keep YOUR values, my dear. They are as hollow and phony as those trotted out by your “compassionate conservative” bretheren.
Or maybe you just play a bipolar psycho on the innertubes. Who knows.
Either way, nothing like having you chime in just to put the fine on my point.
AmVet
June 25th, 2009
6:08 pm
“It was one of those “Socialist Europeans get all their weapons from us via foreign aid ’cause socialists are too broke to defend themselves” discussions.”
Yeah, Paul and the flip side to that argument is we wouldn’t want to cut into the military industrial complex’s profitability now would we?
And as as was just noted, a trillion (with a T!) dollars a year still isn’t enough for some. No matter how much, it won’t be enough for the war first gang. A trillion here, a trillion there, so what…
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
6:09 pm
Abnormal- Am I an unwanted guest on y’alls FaceBook blog or what?
Who promised you uninterrupted twittering, birdbrain?
DoggoneGA
June 25th, 2009
6:10 pm
“REPEAT:”
Sorry…I don’t get the relevent to what I said at 5:59
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
6:11 pm
Paul
June 25th, 2009
4:04 pm
Looks like GA should have gone blue. He needs to bring Newt in to turn the Pentagon into a triangle.
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
6:11 pm
Damn-
REPORT: MICHAEL JACKSON DIES
Paul
June 25th, 2009
6:12 pm
Dusty
Oh, I think we could cut without any onerous results.
Except maybe to local politicians and economies, but I’ve never been much for using the Defense budget as a local welfare program.
Europe? I suppose one can make the case that we need some staff for our NATO commitment – mostly headquarters types. All the others? Gone.
Japan? The Pacific? First, let’s get out of the way the places where we need Navy facilities. That still leaves a huge Marine and AF presence. Y’know, it’d be a lot cheaper to buy some fast cruise ships or transports (something the military has resisted for years) than maintain all those bases.
Then there’s the sexy, institutional ‘we’ve always done it’ stuff. Y’know those parachute thingies we used during WWII? Before helicopters? Before Ospreys? We still spend gazillions teaching Army guys how to parachute. And we spend a lot for the AF to help train. Then we pay’em all ‘jump’ pay every month. Which means they gotta parachute a few times a month to qualify….
You’ve heard me say before how the AF started paying pilots to stay in. Early 1990s when economy was great and airlines were hiring. Guess what? We still pay them a bonus of $20,000 a year for flying. And airlines have had a lousy hiring record for years. Airlines still have meganumbers furloughed. And the average starting pay for civilian pilots now? Remember, there are a lot more commuter and smaller airlines, plus the big ones have really cut back. Under $40,000. So do we really think these guys halfway to retirement making $150,000 a year are gonna bail for $35,000?
Now, if we could get back to funding the military to fight just ONE war. We’ve funded them for years to fight a couple. Hasn’t worked so well. So we oughta be able to cut back.
I could go on. Those were the easy ones. Didn’t even go into all the duplication within services, let alone between services.
Really, Dusty, I think we could be stronger in defending America’s interests than we are now. For a lot less $$$$.
getalife
June 25th, 2009
6:12 pm
Michael Jackson Dies
Posted Jun 25th 2009 5:20PM by TMZ Staff
We’ve just learned Michael Jackson has died. He was 50.
Corporate media still have not broken this news.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
6:14 pm
Doggone–Didn’t really expect you would.
Paul
June 25th, 2009
6:15 pm
Report/Whine
Wow. That was young.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
6:17 pm
Michael Jackson–a wacko of the first degree, to be sure, but one of the great talents of our age.
DoggoneGA
June 25th, 2009
6:18 pm
“Doggone–Didn’t really expect you would”
I have a feeling it’s YOU who didn’t make the connection. I *was* talking about Ahmadinejad, after all. I’m just don’t quite see how HE connects with “REPEAT:
Prop 8, preacher Warren, DADT, DOMA brief, that “memo.” With a “fierce advocate” like that, who needs the GOP? Just askin’ sittin over here on the Fifth Circle of Dante’s Inferno…” – which, I presume, is actually referring to President Obama
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
6:18 pm
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
4:23 pm
And we can?
http://jrichter.newsvine.com/_news/2009/01/16/2320308-total-cost-of-bush-presidency-115-trillion
AmVet
June 25th, 2009
6:19 pm
A freakazoid rex. And his music by and large really sucked (IMHO).
But so sorry he did a Steve McQueen.
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
6:22 pm
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
4:27 pm
Did he?
See my 4:03.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
6:23 pm
Doggone–we’ve been down this road before to no useful purpose and I don’t know why I bothered. I guess I’m just a slow learner.
Paul
June 25th, 2009
6:23 pm
I was wondering – didn’t want to send it out and hex the whole thing – but these things come in threes, so they say. Farrah and Jackson.
But Ed McMahon was just the other day. So there you have it.
Kamchak
June 25th, 2009
6:24 pm
It’s not the fact of the affair, or the “family values” thing–Sanford’s biggest problem is his own words on Clinton’s affair. gttim and getalife have dug up his comments and this is what he should be judged on. Politicians love cameras and microphones and they should be mindful of what comes out of their mouths. The operative phrase is “hoisted by your own petard.”
I Report :-) You Whine :-(
June 25th, 2009
6:24 pm
Paul- All those oxygen tents and surgical glove protection didn’t do a damn bit of good, did they?
Now the libs like Jackson want to try that crap on the environment, hahahahaha, ship of fools.
You might as well live it up, cause somethings gonna git ya.
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
6:24 pm
RealityKing
June 25th, 2009
4:31 pm
What is it with you warmongers?
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
6:25 pm
Am Vet–No, no, no! Can’t help myself, but his music spanned my generation and eveytime I hear it, I still wanna get up and dance…
That's just sick
June 25th, 2009
6:27 pm
RIP Michael Jackson. It has been a thriller.
clyde
June 25th, 2009
6:28 pm
If the rumor is true,the world is a better place for it.
RW-(the original)
June 25th, 2009
6:32 pm
Yikes! When I left for the forest Farah Fawcett and Michael Jackson were still alive.
RIP U2
@@
June 25th, 2009
6:35 pm
Mooooonwalkin’.
@@
June 25th, 2009
6:37 pm
RIP U2
jinx
Jinx
JINX!!!!!!!!
DoggoneGA
June 25th, 2009
6:39 pm
“we’ve been down this road before”
We have?
getalife
June 25th, 2009
6:41 pm
Sen. Specter Comes Out For
Public Health Care Option
N.J.
June 25th, 2009
6:44 pm
“oh I get it now. R-scandal bad, D-scandal not as bad! Rah Rah!”
Nah its not the scandal at all. Its the delicious sense of justice when someone who uses their public soap box to rail against the personal lives, choices and preferences get exposed for their own.
“Let the one without sin cast the first stone”
Its just nice to see that there is a universe in which there is some sort of payback.
As far as Norquist’s assertion, anyone who has to 6,000 miles from home for something like this cannot be even remotely considered to be one of the “beautiful people”
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
6:49 pm
To elaborate on Clinton, if he had followed his statement that he did not have sexual relations with that woman with, “BUT I DID HAVE SEXUAL CONTACT, AND FOR THAT I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO HER, HER FAMILY, MY FAMILY AND THE COUNTRY. I WILL HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY PUBLICLY ABOUT THE MATTER.” I could have accepted that. But since he didn’t he should have resigned. Unless Gore had fallen on his face he would have been a shoo-in in Y2K. The stained blue dress and the strained relationship with Gore cost Gore the election.
getalife
June 25th, 2009
6:52 pm
Obama: If the Private Sector’s So Great, Why Worry About Public Option?
Oh, it’s on.
AmVet
June 25th, 2009
6:52 pm
OK, OK, josef.
I did see this a couple of years ago at Earthlink Live and must admit I loved it…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xANiW9yWvGE&feature=PlayList&p=13EEF45D2E4E1283&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=21
N.J.
June 25th, 2009
6:53 pm
The pro Moussavi brigade tend to forget that this guy was one of the leftist who wanted to establish a Socialist state in Iran until the Ayatollahs elbowed the secular parties out of the government and then Moussavi did his chameleon show and became a rabid radical Islamist.
He has unmercifully used the young to further his own political agenda, primarily because they have forgotten what went on a decade before. This is the same guy who sent kids into minefields with little plastic keys to heaven with them as they were sent to trip off mines during the Iran/Iraq War. It was Moussavi’s idea to import 50,000 little plastic keys to put around the necks of children who were sent in human waves across the mine fields laid down by Saddam Hussein.
would be relevant to know who was prime minister of Iraq during the war. Was it the runner-up in this recent election?
Yes he was prime minister during the war. One edict was to deny drivers’ licenses to women who did not wear appropriate clothes ” Mousavi, as prime minister, announced that insufficiently covered women would be denied drivers licenses..
Mousavi became the 79th prime minister of Iran on 31 October 1981.[2], and remained the prime minister of Iran until 3 August 1989, for eight years.[5]
The conflicts between Mousavi, who belonged to the left wing of the Islamic Republic, with Ali Khamenei (the current leader of Iran), who belonged to the right wing of the Islamic Republic, continued during their eight years of shared governance.[5] However, an escalation in conflicts between the two led to Mousavi’s resignation shortly after the end of the Iran-Iraq war in 1988.[5] As the prime minister, Mousavi had the full backing of Ruhollah Khomeini, the supreme leader, and he refused to accept his resignation. Mousavi is remembered as leading a government that did not tolerate dissent”
DoggoneGA
June 25th, 2009
6:53 pm
“The stained blue dress and the strained relationship with Gore cost Gore the election”
Proof positive of the pettiness of TOO MANY voters.
@@
June 25th, 2009
6:54 pm
I always think of them as traditional values as opposed to family values.
So tell me…when President Obama sends out a strong message to absent fathers, is that President Obama railing against people’s personal lives, choices and preferences?
getalife
June 25th, 2009
6:54 pm
TnGelding,
Let clenis go.
AmVet
June 25th, 2009
6:55 pm
N.J.’s right.
Karma, baby.
Sometimes its a real b!tch…
FinnMcCool
June 25th, 2009
6:57 pm
TNGelding said: “BUT I DID HAVE SEXUAL CONTACT…” and that chick can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. hehehe…’scuse me…hehehe”
Burlesconi, now that is corrupt. At least Clinton didn’t promote her or find her a great job.
@@
June 25th, 2009
6:58 pm
Al Gore’s racist father cost him my vote.
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
6:59 pm
DoggoneGA
June 25th, 2009
6:53 pm
Yeah, the GOP convinced them relative peace and great prosperity were bad tings.
getalife
June 25th, 2009
6:54 pm
Jay had responded to an inquiry about it much earlier.
Thanks for the new word.
DoggoneGA
June 25th, 2009
7:00 pm
“Al Gore’s racist father cost him my vote”
I reset my case about pettiness. Thank you for providing the proof.
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
7:01 pm
FinnMcCool
June 25th, 2009
6:57 pm
One of the more disturbing things that came out of the scandal was that Linda Tripp was pulling down $90k at the Pentagon.
Normal
June 25th, 2009
7:02 pm
Can’t stay long, but I wish MJ would have died yesterday or tomorrow. Now this will be remembered as the day MJ died and oh by thw so did Farah…so unfair.
——————-
WHINER, Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. Now go play with your G.I. Joe…Just sayin…
FinnMcCool
June 25th, 2009
7:02 pm
jeez, will we get the whole Elvis treatment we got with Elvis’ passing in ‘78? That’s an interesting aspect of America.
I believe Baudrillard even wrote about the fascination with Elvis after his death in the book America where he compared the whole place to Disneyland…a really kinda weird view of us from a Frenchman.
mike
June 25th, 2009
7:02 pm
“Its the delicious sense of justice when someone who uses their public soap box to rail against the personal lives, choices and preferences get exposed for their own”
This is such a load of crap. Republicans oppose gay marriage and abortion, yet liberals want to extrapolate these two positions into widespread invasion into personal lives and moralizing.
The truth is that nasty partisans of both stripes like to revel in the personal suffering of those who don’t share their very narrow opinions. This whole “hypocrisy” nonsense is just a thin fig leaf for petty partisan nastiness. The only hypocrites I see are the liberals who want to use personal issues as a focus for their attacks, while decrying that same practice in the same paragraph.
getalife
June 25th, 2009
7:02 pm
Dang @@,
You voted to destroy our country because his father was a good ole boy?
Geez.
FinnMcCool
June 25th, 2009
7:03 pm
sorry, that was referring to Michael Jackson passing
mike
June 25th, 2009
7:05 pm
getalife –
“You voted to destroy our country because his father was a good ole boy?”
Evidence that the apocalyptic rhetoric is not just limited to Glenn Beck. Extreme partisans use the same rhetoric, be they liberal or conservative.
AmVet
June 25th, 2009
7:07 pm
So the better choice is to vote for a guy whose grandpappy profited from companies that built Hitler’s wehrmacht?
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
7:07 pm
@@–heh, heh…gotta run, got some good news I wish I could share with YOU especially, has to do with traditional family values, but have to say nada right now…phooey…!
@@
June 25th, 2009
7:09 pm
I was jokin’ Doggone.
I found Al Gore to be a self-important egomaniac. He was a condescending jerk.
Aside from his stint in the military, he worked for “The Tennessean” for a coupl’a years plus. Other than that, he was a career politician.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
7:10 pm
Am Vet–thanks for the link! Enjoyed it.
@@
June 25th, 2009
7:14 pm
Not to mention a big ol’ crybaby.
Dusty
June 25th, 2009
7:15 pm
Hey, don’t you folks eat dinner? I’m all behind and everybody is dying while I’m gone. Somehow you don’t expect celebrities to DIE. I enjoy the old movies which makes them seem still with us.
Mr. GreenJeans,
You must have me mixed up with someone else. The worst thing I have ever asked you was “Where’s Captain Kangeroo?” You even quote language I don’t use. Have you been out in the sun today? Uh oh. That’s mean.
Paul.
I guess we can cut military expenses like most other government enterprises. I remember when Clinton cut the size of the military and seems like we came up short in a little while. Then we built it all back.
We will have ONE war If the Iraqis don’t keep blowing themselves up and Iran cools down and Kim Jong (or maybe his chosen son) stops acting like a schoolyard bully with fireworks. A lot of “ifs” there.
Hi boschie!!
The Braves lost last night and they started out so good. I decided they had eaten cheesy shrimp for breakfast instead of Wheaties. Bummer!! If this keeps up, I may be forced to watch soccer.
joseph nix,
Thought about you recently. I was reading Job when he got into a big conversation with God and God boomed out “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?……….when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy??
Well, I skipped some lines but what a conversation!! I was sure you liked the beautiful language.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
7:16 pm
NORMAL–ditto to you on my 7:07 to @@…
Keep ‘em on their toes!
getalife
June 25th, 2009
7:18 pm
Dang, my leg is getting humped again.
Comparing me to that moonbat beck.
Geez.
DoggoneGA
June 25th, 2009
7:25 pm
“I found Al Gore to be a self-important egomaniac. He was a condescending jerk”
I never found him to be so. I *never* figured out that “boring speaker” thing either…I always found him interesting to listen to.
josef nix
June 25th, 2009
7:28 pm
DUSTY–have a funny for you right quick. My Granny and Granddaddy argued with each other quoting from all manner of their readings, the Bible being one of them. Both were religious, Granddaddy by conviction, Granny by “it’s the proper thing to do.” One day Granddaddy had been giving Granny grief over his objections to the way he was being treated. Frustrated, Granny said, “well, why don’t you just curse G-d and die, then!” I was horrified and went to Mama and told her what I had just heard. She burst out laughing which was even more confusing. She took down the Bible and showed me where Job’s wife told him that when he was lamenting his fate!
Incidentally, when people would ask why I was named Josef, Granddaddy would tell them it was not for the earthly father of Jesus, but for the Old Testament one. He said with all those older siblings I needed to be reminded every time I heard my name that they’d sell me to Egypt in a flash!
His nickname for me was Jerimiah, “it doesn’t matter how right you may be, they don’t want to hear your Jerimiads…”
And, yes I do eat dinner and am being summoned…
mike
June 25th, 2009
7:31 pm
getalife –
“Comparing me to that moonbat beck.”
Yep, you guys are quite similar in your hysterical rhetoric, although he is not quite as hateful as you.
AmVet
June 25th, 2009
7:37 pm
Yep, N.J. the Iranians are a real work of art. The men who call the shots there are a bunch of grade A religious madmen. Evil. And in comparison they make ours, excepting a few recently, look tame.
Funny, back in the 1970s, I remember a couple of their pilots who trained with us. We gave them goofy names because no one could say their real ones.
And in a decade or so we’d be sucking up to Saddam in the hopes he’d kill ‘em all…
GayGrayGeek
June 25th, 2009
7:47 pm
@@ @ 6:58 – Naw, if you were honest with us you’d admit that it was the simple fact of the “-D” after his name.
@@
June 25th, 2009
8:00 pm
GGG:
I didn’t like him when he was Clinton’s VP pick but that didn’t stop me from voting for Clinton.
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
9:36 pm
Normal
June 25th, 2009
7:02 pm
Or G.I. Jane!
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
9:38 pm
mike
June 25th, 2009
7:05 pm
Speaking of Beck, does he look like he’s on the verge of a nervous breakdown to you?
TnGelding
June 25th, 2009
9:42 pm
And on the taxpayer’s dime, to boot:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090625/pl_nm/us_usa_politics_governor_1
Wonder if it came out of the stimulus funds?