OK, so that’s a funny one, I admit

“It does indicate that men who oppose federal spending at the local level are irresistible to women.”
— Grover Norquist (H/T to TPM)

On the other hand, I can’t bring myself to read the emails apparently leaked between Mark Sanford and his Argentinian lover, and I hope that she’s allowed to keep at least some modicum of anonymity. Let that stuff stay private; prying further into the personal side of this mess is voyeurism at this point.

And as I said yesterday, I do think that in his press conference Sanford handled himself with as much dignity, grace and candor as one could muster in such a situation. I thought his references to God’s law, etc., were heartfelt as well. He was wrestling with a very real sense of personal failure on many levels, and he expressed that.

Personally, I was relieved when members of his staff — I’m guessing that’s who they were — walked up to escort him away from the microphone and podium, saving him and us from further excruciation. He should resign, and we should move on.

286 comments Add your comment

RB from Gwinnett

June 25th, 2009
1:57 pm

“He should resign, and we should move on”. I agree, Jay. Just curious… should Clinton have resigned too? Did you post that answer at the time?

Normal

June 25th, 2009
1:58 pm

And as I said yesterday, I do think that in his press conference Sanford handled himself with as much dignity, grace and candor as one could muster in such a situation
————————-
For a man with his pants around his ankles, that is…Just sayin’…

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

June 25th, 2009
1:58 pm

He was wigged out.

So let’s pry into his personal life and drag him around the blogosphere a few times.

eewww

Normal

June 25th, 2009
2:01 pm

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

June 25th, 2009
1:58 pm
He was wigged out.

So let’s pry into his personal life and drag him around the blogosphere a few times.
——————–
Of course you wouldn’t do that to President Obama, now would you…Just askin’…

Scooter

June 25th, 2009
2:06 pm

Why should he resign? I never cheated on my wife but If I did and got caught I wouldn’t quit my job.

Jim's a Cherry Picker

June 25th, 2009
2:07 pm

Hi Jay,

Norquist is just jealous. He’d give anything to have an affair.

So When does Kyle’s blog start?

GOP is gone

June 25th, 2009
2:08 pm

It look as if the following algorhythm is a certainty:
Middle Aged Male plus political power = zipper issues

@@

June 25th, 2009
2:11 pm

Republicans politicians usually do resign when indiscretions are made public. I wish I could say the same for all politicians.

Up until yesterday, I had never paid attention to Sanford. His apologies appeared sincere.

So tell me, jay, do you feel bad about the fun you had at his expense? Speaking in hindsight, of course.

N.J

June 25th, 2009
2:11 pm

As I said, before the religious right started asserting themselves and their moralizing into politics, the public and the press kept its nose out of most politicians personal lives. And it was Republicans who basically in recent years, turned such things into a mandate to insist that someone resign from office.

This is still basically a Republican thing so asserting that what applies to Sanford should apply to Clinton is another comparison of apples and oranges. The entire use of an elected persons personal life as setting some sort of standard for whether a person should or should not resign is a conservative moral issue, not a liberal’s. If he is going to be consistent with his conservative moralizing principals, then he should fall on his own sword. That would be living by his the public values he was forever espousing. Family values, etc.

josef nix

June 25th, 2009
2:12 pm

Have to admit I thought he gave a fairly dignified performance and I agree that leaking the e-mails is not very nice. It was fun while it lasted, but now it’s time to move on to a new scandal and rest assured there’ll be one before you can switch channels.

WhoCares

June 25th, 2009
2:13 pm

RIP Farrah Fawcett. All of the sudden I feel really old.

cranky old man

June 25th, 2009
2:15 pm

I remember reading an article years ago that estimated some insanely high number (like 95%) of all men who earn more than $80,000 per year have been unfaithful to their wives. Adjusting for inflation, that would probably be somewhere between $100,000 – $150,000 in today’s dollars.

Pokey

June 25th, 2009
2:15 pm

He needs to resign. Beyond any moral judgement, he abandoned his post(S.C.)and is obviously a mental mess. Sad for his family. His resignation would be best for his wife, children, himself, and S.C.

Jay

June 25th, 2009
2:18 pm

To RB:

Yes, once it became clear that Clinton had indeed “had sex with that woman” and had lied to the country, I wrote in a column and in an AJC editorial that he should resign.

To @@: No, I don’t regret it. All the fun I had at his expense was targeted at the conflicting and frankly unbelievable stories being floated about his whereabouts. Once the press conference occurred, the fun was over, at least for me. But remind me: Did Larry Craig resign? David Vitter?

And to Who Cares: Yes, I know. I had that poster too.

Normal

June 25th, 2009
2:18 pm

WhoCares

June 25th, 2009
2:13 pm
RIP Farrah Fawcett. All of the sudden I feel really old.
——————-
One of Charlie’s Angels gone to Heaven…Just sayin’…

josef nix

June 25th, 2009
2:20 pm

NORMAL–agreed as much dignity as he could considerin’. Left you a message downstairs.

GayGrayGeek

June 25th, 2009
2:20 pm

NJ – If he is going to be consistent with his conservative moralizing principals, then he should fall on his own sword. That would be living by his the public values he was forever espousing. Family values, etc.

A friend of mine on FaceBook stated it Nicely And Succinctly yesterday:

So let’s see…we have David Vitter, Senator Wide Stance Craig, John Ensign and NOW Governor Sanford. How’s them Family Values? I guess they valued family so much they wanted more than one.

Drifter

June 25th, 2009
2:21 pm

There’s nothing funny about this story. It’s actually tragic for everyone involved. Tragic for him, tragic for his family, tragic for South Carolina and perhaps the entire nation. Here’s a man who could have rescued us from socialism before we reached the point of no return.

josef nix

June 25th, 2009
2:24 pm

Drifter –it’s not Socialism. It’s Peronism.

ByteMe

June 25th, 2009
2:26 pm

Sanford is just a victim of the modern Republican movement’s focus on stay out of business’s way and let’s peep in your windows to see what you’re doing.

Except for the part where he didn’t tell anyone where he was for nearly a week, there’s no reason for him to resign because of his inability to keep his “Little Mark” tucked in his pants. And to see the Lt. Gov of SC on TV acting faux outraged with his “what if!” scenarios — none of which happened, of course — just makes me wonder if being Governor is really just a part-time job in SC anyway.

Hal

June 25th, 2009
2:26 pm

He should resign because he’s incompetent and a poor leader for South Carolina, not because he boinked some chick in Argentina.

Normal

June 25th, 2009
2:27 pm

Josef-…downstairs…funny! “Peronism”…funnier…

josef nix

June 25th, 2009
2:29 pm

Farrah Fawcett. RIP. Agreed she was a beauty, but she was also a brain.

RealityKing

June 25th, 2009
2:30 pm

Image that, liberals that defended Clinton’s presidency now say a self confessed governor should resign.

Whats the word for that??

WhoCares

June 25th, 2009
2:32 pm

So maybe Sanford should switch over and be a yellow dog democrat, have an affair with Hillary (if’n he can find a couple of bags), start drinking with Teddy and quit paying taxes. He would be a shoe in for the next Democratic nomination.

@@

June 25th, 2009
2:32 pm

jay:

All the fun I had at his expense was targeted at the conflicting and frankly unbelievable stories being floated about his whereabouts.

Can you say beyond the shadow of a doubt that his staff knew otherwise? So…..I wonder if his kids were enjoying all the fun? Kids usually love their parents in spite of….it must have hurt them to watch everyone speculate. While the media is having a gay old time, their world is falling apart.

You wouldn’t want me to bring up a long list of dems who haven’t resigned, would you jay?

You’ll have to acknowledge that republican voters call for republican resignations far more frequently than do democrats.

Here’s the thing! The word hypocrisy gets thrown around a lot when it comes to republicans. Not so much when it comes to democrats. Why? Because democrats don’t stand on principles. There can be no violations of principles when there are none.

Doggone/GA

June 25th, 2009
2:33 pm

“that, liberals that defended Clinton’s presidency now say a self confessed governor should resign”

First of all, there’s nothing to “defend” about Clinton’s presidency…his private life might be a different matter. And, personally, I don’t think Sanford should resign…unless HE thinks he should resign. But then…I thought that about the NY governor too.

What’s going to be interesting is if his constituents think he should.

RealityKing

June 25th, 2009
2:33 pm

Someone should go to jail for the leaked emails.

And yes, he should resign. Setting the bar higher for all elected officials and more importantly, his sons.

ByteMe

June 25th, 2009
2:34 pm

Too funny to be believed:

“This is almost like, ‘I don’t give a damn, the country’s going to Hell in a handbasket, I just want out of here,’” said Limbaugh. “He had just tried to fight the stimulus money coming to South Carolina. He didn’t want any part of it. He lost the battle. He said, ‘What the Hell. I mean, I’m — the federal government’s taking over — what the Hell, I want to enjoy life.’”

“The point is,” he added, “there are a lot of people whose spirit is just — they’re fed up, saying to Hell with it, I don’t even want to fight this anymore, I just want to get away from it.”

That’s Rush defending Sanford. Seriously. He cheated on his wife and it’s all Obama’s fault. :roll:

Normal

June 25th, 2009
2:34 pm

@@…Bless your heart…

WhoCares

June 25th, 2009
2:35 pm

Reality King….I think the word you are looking for is ‘Liberal’

Peadawg

June 25th, 2009
2:38 pm

I don’t know what higher…the number of arrests UGA’s had in the past few years, or the number of scumbag officials that have cheated on their wives

Peadawg

June 25th, 2009
2:39 pm

“Here’s the thing! The word hypocrisy gets thrown around a lot when it comes to republicans. Not so much when it comes to democrats. Why? Because democrats don’t stand on principles. There can be no violations of principles when there are none.”

HaHa AMEN! I couldn’t have said it better.

Normal

June 25th, 2009
2:40 pm

Peadawg: Bless your heart, too…

Peadawg

June 25th, 2009
2:41 pm

Thanks Normal…you too.

Doggone/GA

June 25th, 2009
2:41 pm

“Here’s the thing! The word hypocrisy gets thrown . Not so much when it comes to democrats. Why? Because democrats don’t stand on principles. There can be no violations of principles when there are none.”

The word hypocrisy doesn’t get “throw around a lot when it comes to republicans” because they have “principles”…it gets thrown around a lot because they DON’T have principles…but they like to point fingers at others for DOING THE SAME THING *THEY* ARE DOING.

“Do as I say, not as I do” is the essence of hypocrisy.

Doggone/GA

June 25th, 2009
2:42 pm

“He cheated on his wife and it’s all Obama’s fault. ”

Yep. The GOP motto: “It’s not my fault”

RealityKing

June 25th, 2009
2:42 pm

So.., does this also mean that everyone who has an affair should quit their job? Where do we draw the leadership line? In a way, aren’t we all suppose to be leaders? Stone the adulterers??

catlady

June 25th, 2009
2:43 pm

There is a special place for Rush…..

So Rush says that this affair, which started a year ago, is Obama’s fault? Or just the week long trip to Lala Land?

When will everyone turn this man OFF?

And as for Sanford, he is obviously under so much stress that he cannot “perform”, at least as far as his state duties. He should bow out gracefully, and devote himself to getting healthy and trying to restore his marriage.

Of course, I think Jenny should dump him faster than a plate of maggots. NO ONE, for the sake of their marriage or anything else, should be humiliated like she has been.

Doggone/GA

June 25th, 2009
2:44 pm

“Where do we draw the leadership line?”

At impeaching someone who has had an affair?

getalife

June 25th, 2009
2:45 pm

Well, Jay has the emotion missing in cons.

Empathy.

I agree with this guy:

Clinton-Attacking Rep. To GOP: Lose “Stinking Rot Of Self-Righteousness”

Enough with the family value bs.

All three gop cheaters should man up and resign.

Doggone/GA

June 25th, 2009
2:45 pm

“Of course, I think Jenny should dump him faster than a plate of maggots. NO ONE, for the sake of their marriage or anything else, should be humiliated like she has been”

So…you don’t think she should stand by her vow: “for better or worse”?

catlady

June 25th, 2009
2:45 pm

Byteme: I loved the little face with the eyerolling thing.

GayGrayGeek

June 25th, 2009
2:46 pm

RK @ 2:42 – Isn’t that the hobby-horse y’all WingNutters have been riding, like you’re in the Kentucky Derby, since Monica?

Normal

June 25th, 2009
2:48 pm

So…you don’t think she should stand by her vow: “for better or worse”?
—————–
Last time I looked, that was a two way street…Just sayin’

Copyleft

June 25th, 2009
2:48 pm

Politicians’ personal lives will continue to matter as long as the Republicans insist on preaching and braying about morality instead of focusing on actual governing.

And it will always blow up in their faces until they figure out it’s time to get off the high horse and get down to business. Fortunately, they never will.

Peadawg

June 25th, 2009
2:49 pm

Doggone/GA, you missed the point of that paragraph. Democrats never hear the word “hypocrisy” b/c when a dem cheats, it almost expected of them. You never hear “family values” come from the dems.

josef nix

June 25th, 2009
2:49 pm

Oh, for Pete’s sake, folks, this type of behavior has nothing to do with party affiliation or political philosophy.

catlady

June 25th, 2009
2:49 pm

Dog: She WAS standing by him. She knew about the affair and they were working on it. For 5 months! Then he went off for a week after she had him leave the house. He was apparently still carrying on his relationship. THAT is where the “for better or worse” was over. When he got on that plane for the AT (Argentenian Tail).

Peadawg

June 25th, 2009
2:49 pm

I take that back, You never hear “family values” come from the dems, unless they are trying to get elected. Once in office, family values go out the window for dems.

Normal

June 25th, 2009
2:51 pm

I really don’t care, I’m at that age where if you give me a choice of a wild night of sex, or a steak dinner, I’m askin’ “what kind of steak are we talkin’ about?” Ya know?

RealityKing

June 25th, 2009
2:51 pm

Infidelity is generally the result of the inactions of both people in a marriage. A well watered horse never jumps the fence to drink from the creek on the other side.

getalife

June 25th, 2009
2:52 pm

“Governor Hit the Bar with the Mistress:

Posted Jun 25th 2009 2:30PM by TMZ Staff

We’ve been on the hunt in Buenos Aires, Argentina and found the bar where Governor Mark Sanford brought his mistress — so how do you say PDA in Spanish?

Carlos Soto, the owner of Guido’s Bar, says he’s seen Sanford and Maria Belen Chapur there several times over the last few months — most recently last week.

Soto says they were “all over each other” last week in his bar, “kissing, holding hands and drinking wine.”

Soto was impressed with Maria, saying she has “un cuerpazo’” — translation: a banging body.

Soto also said Maria has green eyes and dirty blonde hair.”

“Crying” is code for drinking and banging.

Paul

June 25th, 2009
2:53 pm

Farrah Fawcett – condolences. I saw where Ryan O’Neal was with her at the end. Just ’caused a couple can’t stay married doesn’t mean they aren’t a good match.

NJ – DoggoneGA – CopyLeft

You need to wait for mike to show up. According to him yesterday, most everybody has it completely wrong on the Republican politician no sex outside marriage thing. It was a rather fascinating explanation. Hint: name one Republican politician in the past decade who’s gone on about no adultery. Fun comebacks.

All I have to do is look at the Recent Threads postings to think

WOW!!!! Dems and Pres Obama gotta be having ALL KINDS of problems with their legislative agenda!

Doggone/GA

June 25th, 2009
2:57 pm

“Last time I looked, that was a two way street…Just sayin’”

And 2 wrongs don’t make a right. The real issue is that it’s between him and her…and it’s no one elses business. If they can’t work it out, then they can’t. If they can, then good for them.

And she isn’t “humiliated” unless SHE thinks she is.

getalife

June 25th, 2009
2:58 pm

How about this one:

“Rush Limbaugh defends Mark Sanford as just a guy fed up with “the country’s going to Hell in a handbasket” under Obama who fled the country “to enjoy life.”

Funny?

josef nix

June 25th, 2009
2:58 pm

NORMA
“I really don’t care, I’m at that age where if you give me a choice of a wild night of sex, or a steak dinner, I’m askin’ “what kind of steak are we talkin’ about?” Ya know?”

Is that why the Missus has you goin’ to the gym and was seen readin’ over the insurance policies? Just askin’ :-)

Doggone/GA

June 25th, 2009
2:59 pm

“Doggone/GA, you missed the point of that paragraph. Democrats never hear the word “hypocrisy” b/c when a dem cheats, it
Actually, no I didn’t miss it. When ANY politician cheats it’s “almost expected of them.” Maybe it’s true “You never hear “family values” come from the dems” – but at least they aren’t being hypocrits about it. Saying “family values” matter…while cheating on their wives.

RealityKing

June 25th, 2009
2:59 pm

Copyleft is right, as Mark himself pointed out. Morality comes from God’s laws and conservatives will never push that aside for the sake of writting man’s laws.

WhoCares

June 25th, 2009
2:59 pm

I’m not passing any judgement on this guy until I see this Argentinian chick.

Normal

June 25th, 2009
3:01 pm

Josef, didn’t think of it that way…Viva Viagra!!

Doggone/GA

June 25th, 2009
3:01 pm

“THAT is where the “for better or worse” was over. When he got on that plane for the AT (Argentenian Tail).”

And it HER decision, not yours and not mine.

getalife

June 25th, 2009
3:01 pm

Or this one:

“Stewart On Sanford: Just Another Politician With A Conservative Mind And A Liberal Penis ”

Funny?

Paul

June 25th, 2009
3:02 pm

josef nix

Ribeye. Prime. Dry aged.

Havta ask N-GA for a wine recommendation -

booger

June 25th, 2009
3:03 pm

This blog is a total diversion to avoid talking about Obama and his glorious agenda. Just consider, in the last two days the topic of Jay’s blogs have been:
-Sanford
-Supreme court
-Palin
-Palin [again]
-Sanford
-Stars and Stripes reporter
-Bush/Cheny
-Sanford
-Southern Baptist
-Taliban

All this while Obama is putting the hard sell on for his 1.6 billion dollar Health plan, Cap and trade tax is being debated in congress, Iran is going to Pot, N. Korea is threatening nuclear attacks….

Paul

June 25th, 2009
3:04 pm

getalife

Yup, funny.

Wait… you sayin’ libs are pr!cks?!!?

That’s a little below the belt, don’tcha’ think?

josef nix

June 25th, 2009
3:06 pm

PAUL–the Unmentionable suggests a Mendoza Merlot!

getalife

June 25th, 2009
3:07 pm

Paul,

This story is all about below the belt.

ByteMe

June 25th, 2009
3:07 pm

getalife: the full quote is above at 2:34.

Bosch

June 25th, 2009
3:08 pm

Sanford did the typical – “I made a mistake” and “I have sinned” BS we hear from all these guys. Not to be sexist here, I’ve just never known a female politician to get caught with her skirt up.

Anywho, I would for once, just like to hear someone say, “Yeah, I cheated and that’s for me and my wife to discuss.” End of story. None of this “I have sinned” “I will ask forgiveness” BS.

The thing is having an affair isn’t always a “mistake” or a “sin.” And at what point during the affair does one believe it is an mistake or sin? When they get caught.

This all goes back to our society’s crazy notion of the “sanctity of marriage” whatever the hell that means. Some people are perfectly fine with their spouses sleeping with other people. I know it’s not the norm, but it’s true.

You can not put a national standard on what’s right and wrong when it comes to sex.

Now as to the other cloak and dagger behavior by Sanford – that’s bizzarre and needs to be investigated to see if he broke any laws. If he were just honest about the affair, said he screwed up, leave it at that, no laws broken….whatever, move on.

But these press conferences where these morons break down and beg for forgiveness and talk about who they’ve hurt – that’s just wrong. We don’t need to hear that crap.

Bosch

June 25th, 2009
3:09 pm

RealityKing,

“Morality comes from God’s laws”

No it doesn’t. Morality comes from cultural/societal laws. Never took Sociology 101 I see.

Question

June 25th, 2009
3:10 pm

Jay – for what reason should he resign — ethics, moral, just because??

If so, the line of resignations will be long… if there is a reason, stupidity would be top, but there again, most of our elected officials meet that criteria, especially our CA “Senator”…

BTW, remind us,what came of the LA congressman who stuffed the cash in his freezer, all of the current tax cheats, etc.???

Bosch

June 25th, 2009
3:13 pm

And….OMG Farrah.

Paul

June 25th, 2009
3:14 pm

josef

I’ll go for that. As in, I’ll go to the store for the Merlot, you can go online to order the steaks!

getalife

LOL!

I really hesitated before I hit ’submit’ on that. Not very long, mind you, but hesitate I did –

Bosch

But then what would all the pundits talk about?

For the record, I never did think Clinton should’ve resigned. Surprised? It’s just my anti-Democratic bias coming through….

Obamoron

June 25th, 2009
3:18 pm

Leviticus was written 4000 years ago Bosch. Which sociology books are you referring to?

Normal

June 25th, 2009
3:19 pm

Paul

June 25th, 2009
3:14 pm
josef

I’ll go for that. As in, I’ll go to the store for the Merlot, you can go online to order the steaks!
——————
Wait! Wait! Me too! Me too!!

Doggone/GA

June 25th, 2009
3:19 pm

“You need to wait for mike to show up”

Yeah, I saw all that…highly amusing it was too!

Normal

June 25th, 2009
3:20 pm

Obamoron…Bless your heart, too…

Paul

June 25th, 2009
3:20 pm

Normal

You’re in!

Fear not, josef, AllenBrothers has a four-pack so you can order once and pay only one shipping charge!

josef nix

June 25th, 2009
3:20 pm

PAUL–My objection to Clinton wasn’t so much his gettin’ a little nookie on the side, it was his taste! I mean them gals wuz as ugly as home-made sin.

Bosch

June 25th, 2009
3:21 pm

Paul,

I didn’t think Clinton should have resigned either. I was horribly disappointed in him though, but not for the reason most people were. I don’t care who blew him or who he blew – he should have had enough kahunas to go “yeah, I did it…so?”

Mike "Hussein" Smith

June 25th, 2009
3:22 pm

SAnford has an insurance policy that might keep him
in office: His lieutenant governor is even flakier. He
speeds through downtown Columbia at 60 mph and lectures a
patrolman who stopped him going 95 mph on the
interstate. And a lot of people over there think he is gay.
Not that there’s anything really wrong with that.

Normal

June 25th, 2009
3:22 pm

Josef, give Clinton a break. He was 53. She was twenty five.
At his age, it’s like wine…any 25 year old will do…heh

Paul

June 25th, 2009
3:22 pm

Obamoron

[[Leviticus was written 4000 years ago Bosch. Which sociology books are you referring to?]]

Jewish ones?

Bosch

June 25th, 2009
3:23 pm

Obamoron,

I’m not a Jew. Even if I were, I wouldn’t base what’s right and wrong based on 4000 year old cultural writings.

Doggone/GA

June 25th, 2009
3:23 pm

“I was horribly disappointed in him though”

Yes, I was too. My sister got all bent out of shape about it…but as I told here then, he’s our President…not our national preacher.

RealityKing

June 25th, 2009
3:23 pm

Obamoron!??
Whoops.., sorry about that Bosch. My multiple blogonalities are coming out today. Must be that new list of layoffs. Very disheartening..

josef nix

June 25th, 2009
3:25 pm

PAUL, NORMAL–not a big steak eater, myself, but count me in on the wine. The Unmentionable is the steak and potatoes man…

Paul

June 25th, 2009
3:27 pm

josef

Maybe it’s just me, but whenever I look in the mirror, I hope people don’t judge by looks –

Something I taught my sons when they were growing up and getting near dating age: “yeah, you can look at them for a minute or two, but then what? You really want to spend time with them when there’s nothing to talk about”

Bosch

I was ticked by the whole special prosecutor thing. Guess that’s why I don’t have much use for any of them.

And I really, seriously mean this: I would not be at all surprised if Clinton did not, at some level, really believe his own denials. It’s amazing how compartmented a mind can become.

Bosch

June 25th, 2009
3:27 pm

Doggone/GA,

I was only disappointed in that he didn’t go, “Yeah, I did it, so?” I wasn’t so bent out of shape about the lie – but it was sort of the catlyst of the super partisan we see today – it just got it started. Clinton was too stupid to see that a lie like that was just what super foaming at the mouth anti-Clinton rabid partisan hacks like Bob Barr were just waiting for. It put our nation in a terrible position that I feel we haven’t recovered from. Funny how people like Bob Barr have changed, but the political rabid foaming mouth pundits still haven’t.

Paul

June 25th, 2009
3:28 pm

“as I told here then, he’s our President…not our national preacher.”

AMEN!

N.J

June 25th, 2009
3:28 pm

He should resign because he is of the political party that makes a big issue of such things. Democrats don’t care. He will either resign now, or be judged by both his party and his constituents later.

Democrats have a record of re-electing people based on scandals that are related to their personal lives, while Republicans have a tendency of throwing them out of office. Those are HIS morals. The hypocrisy is the issue, not the infidelity.

You will see elected officials not making a big deal of repenting and saying they have sinned when you remove the entire issue of personal life OUT of the public arena.

I don’t care who my auto mechanic is screwing if he can fix my car. I don’t care who my president, governor or senator is screwing as long as they are capable of doing their job. If they are capable of doing both at the same time, the more power to them. In fact those who can usually have made better presidents than the simpering moralizing idiots who cant.

Its the public who puts them in this position to begin with, and of course this is a recent political phenomenon, again one brought on by the religious right.

Bosch

June 25th, 2009
3:29 pm

Paul,

Oh, I believe that too. You can tell yourself that things didn’t happen, and who better to believe you than you?

Doggone/GA

June 25th, 2009
3:29 pm

“I would not be at all surprised if Clinton did not, at some level, really believe his own denials”

Part of the problem has always been that Clinton was given a definition of “sex” and what he did did NOT meet that definition…so, on a legalistic technicality…his denial was plausible.

Paul

June 25th, 2009
3:30 pm

josef

I like steak every so often. Question of moderation. But one of these days, I am gonna try a dry-aged steak.

But I’ll let someone else cook it. No way am I putting that much $$$ on the grill and coming up with it cooked medium!

josef nix

June 25th, 2009
3:30 pm

BOSCH–

“I’m not a Jew. Even if I were, I wouldn’t base what’s right and wrong based on 4000 year old cultural writings.”

Watch that indefinite article, there. And while we’re at it, does the Code of Hammurabi and the rule of written law mean anything to you as a basis of a world view?

Bosch

June 25th, 2009
3:31 pm

Paul and NJ at 3:28,

Testify!!!

I really liked that the other day when USinUK said that. Hadn’t heard that one in years.

Shawny

June 25th, 2009
3:32 pm

He should resign?!? really?
Doggone, you are kidding, right? Did not meet the definition?

I guess Clinton was a master of many things, including re-writing Webster’s dictionary.

Bosch

June 25th, 2009
3:33 pm

josef,

I’ll watch that indefinate article if you’ll tell me what one is. And…I dont’ know the Code of Hammurabi either.

ty webb

June 25th, 2009
3:34 pm

oh I get it now. R-scandal bad, D-scandal not as bad! Rah Rah!