Among GOP faithful, Palin’s the (wo)man


Well, John Ensign of Nevada is out. Mark Sanford of South Carolina is out. But Sarah Palin of Alaska seems to be very much in. According to the local media up there, most of her fellow Alaskans are convinced that she won’t be running for re-election as governor, leaving her time to seek the big enchilada.

According to a new poll by the folks at Pew, Palin is easily the most popular potential candidate for president among Republican voters. (Admittedly, some candidates weren’t included, but I doubt that anybody else — Jindal? Huckabee? — would threaten the Palin numbers).

But something interesting happened when Pew broadened the range of those polled to include Democrats and independents.
Suddenly, Mitt Romney pops up the list, while Palin’s high negatives outside the party faithful become more prominent. In fact, while Palin’s numbers have stayed pretty steady, Romney’s have been slowly but steadily improving. As Pew notes, “In February 2008, just 29% of independents had a positive impression of Romney while 46% had a negative view. Today, that balance is reversed: 44% view Romney favorably and 25% unfavorably.”

If the economy is still struggling in another two years, Romney’s business and financial background could position him nicely, at least in the general. But the poll numbers suggest he may have a hard time breaking Palin’s grip on the party faithful.

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I Report :-) You Whine :-(

June 24th, 2009
5:23 pm

Damn, am I a mind reader or what?

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

June 24th, 2009
5:18 pm

Mrs. Palin, your table is ready.

By the way, you forgot that Obozo is out too.

Buh bye floppy eared socialist.

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
5:24 pm

JAY–you jus’ tryin’ to stir up trouble, ain’t you? :-)

@@

June 24th, 2009
5:27 pm

I wouldn’t have a problem with Mitt Romney. I’m thinkin’ many voters will be looking for a candidate who’s experienced in business. My guy is still flying below the radar.

Time will tell, jay….time will tell.

Mrs. Godzilla

June 24th, 2009
5:30 pm

AMong the GOP faithful?

What’s that number now…21%?

They’ll be able to hold their next convention at the Red Roof Inn in
Birmingham.

getalife

June 24th, 2009
5:31 pm

The gop are in a death spiral and more will go dem.

“Read it and weep, Governor Sanford. It’s in South Carolina’s Code of Laws, Title 16–Crimes and Offenses, Chapter 15 “Offenses Against Morality and Decency”

SECTION 16-15-60. Adultery or fornication.

Any man or woman who shall be guilty of the crime of adultery or fornication shall be liable to indictment and, on conviction, shall be severally punished by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars nor more than five hundred dollars or imprisonment for not less than six months nor more than one year or by both fine and imprisonment, at the discretion of the court.

SECTION 16-15-70. “Adultery” defined.

“Adultery” is the living together and carnal intercourse with each other or habitual carnal intercourse with each other without living together of a man and woman when either is lawfully married to some other person. ”

Doh!

Brad Steel

June 24th, 2009
5:32 pm

A magically-educated, inarticulate governor of state with a population that doesn’t come close to a million – running for president.

Palin for president makes about as much sense as a single teenage mother as the spokesperson for abstinence.

GOP for Thee

June 24th, 2009
5:32 pm

Of course, if the economy improves but relations with Russia worsen, then Palin is a shoe-in. What, with all her foreign relationships.

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

June 24th, 2009
5:33 pm

Hey, Palin’s got higher approval numbers than Obozo.

Yay, Hot Stuff!

gttim

June 24th, 2009
5:34 pm

Regarding Sanford:

“What is even more distressing is the off-shoring of mistresses!!!

I can’t believe there wasn’t a qualified American to fill the position.”

Paul

June 24th, 2009
5:35 pm

Tolerance and inclusiveness will be a reality when Democrats and Republicans won’t make Romney’s Mormonism an issue.

Just like with Harry Reid.

Hey mike, if you came up from downstairs, can you add getalife’s 5:31 to my list of what the Republican candidate for governor of South Carolina can add to his list of issues and laws to repeal when he runs?

George American

June 24th, 2009
5:36 pm

Palin/Cheney 2012 and beyond!!!

Finally, someone with some common sense, real American values and more experience that a “community organizer” (we all know what that really is).

And all those Palin women in 2012 – watch out world. Here come the real American heartbreakers!!!

ByteMe

June 24th, 2009
5:38 pm

Do the “20-percenters” constitute a statistically valid sample size?

Are we taking bets on when Todd P. comes out and says he cheated on the “hockey mom”?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Kamchak

June 24th, 2009
5:38 pm

“They’ll be able to hold their next convention at the Red Roof Inn in Birmingham.”

No, but they did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Paul

June 24th, 2009
5:39 pm

Okay, so Republicans don’t care about the sex outside of marriage thing. Got it.

And fantasy’s okay, too.

Obama may make the cover of Newsweek, but Palin’s getting Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue…

slam dunk

ByteMe

June 24th, 2009
5:39 pm

gttim: I would have used “assume the position” instead of “fill the position”. :lol:

getalife

June 24th, 2009
5:40 pm

Looks like they have a case to impeach him Paul. Silly law.

The guy is toast.

Run Palin to lose in a landslide of epic proportion.

Eric J.

June 24th, 2009
5:41 pm

“…and more experience that a “community organizer” (we all know what that really is).”

Um, no, we *don’t* all know what that really is. George, why don’t you enlighten us with your usual keen insight and eloquently articulated wisdom?

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
5:41 pm

Kamchak No, but they did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Paul

June 24th, 2009
5:42 pm

Okay, seriously.

A big problem with such polls, as in “the most influential 100 women” is that most Americans, if you eliminate movie or tv stars, aren’t all that good at naming many.

Same principle with politicians. They mention whoever’s name comes up in the news.

So do these polls matter? Only for blogfodder.

Go back to 2004.

See where Obama ranked. I’m just guessin’ here, but…

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
5:42 pm

oops Kamchak, all this has me laughing so hard I can’t think “straight!” I meant to comment, “that’s a good one!” :-)

Todd Palin

June 24th, 2009
5:43 pm

I look forward to serving the country as First Dunce.

Sorry, world but I didn’t get no college learning unlike those uppity elitist Obama types. I got in Duke, but turned ‘em down – too many solipsistic elitist, like the WHINER. But I got’s common sense.

DoggoneGA

June 24th, 2009
5:43 pm

“Are we taking bets on when Todd P. comes out and says he cheated on the “hockey mom”?”

Or vice versa? Like Mother, like Daughter maybe?

Copyleft

June 24th, 2009
5:45 pm

The mooing herd is gonna DEMAND Palin as the nominee, aren’t they?

Oh, this is fantastic! What fun to watch them crash and burn by their own design… again.

AmVet

June 24th, 2009
5:45 pm

I can just see the GOP candidates in 2012 – Flip-flopping Mitt, 9/11! Rudy, Lazy Fred, Flat earth Sam, Deport the b@st@rds Tancredo, Duncan Who?, Huckleberry and Ron I’m not a loon Paul.

Wait! Haven’t we seen this tragicomedy before?

The “Maverick” will sit this one out and laugh his arse off.

Notwithstanding a haircut that only john Edwards can rival, Mitt’s “positions” certainly won’t get him much love from non neo-cons.

And with that juggernaut of an Uppity One cruisin? Fahgedaboutit…

getalife

June 24th, 2009
5:47 pm

Oh, there will plenty of drama that will come from the drama queen palin and family.

If the cons are crazy enough (I know, it’s a mental disorder) to run a soap opera, so be it.

Brad Steel

June 24th, 2009
5:47 pm

I had no idea SC criminal code was so raunchy and dirty. Most have been written by their Baptist delegates.

Do they still have a sodomy law? Is it as graphic as their adultery law?

If Sanford has broken SC’s sodomy laws, SC’s legislature should launch a deep probe!

Frederick Douglass

June 24th, 2009
5:48 pm

I can hear Palin cramming for the position now, ABCDEFG.

George American

June 24th, 2009
5:52 pm

Well, Eric J. (the J must stand for jenius),

For a clue, which you obviously do not have, what words usually come in front of community? Please give your answer in the form of a question.

rcs

June 24th, 2009
5:53 pm

I wonder who is the most popular potential candidate for president among Democrats

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
5:53 pm

Palin v Obama? Talk about more fun than a barrel of monkeys!

@@

June 24th, 2009
5:54 pm

I just finished reading an article proclaiming that Ron Paul was the most in-demand speaker/interview in foreign countries. I can’t imagine why.

Paul

June 24th, 2009
5:55 pm

AmVet 5:45

[[Flip-flopping Mitt]]

Hey, it worked for Obama. Gotta go with what works!

dang, this seems like a Friday afternoon thread.

must be all the people giddy looking forward to Texas winning tonight.

Kamchak

June 24th, 2009
5:55 pm

“I look forward to serving the country as First Dunce.”

You sound like a great guy Todd–I think I’ll vote for your baby grand mama because I can sit down and have a beer with you.

TnGelding

June 24th, 2009
5:58 pm

What are they thinking? Bring ‘er on!

I liked Romney last time among the GOP candidaes.

Eric J.

June 24th, 2009
5:59 pm

“what words usually come in front of community? Please give your answer in the form of a question.”

Ok…

What is…gated?
What is…bedroom?
What is…virtual?

Those are just the first three I could think of, but something tells me that’s not the answer you have in mind.

George American

June 24th, 2009
5:59 pm

josef nix
June 24th, 2009
5:53 pm
“Palin v Obama? Talk about more fun than a barrel of monkeys!”

Great another reverse racist liberal.

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:02 pm

Sarah is the GOPs girl, huh…G-d, please let President Obama get it done, please…just hopin’

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:03 pm

George American, once again…Bless your heart…

AmVet

June 24th, 2009
6:04 pm

True dat, Paul.

The HUGE difference is that it is irrefutable that the country is fed up with this miserable, hijacked and deadly fake conservatives who have a death grip on the Republican Party.

The question they are not asking themselves (in any serious manner) is, “How do we keep from losing 94% of the contested races in the next two elections? AGAIN!”

Sure they pay lip service to it, but no one of any consequence has the nads to stand up to the Manteats in Black or Newt the Resurrected Nut on that issue.

Spineless and floundering…

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
6:04 pm

George American

“Great another reverse racist liberal.”

I said a BARREL of monkeys…I’m EOC when it comes to such and, temme sumpin’, ain’t you bein’ a bit knee jerk here? Hmmm…..

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
6:04 pm

HEY NORMAL–Save me!

GOP for Thee

June 24th, 2009
6:04 pm

Reagan is more popular than Palin. That’s the winning ticket for the GOP — Reagan/Palin in 2012.

rcs

June 24th, 2009
6:05 pm

Palin isn’t a serious candidate because many feel she’s intellectually challenged, but those same critics support a Supreme Court Nominee who had to read children’s books in college.

The New York Times reported that, to get up to speed on her English skills at Princeton, Sotomayor was advised to read children’s classics and study basic grammar books during her summers. How do you graduate first in your class at Princeton if your summer reading consists of “Chicken Little” and “The Troll Under the Bridge”?

Funny how you don’t see that on SNL.

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:06 pm

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

June 24th, 2009
5:33 pm
Hey, Palin’s got higher approval numbers than Obozo.

Yay, Hot Stuff!
——————————-
Only with the GOP faithful…by the way, is that an oxymoron, considering Governor Stanford?

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:06 pm

Josef, just bless his heart…

DoggoneGA

June 24th, 2009
6:08 pm

“had to read children’s books in college”

Sounds like a good course of children’s classics would do YOU a LOT of good.

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:08 pm

GOP for Thee

June 24th, 2009
6:04 pm
Reagan is more popular than Palin. That’s the winning ticket for the GOP — Reagan/Palin in 2012.
———————–
A good GOP ticket, one dead and one brain dead…that could win…Just sayin’

TnGelding

June 24th, 2009
6:08 pm

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:10 pm

Childrens Book: The Tale of Two Cities, Moby Dick (No, not the gov), Treasure Island, The three Musketeers, Oliver Twist, need I go on..,.

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
6:11 pm

NORMAL–yeah, but can I still have the chocolate mousse the Unmentionable has on the menu for dinner?

TnGelding

June 24th, 2009
6:11 pm

rcs

June 24th, 2009
6:05 pm

Depends on the level:

http://www.hbook.com/pdf/childrensclassics.pdf

DoggoneGA

June 24th, 2009
6:14 pm

“need I go on..,.”

And my favorite: “The Mysterious Island”

GOP for Thee

June 24th, 2009
6:14 pm

Reagan used to be just brain dead, before he up and died so he’s a good match, now that he’s dead, for Palin. All he needs is a little meat on them bones and I figure that since America has by far the best health care in the whole danged universe and since Reagan is one of them rich Republicans that can afford the best, putting a new face to them old bones shouldn’t present any problem at all. And, God knows the GOP sure wants to keep that old bag of bones resurrected at least until the end times.

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
6:14 pm

NORMAL–thanks for the book suggestions. My little Russian’s daddy was asking for a reading list of English language classics.

Course, as you know, I prefer to read about my own family, “The Three Musketeers,” even if it is by one them froggie bastids who, gasp, was a gens de couleur…does that excuse me for the barrel of monkeys gaffe?

Jus’ askin’ :-)

getalife

June 24th, 2009
6:15 pm

SHOCKING: Fox News Labels Disgraced Republican Mark Sanford — A Democrat.

They do it every time.

Paul,

Does false news think you and their viewers are stupid?

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:16 pm

Be careful Josef, Sarah might think you said chocolate moose and shoot it…just warnin’…

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:18 pm

Josef, speaking of book list, how about my reading Ben Hur after Canticles?

DoggoneGA

June 24th, 2009
6:18 pm

“Does false news think you and their viewers are stupid?”

Do you really need an answer to that?

Paul

June 24th, 2009
6:18 pm

rcs

An amazing post. Really.

Ever taken a second language?

So you’re saying intellectual capacity is related to the types of books read to perfect nonnative language skills? Even when the books emphasize style, diction, grammar?

Kinda reminds me of a friend who went on a trip to Germany some years back. I asked him how it went. He related he saw a couple young American Army guys walking out of a store and one of them said ‘Damn! We’ve been in this country for forty years. You’d think they’d learn how to speak English!”

Dumb Germans, eh?

AmVet 6:04

I’m sure there’s a psychological term for it. Not sure what it is, but there’s gotta be one -

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:20 pm

Josef your Russian friend…start him out with “Tom Sawyer”…now that’s a slice of America…

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
6:20 pm

TN Gelding–In all seriousness, thanks for your reference,

But…not sure I can use it. “Curious George” is on it. :-)

Bosch

June 24th, 2009
6:20 pm

OK, I’ll just say it. I’m still high from the USA win.

It’s just so much more fun when a Republican gets busted for adultery.

And sometimes it’s a whole lotta fun to be the turd floating around in the swimming pool!

USA, USA, USA

rcs

June 24th, 2009
6:20 pm

Normal – most people read those books before they get to college.

Paul

June 24th, 2009
6:22 pm

getalife 6:15

Naw, just that we have a fun sense of humor!

[[Fox News Labels Disgraced Republican Mark Sanford — A Democrat.]]

The person doing the script probably just heard the story (politician flies to Argentina for affair) didn’t catch the name and just assumed…

Paul

June 24th, 2009
6:23 pm

Bosch

Don’t you work on Wednesdays?

And stay out of my pool!!!!!!!!!

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:24 pm

ICS Not if you study the history of liturature…but other than that, you’re correct…

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
6:25 pm

NORMAL–you right (correct) on the moose. But I can see Mexico and Bangldesh from MY front porch!

“Tom Sawyer” is on the list. BTW she’s a girl,,,!

But. of course, “Ben Hur.” Have you read Josephus? The Unmentionable has been reading it outloud of late…

rcs

June 24th, 2009
6:25 pm

TNGelding — my point is if it was Palin reading Children’s books in college, the media would have a field day with the story.

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
6:26 pm

rcs

Normal – most people read those books before they get to college.

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:26 pm

What did the P*n1$ say to the condom…cover me! I’m going in…

I'm ruled by Andy

June 24th, 2009
6:27 pm

I don’t like that icky Palin woman.

She’s got the goods of a real woman but they just sewed mine on.

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

DoggoneGA

June 24th, 2009
6:27 pm

“Normal – most people read those books before they get to college”

And a LOT of them read and reread them for all of our lives

getalife

June 24th, 2009
6:28 pm

Paul,

Come on:

Here’s a short list of Fox’s chyron hackery:

John McCain – Democrat
Joe Lieberman – Democrat
Arlen Spector – Democrat (when he was still a Republican!)
Mark Foley – Democrat

They think cons are stupid.

I did read some funny comments on RW blogs on Sanford.

Many have thrown in the towel and that is hilarious.

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
6:28 pm

rcs–oops
“Normal – most people read those books before they get to college.”

Ain’t you jus’ the optimist! :-)

NORMAL–it’s the Mendoza merlot!

Bosch

June 24th, 2009
6:28 pm

Paul,

Taking the summer off from those duties. You better watch out for me!!! [As theme from Jaws starts playing]

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:28 pm

I read Josephus when I was studying to become a Gnostic Christian…

rcs

June 24th, 2009
6:29 pm

Paul @ 6:18.
Yes, I’m learning Italian for a trip to Italy in April 2010.

TnGelding

June 24th, 2009
6:29 pm

Paul

June 24th, 2009
6:29 pm

Doggone GA

I was really struck, when two of my sons were at university, they said how many of their classmates never read anything that wasn’t a class requirement.

That rather unnerved me –

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
6:30 pm

DoggoneGA –
“And a LOT of them read and reread them for all of our lives”

And get something new out of them every time. Hit’s whut makes ‘em classics.

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
6:32 pm

NORMAL–Yeah, Josephus was the Shabbatai Zvi of his generation…CYA!

Paul

June 24th, 2009
6:32 pm

getalife

I’m not defending it. you do know tho, that many of those identifiers are of the “D-NY” type.

Just goes to show what happens when you pay the lowest wages possible to whoever wants the job –

rcs – good for you! You’ll get a much better reception. So you do see how many of the materials are quite basic and it has nothing to do with how smart the student is.

Bosch

Actually, I was thinking of the scene from Caddyshack when Bill Murray was cleaning the pool in a hazmat suit.

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:33 pm

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
6:25 pm

“Tom Sawyer” is on the list. BTW she’s a girl,,,!
——————-
Then how about “Heidi”, or “Black Beauty”….

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

June 24th, 2009
6:34 pm

Annie!

Even the French condemned the Iranian government’s “brutal” reaction to the protesters — and the French have tanks with one speed in forward and five speeds in reverse.

bwa

Paul

June 24th, 2009
6:34 pm

josef nix

I often hear Christians say how often they’ve reread the Bible and they get something new out of it each time and… wait a minute… given the current discussion I probably don’t want to go there.

Hugo Obama

June 24th, 2009
6:35 pm

Jay, please take Terance Moore, Cynthia Tucker and leave this newspaper. It is an embarassment to Atlanta.

Go home with your medicore salary and wonder why Neal Boortz, Rush Limbaugh, Matt Drudge, and Bill O’Reilly are so much more succesful and richer than you. It is because millions of people agree with them and find them interesting.

Anyone that agrees with you is living under a bridge begging for change and does not own a computer to go and read this.

You are a liberal in Georgia!!!??? That is like being a Jew in Iran. It just does not jive.

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
6:36 pm

rcs–molto bene! Dov’e studi? Hai letto l’Inferno?

I Report :-) You Whine :-(

June 24th, 2009
6:36 pm

Eye jumped the gun agin-

You see, if the president of the United States condemned election fraud in Iran, much less put in a kind word for the presidential candidate who is not crazy, it would somehow crush the spirit of the protesters when they discovered, to their horror, that the Great Satan was on their side. (It also wouldn’t do much for Al Franken in Minnesota.)

Liberals hate America, so they assume everyone else does, too.

Annie!

@@

June 24th, 2009
6:36 pm

It’s interesting to note that Mark Sanford’s affair has taken precedence over what’s going on in Iran. Liberals are a fickle bunch.

Government brutality at its worst ever according to the twitter messages out of Iran.

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:37 pm

DoggoneGA

June 24th, 2009
6:27 pm
“Normal – most people read those books before they get to college”

And a LOT of them read and reread them for all of our lives
—————————
DOGGONE: It’s true. I have a collection for my grandkids, but I must have re-read them many times…They are great fun..

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:39 pm

@@: Yeah, we can’t do much about Iran but watch, wait, and pray…but while we’re watchin’, waitin’ and prayin’ it’s fun to roll a Republican…don’t cha think?…Just passin’ time…

@@

June 24th, 2009
6:40 pm

It was a far cry from the massive demonstrations of last week. Today, just a few hundred protesters converged on Baharestan Square, opposite the Iranian Parliament, and they were brutally repulsed.

It was an exercise in courageous futility, not a contest. Thousands of riot police and militiamen flooded the area. They used teargas, batons and overwhelming force. Helicopters hovered overhead. Nobody was allowed to stop or to gather, let alone exercise their constitutional right to protest.

A video clip posted on YouTube showed young men and women, their faces concealed behind bandanas, throwing stones by a burning barricade and chanting “Death to the Dictator”.

Twitter was flooded with lurid messages. “They pull away the dead — like factory — no human can do this,” said one. “They catch people with mobile — so many killed today — so many injured,” said another. “In Baharestan we saw militia with axe chopping ppl like meat — blood everywhere,” said a third.

Saeed Mortazavi, an Iranian prosecutor notorious for his abuse of prisoners, has been put in charge of arresting and investigating dissidents.

Mr Mortazavi has a long record of involvement in cases of torture, illegal detention and extracting false confessions, Human Rights Watch said. “The leading role of Saeed Mortazavi in the cracksdown of Tehran should set off alarm bells,” it said.

getalife

June 24th, 2009
6:40 pm

“In the e-mails, Sanford made reference to his lover’s “gentle kisses,” “the curve of you hips” and “the erotic beauty of you holding yourself (or two magnificent parts of yourself) in the faded glow of the night’s light.” Sanford’s office on Wednesday did not dispute the authenticity of the e-mails”

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/70630.html

Geez.

Normal

June 24th, 2009
6:41 pm

Whiner, No. Really. Really…Bless your heart…

josef nix

June 24th, 2009
6:41 pm

PAUL–I read the Bible regularly. I won’t ever forget back Little One was about nine, she came into my study where I was looking up a reference and, somewhat surprized, said “you’re reading the Bible?” When I told my mama she said, “well, be glad she was surprised. That means you’re not making a show of it.”

rcs

June 24th, 2009
6:42 pm

thanks Paul, your point is well taken.

Bosch

June 24th, 2009
6:42 pm

But the BIGGEST news of the day is going pretty much unnoticed – even though CNN did mention it briefly.

Paul

June 24th, 2009
6:43 pm

@@

Well, let’s see what all this means for the President’s policy of engagement.

I’m thinking it won’t look much different than Pres Bush’s.

getalife

Don’t these dolts realize that emails are forever and for everywhere?

DoggoneGA

June 24th, 2009
6:43 pm

“I have a collection for my grandkids, but I must have re-read them many times…They are great fun”

Yes, they are…to say nothing of the beauty of the language. I’ve read some so many times I just about have them memorized, but I still reread them now and then.

@@

June 24th, 2009
6:44 pm

Normal:

it’s fun to roll a Republican…don’t cha think?

Not when there are children involved, NO!

I’ve never taken pleasure in that sort of attack regardless of party.