Something wicked this way comes….
“A shadow and a threat has been growing in my mind. Something draws near, I can feel it.”
— Legolas, in “Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring”
“The Obama administration for the first time has transferred a Guantanamo Bay detainee into the United States, flying the suspect to New York early today to face federal charges in the 1998 East Africa embassy bombings.
U.S. marshals took custody of Ahmed Ghailani, a Tanzanian, at the military prison in Cuba and moved him to the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, officials said. He is expected to appear in federal court later today.
Ghailani faces multiple charges and, if convicted, could face the death penalty for his role in the bombing of U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, which killed 224 people, including 12 Americans….
The decision to move Ghailani lays down an important marker for the administration, which wants to shut the military prison but has faced congressional resistance to the transfer of any Guantanamo inmates into the United States for resettlement, trial or further detention. A conference committee of Senate and House members of the Defense Appropriations committee has been considering language that would restrict the administration’s ability to move detainees out of Guantanamo without a comprehensive plan for where to place them. Lawmakers also want assurance that taking detainees into the United States presents no risk to the country’s national security.”
We’ve seen the movie; we know what happens next:
Freed of the Magic Bubble of Guantanamo, where his al Qaida superpowers were suppressed by vast amounts of Kryptonite secretly embedded into the concrete, the supervillain Ahmed Ghailani will now use his X-ray vision to melt the puny steel bars confining him in prison.
Then, using the dreaded Tanzanian Mind Meld on his guards, he will convert them to jihadists eager to wreak vengeance on the helpless American mainland. The resulting spree of violence and terrorism will end only with the intervention of SuperDick Cheney, who will shoot Ghailani in the face.
Or not.
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ByteMe
June 9th, 2009
12:21 pm
You forgot the part where SuperDick wires Ghailani’s testicals to the nearest high power lines and says he’s just tickling him so it can’t be torture.
I Rule You :-)/ You Whine :-(
June 9th, 2009
12:27 pm
Or he could get himself a nice, cushy day job preaching Jihad to the inmates in some US prison.
Inmates who have a release date.
duh
S GA dem
June 9th, 2009
12:27 pm
Be afraid. Be very afraid. With this news, gun sales in Gwinnett will skyrocket.
Mrs. Godzilla
June 9th, 2009
12:28 pm
Thanks Alot Jay!
Now I’m going to have to spend my afternoon coaxing conservatives out from under their desks!
Mrs. Godzilla
June 9th, 2009
12:29 pm
Yep, you get a whole lot of time to preach in a super max…..
teeheeeheeeheee
knucklehead
Shawny
June 9th, 2009
12:31 pm
no, we know how it will play out. He will be swiftly declared guilty by a jury. He will be sentanced to die by lethal injection. Then he will spend years on death row as legal idiots appeal his case and human rights activists protest his conviction, all the while wasting taxpayer dollars and our oxygen.
Doggone/GA
June 9th, 2009
12:33 pm
Enter your comments here
Copyleft
June 9th, 2009
12:33 pm
Oh no! A suspect has been transferred from one prison to another. We’re doomed!
Panic, people! PANIC! IT’S THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!
ty webb
June 9th, 2009
12:33 pm
So the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan is a supermax?
Copyleft
June 9th, 2009
12:34 pm
Shawny: He’ll be found guilty? Wouldn’t that require some sort of “evidence” and “due process”? I thought America was past all that sort of nonsense… I could’ve sworn Bush said something about that….
Doggone/GA
June 9th, 2009
12:35 pm
“Enter your comments here”
Oops!
TnGelding
June 9th, 2009
12:36 pm
Justice will be quick, if the evidence warrants it.
Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
June 9th, 2009
12:37 pm
Typical liberal misdirection, the issue is not whether Supermax or some similar prison could contain these miscreants. Of course an American prison can hold one of these g-dless ignorami. Rather, the issue at hand is the safety of the guards, their families, and the general populace as cells plot to intimidate/hurt the guards and their families or attack/bomb the prisons themselves. Why bring that pox unto ourselves, just doen’t make sense.
I guess what Jay is saying is that if we make nice, move them out of gitmo, and keep that mean ol’ Dick away, then terror cells will not longer have any reason to plot against us or inflict damage upon us.
Pretty easy for the chickenhawk liberal who will be far away from the action to say, harder for those who care to treat those on the firing line well.
Shawny
June 9th, 2009
12:41 pm
no, I am predicting that he will be found guilty with the appropriate amount of evidence to support that conclusion.
Reebok
June 9th, 2009
12:42 pm
Gee, why do we need trials and due process at all? It’s safe to assume that anybody in any prison for any reason is guilty of SOMETHING…especially if they wear funny clothes and have those weird-a$$ names and come from countries where people don’t even have the decency to speak American. Just hold a news conference (on FOX, the only network that doesn’t hate America), declare them all guilty, and leave them to rot in Gitmo.
Mrs. Godzilla
June 9th, 2009
12:42 pm
Byll
Got Paranoia? Sounds like it.
Being called a chickenhawk by a right winger is a real big funny.
Ty
Nope, but he would not be permanently hosed there now would he?
Silly, silly, silly
Mrs. Godzilla
June 9th, 2009
12:43 pm
housed housed…..
ty webb
June 9th, 2009
12:44 pm
Mrs. G,
So you know how long he’ll be there?
Doggone/GA
June 9th, 2009
12:45 pm
“Why bring that pox unto ourselves, just doen’t make sense.”
Then why do we ALREADY have Al Qaeda terrorists in prisons on US soil? Three that I can think of just off-hand. Aren’t the guards and their families in danger from THEM too?
Doggone/GA
June 9th, 2009
12:48 pm
The whole point of the “Gitmo controversy” – in case some haven’t noticed – is NOT where the suspects are being kept. It’s WHY they are STILL there without charges, without trials. We condemn other countries for doing that very same thing – holding people indefinitely – with no charges, and no trials.
As long as they are there, WE are not better then the countries we condemn. But we ARE better, and we need to show it by giving them fair trials and a chance for a fair defense.
RW-(the original)
June 9th, 2009
12:51 pm
1998 bombings of American properties by Islamic terrorists??? How could that be when the whole world loved us back then and the evils of BushCheney had not yet begun to “create” these goons?
BDAtlanta
June 9th, 2009
12:52 pm
hehe snort snort
Get yer guns and pull the shades in the trailer, ma!
Normal
June 9th, 2009
12:54 pm
Regardless of willy Billy’s fears, they will finally be getting their “Due Process” and their day in court. Just the way it is supposed to happen in this country.
ty webb
June 9th, 2009
12:55 pm
RW,
great point!
I Rule You :-)/ You Whine :-(
June 9th, 2009
12:56 pm
Another U.S. military official put it, “people who would chew through a hydraulic cable to bring a C-17 down.”
No, it’s not like they are insane or wanna die or anything.
Little Pinko Pets, they are.
Mrs. Godzilla
June 9th, 2009
12:56 pm
No TY,
But I’m sure that a manly man like you will volunteer to help guard the big bad guy. OOOOOOOH TYYYYYYYY!
It’s about a 12 hour ride in your pick up, fill the gun rack and take off! Show us you’re not a chickenhawk.
Giddy yup.
BDAtlanta
June 9th, 2009
12:56 pm
Wild Bill,
Do you think these guys are super killers? You think these guys are trained by the green berets, navy seals, and Houdini?
You’ve been watching too many hollywood movies, my friend!
BDAtlanta
June 9th, 2009
12:59 pm
If they aren’t American citizens then they have no civil rights so they can be put to work building that high speed rail as discussed in the previous thread.
Mrs. Godzilla
June 9th, 2009
1:00 pm
Actually RW’s point is rather dull.
A couple hundred/thousand Islamic terrorists are only the whole world
to the super mega paranoid.
(are you listening while you are cowering under your desks?)….
Wasn’t in 1998 either.
Doggone/GA
June 9th, 2009
1:00 pm
“If they aren’t American citizens then they have no civil rights”
Yes, they do. Our constitution provides protection for “all men” – not “all citizens”
Tall
June 9th, 2009
1:01 pm
This is so sad. I agree with most of the posters here – this situation never should have happened in the first place. The gentlemen that are incarcerated at Gitmo are not your garden variety sociopaths – they’re much worse. They are Islamic terrorists seeking to destroy your country and kill each of you. Being that they were captured in battle against U.S. armed personnel, makes them enemy combatants not elegible for U.S. habeus corpus. They do not belong on U.S. soil in Federal prisons, no matter how secure. If any of you forgot, only one country was willing to take one of these gentlemen off of our hands. Their own countries don’t want them back. Except maybe the Chinese – and they will execute them. Which is what sould have been done along time ago. Why is this so hard for any of you to understand?
Mrs. Godzilla
June 9th, 2009
1:05 pm
All this nervous chatter by the frightened right oputs me in mind of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKss2pBYQ6Y
Now you righties go on and tell us all the reasons the finest Nation in the world can’t handle a few criminals.
Let’s call it your apology tour.
You’re sorry you are so afraid yourselves…..maybe we can change the National Anthem…
….the land of the Free and the home of the panty waists….
Redneck Convert
June 9th, 2009
1:05 pm
Well, this trial needs to get over quick so we can stick the needle to this Terrist. I say we hook his Tender Parts up to a wire from a big battery and turn the juice on every time he’s asked a question.
“Did you bomb that embassy?” YEEEEEEEP.
Anyhow, good thing I got the missus that Glock. She’s keeping the trailer door dead-bolted till this guy is shot full of poison and is deader than 3 o’clock in the morning. We got enough to worry about as it is, what with the gays marrying and this Obama running us broke.
Have a good p.m. everybody.
ty webb
June 9th, 2009
1:06 pm
Mrs. G,
I was just asking a question. Figured you’d know. You seem to have all the answers. Personally, I don’t have much of a problem keeping them in US prisons. I also wouldn’t mind if many ended up in general population. Seems like many prisoners do have some ethics and they have ways of passing out justice(think about what happens to child molesters in prison). Of course, the downside would be that things would be done to them that would make Gitmo look like disneyland, so your side would have more to cry about.
Mrs. Godzilla
June 9th, 2009
1:09 pm
ty
I don’t have all the answers. However I will never stop seeking them.
It’s a good thing.
And of course your side approves of prison rape, eh?
Bosch
June 9th, 2009
1:09 pm
S GA Dem,
You’re on a roll! I gave you the best comment of the day award downstairs, and then this beauty:
“With this news, gun sales in Gwinnett will skyrocket”
Oh, yes – the terrists are now on the mainland! Everybody grab yer gun!!!
By the prickling of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes. [Que/Cue? Crazy witch laugh]
DB, Gwinnettian
June 9th, 2009
1:09 pm
“If they aren’t American citizens then they have no civil rights”
I’d be willing to waive the rights of people who post stupid stuff like that.
Doggone/GA
June 9th, 2009
1:09 pm
“The gentlemen that are incarcerated at Gitmo are not your garden variety sociopaths – they’re much worse. They are Islamic terrorists seeking to destroy your country and kill each of you.”
But we don’t know that, do we? Since no evidence against them has ever been presented, we only have the governments word for that. And since well over 600 have been RELEASED already, we can judge how far to trust that “word”, can’t we?
” Being that they were captured in battle against U.S. armed personnel, makes them enemy combatants not elegible for U.S. habeus corpus. ”
But not all of them were. A lot of them were “delivered” to the US by Afghan warlords. For all we know different, they might just be troublemakes TO those warlords, who took a quick easy way to get rid of them.
“They do not belong on U.S. soil in Federal prisons, no matter how secure.”
Yes, they do. They are uncharged prisoners – their connection to a battel situation is unproven, and they are uncharged and untried. They deserve the rights granted to ALL by our Constitution and court systems. Try them, and if they are guilty give the the proper punishment. But don’t let them languish for years in a gulag.
” If any of you forgot, only one country was willing to take one of these gentlemen off of our hands.”
Why should they? WE have them, WE are stuck with them, WE need to charge and try them or free them if there are no valid charges. They are not the responsibility of any other country.
“Their own countries don’t want them back.”
You know that for a fact, do you?
“Except maybe the Chinese – and they will execute them. ”
This only applies to the Uighers – who have been absolved of ANY ill intent against the US. See above about the warlords. We have no charges against them, AT ALL, but we can’t send them back to be executed and the fearfull fools in the USA won’t “allow” them to be resettled here. We took them, we’re stuck with them.
“Which is what sould have been done along time ago. Why is this so hard for any of you to understand?”
It’s just really, really hard for some of us to understand executing people for unproven “crimes” … with no proof and not trial. Just sort of sits wrong, you know.
DB, Gwinnettian
June 9th, 2009
1:10 pm
And of course your side approves of prison rape, eh?
I think that was just Tuesday Vandy Kamps.
TnGelding
June 9th, 2009
1:10 pm
BDAtlanta
June 9th, 2009
12:56 pm
The Pentagon underestimated them, too.
Gandalf, the White! (!)
June 9th, 2009
1:10 pm
“Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.”"
ty webb
June 9th, 2009
1:13 pm
Mrs G.,
yeah, you can call me heartless, but I support prison rape of any convicted child rapist or molester. Actually I would consider that to be getting off easy, no pun intended.
N.J,
June 9th, 2009
1:13 pm
All of the talk about “EXPORTING” democracy by Republicans are DOOMED to failure if we do not let our “democratic” judicial system apply to these people at Guantanamo.
Bush and Republicans ennobled the terrorist by this “war on terrorism” no matter how he defined their combat status. There are those who will always see them as “freedom fighters” and “nationalist insurgencies” and see the United States as the flip side of the same coin with the Soviet Union.
Expecially if we create our own little “gulags” that apply only to those who attacked us from the outside. If our political system cannaot handle international criminals in the same way that they handle domestic ones, our system is useless. We prove it works in all circumstances and if we dont, we prove it is USELESS to their’s
Gandalf, the White! (!)
June 9th, 2009
1:14 pm
My neighborhood already has terrorist in it, they came from New Orleans. 4 teen boys were arrested for breaking into cars. Don’t worry though, our “watch” is on the lookout. My little fiefdom in Gwinnesia is safe from future strikes.
‘It’ll take money, guns and lawyers, to get them out next time!” PARAPHRASE OF ZEVON
“Happiness is a warm gun, bang bang, shoot shoot!” Lennon-McCartney
TnGelding
June 9th, 2009
1:15 pm
Reebok
June 9th, 2009
12:42 pm
It ain’t the American way.
All guilty of something?
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7778310&page=1
N.J,
June 9th, 2009
1:17 pm
This applies especially, because the United States has shown rather a double standard when it comes to terrorism. Those who wanted to found the state of Israel, used terror. A lot of it. They did NOT limit it to the Middle East, but in fact took it outside of the Middle East and attacked in Europe and in Britain proper. They attacked what was “The World’s Greatest Empire” at the time, and they did not merely strike at the periphery of that empire, but at its heart. And both the world, and the United States, rewarded that terrorism and gave the terrorist what they wanted. Their own state.
Bosch
June 9th, 2009
1:17 pm
Enter your comments here
Bosch
June 9th, 2009
1:18 pm
Criminey! I hate it when that what happened at 1:17 happens.
Gandalf, the White! (!)
June 9th, 2009
1:19 pm
DOGGONE MAKIN UP LAWS AGAIN LIKE SOME STUPID REDNECK! WAIT, HE IS! l LIKED YOUR FIRST POST BEST!
Bosch
June 9th, 2009
1:19 pm
ty,
Gross – can you can Mrs. G., hold up on the prison rape talk?