Obama, Netanyahu in standoff over settlements

President Obama is being more explicit and forthright with Israel than any U.S. president in decades. As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton put it the other day:

“He wants to see a stop to settlements — not some settlements, not outposts, not ‘natural growth’ exceptions. We think it is in the best interests [of the peace process] that settlement expansion cease. That is our position. That is what we have communicated very clearly. … And we intend to press that point.”

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, for the moment at least, is rejecting that pressure, setting up an interesting test of strength and will. Obama and Netanyahu will both pay a political cost at home for their positions, and given the clear line Obama has drawn, one of the two will be forced to give in. If Obama prevails, as I suspect he will, he will then have earned credibility to force similar concessions from the Arab/Palestinian side.

I’m still far from optimistic, but we’ll see. At the very least Obama is trying to shake both sides out of the status quo.

In the meantime, I’ve pulled some responses to the standoff as posted in the comments section of Haaretz, an Israeli English-language newspaper.

Israel should rebuff this preposterous American intervention. The so-called West Bank`s status – and this land is patently part of the original Jewish homeland, where Jews have actually lived for many centuries long before any Arabs ever arrived there – is actually in the present that of land won fairly by Israel in war. To suggest that Jews cannot build there wherever they choose to do so – and they are certainly not going to stop having babies! – is blatant anti-Jewish apartheid.

Doesn`t the US know that these settlers don`t need permission from anyone? For crying out loud! This particular group of settlers are not like other settlers. These settlers are special. S-P-E-C-I-A-L! Get it? They get permission directly from…you know, some really big-time Enchillada, who said, way back when, that they could just, you know, take any stuff they want, you know, whenever they feel like it. So just shut up about it.

(E)rin go Brah! Israel go Brah! Go Israel! Do not retreat one inch, move more settlements into the WB which rightly was given to you by the League of nations and illegaly taken away by Britain before WW 2. Regardless of then. now you are there. hold the land. Hold it or you will be reduced to a state worse than the Indian reservations in the US. The arabs have multi millions of acres to settle their countryme(n). the US government has never solved any problems between nations unless it physically conquered and occupied, or bombed the poor state into oblivion. That will never happen to Israel. Just call the US bluff and persevere. It will huff and puff itself into a huge gas balloon and float away.
The US is not threatened by Iranian Nukes, neither by N. Korean nukes. They threaten only the US clients. and the only clients that the US cares about are ones with Oil and cheap labor. Israel doesn`t fit that. IIsrael will never be protected by the US. It has to take care of itself

Settlement building is a deliberate ploy to bury a 2-state solution under concrete. Unlike his predecessors, Obama not only sees that but he`s prepared to act in order to prevent it. If Bibi and co. do not stop settlement building I, for one, would encourage the US to suspend all financial, military and political support to my country.

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BDAtlanta

May 29th, 2009
7:25 am

How many billions do we send Israel each year and why? If they can’t make it as their own country then they should annul the country.

DB, Gwinnettian

May 29th, 2009
7:30 am

This particular group of settlers are not like other settlers. These settlers are special. S-P-E-C-I-A-L! Get it? They get permission directly from…you know, some really big-time Enchillada

Wow. That’s some good Haaretz-snarkin’, that is.

Well, get out the popcorn, and see how many End Timers get upset about what they perceive to be Jay hatin’ on Israel.

I Rule You :-)/ You Whine :-(

May 29th, 2009
7:37 am

The lib chose appeasement, gee, isn’t that a surprise?

Mrs. Godzilla

May 29th, 2009
7:44 am

I’m not to worried…..I read this last week.

“21 May 09 | Ha’aretz and PTV

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak have agreed on a plan to evacuate illegal outposts in the West Bank, mainly those located on Palestinian land, within weeks, Defense Ministry sources told Haaretz Wednesday.”

Even a baby step is welcome.

RW-(the original)

May 29th, 2009
7:45 am

You’ve actually started using the comment sections to joust against Jay B? You know Bill O’Reilly did that to blast Hot Air just the other day? Maybe it’s the new alternative to writing thoughtful analysis since anybody can look reasonable matched against a cherry picked set of user comments. I see you fooled DB though so maybe it works. Perhaps I should start going to the comment section of the Huff and Puff to start “proving” my points, but since I’m not a journalist I prefer to think for myself.

In any case, anyone that watched Bebe and Barack in their face to face meeting knows that our President looked like a third grader facing his first trip to the principle’s office so claiming he has some upper hand that impressed the Arab/Palestinian population is merely wishful thinking on your part.

It’s an early day in the forest so I’ll see y’all upstairs for Led Zeppelin night in the traveling music.

Later!

Mrs. Godzilla

May 29th, 2009
7:53 am

RW

I could not disagree more with your description of President Obama during his talks with Mr. Netanyahu. I suspect after years of
swash and swagger you are unable to recognize diplomacy, subtle strength
and grace.

DB, Gwinnettian

May 29th, 2009
7:56 am

I see you fooled DB though so maybe it works.

RW, are you just bored, or do you have a point to make?

I Rule You :-)/ You Whine :-(

May 29th, 2009
8:01 am

The American president argued forcefully, but the Israeli PM made it quite clear that his country was not going to cease all new settlement construction nor acquiesce to U.S. veto power with respect to an Israeli preemptive attack on Iran’s nuclear weapon development.

Obama was still reeling from Bibi’s private pounding when their press conference began. The American leader rambled on with strained grace, not once looking at his guest. Netanyahu, for his part, sat looking directly at Obama with the palms of his hands on his knees in a ready position, as if he were about to enter one of those caged fighting bouts. This had been something much more than a “frank” meeting.

I’m taking requests now, RW, I’m thinking of Ten Years Gone or maybe The Ocean, but I am open.

Turd Fergusen

May 29th, 2009
8:02 am

More BS from the Obama administration. Jay would be happy if Israel were done away with.

DB, Gwinnettian

May 29th, 2009
8:02 am

Obama was still reeling from Bibi’s private pounding

But, enough about Andy’s closeted fantasies.

Ray

May 29th, 2009
8:06 am

Abandon the Jewish state? Cut off aid funds to Israel? How naive can you get. The state of Israel is 48 miles wide, surrounded by mountains on three sides, the sea on the other. They are and always have been fighting for their very survival against an enemy who is funded by large sums of money from their oil revenue…. money and resupply of their armed forces is not a problem. We looked the other way not long ago and lost 6M European Jews. Iran will send an atomic warhead to destroy Israel if given half a chance. Net knows this and is very tired of stale rhetoric and taking orders from others. Israel will silence Iran’s nuclear threat if no one else does. Survival, plain and simple.

Paul

May 29th, 2009
8:12 am

[[If Obama prevails, as I suspect he will, he will then have earned credibility to force similar concessions from the Arab/Palestinian side.]]

We’ll see. There has been success with Egypt/Israel. Also Jordan/Israel. But what concessions from the Palestinian side will be forthcoming? A recognition of Israel’s right to exist? The nonacceptance of that means, obviously, that Israel has no right to exist, so there is nothing wrong with removing the entity known as “Israel.”

How can one have a situation we see as ‘peace’ (nonhostile coexistence between two states?) if one state does not even think the other has a right to be?

I hope this isn’t process for process sake, but as you pointed out, the status quo isn’t working very well. Maybe this initial is just performance for the home crowd and something small will occur. We’ll see.

On a related note, not to do the Pres Bush comparison, but I’m always interested why, when Bush was condemned for acting a certain way, Pres Obama is praised? Shouldn’t the Left be critical of Obama for not working with our allies in a concerted effort and not taking this to the UN? Simplistic, maybe, but that was the regular refrain. Or what about the “here’s the bully cowboy imposing America’s will on others” line? That one has more applicability – it’s America who knows best.

Ah well…

Paul

May 29th, 2009
8:15 am

G’morning, DB, Gwinnettian

From last night: I pretty much agree with the view of how to evaluate politicians during primaries. I’ll offer that the fact they hedge so much illustrates the reality of the influence of the hardcore party activists and money on the primaries.

And I am okay with Pres Obama’s ‘reevaluations.’ Sure beats the alternatives. Rather gives credence to ‘lifetime learning,’ eh?

mike

May 29th, 2009
8:29 am

Nothing new about this. As the NY Times board pointed out in 2005, Bush also demanded that Israel stop settlement expansion.

“We were encouraged to see President Bush use Mr. Abbas’s trip to Washington this week to ratchet up pressure on both the Israelis and the Palestinians. As he has before, Mr. Bush demanded that Israel remove illegal settlements and stop settlement expansion in the West Bank. ”

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/22/opinion/22sat1.html

Obama is not the only President of the past five years to try to “shake both sides out of the status quo.”

I Rule You :-)/ You Whine :-(

May 29th, 2009
8:33 am

Peggy Noonan has gone completely off the deep end-

They (the Clintons) had pent-up energy after 12 years of Republican rule, and they believed their own propaganda that Republicans were wicked. They were oafish: One dragooned a government helicopter to go play golf. President Obama’s staff is far less entertaining. They’re smooth, impeccable, sophisticated, like the boss.

They buzzed the site of the World Trade Center with a 747 for love of God.

And to prove her stupid, whiny pinko point, as RW has already shown to be a typical liberal propaganda ploy, they have to scour the comment section of Right Wing blogs, I guess because real world evidence of their lying straw men must be pretty scarce-

The base is plenty excited already, as you know if you’ve ever read a comment thread on a conservative blog. Comment-thread conservatives, like their mirror-image warriors on the left (”Worst person in the woooorrrlllddd!”) are perpetually agitated, permanently enraged.

Apparently, anything more than lying quietly in the path of the socialist steam roller is being “agitated and enraged.”

BS.

RW-(the original)

May 29th, 2009
8:33 am

Wow. That’s some good Haaretz-snarkin’, that is.

Since it was a user comment that you ascribed to Haaretz, DB, Jay B got what he wanted. Some stooge to take the user comment and make it the paper’s position.

Point, game, set, and match.

Mrs. G,

I’m glad to know that when two parties are discussing something that you believe the one looking at his shoes and drooling is the one in control. It explains a lot. Really!

Bye Y’all

mike

May 29th, 2009
8:43 am

Jay’s progression of figures to analyze sinks lower and lower

He used to report on the comments of political leaders.

Then he started reporting on pundits.

Then he started reporting on bloggers.

Now he is reporting on the commenters on blogs.

What is the point? Who cares what partisan blogs have to say, let alone the comments posted on them? Jay has this huge microphone and he uses it to amplify the most extreme voices in the conversation. You would think that a major newspaper would be providing sober analysis as a counterpoint to all of the angry opinions out on the web. Not at the AJC.

@@

May 29th, 2009
8:53 am

Both sides, jay?

No mention of the man in the middle (Hamas)?

Obama said he would talk about his ideas for Israeli-Palestinian peace in the June 4 address but brushed aside speculation that he would unveil a new peace initiative.

During the campaign, that same Israeli english-language newspaper was saying this:

At the end of the day it is hard to find differences in the promises being made by the candidates that have survived in the race – Clinton, McCain and Obama – regarding the peace process. All of them want involvement, all are opposed to Hamas, all are in favor of a Palestinian state and against Palestinian terrorism, all are in favor of security for Israel and against the settlement construction. All are positioning themselves exactly where the Bush administration now stands. As such there are only two options: Either they all agree that Bush has got it just right – or his position is only what the broad political consensus dictates.

As is always the case, I think Obama’s and Bibi’s decisions will have a lot to do with polls:

In any event, last week it became apparent that half of Jewish Democrats support Obama, the candidate perceived as “leftist,” and the other half Clinton, the more “hawkish” of the two. The numbers are quite a contrast when compared with Israeli Jews, who, according to a poll commissioned by the “Keevoon” institute, prefer the familiar Clinton (61 percent) over the fresh-faced Obama (12 percent).

AmVet

May 29th, 2009
8:54 am

One thing most of us here at JB’s have in common is that we are not laodicean.

(CNN) — Thirteen-year-old Kavya Shivashankar of Olathe, Kansas, spelled “laodicean,” Thursday night to take top honors in the 82nd annual Scripps National Spelling Bee.

(Rock, Chalk, Jayhawk!)

The eighth-grader won $40,000 in cash and prizes for nailing the final word. Pronounced lay-odd-uh-see-an, the word means lukewarm or indifferent, particularly in matters of politics or religion.

Enjoy your day, all.

Off to pay for the occupation(s). And more corporate welfare. And Israel. And…

Doggone/GA

May 29th, 2009
8:54 am

“How many billions do we send Israel each year and why?”

My thoughts exactly. Lay it down hard and fast: for every house in a settlement they lose a million dollars. Bet those settlements would disappear FAST!

Copyleft

May 29th, 2009
9:02 am

On this one, I agree with BDAtlanta: “How many billions do we send Israel each year and why? If they can’t make it as their own country then they should annul the country.”

Geez, sometimes these Israelis act like the land is theirs by divine fiat, as though God Himself had given it to them by decree.

He didn’t. The UN did.

DJ SanDiego

May 29th, 2009
9:05 am

This is not the crowd for sermons…..if cast lead is your version of a sixty one year success story….Headline should read,”Ingredients to create Anti-Semite,”…..Its not the weapons training in the catskills,it wont be the US military that spares you the humiliation of life in Gaza its the,”Board of Health,” imagine the stench of raw sewerage,water in a bottle you wouldnt kickaway with your shoes on….standing for days to get near a market or medical facility….obviously i dont think of you as American patriots could you blame me?

Mrs. Godzilla

May 29th, 2009
9:05 am

RW

RW

You said “I’m glad to know that when two parties are discussing something that you believe the one looking at his shoes and drooling is the one in control. It explains a lot. Really!”

I never said Bebe was in control you silly old goat!

DB, Gwinnettian

May 29th, 2009
9:09 am

RW, really, that’s where you were going? You’re imagining that I don’t know from comments on the Intertubes? And that Jay’s being willfully deceptive even though he wrote “I’ve pulled some responses to the standoff as posted in the comments section?”

Here, I’ll revise my comment:

“That’s some good snark Haaretz saw fit to make available to you Jay, which of course does not reflect this paper’s official editorial position or nothin’ and shame on you for allowing anyone to think that it might!”

…and you call me a net nanny? Crikey.

DB, Gwinnettian

May 29th, 2009
9:10 am

Now he is reporting on the commenters on blogs.

He’s just like Rush Limbaugh! Oh the humanity and all of Mike’s pearls!

Paul

May 29th, 2009
9:12 am

DB, Gwinnettian

May 29th, 2009
9:13 am

Hi, Paul–I finally got around to seeing and replying to your geniuser (I tells ya!) remarks. Here is handy linkee.

George American

May 29th, 2009
9:13 am

If it was not for the Jewish controlled media this issue would not even make the paper.

And we should care about Israel or Palestine,because…?

Let them solve there own land-grab and genocide problems.

DB, Gwinnettian

May 29th, 2009
9:14 am

Crikey?

Followed up by “she’s a beauty!” if you were the late Steve Irwin.

Mrs. Godzilla

May 29th, 2009
9:17 am

Jewish Controlled Media……? WOW.

@@

May 29th, 2009
9:18 am

OFF-TOPIC…

Two things are sure to happen this summer: The Supreme Court will overturn Sotomayor’s panel’s ruling. And, barring some huge hidden scandal, Sotomayor will be elevated to that same Supreme Court.

What should a principled conservative do? Use the upcoming hearings not to deny her the seat, but to illuminate her views. No magazine gossip from anonymous court clerks. No “temperament” insinuations. Nothing ad hominem. The argument should be elevated, respectful and entirely about judicial philosophy.

On the Ricci case. And on her statements about the inherent differences between groups, and the superior wisdom she believes her Latina physiology, culture and background grant her over a white male judge. They perfectly reflect the Democrats’ enthrallment with identity politics, which assigns free citizens to ethnic and racial groups possessing a hierarchy of wisdom and entitled to a hierarchy of claims upon society.

When the hearings begin, Republicans should call Frank Ricci as their first witness. Democrats want justice rooted in empathy? Let Ricci tell his story and let the American people judge whether his promotion should have been denied because of his skin color in a procedure Sotomayor joined in calling “facially race-neutral.”

When it comes to strategy, me and Krauthammer think alike — it’s the psychology thing. Thanks to the conservative pundits, the stage has been set, the tickets sold. Americans competing for jobs in a difficult market will be watching and wondering “Why dat is?”

RealityKing

May 29th, 2009
9:21 am

For more insight into this and Jay’s next column visit his source, http://www.whitehouse.gov.

DB, Gwinnettian

May 29th, 2009
9:21 am

Jewish Controlled Media……? WOW.

Und ze BANKS! jawohl!

Seriously, coming from our George, this surprises why?

Donovan

May 29th, 2009
9:22 am

The long and short of it is that if Obama says Isreal must concede to the Palestinians then Bookman says that Isreal must concede to the Palestinians. Our little goose-stepper can’t see the forest for the trees in his devotion to the Chosen One. Isreal has legal and historical rights to the land it shares with the Palistinians. Islam and its terrorist founder, Mohammed, hijacked such territories from the Jews centuries ago. There will never be peace between Muslims and Jews as long as Islam is alive and well. America supports the only democracy in that part of the world and rightfully it should. I find it annoying that everyone else thinks that we should be solely responsible for bringing peace to the table. We tried with Arafat and he and his ilk replied with suicidal terrorism. Now we have an ideological liberal president demanding Isreal to bend over again. For all you robotic followers of Obama I would suggest you go out and buy one of Netanyahu’s books and find out what the real score is.

RealityKing

May 29th, 2009
9:22 am

Predefined briefs available when logging in as a ‘journalist’..

Paul

May 29th, 2009
9:23 am

Steve Irwin? I was thinking of the grandpa on the Real McCoys….

RealityKing

May 29th, 2009
9:26 am

The Justice Department charged three members of the New Black Panther Party with voter intimidation, including threatening Philadelphia voters with ‘a deadly weapon’ — now, it’s dropped the charges, by Obama. Not that there’s anything wrong with that..

Doggone/GA

May 29th, 2009
9:26 am

“Islam and its terrorist founder, Mohammed, hijacked such territories from the Jews centuries ago”

Maybe God was using Islam believers to punish the Jews for transgressions by taking away what was given to them. Ever thought of that? They might be going against the will of God is trying to take it back.

Paul

May 29th, 2009
9:26 am

Is the Jewish Controlled Media part of the Vast RightWing Conspiracy, which has a partnership with Conservative Radio and The Liberal Media?

@@

“why dat is?”

Huh?

RealityKing

May 29th, 2009
9:30 am

North Korea, a close alley of Iran, increased tensions as it conducts yet another missile test, this time reportedly firing off new weapon capable of hitting targets in the south.

Iran fires ballistic missile capable of hitting Isreal and Europe.

Meanwhile…, Obama man, Jay, continues the liberal talking briefs.

Mrs. Godzilla

May 29th, 2009
9:31 am

“Washington — For the first time in America’s decades of jousting with Israel over West Bank settlements, an American president seems to have succeeded in isolating the settlements issue and disconnecting it from other elements of support for Israel.

It is a disentanglement now seen most clearly in Congress, which in the past served as Israel’s stronghold against administration pressure on the issue. But when Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu came to Capitol Hill for a May 18 meeting after being pressed by President Obama to freeze the expansion of West Bank settlements, he was “stunned,” Netanyahu aides said, to hear what seemed like a well-coordinated attack against his stand on settlements. The criticism came from congressional leaders, key lawmakers dealing with foreign relations and even from a group of Jewish members.”

More here:

http://forward.com/articles/106686/

DB, Gwinnettian

May 29th, 2009
9:31 am

For more insight into this and RealityKing’s next comment visit his source,
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

May 29th, 2009
9:32 am

This is yet another good example of how truly limited President Obama’s intellect is.

These two sides have a conflict that has raged for thousands of years and will not be resolved quickly. Frankly, I watched the scene of Yasir Arafat’s funeral and have traveled to the holy land many times. It is clear that the Israeli’s are a very advanced society and the Arabs, well certainly an not advanced society, maybe on their best day, a primative bunch, and it reality not much different than the black underclass that has ruined and made America’s inner-cities uninhabitable for decent folk.

That said President Obama need to stop playing games and put the existensial (for Israel) matter of Iranian nukes on the top of the list and follow it up with an Arab cease fire, and, then, ask Israel, in consideration of that which it has gained, to shut down the settlements. That can work, Obama’s current tack will not.

The question then becomes, why is Obama trying such a backward plan? The answer has been hidden by the liberal media’s kid glove treatment of Obama. For, you see, as an adherent to Black Liberation Theology, Obama is wired to believe that the opressed and their suffering is where G-d is present. So, in the matter at hand, it matters little how animal-like the Palestinians are or how civilized and reasonable the Isrealis, rather for Obama, G-d is present in the oppressed and their liberation is a godly expression of G-d. We have seen this play out time and again with the car unions, with those who are uninsured, etc…

Funny thing is that the liberal sheople used to bleat about President Bush being an theocratic ideologue when in fact President Ob-amateur is the one most informed by a faith that is both blind and radical.

Mrs. Godzilla

May 29th, 2009
9:34 am

Reality King

also having charges dropped…..James Toobin GOP phone jammer

not that there’s anything wrong with that…

TnGelding

May 29th, 2009
9:37 am

This poll says 1/4 of Israelis would consider leaving if Iran got nukes:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1087342.html

What would we have to do to make it 100%? It’s way past time to cut the apron strings.

DB, Gwinnettian

May 29th, 2009
9:38 am

I find it annoying that everyone else thinks that we should be solely responsible for bringing peace to the table.

Yep, that’s a mighty ack-rat depiction of everyone else’s take on this matter.

Seriously, isn’t it common practice any more to stop and think before dropping superlatives in a sentence like that? Did it become too foo-foo for online commenters to occasionally temper their rants with “an awful lot” or “seems like hardly anyone” now and then?

But to Donovan’s point–well, we have taken it upon ourselves to be the world’s policeman, contributing our tax dollars to maintain the world’s mightiest military; plus we commit billions every year to keep Egypt and Israel to play well with one another. Wouldn’t you kind of expect others to think we’d be playing a role in mediating between Israel’s other warring parties?

Gotta run. Later all.

TnGelding

May 29th, 2009
9:41 am

RealityKing

May 29th, 2009
9:30 am

So what?

I just hate to see them wasting precious resources.

Kamchak

May 29th, 2009
9:42 am

“Islam and its terrorist founder, Mohammed, hijacked such territories from the Jews centuries ago.”

Using that logic we can expect to return Ga. and the Carolinas back to the Cherokee Nation when?

@@

May 29th, 2009
9:43 am

Paul:

“@@

“why dat is?”

Huh?”

I like to throw those in to provoke the assuming leftists. It’s actually an inside joke between me and a toddler whom I adore. Kinda like the “I YIKE IT!” you often see me type.

Were you making assumptions, Paul?

(ISH)

Kamchak

May 29th, 2009
9:45 am

(croak) Charles Krauthammer (croak)

josef nix

May 29th, 2009
9:46 am

Hey, maybe one of y’all could tell me where this international zionist conspiracy in control of the banks is meeting. I want to get in line. What’s next, a republication of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

BTW I’m only a lukewarm zionist. My fellow True Southerners (not Yankee imports and turncoats) put me in the shade.

Bottom line, though, foregive us if we are not so gung-ho on “change.” As we see here, it’s opening the door for a brand of anti-Semitism cloaked in terms of “liberal progressivism.” It’s the same whine in new bottles.

Doggone: does this mean G-d is an Indian giver?

jt

May 29th, 2009
9:46 am

Did ya’ll know this. Probably Norm J. did.
That Georgia natives routinely eat the livers of various animals. Chicken, cows, and even bear livers can be quite tasty. But, if a Georgian native was to take ONE bite of a Polar Bear liver, that native would die a horrible death of a VITAMIN A overdose.
Whereas, the INUIT people can and do eat said liver with absolutely no bad effects. Weird.
Also Polar bears in reality are black colored. Their hairs are translucent giving them their white appearances.

Normal

May 29th, 2009
9:47 am

I think we should clean our own back yard, before we tell others how to clean theirs. Let Isreal be Isreal.

md

May 29th, 2009
9:48 am

Hamas is the key., and as long as the palestinians are split, there will be no peace. Abbas must first deal with Hamas before anything gets done. What good is reaching a deal between Abbas and Isreal only to have Hamas/Iran sabotage it?

And just out of curiosity, am I the only one that finds it odd that the palestinians only want the land “back” from Isreal and not Jordan/Syria. The Palestinians hail from many parts of Transjordan, which is territory that is now in Isreal, Jordan, and Syria. Why are the other two not part of the equation?

Donovan

May 29th, 2009
9:56 am

Please improve your minds with readings from the Koran and Netanyahu. I think that you will come to the same conclusion as me.

Dusty

May 29th, 2009
10:00 am

Frankly, my dears, I think Obama better get home and run his own affairs. If the USA is going to tell Israel how to run its business because America sends financial help to Israel, then I guess it will be OK for China to tell us how to run our country.

Just yesterday, Bookman was talking about “patriotism” as if it were a controversial aspect. The Israelis have no such questions as to the meaning and pronoucement of patriotism. They love their country and will fight “tooth and nail” for it. True patriotism is an appealing force for independence, a force getting weaker and weaker in America as citizen forget duty and honor.

Bookman’s blog is the usual shining example of our growing weakness of character and self support.

@@

May 29th, 2009
10:00 am

I’m embarrassed for the AJC, jay.

You’re now in the business of peddling mail-order brides from Russia online.

Either that or you’re pimpin’ for Russia.

josef nix

May 29th, 2009
10:06 am

Donavan…have read both. Also a history book or two. The Muslim’s “hijacked” the territory under question from the Byzantines who “inherited” it from the Romans.

Doggone/GA

May 29th, 2009
10:10 am

“Doggone: does this mean G-d is an Indian giver?”

Have you read “Exodus” lately?

Dusty

May 29th, 2009
10:15 am

@@… 10 am

If AJC used their blog filters on ads, they would go out of business. Every third ad would be dropped. Naybe we can get them to drop the Russians along with the yellow teeth grinning here every day.

getalife

May 29th, 2009
10:18 am

Not giving Israel everything they want is change.

josef nix

May 29th, 2009
10:18 am

Doggone: read it on a regular basis. Passover was just a few short weeks ago, time for navel contemplation. I tend toward secular zionism but my Better Half is more the theological zionist, though he’s a Christian. His comment on all this is “G-d’s name is on the deed.” I tend to agree with Tevye on this Chosen business, “could Y-u choose somebody else for a change?” I’m just not sure Shabbatai Zvi Obama is the agent of said “change!”

@@

May 29th, 2009
10:26 am

Dusty:

The AJC, brought to us by TeeTee — teeth and tatas.

Maybe that’s why Andy calls it The AJC Urinal.

md

May 29th, 2009
10:26 am

The day the US stopped supporting democracy would be a sad day indeed. Isreal and Lebanon are the only democracies in the ME, and Lebanon is hanging by a thread. Some folks here are “little picture” people, and need to expand their views a bit.

I Rule You :-)/ You Whine :-(

May 29th, 2009
10:31 am

You just knew this was coming-

For all its talk of “raising America’s standing” in the world after the Bush years, the Obama administration is doing a spectacularly bad job of reaching out to its allies. Unfortunately this is the new face of America’s public diplomacy, which will only serve to alienate public opinion across the Atlantic. Congratulations Gibbs – you’ve just made an enemy out of the entire British media, quite an achievement for the man in charge of selling the President’s message.

Hahaha.

Loudmouth, trash talking bozos.

@@

May 29th, 2009
10:33 am

I tried to respond to Dusty about the AJC’s advertisements. TeeTee journalism, sponsored by teeth and ta-tas but the filter jammed the post.

I guess that’s why Andy refers to it as the Atlanta Urinal and Constipation. The TeeTee flows freely while the comments get stuck in the tube.

Dusty

May 29th, 2009
10:37 am

Dear josef nix,

Right now, Ziv Obama is ze elected sugary shaman for ze “Change”. As you may have ze vizion of noticeability, we know not in what direction goes ze chamge. Up, down, or sideways? Zat is ze question.

Meanwhile, hold onto your lox & bagels. Food stamps do not cover them. Chop Suey is the new addition in place of old cheese.

josef nix

May 29th, 2009
10:41 am

md…and this is just the point. We want to “create” democracies in our own image. I can’t escape the feeling that many would be happy if Israel did fall into the chaos that engulfed Lebanon.

Dusty

May 29th, 2009
10:43 am

Dear @@,

I have put in a call for Roto-Rooter. Maybe they can help the hopeless filter.

Mort Merkel

May 29th, 2009
10:45 am

Anybody know where I can get me a hot Russian mail-order bride?

josef nix

May 29th, 2009
10:48 am

Dusty…I’m a Sephard from Dixie and don’t know from bagels and lox. But I am holding onto my grits and greens!

As far as Backstroke Barack is concerned, he’d sell is own mama down the river if he thought that would give him more power. Oh, wait a minute, he already has, he being our “first African American” president and she being the white lady under the proverbial woodpile.

clyde

May 29th, 2009
10:51 am

After a quick check of the Russian ladies,thanks for the tip,I can understand why you ladies are a little miffed.

@@

May 29th, 2009
11:03 am

Lee

May 29th, 2009
11:09 am

More political smoke and mirrors. Obama prances around like a rooster to impress the muslims while increasing the amount of “foreign aid” to Israel by a couple of BILLION.

It’s just a matter of time before Israel does something stupid like attack Iran, gas will go to $10 per gallon, and America will hasten down the road to financial ruin.

How much better off would America be if instead of spending TRILLIONS on middle eastern wars, we spent that much on developing new energy sources?

BTW, if you think Israel is a friend of the US, google the USS Liberty.

Turd Fergusen

May 29th, 2009
11:11 am

LOL..USS Liberty is old news…SKANK!

clyde

May 29th, 2009
11:23 am

@@’
You’re mean.

Bubba

May 29th, 2009
11:36 am

Why does anybody believe any concession Israel makes will satisfy the Palestinians? What happened when Israel ceded Gaza? The Palestinians almost immediately began attacking them — precisely what the Israelis said would happen and precisely why they resisted giving up this territory for so long. The Palestinians and Muslims do not want peace with Israel. They want Israel eliminated. Any other solution will not appease them. Muslims believe any land they have ever occupied is theirs for eternity. Let’s see how Obama deals with that mindset.

ken

May 29th, 2009
11:38 am

1000 yrs. from now, they will still hate each other.

TnGelding

May 29th, 2009
11:41 am

Dusty

May 29th, 2009
10:00 am

China is investing in this country, something that wouldn’t be necessary if the filthy rich would do the same. We’re GIVING aid to Israel. But the total amount since 1946 pales in comparison to what has been spent (wasted?) in Iraq in the last 6 years.

Obama is receiving the principles at the White House.

Paul

May 29th, 2009
12:01 pm

@@ 9:43

[[Were you making assumptions]]

Nope – which is why I asked a question (huh?) so you’d clarify and I’d understand your intent.

md 9:48

[[And just out of curiosity, am I the only one that finds it odd that the palestinians only want the land “back” from Isreal and not Jordan/Syria.]]

’cause it’s the International Zionist Conspiracy that’s the enemy, remember?

Dave R

May 29th, 2009
12:16 pm

First of all, I’ve got to say that watching Hope & Change and Bibi together reminded me of the smackdown that new judge on “Idol” gave to the “Bikini girl”. One can perform, and one can just look good.

And LMAO at the very first comment on this thread today from DBAtlanta:

“How many billions do we send Israel each year and why? If they can’t make it as their own country then they should annul the country.”

If we didn’t print up billions in phony money every day, we’d be in the same boat. Maybe we should annul ourselves and start over.

@@

May 29th, 2009
12:37 pm

To Hillbilly Deluxe who, it would appear, has gone missing.

Just wanted you to know that I’ve been listening to more country music and I YIKE IT!!!

Heard Roger Miller’s “Chug-a-lug” yesterday. Made me smile AND dance (the best I could while driving) anyway.

The lyrics of those I’ve heard so far can be heartfelt if’n you’re a heart to.

Needless to say….I’m missing ‘ya Hillbilly. Come on down for a flat-lander.

Gandalf, the White! (!)

May 29th, 2009
12:37 pm

Jay, how’s the job hunt going?

TnGelding

May 29th, 2009
12:39 pm

Dave R

May 29th, 2009
12:16 pm

Yeah, I started to mention we were borrowing to send them aid.

TUESDAY VANDY GIRL

May 29th, 2009
12:39 pm

Bibi is more skilled than bambam in this game…why do blacks always side with arabs? Don’t they KNOW what arabs think about blacks? Illogical

Paul

May 29th, 2009
12:48 pm

TVD

Sammy Davis Jr sided with Arabs?!!?

Kamchak

May 29th, 2009
12:51 pm

“China is investing in this country, something that wouldn’t be necessary if the filthy rich would do the same.”

The filthy rich have used language to frame this message:
I love the free market–free market=U.S.A.–ergo I love U.S.A.

Wage earners are deemed to be a “legacy” cost that interferes with profits. High costs of health care, housing, transportation energy, and now food, has put the W-2 crowd into the expendable slot. Our high standard of living is in direct conflict with P/E ratios.

RW-(the original)

May 29th, 2009
1:13 pm

As far as Backstroke Barack is concerned, he’d sell is own mama down the river if he thought that would give him more power. Oh, wait a minute, he already has, he being our “first African American” president and she being the white lady under the proverbial woodpile

Actually with a Kenyan father Obama is one of the few mixed race people that can call themselves African-American without selling out the white half.

Question

May 29th, 2009
1:34 pm

So, where’s PresBO’s “line in the sand” position and statement for North Korea and Iran????

RealityKing

May 29th, 2009
4:41 pm

PresBO can’t draw a line in the sand when his head in the sand..

bob daniel

May 30th, 2009
1:07 am

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Amadis

January 10th, 2010
2:20 pm

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