It’s a holiday weekend, folks

What are you throwing on the grill?

(I’m attending a college graduation, so I’m out of commission on the barbeque front),

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I Rule You :-) / You Whine :-(

May 23rd, 2009
7:56 am

Barbecued yard bird, of course.

Probably Rib Eyes too.

The nation has lost 5.7 million jobs since the recession, the longest since World War II, began in December 2007. The nationwide unemployment rate stands at 8.9 percent, the highest in a quarter-century.-Urinal

It’s a good thing that Obozo saved 4 million jobs, where would we be with out the messiah?

Yay, Obozo!

Ray

May 23rd, 2009
8:04 am

Plan to go to the military cemetery just outside of Ft. Benning and pay my respects… wish it could be in Normandy.

BDAtlanta

May 23rd, 2009
8:14 am

Summer in the South. Every May I’m reminded of reading William Faulkner. You can practically taste the dust of the dirt roads in those stories.

Sentences that go on for pages.

Road Scholar

May 23rd, 2009
8:22 am

Thank you veterans and present military servicemen for your 24/7 service. The US is proud of you and your accomplishments. May those who have passed rest in peace. May their families feel the pride and gratitude that we, all Americans, have for them.

Mrs. Godzilla

May 23rd, 2009
8:53 am

We did our family gathering last night. Burgers, brats, coleslaw….all the traditional stuff. Small crisis when we couldn’t find the key to MeeMee’s oxygen tank, but Zillette in Law (now officially #3) found the pliers.

Our favorite Vet, Mr. G. is already on the links. Late into the night he wistfully watched the hourly precipitation forecast for today and triangulated tee time to within a nanosecond. He’ll show up happy, wet, stinky and hungry ’bout noon.

My other favorite Vet, Pop, not so happy. My Mom passed on memorial weekend 18 years ago, it’s also her birthday this year. Surrounded by over 2 dozen grandkids, he still will have the mully-grubs all weekend.

Both of these men gave service to their nation. In uniform in time of war and as good husbands and fathers their whole lives. I’m crazy about them.

Thank you to all the men and women in America’s service. May god bless you and keep you from harms way.

Vinny

May 23rd, 2009
8:59 am

Jay probably doesn’t even know what holiday it is. All he can think of to ask is “what are you throwing on the grill?”

Jay, wouldn’t a better question be “How are you planning on honoring our fallen American soldiers that gave their life for our country?”

Linville

May 23rd, 2009
8:59 am

Wish i was working the Q-pit this weekend but I bought some real estate and will work all weekend getting them ready to rent–”slumlord-in-training”.

Will be thinking of our vets and blessing them for the work they’re doing to keep our country safe.

Have a great weekend all!

Redneck Convert

May 23rd, 2009
9:35 am

Well, I see they outlawed the student librul Democrat club up at the Rev. Falwell’s old place, Liberty University. Kicked them right off of the campus. Said it was godless and didn’t have the right values. Now that’s the kind of colledge I might could support. I’m for Free Speech and all that stuff, but not when it’s in favor of stuff I don’t beleive in.

Anyhow, no BBQ grilling for me. Me and the missus are headed to Ryans to stuff our face to honor all the dead veterans. There’s nothing better anybody could do than help Free Innerprize at a place like Ryans. Those veterans died in order to give us the right to grab as much money as we can as quick as we can. Now if the U.S. of A. would stop stealing our paycheck with all the taxes we could make it alot faster.

Have a good day everybody.

clyde

May 23rd, 2009
9:43 am

I may barbequte some hot dogs on a stick over an open fire this weekend.I’ll leave the grilling to the police.

mm

May 23rd, 2009
9:43 am

Republican kabobs.

getalife

May 23rd, 2009
10:04 am

Going to waterboard some seafood and cover it up with steaks.

the bull god

May 23rd, 2009
10:10 am

big green egg: ribs and brisket. and a little sausage on the side.

maybe this won’t get dumped by the pc police?

the bull god

May 23rd, 2009
10:19 am

keep it up redneck! it’s awesome to see your backassward librul view on the hardworking blue collar sect of america!

we love you

@@

May 23rd, 2009
10:29 am

What are you throwing on the grill?

If it ever stops raining….a sponge and soapy water.

jewcowboy:

Is there a reason you brought out “civil” discussion to the upper level for everyone to see?

Just wanted to show off your riding skills didn’t ‘ya, pilgrim?

Mail call one flight down.

GiddyUp cowboy!

AmVet

May 23rd, 2009
10:30 am

I’m fairly surprised the christo-fascists in Va. allowed Democrats in their cult to begin with.

Seriously.

I always laugh when rabid Reich-wingers listen to The Who, etc.

Those uber-liberals stand exactly for everything the reactionaries hate.

Must be very confusing for the neo-conned. That, and they have so precious little musical talent that even remotely agrees with their loathsome worldview…

Big shindig at the girlfriend’s house. I bring the beer. (No Wiper, not that cheapa$$ swill. The real stuff. Microbrews and/or Belgian, etc…)

But, I’ll be thinking about my dad, who is buried in Fort McPherson National Cemetery. A beautiful little place along the Platte River in western Nebraska. Gone twenty years and I still miss him.

And to those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for this nation, I salute you. Because of you and your valor, we have EVERYTHING that we do. Including our very lives.

And I will never, ever forget you…

Dick Cheney

May 23rd, 2009
10:32 am

Tenderized enemy combatants.

Brad Steel

May 23rd, 2009
10:37 am

I’ll be serving up the deeply sad irony of failed political policy and the thousands of lives it has cost.

There will be a force-feed side of celebration of state-sponsored murder and violence salad.

Whine will be served. Sorry, but, as usual, it’s bitter, predictable, sour and quite unoriginal.

the bull god

May 23rd, 2009
10:39 am

i laugh when libruls like amvet try and roast a hotdog.

couldn’t boil water…

I Rule You :-) / You Whine :-(

May 23rd, 2009
10:54 am

In a sobering holiday interview with C-SPAN, President Obama boldly told Americans: “We are out of money.”

Boldly, he broke the news.

No more silly milestones in United States history, pointless accomplishments like landing a man on the moon, defeating fascists in Germany and Japan, eradicating polio, nope, future generations will be hailed for figuring out that they are spending money we do not have.

I am truly awed.

Mrs. Godzilla

May 23rd, 2009
11:03 am

I thought this tidbit from OpenLeft was interesting….

“According to Professor David Blight of the Yale University History Department, the first memorial day was observed in 1865 by liberated slaves at the historic Washington Race Course (today the location of Hampton Park) in Charleston. The site was a former Confederate prison camp as well as a mass grave for Union soldiers who died in captivity.
The freed slaves disinterred the dead Union soldiers from the mass grave to be inhumed properly reposed with individual graves, built a fence around the graveyard with an entry arch, declaring it a Union graveyard. A daring action for freed slaves to take such in the South just shortly after the Union’s victory. On May 30, 1868, the freed slaves returned to the graveyard with flowers they had picked from the countryside and decorated the individual gravesites, thereby creating the first Decoration Day. Thousands of freed blacks and Union soldiers paraded from the area, followed by much patriotic singing and a picnic.”

AmVet

May 23rd, 2009
11:07 am

BS Deity, that’s what I pay flunkies like you minimum wage.

So I can drink beer and recreate…

the bull god

May 23rd, 2009
11:14 am

i hope your flunkies quit and never come back.

do it you self jackass.

Hillbilly Deluxe

May 23rd, 2009
11:16 am

When I was a boy, virtually all adult men were WWII vets. We’re reportedly losing them at the rate of about 1000 a day (that rate may have decreased) and soon they’ll all be gone. I’m a much better person for having known them.

the bull god

May 23rd, 2009
11:17 am

im sure amvet is king of his domain, but everyone, and i mean everyone answers to somebody.

your choice…

AmVet

May 23rd, 2009
11:17 am

No, BS, unqualified to do much of anything else, as well as stupid and desperate means you’ll never leave…

sarah palin

May 23rd, 2009
11:18 am

Well golly gee…Up here we’re having a wolf fest…(wink) have I told you how easy it is shooting these critters from our state funded helicopter? Well, it’s really cool! As they run across the open field we just plunk away….sooner or later we wound them, and once they’re on the ground withering around .. It’s lights out! (wink) Ka-bam!!!!! Ya betcha….

Joe the plumber is our scheduled speaker…and Bristol is bringing the young’un….and, I’ll be keeping my eye on Russia from my front porch, just in case they try somethin’ funny on this Memorial Day….Ya betcha

Hillbilly Deluxe

May 23rd, 2009
11:19 am

And another thought since this is Memorial Day, we’ve all seen the films of the celebrations at the end of WWII. The nation was swept up in great joy but think how bitter sweet it must have been for the families of the 400,000+ who knew their boy wasn’t coming home.

rcs

May 23rd, 2009
11:33 am

baby back ribs on the smoker.

Mrs G. to add to your piece from americaslibrary.gov:

The official birthplace of Memorial Day is Waterloo, New York. The village was credited with being the place of origin because it observed the day on May 5, 1866, and each year thereafter. The friendship between General John Murray, a distinguished citizen of Waterloo, and General John A. Logan, who helped bring attention to the event nationwide, likely was a factor in the holiday’s growth.

Logan had been the principal speaker in a citywide memorial observation on April 29, 1866, at a cemetery in Carbondale, Illinois, an event that likely gave him the idea to make it a national holiday. On May 5, 1868, in his capacity as commander-in-chief of the Grand Army of the Republic, a veterans’ organization, Logan issued a proclamation that “Decoration Day” be observed nationwide. It was observed for the first time on May 30 of the same year; the date was chosen because it was not the anniversary of a battle. The tombs of fallen Union soldiers were decorated in remembrance.

AmVet

May 23rd, 2009
11:45 am

A rational Republican? OK, so to the “faithful”, the chickenhawks and the neo-conned, he’s not a member of the GOP, but really isn’t they who are the RINOs?

Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, tells Fox News that the Guantanamo Bay prison facility that houses terrorist detainees in Cuba should be closed because of the questionable way prisoners were captured.

“It should be closed because we don’t need it,” Paul, a former presidential candidate, told The Glenn Beck Show’s substitute host Andrew Napolitano.

“It was unnecessary, the way these prisoners were captured was very questionable, Paul said. “They haven’t had really due process. So, the real thugs that need to be tried, they ought to be tried.”

Paul said the key to closing the facility is first to show why the detainees are there, and then prove that they’ve done something wrong in some legitimate recognized court of law.

“I think that’s the key to it. And so far, they don’t have an answer, because they’re not allowing them to be tried in a legitimate court of law.”

Paul said a good example of what to do with alleged terrorists was set with the individuals involved in the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993.

“I mean, we even went into Pakistan, arrested them, brought them over here, tried them in our court system, and they’re not our neighbors,” Paul pointed out. “They are in a federal prison and nobody feels threatened by them. So, I’m not so sure why they are so determined not to pursue the law.”

eagle scout

May 23rd, 2009
12:09 pm

This is going to be a special weekend in the scouts household…A bunch of my old comrades in arms (vietnam) are getting together to eat, drink and really get merry for the next two days! This little get together was planned at our last reunion…and I won the lucky straw to host the event! It should be a blast! One of the guys is coming in from as faraway as Seattle, another from Wyoming. Time’s a wasting .. gotta run.

getalife

May 23rd, 2009
12:11 pm

“Greta: Is waterboarding torture or enhanced interrogation techniques, what words do we use on this?

McCain: It’s torture. It’s in violation of the Geneva Conventions of the international agreement on torture treaty…singed during the Reagan administration. It goes all the way back to the Spanish Inquisition. It’s not a new technique and it is certainly torture.”

Yet, he wants to give them a free pass.

What are these people thinking?

Taxpayer

May 23rd, 2009
12:22 pm

Grilled mancow — what a whiner. God knows there’s no bull there.

RW-(the original)

May 23rd, 2009
12:36 pm

1/16 of the comments are libs for cannibalism. You are some truly strange folks.

Kamchak

May 23rd, 2009
12:38 pm

“Grilled mancow–what a whiner. God knows there’s no bull there.”

And it comes pre-brined.

dmac

May 23rd, 2009
12:44 pm

Clearly Taxpayer has not experienced the drowning torture. Nor, would I wish it upon him/her or anyone.

If you want to prove you are macho, take a terror suspect and apply the same rules to his/her detention and access to the courts as you would anyone else. That, my friend takes guts. That, is what makes our country exceptional.

Having experienced torture himself, Mancow did the right thing to call it what it is.

Taxpayer

May 23rd, 2009
12:50 pm

dmac,

I agree with your 12:44 post. Really, I do.

catlady

May 23rd, 2009
1:36 pm

Dick Cheney–would that be tenderized FOREIGN terrorists or tenderized DOMESTIC terrorists?

Thank you and GOD bless to all the people in service to our country, stretching back over the centuries: my father, captured and imprisoned in the Battle of the Bulge (who finally found out 45 years later what had happened to “his men”, and cried in relief), my granddad in France in WWI, my former husband, Viet Nam era, and all the others.

Question for one of you who understands these things: I live in an area that has had very few veterans from WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. There were not many who served. Do you think it was some kind of geography thing–that they just stayed on the farms in the mountains and didn’t register? Growing up, I knew few adult men, and relatively young men my age (Vietnam) who did not serve from the area I lived in in northern Alabama. I have always been puzzled as to why so few from my current county in North GA served, even during times of conscription during Vietnam. They certainly did not have college deferrments! Were there marked differences between areas of the country? (I find it funny that an area that holds God, country, family, and guns in such high esteem would have had so few to serve. Or maybe, like Dickey-boy above, they are all for service BY OTHERS).

At any rate, I hope we all spend time reflecting on those who have and are serving the country.

N.J,

May 23rd, 2009
1:45 pm

Same thing happened under FDR. It took 18 months for his programs to start reversing the downward momentum of the conservative economic policies put in place by his Republican predecessor, Herbert Hoover. Like anything, the downward momentum caused by idiotic conservative faith based economics does not immediately reverse itself when sane policies are put in place. You look at the effects of conservative policies on the economy BEFORE Roosevelt took over and note that they continued well into his second year in office before government policies reversed them. Same thing happened with Clinton. Took months to reverse the downward spiral caused by his predecessors assertion that the “market would correct itself”. This is the MAIN conservtive myth. That there is some supernatural aspect of the market called “market forces” that is distinctly separate from human behavior which will ALWAYS punish those who try to use the market in bad ways.

There is ZERO historical proof to back up these assertions, but Repblicans and conservatives tend to be averse to things like proof or scientific method.

The data is here:

Year Receipts Spending Growth Unemp. Rate
————————————————-
1929 — — — 3.2% < Hoover era, Great Depression begins
1930 4.2% 3.4% – 9.4% 8.7
1931 3.7 4.3 – 8.5 15.9
1932 2.9 7.0 -13.4 23.6
1933 3.5 8.1 – 2.1 24.9 < FDR, New Deal begins; contraction ends March
1934 4.9 10.8 + 7.7 21.7
1935 5.3 9.3 + 8.1 20.1
1936 5.1 10.6 +14.1 16.9
1937 6.2 8.7 + 5.0 14.3 < recession begins, May
1938 7.7 7.8 – 4.5 19.0 < recession ends, June
1939 7.2 10.4 + 7.9 17.2

As you can see, Roosevelt began relatively modest deficit spending that arrested the slide of the economy and resulted in some astonishing growth numbers. (Roosevelt’s average growth of 5.2 percent during the Great Depression is even higher than Reagan’s 3.7 percent growth during his so-called “Seven Fat Years!”) When 1936 saw a phenomenal record of 14 percent growth, Roosevelt eased back on the deficit spending, overly worried about balancing the budget. But this only caused the economy to slip back into a recession, as the above chart shows.

In 1937, the Depression was essentially over. Roosevelt being a basic capitalist knew that since unemployment is a lagging indicator, that once GNP growth had been relit, employment would soon follow. His only error was that in 1936, being pressured by a Republican Congress, as well as a Supreme Court that declared the New Deal unconstitutional, he reverted to his original idea when elected. Balancing the budget was FDR’s sole principal for restoring the economy in 1933, and so government spending did not increase much in 1933.

While everyone claims it was WWII that ended the depression, this is only partially true. Kenynes predicted that only some massive global catastrophe that requireed the GOVERNMENT to enter into deficit spending that was many times higher than it was, pumping money into businesses that the private sector would not, before would be sufficient to end the depression completely.

Roosevelt saw the main fallacy in conservative arguments. The assertion that if you give the rich a tax cut they will use it to start new businesses or create jobs is at best, a guess. There is no absolute certainty that a wealthy person will take every cent of the money they get from tax cuts, and use it in ways that are good for the economy. Nothing to stop them from using it to buy a yacht, build another mansion, or blow it all in the Casino at Monte Carlo. Nothing at all. But if you create a very high top marginal tax rate, which results in a rich person losing 70 percent of any money they pull out of an investment or even their own private corporation, so that the only way they can avoid that tax is by leaving in the markets, both main street and wall street, you keep capital in the markets, and not outside of them. The rich will do anything to avoid taxes, they rarely pay them. It is for the government to assure that they WILl use them in ways that are good for the economy, and not merely good for themselves.

the bull god

May 23rd, 2009
3:13 pm

more data, NJ, more data!

Hillbilly Deluxe

May 23rd, 2009
4:08 pm

Catlady:

I don’t know where you live in North Georgia but in my area the woods is full of them as we say. That’s not meant to be a flippant answer; it’s just the truth.

One man from my county was shot down and killed in France in WWII. A young French girl there saw his plane go down and a few years ago she made the trek here to meet his family. She said she had been close enough to it to actually be able to see him and it had never left her. She had always wondered who he was and where he came from. After many years of searching she was finally able to do that. It was a gesture on her part that did his family a world of good.

the bull god

May 23rd, 2009
4:23 pm

hd, you might not get much sympathy from catlady (how many cats do you have?) and once admonished (ms. chadly) .

TnGelding

May 23rd, 2009
5:21 pm

Vinny

May 23rd, 2009
8:59 am

That was addressed in an earlier posting.

Weather too bad for me to be grilling outside.

Do you think Obama would be prepared to offer to withdraw all U.S. troops from Muslim countries if they capture and turn over UBL at his “summit?”

Bud Wiser

May 23rd, 2009
7:09 pm

Give it up Chad, you loser.

Your cut and paste ‘technique’ shines you out like a good flashlight when you go ‘gator hunting.

No one reads it. You, like your posts, are a stain upon this site.

Begone, foul spot!!!

catlady

May 23rd, 2009
7:16 pm

Here is where my data comes from: for many years I filled out or reviewed the data forms submitted when kids registered for school. Virtually NONE of their fathers were veterans, out of hundreds of kids.This would be data from kids entering school from the early 70s to the late 80s, and should have captured Viet Nam era veterans well.

Also, our county honors local veterans each year, and very few of them listed in the paper(for free) are “native sons.” Lots of “new people”, but few natives. In addition, few come to be honored with food, a parade, etc. on Veterans’ Day.

Both sources might be a result of bias due to self reporting, however. Our local paper and TV stations also frequently print the stories of these (seemingly) few veterans.

Is there a source for the correct information?

We do have several local youth in the service now, although very few are “native” folks. (Native: lived here at least 3 generations, which would be about 50 years in local time).

catlady

May 23rd, 2009
7:21 pm

Well, obviously the tv does not print the stories, but it does interviews. Also the local VFW has monuments in the park listing the names of local veterans who died in the wars. Few are listed.

I have just wondered if the Viet Nam era boys were not inducted because they did not register for the draft, or the draft board did little to find them. Surely they did not all get high numbers.

N.J,

May 23rd, 2009
7:27 pm

We could have captured Bin Laden years ago had we not gotten involved in either Iraq OR Afghanistan as long as that was where Bin Laden wasn’t. The idea of forcing “democracy” on both Iraq and Afghanistan was simply a rebranding of the 1950’s policies of “making the world safe for Democracy” which was basically a catastrophe and resulted in the Muslims finally getting the idea that democracy sucked for them,that they always were getting the wrong end of the stick in anytime they dealt with the United States. Their relations with the Soviets was better, because it wasnt very hard for them to get the Soviets to leave. When the Egyptians told the Russians to get out, they got out, simple, clean, and easy, but when the U.S. came in they stayed for good and would not leave when politely asked. So the in the end, the Muslims simply copied the methods that the Israeli’s used to get the British to leave the Mandate of Palestine. Terrorism. This was not a Muslim idea. They saw how well it worked when the Jews of Palestine wanted to get the British to give up its mandate and decided that if it worked for the Israelis, it would work for them

Hillbilly Deluxe

May 23rd, 2009
7:53 pm

In my community a lot of people are veterans but they never mention it. They don’t go in for parades or seeing their name in the paper. My Daddy is one of these people as was my Grandpa. They view it as they served when it was their turn and doing their duty isn’t something they need rewarded for. I guess I’d qualify as local; I’m 7th generation.

TnGelding

May 24th, 2009
12:36 pm

Vinny

May 23rd, 2009
8:59 am

And I’m sure it will be addressed again Monday.