12:23 pm May 22, 2009, by Jay
I don’t know if Obama will be able to put this together; at this point the plans seem a little vague. But it’s a good idea, and it would really drive certain folks over the brink:
From the Washington Times:
“Obama, who will travel to Egypt next month to give a major speech to the Muslim world, told Wolffe he wants to convene a “Muslim summit.”
“If I had a Muslim summit, I think that I can speak credibly to them about the fact that I respect their culture,” Obama said, “that I understand their religion, that I have lived in a Muslim country, and as a consequence I know it is possible to reconcile Islam with modernity and respect for human rights and a rejection of violence. And I think I can speak with added credibility.”
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Mrs. Godzilla
May 22nd, 2009
12:25 pm
Great Idea.
However, it will make some heads explode.
(following shortly……)
Copyleft
May 22nd, 2009
12:30 pm
You can bet the tinfoil-hat crowd will be screeching about this one.
But then, common sense always makes them nervous.
Kamchak
May 22nd, 2009
12:33 pm
“However, it will make some heads explode.”
You mean it isn’t happening already on an hourly basis?
pat
May 22nd, 2009
12:36 pm
What an idiot.
God bless him on his futile mission.
Taxpayer
May 22nd, 2009
12:36 pm
This sounds like a great idea. I would love to see Cheney’s (and others like him) veins bulging right now. hehehe
Mrs. Godzilla
May 22nd, 2009
12:40 pm
Kamchak
You are correct, oh wise one!
Funny that people who say the most “idiotic” things, seem so afraid
of constructive dialogue.
Northern Songs Ltd
May 22nd, 2009
12:48 pm
BLAM!!!! That was my head exploding. Now back to our regularly scheduled idiot-fest.
Obozo
May 22nd, 2009
12:48 pm
Hey, which one of you ragheads do I surrender to?
Allah Akbar!
Yes we can!
Kamchak
May 22nd, 2009
12:51 pm
Mrs. Godzilla
Reactionaries, by definition, are afraid of anything that challenges/changes their ideology.
Mr. Snarky
May 22nd, 2009
12:53 pm
Should be some good middle eastern food at this thing. How do I get a ticket?
Let the right wing extremists harp away…everyone ignores them anyway, so let them revel in their irrelevance.
Bosch
May 22nd, 2009
12:53 pm
A Muslim summit? WTF? I know his intentions are good and the idea is good, but do we have to call it that?
What if the President of Egypt decided to hold a “Christian summit.” We’d all be like “Who the hell are you?”
Bosch
May 22nd, 2009
12:57 pm
Why not just call it “The US Doesn’t Understand Your Customs/Culture and We are Really Really Trying to Do So, So You’ll Quit Blowing Things Up and Then We Can Start Thinking Of You People As Relevant to Humanity and Then We Can all Start Getting Along Summit?”
Mr. Snarky
May 22nd, 2009
12:59 pm
I know that moderate, responsible muslim leaders have trouble getting their voices heard with all the focus being on the jihadi fringe. Hopefully this would give them a chance to be heard.
Bosch
May 22nd, 2009
1:01 pm
BTW, Just so you know, that’s not what I think of our Muslim brothers and sisters, but if I were a Muslim in Egypt and had read that article, that’s what I’d think it meant.
Redneck Convert
May 22nd, 2009
1:01 pm
Well, seems to me he ought to preach a good sermon to the ragheads and give a call to the altar for them so they can be good Christians that get along with everybody–on Sunday at least. My buddy Jim Earl says they’re already halfway there. They don’t drink on Sunday or any other day but we could teach them about having a PBR or two or three on the other days of the week. If he can’t do it then I know the Rev. Jim Bob Buice is looking for something to do and could go along on the trip.
But no, I reckon our Muslim President got to get together with other Muslims and see how much it would cost to surrender to them. I know what I would give them all if I was the President–a good grenade up the tailpipe of every one of them.
Have a good p.m. everybody.
DB, Gwinnettian
May 22nd, 2009
1:02 pm
Bosch @ 12.53, fair point, but–and at the risk of being just pedantic as all get-out–I am pretty sure that “if I had a Muslim summit” is not equal to “I want to convene a Muslim summit.”
(But then this is FoxNews’ review of an as-yet-unpublished book, and I’m also sure they wouldn’t deliberately hype something that the rest of us aren’t able to verify for ourselves because they’re known for being scrupulously fair to the current Administration.)
Class of '98
May 22nd, 2009
1:02 pm
I don’t know about heads, but I fully expect to see a few airplanes, subways and buildings explode during Hussein’s tenure.
DB, Gwinnettian
May 22nd, 2009
1:04 pm
From the Wiki:
Bill Sammon is Fox News Washington Managing Editor and a Vice President for the network. He’s the author of four New York Times bestsellers: At Any Cost: How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election; Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism from Inside the White House; Misunderestimated: The President Battles Terrorism, Media Bias and the Bush Haters; and Strategery: How George W. Bush Is Defeating Terrorists, Outwitting Democrats, and Confounding the Mainstream Media.
So I’m sure he doesn’t have any ax to grind or anything.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 22nd, 2009
1:04 pm
I’ve known a lot of people in Forsyth County named Buice but not one named Rev. Jim Bob.
Joey
May 22nd, 2009
1:06 pm
I hope Obama is successful in convening summit of Muslim leaders.
It will certainly be a real eye-opener for many of us. And a confirmation for many others of us. Those of us who trust that Muslim leaders mean exactly what they say when they say when they speak of Jihad. When Islam leaders speak of the destiny they will bring to non-believers. Including different Sects of their own Islam.
Failure to pull it together could be a similar but lesser education.
Scooter
May 22nd, 2009
1:07 pm
Obozo@12:48 You need to be more respectful of muslims. They are not ragheads. Their hats are made of sheets. The politicly correct term is sheethead. Let us hope that Obama gets the results he is looking for!
mike
May 22nd, 2009
1:08 pm
Jay –
“But it’s a good idea, and it would really drive certain folks over the brink.”
It is comments like this that makes one think that your mission in life is to comment on “certain folks” and that you come from the other camp of “certain folks”. Can you put the partisanship on hold for a day or two and just comment on things without criticizing “them”?
Bosch
May 22nd, 2009
1:09 pm
DB,
I had to look up the word “pendantic.”
Yes, considering the source, it does look like cherry pickens galore, which is pretty normal wingnut behavior, and it would be nice to see the entire quote/speech.
I’ll do a googly search and see what I can find.
mike
May 22nd, 2009
1:10 pm
Kamchak –
“Reactionaries, by definition, are afraid of anything that challenges/changes their ideology.”
Serious question: do you really think that you are any more accepting of anything that challenges/changes your ideology?
demwit
May 22nd, 2009
1:11 pm
Hey I once lived in China, when I was 5, therefore as a consequence I know it is possible to reconcile Buddism with modernity and respect for human rights and a rejection of violence. And I think I can speak with added credibility.
Kamchak
May 22nd, 2009
1:11 pm
The UDCUYC/CWRRTDSSYQBTUTWCSTOYPARHTWCSGAS Summit? I’ll try Bosch, but it’s kinda ungainly.
Joey
May 22nd, 2009
1:12 pm
And Radicals embrace change for the sake of change.
Kamchak
May 22nd, 2009
1:12 pm
mike
yes
demwit
May 22nd, 2009
1:13 pm
Oh wait.., didn’t those 19 highjackers from 9/11 live in a Christian country for awhile? And didn’t they also think that they could speak with added credibility??
mike
May 22nd, 2009
1:13 pm
Bosch:
Serious question: do you really think that conservative partisans are more prone to cherry picking of facts than are liberal partisans? Do you really believe that the difference between liberals and conservatives goes beyond policy positions and extends to intellectual rigor?
pat
May 22nd, 2009
1:17 pm
I wonder how many times he’ll apologize on America’s behalf?
After all, it was American poicies that drove these people to want to kill us in cold blood. In case you didn’t know it these radicals have no control over their own behavior, they simply just react with out any kind of postulation at all. Really, they cannot choose! We are in control of their behaviour, not them. That’s how Bush took down the towers…he made them do it. They had no choice!
demwit
May 22nd, 2009
1:21 pm
Come to think of it, I’ve lived on 5 different continents. Therefore, as a consequence, surely I can speak with added credibility on anything!!
Mrs. Godzilla
May 22nd, 2009
1:22 pm
pat
I would hope President Obama apologizes for America whenever it’s necessary.
Bosch
May 22nd, 2009
1:27 pm
Mike,
I said “wingnut” not “conservative partisan” – there’s a difference, and yes, I do consider Fox News to be one of the wingnuttiest around.
Kamchak,
Yeah, I guess that’s no good – the bumper stickers would be a pain to understand.
DB, Gwinnettian
May 22nd, 2009
1:27 pm
pat, setting your hyperbole @ 1.17 aside, I have to ask: do you really have a problem with what Obama said in this speech?
Specifically–since I guess this is what you mean by “apologize” — this?
It’s always harder to forge true partnerships and sturdy alliances than to act alone, or to wait for the action of somebody else. It’s more difficult to break down walls of division than to simply allow our differences to build and our resentments to fester. So we must be honest with ourselves. In recent years we’ve allowed our Alliance to drift. I know that there have been honest disagreements over policy, but we also know that there’s something more that has crept into our relationship. In America, there’s a failure to appreciate Europe’s leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.
But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual but can also be insidious. Instead of recognizing the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what’s bad.
On both sides of the Atlantic, these attitudes have become all too common. They are not wise. They do not represent the truth. They threaten to widen the divide across the Atlantic and leave us both more isolated. They fail to acknowledge the fundamental truth that America cannot confront the challenges of this century alone, but that Europe cannot confront them without America.
You find this irresponsible, do you? Seriously?
Mr. Snarky
May 22nd, 2009
1:32 pm
“but I fully expect to see a few airplanes, subways and buildings explode during Hussein’s tenure.”
Good thing that didn’t happen during Bush’s tenure…oh wait, it did.
Never mind.
jewcowboy
May 22nd, 2009
1:34 pm
Class of ‘98,
“I don’t know about heads, but I fully expect to see a few airplanes, subways and buildings explode during Hussein’s tenure.”
Kinda like the last administration? Why does the right wing always tend to forget who was President on 9.10.01?
I Rule You :-) / You Whine :-(
May 22nd, 2009
1:35 pm
But it’s a good idea, and it would really drive certain folks over the brink:
Nice choice of words bookman, I wonder how many people were “driven over the brink” when the Muslims held their little summit at the World Trade Centers?
And as far as my “head exploding,” what else did you libs think we should have expected from Obozo, after all, he is a Muslim and a dimwit too, just like those psychotics planting fake bombs that the police gave them, remember the good snicker you had this morning AJC? These Muslim people are just morons and harmless too, right?
And like they say, birds of a feather flock together, so off flies our little tard to be with his.
mike
May 22nd, 2009
1:37 pm
Bosch-
“I said “wingnut” not “conservative partisan” – there’s a difference, and yes, I do consider Fox News to be one of the wingnuttiest around.”
Hmmm. Well, since your definition of wingnut seems to only include conservatives, do you think that wingnuts are any more likely to cherry pick facts than are the liberal version of wingnuts? Do you consider MSNBC to be any more reliable than Fox?
jewcowboy
May 22nd, 2009
1:38 pm
Mr. Snarky,
I guess we are on the same wavelegnth
mike
May 22nd, 2009
1:39 pm
jewcowboy –
“Kinda like the last administration? Why does the right wing always tend to forget who was President on 9.10.01?”
Fair enough, but as Bush’s critics demonstrated after 9/11, they also would have criticized him if he had taken action on vague threats. There was certainly far more intelligence that Iraq had WMD then there was intelligence about 9/11.
Kamchak
May 22nd, 2009
1:40 pm
mike
Serious question: Do you think you could ever post here without using “ad-hominem attack” or it’s definition?
Doggone/GA
May 22nd, 2009
1:41 pm
“since your definition of wingnut seems to only include conservatives”
All wingnuts are conservatives. Not all conservatives are wingnuts. Thank God!
Gandalf, the White! (!)
May 22nd, 2009
1:43 pm
Get ‘em all together and call in an airstrike! Best idea Barry has had since taking office.
Copyleft: You’re a dumbass!
jewcowboy
May 22nd, 2009
1:46 pm
mike,
mike,
“Do you consider MSNBC to be any more reliable than Fox?”
Fox News does have a record of sloppy reporting, such as misidentifying party affiliations. Identifying McCain as a Democrat, Sheldon Whitehouse as a Republican, and Mark Foley as a Democrat. Whether intentional or by mistake, it’s odd that this continues to happen, and makes one question the accuracy of their reporting.
Gandalf, the White! (!)
May 22nd, 2009
1:47 pm
A great Islamic leader like Barry Hussien Nobama should hold this summit! I have been telling you all along he’s a towelhead! Now we have proof from none other than the soon to be un-employed Jay “the assclown” Bookman! See he is good for something! Towelheads in AMERICA!
mike
May 22nd, 2009
1:47 pm
Kamchak –
“Serious question: Do you think you could ever post here without using “ad-hominem attack” or it’s definition?”
It’s got nothing to do with ad-hominem attacks, attacks. It has to do with your hypocrisy. When folks like yourself make the claim that those whose don’t share your views exhibit behavior that yoou yourself engage in, it makes you look like a hypocrite.
I answered your question. Care to answer mine?
jewcowboy
May 22nd, 2009
1:49 pm
mike,
“There was certainly far more intelligence that Iraq had WMD then there was intelligence about 9/11.”
I’ll grant that up to a point. There was quite a bit of information that could have prevented 9/11 that intelligence agency’s had, but they did not share it with each other.
DB, Gwinnettian
May 22nd, 2009
1:49 pm
I had to look up the word “pendantic.”
One who appreciates necklaces?
sane jane
May 22nd, 2009
1:49 pm
Pat, if some Muslim army gained a foothold in, say, Savannah… and insisted on keeping an ongoing presence there (here)… don’t you think Americans might be compelled to pick up arms and fight?
I’m not suggesting people aren’t responsible for their own actions, but I am willing to acknowledge the reasons they fight. It’s not the only reason, but that right there is a big one. We’re not actually entitled to the entire world. (we just behave like it)