Somebody get Harry Reid a stiff drink

From AP:

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama’s allies in the Senate will not provide funds to close the Guantanamo Bay prison until the administration comes up with a satisfactory plan for transferring the detainees held there, top Democrats said Tuesday. And in a further break with Obama, the Senate’s top Democrat said he opposes transferring any Guantanamo prisoners to the United States for their trials or to serve their sentences. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has said 50 to 100 Guantanamo detainees may be transferred to U.S. facilities.

“I can’t make it any more clear,” Reid said. “We will never allow terrorists to be released in the United States.”

Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois said Obama’s plan to close Guantanamo is not dead — only that the funding will have to wait until the administration devises an acceptable plan to handle the closure and transfer the detainees. Obama has promised to close the military prison by January.

“The administration has not come up with a plan at this point,” said Durbin, who is the whip, or No. 2 Democrat in the Senate. He added that Democrats are likely to address the issue on later legislation. “I think Guantanamo should be closed and we have to wait for the president’s direction on what happens to the detainees.”

Durbin said that he could support transferring detainees to U.S. prisons. “Our prisons are filled with dangerous people, including terrorists. And not a single one has escaped,” he said.

That’s a perfectly sensible position. Congress does have the right to know what Obama’s plan is going to be before it approves money for the plan. That’s fine and appropriate.

However, Reid’s stance is more than a little muddled. In its version of the story, Politico noted what it called the Senate majority leader’s “seemingly contradictory comments.”

“Reid said that closing Guantanamo was the right decision but “We will never allow terrorists to be released in the United States.” Asked next, if he could see a day when Guantanamo detainees might be transferred to prisons on American soil, Reid refused to clarify his remarks. “We don’t want them around,” he said.”

Buck up, Harry. Nobody’s talking about releasing terrorists into the U.S. population, and any terrorists sent to mainland U.S. prisons can be held there quite safely. Like I’ve written before, they could put all of ‘em right down the road from my house at the Atlanta Federal Penitentiary, and I wouldn’t lose a second of sleep. If a man’s dangerous, lock him up and keep him there.

However, as the AP story points out, last week the French accepted a detainee released from Gitmo after apparently buying U.S. assurances that the man isn’t a terrorist and doesn’t pose a danger. It’s pretty clear by now that at least some of those at Gitmo weren’t “the worst of the worst,” as Rummie tried to claim. Some of them were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The idea that Americans are too frightened to do what the French have already done…. like I said, buck up, Harry.

79 comments Add your comment

TW

May 19th, 2009
5:42 pm

Send them to Texas. And then build the wall along Texas’ northern border.

‘w’ has made me wish we’d lost the Alamo.

Hillbilly Deluxe

May 19th, 2009
5:51 pm

Harry is talking himself into a corner where it’ll wind up being a power struggle between him and Obama. I’ll put my money on Obama winning that one.

I Report :-) / You Whine :-(

May 19th, 2009
5:52 pm

Cowards-

Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) confirmed the decision, which follows intense pressure from Republicans going into debate over a $91.3 billion wartime spending bill expected to come to the floor late Tuesday.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22677.html#ixzz0FzXzFvSU&B

First sign of pressure the libs caved.

sissies

I Report :-) / You Whine :-(

May 19th, 2009
5:53 pm

The Party of No, Please Don’t Expose Our Ideas To The American Public.

eewwwww

ty webb

May 19th, 2009
5:54 pm

jay,
Better late than never, huh, Jay? Why wasn’t it just a few days ago(may 7) that we had you and many of your followers calling out the cowardice of the GOP for not wanting the Gitmo detainees on US soil. Seems cowardice is a bipartisan trait. Who knew?

Paul

May 19th, 2009
5:55 pm

[[Somebody get Harry Reid a stiff drink]]

It’d have to be a leaded Coke. Harry’s a Mormon, remember?

[[“I can’t make it any more clear,” Reid said. “We will never allow terrorists to be released in the United States.” Buck up, Harry. Nobody’s talking about releasing terrorists into the U.S. population, and any terrorists sent to mainland U.S. prisons can be held there quite safely. Like I’ve written before, they could put all of ‘em right down the road from my house at the Atlanta Federal Penitentiary, and I wouldn’t lose a second of sleep."]]

Well, I must give you credit for consistency whether it’s a Dem or a Rep that says ‘NIMBY.’ I do seem to have the recollection, though, that when the subject first came up it was solely concerning Republicans and ‘fear fear fear.’

So, whadda ya suppose Democrats are afraid of?

Lessee… this makes good commercials…. I know! Having the contributions stop!

Midori

May 19th, 2009
5:58 pm

I say send them here to Georgia.

Maybe Sonny can pray up some shock and awe for them.

RW-(the original)

May 19th, 2009
6:01 pm

Does anybody else wonder why it supposedly takes 80 some odd million dollars to move 250 people in the first place? If I did the math right that’s about $320,000 a person.

I Report :-) / You Whine :-(

May 19th, 2009
6:02 pm

What’s another freak in their hood to the democrats?

md

May 19th, 2009
6:02 pm

It is not politically expedient, nothing more and nothing less.

If one of these guys, and it would only take one, happens to get into the population and hurts someone, their political career is over. The supported it, would be the cry.

And with the wishy washy judges we have today, don’t think for a minute that one can’t be released into society. We “rehab” murderers on a daily basis. Anybody got the stats on how many of them are re-offenders?

Politicians are concerned with politics and re-election. Don’t be silly and think otherwise.

Midori

May 19th, 2009
6:03 pm

your’e right, Andy.

we seem to coexist with you.

Jay

May 19th, 2009
6:05 pm

And folks, I note that on the earlier thread there were complaints about an overly aggressive spam filter. I think you’ve got a point, and I’ve sent a message to that effect internally. I’ve also freed some of the messages in question.

If it happens again, email me at jbookman@ajc.com and let me know. I watch my email even when I can’t monitor the blog, and I’ll try to rescue what I can.

RW-(the original)

May 19th, 2009
6:07 pm

Does Durbin really believe no dangerous person has ever escaped a US prison? How about Ted Bundy for one and I bet we could come up with names all night if we tried.

lwwmm7

May 19th, 2009
6:08 pm

I say turn ‘em loose in Downtown on a Saturday night with a few hundred dollars each and let ‘em take their chances. I’m betting on the thugs.

Paul

May 19th, 2009
6:10 pm

Jay 6:05

Thanks much.

Pleasant evening, all -

I Report :-) / You Whine :-(

May 19th, 2009
6:10 pm

Speaking of freaks, the State of Georgia is fixing to light one off this evening and what bothers me is the lack of whining from the usual suspects at the Urinal. Sure, they launched their typical one sided propaganda piece but why no hysterics from the Tuck Monster?

Is she on board with this or what?

Considering the more guilty they are the louder the Urinal shrieks, this Davis dude most be freaking innocent.

What, did he bad mouth Obozo?

lwwmm7

May 19th, 2009
6:13 pm

And a pleasant evening right back atcha, Paul. Had to check to see if I was on the right blog there for a minute.

joey gee

May 19th, 2009
6:25 pm

harry your full of crap by saying you wont let any of gitmo animals to roam our streets. who put you up to that? putz nobama ?thats what i thought. your just looking for votes and money when your at las vegas.after that you could care less just like commie nobama you shmuck.

lwwmm7

May 19th, 2009
6:28 pm

Maybe we could send them to India to work as customer-care operators for AT&T and other major U.S. companies.

lwwmm7

May 19th, 2009
6:31 pm

Or we could just give them all a 7-11 or a motel to run and let them pay taxes and live the dream.

getalife

May 19th, 2009
6:31 pm

They can’t be tried because they were tortured. obama will probably flip flop on gitmo.

Reid will move more right.

His poll numbers are bad.

lwwmm7

May 19th, 2009
6:34 pm

Maybe they could get jobs as groundskeepers at the Kennedy compound.

getalife

May 19th, 2009
6:37 pm

OK.

You can attack Ted now.

His cancer is in remission and he is back in June.

Full time.

@@

May 19th, 2009
6:38 pm

Just goes to show that dems don’t think ahead or don’t have a head with which to think.

It’s every dem politician for themself from this point forward

or is it backwards?

Stratfor did a piece on Obama’s sit-down with Netanyahu. Summed up Obama pretty well:

Much of his foreign policy follows from the Bush administration. He has made no major breaks in foreign policy beyond rhetoric; his policies on Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Russia and Europe are essentially extensions of pre-existing policy. Obama faces major economic problems in the United States and clearly is not looking for major changes in foreign policy. He understands how quickly public sentiment can change, and he does not plan to take risks he does not have to take right now.

Public sentiment? It must be painful for the uber-leftists to find out that Obama doesn’t consider them part of the American public. Pithing them off puts him at no risk.

Bush III. Oh, and…

So the peace process will continue, no one will expect anything from it, the Palestinians will remain isolated and wars regularly will break out.

Hope and ?

Right back at square one with no intentions of moving forward.

Well there is that Af/Pak thangy.

John

May 19th, 2009
6:38 pm

TW:
The Alamo was a battle in the Texan’s war of independence (or insurrection depending on your viewpoint) and we did lose it. Your comment makes me wish you had an education.

garrat77

May 19th, 2009
6:45 pm

It always amazes me how stupid politicians can be does reid think a transfer from one prison to another means dropping them in the center of town how the hell did this get elected

Bud Wiser

May 19th, 2009
6:51 pm

More flip-flop for Obozo.

Gas mileage standards for new cars and trucks that will in all likelihood break the back out of the industry and we’ll all be buying Japanese and German cars from now on…..didn’t we beat those two in the Big One?

Oh, and since Obozo is on the track to kill American automakers (as well as depriving all Americans of the choice of whether or not we want to drive a gas hog), then why is he dumping so much of OUR money into an industry he is trying to kill?

Maybe he wants to divert attention from not getting the dough to close Gitmo….or could it be to divert attention from changing his mind on releasing the photos….or is it diverting attention from the AF One flyover of New York (wait, the ignorant publicly educated sweaty masses have already forgotten that one)….or all of the tax cheats he appointend (ditto the forgot already)…or Pelosi.

Anyone see a pattern here?

Incompetence?

Incontinence?

Stupidity?

Dopes with chains?

Send Harry to Teddy Kennedy for counselling on the drinking thing.

I Report :-) / You Whine :-(

May 19th, 2009
6:59 pm

Damn, even Freakofornia has hope-

California voters were on Tuesday expected to reject a series of special ballot measures aimed at addressing a widening state budget deficit in a blow to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

When you libs lose Kalifornia you lost, eewwww

@@

May 19th, 2009
7:48 pm

Joe Biden @ Wake Forest — “There’s not a single issue on this President’s plate that will not yield a change — just merely by ignoring it, it will change.”

Okey Dokey, Joe.

Mrs. Godzilla

May 19th, 2009
7:49 pm

GMan

May 19th, 2009
7:51 pm

All you redneck, teabaggin’, butt-wipes have a pleasant evening!

Redneck Convert

May 19th, 2009
8:27 pm

Well, I just got home from having three or six or nine PBRs at Billy Bob’s, and all I got to say is, don’t you people ever take a break from blogging?

Anyhow, I got my anti-tank weapon and my two machine guns that I use for hunting and self defense. I say bring on these Terrists. Let’s just say they’ll weigh alot more when I’m finished with them than they did before they got to Simpsons Trailer Park.

Have a good night everybody and go to bed. And tell that guy that wants us redneck teabaggin butt-wipes to have a good evening I might could have a few rounds for him too.

Ray

May 19th, 2009
8:39 pm

GMan,

We have missed you, sort like athlete’s foot. You are indeed the gift that keeps on giving.

getalife

May 19th, 2009
8:55 pm

“When vice president wasn’t in the bunker, Mayer claims that “a sense of constant danger followed Cheney everywhere.” The route was altered daily during the veep’s commute to his above-ground office. On the back seat next to him would be a duffel bag stuffed with a gas mask and biochemical survival suit. And a doctor nearly always traveled with him, “The Dark Side” claims”

Poor dick lost it after 9/11.

georgian by birth floridian because I'm lucky

May 19th, 2009
8:56 pm

getlife,

would like to say congrats.

You are a half empty glass kinda person, but you do speak what you believe is truth, you do not allow your ideals or politics get in the way of your judgement.

On here that certainly seperates you from many, if not all.

TW

May 19th, 2009
9:02 pm

“TW:
The Alamo was a battle in the Texan’s war of independence (or insurrection depending on your viewpoint) and we did lose it. Your comment makes me wish you had an education.”

Nope. If my GOP friends are going to say that we beat bin laden, then we might as well say we won the Alamo, too.

Thanks for playing, John :)

georgian by birth floridian because I'm lucky

May 19th, 2009
9:08 pm

who has said we beat bin laden?

I have seen some wacko’s but never any said anything like that.

But smooth cover up for your historical perspective. Blame others for your ignorance much. :)

I Report :-) / You Whine :-(

May 19th, 2009
9:11 pm

I’ve been careful not to hit them with a jinx but right now it looks like they could use all the help they can get-

Let’s go Blackhawks, let’s go!

Come on!

getalife

May 19th, 2009
9:13 pm

georgian by birth floridian because I’m lucky ,

I am an Independent that does not blindly trust our corrupt parties and have no ideology .

Dallas Bentley

May 19th, 2009
9:14 pm

Wow. Les françaises took one. Nice gesture. That’s all they are obligated to accept though.

I’m all for putting your “concrete-lined tax payer-funded hovels” where your mouths are. Overseas, people are hesitant to dare chip Obama’s golden halo, but when it comes to actually following through, the Senate donkeys and elephants are both scared of the same mouse.

It’s always the same story. Cowards with too many speech writers who are furiously scribbling to stay out of the private sector. Maybe not cowards. That’s too harsh. Perhaps we should call them ‘counselor’ and whatever three years will buy you.

I Report :-) / You Whine :-(

May 19th, 2009
9:22 pm

Hey, what ever happened to blowing up your tires?

Did the little tard MoveOn to his next bright idea?

the bull god

May 19th, 2009
9:22 pm

impeach pelosi now!

eagle scout

May 19th, 2009
9:55 pm

Bull Dog … How does one impeach a congresswoman .. The answer you don’t!!!! Geez, another clueless twit!!!!

the bull god

May 19th, 2009
10:12 pm

chill es ‘e. inside joke.

Bosch

May 19th, 2009
10:42 pm

I have come to the conclusion that Fareed Zakaria and Peter Bergen are the two smartest people in the world right now. I just saw them on CNN and everytime I see those two I think, “Yeah, they know what they are talking about.”

Bosch

May 19th, 2009
10:45 pm

And yeah, if I need to be of service, I can certainly get Harry drunk. What’s wrong with these whackos – they’ve let the GOP convince them the Gitmo boogeymen are gonna get us all. What loonies.

the bull god

May 19th, 2009
10:51 pm

bosch, if you’re 3 fingers+, you need to stop thinking.

Bosch

May 19th, 2009
10:56 pm

the bull god (?) – Wow over the years the names I’ve typed:

I never stop thinking. It’s a curse. It’s called ADD. I’m not saying what I think is all that great, but my brain never stops. It’s like a buzzing thing, constantly.

Okay, back to the Gitmo guys. Okay, say we separate them all and put them into custody within the U.S. – on the off chance one, two escape. There first most thought is going to be getting something to eat, not forming an elaborate plot to blow up the town/neighborhood they are in, and ruling/ruining the world and cashing in on their 72 virgins – they’re gonna want some hummus and pita bread with some good olives – let’s stake out the Publix. Come on, let’s be pragmatic here.

TnGelding

May 19th, 2009
11:02 pm

Battle fatigue is sitting in.

Pelosi and Reid should have been replaced with the new Congress. Obama needs yung turks to shepherd his agenda, not that I agree with all of it. Much ado about nothing.

I Report :-) / You Whine :-(

May 19th, 2009
9:22 pm

I’m going to be offering free air at my neighborhood Citgo. Keeping your tires properly inflated is very important for safety, tire wear and gas mileage.

bull god

May 19th, 2009
11:19 pm

k, back to gitmo boys.

put them in general population of the fed pen (next american idol).

have you ever been to jail bosch?

AmVet

May 20th, 2009
12:01 am

I remember when four fingers used to cost $20. But it wasn’t as good as it is now. The new-age Ronnies and Eddies are all freaked out, because the strains are so good. I was reading about the feds stash at the Univ. of Miss recently.

How dumb is this?

We allow and even promote alcohol. Which is the only product once Constitutionally banned and then Constitutionally unbanned. And cigarettes, which is I believe the only product sold, that when used as advertised kills you.

And yet the prudes and puritans in this country are still strong enough to convince people that smoking grass – which is the one thing that really helps dying people in distress and who are suffering, but who will also get high, as though that were a sin and a big problem in this context – is evil.

And its grows in the wild.

NO.

As a truly modern, corporate-dominated culture, we are led to believe we need some pill(s) made in some pharmacy that don’t work the same, or as well, the R&D of which, was probably given away so that somebody could make a boatload of money off of us suckers, we the people.

And its all “legal” and weed isn’t.

And the reality is that when used properly it can be very useful. This is not the 60s or 70s. Nobody I know of advocates renewed widespread drug experimentation. I’m referring to one “drug” only.

And as non-laissez-faire capitalist I believe it could be regulated and controlled. Therefore obtained and used legally. Then the criminal, black market element has a vested competitor.

Criminalizing innocent use of it is Orwellian. Our prisons are bursting at the seems. With the wrong people. But that’s a different matter…

Lil' Barry Bailout

May 20th, 2009
3:13 am

Long story short: Guantanamo Bay is still open for business, as is Bagram Air Base. Lil’ Barry Bailout is too much of a do-nothing coward to keep his campaign promise and close it. Justice delayed is justice denied, no?

Lil’ Barry Bailout: All talk.

I Report :-) / You Whine :-(

May 20th, 2009
5:22 am

I have no idea what the Tuck Monster is trying to say this morning and I’m pretty sure neither does she.

It must be tough to write random Obozo cheer leading pieces, 2000 word listless soliloquies of sycophantism, especially when he’s attacking scatter shot across the United States economy, you just kinda babble on the same general subject, right, QP?

Johnson was stunned to be penalized for patronizing places that deadbeats also like. He told Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter Carrie Teegardin, “I understand the need for … predictive analytics. But I think they have crossed the line.”

Maybe today he’ll decide heed likes to own a “news” paper, who knows?

Lee

May 20th, 2009
5:56 am

Dems and Reps both have it wrong here. The question isn’t about closing Guantanamo Bay and what to do about the current crop of “detainees.” No, the real question is why we Americans are allowing the incarceration of political prisoners.

Put them in a jail on US soil? It would be a matter of time before someone petitions a judge to let them out. That due process thing and all.

What to do with Guantanamo Bay? Open up bids to Holiday Inn, Harrah’s Casino, et al. They’ll know what to do with all those miles of ocean front property on a Carribean island.

And it won’t cost the taxpayers millions to get rid of it.

clyde

May 20th, 2009
6:15 am

AmVet,
Smoking grass apparently isn’t as harmless as it SEEMS.

Andy rules Jay

May 20th, 2009
6:33 am

“Hey, what ever happened to blowing up your tires?

Did the little tard MoveOn to his next bright idea?”

Speaking of tards and lack of brightness, here’s Andy…

I was unaware that “maintaining the proper tire pressure will increase mileage and tire wear” was in reality an Obama confab meant to redistribute the air pressure from those who have lots of air pressure (Andy the teabagger) to those without…

What else will we learn from Andy???? That “you better not go out without a jacket or you’ll catch your death of cold” is also an Obama confab???

The things you can learn from conservative trolls… this stuff should be on TV.

ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

Andy rules Jay

May 20th, 2009
6:40 am

OMG… did a wing nut here actually postulate that a terrerist could possibly escape, if sent to the mainland, and plot to blow up a town???

Ya, a goatherder from Afghanistan is going to escape a us prison and have the wherewithall to acquire explosives in the continental US and know enough about our culture and ANY area he’s in to be able to scheme this through to the bitter end…

WOW! What a scary place wingbutternuts live in, I’m glad I’m not there… I wonder if it’s Dick’s bunker…

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Andy rules Jay

May 20th, 2009
6:44 am

It’s not like Gitmo is full of rightwing nutbag murderers like eric rudolph, david koresh or timothy mcveigh, who actually knew they lay of the land, had help and still got caught…

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

I Report/ You Whine

May 20th, 2009
7:02 am

This immediately shifts health care power to workers and patients, who would be the ones making health insurance choices rather than employers. All consumers would be free to choose from the full range of coverage alternatives available in the marketplace, from Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) to Health Maintenance Organizations (HMOs) to standard fee-for-service coverage with different health provider network arrangements. The consumer could choose coverage options with maximum choice of doctors and hospitals and alternative treatments and care, like HSAs, or could choose coverage where the insurer takes responsibility for managing health care in return for lower premiums, like HMOs. Workers can take the health insurance they choose with them when they change jobs, as this new system makes such insurance fully portable.-AmSpec

No, that is not Obozo’s post office style health care plan, it’s the Republican alternative, a perfectly sensible concept that pays for EVERYONES insurance and leaves the choices up to you.

So now watch the holeshot democrats whine and moan because it doesn’t give the money to………..them.

eewwww

Ken

May 20th, 2009
7:32 am

Put them in congress. They could represent California, New york and New Jersey. At least we would get some honest ideas. LOL

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

May 20th, 2009
7:33 am

Look we have the most inexperienced and callow president ever. He ran a campaign “against Bush”, but never really thought through the issues beyond standard liberal dogma. He thought the Europeans would how him lover and take a few Gitmo prisoners, but Eurpoe just laughed in his face in a way it never would have done to President Bush. President Bush did want Gitmo, there were no other acceptable alternatives and now Chocolate Blunder has found it out, too. This is just the first of many revolts Chocolate Blunder will face as ill-conceived campaign promises run ionto the reality of Governing. Thankfully, we are now down to 3 years and 8 months left until Jindahl/Plain brings change that makes sense.

Taxpayer

May 20th, 2009
7:59 am

DB, Gwinnettian

May 20th, 2009
8:02 am

Not “Give ‘em Head, Harry” Reid’s finest TeeVee moment, to be sure.

DB, Gwinnettian

May 20th, 2009
8:03 am

Jindahl/Plain brings change

Finally, an online conservative willing to acknowledge what most of us already knew: Sarah really isn’t all that hawt.

DB, Gwinnettian

May 20th, 2009
8:06 am

Ya, a goatherder from Afghanistan is going to escape a us prison and have the wherewithall to acquire explosives in the continental US and know enough about our culture and ANY area he’s in to be able to scheme this through to the bitter end…

As opposed to any other al-Qaida trained goatherder who isn’t being held in a Supermax facility, with similar objectives, at any given moment.

Stupidest. Issue. Evah.

Road Scholar

May 20th, 2009
8:22 am

Budwiser @ 6:51: “Gas mileage standards for new cars and trucks that will in all likelihood break the back out of the industry and we’ll all be buying Japanese and German cars from now on…..didn’t we beat those two in the Big One?”

“Break the back”? What planet do you live on? The Europeans and Asians have already passed us in auto technology and quality of product! Unless size , weight and inefficiency are your desired traits for a car. Asia already is marketing an electric car that gets about 250 miles /charge. A european is proposing a $50,000 electric car that can easily run on our highways and gets great distances between charges; they presently have a $100K vehicle that can do this. And what does the USA have? They trashed the electric car back in the 90’s (What ever happened to the electric car movie).
Also, the US auto makers need to reduce the number of “redundant” design vehicles and brands to focus on quality and efficiency.

As for the detainees, try them already. It’s been years since most were arrested. Use the military tribunals and weed out those who should be executed, held in prison, or set free.

DB, Gwinnettian

May 20th, 2009
8:27 am

wow, Taxpayer.

That slideshow you’ve linked @ 7.59 is so depressing it’d make Mister Rogers want to eat a Glock.

Copyleft

May 20th, 2009
8:33 am

Harry is right: We won’t be releasing terrorists into the United States.

Now, what does that have to do with Guantanamo?

Bosch

May 20th, 2009
8:36 am

Andy rules Jay @ 6:40

That’s what I was postulating last night @ 10:56.

It’s not like an escapee is gonna break out of jail, run to the nearest bomb store and blow up a shopping center. Now, if that shopping center has a Publix, they might stop off for some hummus and pita.

Let’s get real people. This ain’t “24.”

Bosch

May 20th, 2009
8:37 am

Again, this is all political people – I guess the Dems in Congress are refusing to let Obama play with their football – so their huffing and puffing.

Paul

May 20th, 2009
8:47 am

6:40 am

[[a goatherder from Afghanistan is going to escape a us prison and have the wherewithall to]]

Bigotry’s still alive and well on the Liberal Left.

On topic: wasn’t it a short time ago, under the previous administration, Democrats were introducing legislation to close Gitmo, calling it a ’stain’ on the US’s position in the world, calling it a gulag. etc etc etc?

So we have what appears to be a pattern, from this and other issues: take a high moral position to blast the Bush Administration and Republicans, then get in power and… abandon the position and backtrack, all the while blaming it on Republicans.

It’s getting predictably tiresome.

Paul

May 20th, 2009
8:49 am

CopyLeft

The terrorists are at Gitmo. The Pres and Democrats have called for closing Gitmo.

If the prison is closed, the inmates have to go somewhere.

Democrats don’t want them in the US but have no idea where else to send them.

So they won’t close Gitmo.

Mac

May 20th, 2009
10:04 am

Send them to Yucca Mountain.

Copyleft

May 20th, 2009
10:34 am

Paul, you’re usually more lucid than this.

“CopyLeft

“The terrorists are at Gitmo.”

No, they aren’t. Some SUSPECTS are at Gitmo.

“If the prison is closed, the inmates have to go somewhere.”

Correct; they go to another prison. What does that have to do with “releasing them in America,” as Harry claimed?

Whiner is the Coward

May 20th, 2009
10:40 am

What gall to call Senator Inouye a “coward.” Please do some research and learn what this man did in WWII to earn the Medal of Honor.

md

May 20th, 2009
12:01 pm

Correct; they go to another prison. What does that have to do with “releasing them in America,” as Harry claimed?

At some point the odds are they will get out. Then what?

Copyleft

May 20th, 2009
3:07 pm

“At some point, the odds are they’ll get out”

REALLY? So the sentence for acts of terrorism is now 5-10 years, less with good behavior? This is earthshaking news, not to mention great tidings for all those life-without-parole convicts who only killed somebody.

Of course, plenty of detainees have ALREADY been released… but that’s because they didn’t actually do anything. MD, do you have a problem with innocent people being released from prison?

Or do you just assume that they’re all Moriarty-level criminal masterminds who will escape our flimsy, baling-wire-and-fencepost prisons. Oh, wait–that’s where they’re being held NOW. Number of escapes: zero.

So, again: What’s the problem here? If they’re imprisoned, they’re no threat. If they’re released, it’s because they’re innocent, or because they’ve served a sentence appropriate to their offense. I’m not really seeing the flaw in these basic principles of American justice.

md

May 21st, 2009
7:54 am

I have no problem releasing them, but think they should be released in the exact spot they were picked up. Then they can carry on accordingly.

Christopher Wing

May 21st, 2009
7:17 pm

I still haven’t seen proof that anyone at Gitmo deserves to be there. Weren’t most of these folks brought in by warlords for a bounty?