Keeping a cool head in fevered times

From The Washington Post:

“Nearly 300 schools nationwide have shuttered as education and health officials take precautions to avoid the spread of swine flu, the U.S. Education Department reported today.

As of yesterday at noon, the department had counted about 100 school closures. ….

The Fort Worth, Tex., school system closed its 80,000-student district for 10 days after confirmation of one case of swine flu at one campus and the announcement that there are probable cases at three other schools. In New York, where several schools have been hit by outbreaks, such decisions have been handled individually at the schools.

In Maryland, schools in Anne Arundel and Baltimore counties with probable flu cases have remained open under advice from health officials.”

At first glance, that all seems a bit excessive. But according to the Post, the U.S. Department of Education is advising that “schools should strongly consider closing if a student or employee is confirmed to have the flu, if there is a suspected case linked to a confirmed case or if there is a confirmed case in the community.”

With advice like that from people who are supposed to know, I guess I’d close school too if I had a case in my school community.

And then, of course, there’s America’s crazy uncle, Joe Biden, who this morning on “Today” went a bit over the top.

“I would tell members of my family — and I have — I wouldn’t go anywhere in confined places now,” Biden said. “It’s not that it’s going to Mexico. It’s you’re in a confined aircraft. When one person sneezes, it goes all the way through the aircraft.” Biden went on to say he wouldn’t suggest that they ride the subway either.

That is emphatically NOT what the experts are advising. The White House tried to deny Biden said what he said, before eventually throwing up their hands and admitting it was just Uncle Joe being Uncle Joe again. You know how he gets.

Others have gotten the bug as well — the overreaction bug, not the flu bug. U.S. Sen. John McCain, for example, says he continues to believe “that all available options to end this crisis must remain under consideration, including closing the border if it would prevent further transmission of this deadly virus.”

Again, that’s emphatically not what the experts are advising, and it surely would not “end this crisis,” as McCain put it. Nothing government or anybody else can do will end this crisis. It’ll just have to play out. We have to control the fever, both literally and metaphorically.

64 comments Add your comment

Redneck Convert

April 30th, 2009
6:26 pm

If GA closes the schools can I get my taxes back? I could sure use that 50 bucks, and besides us Republicans ain’t big on education to start with. People can teach their own kids about adding and subtracting and the gizzard and such.

Hillbilly Deluxe

April 30th, 2009
6:27 pm

Hopefully people who are in control on the local level will keep a clear head. They are the ones who are really on the front lines in this.

Kamchak

April 30th, 2009
6:27 pm

This is a post 9/11 world. Eight years of 24/7 fear mongering by corporate media machines looking for ratings. Not surprising.

ty webb

April 30th, 2009
6:35 pm

Sad thing is, the kids that attend these closed schools have probably learned as much, if not more, today by staying home.

TnGelding

April 30th, 2009
6:36 pm

Uncle Joe gave some good advice, for any time. The air quality on planes is notorously bad and needs to be improved. Most of us can stay home and not be missed that much, and reduce the risk of making it worse. This, just as the economy was showing a glimmer of hope. But so far the boys on Wall Street don’t seem to be concerned.

The border with Mexico needs to be tightened anyway, but don’t stop eating pork.

I Report/ You Whine

April 30th, 2009
6:43 pm

That is emphatically NOT what the experts are advising. The White House tried to deny Biden said what he said, before eventually throwing up their hands and admitting it was just Uncle Joe being Uncle Joe again. You know how he gets.

Yeah, it’s not like he has major responsibilities and we should all be worried, of course not.

(So why did bookman freak out over Palin, ~~~~~~~~vice presidential~~~~~~~~~ candidate.)

Nothing government or anybody else can do will end this crisis.

Uh huh, almost like the climate or a hurricane or flimsily built levees in a democrat run city.

Boy, isn’t bookman a stooge for Obozo?

I Report/ You Whine

April 30th, 2009
6:50 pm

The way the Urinal is shrinking in size, I figure it will be about 3 more months before it is small enough to fit on the bookshelf in the fiction section where it belongs.

Who knows, sales might just pick up then.

ray

April 30th, 2009
6:51 pm

my neighbors ‘homeschool’ their 2 teenage boys. they actually got about $3500 of my tax money, thanks to bush, so they could buy the boys a huge plasma. now they have something into which they can plug their x-box while they sit at home all day smoking pot and ‘homeschooling.’ one of the ‘boys’ is now actually 19, and ‘thinking’ about a ged. every other teen in the whole freaking neighborhood has graduated from the public hs and gone off to college. puzzling, being that public school is supposedly so bad.

Taxpayer

April 30th, 2009
7:01 pm

A word of caution. If Andy’s rants start to make ’sense’, seek medical help, fast.

Kamchak

April 30th, 2009
7:09 pm

I imagine the ad rates on this site are determined by number of posts. For all your whining about the AJC, you single-handed, just by the shear volume you post, are helping to keep this institution current and relevant–twenty first century style. Talk about irony.

N.J,

April 30th, 2009
7:16 pm

And of course, a Georgia School tossed a kid out for coming to school with a flu mask today.

I love all that tighten up the border stuff though. A real racist trip,
I love listening to all the exagerated numbers about how many illegal Mexicans are here, anything from 13 million to 35.5 million (some right wing jerk read the total population of citizens of Mexican heritage and assumed that they were all illegal) Best figures the department of homeland secutity has for Mexican illegals is 6.5 million, with another six million from every other continent on the planet. One out of three illegals pays taxes, which means what they are doing is supporting their families and paying taxes. Most ILLEGALS pay MORE in taxes than the people who are bitching about illegals because most illegals dont file taxes take deductions for their dependent. In fact most GAYS pay more in taxes than the average member of the family values crowd because they dont get deductions either. The religious right with the families usually do not end up paying a red cent in taxes because of the vast amount of deductions they get to take for dependents, mortgage deductions and so on. The highest rate that the wealthiest Americans pay on their income after deductions is 23 percent. The average family pays much less, because they dont pay taxes on their entire income. They take a rather great deal of deductions.

I Report/ You Whine

April 30th, 2009
7:18 pm

UpChuck- A million dollar a week cash burn for an Obozo goony propaganda rag, why, pray tell, would I want them to fail?

Let’s find out how much money they have, shall we?

N.J,

April 30th, 2009
7:20 pm

I thought the most interesting recommendation was “to stay home if you are sick”. Not many people in Washington realize the stark terror most workers have over the idea of telling their boss they have to stay home sick for fear of being fired.

Susan Myers

April 30th, 2009
7:25 pm

Kamchak

April 30th, 2009
7:29 pm

Monk does more than Andy can,
To elevate the soul of man.

Hillbilly Deluxe

April 30th, 2009
7:33 pm

Tn Gelding @6:36

The day I stop eating pork is the day they throw cold dirt on my face.

Susan Myers

April 30th, 2009
7:33 pm

This is a good web site to keep track of what is happening with this virus:

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/en/

Susan Myers

April 30th, 2009
7:34 pm

Hand washing and accessible and affordable health care are good defenses against the flu.

Midori

April 30th, 2009
7:44 pm

Taxpayer,

as if they ever made sense?

that guy is one can short of a six pack.

N.J,

April 30th, 2009
7:48 pm

Perfect Susan.

catlady

April 30th, 2009
7:49 pm

Our school has studiously kept sick, feverish kids at school for the last several years. All in the name of making AYP for NCLB! Our nurse says she will lose her job if she sends anyone home with a fever under 102. Does anyone believe that? And if they vomit, but she doesn’t see the vomitus, they stay. She just doses them up with a fever reducer or gives them a mint and sends them back to spread their pestilence around. With class changes, even more are exposed, not to mention the vector of the school buses.

Nearly 20% of our students have frequent contact with family members who travel over the border from time to time. We have kids on TB meds as well. (Scary but true: a large number of the workers at the local chicken gutting plant are also on meds for TB. They have a person from the health dept who oversees their meds. Fried chicken, anyone?)

So we have a school full of feverish, coughing, or retching kids who then make their classmates and teachers sick. I’ve been made sick by kids too sick to be at school more times than I can count, since they get sent back to my room instead of kept with the nurse. I grind my teeth when I hear parents say they “have to work”. Well, so do I. Taking care of your sick kids at the expense of my health and those of their classmates is not right, so that you can “work.”

When my kids were sick I stayed home with them, foregoing thousands of dollars of pay over the years. It was the moral thing to do. Not only right for them, but right for the other humans they were around.

And now, as noted above, employers are putting more pressure on the workers not to miss or they will be “let go” for absenteeism. Teachers are hassled about this, too. Meanwhile the viral load at school is tremendous. I hate to touch anything, and I am NOt a germophobe.

Our system sent out the letter from the CDC today, but I had to laugh at the part about keeping your sick kids home. If the illness is not quickly contained, we are all doomed to get it through the schools.

Susan Myers

April 30th, 2009
7:51 pm

Don’t knock it!

http://www.helium.com/items/1198750-avoid-getting-sick-from-flying

What Vice President Biden said may not have been good politics, but it was good advice. Give the guy a break and pay attention.

Bumpkin from Lumpkin

April 30th, 2009
7:57 pm

We as a country love drama too much. God forgid our nightly news not have a new crisis to report.

As far as Joe Biden goes, I find it funny how we’ve got the polar opposite from the past two “leaders”. Now we’ve got a fairly smart President, and a ‘tard for VP.

Bumpkin from Lumpkin

April 30th, 2009
8:01 pm

Duhhhh for me…God FORBID our nightly news not have some crisis to report and exploit every night of the week….

I Report/ You Whine

April 30th, 2009
8:09 pm

Now we’ve got a fairly smart President

Yes, the myths that the pinko media do createth, check out the last thread, where one can look and plainly see a homely looking All Pro Linebacker, the lib media tells you to see beauty.

And then we have our Teleprompter dependent wonder dunce who the media sayeth is “smart.”

See our pattern?

It’s getting “hotter” out even though it is snowing in April.

Humans “evolved” from pond scum even though the pond scum had to be created. From nothing.

Oh, what a tangled web we weave.

md

April 30th, 2009
8:09 pm

Research what the “experts” originally said about the aids virus, and one might do well to think for themselves. They were wrong then and no ones knows if they are right or wrong now.

Pick your poison.

GOP is gone

April 30th, 2009
8:11 pm

It is really simple folks, wash your hands for 20 seconds, use hand sanitizer after touching door knobs, light switches, shopping carts etc.
Do what your mother taught you, cover your mouth when you cough.
Geez hundreds of people die from the flu every year without wide spread panic.

GOP is gone

April 30th, 2009
8:16 pm

catlady,

If you think school is bad try doing a shift in the ER. The good news is I have become immune to everything over the years. I cannot remember the last time I even had a cold.

Frederick Douglass

April 30th, 2009
8:17 pm

Well at least the guy can read a Teleprompter. If memory serves me, the last guy that disgraced the Oval office, was a functional illiterate.

Midori

April 30th, 2009
8:17 pm

DebbieDoRight

April 30th, 2009
8:41 pm

The day I stop eating pork is the day they throw cold dirt on my face.

LOL!!! That’s why you don’t see too many converted Muslims in the South — we’d rather be atheists then give up pork chops, pork ribs, and stuffed pork tenderloin!!! :lol:

getalife

April 30th, 2009
8:49 pm

Banks Beat Homeowners: Foreclosure Bill Killed In Senate

Durbin is right.

The banks own the politicians.

AmVet

April 30th, 2009
8:49 pm

The American Talibaptists. If they could get their way, they’d be the American Taliban…

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The more often Americans go to church, the more likely they are to support the torture of suspected terrorists, according to a new survey.

More than half of people who attend services at least once a week — 54 percent — said the use of torture against suspected terrorists is “often” or “sometimes” justified. Only 42 percent of people who “seldom or never” go to services agreed, according the analysis released Wednesday by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life.

White evangelical Protestants were the religious group most likely to say torture is often or sometimes justified — more than six in 10 supported it. People unaffiliated with any religious organization were least likely to back it. Only four in 10 of them did.

TW

April 30th, 2009
8:55 pm

Good stuff, AmVet. Southerners don’t exactly go to church and stock firearms because they are secure individuals. And we all know what fear does to one’s ability to think rationally.

I Report/ You Whine

April 30th, 2009
8:57 pm

Well, if churchgoers support “torture” that settles it for me.

Quick, let’s stick some raghead under the faucet.

AmVet

April 30th, 2009
9:04 pm

TW,

There is nothing more repulsive than the Murderers for Jesus Club.

The “churchgoers” can no longer get away with lynching THOSE people. Or the Jews.

But they can sure hate with the worst of mankind.

And I still predict that some delusional southern white baptist male is gonna try a James Earl Ray within Obama’s first term.

There are some here that would probably love to get off a clean shot…

I Report/ You Whine

April 30th, 2009
9:12 pm

Yes, “waterboarding” is such a terrible and debilitating “torture” taht it ruins people’s lives and makes them forever more useless and feeble, blah, blah, blah-

Khalid Sheik Mohhamed explained he believes only in religious “Sharia” law and railed against U.S. President George W. Bush for waging a “crusade war”. When judge warned Mohammed that he faces execution if convicted of organizing the attacks on America, Mohammed said he welcomes the death penalty. “Yes, this is what I wish, to be a martyr for a long time,” Mohammed declared. “I will, God willing, have this, by you.”

“Glaring and poking an occasional finger in the air,” Mohammed told Kohlmann, “The government considers all of us fanatical extremists,” and asked, “How can you, as an officer of the US Marine Corps, stand over me in judgment?”

Here’s a caterpillar for you, POS.

I weep, really, I weep for him.

Red Foreman

April 30th, 2009
9:22 pm

Again Jay….From the Washington Times…you need to get to work and write about something original…like how Sarah Palin is HOT…Tard!!!!

Susan Myers

April 30th, 2009
9:51 pm

AmVet @ 9:04

-And I still predict that some delusional southern white baptist male is gonna try a James Earl Ray within Obama’s first term.-

I fear you are correct. There’s lots of them out there.

Midori

April 30th, 2009
9:58 pm

Susan Myers

April 30th, 2009
10:00 pm

Midori,

A GWB appointee. Good news.

TW

April 30th, 2009
10:01 pm

AmVet – while It would be devastating, I will not give the bully the satisfaction of thinking I fear anything about him. Those who truly believe, believe that good beats evil.

And that is what’s being done.

Susan Myers

April 30th, 2009
10:02 pm

Correction: GHWB appointee.

ty webb

April 30th, 2009
10:05 pm

Amvet,
I took you as one of those who think the CIA was behind the MLK assasination.

Susan Myers

April 30th, 2009
10:19 pm

Would love to see Deval Patrick on the SC.

AmVet

April 30th, 2009
10:28 pm

The spirit of Torquemada and the tradition of the Spanish Inquisition lives on in “conservative” Dixie.

It is to me, exceptionally interesting that the worst of these christo-fascists tried to claim the high moral ground in this country for the past forty years or so.

As well as the sole province of patriotism and all things pure and proper.

Of course, anybody with their eyes open, and their mind engaged, could see it was a charade.

But now the most desperate and dispirited of these “churchgoers” seem to actually relish in giving up the ruse and taking the low moral ground. And in some cases as TW correctly notes, the most evil.

ty, What an odd thing to think or say. Clearly your presumptions need much work.

And no, I was not the second gunman on the grassy knoll either.

Long day. Off to see the sandman in preparation for another one tomorrow.

Tom

May 1st, 2009
12:16 am

Biden is 100% correct. Staying away from crowds and public transportation, if possible, is a must for those truly interested in self=preservation. Obviously we cannot all do that. But one can make significant progress in trying. Intellectual people with compromised immune systems know this already and practice it. Most who fail to heed this warning are no longer around. My own twin sons were diagnosed w a rare Leukemia 20 years ago.
And given a very short lease on life. What could they “do” to better their survival rates?? Cut back as much as possible from being w the rancid masses. Limit air travel, stay out of restaurants, theaters, predictably crowded places where at ANY time of year 50% of people carry a virus. One twin chose to ignore all this medical advice. “The hell with it. I’m not gonna worry!” He was dead in 3 years. An opportunistic viral infection.
The other twin lives a VERY active life in most every way. Just pretty much avoids the needless crowds above. Hardly a steep price to pay! Has had 7 URIs in 20 years, 6 of which have hospitalized him in grave condition. But pulled thru. So it is that you ignore sound advice, per Biden, at your own ignorant peril.

Bud Wiser

May 1st, 2009
6:22 am

Certain idiot’s anti-religion ramblings flow like gooey spittle from the moron’s mouth. I’m not sure of the mental patient’s point, but if you other idiots continue to ’speculate’ on who is going to take the first pop at PLOTUS, government internet spy and tracking agencies just might come knocking on your door very soon.

The Voice

May 1st, 2009
6:31 am

You guys can’t start bloggin’ yet. Mrs Godzilla is not here to tell us what a bunch of morons we all are……I guess she is outside changing her oil.

Bud Wiser

May 1st, 2009
6:40 am

Oh, and since you Georgia “educated” tools do not really know any better, then before you open your yaps about unclean air on modern jet aircraft, why don’t you take a little time to read about it first, before saying what you say and proving just how stupid you really are…..

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/cabinair/ecs.pdf

And since you brought up the subject of unclean air, when BO gets kicked out of the White House, how long do you think it will take to get the smell out….of cigarette smoke?

Little wonder he is pushing universal health care; he’s out to make sure all of the morons like him that continue to smoke will be paid for when they go in for those pesky cancerous lung removals. Add the 20 million or so illegals (not 4-6 million like some idiot said recently – even Hillary and Nancy say there are this many) looking feverishly for their democrat party and Medicare registration sites, and there is simply not enough money to pay for all of this.

But of course those of us with functional brains knew this.

And, it explains why the dems are so behind it – lack of intelligence appears on many levels in society. The fools behind this PLOTUS are like the rats following the Pied Piper, and since many of them probably carry as many diseases as the rats, they too support universal health care (UHC).

UHC. like abortion, is just another attempted correction for the left to make the government accommodate and allow them to continue their own lack of self control and lifestyle choices.

Taxpayer

May 1st, 2009
6:58 am

I see Newt has finally admitted that his party leaders, him once being one of them, are a bunch of spoiled old cry babies that just insist on getting their way on everything. Well, Duhhhh. That’s what makes them the representative cross-section of the GOP.

AmVet

May 1st, 2009
7:24 am

No worries, paranoid Wiper.

Your secret’s safe with me.

catlady

May 1st, 2009
7:34 am

GOP is gone: I work with 150 kids a day. I am around the “products” of over 600. Have done this 37 years, but I still get sick several times a year. Hard to miss it when they sneeze, cough, and vomit in your face. I am sure I am more immune than I used to be, but good grief! Don’t send your kid to school with a fever that you have Tylenoled into submission! The infectuous process is still going on! Love your kid (if not the rest of us) enough to take care of them!

Susan Myers

May 1st, 2009
7:34 am

Is this thing on?!

Why is stupid Egypt killing all the pigs?

jon

May 1st, 2009
7:45 am

“And I still predict that some delusional southern white baptist male is gonna try a James Earl Ray within Obama’s first term”

And I predict some delusional middle eastern Arab subscriber to the peaceful Muslim religion will try to kill thousands of Americans and even try to crash a jet liner into the White House or Capital Building. Oh wait, they’ve already done that and it was all our fault.

AmVet

May 1st, 2009
7:48 am

Hey jon!

I left you an answer to your inanely framed question the other night. S’ppose you either didn’t see it or would prefer to avoid it.

Either way, it’s there.

OK, off to pay for the occupation. And more corporate welfare.

Pray for rain…

ESR

May 1st, 2009
7:56 am

Has Pelosi started coughing yet? Did I hear a sneeze?

ESR

May 1st, 2009
8:06 am

Jay, your’e a low wage earning hypocrite who is about to be aout of a job at the AJC and I couldn’t be happier, this si the last post of mine you’ll delete you fracking IDIOT. Ban me, you jerk.

Jay

May 1st, 2009
8:11 am

I’m always glad to help a fellow out, ESR. So sure, consider it done.

But for the record, I haven’t touched any of your posts in recent days. Buh bye.

Adittohead

May 1st, 2009
8:35 am

CHICKEN LITTLE….CHICKEN LITTLE…If this FLU scare were on the up-&up…why don’t the NBA officials postpone the FINALS-????? Between Boston & Chicago..

Adittohead

May 1st, 2009
8:38 am

THE SKY IS FALLING…THE SKY IS FALLING. CANCEL THE NBA PLAYOFFs.

your local black man

May 1st, 2009
9:25 am

Damn! N.J. you talk about the ILLEGALS as if it’s a desired lifestyle of choice. Let’s see, are you LEGAL or ILLEGAL? Do you understand the difference between the two? One is good and the other is bad, Now what the bad needs to do is either convert to what is good or take ya azz back home!

md

May 1st, 2009
9:38 am

ylbm,

You are wasting your time. The “rule of law” only applies to them when it fits their agenda. They are a pick and choose group and very hypocritical. Consistent they are not.

catlady

May 1st, 2009
4:31 pm

One other comment. In the old days, when travel was more difficult, closing a single school made sense. Now with travel and the huge venues we routinely visit (hello megachurches, hello malls) closing one school or even one system doesn’t make much sense.

Of course, common sense isn’t very common.