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nixon mao
Richard Nixon shakes hands with Mao Tse Tung, responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of his own people.
bush saudi

George W. Bush holds hands with Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, a nation that calls for the destruction of Israel, where women can’t drive cars and where even the slightest expression of dissent is met with prison and perhaps execution. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers on Sept. 11 came from Saudi Arabia.
saddam rumsfeld

Donald Rumsfeld, special envoy of President Ronald Reagan, shakes hands with Saddam Hussein shortly after the gassing of thousands of Kurds at Hussein’s orders.
ford brezhnevPresident Gerald Ford yuks it up with Leonid Brezhnev, the hard-liner leader of the Soviet Union, one of the most repressive regimes in human history.
obama chavez
President Barack Obama shakes hands with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who has said many very bad things about the United States.

So explain to me again: What’s the problem here?

207 comments Add your comment

Copyleft

April 20th, 2009
11:50 am

It’s a scandal because the right wing really, really NEEDS a scandal right now.

And, in the fevered imaginations of talk-radio hosts, no president has ever met with foreign leaders who disagreed with U.S. policy ever before, much less shaken hands with them. Clearly, this is proof that Obama is nothing but Hugo Chavez’s puppet!

TnGelding

April 20th, 2009
11:52 am

Because it’s the dreaded opposition party making nice with our “enemies.”

ByteMe

April 20th, 2009
11:59 am

Ah, the things that really really SHOULD be in the newspaper instead of “Faith and Values”.

RW-(the original)

April 20th, 2009
11:59 am

Maybe I’m missing something here, but shouldn’t there be a link to some credible source calling this a scandal?

Corporal Punishment

April 20th, 2009
12:01 pm

This is a scandal because the neocons can’t stand (or understand) diplomacy.

I Report/ You Whine

April 20th, 2009
12:04 pm

Let’s see, Russia is serious, China is serious, Saudi Arabia is serious, duh, Venezuela is a tinpot third world wannabe.

At least Obozo didn’t grab his ankles.

This time.

George American

April 20th, 2009
12:05 pm

Obama is obviously trying to appease our enemies, like Phil Castro and Jugo Charvez. He is week and making the world think that America is week by shaking hands with a socialist who has vowed for the destruction of our constitution and way of life.

We should not stand for this appeasement or the continuation of the Cuban communist threat!

Reebok

April 20th, 2009
12:07 pm

Jay – You are going to take all the fun out of this if you are going to keep putting things into historical perspective.

Reebok

April 20th, 2009
12:08 pm

Wait – I’m sure Wooten can tell me why this is a scandal…stand by, I’ll be right back.

Brad Steele

April 20th, 2009
12:09 pm

Whiner,
Brilliant logic and deduction. Your anger and stupidity is eclipsed only by your dumb comments.

I Report/ You Whine

April 20th, 2009
12:10 pm

This one is rude, I like it-

The poster scribe could have condemned any other media formerly known as mainstream. He (or a brash she) could have written “MSNBC Sucks,” but what’s so bold about stating the obvious? He could have scratched out “USA Today Sucks,” for promoting their love for big government, but the McPaper’s crosswords are pretty good. He could have stated “the Journal-Constitution Sucks,” but why disrespect the dead?

“Crazy” right wingers, bwa.

ByteMe

April 20th, 2009
12:12 pm

RW: You mean rightwingnuttery has a “credible” information outlet? Like FOX News or something? Or you mean something like a real news source, since this isn’t commenting on news, but commentary on rightwingnut noise makers like Wooten and Hannity….

Mrs. Godzilla

April 20th, 2009
12:13 pm

Oh, the scandal du jour! How delightful!

Next up …… they demand to see Bo’s birth certificate!
There is no actual proof he’s a dog after all.

Mrs. Godzilla

April 20th, 2009
12:14 pm

No wait…..Bo gets own teleprompter….

bark….bark….bark

AmVet

April 20th, 2009
12:18 pm

My take on this is simple.

When the Uppity One gets 4,274 Americans killed, 31,102 wounded, many gravely, and wastes nearly a trillion dollars on a botched invasion and occupation, let’s talk about foreign policy.

Until then you chest pounders would be well advised to find a convenient sock and insert it in a certain orifice…

Paul

April 20th, 2009
12:22 pm

Scandal?

Look at those other pictures. I’ll offer that now’s the time for the US to implement full diplomatic relations and contacts with the Islamic Republic of Iran. It ‘worked’ with Nixon and Mao.

We have a small window of opportunity with Iran. Moderates abound. We need to understand Iran’s interests – and the interests of the various factions. Weaken the extremists and encourage the moderates by instituting full diplomatic relations and removing one of their boogeymen (us) from their arsenal.

Paul

April 20th, 2009
12:24 pm

Jay,

Sorry. Didn’t address the thread, directly. I’ll go with CopyLeft’s answer. And enjoy listening to Hugo explain to his people why he’s making nice with imbeciles and devils.

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

April 20th, 2009
12:28 pm

Hate to say it, but I agree with you, Jay. Just two guys, who happen to share a common hatred of everything great about America, shaking hands. What’s the big deal?

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

April 20th, 2009
12:29 pm

ps – I wonder if, for the first time in her life, Mrs. Chavez felt proud of America.

Corporal Punishment

April 20th, 2009
12:31 pm

AmVet,
Your reference to the “Uppity One” is just the type of racist bloating we expect from your like.

Thank you for helping to marginalize yourself and the nutbag fringe.

Hoof Hearted

April 20th, 2009
12:31 pm

It’s a scandal because: (a) it’s a slow news day/week; and (b) the loons are desperately searching for ANYTHING to stick to Obama. It’s embarrassing that so many of us are this gullible.

Also, I don’t think the picture of Bush and Crown Prince Abdullah is analogous. While Saudi Arabia might be our “enemies” in reality, they are allegedly our “allies,” and they have never threatened to destroy the U.S.

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

April 20th, 2009
12:32 pm

All kidding aside, Chavez is actually an upgrade as wingman to President Ob-amatuer over Billy Ayres. At least Chavez doesn’t hate everything about America and, frankly, he isn’t nearly so good at killing his perceived opponents as Pencil-neck Billy Ayres.

Next – G-d bless Venezuala? No, no, no, no, no GD Venezuala.

getalife

April 20th, 2009
12:34 pm

The cons are crying wolf on everything.

When he does screw up, cons will be ignored.

AmVet

April 20th, 2009
12:38 pm

Private Punishment, take it up with Congressman Lynn Westmoreland. He’s the one channeling Taggert from Blazing Saddles.

He’s right up your alley, I’m sure…

And the word is ilk, not like, dufus…

Shawny

April 20th, 2009
12:40 pm

There is no scandal. Don’t try to make one up.

I Report/ You Whine

April 20th, 2009
12:40 pm

Rampant idiocy in action but yet it’s the right wingers who are “crazy-”

BOLD: OBAMA VOWS TO CUT $100,000,000 FROM $3,550,000,000,000 BUDGET!

Well happy day!

Regulators Clash on How to Release Banks Results Without Damage…

Duh, let’s put out a news report saying that our test results are bad but we’re gonna hide them, duh, spazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzstic.

Corporal Punishment

April 20th, 2009
12:42 pm

AmVet,
Ilk and like can be used interchangeably, language genius. It is bloviating, not bloating – that was the bait, Dr. English.

Bosch

April 20th, 2009
12:48 pm

Paul,

From downstairs: in our case it’s option three – no amount of drugs can help – I think beer and crawfish is the ticket for this old woman – it’s probably make her much happier! This is a case of Alzheimer’s we’re dealing with, and it sucks big time. The old woman tried to smack me this weekend! Glad she didn’t have a knife. I haven’t had a woman actually try to hit me in a long time!!!

Just so ya’ know – shopping around for nursing homes is NOT FUN. Nursing homes – even the good ones – are about the most depressing places on Earth.

But as to the topic –

Jay, got me?

AmVet

April 20th, 2009
12:50 pm

Punisher, you’re a veritable lexophine!

Methinks your avoidance of the salient point though, indicates you were a big Shtick & Awe kinda guy.

Dark days indeed for the fake conservatives and armchair warriors…

Taxpayer

April 20th, 2009
12:55 pm

Oooohhh! That Hugo. He has sad some really dirty words about the USofA. That was priceless, Jay.

Reebok

April 20th, 2009
12:57 pm

OK, Wooten is no help…apparently smiling and acting diplomatic at a diplomatic summit w/ Chavez is some kind of gateway drug to kowtowing to North Korea…I guess I’m not smart enough to get the connection…my bad.

Mort Merkel

April 20th, 2009
12:58 pm

Hey, if Limpbaugh can twist Somali pirates into impoverished teen martyrs, the right can turn anything into a scandal. I really think many Republicans need to be committed for mental health care for a few months to regain their sanity. No, really.

Ray

April 20th, 2009
1:08 pm

Chavez is a pretty crafty advisory. He also happens to be the only one of these in the pictures that is from the Western Hemisphere. Maybe it’s like Kanye West said….. maybe Chavez is just misunderstood and we are not aware that he just doesn’t like white people. Maybe this is his chance to gain the respect that he feels no one is giving him. Behind that smug grin, what do you think is running through his mind? “How can I screw this idiot American President and put his weaknesses to my best advantage?” “How will this elevate my standing among those in South and Central America who view me as a lightweight?” There is not one American President who posed with past dictators in Bookman’s photo catalog that had a poorer understanding of American foreign policy than Buckwheat. No one. He is viewed as weak by those who would exploit him and unfortunately, he is the “leader” of the free world. Most of those who do not like us at least knew that they were dealing with men of some strength and resolve. They were, for the most part, not trying to win a popularity contest with our advisories. Can you imagine Mr. Wonderful saying to Putin, “Mr Putin, tear down this wall?” I cannot and neither can the despots of the world.

Sissy Saxby

April 20th, 2009
1:11 pm

It’s a scandal because the haters can’t do anything but hate, hate, hate.

p.s. get a job, Whiner

RW-(the original)

April 20th, 2009
1:13 pm

BM,

I’m not trying to tell you or Jay B anything. I just don’t know who is calling this handshake a scandal in the first place.

Question

April 20th, 2009
1:14 pm

Sidebar — I continue to see the following statement as recent as this week. Can someone please explain to me what it means –”The thing that bewilders me is that this president just cut taxes for 95 percent of the American people,” Axelrod argued.”.

Corporal Punishment

April 20th, 2009
1:15 pm

Ray,
Pure brilliance. Please give us more. Referring to Obama as “Buckwheat” is very original racist thought. Thanks for speaking up for all of Georgia’s anonymous Klanners.

Copyleft

April 20th, 2009
1:19 pm

RW: You can check Neal’s Nuze (boortz.com), LGF, Fox News, and Wooten’s own blog for numerous cries of dismay and outrage at this horrific spectacle of a U.S. president meeting with foreign leaders without spitting on them.

Taxpayer

April 20th, 2009
1:22 pm

Just be careful who you shake hands with. Some times, the ones proclaiming themselves to be on the side of good turn out to be the truly evil ones.

“If there is somebody captured,” President George W. Bush told reporters on March 23, 2003, “I expect those people to be treated humanely. If not, the people who mistreat the prisoners will be treated as war criminals.”

Then, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, President George W. Bush, and other administration officials orchestrated a chorus of outrage, citing those TV scenes as proof of the Iraq’s government contempt for international law in general and the Geneva Conventions in particular.

“It is a blatant violation of the Geneva Convention to humiliate and abuse prisoners of war or to harm them in any way. As President Bush said yesterday, those who harm POWs will be found and punished as war criminals,” Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke said on March 24, 2003. – truthout.org

Then again, you just gotta love semantics, dontcha know. I mean, these GOPers really have a thorough command of the English language.

JohnF

April 20th, 2009
1:25 pm

RW,

Good ole Newt G. is the most vocal critic of “the Handshake”, i.e, he has raised the incident to that of a scandal.

RSP

April 20th, 2009
1:25 pm

The second one, Awww, so sweet.

RW-(the original)

April 20th, 2009
1:26 pm

Copy,

No I can’t because I checked. There’s a lot of talk about Obama accepting the book but nothing I saw about this handshake being a scandal. Even the talk about allowing Chavez to interrupt Obama to give him the book calls it amateurish not scandalous.

mm

April 20th, 2009
1:26 pm

Wyld Byll,

I have to at least give Whiner credit for twisting the truth. You are no where near the truth when you post.

Jay,

Each and every day the nutjobs attack something about Obama:

“He didn’t have a comment”.

“He bowed to a Saudi”.

“He shook hands with Chavez”.

“His dog has links to the Kennedy family”.

“He uses a teleprompter”.

“He’s not wearing a flagpin”.

“He’s not wearing a tie in the oval office”.

You know he’s doing a great job if they can’t find anything worse than these pathetic “scandals”.

fearless fosdick

April 20th, 2009
1:30 pm

Corporal Punishment @ 12:31

Punishment, I’m going to stick my two cents in here in defense of AmVet.

As I read the entire context of what he posted it is obviously clear that this was not a racial slur…it’s called being ironic. Here for your enjoyment is the fool who uttered the term uppity…The one and only Lynn Westmoreland!

http://en.sevenload.com/videos/APAfFaS-Stephen-Colbert-versus-Lynn-Westmoreland

Truth

April 20th, 2009
1:31 pm

Seems to me that Jay and his followers are the ones trying to create a scandal….

AmVet

April 20th, 2009
1:32 pm

What a hoot. The out of work Kingmaker is not just daft and dangerous, he’s a disturbed stalker?

(CNN) – Meghan McCain loves Twitter — except for the “creepy people.” Like Karl Rove.

In a blog post for the Daily Beast published Monday, McCain says the social networking site has been a “liberating” experience for her — if only her dispatches weren’t being read by the former Bush advisor.

“Karl Rove follows me on Twitter. That’s creepy,” she said. “I joined Twitter a few months ago; so far, it has been a liberating way to transition from political to personal blogging. It’s allowed me to share the less serious aspects and humorously uncensored moments of my life. But there’s also been a downside: I am now being followed by Karl Rove, and my local sheriff, and God knows how many other political pundits. We need to take Twitter back from the creepy people.”

Later, she wrote: “I can’t shake the fact that Karl Rove is following me-it can be creepy. So watch out.”

The daughter of former Republican presidential candidate John McCain also said she finds Rove’s Tweets “boring,” and speculated that he had a “ghost Twitterer” or an assistant posting his thoughts.

Bosch

April 20th, 2009
1:32 pm

RW,

I’ve been out of the loop with news the past few days, but someone this morning told me that they heard Newt carrying on about it.

RW-(the original)

April 20th, 2009
1:35 pm

JohnF,

Link please.

ByteMe

April 20th, 2009
1:36 pm

RW:

Sen. John Ensign, R-Nevada, told CNN on Sunday it was “irresponsible” for Obama to have been seen “laughing and joking” with Chavez.

“This is a person who is one of the most anti-American leaders in the entire world,” Ensign said on “State of the Union.” “He is a brutal dictator, and human rights violations are very, very prevalent in Venezuela. And you have to be careful.”

Republican Newt Gingrich joined the criticism Monday, saying enemies of the United States will use Obama’s friendly encounter with Chavez as propaganda.

“Everywhere in Latin America, enemies of America are going to use the picture of Chavez smiling and being with the president as proof that Chavez is now legitimate, that he is acceptable,” the former House leader said on NBC’s “Today” show.

Stephen Hayes, a CNN contributor and writer for the conservative magazine The Weekly Standard, said it’s not the handshake that irks Republicans but that Obama “seemed to actually be enjoying it.”

Lots of commentary, amounting to just hot air.

Bosch

April 20th, 2009
1:39 pm

AmVet,

Maybe the “ghost twitterer” is Alberto Gonzalez – I read somewhere the other day that he can’t find a job.

RW-(the disingenuous)

April 20th, 2009
1:47 pm

Truth in advertising. Right here, right now.

Mort Merkel

April 20th, 2009
1:49 pm

Pointing out the obvious here. RW is being willfully stupid for the fun of being aggravating. End his fun and stop playing.

Dave R

April 20th, 2009
1:58 pm

Once again, Jay manufacturing outrage where none exists.

Joe Matarotz

April 20th, 2009
2:02 pm

Jay forgot the picture of JFK and Kruschev. Classic stuff.

Corporal Punishment

April 20th, 2009
2:03 pm

AmVet,
sorry about the gouge, i was not reading closely enough to get the subtleties. keep up the good work.

Peter

April 20th, 2009
2:05 pm

The Republican HATE PUSHERS say so !

Taxpayer

April 20th, 2009
2:05 pm

Well, just wait until people find out that Chavez gave 100 million in heating oil to poor US families last year. That’s not going to go over too well for Obama either. :smile:

Gandalf, the White!

April 20th, 2009
2:14 pm

Copyleft is a dumbass!

Conventional Wisdom

April 20th, 2009
2:15 pm

Has anyone ever heard the old saying ” Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer”? It appears as that’s exactly what the president is doing? Ignoring the problem doesn’t make it go away. We can ignore Iran/Venezuela all we want but while we are busy ignoring, they are steadily taking action. You have can never know how serious of a threat a man is until you look him in the eyes………

Gandalf, the White!

April 20th, 2009
2:15 pm

Because all the presidents except BARRY knew they were touchin’ scum. Barry is touchin’ the hand of one of his hero’s! IMPEACH THE MORON!

Gandalf, the White!

April 20th, 2009
2:17 pm

Conventional Wisdom what about “keep your friends close, kill you enemies” What Would Chuck Norris do?

Joey

April 20th, 2009
2:18 pm

Ignoring the scandal argument, what I would like to know is:

How much did the publisher pay to Chavez to get him to gift that
book to President Obama? Whatever the amount it was not enough.
And was it the same company that published Ayers’ books?

jasper

April 20th, 2009
2:18 pm

Who’s paranoid now? If there’s a scandal, its in Venezuela as to why Chavez is shaking hands with the devil. For all I care he can spend the next 8 years shaking hands, bowing, and apologizing for the U.S., as long as it keeps him from spending our money. I mean the taxpayer’s money.

Gandalf, the White!

April 20th, 2009
2:19 pm

Copyleft, all it proves is he’s a buttmunch just like you! hehe ;-) I hate you so much!

Mrs. Godzilla

April 20th, 2009
2:21 pm

What would Chuck Norris do?

Make another “B” movie….

Bookman Lies

April 20th, 2009
2:24 pm

A classic case of disinformation.

Jay is trying to manufacture a controversy and blame its origin on the other guy.

Right out of Saul Alinsky’s playbook.

Conventional Wisdom

April 20th, 2009
2:28 pm

Gandalf, “Chuck Norris” would use a stunt double. At this point if we kill all our enemies we would be the only ones left.

south side

April 20th, 2009
2:29 pm

I guess the Saudis were so afraid of Bush they over charged us billions in oil .While our strong president Bush did nothin .I guess thats what a strong leader does they dont bow they just bend over and let them screw us tax payers.The last adminstration show how strong we are after 911 by going after the wrong people they made America look weak and you fool are worried about Obama looking weak

Jay

April 20th, 2009
2:30 pm

And then there’s the folks at the top conservative blogs. At Powerline, for example, someone writes:

“I thought Barack Obama couldn’t sink lower than he did in his apology tour of Europe. I was wrong. Now it’s Latin America, where Obama is attending the Summit of the Americas. While he doesn’t seem to have actually bowed to anyone in Trinidad, he has adopted a submissive posture at every opportunity, telling Latin America’s leaders that he “has a lot to learn.” I’m afraid that’s truer than Obama knows. One can only speculate as to what was running through Hugo Chavez’s mind when Obama humiliated himself by posing for this photo…..Does Obama really not understand that hostile foreign leaders are making a fool of him and of the country he purports to lead? Apparently not. I don’t think Barack Obama is a stupid man, but he is in so far over his head that every time he ventures onto the international stage he not only embarrasses himself–and us–he damages, if ever so slightly, our national security.”

Or the front-page poster at Redstate, who writes: “Barack Obama has just taken the next step towards a complete disregard for America’s foreign policy by back slapping self-professed enemy to the “great Satan,” tin pot dictator and oppressor, Hugo Chavez. As Obama grins and associates with such low-end characters, treating them as worthy members of the international community, he drags down both the United States and any country that strives to treat its people with the dignity they deserve as human beings.”

Or the guy at HotAir, who claims:
“It’s not a question of jeopardizing national security, it’s a question of conferring legitimacy upon a cretin who, in a just world, would be radioactively illegitimate. If Obama’s going to do that, the least he can do is not play dumb about it.”

Or several posters at The Corner at NationalReview.com. Or Drudge, who has been pushing this as hard as he can.

But of course, I secretly control all of those outlets. My business plan is to force them to post silly, loony arguments, which I then expose on this AJC blog. And it’s working so well….

Paul

April 20th, 2009
2:30 pm

Hi Mrs. Godzilla!

lardlike

April 20th, 2009
2:31 pm

I guess as a nation we have become immune to diplomacy as an authentic way of doing business on the international stage. We were a nation in danger of becoming isolated, ineffective and ultimately less than a world power under the misguided foreign policies of the Bush administration – that is till we elected a leader who understands what it means to lead.

abc

April 20th, 2009
2:31 pm

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. Nobody thinks this is a scandal. The media has been wanting to turn on Obama since his polls started slipping some weeks back. He’s less popular than Reagan’s first 100 days, equally popular as Jimmy Carter’s first 100 days, about the same as George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush’s first 100 days, etc.

Talk is becoming cheap. Let’s see some results, ANY results.

south side

April 20th, 2009
2:34 pm

Republicans new symbol should be the Dinosour

bubbatech02

April 20th, 2009
2:36 pm

hate to break it to you, but its only the forgotten, long dead former leaders of the right that are calling this a scandal. the remaining, leaderless and forgotten right who place no confidence in the leadership of the republican party dont really think its a scandal. who cares anyway.

W. Churchill's Ghost

April 20th, 2009
2:38 pm

This is a scandal because we didn’t ATTACK!…ATTACK!…ATTACK!….BOMB!…BOMB!…BOMB!.. Shock and Awe! Mission UnAccomplished.. And For the record, GWB is a devil he sent our young men and women (our future) to die for Nothing…absolutely NOTHING.

We didn’t get the oil we thirst for and prices are still high, Iraq is still in shambles, Iraq still has no real stable gov’t or constitution to speak off, and they still can’t defend themselves from the thug Taliban and ex-Bath Party. Oh yeah don’t forget about the men, women, & children blown to h*ll.

How would things go if Canada went after adversaries they thought were in the U.S. and bombed the h*ll out of New York, Miami, or Seattle? Sounds pretty manic doesn’t it?

GMan

April 20th, 2009
2:40 pm

There was a teabagger named Chuck
A redneck way down on his luck
Talk radio’s his god
And lord Rush gets his nod
Now he’s an irrelevant… person!

Paul

April 20th, 2009
2:42 pm

Okay, it seems Dems got off to a bad start on this during the candidate debates. Remember the ‘no preconditions’ stuff and how our now Secretary of State went after candidate Obama? This should’ve been the first inkling of a bit of “Obama’s advisors have a bit to learn” with their accommodating, conciliatory response.

But now that Republicans have picked up on a line of attack that worked so well when used by a Dem against another Dem, Pres Obama needs to shift. Talk straight to the American people. Make a few points:

– we have full diplomatic relations with a number of repressive countries

- we do not make as a condition of interaction whether or not a country adheres to our standards, any more than other countries expect us to interact with theirs.

- interacting with leaders some don’t like is cause for news. In those leaders’ own countries. Let their populace see the American President acting civily and in pursuit of a greater good, even when their own leaders call the Pres and his country an ignoramus or The Great Satan.

- You can get farther with pursuing agreements when you talk. Ask: how does not talking gain us what we want? Even if agreements with the best of what we want not arise, simply recognizing other countries’ security interests does not confer legitimacy upon those interests; rather, it can tone down the rhetoric and chest-pounding actions of ’strength’ (deploying nukes, etc.) we now see.

Swami Dave

April 20th, 2009
2:46 pm

Hmmmm….

When Nixon met Mao, I do not think that anyone concluded that Nixon supported the Chinese human rights atrocities or sought Chinese-style communism for America.

Ditto when Ford met Brezhnev would anyone come to the conclusion that their talks represented any support for the repressive nature of his regime or a inclination to move America toward a Soviet-style communism.

Rumsfeld would have been meeting Hussein at a time when Iraq was at war with the Shah’s Iran which, to most rational observers, would represent a some-what uncomfortable “the enemy of my greater enemy is probably my best friendly option”.

Likewise, the Saudis link to groups whom we may not agree (and who may be in active opposition to our interests) aside, they are a large supplier of oil resources upon which our nation (currently) depends.

That would leave our current President getting chummy with one of this hemisphere’s greatest detractors of our country and the leader of the largest communist dictatorship in his hemisphere.

It will undoubtedly raise further concerns when much of the collectivist, anti-capitalist, big government language espoused by Chavez seems to mirror many of the publicly-voiced views by Obama.

Maybe if Obama would have responded to Chavez’s gift in kind (by offering a copy of “Federalist Papers”, the US Constitution, or “Common Sense”) as a subtle clue that he recognizes the inherent strength of freedom and opportunity over the collectivist thuggery of the communists, then there would have not been an controversy.

As it is, when you sound like a duck, act like a duck, and seem very comfortable in the company of ducks, don’t get self-righteous and shocked when you are perceived a web-footed water fowl!

-Swami Dave

Red

April 20th, 2009
2:48 pm

And apparently Chavez approached SOS Clinton about reestablishing limited diplomatic ties. RUN FOR YOUR BUNKERS, THE END IS NEAR!

Joe Matarotz

April 20th, 2009
2:49 pm

On the real news front:

Iranian President Ahmandinejad delivered a speech at the U.N. conference on racism that caused about 40 diplomats from Britain, France and other European nations to walk out. He accused the West for using the Holocaust as a ‘pretext’ for agression against Palestinians.

There are two glaring facts here. The first is that the Holocaust did happen, and 6 million mne, women and children of Jewish descent were murdered by the Nazis. The second fact is that there are true morons in the world who would try to have you believe that it didn’t happen or that somehow it was the Jews’ own fault. What’s sad is that this happened 70 years ago. Not 700, or 7000. After it came to light, people asked, ‘How could this happen?’ or “How could the United States stand by and allow this?” What’s sadder still is that today this is still happening in other parts of the world and we are allowing it to happen.

By the way, after that stirring speech, do you think Obama will offer to meet Ahmadinejad at Macy’s Herald Square in New York, where he can drop trou prior to Obama placing a big kiss on his posterior? Just wondering…

Tommychan

April 20th, 2009
2:50 pm

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer do not under estimate The big O . abc is correct. The first 100days is very little time to change a direction the country has moved in for 10years. Keeping the oil flowing while we fix our problem is in our best interest ! It took 10 years and a world war for FDR to fix Hoover mistakes then it took Reagan years to correct carter mistakes . Obama may need as much time as Regan did to fix the errors of the People before him. One can only wonder how lone it will take to fix his errors.

Paul

April 20th, 2009
2:53 pm

Swami Dave

Nice idea about the reciprocal book gift.

That executive staff needs to get its collective act together.

Dave R

April 20th, 2009
2:55 pm

The difference here is that Jay posts pictures of simple handshakes and calls Obama’s picture an alleged outrage by the right, when it is not the handshake that is the outrage, it is the lack of response to the insults hurled at the county he supposedly leads by these tin pot dictators while he sits there and smiles and never, ever defends his country. During OR after the insults.

Meanwhile, he issues more apologies for our country while on foreign soil than the Dixie Chicks.

If his teleprompter isn’t programmed with pride for his country, maybe he can’t come up with the words to show any.

Pathetic.

Daedalus

April 20th, 2009
2:56 pm

Hey RW — Its been all over your precious Fox News. Next time you are curious about something, try Google:

“I think it sends a terrible signal to all of Latin America, and a terrible signal about how the new administration regards dictators…. so apparently being nice to the dictators is the way he intends to get oil.” Newt Gingrich.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv1NjuMwzQ8

http://www.gop12.com/2009/04/newt-on-obama-chavez-handshake.html

http://www.woai.com/news/local/story/Obama-rapped-by-Republicans-for-Chavez-handshake/mHDylapdwUuq5rcRS571mA.cspx

http://www.examiner.com/x-7327-Atlanta-Christianity-Examiner~y2009m4d20-ObamaChavez-handshake-wont-hurt-the-US

Taxpayer

April 20th, 2009
2:58 pm

And, besides, just who has Hugo helped. I’ll bet that he’s been secretly going around and killing people all over the place and oppressing people and torturing people and just doing all sorts of terrible things, in addition to saying some really mean words. Dirty, mean words. That bad man. Bad, bad, bad. :lol:

Bosch

April 20th, 2009
3:00 pm

Totally off subject, but:

Today is the 10th anniversary of the Columbine shootings – I wonder what ever happened, if anything, to the parents of those maniacs who killed those people?

AmVet

April 20th, 2009
3:01 pm

Every once in a while, someone posits that there are certain traits Obama shares with Reagan.

But in this regard, it is clear that he Uppity One is a rank amateur compared to the Great Communicator.

While Obama talks nice to the “dictators”, Reagan gave them tons of money and arms…

Bosch

April 20th, 2009
3:02 pm

Wait a minute, that last comment sounded like I thought those parents should be charged with a crime – I was just wondering what happened to them.

bdawgfan

April 20th, 2009
3:02 pm

Heck, anybody that says George W. Bush is the devil deserves a kiss on mouth!

Bosch

April 20th, 2009
3:04 pm

AmVet@ 3:01,

Which one is which?

Cherokee

April 20th, 2009
3:06 pm

brillant GMan

jt

April 20th, 2009
3:08 pm

WTF. I’m sorry. i moderate it. get it off me.

Corporal

April 20th, 2009
3:09 pm

Jay:

There is nothing wrong with the handshake. I wish you would have found one of Reagan shaking hands with Gorbachov.

The difference is Reagan drove the Soviet Union into the ground and Obama is talking “appeasement” with our enemies.

All countries are NOT equal. Some are “criminal”. Intelligent diplomacy knows how to deal with despots. Your ultimate goal is not to befriend, help, stabilize or compromise with them but to bring their leadership down so the peoples of those countries can experience true freedom.

ESR

April 20th, 2009
3:10 pm

I have had to shake hands with many people I did not like or respect, it goes with the territory at times. I must say the Crown Prince of Saudi appears to be enjoying his hand holding with Bush just a little toooooo much.

jt

April 20th, 2009
3:11 pm

Obama’s smile looks as if him and Bolivia’s president had exchanged “diplomatic” gifts.

AmVet

April 20th, 2009
3:13 pm

“…Reagan drove the Soviet Union into the ground…”

Factually incorrect.

But Ronnie probably does crack the top ten reasons why the USSR imploded…

RSP

April 20th, 2009
3:13 pm

This just in: President Obama Models Real Christian Behavior

In Matthew 5:43-46, Jesus says:
“You have heard that it was said, “You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.” But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you?”

Good for you, Mr. President.

Bosch

April 20th, 2009
3:14 pm

Corporal,

Be real. Reagan did not drive the USSR into the ground – they did it to themselves.

Corporal

April 20th, 2009
3:15 pm

AmVet:

Disagree with you on Reagan vs. the Soviet Union but what about this part:

“All countries are NOT equal. Some are “criminal”. Intelligent diplomacy knows how to deal with despots. Your ultimate goal is not to befriend, help, stabilize or compromise with them but to bring their leadership down so the peoples of those countries can experience true freedom.”

Corporal

April 20th, 2009
3:16 pm

HEADLINE/ABC: “A Drop in a Very Big Bucket: Obama Tells His Cabinet, Cut $100M …”

What a joke. Piggy bank stuff.

1) Eyewash
2) Micromanagement at its worst