Paranoia will destroy ya … and the rest of us too
Remember the sane ol’ days, when conservatives were merely fixated on the claim that Obama was about to restore the Fairness Doctrine?
That was just a few months ago. Now the paranoia has progressed to Obama confiscating their guns, barring the sale of ammunition and imposing mandatory national service and talk of secession from the Union.
And to the degree the mainstream GOP leadership is involved at all, it is feeding rather than calming the paranoia.
This is good for nobody.
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Jay
April 17th, 2009
12:19 pm
I should also note that the poster who called himself Conservative Anchor has been banned. Yesterday, he gave the following advice to a fellow conservative poster:
“Just pick your targets for the day the revolt begins. There are more of us than them. I figure in a week they’ll all be gone.”
Terroristic threats will not be tolerated here.
I Report/ You Whine
April 17th, 2009
12:19 pm
I refuse to participate in any further “torture,” Sarah Palin Derangement Syndrome or Republican Party self help blogs, so there, phhhhhbbbttttt.
Oh wait, that’s all Bookman has anymore.
Never mind.
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Obozo said, and I quote, banning assault weapons is not politically popular.
So, just a few fake opinion polls from the pinko media……….
ew
Paul
April 17th, 2009
12:22 pm
And yesterday my own governor was talking about secession.
Georgians aren’t the only ones who are embarrassed by their local politicians.
Oh, and he even got his history wrong about the right of Texas to secede. No wonder he doesn’t like education standards and No Child Left Behind.
Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
April 17th, 2009
12:35 pm
Jay, i agree with your polciy. With respect to the “terroristic threats”,can Conservative Anchor be reinstated if he co-chairs a foundation with President Oabama?
Joey
April 17th, 2009
12:38 pm
Yesterday it was faux outrage.
Today it is faux paranoia.
All done faux the love of Progressive Democrats.
Stop Children.
Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
April 17th, 2009
12:39 pm
Jay,
ps – I missed last Friday’s drivin’ tunes. Nice needle, guess Clint doesn’t need to put you in the Gran Torino.
Shawny
April 17th, 2009
12:40 pm
You are good for nobody.
Corporal
April 17th, 2009
12:40 pm
Jay:
Regarding your 12:19: I agree.
Regarding your thread: the “true” ones are really feeding the paranoia.
ty webb
April 17th, 2009
12:42 pm
Similar to the whole George Bush hates black people, is spying on you, will torture you, blew up the levees, doesn’t want to treat sick children, is hitler, is a terrorist, is a fascist, paranoia?
DB, Gwinnettian
April 17th, 2009
12:45 pm
Actually, the line is “Paranoia, the destroyer” but I’ll let you slide this once.
Jay
April 17th, 2009
12:47 pm
Yes, Ty, it is similar. But I would argue that the current example is more pervasive and dangerous, in that it is more likely to be acted upon.
ty webb
April 17th, 2009
12:49 pm
Jay, of course you would, because it’s directed against your guy.
mm
April 17th, 2009
12:49 pm
Jay,
I believe one of the other wingnutties made the following comment:
“We won’t be armed THIS time.”
The dimwits don’t realize they are turning off mainstream Americans with their hatred and even more so, their stupidity. Instead of coming up with ideas, they attack the party the majority of Americans voted for.
Before, Americans just had to deal with GOP ineptitude. Now it’s a matter of our safety.
Talk of secession is borderline treason.
I spent most of my life in GA. I always wanted to retire in a cabin on Lake Alatoona. I now realize I will not be moving back to GA as long as the GOP is in charge of the state.
Bear
April 17th, 2009
12:51 pm
If paranoia includes concerns about continued uncontrolled spending with little to no accountability or benchmarks, redefining terms so they are “warm and fuzzy”, unclear definition and concepts of “tax breaks”, HS reports of domestic terrorism (but can’t use the term for our international “friends”, etc. then I guess I’m paranoid…
Mrs. Godzilla
April 17th, 2009
12:53 pm
Not meaning to be terroristic…but the radical right is shooting
themselves in the foot.
Stay the course fellows, Please!
Comment
April 17th, 2009
12:59 pm
Seems paranoia swings both ways….
Nancy Pelosi’s quote on the tea parties –
“This initiative is funded by the high-end. We call it ‘astroturf’; it’s not really a grassroots movement. It’s astroturfed by some of the wealthiest people in America to keep the focus on tax cuts for the rich instead of for the great middle class.”
Corporal
April 17th, 2009
1:04 pm
UPDATED LIST:
Midori (personal attacks)
Chad Harris (personal attacks – banned by Jay anyway)
Mrs. Godzilla (personal attacks)
DB Gwinnettian(personal attacks/unreasoned debate)
“G” (personal attacks – banned by Jay anyway)
Taxpayer (continuing evasive debate)
Let it be so …………..
mm
April 17th, 2009
1:06 pm
Comment,
Pelosi hit the nail on the head. Taxes are about to be lowered for most, if not all of the idiots that were teabagging.
Corporal
April 17th, 2009
1:06 pm
Wyld Byll Hyltnyr:
“Jay, i agree with your polciy. With respect to the “terroristic threats”,can Conservative Anchor be reinstated if he co-chairs a foundation with President Oabama?”
LOL ! LOL !
Susan Myers
April 17th, 2009
1:07 pm
And you can forget about football! Obama will ban that and make us all watch cricket or some such socialist game. And he’ll make pork illegal! And country-western music! And make pickups run on Budweiser!
Run! Run! To Alaska, preferably.
saywhat?
April 17th, 2009
1:08 pm
Comment, your confusing paranoia with statement of fact. The teabagging parties WERE funded and organized by wealthy foundations, but they tried to do it behind the scenes to make it look like a “grass roots” effort, instead of the same old Republican party negativism.
Corporal
April 17th, 2009
1:08 pm
mm:
“Talk of secession is borderline treason.”
Please explain to us why President Jefferson Davis of the Confederacy was never indicted/tried for treason.
RW-(the original)
April 17th, 2009
1:10 pm
Can Conservative Anchor just change his name and come back like Chadly did?
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Yes, Ty, it is similar. But I would argue that the current example is more pervasive and dangerous, in that it is more likely to be acted upon.
Jaay B,
Why don’t you turn that argument into an entire column? I’d love to see the logic that makes you think right wingers are a bunch of trigger happy yahoos ready to go off on any whim.
Meanwhile, in the real world…
Corporal
April 17th, 2009
1:11 pm
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/govt_chasing_chessani/2009/04/17/204124.html?s=al&promo_code=7E29-1
This is just another reason why I can no longer recommend to any young friend or family member that they serve in our U.S. military in a “combat arms” MOS.
Corporal
April 17th, 2009
1:14 pm
P.S. to Wyld Byll Hyltnyr:
Do you want odds on whether Jay will answer your 12:35? Now, don’t get me wrong. He was correct in banning “Conservative Anchor” but the old bias/double standard is just too hard to overcome !!
Mrs. Godzilla
April 17th, 2009
1:14 pm
Agent 86…you be soooooo paranoid.
The few the proud the FABULOUS!
mm
April 17th, 2009
1:15 pm
Corporal,
I don’t know what kind of BS you are about to subject us to, but that time in our country’s history cannot be applied to today.
Doggone/GA
April 17th, 2009
1:16 pm
“Please explain to us why President Jefferson Davis of the Confederacy was never indicted/tried for treason”
Because you can’t indict or try someone for BORDERLINE TREASON, only for actual treason?
ty webb
April 17th, 2009
1:18 pm
Obama’s successful campaign was backed by some big money, and your only kidding yourself if you think it was only through grassroots efforts. Today, any movement or campaign has to have big money(i.e. special interest, corporate, PAC) behind it. Grassroots or astroturf doesn’t really matter as long as the message gets out.
Corporal
April 17th, 2009
1:18 pm
More Paranoia?
HEADLINE/CNN: “Illegal immigrants detained, freed to work
The workplace raid that netted Gerardo Arreola Gonzalez and more than 20 other illegal immigrants would normally have been the first step toward deportation. But then Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said she was unaware of the Washington state raid and vowed to “get to the bottom of it.” Now Arreola has a legal permit to work in the United States, and opponents of illegal immigration are furious.”
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/17/immigration.raid/index.html
WhoCares
April 17th, 2009
1:19 pm
For a party that is supposedly dead y’all sure do spend a lot of time worrying about the GOP
Joey
April 17th, 2009
1:23 pm
Jay; If you are serious in your 12:47 reponse to Ty, then you need to deal with you own paranoia.
Corporal
April 17th, 2009
1:23 pm
To mm/DoggoneGA:
Congress wanted him (and General Lee and many othes) indicted. The Attorney General wouldn’t do it. Congress was livid.
So while Davis waited in prison Congress appointed two successive “special prosectors” (yes, they even had them back then) with orders to do the same thing. Both refused.
Why? All three felt they stood a good chance of losing in a court of law in that a jury would find secession was legitimate. Nothing would have been worse than for the Union to have promulgated a horrendous war and then lost in court.
Of course it applies to today.
Doggone/GA
April 17th, 2009
1:26 pm
“Why? All three felt they stood a good chance of losing in a court of law in that a jury would find secession was legitimate”
You didn’t originally say anything about being on trial for SECESSION. You only mentioned treason. I reponded to your question about TREASON, not to any question about secession.
How often DO you change horses in the middle of a stream?
TW
April 17th, 2009
1:27 pm
How ironic is it that people of such professed faith would allow themselves to be enveloped in fear so easily.
Paul – There’s no way TX has more snake oil consumers than GA…not possible.
catlady
April 17th, 2009
1:30 pm
Just cause they are paranoid doesn’t mean someone ISN’T after them!
Those talking about the security warning for returning servicemen could also add a warning about some OTHER people who feel so at-odds with the way the country is being run.
Corporal
April 17th, 2009
1:33 pm
Doggone/GA:
You need to go back to history 101. Only a state can “secede” and only a person can be tried for “treason” for being the President of a country of seceded states. They would have been tried for treason …….. but now you know why they weren’t. It was never settled as a legal principle …. only by force of arms.
I Report/ You Whine
April 17th, 2009
1:34 pm
Paranoia will destroy ya … and the rest of us too
Heh-
But I would argue that the current example is more pervasive and dangerous, in that it is more likely to be acted upon.
I now realize I will not be moving back to GA as long as the GOP is in charge of the state.
Frisk the liberal first, no?
Swami Dave
April 17th, 2009
1:35 pm
Let’s see……
Number of tear gas canisters required on Wednesday to disperse violent protesters and protect life & property: 0
Number of arrests for illegal behavior on Wednesday: 0
Number of reports of damage to property by protesters on Wednesday: 0
Number of internet pictures circulated showing trashed locations where tax protests were held: 0
Number of CNN anchors attacked when they rudely abandoned all pretense of “objectivity” by arguing with the very people who she was supposed to be covering: 0
Number of passers-by or counter protesters who had paint or other materials thrown at them by raving lunatics: 0
Number of speakers or businesses that had their planned activities or operations interrupted or impeded by protesters trying to gain attention for their pet cause by creating problems or hindrances for others: 0
Percentage of protesters who are largely tax-paying Americans who raise their kids, provide for their families, run the businesses that employ millions, make up the majority of our population who actually make this country work, and were taking time out of their schedules to raise concerns and seek peaceful redress for what they consider a wrong direction that this administration (and some in the past – recent and longer term) seems to be leading us: **some number approaching 100%**
-Swami Dave
Corporal
April 17th, 2009
1:38 pm
Regarding the previous thread on “torture” which has kind of dried up …
Some of you older folks may remember a case that captivated the nation back about 1970 (also a made for T.V. movie). A psycho by the name of Gary Krist kidnapped a young lady in the Decatur area and buried her in a box the size of a coffin somewhere in Gwinnett County (I saw the box a few years later in the police department evidence room and it gave me the chills). He was holding her for ransom. The FBI soon caught him but he wasn’t talking right away.
She was underground in that thing I think for two days but somehow survived with her sanity. You can’t imagine the horrible things I would have done to him (if it were my daughter) in an attempt to find out where she was.
Afterwards, I would be willing to answer for my actions to any authority up to and including the Lord Himself in my effort to save my daughter’s life.
ANYONE who would not have done the same is not worthy of being called a father!
I don’t think inspite of all the monday morning quarterbacking we will ever know how many lives were saved through these efforts. ONE would have been enough for me.
Oh, perfidious nation!
Joey
April 17th, 2009
1:38 pm
“Enveloped in fear.”
That is what I do not understand about Democrats. They won the elections Presidential, Senatorial, and in the House and won with a good margin. But it’s like they know. They know that it was a fluke. They fear Palin? They fear tea parties. They fear Newt for pity sake.
Democrats are enveloped in fear that this is not real. Or is it knowledge that this is not real.
Is that sweat I see on Bookman’s brow?
Doggone/GA
April 17th, 2009
1:39 pm
“It was never settled as a legal principle ”
You need to calm down and reread what was posted. Once again, with feeling, you don’t indict or try someone for BORDERLINE TREASON only for ACTUAL treason.
Corporal
April 17th, 2009
1:40 pm
Swami Dave:
Yep, and let some perp. point a gun at the police and get “lit up” with about 10 rounds and see what happens. “Oh my baby, they didn’t have to kill him like a dog” ………
Corporal
April 17th, 2009
1:46 pm
Doggone/GA:
So you prove my point.
Secession has never been proven to be BORDERLINE TREASON OR ACTUAL TREASON in a court of law …. only by use of arms and the forced retention of the “wayward” state whose will of the people was exercised by their representatives in state Congress assembled.
Do you have another point?
danjonglee
April 17th, 2009
1:46 pm
There are no Tea Parties. No one is protesting Barack Obama. The American people support President Obama 100%. Tea Party protestors are radical right-wing extremists who are considered very dangerous.
Nice picks RW….
Corporal
April 17th, 2009
1:50 pm
Jay:
Serious question. Would you let Bill Ayers post on your threads?
I think the AJC did allow one of his editorials awhile back did they not?
Susan Myers
April 17th, 2009
1:51 pm
These people just do what the voices in their heads tell them to do. They’ve lost their job, are 2 months behind on their mortgage, and their car was just repo’d, but they’re going to go blow the grocery money at ‘Billy-Bob’s Gun and Pawn’.
Yup, that makes sense.
deegee
April 17th, 2009
1:54 pm
Unfortunately for the GOP they have chosen Michael “Machiavelli” Steele and Eric “Talking Points” Cantor to lead them. Obama’s administration so far has been very effective in stabilizing the markets, reining in Wall Street investment bankers, and regaining confidence in the U.S. on the part of our allies. It’s not easy being Boehner right now. NObama didn’t work, Tea Parties are already starting to seem like a short-lived hula hoop craze. What do the 31% that still think that W was a great president have left?
Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
April 17th, 2009
1:56 pm
Corporal 1:14 pm
Taking your lead:
Jay, if Conservative Anchor was banned (with which I agree)for “terroristic threats”, what should be done to one who says that he is, “…the only thing between you and the pitchforks.” Is that not a “terroristic threat” of sorts.
On to another from, I thought Obama was morally convicted our judicial system’s death penalty in all instances even under the heinous crimes. If so, how could he sit as judge, jury, and executioner over an uneducated african bou who had merely taken a man for a ride in a boat?
I guess, to borrow from Foxworthy, if you can’t rationalize irreconciliable contradictions, YOU MIGHT BE A CONSERVATIVE (noting that I am barely right of center.)
Paul
April 17th, 2009
1:57 pm
Comment 12:59
[[Nancy Pelosi’s quote on the tea parties –]]
Underwriting an event is much different than paying at the beginning to get something going. Much of what I’ve read indicates these tea parties were pretty much organized by way of Facebook and other such venues. The fact some special interest groups stepped in partway through to bankroll that which had alread started does not take away from a real grass roots effort.
I’ve also read many of the people attending the tax day events were every much as concerned about spending as about taxes. Latest Rasmussen poll shows “Deficit Reduction” is the #1 priority of 40 percent.
I’d hazard a guess that Spkr Pelosi’s dismissal (also that of other special interest monied groups) is more because, even given the massive, massive spending of recent months, it’s going to pale when health care, education and environment bills come up. So if people are now organizing to show displeasure with spending, the Pelosi strategy of minimizing them as ‘wanting tax cuts for rich people” keeps the focus off the future.
If people are ticked about spending now, just wait.
The other lesson is this: in the last campaign Candidate Obama out-Interneted Candidate Clinton. Republican efforts were weak. Now, a group perceived by the Left to be in opposition to their agenda made quick and effective use of the ‘net to get their message out and gain recruits. That’s quite a lesson. Rather ominous if you’re on the Left.
TW 1:27
Maybe not. But these guys (and gals) somehow manage to get reelected. Bleah.
Swami Dave
I was struck by the similarities used in the attack on the tea party folks as was used on MoveOn:
– paint them as fringe
– paint them as out of touch with Real America
– focus on who gives them money
– say they’re too unsophisticated to understand the real impact of their agenda
But avoid at all costs discussing the issues that drove their formation.