Comments on: The faux outrage over Homeland Security report

By: Bryan Bustard

Bryan Bustard — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:34:33 +0000

Midori,
I am going in half an hour Greenville SC’s teabag rally and I am SICK of being considered an enemy of the country by you liberals here. I’m sick of being told that you have the right to kill your own baby, but the government is doing me a favor by having its Health and Human services people take away a doctor’s right to choose on moral grounds not to abort a child? And abortionists LAUGH at anyone who says a child in the womb is not a human being. IN their own conferences, they mock you and say “Haven’t they ever heard of an ultrasound?” What about my right to choose? The right to choose a doctor who will not only abide by my family’s choice to choose life but who actually believes in the sanctity of life? And yet this Obama and his moron head of Homeland Security, who makes nice to Islamic terrorists who WOULD cut off the heads of any homosexual engaging in homosexual acts as soon as they took power and refers to what they do as “man-made disasters” rather than terrorist acts brand me as a right wing extremist and a potential terrorist and you call me a racist just because my rights are being threatened while you want to deny that sex and birth are united in the natural order? I’ll have you know that I voted for Alan Keys over George Bush several years back and Keys is a WHOLE LOT BLACKER than Obama. And although he once turned me off a bit with his anger, at this point, I’m ready to vote for him the next time he runs too!

By: DB, Gwinnettian

DB, Gwinnettian — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:01:10 +0000

it is a matter of public record that obama voted 4 times against the “Child Born Alive” act in IL. And so would I. The law is a useless piece of crap.

By: N.J,

N.J, — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:29:20 +0000

Actually the initial report examined both left and right wing groups (the U.S. government was infiltrating those violent Quaker’s and Vegan groups,remember that,… in fear that they were going to throw some tofu at the government). And the net determination was that there was virtually no threat from left wing organization, inside the United States, but largely internal terrorism in the United States was a right wing phenomenon.

After the signing of the Patriot Act and the founding of the Department of Homeland Security way back after 9/11. when Bush gave his next State of the Union Address, he reported that this legislation and agency had been effective in stopping ten attempted terrorist acts on the United States. But when you went to read the actual government reports on this, what the reports stopped were all righ wing domestic terrorists, nothing external.

By: jt

jt — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:52:13 +0000

Everything that I said in previous posts was unpatriotic and DB does not stand for doughnut breath. Ms. J. Napolintano looked smart in her Louie Vaton ensemble. DB,Gwinnitian is very intelligent. Also, the IRS is here to SERVE you.

By: Taxpayer

Taxpayer — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:42:21 +0000

Corporal,

I did not wimp out, run away, back down or evade anything. For you to even suggest otherwise is an outright lie from your lips. I’m here and I’m not backing down. Now, if you want to discuss something, then stick to the post and quit being a hypocrite. You do know what you have done that makes you a hypocrite, I assume. As many times as you have accused others of resorting to name calling and not wanting reasoned debate, etc. Read my 11:18 post whenever you are ready to proceed with the issue at hand and we’ll see where it takes us.

By: Taxpayer

Taxpayer — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:20:41 +0000

The bottom line. Sometimes mothers, fathers, doctors, nurses, mid-wives, etc., must stand there and do nothing because sometimes there is nothing viable that they know of, other than a prayer, left to do. It is tragic but it happens.

By: Taxpayer

Taxpayer — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:18:20 +0000

…In discussions of abortion rights, definitions are critically important. The main bills under discussion, SB 1082 and the federal BAIPA, are both definition bills. They are not about what can and should be done to babies; they are about how one defines “baby” in the first place. Those who believe that human life begins at conception or soon after can argue that even a fetus with no chance of surviving outside the womb is an “infant.” We won’t try to settle that one.

What we can say is that many other people – perhaps most – think of “infanticide” as the killing of an infant that would otherwise live. And there are already laws in Illinois, which Obama has said he supports, that protect these children even when they are born as the result of an abortion. Illinois compiled statute 720 ILCS 510/6 states that physicians performing abortions when the fetus is viable must use the procedure most likely to preserve the fetus’ life; must be attended by another physician who can care for a born-alive infant; and must “exercise the same degree of professional skill, care and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as would be required of a physician providing immediate medical care to a child born alive in the course of a pregnancy termination which was not an abortion.” Failure to do any of the above is considered a felony…

By: pat

pat — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:43:43 +0000

DB, Gwinnett, it is a matter of public record that obama voted 4 times against the “Child Born Alive” act in IL. This means that any child born either through a failed abortion, or otherwise can be denied the necessary care to save it’s life. More then likely, a child in this situation would not have been given a name other than “basura”. It is rare but it does happen. So any child born, that is denied health care because of this action, will be blood on obama’s hands. Many argue about abortion, which is an abomination in itself, but few can deny that an actual born child is not human…That is what you have to argue in order to support such a law lest you be called a murderer.

Could you stand there, watch the baby die and do nothing?

By: pat

pat — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:35:37 +0000

I see this for what it really is, which is propaganda. This administration has been trying to marginalize and alienate all who are not on the left. First they lump us all together as republicans, which we all of us are not. Then they proclaim Rush Limbaugh as our leader. Now they are calling us terrorists. The truth of the matter is this, though, those of us not on the left, tend to be the hardest working, most self sufficient, best educated, moral acting, and law abiding citizens in this country. We pay the taxes and ask nothing in return. We take care of our families and do not stand their and complain while waiting for a hand out. On the left you have the opposite. Let’s take a nation wide poll in the jails and prisons and see which way the worst of the worst criminals lean…That should tell you enough.

By: DB, Gwinnettian

DB, Gwinnettian — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:16:18 +0000

Corporal, you’ve got a lot of nerve accusing anyone of “wimping out”, given that you were too chicken to answer Taxpayer’s question:

“show me the baby’s names that Obama voted to kill as you say and by what definition did he kill them.”

You gonna answer that, Corporal? Do you even know what bogus, toxic state legislation you’re even referencing when you go back to munching on that bit of comfort-food talking-point nonsense about Obama “votin’ to kill BAYBEEZ”?

I’m thinking you don’t.