Georgia Senate threatens dismantling of USA
It wasn’t quite the firing on Fort Sumter that launched the Civil War. But on April 1, your Georgia Senate did threaten by a vote of 43-1 to secede from and even disband the United States.
It was not an April Fool’s joke.
In fact, Senate Resolution 632 did a lot more than merely threaten to end this country. It stated that under the Constitution, the only crimes the federal government could prosecute were treason, piracy and slavery.
“Therefore, all acts of Congress which assume to create, define or punish [other] crimes … are altogether void, and of no force,” the Georgia Senate declared.
In other words, in the infinite, almost unanimous wisdom of the Georgia Senate, Michael Vick is being imprisoned illegally, Bernie Madoff should serve no time for stealing $60 billion and the Unabomber must go free. In fact, the federal penitentiary in Atlanta should be emptied of its inmates.
But wait, there’s more.
The resolution goes on to endorse the theory that states have the right to abridge constitutional freedoms of religion, press and speech. According to the resolution, it is up to the states to decide “how far the licentiousness of speech and of the press may be abridged.”
The resolution even endorses “nullification,” the legal concept that states have the power to “nullify” or ignore federal laws that they believe exceed the powers granted under the Constitution. That concept has a particularly nasty legacy. It helped precipitate the Civil War, and in the 1950s and early ’60s it was cited by Southern states claiming the right to ignore Supreme Court rulings ordering the end of segregation.
Finally, the resolution states that if Congress, the president or federal courts take any action that exceeds their constitutional powers, the Constitution is rendered null and void and the United States of America is officially disbanded. As an example, the resolution specifically states that if the federal government enacts “prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition,” the country is disbanded.
In other words, if Congress votes to restore the ban on sale of assault rifles, the United States is deemed to no longer exist.
This, your Georgia state Senate voted 43-1 to endorse.
Now, to be fair, the resolution passed because it was snuck unnoticed onto the Senate resolution calendar on the 39th day of the 40-day legislative session, when senators were trying to handle dozens of bills and scores of amendments. Most did not have an opportunity to read the six-page resolution, which in its description claimed to merely affirm “states’ rights based on Jeffersonian principles.”
However, those who introduced and sponsored the measure have no such excuse. Presumably they read and understood what they asked their fellow senators to endorse. And those sponsors include some of the most prominent members of the Senate —- Senate Majority Leader Chip Rogers of Woodstock, Senate President Pro Tem Tommie Williams, Transportation Committee Chairman Jeff Mullis of Chickamauga, and Chief Deputy Whip John Wiles of Cobb County, among others.
The resolution they sponsored is part of a radical right-wing national movement —- a similar resolution was introduced in the Georgia House but not voted on. It has been introduced in legislatures all over the nation, and has passed in both chambers in Oklahoma and one in South Dakota.
And while the Georgia resolution is legally meaningless and was passed without debate or even knowledge of most senators, it has had an impact. It has been hailed by, among others, those fighting the conspiracy to create a single North American country, by the Confederate States Militia, by the John Birch Society, and the League of the South, which still pines for the cause of an “independent South” and believes that “Southern society is radically different from the society impressed upon it by an alien occupier.”
You have to question the judgment of those who would have any truck whatsoever with such nonsense, and who would jeopardize the reputation of the Georgia Senate to lend aid and comfort to such radical causes and fringe groups.
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AW
April 16th, 2009
10:39 am
There is nothing racist about this resolution. As was said in the article, this has been done all over the country. The federal government has greatly usurped the power, freedom, and soveriegnty of the state, all states. To be fair this usurption of power was brought on by the former bigotry and hatred, but times have moved on and pwer should be returned to where it belongs, the American people. We can not easily control a large federal government, but the American people are the governent when the power is in the controllable hands of the state.
May G-d Bless America, and our President.
md
April 16th, 2009
10:39 am
I believe 23 Staes have introduced some form of comparable resolution. All government is part of the problem and we continue to look to them for solutions. Until “we the people” change the system, the lawyers of the world will continue to write the guidlines that establish their control over us.
When was the last time you were allowed to vote for your own raise???
Susan Myers
April 16th, 2009
10:42 am
The Republican Party has become the party dedicated to sabotaging the American future. You Republicans are the arsonists who burned down our national home. You combined the failed ideologies of the religious right, so-called free market deregulation and the neoconservative love of war to light a fire that has consumed America. Now you have the nerve to criticize the “architect” America just hired — President Obama — to rebuild from the ashes. You do nothing constructive, just try to hinder the one person willing and able to fix the mess you created. You want America to fail in order to prove you’re right about America’s “moral decline”. How can anyone who loves our country support the Republicans? The Republican party has the nerve to blame President Obama for the economic and military cataclysm he inherited. You could have backed our president’s economic recovery plan. Since we all know that half of our problem is one of lost confidence and perception, nothing would have done more to calm the markets and project resolve and confidence than if you had been big enough to take Obama’s offered hand and had worked with him — even if you disagreed ideologically. You had the chance to put our country first. You utterly failed to rise to the occasion.
You have committed treason. Get the hell out.
Billy Bob - the anti-THUG
April 16th, 2009
10:43 am
gttm
I agree, brother. We need more taxpaying African-Americans down at the state capitol protesting the TRILLION DOLLAR federal deficits being created by Obama.
The federal income tax increases will certainly follow…
fearless fosdick
April 16th, 2009
10:44 am
Follow the Money ..I guess reading beyond the headline is out of the question…Right?
If you would have bothered to delve into the context of yesterdays news you would have found that he received a net profit of 2.5 mil from book sales.
Question answered. No spurious shenanigans going on. All legit!
Mrs. Godzilla
April 16th, 2009
10:45 am
Follow the Money
I know this could be difficult but you can do it….Yes you can!
Google “obama 2008 tax return” and you’ll get the answer to where the income came from (I could tell you but it’s best to learn for yourself)
then
google again “obama says his income won’t qualify for tax cut” I imagine
you’ll find 5 or 10 different moments he acknowledged that
next time you need help with your homework, please ask nice.
williebkind
April 16th, 2009
10:47 am
Susan Myers: Yep he and Al Franken are funny! Hey why do you not move to his location and vote for him as senator? Then you can laugh out loud!
lovelyliz
April 16th, 2009
10:48 am
For a group of politicians who want to interfere in some of the most intimate deatails of our lives to complain about the feds interfereing in state matters just goes to show what idiot these folks are as are the voters who chose them often over and over and over again.
Taxpayer
April 16th, 2009
10:49 am
Well, I keep reading quite a diverse range of comments from these teabag supporters and as far as I can tell, they don’t seem to be able to formulate cogent thoughts on what they stand for. They’re all over the map. It seems to range from secession to no taxation without additional representation to deficit reduction to whatever. I mean, can’t you guys try to agree on something amongst yourselves and present it for the rest of us to read. Come on, give it a shot. Try. We’re listening but all we hear is a house full of babble.
Dave Morrison
April 16th, 2009
10:50 am
I’m just glad I moved out of that redneck state! But I did only move to NC, which isn’t much better, if any. LOL.
Californication
April 16th, 2009
10:51 am
Boy you make my blood boil with the stupid comments, Madoff and Vick would be convicted on state laws, not federal. It is NOT a radical right wing movement; it is trying to get our federal government to do what it was created to do, serve the states. Not the other way around. Why does the federal government take the state money then give it back with imposed federal restrictions on it; that is just wrong. But I have to remember this is the AJC, they reported only 1000 people showed up for the rally, but the Atlanta police estimated 15,000. Gee did they mis-speak or just out right left handed lie. When will the left realize that the media for the most part is lying to them? CNN takes the cake when it comes to out right lies…..
No BO here
April 16th, 2009
10:51 am
“taxpaying African-Americans ” isn’t that a oxymoron !
N.J,
April 16th, 2009
10:51 am
He would have to take a salary cut, as Georgia is basically federal tax negative. That is, the state gets back more from the federal government than it pays out, and a much larger percentage than the national average of Georgia federal tax filers get back every red cent that was deducted from their paychecks in the form of income taxes than many other states. The real bite for the majority of Georgia citizens is in the STATE income tax rather than the federal income tax.
The state gets even MORE back in Social Security payments than its citizens shell out, primarily because Georgia has a lower than the national average median income. Almost all Georgia retirees collect much more from Social Security during their few retirement years than they put into it their entire working lives. Again for Georgia Social Security is basically gratis. The federal government still sends more back than is sent to Washington.
Those are the facts that the Republicans legislators obfuscate.
In fact the residents of the blue state would be ovejoyed to get state’s like Georgia OFF the welfare teat. The bulk of its citizens pay zero income taxes and the federal govenment sends more to this state than its citizens send to Washington.
AJC articles state that Georgia has the highest tax rate in the region, but a closer look at these articles indicate that the taxes they are talking about are STATE AND LOCAL, not federal.
The fact that Georgia gets more back from the feds than it pays out means that the largest bite come from State and Local taxes, not Federal taxes.
Georgia has a fairly large percentage of senior citizens living off Social Security. One in 6 Georgia residents lived off Social Security payments. The majority of these earn less than 35,000 a year. Meaning they pay NO State Income taxes either. And that Social Security payments make up one sixth of all income earners in the state. One out of six Georgia residents is basically getting a check from the federal government. Again this exceeds the national average. Get back more than has been paid out.
In almost every way, the vast majority of Tea Party howlers have nothing to complain about. They dont pay federal income taxes. More Georgia residents pay state income taxes than federal income taxes.
Taxpayer
April 16th, 2009
10:52 am
Susan at 10:42,
Amen to that.
md
April 16th, 2009
10:53 am
Many of you posters need to take a long look at what you write before posting. Name calling, sterotypes, generlizations, etc tend to decrease any credibility you may think you have.
How can one take you seriously if you hypocritical?
Does anyone here actually believe everything either party represents? Both parties tend to be extremes in one direction or the other, and both are out for their best interests, not yours.
If you tow the party line of either party are you being true to yourself?
The 2 party system is part of the problem. Maybe its time we all became citizens vs party drones. Think outside the box instead of pushing your peg into either parties square hole.
Bubba
April 16th, 2009
10:53 am
An interesting question for the ‘wingnut’ haters: If you were convinced that the Constitution allowed states to secede, or that the framers intended to allow states to secede, would you support their right to do so now?
lovelyliz
April 16th, 2009
10:55 am
Since they want the federal government to stay out of matters other than treason, piracy and slavery, what do they plan to do without the feds and all the federal tax $$$$$ that pay for things like roads, military bases and programs, farming interests, etc????
Look at their reaction to the feds wanting to cut back the F-22 ptogram. Imagine losing Warner Robins, Fort Benning, Kings Bay…..
lovelyliz
April 16th, 2009
10:57 am
N.J,
10:51 am
Ditto
Brett Pike
April 16th, 2009
11:00 am
Vick’s case could be handled in a perfectly adequate fashion by the state of Virginia, Madoff is a pirate without a ship, and the Unabomber engaged in treason. QED.
Billy Bob - the anti-THUG
April 16th, 2009
11:00 am
Angry Black Man
Why do you think this is the best country in the world?
Brian
April 16th, 2009
11:00 am
Have any of you ever hear of the 10th Amendment to the US Constitution?
Have any of you ever read the 10th Amendment?
If you have, would you please explain to me what it means, because it seems to me that it says that powers not SPECIFICALLY given to the federal government by the constitution are denied to it. I’m not suggesting open nullification, but I’m not a wacko crazy either (as Jay suggests) because I’d like to see the 10th Amendment upheld.
N.J,
April 16th, 2009
11:01 am
P.S. with that larger percentage of retirees who collect Social Security in Georgia, a larger percentage of businesses are making money by purchases made by retirees. Not ever Georgia citizen works. That not the unemployed thats the logic of family income. In the vast majority of families, the children are not income earners. When you factor this non working group of Georgia residents, the retiree income has even a larger effect on making Georgia businesses profitable. The likelihood is that without income from retirees, many Georgia businesses would fail.
With one of the highest unemployment rates in the country, Georgia is currently running off federal money even more with unemployment payment to over eight percent of its working age population, 15 percent of its citizens collecting Social Security checks. That one quarter of all checks coming from federal programs. Could anyone’s business out their afford to LOSE one quarter of their income?
Corporal
April 16th, 2009
11:04 am
Taxpayer:
“Susan at 10:42,
Amen to that.”
You’re being rude again. “I have committed treason” ?
On “patrol” for awhile. Be back later this afternoon …………..
Taxpayer
April 16th, 2009
11:04 am
You teabaggers need to get on the ball here and help out your own who have chosen to defy those feds and their unconstitutional laws. What are you waiting for. Protest and help save these people or are you all just mouthpieces with no real voices to be heard. Come on. DO it. Call your Congressperson and demand that they take action to save these poor people from that illegal taxation without representation. In fact, what are our elected ones doing. Why are they not getting all of us our fed tax money back for us. Did they pass that worthless resolution just to show us all what utter idiots they are or what utter idiots they think we the people are. WELL. What will it be, cowards!
“As the 2009 tax filing season concludes today, these sentencings send a very clear and timely message that attempting to defy or impede our nation’s tax system can result in significant jail time,” said IRS Criminal Investigation Special Agent in Charge Reginael McDaniel.
Demer, 50, was convicted of mailing five false bonds submitted as purported payment of her employer’s tax liabilities, penalties and interest for the years 1996 through 2000.
Prosecutors say Demer hasn’t filed a tax return since 2002. She was also found guilty of giving false testimony in court, enhancing her sentence. In addition to the 5-year, 3-month prison term, Demer was ordered to pay a restitution of $315,829 and was fined $15,000.
Her alleged co-conspirator, Jerry Robert Lahr, 65, of Hurst, Texas, pleaded guilty and testified against Demer at trial. He was sentenced Wednesday to serve 3 years, 1 month in federal prison and ordered to pay restitution of more than $1.1 million.
Lahr had gross income of roughly $2.6 million for the tax years 1996 through 2003, but did not file federal income tax returns or make any payments to the IRS for those tax years, prosecutors said.
Concerned
April 16th, 2009
11:05 am
I truely believe that this country started to break apart long ago. The federal government affords more rights to illegal immigrants than does tax paying citizens and pays more attention to being the world’s policeman than taking care of its own citizens. We have a man in the office of President that has yet to unequivically prove that he has the Constitutional right to hold that office (having been born in Kenya). We have radical groups in this country that threaten the basic freedoms that we all take for granted but yet few have taken their post in the US military to stand up for the Constitution or this country. True the federal government over the years has expanded its control and threatens state’s rights, which is what the Civil War was truely fought over NOT SLAVERY. The Ga legislature has voted to secede from the Union, which basically shows certain members of the state house have lost sight of why they were placed in office to begin with. Rather than getting upset over this non-sense, why don’t you folks get off your soapboxes for once and excercise your right to vote and put people in office that will work for the people rather than themselves or self-serving interests. That’s just my humbled opinion. Feel free to disagree. You have the Constitutional right to voice your opinion, or at least for the time being until the federal government decides to try and take that away as well.
Thogwummpy
April 16th, 2009
11:06 am
When liberals–those in favor of speech restrictions such as campus speech codes, and the Fairness Doctrine–dare to whine about threats to free speech; you see their non-stop hypocrisy for what it is…a petty, childish, higly-selective game of empathized favorites and concocted demons; fraught with idealized fictions and resentful conspiracies. Put no credibility in them; except when they promise to ‘equalize the rich’ (might as well say “liquidate”). They are small, spiteful people.
Californication
April 16th, 2009
11:07 am
Susan@10:42, Yes BO is rebuilding from the ashes, except you missed what the ashes are, they are your tax dollars being burnt up by BO and the libs. Where is all the liberal screaming at the spending? Why are liberals to stupid to see that BO spent more in 100 days than Bush spent in 8 years? These are the same idiots that cried every time Bush wanted to by toilet paper for the white house, but don’t care if BO spends your grand kids money? The total lack of logic on liberals amazes me. If you could “spend” your way out of a recession don’t you think the citizens would have done that? The government needs to get back to reality, make those hard decisions, if you can’t afford it you say NO. You look in your checking account and the balance is zero you don’t spend like a mad man, unless you are our government.
Billy Bob - the anti-THUG
April 16th, 2009
11:07 am
N.J.
Oh King of Obfuscation, the fallacy of your argument is this: there’s no such thing as a “blue state” or “red state”. These are arbitrary geographic labels you use as an afterthought to bolster a weak argument. The fact is there are ZERO states in ANY election where the popular vote went completely Republican or Democratic. In point of fact, none were even close to unanimous.
That kind of fallacious argument may wow ‘em at ACORN, but you ain’t preachin’ to the choir here.
a 53 year old
April 16th, 2009
11:09 am
INTERPOSITION RESOLUTION OF 1956
Here’s a link to the Interposition Resolution passed by the GA House in 1956. Sound familiar?
http://georgiainfo.galileo.usg.edu/interpos.htm
Susan Myers
April 16th, 2009
11:11 am
williebkind @ 10:47,
Uh, I guess the word hasn’t filtered down to your rock yet – the election is over.
Vincent
April 16th, 2009
11:11 am
State sovereignty is a very important and long ignored part of our Constitutional Republic. Our form of government was founded to be made up of powerful sovereign states who legislated locally and overseen by a extremely limited Federal Government which had few duties such as defense of the nation, coining money (backed by gold or silver), and protecting liberty (both social and economic). The Constitution binds the hands of both the States and the Federal government and all rights not expressly given to them by the Constitution are retained by the people. This is a decentralized body of government with the Federal acting as only a coordinating mechanism. The founders then balanced power within the branches of government. It seems that time and time again the statist in our society fail to see the success that this structure has brought to our country and over many decades have tried to centralize all power into the Federal oppressive regime and even more to to put that power in the hands of the president himself. Why are people continuously trying to create this pyramid structure when it was not intended, constantly trying to return to tyranny and archaic forms of murderous government. Some of you people need to seriously think about the role of government. It is the people of this country who make it up, and those people were intended to hold the purchasing power and in turn the legislative power, but always being bound by the Law. Whether it be the Federal, the State, or the democratic mass…….none has the power to override the Constitutional freedoms of the individual. It is only the constant Federal overreach that has given rise to these state resolutions and rightly so. Soon it will be the rise of the people and rightly so. Something must restore balance and proper Constitutional functioning again. Hopefully it will be soon because our dollar cannot bear the inflationary pressures of this failing, Keynesian, collectivist, monolithic, government any longer ……hopefully soon we can decentralize power back to the states, and the people and restore the proper functioning of our government and our free markets again. It is not the role of government to provide charity (whether it be education, health care, or haircuts). This is to be done by privately funded charities giving of their own free will and made up of members giving of their own free will. It’s a great system, the best in the world when allowed to work properly and not undermined by socialists, fascists, communists, and simpletons. It has nothing to do with partisanship, I don’t belong to either party. We have to go back to thinking like the founders did who were much smarter and had better perspective than any of us. They weren’t perfect, but they did produce the greatest form of government ever produced protecting individual liberty.
Taxpayer
April 16th, 2009
11:12 am
Susan,
Just a thought but you might ask Californication to back up his claims with data. We both know that he cannot but I don’t think that he knows that. He does not strike me as being well informed about such things as the source of our massive deficit, amongst other things.
Dave R
April 16th, 2009
11:12 am
Jay, if you continue with this simpleton-like way of writing, you’ll be promoted to your paper’s DC editorial correspondent – wait – that job is already being filled with someone who is clueless.
Vick, the Unabomber and everyone else you mentioned would not be free – they would be charged and likely convicted by state laws that prohibit the very same thing they were convicted under in the first place.
And please, let’s not bring up racism and slavery in the 21st century to belittle an honest effort to complain about the ever-growing power of a centralized government that no longer represents the people. The 1800’s are over and gone, Jay. If you want to make a point about the present, leave the past that has no relevance to today out of your columns.
You’ll certainly make much more sense.
Susan Myers
April 16th, 2009
11:14 am
Californication @ 11:07,
Links, I require links.
Taxpayer
April 16th, 2009
11:15 am
Wow, N.J. Your fallacious use of the red and blue on the white is just, well done. Bravo. Don’t you just love how some manage to pull some of the strangest “arguments” out of all sorts of repositories. I suppose that one was found in a navel.
Taxpayer
April 16th, 2009
11:18 am
A warning for all you businesses out there that are still in business — Don’t take any Confederate Currency. It is STILL worthless. No matter what Newt tries to tell you.
Mike
April 16th, 2009
11:18 am
This report is the reason that I stopped taking the AJC years ago! It is written By IDIOTS for IDIOTS! The next time I google something like “GA SB 632″ and a link to the AJC appears, I’ll know better!
CriticalThinker
April 16th, 2009
11:19 am
American by birth, Southern by the grace of God. May it be that true Americans, who believe in freedom FOR ALL finally wake up and do what is needed,. Good for the Georgia legislature. Hopefully they proceed. This is not a left or right issue, it is the reigning in of an out of control Federal government. For all the cry babies who think it shouldn’t be, its OK, real Americans will fight so you can live to cry another day.
Brian
April 16th, 2009
11:20 am
Way to go Georgia! When will democrats and republicans learn about the USA and economics?
I’ll lay it out for you: The USA = freemarkets, gold standard, small federal government, constitution, bill of rights, the law of contracts, the right to property, liberty, freedom and get this… NO INCOME TAX! (no particular order, please)
We have been raped by Washington and Wall Street since 1913. We are fed up with Washington’s Keynesian slave ship and we want off–enough is enough!!!!
N.J,
April 16th, 2009
11:20 am
All of Georgia’s deficit problems would go away if one thing could occur. Shutting down the worlds tax havens for the rich and large corporation would close the entire hole in the state governments budget. As usual the mainstream media points at elected officials who have tax problems, however this is peanuts. The billions that the corporate wealthy and corporations that avoid taxes on their profits are the real causes of deficits in all of the states.
Basically this Tea Parties went after the wrong culprits. The real problems in the tax code is not the tax code that covers average families and workers. Its the exceptions and loopholes that allow corporations tax cuts that are not available to families and small businesses, the real engine of job creation in the United States. Small businesses, the 98 percent that make less than 250,000 a year in profits got no tax relief until this year, when Obama cut the income taxes on all 98 percent of all small businesses..
Again as usual it is now the STATE business tax that takes a larger bite out of the pockets of small business owners, not the federal income tax. And as usual the conservative solution is to CUT corporate taxes, which will NOT affect the corporations that use tax havens because paying NO corporate taxes is a better solution than paying LOW state corporate taxes. And as usual the largest Georgia corporation totally tax plan their way out of paying the state corporate tax, while its the small businesses that pay almost all of the Georgia corporate taxes.
Of course Georgia Democrats have issued legislation that puts a billion dollars into the Georgia budget without raising taxes on families or small businesses at all. That plan simply prevents large corporations from operating in the state if they put their profits in tax havens. And it puts the power to collect those taxes into the hands of the county and city governments, the local governments, not the state.
Studies also indicate that corporate tax cuts are poor job creators. Every billion dollars in annual corporate tax cuts adds one tenth of a percent job growth over five years.
Numerous Georgia tax experts assert that the only reasons for ELIMINATING the Georgia Corporate tax is that large companies dont pay it, and small companies are too small to put much into state revenues anyway.
Its another regressive tax. The poorer the business, the more tax they pay, the larger the business, the odds are they dont pay it anyway
Taxpayer
April 16th, 2009
11:22 am
Actually, someone like the Unabomber, that abortion clinic bomber and others would be protected by laws in such states as Georgia were it not for the Fed. So, let’s try to be honest here and more Christian-like with some of the what-ifs.
Angry Black Man
April 16th, 2009
11:22 am
No BO @10:51. Find a cliff and take a jump.
The Truth
April 16th, 2009
11:25 am
And Kasim Reed wants to be Mayor of Atlanta! i dont think that would be a good idea.
Angry Black Man
April 16th, 2009
11:27 am
Billy Bob @11:00
This blog is an example of that. Do you think you could say these type of things in any other country and not expect reprecussions? I talk to people from around the world everyday. If this isn’t the best country to live, why are people willing to risk death to get here. I don’t see many Americans beating down the door to move to other countries. When I see masses of Americans moving away from here, then I’ll get worried. Until then, I’ll still protect and uphold the US Constitution against all enemies FOREIGN and DOMESTIC….
Taxpayer
April 16th, 2009
11:28 am
Oh No, N.J. Now you have gone and blasphemed against those that would have you believe that Corporations cannot pay taxes. Now, those people might come out of the woodwork and start spewing their talk about how Corporations just pass it on to the taxpayer even though they neglect to mention such basics as the fact, for one, that these corporations can only pass those taxes on to people that choose to use their products, as long as the laws don’t give them loopholes and such, that is.
a 53 year old
April 16th, 2009
11:29 am
[Interposition Resolution of 1956 and 2009 Senate Resoution 632]
Two resolutions half a century apart, one by the House, one by the Senate.
In 1956 the GA House said, “…That the State of Georgia has at no time surrendered to the General Government its right to…”
In 2009, the GA Senate said, “…that whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void…”
Daniel
April 16th, 2009
11:31 am
I love my country. I don’t mind paying taxes. I have a job. I worked my way throught college. I don’t believe abortion should be legal. I don’t believe that we should try a borrow and spend our way out of debt.( Go see if a bank will let you do that.) I look at the budget and see 10trillion dollars of debt over the next 10 yrs, and I say What is going on. How can people not know that is crazy. I have a teaching degree and a nasters in education technology/history. My job is delivering steaks for tips. I don’t have any sympathy for those who can work but don’t because our government will help them out. The only way to help them out is by taking my tax money and giving it to them. Please somone explain why I am a right winged idot that needs to leave America, because of what I believe.
N.J,
April 16th, 2009
11:33 am
The argument againstv Keynsian economics is patently false. Examining the stock market crash using Kenysian economics, totall predicted the market failure. Lower income taxes on the wealthy resulted in the speculative investment that overvalued the Mortgage Backed Securities. There was 66 times more money invested in the Mortgaged backed securities than there were mortgages out to cover them. All Keynsians predicted the market crash, the collapse of housing prices, the exact unemployment, etc.
The nations greatest economic growth occured during the period of Keynsian economics 1950-1975 with America having the largest annual economic growth on the planet at the time, 3.9 percent.
After Keynsian economics were replaced with supply side. This was cut in half an average of 2 percent per year.
One result of this is that while American workers productivity increased about 70 percent since 1979, their real income has become stagnant.
If American workers simply had their incomes go up with their productivity the average annual salary would be 58,000 dollars a year not the 36,000 it is presently. Companies, corporations would make the same sort of profits they were making before hand, but their employees would have a share in their own productivity. Its not inmvesment that causes growth of GDP. It is worker productivity that drives the economy. 96 percent of money invested in the stock market is used to fund executive compensation and pay dividends to shareholders. 4 percent is used to create new jobs and purchase new equipment. It is worker productivity that creates new jobs and new businesses being opened by existing businesses
Bill
April 16th, 2009
11:36 am
Is it just a coincidence that this bit of consitituional idiocy comes along after the election of the nation’s first African-American president and as we hear of the rise of right-wing hate groups?
Mac
April 16th, 2009
11:37 am
To answer why it’s OK for Casey Cagle to run for Lt. Gov. but too strenuous with his health problems to run for gov.: He’s the incumbent Lt. Gov., which means he doesn’t have to work as hard to get re-elected. Just running for re-election will scare off some potential challengers.
N.J,
April 16th, 2009
11:37 am
I am firmly behind the first Amendment which allow the congress to hire private agencies to deal with foreign military problems in order to avoid the need to create a permanent standing military force. The founders thought it cheaper to pay someone else to go after pirates and terrorists and pay them upon completion of the job than to keep a permanent military force on standby to do it.
This means that the U.S. could pay a private business to deal with the folks hiding in Pakistan, and avoid the responsibility that would come from crossing the Pakistani border to do it. It would become the sole problem of the private mercenaries hired to do it.
DB, Gwinnettian
April 16th, 2009
11:38 am
Wyld, Hindrocket is what the twit actually chose to call himself for some years. You’ll forgive me if I continue calling him that–when I’m not using the preferred term, “Assrocket.”
As for that barely-nine-page DHS report you righties have been crying about for the past few days, here’s the supposedly offensive section in its entirety
(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and
radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from
military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the
capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out
violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist
groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from
the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.
— (U) After Operation Desert Shield/Storm in 1990-1991, some returning military
veterans—including Timothy McVeigh—joined or associated with rightwing
extremist groups.
— (U) A prominent civil rights organization reported in 2006 that “large numbers
of potentially violent neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists are now
learning the art of warfare in the [U.S.] armed forces.”
— (U//LES) The FBI noted in a 2008 report on the white supremacist movement
that some returning military veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have
joined extremist groups
===========
That’s all, folks–a not-exactly-groundbreaking acknowledgment that some returning vets might wind up being recruited to join hate groups, citing other federal reports for examples.
Care to tell me what it is you actually find objectionable about it? I’m all ears.
DB, Gwinnettian
April 16th, 2009
11:39 am
Sorry about the wonky breaks in that copy/paste just above. My bad.
Taxpayer 2
April 16th, 2009
11:44 am
It seems to me that since the new Administration doesn’t care much about our Constitutional rights then why should we pay attention to the bills they pass? The whole point of this country being founded was a very limited Federal Government. It grew the most under Bush and now will grow even more under Obama. A quick history lesson for you folks out there, we are a REPUBLIC, not a DEMOCRACY. The founding fathers didn’t want us to be a country where majority rules but a country with a rule of laws. It amazing how so many supposedly “educated” adults don’t even realize this fact.
It’s funny how everyone complained about Bush intruding into our lives and liberties but has no problem with a Democrat doing it.
J
April 16th, 2009
11:45 am
I smell fear in the comment section and in this article. Very perceptive– I am concerned it will get a lot worse before it gets better. Working,middle class people regardless of their ethinic background are mad and it is not soley at Obama, it is at Washington–Republicans, Democrats, Bush and Obama. The press–this article– (and based on the comments from Washington the current administration) just don’t get it and marginalizing the comments and protest actions as radical extremism is neither productive nor legitmate.
Disunion is a viable option–one that Jefferson, Jackson, and Lincoln did not take lightly. Over 45% of the electorate voted against more concentrated power in Washington. Not soley due to bigotry, or of gun toting extremism, but just plain disgust for the ineptness of everyone involved at the federal level. Our elected officials can’t balance the federal check book, they have bailed out businesses that should have been allowed to fail, they have collectively created policies based on expert opinions rather than common sense–read the book the Black Swan. All known republics and representative governments regularly have such disjointed behavior but isn’t this behavior and the consequencies magnified by a federal government that is too big already and wants to get bigger?
Despite the political rhetoric, there are no “answers” for life’s struggles, there are only consequencies for actions–governments and individuals. Washington can not safe guard us from the greed on Wall Street by AIB and Goldman,or from the financial ignorance of those applying for a mortgage who lie ,or finally from the moral ineptitude in business–banks that buy derivaties knowing that it is like playing roulette at best. How can government protect us from these very human behaviors when its tardiness to policing these issues–derivatives,Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac as couple of examples–helped create the problem–both sides of the aisle are culpable as are those on wall street and main street. It is a conservative cliche to say that the free market provides the side bumpers for life–but up to this point it has been proven true–punishment is severe but effective, in at least generationaly correcting behavior. Things are not different now vs say earlier in the 1900’s, it is just that somewhere in the last 50 years personal responsiblity and the corresponding reprecussions and rewards–a heritage we all have as citizens of this capitalistic republic– got thrown out the window in exchange for federal government involvment.
Succession and smaller centralized government are ideas that go back to the beginning of our country–Jefferson vs. Hamilton, Federalist vs States rights(I would suggest Mr Bookman go back and read the Federalist papers it may be a source for a column given his stance on succession). There is no question we are stronger when we are united country but when you feel that even your own representation–Isakson, Chambliss, Gingrey, Obama, Bush– advocate through their actions more growth and concentration at the federal level then shouldn’t succession be considered? Even if it is just a negotiating ploy by the electorate to be heard?
SuperDave
April 16th, 2009
11:46 am
For all of you people talking secession:
Just exactly what would this “new” country look like? I’m sure only the hard working and successful people would all band together to form their own union. Of course there would be no poverty, no unemployment, no crime, no homelessness, no pollution, no welfare, no public transportation, no Social Security, no Medicare, low taxes, no labor unions, no EPA, no OSHA, no SEC, and all those other tax funded, business busting regulatory agencies. Everyone would make enough to provide their own health care, their own transportation, private schools, decent housing and their own retirement. Everyone would live happily together in their McMansions in their gated communities and prosperity would reign over all.
One question though:
Who would cut the grass and sweep the floors, and build the infrastructure, and cook and serve the food, and build the McMansions and maintain them, and fix the cars, and all the other grunt work that needed to be done in this new nation? Who would work on the farms and factories and in the offices that will be needed to generate the economic wealth that everyone will need to live? And how much would these people be paid for doing that? Because if the “free market” dictates that they can’t make enough at these jobs to pay for all the things the government, under the constitution, has no obligation to provide, you better be ready for one hell of a revolution.
Now, if somebody else has a realistic vision of what this utopian society with only the hard working, moral, ambitious and politically pure people would look like, I’d like to hear it.
But maybe, dumbass liberal that I am, I just don’t get it.
Angry Black Man
April 16th, 2009
11:47 am
DB, if my memory is correct, there was also concern for ex-military gang members returning to their gangs and using their military training to bolster the gangs activites. I remember seeing a re-enactment of a shootout between an ex-soldier who returned to his gang-banging activites and police out in California somewhere.
That doesn’t mean every soldier is being targeted as an extremist. However, people who were extremist before joining the military are being looked at due to the additional training they now have. I know there was an issue at Ft Bragg years ago with Skinheads, but I don’t treat every solder that’s stationed there as a racist.
Sometimes people read more into things and take things all out of proportion. This is one of those times.
DebtSlave
April 16th, 2009
11:47 am
It is interesting to me that the tenor of this blog and the implicit premise behind it is that all such movements towards decentralization and the rectification of Federal overreaching are not just misguided but stupid. This, to me, belies a fundamental ignorance of that fact of which those who founded our country were so profoundly aware: the consolidation of great power in few hands invariably tends toward the corruption and the self-service of those dispensing it.
When one sees the vast and growing extent of federal depredations, e.g. the violation of California’s duly ratified medical marijuana law, or the rampant corruption manifestly evident in the bailout of the banking cartel whom our “representatives” truly serve, it’s hard to view any movement toward localization of government as in error.
Cherokee
April 16th, 2009
11:47 am
I live in Chip Rogers’ district. He’s a blithering idiot. But, he smiles a lot and he’s a Republican, so the dimwits he represents will likely continue to vote for him.
pat
April 16th, 2009
11:48 am
If you ain’t got a leg to stand on just cry racism…LOL!
Vincent
April 16th, 2009
11:49 am
It looks like you know nothing about economics NJ. The Austrians predicted it, the Keynesians were laughing at them. Keynesian economics was the cause of our financial bubbles and credit expansion, it’s being increasingly admitted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCWM2_Yagu0
RW-(the original)
April 16th, 2009
11:51 am
Wyld, Hindrocket is what the twit actually chose to call himself for some years. You’ll forgive me if I continue calling him that
This coming from the poster that gets wildly offended when anyone chooses to address him by any of his previous screen names.
Tsk tsk…
Taxpayer
April 16th, 2009
11:53 am
SuperDave, you are not the only one that does not “get it”. Apparently, even the protesters don’t get it. They get used like a bunch of little tools to push for lower taxes for the likes of people like Koch who wants them for nothing more than to empty his bed pan. And then, he would turn around and charge them for its contents and they would gladly pay. Pathetic.
The Professor
April 16th, 2009
11:53 am
Are there any practicing Christians on this blog?
DebtSlave
April 16th, 2009
11:59 am
Taxpayer and SuperDave, you’re both right: you don’t get it. You suffer under this facile delusion that the state is the friend of the little guys contra business, who serves to protect his interests and rectify social “injustice.” If the extent to which the “little guy” has benefited in capitalistic societies, as opposed to socialist ones fails to fall within your purview, then you will have to remain contented with the condescending, complacent ignorance that characterizes your naive deferral to the State, as though the election of people who only nominally represent you but in reality represent those same corporate interests you loath will in the end bring about anything other than those fruits that the consolidation of power always brings about: corruption and violence. The government and the “evil corporations” are not antagonists, you goons, they are complimentary facets of the same maleficent power structure. Wake up.
Angry Black Man
April 16th, 2009
12:04 pm
@ The Professor 11:53
I’d guess no from reading the discussions here daily. There are people who declare themselves Christians, but I don’t think there are practicing Christians.
Then again, I may be wrong.
No BO here
April 16th, 2009
12:05 pm
Angry Black Man …what are you so angry about?
I Report/ You Whine
April 16th, 2009
12:08 pm
Georgetown Says It Covered Over Name of Jesus to Comply With White House Request
Diseased leadership.
a 53 year old
April 16th, 2009
12:08 pm
Back in 1956, Georgia representatives also resolved to repudiate “General Government” actions:
1956 Interposition resolution excerpt: “…That the State of Georgia has at no time surrendered to the General Government its right to maintain racially separate public schools and other public facilities;
That the State of Georgia, in ratifying the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, did not agree, nor did the other States ratifying the Fourteenth Amendment agree, that the power to operate racially separate public schools and other facilities was to be prohibited to them thereby” LINK: http://georgiainfo.galileo.usg.edu/interpos.htm
N.J,
April 16th, 2009
12:11 pm
In fact one one looks at the entire state of Georgia, the areas that have the most liberal governments like Atlanta return more of the property taxes that they collect in the form of services to the residents of the city. Atlanta’s operating costs spend 21 cents of every property tax dollars on operations and 79 cents on services used daily by the public 54 cents got to the public schools, 24 cents go directly back to Fulton County government and one percent to the State of Georgia.
I have seen small conservative counties in Georgia make some very dumb moves. In a resource sharing agreement one large county agreed to resource sharing with two small ones. The method of paying was a per county population payment to the central resource sharing division. Of course this large county had 75 percent of the population of all three.
What happened was this one county ended up footing almost the entire bill for contruction of new facilities in the two small counties, and built nothing new in its own area. They could have constructed the voter mandated facilities in their own county for half the amount of money that they shelled out to be a member of the resource sharing facility and it took an outsider who just moved into the county to point this out to the elected officials. Who eventually took the hint and left the resrouce sharing consortium. A truly conservative mindset.
Angry Black Man
April 16th, 2009
12:13 pm
The name is actually a nickname that was given to me while I was at the academy. The only thing that makes me angry is when people make blanket assumptions based on racist stereotypes. Both Black and White.
TW
April 16th, 2009
12:13 pm
DB – thanks for the 11:38.
A GOLDEN opportunity exists for a legitimate conservative voice to break from this palin/jtp/hannity/teabagging nonsense. Instead, the right continues to cloak themselves with the dung that has cost them Washington.
Perhaps that legitimate voice will instead be someone who breaks from the left?
Either way, the country is alot stronger when real conservatism is part of the debate, not this meth head redneck white trash version…nobody likes a loser.
I Report/ You Whine
April 16th, 2009
12:17 pm
N.S.A.’s intercepts exceed limits set by Congress- Officials: Agency involved in ‘overcollection’ of communication by Americans
Anybody wanna guess who they are spying on?
It ain’t al Qaeda.
DB, Gwinnettian
April 16th, 2009
12:18 pm
RW, “wildly offended”? Really? whatever.
Here’s the Cracker News Service story Whiner’s whining about.
The comments are a hoot.
Did he ask the Turks to cover Islamic symbols at the mosque he visited? Why did he bow and kiss the hand of the King of Saudi Arabia, the guardian of the holy places of Islam? Frankly, I expect someone who was raised as a Muslim in Indonesia to behave this way.
Don’t ever change, wingers.
Comment
April 16th, 2009
12:21 pm
“Now, to be fair, the resolution passed because it was snuck unnoticed onto the Senate resolution calendar on the 39th day of the 40-day legislative session,…”
Gosh, where have we seen similar tactics lately — the cramdown bill (which was promised to be vetted) and pretty much anything else associated with the current administration!!!
N.J,
April 16th, 2009
12:24 pm
To put it simply, I can understand the Georgia aversion to taxation, however the real culprits are your state and local governments not the federal government or federal taxation. Georgians get back more than they shell out to the feds, but you also have the highest share of state and local taxes of all the states in the Southern U.S. and get the least back in services for those dollars. Most of these dollars are going to special interest pork that creates few if any jobs, and not much for those who pay a lot of the taxes.
Conservative comentators and the local wealthy are again, diverting the attention of the public, misdirecting, etc. Georgia residents pay state and local taxes that are just a tiny bit smaller than those paid in California and New York State, but really get nothing in return for it.
Georgian’s on average pay 9.9 percent of their income, per capita, on State and local taxes. national average is 9.7 percent. New jersey with the highest percent pays 11.8 percent followed up by New York and California.
I personally would expect to get something tangible for those taxes myself. A school. New libraries. Park. Public Golf Course. Something.
Question
April 16th, 2009
12:26 pm
Regarding the Christian postings above, I thought Mr. “Bow or no-bow” declared that the US was no longer a Christian country — anyone know if he did in fact say this???
Taxpayer
April 16th, 2009
12:33 pm
What are you trying to say, DebtSlave. Use a cogent thought process and print your manifesto in clear terms so we can all understand just what you stand for because I still don’t get you.
RW-(the original)
April 16th, 2009
12:33 pm
DB,
It was either go with wildly offended or childishly pouts, but it either way it’s highly hypocritical of you.
Mrs. Godzilla
April 16th, 2009
12:35 pm
Let’s kill two birds with one stone…..
If ya’ don’t like it here, instead of attempting to remove yourself from the union, ‘cuz that’ll never hapen – move to Somalia!
They need lots of white guys and gals with guns!
Back
April 16th, 2009
12:35 pm
SuperDave at 11:46 — the objection is the current attempt to level the field under the guise of being fair, patriotic, doing the right thing, re-defining “tax cuts” and multiple other terms, etc., with the end result being that success is punished and failure rewarded!!! The field is not level, nor should it be!!!
TUESDAY VANDY GIRL
April 16th, 2009
12:38 pm
To susan Myers, (heretofor referenced as S&M),
Putting aside your ideology to support the president, even though you vehemently disagree with his assinine actions, is not patriotism.
Patriotism ot working against his actions… trying to thwart what one might feel is a destruction of American free market capitalism(the only economic system worth living in) and a greater move to socialize everyone into the collective.
I have often said,only free market capitalism fits human nature.. put me in the communal wheat field for the good of the collective, and I will burn it to the ground and then nobody eats tonight. If it is my field, I will tend it with loving care because it is my venue for making profit.
SuperDave
April 16th, 2009
12:41 pm
Debt Slave 11:59
“The government and the “evil corporations” are not antagonists, you goons, they are complimentary facets of the same maleficent power structure.”
I agree with your assessment here. However, what is the solution? Is it to do away with both? What is better, the corporations which the “little guy” is powerless to control, or the government, at least in which he has the representation of a vote. We can’t vote corporations out of existence, but we can vote politicians out of office.
I’m not saying government is perfect. The objective is to have representative, transparent and responsive government.
I am also not anti-business. You are correct that capitalism benefits the “little guy” far more than socialism. I am not advocating socialism. But we need a balance of responsible and representative government to temper the worst of what unfettered capitalism will inevitably create. There is not so much a difference between conservatives and liberals generally, other than the degree to which they believe government should be involved in regulating commerce and the “fair” distribution of wealth created by that commerce.
Hmmmmm
April 16th, 2009
12:43 pm
Taxpayer
Due to all the CRAP that spews out of your computer….. A small “mind” would be an improvement!
N.J,
April 16th, 2009
12:44 pm
Yes Comrade Obama’s 2.7 million dollar income in 2008 was less than his 4 million dollar income in 2007.
Almost ALL of Obama’s income came from his own work. His book sales. And Obama dutifully paid FULL taxes on that 2.7 million.$855,323 in federal income taxes, and $77,883 in Illinois state. Over 900,000 dollars on 2.7 million. No tax loopholes taken, no special “deductions” He paid the top rate on his ENTIRE income.
Taxpayer
April 16th, 2009
12:45 pm
Vandy girl,
We were so looking forward to those postcards from you in your new home in Switzerland. You disappoint. What next, will you choose to stay and take up arms against fellow Americans or just go to work and help support this great nation. Give us a clue of what a private education buys a parent these days because I still have to help my daughter with her selection of a college in a few years and I would certainly regret being disappointed with her education, especially if the cost were supposed to indicate some higher quality output.
N.J,
April 16th, 2009
12:46 pm
Actually before G.W. Bush NSA only spied on communications OUTSIDE of the United States.
getalife
April 16th, 2009
12:46 pm
Let us put to rest the lie that the teabaggers are patriotic.
The South would get whooped again but they are free to leave the country.
Taxpayer
April 16th, 2009
12:47 pm
Hmmmmm. If you have “crap” spewing from your monitor, I suggest that you check your parent’s home warranty for starters. Perhaps the plumbing is faulty.
N.J,
April 16th, 2009
12:51 pm
One unreliable estimate placed the total af 111,000 for the entire United States.
Or about the same number that attend a University of Michigan football game.
The vast majority of the tea parties had attendences of 20, 50, 100, 200. Very, very few about 1 percent of the total tea parties could state they numbered above 1000.
I Report/ You Whine
April 16th, 2009
12:56 pm
No tax loopholes taken, no special “deductions”
BS.
He took over 170,000 dollars in “charitable” contribution deductions including one to Columbia University, which by the way, makes him a tax cheat.
Like it matters anymore, what, with the diseased leadership we have.
N.J,
April 16th, 2009
12:56 pm
And of course the large turnout was regional. Twice as many showed in Baxter,Arkansas as did in Boston in the state of Taxachussetts.
The basic turnout, The Red States, who largely are tax negative, that is they would lose money if the federal government was not returing MORE than the entire state paid, and the Blue States that get less back than they shell out had the smallest parties. Olympia. Washinton drew twice as many as Philadelphia.
Largely the tax complainers came from states that as a whole not only pay NO federal income taxes, but are able to keep local taxes lower because the federal government sends them more than they pay.
J Moore
April 16th, 2009
12:57 pm
I don’t think the libs get it–do you know what will happen to your socialist parasdise welfare state if all of us right-wing extremists quit paying our taxes? You libs might have to get a real job instead of the McJobs you have now. Of course, since you are uneducated, that might be a problem.
Hmmmmm
April 16th, 2009
12:58 pm
Funny, Taxpayer, you could be the poster child for the demwit part….. Typical MORON!
N.J,
April 16th, 2009
1:00 pm
Someone who attended the Atlanta rally, said that his best guess was 2000 and this person is your died in the wool conservative. This person took 100 photos of the rally and estimated from the photos. I have examined the 100 photos on his website, and his estimates seem to be much better than the Atlanta police, who seemed to be counting people who have moved from one area to another several times over, as the crowds were not standing still, but marching around the area.
ConservativeAnchor
April 16th, 2009
1:00 pm
Jay,
What an outright misinterpretation of SR632. You are the most under educated reporter on the AJC staff.
SR632 is a re affirmation of Thomas Jefferson’s Kentucky Resolutions of 1798, which were political statements of state’s rights and strict constructionism. Jefferson wrote them in secret to protest John Adams Alien and Sedition Acts.
If you read the Constitution the States purposefully limited the power of the federal guv’mint and empowered the States with those powers not specifically given to the Federal guv’mint.
“The resolution even endorses “nullification,” the legal concept that states have the power to “nullify” or ignore federal laws that they believe exceed the powers granted under the Constitution.” – CORRECT
“That concept has a particularly nasty legacy. It helped precipitate the Civil War and in the 1950s and early ’60s it was cited by Southern states claiming the right to ignore Supreme Court rulings ordering the end of segregation.” — WRONG
First off, the genesis of southern succession was the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854 which created the territories of Kansas and Nebraska. Stephen Douglas wrote popular sovereignity into those acts allowing settlers in those territories to decide whether slavery would be allowed. Northern politicians saw this as caving in to the slave states and it nullified the Missouri Compromise of 1820. This was the real problem, because it was a compromise between pro slavery and anti- slavery politicians in Congress.
Second, President Buchanan was the 1856 Jimmy Carter. Buchanan thought it illegal to succeed, but also felt it illegal to fight a war over it.
Stephen Douglas and James Buchanan caused the Civil War, usurping the sovereignity of the people in their respective states.
Now one last correction to your nonsense. Have you ever heard of the Compromise of 1877? The hotly contested election of 1876 led to the Compromise of 1877. The Democrat James Tilden and Republican Rutherford B Hayes made a deal. If Tilden would recognize Hayes as President, Hayes agreed to remove federal troops bivouaced in Southern cities to enforce reconstruction. Once this happened Southern legislatures started to adopt laws which led to segregation. And, the Supreme Court in Plessy vs Ferguson of 1896 upheld “separate by equal” by 5 to 4. Not until 1954 Brown vs Board of Education did the Supreme Court reverse this ruling.
The Southern States were in clear violation of Federal Law I.A.W. the 14th Amendment after Brown vs. Board of Education. Remember the Southern States ratified and signed the 14th Amendment. And, governors of the States also voted YES for the Amendment. Had the courts in 1896 ruled against segregation the Southern States would have been in violation of Federal Law back then had they passed segregation laws.
SR632 merely reaffirms that the Federal guv’mint was granted limited powers, BY THE STATES. The STATES created the federal guv’mint.
No one is saying the States can succeed, if they violate the law. In the 50’s and 60’s Georgia segregation laws were illegal. The Governors back then were in clear violation of the law and criminals.
SR632 does not allow Georgia to invalidate laws, which they themselves gave to the Federal guv’mint. But, SR632 does allow Georgia to tell the Federal guv’mint to stick up their ***, if they try to impose gun restrictions, nationalized health care, involuntary servitude (GIVE) Act, they can ever tell the EPA to shove their summer gasoline formulas, if they want.
You know just about enough to cause a great deal of ignorance to be disseminated all across this city.
Taxpayer
April 16th, 2009
1:07 pm
Non-partisan. Citizen movement. For our children…
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich took the podium in front of New York’s City Hall while the crowd of about 2,000 chanted, “We are America!” He urged people to tell their lawmakers to vote against big spending or else “we’re going to fire you.” As the former House speaker left after his 11-minute speech, passers-by yelled, “2012, Newt!” and “Run for president!” But when asked about a run, Gingrich shook his head emphatically and said, “I’m just part of a citizen movement.”
But, Newt! Why do you deceive we the people with your rhetoric. Why, Newt, would you do that! Perhaps a closer look is in order, eh, Newt. You are such a hoot. The proverbial prostitute.
Earlier today we reported that Newt Gingrich had recently been on Fox denouncing Democatic lawmakers for ties to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — despite himself having worked as a consultant for Freddie back in 2006, helping to fight off potential regulation. But it turns out that the Newt-Freddie relationship goes even deeper.
A July 1999 story in the American Banker, a banking trade publication (via Nexis), reports that the former House Speaker had recently been hired by Freddie “to provide strategic counsel on a range of issues,” according to a company spokesman. The same story adds that Gingrich’s former chief of staff, Arne Christenson, was hired that year by Fannie Mae as senior vice president for regulatory policy. Just to remind you, Gingrich is the guy who was saying in September: what you have today is that the rich in Wall Street and the powerful at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had so many politicians beholden to them that, in fact, nobody was going to check them. And so they got away with things that were absolute bologna, and it’s a tragedy.
Oh. And there is more, much more. Isn’t there, Newt. What yarns you do spin, tales you weave, from all those different mouths.
HavingMySay
April 16th, 2009
1:08 pm
Best advice in 25 years and we need to start today. See below:
President Barack Obama called Thursday for the country to move swiftly to a system of high-speed rail travel, saying it will relieve congestion, help clean the air and save on energy.
Appearing with Vice President Joe Biden and Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, Obama said the country cannot afford not to invest in a major upgrade to rail travel. He said he understands it necessarily will be “a long-term project” but said the time to start is now.
Wouldn’t it be nice to have an intersecting point in the midwest, southwest, southeast and other in-between locations, with a primary rail line from Maine to California.
Susan Myers
April 16th, 2009
1:11 pm
Californication @ 11:07
You still hunting those links?
BoneHead
April 16th, 2009
1:12 pm
Mrs. Godzilla,
YOU ARE the reason people still laugh at Georgians.