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		<title>By: Teachers Deserve Better</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teachers Deserve Better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not sure what people thought they would get when they pushed for lower taxes, but this is it. Jay Bookman gets it right in the Atlanta Journal Constitution. And for school systems, the problem has been growing for a while. The Professional Association of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not sure what people thought they would get when they pushed for lower taxes, but this is it. Jay Bookman gets it right in the Atlanta Journal Constitution. And for school systems, the problem has been growing for a while. The Professional Association of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: azazel</title>
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		<dc:creator>azazel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall a motion picture made in GA some years ago, where some adventurers were traveling to the little town of Aintry by river.  The band of adventurers was attacked by loathsome beings who inhabited the mountain forests.  It seems that the General Assembly is composed too much of these mountain people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall a motion picture made in GA some years ago, where some adventurers were traveling to the little town of Aintry by river.  The band of adventurers was attacked by loathsome beings who inhabited the mountain forests.  It seems that the General Assembly is composed too much of these mountain people.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Georgia&#039;s  legislature lives on fantasy island. We&#039;re the reddest of red states, trusting in unregulated business more fervently than in God ... still, we have double-digit unemployment. But Georgia&#039;s GOP just keeps diggin an ever deepening hole, slashing revenues, crippling our ability to save our state and cheerfully singing their mantra as Georgia goes to hell in a handbasket. 
(Apologies to &quot;Up the Down Staircase&quot; and Gilbert &amp; Sullivan):

ODE TO STATE TAX CUTS  
(Sung by the Georgia GOP Angry White Men’s Chorus)

&quot;Ellijay to Brunswick, there&#039;s the din 
of troubles come to shore.
And so there&#039;s but one thing to do, the thing I most adore!
A bankrupt state? An empty plate? A uninsured retiree?
In any situation I answer the frustration
By issuing more tax cuts, Tax cuts for we wealthy!

Our crumbling schools? Wall Street fools? A jobless rate to mourn?
For every new disaster I prove myself the master
by calling for more tax cuts;
&quot;More tax cuts!&quot; I have sworn!

Huge layoffs mean less funds to tax?
Don&#039;t pester me with useless facts!
Failed schools, clogged roads and children&#039;s health
do nationally offend?
You&#039;ve clearly failed to comprehend
the genius of dear St. Ayn Rand!
There is no &quot;We,&quot; just &quot;I&quot;, and
so my tax cuts I&#039;ll defend!

And now upon the nation&#039;s stage a President spurs outrage
More dire than a Depression or a terrorist attack:
Hawaiian/Kenyan heritage? Let&#039;s smear his birth and parentage! 
Do all we can to derail the Socialist, Barack!
He dares some tax cuts to curtail to Reagan levels. He must fail!
I know, I know, &#039;cause Rush said so- No doubt he has our back.

But here in Georgia, we&#039;ll not moan, we&#039;ll slash state taxes to the bone
for &quot;producers&quot; who can fund our campaign treasury.
We&#039;ll make life easy for our friends and toss the voters to the winds
unless they pony up the cash to purchase me!

For we all know big tax cuts go to create jobs and make them grow.
Just let us keep more millions, and we promise you, we&#039;ll share!
We may, we could, we really might 
start businesses and staff them right
with jobs Americans can hold...but who says life is fair?

Hey, don&#039;t blame us if we find 
offshore workers who&#039;re just fine
with half the pay or less so we can pocket what we&#039;ve won!
So maybe we did not make jobs - too bad, boo hoo, you jobless slobs-
It&#039;s my cash, and besides, new homes and yachts are fun.
 
The hour is late, and I must go
the Gold Dome calls me, as you know -
to speak of lost homes, jobs and hope and untold misery.
Yet as Georgia rounds the drain,
I still will chant my proud refrain
It’s tax cuts! Only tax cuts! 
Just big fat whopping tax cuts 
can save this economy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Georgia&#8217;s  legislature lives on fantasy island. We&#8217;re the reddest of red states, trusting in unregulated business more fervently than in God &#8230; still, we have double-digit unemployment. But Georgia&#8217;s GOP just keeps diggin an ever deepening hole, slashing revenues, crippling our ability to save our state and cheerfully singing their mantra as Georgia goes to hell in a handbasket.<br />
(Apologies to &#8220;Up the Down Staircase&#8221; and Gilbert &amp; Sullivan):</p>
<p>ODE TO STATE TAX CUTS<br />
(Sung by the Georgia GOP Angry White Men’s Chorus)</p>
<p>&#8220;Ellijay to Brunswick, there&#8217;s the din<br />
of troubles come to shore.<br />
And so there&#8217;s but one thing to do, the thing I most adore!<br />
A bankrupt state? An empty plate? A uninsured retiree?<br />
In any situation I answer the frustration<br />
By issuing more tax cuts, Tax cuts for we wealthy!</p>
<p>Our crumbling schools? Wall Street fools? A jobless rate to mourn?<br />
For every new disaster I prove myself the master<br />
by calling for more tax cuts;<br />
&#8220;More tax cuts!&#8221; I have sworn!</p>
<p>Huge layoffs mean less funds to tax?<br />
Don&#8217;t pester me with useless facts!<br />
Failed schools, clogged roads and children&#8217;s health<br />
do nationally offend?<br />
You&#8217;ve clearly failed to comprehend<br />
the genius of dear St. Ayn Rand!<br />
There is no &#8220;We,&#8221; just &#8220;I&#8221;, and<br />
so my tax cuts I&#8217;ll defend!</p>
<p>And now upon the nation&#8217;s stage a President spurs outrage<br />
More dire than a Depression or a terrorist attack:<br />
Hawaiian/Kenyan heritage? Let&#8217;s smear his birth and parentage!<br />
Do all we can to derail the Socialist, Barack!<br />
He dares some tax cuts to curtail to Reagan levels. He must fail!<br />
I know, I know, &#8217;cause Rush said so- No doubt he has our back.</p>
<p>But here in Georgia, we&#8217;ll not moan, we&#8217;ll slash state taxes to the bone<br />
for &#8220;producers&#8221; who can fund our campaign treasury.<br />
We&#8217;ll make life easy for our friends and toss the voters to the winds<br />
unless they pony up the cash to purchase me!</p>
<p>For we all know big tax cuts go to create jobs and make them grow.<br />
Just let us keep more millions, and we promise you, we&#8217;ll share!<br />
We may, we could, we really might<br />
start businesses and staff them right<br />
with jobs Americans can hold&#8230;but who says life is fair?</p>
<p>Hey, don&#8217;t blame us if we find<br />
offshore workers who&#8217;re just fine<br />
with half the pay or less so we can pocket what we&#8217;ve won!<br />
So maybe we did not make jobs &#8211; too bad, boo hoo, you jobless slobs-<br />
It&#8217;s my cash, and besides, new homes and yachts are fun.</p>
<p>The hour is late, and I must go<br />
the Gold Dome calls me, as you know -<br />
to speak of lost homes, jobs and hope and untold misery.<br />
Yet as Georgia rounds the drain,<br />
I still will chant my proud refrain<br />
It’s tax cuts! Only tax cuts!<br />
Just big fat whopping tax cuts<br />
can save this economy!</p>
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		<title>By: N.J,</title>
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		<dc:creator>N.J,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lower taxes have NEVER increased revenues. All the assertion made to this effect has been false. A recent analysis of the last 30 years of Reaganomics has proven that the so called &quot;Supply Side&quot; economics had no effect on increasing government revenues. All Reagan did to increase government revenues was to cut INCOME taxes, and increase payroll taxes, which before 1984, did not generate any surpluses to be used for anything other than paying for Social Security. Reagan then immediately started borrowing the surpluses, rather than putting them aside to cover the future needs of the Baby Boomers when they retired, as was the original intent of creating Social Security surpluses to begin with.

On the contrary, lowering income taxes and using Social Security Surpluses to offset losses due to the initial Reagan Tax cuts not only caused the current fears that Social Security will go bankrupt, but also caused the massively large national debt which which has gone up from about 800 billion dollars in 1979 (the ENTIRE accumulated national debt from the creation of the United States in the 1780s) to nearly 11 trillion dollars today. The cause of the current national debt is not so much government spending, as it is the lowering of the top marginal tax rates, which simply raises taxes on the wealthiest Americans,and does not raise the rates on middle class Americans which was the intent of the founders of the United States (this can be read in the letters of Jefferson, Adams, and Franklin as well as in the Constitutional Convention speech of James Madison)

The &quot;Voodoo Math&quot; that asserts that lowering taxes raises government revenues has long been proven false. All that occured was the slight of hand which lowered taxes on the wealthy, increased another form of taxation on the working poor and middle classes, and started borrowing from foreign governments to replace the revenues lost by cutting taxes on the wealthy. Not a single job is every created by merely cutting taxes.  This concept defies all the basic rules of economics. No tax cut will create a single job, The only thing that will create a job or justify creating one is if there is enough demand for whatever product or service a business is offering so that the new job will at least earn enough money to pay for the salary and benefits of the employee, and create an additional profit for the business owner. No amount of tax cuts can justify the creation of a job unless the demand for what is produced or offered exists. If it does not there will be NO additional taxable income to increase government revenues. 

This explains why the economy during the last eight years of Bush Tax cuts was the most tepid since the end of World War II with an average growth of GDP of 2 percent, while the years of the highest marginal tax rates, between 1950 and 1979 saw average growth rates of 3.9 percent per year every year. With no business cycle in the economy at all. No bear markets, no bull markets, no recessions, no booms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lower taxes have NEVER increased revenues. All the assertion made to this effect has been false. A recent analysis of the last 30 years of Reaganomics has proven that the so called &#8220;Supply Side&#8221; economics had no effect on increasing government revenues. All Reagan did to increase government revenues was to cut INCOME taxes, and increase payroll taxes, which before 1984, did not generate any surpluses to be used for anything other than paying for Social Security. Reagan then immediately started borrowing the surpluses, rather than putting them aside to cover the future needs of the Baby Boomers when they retired, as was the original intent of creating Social Security surpluses to begin with.</p>
<p>On the contrary, lowering income taxes and using Social Security Surpluses to offset losses due to the initial Reagan Tax cuts not only caused the current fears that Social Security will go bankrupt, but also caused the massively large national debt which which has gone up from about 800 billion dollars in 1979 (the ENTIRE accumulated national debt from the creation of the United States in the 1780s) to nearly 11 trillion dollars today. The cause of the current national debt is not so much government spending, as it is the lowering of the top marginal tax rates, which simply raises taxes on the wealthiest Americans,and does not raise the rates on middle class Americans which was the intent of the founders of the United States (this can be read in the letters of Jefferson, Adams, and Franklin as well as in the Constitutional Convention speech of James Madison)</p>
<p>The &#8220;Voodoo Math&#8221; that asserts that lowering taxes raises government revenues has long been proven false. All that occured was the slight of hand which lowered taxes on the wealthy, increased another form of taxation on the working poor and middle classes, and started borrowing from foreign governments to replace the revenues lost by cutting taxes on the wealthy. Not a single job is every created by merely cutting taxes.  This concept defies all the basic rules of economics. No tax cut will create a single job, The only thing that will create a job or justify creating one is if there is enough demand for whatever product or service a business is offering so that the new job will at least earn enough money to pay for the salary and benefits of the employee, and create an additional profit for the business owner. No amount of tax cuts can justify the creation of a job unless the demand for what is produced or offered exists. If it does not there will be NO additional taxable income to increase government revenues. </p>
<p>This explains why the economy during the last eight years of Bush Tax cuts was the most tepid since the end of World War II with an average growth of GDP of 2 percent, while the years of the highest marginal tax rates, between 1950 and 1979 saw average growth rates of 3.9 percent per year every year. With no business cycle in the economy at all. No bear markets, no bull markets, no recessions, no booms.</p>
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		<title>By: DaleC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaleC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To continue witht he &quot;dog&quot; analogy. My dog provides companionship (pursuit of happiness) and barks at prowlers (defense). THose are both appropriate roles fior the dog (government).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To continue witht he &#8220;dog&#8221; analogy. My dog provides companionship (pursuit of happiness) and barks at prowlers (defense). THose are both appropriate roles fior the dog (government).</p>
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		<title>By: DaleC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaleC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rush Limbaugh - you said higher taxes are ok if &quot;it would help us become more energy independent, do a better job with educating our children and slow down the cost increases of medical care&quot;


I will be ok if you can show me where the trillion plus dollars spent have accomplished that so far. Since the Great Society, and it&#039;s dramatically increased social spending, all of your three indicators have worsened.

Why will more money help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rush Limbaugh &#8211; you said higher taxes are ok if &#8220;it would help us become more energy independent, do a better job with educating our children and slow down the cost increases of medical care&#8221;</p>
<p>I will be ok if you can show me where the trillion plus dollars spent have accomplished that so far. Since the Great Society, and it&#8217;s dramatically increased social spending, all of your three indicators have worsened.</p>
<p>Why will more money help?</p>
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		<title>By: DaleC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaleC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Tonto - Unless you remove intergovernmental holdings, which is REAL money owed to REAL people, there were no Clinton surplusses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tonto &#8211; Unless you remove intergovernmental holdings, which is REAL money owed to REAL people, there were no Clinton surplusses.</p>
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		<title>By: DaleC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaleC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@G - apologies, my commetns were directed at &quot;gittm&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@G &#8211; apologies, my commetns were directed at &#8220;gittm&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DaleC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaleC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ G - It isn&#039;t that they hate the government, but that they know it&#039;s function. They know it is ill suited to provide retirement plans, invest in businesses and educate our children. You ask if I would hire a person who hates dogs to take care of my dog? No, but I would hire someone (Conservatives) who realizes that my dog (Federal government) is unable to do my taxes (run businesses), mow my lawn (retirement) or wash my car (operate schools).

Also, Bush and Company were not Conservatives and DO NOT hate government. If they did, they wouldn&#039;t have grown it so much.

Anarchists hate government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ G &#8211; It isn&#8217;t that they hate the government, but that they know it&#8217;s function. They know it is ill suited to provide retirement plans, invest in businesses and educate our children. You ask if I would hire a person who hates dogs to take care of my dog? No, but I would hire someone (Conservatives) who realizes that my dog (Federal government) is unable to do my taxes (run businesses), mow my lawn (retirement) or wash my car (operate schools).</p>
<p>Also, Bush and Company were not Conservatives and DO NOT hate government. If they did, they wouldn&#8217;t have grown it so much.</p>
<p>Anarchists hate government.</p>
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		<title>By: Rush Limbaugh for President</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rush Limbaugh for President</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dusty,
Rush Limbaugh has no influence on the right wingers like you? Who are you kidding? Tom Delay was majority leader:
 WASHINGTON —  Rep. Tom DeLay (search), R-Texas, said Wednesday he would temporarily step down as House majority leader after he and two political associates were charged by a Texas grand jury with conspiracy in a campaign finance scheme.
I&#039;d say these two guys were and still are influential in the Republican Party. You my friend need to stay better informed about your own party.

The Iraq war was a war of choice. I was behind the President because he had me convinced (as he did the Congress that it was necessary). The we find no weapons of mass destruction, no plan for the peace, billions wasted and 7 years later we are still there. I am not debating the fact that we are there I am sayng it was poorly executed and almost no one argues with that except the least informed. And I forgot about Katrina. Terrible job. 
Dusty, while Bush and Co. were running around in Iraq Afganistan has gotten much worse. The Taliban have made a huge comback. This is all well documented.

Please point out to me the people that liberal policies have made dependent.Who are you talking about? Old people are dependent on social security. Wounded veterns are dependent on the VA. Children are dependent on thri parents, students are dependent on their teachers, the poor and infirmed are dependent on the generosity of the community at large. Are these the people you speak of as DEPENDENT? Bush was in office for 6 years with a Republican dominated congress. Why didn&#039;t he change all these liberal polices you speak of?

Dependency leads to socialism and communism. Really? Can you point to any examples?

The Dusty formula- Assistance = DEPENDENCY. DEPENDENCY = Socialism/Communism. If that were the case we should have turned into a socialist country after Social Security was created. My mother lives on it and she is not a socialist i promise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dusty,<br />
Rush Limbaugh has no influence on the right wingers like you? Who are you kidding? Tom Delay was majority leader:<br />
 WASHINGTON —  Rep. Tom DeLay (search), R-Texas, said Wednesday he would temporarily step down as House majority leader after he and two political associates were charged by a Texas grand jury with conspiracy in a campaign finance scheme.<br />
I&#8217;d say these two guys were and still are influential in the Republican Party. You my friend need to stay better informed about your own party.</p>
<p>The Iraq war was a war of choice. I was behind the President because he had me convinced (as he did the Congress that it was necessary). The we find no weapons of mass destruction, no plan for the peace, billions wasted and 7 years later we are still there. I am not debating the fact that we are there I am sayng it was poorly executed and almost no one argues with that except the least informed. And I forgot about Katrina. Terrible job.<br />
Dusty, while Bush and Co. were running around in Iraq Afganistan has gotten much worse. The Taliban have made a huge comback. This is all well documented.</p>
<p>Please point out to me the people that liberal policies have made dependent.Who are you talking about? Old people are dependent on social security. Wounded veterns are dependent on the VA. Children are dependent on thri parents, students are dependent on their teachers, the poor and infirmed are dependent on the generosity of the community at large. Are these the people you speak of as DEPENDENT? Bush was in office for 6 years with a Republican dominated congress. Why didn&#8217;t he change all these liberal polices you speak of?</p>
<p>Dependency leads to socialism and communism. Really? Can you point to any examples?</p>
<p>The Dusty formula- Assistance = DEPENDENCY. DEPENDENCY = Socialism/Communism. If that were the case we should have turned into a socialist country after Social Security was created. My mother lives on it and she is not a socialist i promise.</p>
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