Not quite a depression

A rainy Saturday.

Spent with Turbotax.

It promises to be such a lovely day.

(What time does basketball start?)

140 comments Add your comment

Taxpayer

March 28th, 2009
8:43 am

We’ve already had our TurboTax™ weekend, electronically filed and received our acceptance e-mails. It sure beats the old days of filling out all those forms and crunching numbers with the slide rule — just kidding about the slide rule — and mailing off those reams of processed pulp.

I Report/ You Whine

March 28th, 2009
8:52 am

So how’d you cheat the government this year, Bookman?

I know how creative you liberals are, was the kids summer camp a business expense?

Did you “accidentally” overlook the chauffeur and limousine?

Be careful, that Turbotax program is “tricky,” even financial geniuses, economy savers and tax gurus have been “fooled” by it, for instance, our new IRS Cheat, er, I mean chief.

Unreal.

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
9:10 am

Taxpayer:

I still have my K&E ($50 in 1965) in mint condition (including holster). I love showing it to students and asking them if they know what it is and what’s it called ………….. :o )

R. M. McLeod

March 28th, 2009
9:16 am

In the 3/26 paper you said this is the “greatest economic crisis in 80 years”. Would you compare conditions today with those in 1982 (27 years ago)? Please consider drop in GDP, unemplotment and any other measurements you choose.

jt

March 28th, 2009
9:24 am

yep, its that time of year again where over a 100 million sheeple will voluntarily give up every aspect of their families privacy to prying goverment worker’s eyes.
amazing.

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
9:26 am

Jay:

Continuing from yesterday ………….

There is a very interesting short article in the current issue of “Vietnam Magazine” entitled “Vietnam’s Shadow Reaches Obama”.

You probably can’t bring it up on the internet yet as they delay that a few weeks but here is an excerpt:

“…….. Newsweek’s ominous January 31 cover proclaimed: ‘Obama’s Vietnam’ and an essay described a 2008 interview with Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute, the White House military adviser coordinating efforts in Afghanistan …….. ‘we have never been beaten tactically in a fire fight in Afghanistan’, Lute said. Even to the casual students of the Vietnam War, his statement has an eerie echo.”

“One of the iconic exchanges of Vietnam came, some years after the war, between Colonel Harry Summers, a military historian, and a counterpart in the North Vietnamese Army. As Summers called it, he said, ‘You never deafeated us in the field’, to which the NVA officer replied, ‘That may be true. It is also irrelevant’.

WE MUST BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL …………………

I Report/ You Whine

March 28th, 2009
9:31 am

Michael Totten has another good dispatch from Iraq-

Embedding with the United States military in Baghdad at the end of the surge is no longer like risking your neck in a war zone. It’s more like going on ride-alongs with the police. But it’s not like riding along with the New York police, or even with the Mexico City police. Baghdad is still Baghdad. While no longer a city at war, it’s not exactly peaceful and normal yet either.

http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2009/03/baghdad-in-frag.php

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
9:32 am

To jt:

I believe in the rule of law, the Constitution, paying one’s taxes, etc.

I spent my first years in federal law enforcement with IRS Criminal Investigation Division working tax fraud cases. After three years I gave it up and moved on to something else. I saw then we had a very unfair, unmanageable, non-compliant, basically out of control tax system.

I know President Obama is setting up a “commission” to study the problem and make changes. It’s too big for that and nothing substantial will come of it.

We have got to scrap the old system and find a better way.

lwwmm7

March 28th, 2009
9:38 am

Be careful when you use the word “holster” around these parts. Next thing you know, you will be accused of taking a gun to school and threatening students with it.

lwwmm7

March 28th, 2009
9:39 am

I’m so old I still remember pocket protecters.

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
9:46 am

To lwwm7:

True. Remember when we played “mublelypeg” in school ?

jt

March 28th, 2009
9:48 am

corporal- I too believe in the rule of law, the constitution, and I pay my taxes to protect my family and home.
but….did you know that the former USSR had a progressive and unmanagebal income tax system routinely used for political purposes, had a constitution that was ignored and even joked about, and a legal system that amounted to whoever had the most money won?
maybe the europhiles in obamas cliche will emulate europe and give us a consuption tax.
the repubs sure blew it when they had a chance.
Where is our Gobachev? what a real hero for Americans.

Redneck Convert

March 28th, 2009
9:50 am

Well, with all the computers they got I don’t see why they just can’t send us a bill like the phone co. and tell us how much we owe them. They already know about every penny we make. That way about half of us could tell them the check is in the mail and never send it. But no, they got to take money out of our paycheck and make us fill out a bunch of forms to get any of it back. It’s downright UnAmerican.

That’s why I think people are onto something about this Flat Tax or the Fair Tax. I think the Fair Tax is the way to go. Now I ain’t crazy about paying 30% more for a loaf of bread or a jug of milk but it would force alot of us to stop spending so much. We could even see a comeback of bartering where I fix your leaks if you give me some of the eggs your chickens lay. That way we cut the guvmint out of things and starve it till it has to cut back on all this spending. Instead of all this foreign aid we give away to countrys we could maybe give Mexico a bunch of home grown vegetables and they would keep their illegals home.

Anyhow, I’m real sorry Bookman brought up taxes this a.m. It will bring all the tax nuts out of the woodwork and somebody’s just bound to bring up Ron Paul. The libruls will bring up how unfair the Fair Tax is and the Conservatives will start talking about guvmint Socialism and how bad it is for guvmint to be stealing their wages. It never ends.

Have a good weekend everybody. I’m getting off of this blog before the fussing really starts and Bookman has to ban another 30 or 40 people. Like I said before somebody could get rich with a bumper sticker that says Honk If You’ve Been Banned By Bookman.

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
9:50 am

To Iwwmm7:

Excuse me ….. “mumbledypeg”.

mum⋅ble⋅ty⋅peg 
–noun a children’s game played with a pocketknife, the object being to cause the blade to stick in the ground or a wooden surface by flipping the knife in a number of prescribed ways or from a number of prescribed positions.

G

March 28th, 2009
9:51 am

Yep, taxes…been there, done that.

Now the Rushpublicants are getting all precise and lawyerly on us:

“There are things that you can call waterboarding that I am thoroughly convinced are not torture,” said Ashcroft in a video shot by an attendee at the UT lecture. “There are things that you can call waterboarding that might be torture. And the point that ought to be understood is that throwing a term around recklessly for its emotional content doesn’t really get you anywhere.”

http://rawstory.com/...

Hey wouldn’t it be great if we could confuse everyone into thinking the torture the Rushpublicants committed somehow was not torture? Where have we seen this story before. Let me think . . . (a ton of formerly secret, now widely discredited memos by former Attorney General Ashcroft’s folks in the Justice Department that may cause their authors like John Yoo to be disbarred because they are so immoral and wrong as a matter of law.)

lwwmm7

March 28th, 2009
9:55 am

Yeah, Corp, that was when every boy had a pocketknife and nobody ever fought with them on the playground. About the worst offense was chewing gum in class or shooting a spitball.

jt

March 28th, 2009
9:57 am

lwwmm7

March 28th, 2009
9:59 am

Maybe we could have a weekend feature call the “unblog”, and relax after a week of insults and anonymous name-calling and just swap ideas and stories. Nah- what was I thinking?

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
10:03 am

HEADLINE: “Judge Rules ‘Under God’ May Stay in Texas Pledge of Allegiance…”

I think I’ll ask the ACLU to file a suit to remove “Texas” from the pledge. Didn’t that area get stolen from Mexico? That could offend some folks.

And while they’re at it, let’s have “America” removed from our national pledge …. I am sure there are some “native *********’s” who are upset with that.

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
10:07 am

To G:

I was waterboarded in bootcamp. It taught me a valuable lesson.

To jt:

I hear you.

To lwwmm7:

You only committed misdemeanors. I went to the principal’s office for felony “metal heeltaps” on my shoes … too much noise on the wooden floors.

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
10:12 am

HEADLINE: “New WTC skyscraper loses ‘Freedom’…”

Mor politcal correctness run amok ……….. sad.

HEADLINE: “CNN/Commentary: ‘Post-racial’ America isn’t here yet …”

And it never will be as someone will always have a gripe …..

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
10:15 am

Jay !!!

HEADLINE/MSNBC: “The fierce debate behind Obama’s Afghan plan …”

“Biden urged caution against a quagmire; military argued for more troops…”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29927145/

G

March 28th, 2009
10:15 am

http://washingtonindependent.com/36204/after-the-laughter-grim-gop-numbers

Oh those Rushpublicants – the party that supposedly hates taxes wants to raise taxes on the poorest Americans. Deja vu.

See the CTJ report below (pdf) – but be warned: There are numbers in it.

http://www.ctj.org/pdf/housegopplan20090327.pdf

lwwmm7

March 28th, 2009
10:16 am

And sometimes punishment was as harsh as having to dust the erasers, empty the pencil sharpeners, and other self-esteem destroying tortures. Not to mention-gasp- a couple of licks with a well-used paddle every now and then. No wonder we turned into the kind of men we are today!

ByteMe

March 28th, 2009
10:18 am

There’s a “Texas Pledge of Allegiance”? They needed a special one all for them?

You think there’s one for Alaska?

ByteMe

March 28th, 2009
10:20 am

G: how do you think they “crunched the numbers” on a budget plan built on whipped cream and popsicles?

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
10:28 am

To G:

What about my 10:07? Come on, take the bait ……. :o )

G

March 28th, 2009
10:30 am

ByteMe,

Simple. It’s because the nuts dreamed it up.

G

March 28th, 2009
10:32 am

Bill Maher hammering the budget right now. (4+ / 0-)
Good one from Bill Maher:

“The right wing is obsessed with the fact that Obama uses a teleprompter. Why? Because unlike Bush, he can actually read it.”

Taxpayer

March 28th, 2009
10:34 am

G,

I read that CTJ report. These Republicans sure do come up with some strange alternative plans.

G

March 28th, 2009
10:37 am

C,

>> I was waterboarded in bootcamp.<<

All I have to say is, that would explain a lot.

G

March 28th, 2009
10:40 am

Taxpayer @ 10:34,

Mindboggling, isn’t it? On second thought, not really.

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
10:42 am

Rainy mornin’, all.

While I always considered myself middling-personal-computer-savvy going back decades, I resisted using tax software for years. A weird part of me actually enjoyed the process:

1. Get the forms at the library or post office

2. Collect the filed stuff and try to fill in the rest of the memory-hole with discarded check registers and cancelled checks (remember those?)

3. Read up on any pertinent changes on the last tax year

4. Pull it all together at the kitchen table, usually at one two- or three-hour sitting. This part was the most pleasurable part of the annual ritual for me. It was like doing a new jigsaw puzzle each year. (I think I might be the only American who felt that way; I’ve yet to meet anyone who agreed/agrees.)

5. Show work to not-terribly-interested spouse who always–foolishly, sometimes–trusted that I knew well enough what I was doing and signed off her part of the joint return.

5. Photocopy a file copy, and mail (just prior, one hoped, a really-last-this-time check of the math to make sure nothing got screwed up), and the customary 4-6 week wait for a modest refund. Well, modest if I’d done everything right the year before, although I’m a chronic wimp about witholding and tend to err on the conservative side so I give the Gubmint an interest-free loan every year. I’m still that way; I always figure next year I’ll have less to deduct and I don’t want to wind up owing anything, although I should work it so I do owe a bit. But I never do.

All that paper-based stuff changed a few years back when I went to see a CPA to hire his services after a particularly tricky tax year. I sat and watched him plug a few numbers into his PC. Suddenly I decided I wanted that hour or so of my life back spent filling in the forms, and having all the math checked for me seemed a good thing too.

So I went TurboTax and never went back, although I do hope the competitors keep Quicken on their toes, because they’ve gotten pretty greedy with the pricing of late (and I really, really resent how they structure their pricing so as to make their online version the way they want you to go–mostly I’m peeved at how they want our information in their damn databases to peddle to others to go so cheap. The greedy fockers ought to have to pay usfor that. But I digress.)

Anyway, that’s how I remember it.

Anything interesting in this comments thread? I’ll have a look now.

Lee

March 28th, 2009
10:49 am

Of all the regular bloggers on here, Redneck Convert is usually the guy who makes the most sense.

Scary….

Regarding taxes, was it John Marshall or Daniel Webster who coined the phrase “the power to tax is the power to destroy.”

How very true.

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
10:55 am

G @ 9.15, I don’t think anyone anticipated the House GOP tax plan would reward rich folks at the expense of the poor.

(or a breech of the levees.)

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
10:57 am

was it John Marshall or Daniel Webster who coined the phrase “the power to tax is the power to destroy.”

I don’t know. If only there were a massive search engine out there where one could simply plug in a phrase between quotation marks and find instances of it appearing verbatim!

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
10:59 am

What about my 10:07? Come on, take the bait ……. :o )

Face facts, Corporal. You’re not the master baiter you think you are.

Taxpayer

March 28th, 2009
11:00 am

The house GOP tax plan not only further rewards the rich at the expense of the working class poor, it also increases the deficit by another 300 billion. How do these GOP manage to spout their rhetoric about wanting to lower the deficit and debt while proposing to increase it. I know just the right word for that GOP plan — NO!

ByteMe

March 28th, 2009
11:01 am

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:02 am

“The right wing is obsessed with the fact that Obama uses a teleprompter. Why?”

Honestly? beyond the obvious–the right wing is told that something is Very Good or Very Bad and they obey their commands like the good obedient authoritarian-receptive personalities that they are?

Mostly it’s just cloudy memory. They’ve forgotten that (for example) before a press conference, say, President Bush would read prepared remarks. From a teleprompter or a printed page; I don’t really remember which, but I certainly didn’t care. ditto for other Presidents.

Maybe the reason they’ve forgotten is because Bush held very few prime-time press conferences.

Taxpayer

March 28th, 2009
11:02 am

Corporal learned that fish have gills — not humans.

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
11:07 am

To G:

You’re no fun.

I have a good idea. Put the whiney “non-combatants” through SEAL training (just the several weeks of hypothermia/semi-drowning/sleep deprivation/food deprivation/beach part) and then give them a chance to talk. If they don’t, guess what? Back for SEAL refresher trianing and continue the cycle until they do ………. what’s good for our troops should be fine for them …………… :o )

Taxpayer:

Did you see my 9:10 ?

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:09 am

Anyone else find it amusing how hair-trigger the righties have been with the term “tax cheat” to describe, basically, anyone who’s audit has found them out of compliance and needing to pay back taxes?

For the record, by this standard I’ve been a “tax cheat” on two occasions that I can recall. One of them was after I’d asked the advice of my company’s comptroller, who was also a part-time tax preparer and a CPA, about our tax liability on a spouse’s few weeks of unemployment compensation. Hey, we all screw up–he did with the advice, I did taking it, but I asked the Feds nicely to waive the fines and they did.

Some years later I was a “tax cheat” again–sold some funds, didn’t account for the capital gain properly, the Feds told me they had to based their assessment on some crazy best-case figure. Again, I filed the right form, asked nicely for any fines to be waived, and they were.

Guess I can’t be in the Cabinet now. Oh well.

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
11:09 am

To DB, Gwinnettian @ 10:59:

Congratulations ! You have now made it as #4 on my list. You have lost all future rights at dialogue with me. I know you’re terribly upset by this but I feel great! Goodbye forever !

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:12 am

Maybe we could have a weekend feature call the “unblog”, and relax after a week of insults and anonymous name-calling and just swap ideas and stories.

Works for me. A-hole.

(j/k. I love you, man!)

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
11:13 am

To All:

By the way ……. here’s the list. If you want to be on it just add your name and send it back.

1) Midori

2) Chad Harris

3) Mrs. Godzilla

4) DB Gwinnettian

ByteMe

March 28th, 2009
11:13 am

C: You have a list??

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:15 am

If it were virtually anyone but our Corporal @ 11.09 I’d assume that was snark in reply to a good-natured ribbing. Alas…

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:15 am

An enemies list?

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:16 am

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:18 am

Boy, if I ever knew that Paul Freekin Newman was ever on Nixon’s enemies list, I must’ve forgotten. Amazing.

Also, who knew/remembered that John Conyers was on it? I knew that guy was pretty special, but I didn’t know how special.

AmVet

March 28th, 2009
11:19 am

DBG at 11:09.

I was thinking the same thing after one of the usual suspects here opened up his blogging day with some tripe about that.

To your point, many (most?) have made mistakes on their tax returns I would suppose. Honest boneheaded mistakes. After all, it’s not as if our tax code is akin to reading Jack and Jill.

And I would not be at all surprised if the hypocrites and faux righteous here, who bellyache the most about tax cheats, while simultaneously turning a blind eye to the white collar criminals in general, are likely the ones who are guilty of some cheating as well.

Seriously. Would you trust some of these people to come clean about anything?

Taxpayer

March 28th, 2009
11:19 am

It’s time to let go of the past, Corporal. A lot of banks even give away free solar-powered calculators for opening up a pass-book savings account. Take your cash out of your mattress and send your slide rule to the Smithsonian. Do it for the children.

Jen

March 28th, 2009
11:24 am

No turbotax for me…I’ve got rental property and we’ve done a lot of remodeling to them so I don’t want to chance things. I’ve got a CPA. But…I do have yet to bring him my spreadsheet and receipts and tax documents.

However, I don’t mind the rain. I’m running the ING Half Marathon tomorrow and the rain is giving me a nice chance to rest up.

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:25 am

AmVet @ 11.19, when you mentioned those who are likely the ones who are guilty of some cheating as well. — it reminds me of something I almost don’t want to mention because it may loosen a flood of The Stupid, but… remember that whole Clinton-Impeachment-over-lying-’bout-a-BJ thing?

I get that one could look at how he slithered around with his testimony, and how one might look at that as being out of compliance with the law. And I get that the blame for this stupidity rests solely with Big Dawg himself, and if I could’ve gone back in history and kicked him in the balls after Monica flirted with him the first time and said “you stupid sack of crap, you want to flush everything you’ve done down the tubes?” and all that.

But at the end of the day, to my mind, what he was accused of doing was roughly akin to thinking “I’m pretty sure I gave 50 bucks to that charity early last year but I don’t have a receipt and I don’t remember what it’s called/where it’s located so I’m just gonna wing it and say it went to Charity X. instead” Yeah, you shouldn’t do it, but who hasn’t?

Maybe not me, mind you, but at least half, three quarters of the finger-pointers back in the day? I’d say probably yeah.

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:27 am

Jen, do report back on how the half goes, will ya?

I may run that (or do the whole thing… I promised myself I would go 26.2, but haven’t trained properly yet) next year.

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
11:33 am

Taxpayer:

“I still have my K&E ($50 in 1965) in mint condition (including holster). I love showing it to students and asking them if they know what it is and what’s it called ………….. :o )”

Well, since you brought up “slide rules” this morning, I was just trying to have a nice, polite nostalgic dialogue about it but I see by your snide remarks @ 10:19 you are incapable of that.

So be it.

To ByteMe:

Yes, I have a list. A permanent non-dialogue list for those have earned it. However, you can voluntarily request to be on it if you like?

Taxpayer

March 28th, 2009
11:33 am

If this rain keeps up much longer, I’m gonna have to fire up the heavy-duty flood lamps. So what if the neighbors complain about the resulting brown out. I need some rays.

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:38 am

Not to sound too much like a damn Yankee transplant, but what’s the deal with metroLanta climate anyway? What ought to be the best part of the year–just when Daylight Savings time leaves you with sunlight until around 8pm and the temps lend themselves to dining outdoors and doing outdoor stuff in the evening–that’s when you either get these Biblical flood storms or pine-pollen particulates roughly the size of asteroids.

Why if I’d known… probably would’ve moved anyway, actually. I can take it. But I miss the snow, and the summers themselves, while not that harsh (I’m surprised it doesn’t get hotter than it does, typically) last about four weeks too long.

RW-(the original)

March 28th, 2009
11:38 am

DB,

Don’t forget that the cost of your TurboTax is deductible.

lwwmm7

March 28th, 2009
11:39 am

Everybody complanins about the weather but nobody ever does anything about it.

lwwmm7

March 28th, 2009
11:40 am

I didn’t make that up. Mark Twain stole it from some guy named Samuel Clements.

Taxpayer

March 28th, 2009
11:40 am

That was hardly intended as “snide”, Corporal. Just a little funnin’ is all. Unless, you really DO have your mattress stuffed with greenbacks and you really DO have a strong personal attachment to your slide rule. Do you.

Actually, I’ve been using the same old HP 15C now since the early ’80s. I guess I’m just stuck on reverse polish.

lwwmm7

March 28th, 2009
11:44 am

Tax, I used the 11, then the 15, now a 33. Lots of fun to have somebody say “let me see your calculator a minute” and watch them try to find the equal button. Reverse Polish Notation is the way to go allright. And no, that’s not a polack joke.

Sam

March 28th, 2009
11:45 am

Hey “Warmers”! (as in “global warming” fearmongerers), what ya think of the the 5 inches of rain here and tens of feet of snow in the Midwest??

heh, heh , heh….

RW-(the original)

March 28th, 2009
11:47 am

Geithner was found to be out of compliance and paid his back taxes for the two years covered by his audit. That could fall under the honest mistake category, but he knew full well he had done the same thing in prior years and didn’t come forward to pay those taxes until he was named Treasury Secretary. That’s what makes him a tax cheat.

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:47 am

Don’t forget that the cost of your TurboTax is deductible.

I’m pretty sure TurboTax reminds you of this during the Q&A process.

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:49 am

but he knew full well he had done the same thing in prior years and didn’t come forward to pay those taxes until he was named Treasury Secretary. That’s what makes him a tax cheat.

I’ll take your word for it (honestly, I haven’t cared enough to check), but I’ll just ask this–how many here would bother owning up to past bad practices and tried to square them away with Uncle Sam? How many would figure, “well, good thing they didn’t notice about those previous years?”

You folks don’t need to answer–just wondering out loud.

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:51 am

what ya think of the the 5 inches of rain here and tens of feet of snow

Why, it’s as shocking as Obama announcing yesterday that he was beefing up military and diplomatic operations in Afghanistan and Pakistan after campaigning that he would do so.

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:55 am

Jen’s post reminded me–@@, if you’re out there: Did you get into Peachtree?

I had to go the snailmail route and figure I might have a 50/50 chance, given that I had a qualifier. Guess we won’t know until after the 31st.

I Report/ You Whine

March 28th, 2009
11:56 am

lwwmm7 Everybody complanins about the weather but nobody ever does anything about it.

lwwmm7- The liberals have lied about it, if that counts for anything.

RW-(the original)

March 28th, 2009
11:57 am

DB @ 11:49,

If I had that happen and didn’t come clean I would consider myself a tax cheat, especially if I was supposedly the only man in America qualified to understand and fix every intricacy of our economy and at the same time run the IRS.

I find it pretty remarkable that you would deride anyone for calling Geithner a tax cheat and then admit that you’ve never cared enough to look into it to see if you were right or not.

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
11:58 am

In the words of Click and Clack, I’ve done it again–I’ve wasted another perfectly good hour…

Later, all.

DB, Gwinnettian

March 28th, 2009
12:01 pm

RW, I’ll just say it isn’t just Geithner, it’s been the constant swarming “Obama hires tax cheats! I wish I could be a librul and not pay taxes” crap I hear in these comments threads.

But as for Geithner, I just looked it up and I have to say–context? Please? This is 34 grand we’re talking about, total. You want to include this with other shortcomings the man may have, fine, but alone, a deal breaker? I don’t think so.

Later, all, fer real this time.

Davo

March 28th, 2009
12:04 pm

I cheat on my taxes, heavily. And I have absolutely no remorse for doing so. Why should I be forced to contribute to endless war, generational welfare and failed educational policies?

Taxpayers=suckers

RW-(the original)

March 28th, 2009
12:06 pm

DB,

It still makes him a tax cheat, but the real deal breaker should be that he was neck deep in creating this whole mess in the first place.

RW-(the original)

March 28th, 2009
12:09 pm

I can’t deal with these Refresh Gremlins any longer today.

Later!

Taxpayer

March 28th, 2009
12:09 pm

Why isn’t there any outrage from the right about those 52000 tax cheats with their UBS hidings.

Jen

March 28th, 2009
12:10 pm

DB, will do. I’ve actually already run the route. I did it last weekend. I had a bunch of brief stops and starts due to traffic lights but I timed myself excluding those stops and I finished it in 1:45. However, I don’t have any kind of race history so I couldn’t get myself out of being in the back of the starting line with the walkers. So, likely, my race pace will be slower as I will be dodging walkers and slower runners the first 2 miles. But that’s okay. This is my first half and I am thinking since I’ll never be a competetive runner I’ll take my training seriously but the race itself will be all about having fun.

You people who run 26.2 miles have something wrong in your brains….but then people tell me that because I run 13.1….*grin*

Midori

March 28th, 2009
12:15 pm

LOL!!!

I’M NUMBER ONE!!!

I’M NUMBER ONE!!!

Dave R

March 28th, 2009
12:24 pm

Maybe because those 52,000 alleged tax cheats aren’t applying for a position at the U.S. Treasury.

Maybe because until they go from “alleged” to”confirmed”, we have a little rule about innocent until proven guilty.

And maybe because it is you who is constantly harping on them, Taxpayer.

Dave R

March 28th, 2009
12:31 pm

G, maybe you could try to use an un-biased source for your ballyhooed “study” on the GOP tax plan, rather than a liberal tax organization that advocates a “progressive” tax.

The CTJ is a shill for the unions and the non-taxpayers.

When you post a responsible comment, it will be your first one.

Taxpayer

March 28th, 2009
12:33 pm

Oh, so some people think it is OK to cheat we the people and force us to make up for their cheating on taxes but it is some sort of sin to actually have filed tax returns and made mistakes. Also, 300 of the “confirmed” were turned over to the IRS by UBS. Finally, is Geithner “guilty” of something other than being human.

Taxpayer

March 28th, 2009
12:41 pm

Maybe, some right wingnut here would like to post some analysis of the GOP proposed budget that he is happy with rather than continuing with his incessant and overly predictable moaning over what others post. If he thinks himself capable, that is. HAHAHAHAHA.

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
12:44 pm

Davo:

“Taxes are what we pay for a civilized society” Justice Oliver W. Holmes

The problem is not the “taxes” but how they are determined/collected.

I was always amused by the “tax protester” types when I was in IRS-CID. They wouldn’t pay ANY local, state or federal taxes …. they felt they were all unconstitutional……. But ……. they liked driving on government built roads, to buy government inspected meat, etc., etc.

Dave R

March 28th, 2009
12:45 pm

No, Taxpayer, 300 of the “alleged” were turned over to the IRS. Get your facts straight.

And as soon as you find a right wingnut, maybe they’ll post something. But they, like everything else you post, are just a figment of your imagination.

jon

March 28th, 2009
12:48 pm

Corporal,

By the time I got in school things had tightened up. We weren’t supposed to bring knives to school and if we were caught with one, the teacher would take it away until the end of the day when we could get it back before going home. My how times have changed. Just drawing a picture of a knife in school now will bring out the SWAT team.

I believe you said you were USSS. My nephew is in training. He completed FLETC about a month ago and is in Maryland now. He really likes it.

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
12:51 pm

For anyone who cares ……… in 1974 I worked up a tax fraud case on three certified public accountants (owned their own firm with very nice offices in their own little buidling) who had not filed filed tax returns for three (repeat three) years.

Prosecution was declined.

That’s when I knew the system was entirely broken and I decided to seek a new career. Nothing has changed …. it has only gotten worse.

It has been estimated that if everyone paid the taxes they owed, everyone’s would be reduced by one-third. At least that is what we were told back then ……… today it’s probably off the charts.

I predict a very servere tax backlash down the road.

Bosch

March 28th, 2009
12:52 pm

Does anyone know how to update your version of Turbo Tax? I bought the wrong one and need to upgrade – there is supposed to be a way to do it for around $40 without having to go through the website and buy the whole thing.

Hillbilly Deluxe

March 28th, 2009
12:52 pm

I’ve carried a pocket knife everywhere I go since I was a small boy. When I was a kid all boys carried them and probably some of the girls.

On cancelled checks: If the bank charges me for checks aren’t they my property and isn’t the bank obligated to return them?

To DB:
There are quote sights on the net. Like anything on the internet though they have to be viewed with a skeptical eye. Here’s one and there are several others.

http://www.quotegarden.com/index.html

Does this blog limit you to one link per post? Anybody know?

@@

March 28th, 2009
12:56 pm

DB:

@@, if you’re out there: Did you get into Peachtree?

I didn’t try. In the past, I’ve run the Peachtree twice. The only challenge it presented for me was how to avoid what I called, a game of “crotch knockin’”. Too many elbows and…..

well, you know (literally) too many? I am plagued with a mild case of claustrophobia.

If I wanna challenge myself, I’ll increase the number of daily laps at the track (running path) incorporating more sprints than jogs. A full 2 1/2 miles of lunges. Now that’ll kill ‘ya but it does wonders for the gluteus maximus and hamstrings.

Nope, DB! I no longer run with the herd.

@@

March 28th, 2009
12:59 pm

Hillbilly:

Didn’t you link two last night? I enjoyed the Dan Seals videos last night. It sent me googling to find out how we lost such a talent.

Thanks for the video(S). (ISH)

Off to finish reading George Friedman’s “Next 100 Years”.

Corporal

March 28th, 2009
1:01 pm

jon:

Yes sir! 27 years. He is in Beltsville, Maryland then at the academy. He will have a great career and see, hear things, do things, go places he never dreamed of.

I also remember the sad case a few years back regarding a senior high school class somewhere. The 10 top graduating seniors were each given a half-page photo in the yearbook. They were to pick something regarding what they wanted their career to be for the photo. For example, one student wanted to be a civil engineer so he had his photo taken next to a piece of big construction equipment.

One of the young women had decided that after college she wanted to be an officer in the U.S. Army. So she had her photo taken with her standing next to an old artillery piece at the local Army Reserve unit. Her photo was not allowed in the yearbook as “it sent the wrong message.”

This is what most liberals/the politically correct have done to this nation.

Curious Observer

March 28th, 2009
1:07 pm

“Don’t forget that the cost of your TurboTax is deductible.”

Not necessarily–unless you have other miscellaneous expenses that exceed 2% of AGI. Most people don’t.

Taxpayer

March 28th, 2009
1:09 pm

The right wingnut — right on cue and in denial. The lawsuit followed by one day an agreement in which the Justice Department would defer criminal prosecution of UBS in exchange for the identities of up to 300 U.S. customers and payment by the bank of $780 million. They forked over the names of 300 “alleged” tax cheats and paid out $780 million to the US to avoid criminal prosecution. “Alleged” my a$$.

Bosch

March 28th, 2009
1:11 pm

Okay, I figured it out. I’m way too ADD sometimes. But I got it.

I’m having the same kind of day Jay is. Turbo taxing it. Yeeeeee yuck.

I Report/ You Whine

March 28th, 2009
1:14 pm

Bosch Does anyone know how to update your version of Turbo Tax? I bought the wrong one and need to upgrade – there is supposed to be a way to do it for around $40 without having to go through the website and buy the whole thing.

Bosch: The Turbotax website, although I’m not sure that an upgrade does in fact exist.

You can buy the Premiere Business and Home with fed and state efiles for 54 bucks, if I had time I could find the same one for about $35.

How much did you pay for the “wrong” one, if you don’t mind me asking?

(By the way, my refund was direct deposited 2nd week of Feb, why do all you libs procrastinate?)

I Report/ You Whine

March 28th, 2009
1:18 pm

Curious- Not true, tax preparation fees are not subject to the 2% floor.

Bosch

March 28th, 2009
1:21 pm

IR/YW

I paid $40 for it – I thought I was buying the Home and Business edition but I just picked up the wrong one!

I went on the Live Chat on the website and found what I was looking for. I’m usually way to ADD to be able to handle that kind of thing, but I figured it out.

Yeah, you are right – this “lib” is an extremely chronic procrastinator. I keep saying, “yeah, I’ll do that, yeah I’ll get to that, Yeah, any day now, I’ll do that” and now it’s the end of March!!!

Dave R

March 28th, 2009
1:25 pm

Taxpayer, you need to know the difference between a “corporation” and an “individual”. The “corporation” forwarded 300 names to the IRS so that the “corporation” wouldn’t face criminal charges.

Have any of those “individuals” been convicted of being tax cheats?

Hence, the word “alleged”.

Thus endeth your lesson for the day. You flunked. Again.