Dow up big — for a day anyway
Well, it may prove to be no more than a passing blip, but for the moment we’ll take it: The Dow closes up almost 380 points — almost 6 percent — for the day.
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I Report/ You Whine
March 10th, 2009
4:53 pm
Liberals are prone to wild mood swings, captives of their own misplaced emotions-
The real problem is Main Street, not Wall Street 3:27 pm March 9, 2009, by Jay
Dow up big — for a day anyway 4:50 pm March 10, 2009, by Jay
Whatever, watch as the capitalists move in tomorrow to feast on all this new money.
Party time!
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
4:59 pm
It sure didn’t take long for the Dow to become so noteworthy again.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
5:02 pm
Insider trading ………..
Jay
March 10th, 2009
5:05 pm
What’s your problem, gentlemen? Afraid of even the tiniest bit of good news?
With all the bad economic numbers hitting us daily, surely it’s OK to note a turnabout, even if it may prove fleeting in the end. Otherwise, you might be accused of wanting America to fail.
And surely you don’t want THAT!
Right?
I said, right?
TnGelding
March 10th, 2009
5:06 pm
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
4:59 pm
I was talking about it before the open this morning.
5.80% to be exact; S&P 6.37; NASDAQ 7.07; RUT 7.13.
It won’t mean a thing tho, unless you were in a position to take profits, if it gives it all back tomorrow. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen and that it was the beginning of a significant bounce.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
5:12 pm
Aye, aye sir !
Midori
March 10th, 2009
5:12 pm
Jay gives as good as he gets.
And he’s never, ever nasty about it.
Runs you idiots nuts, doesn’t it?
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
5:17 pm
Jay B.,
Just pointing out your abject hypocrisy.
Taxpayer
March 10th, 2009
5:18 pm
Didn’t you get the RNC memo. New Republican mantra, Jay. Must have bad news. Must think bad news. Must be bad news….Obama must fail.
I Report/ You Whine
March 10th, 2009
5:19 pm
Jay March 10th, 2009 5:05 pm With all the bad economic numbers hitting us daily, surely it’s OK to note a turnabout, even if it may prove fleeting in the end. Otherwise, you might be accused of wanting America to fail.
I failed to note that liberals also have quite some gall, considering the parade of gloom and doom that the Wall Mounted Restroom Fixture was all throughout the entire Bush presidency.
And surely you don’t want THAT!
Right?
I said, right?
Well, did you?
I Report/ You Whine
March 10th, 2009
5:22 pm
By the way, Citi had to show a profit, it was impossible to hide all that money forever, and they are through playing the dead bank horror show for the Bailout Queens in the US Congress and Treasury Department.
They got what they came for.
Bonuses!
Taxpayer
March 10th, 2009
5:25 pm
How dare you share this news of the DOW making these enormous gains on Obama’s watch without first linking it to a Republican tax cut. The nerve, Jay. That way, when it falls back down, the Republicans can point at Obama’s spending on junk such as unemployment benefits and claim that the DOW would not have fallen if the spending had been eliminated.
Brad Steal
March 10th, 2009
5:28 pm
I think it is safe to assume that Citi’s “profits” include bailout proceeds.
Oh yeah, and today’s huge run-up os obviously the successful policies of the current president (titter titter).
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
5:29 pm
111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
5:30 pm
Bookman,
keep dreaming, hack. The Dow was at 14,000 last year. It’s going to be at 5,000 really soon. There is only so much Obama Hussein can blame on Bush before he totally owns it. Hello Jimmy Carter 2.0.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
5:34 pm
Who’s Obama Kidding?
Brian S. Wesbury and Robert Stein,
A big spender’s ‘rosy’ delusions on GDP growth.
07, the federal budget deficit was $162 billion (1.2% of gross domestic product). For 2009, the budget deficit is projected to be 11 times larger: $1.752 trillion.
This World War II-like deficit (12.3% of GDP) is not all on President Obama. Much of it is due to policies put in place by President Bush, Hank Paulson and last year’s Congress. President Obama’s “stimulus” bill will certainly raise the deficit, but, to be fair, it is not the predominant digger of this year’s large fiscal hole.
Nonetheless, contrary to the spin of big-government types, these deficits are not just temporary. In fact, the Obama administration uses every trick in the book to convert an understandable and potentially temporary budget lapse this year into a structural lack of fiscal responsibility.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/09/budget-deficit-obama-opinions-columnists-spending.html
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
5:36 pm
Bookman could take a few lessons in economics from this guy.
Subsidizing Bad Decisions
By Thomas Sowell
Now that the federal government has decided to bail out homeowners in trouble, with mortgage loans up to $729,000, that raises some questions that ought to be asked, but are seldom being asked.
Since the average American never took out a mortgage loan as big as seven hundred grand– for the very good reason that he could not afford it– why should he be forced as a taxpayer to subsidize someone else who apparently couldn’t afford it either, but who got in over his head anyway?
Why should taxpayers who live in apartments, perhaps because they did not feel that they could afford to buy a house, be forced to subsidize other people who could not afford to buy a house, but who went ahead and bought one anyway?
We hear a lot of talk in some quarters about how any one of us could be in the same financial trouble that many homeowners are in if we lost our job or had some other misfortune. The pat phrase is that we are all just a few paydays away from being in the same predicament.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/03/subsidizing_bad_decisions.html
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
5:36 pm
Taxpayer:
I don’t think you should use a “smiley” face for something so serious. Please apologize.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
5:37 pm
Why The Founding Fathers Would Want Obama’s Plans to Fail
By Byron York
James Madison was not specifically contemplating Barack Obama, or Nancy Pelosi, when he wrote Federalist No. 63. But reading the document — one of the seminal arguments in favor of adopting the U.S. Constitution — it’s clear Madison knew their type. And he knew they would come along again and again in American history, if Americans were lucky enough to have a long history.
Obama and Pelosi, along with their most ardent supporters, are the types to see a crisis, like our current economic mess, as a “great opportunity,” as the president put it last Saturday. They are the types, after a long period out of power, to attempt to use that “great opportunity” to push through far-reaching changes in national policy that had only a tangential connection, if at all, to the crisis at hand. And they are the types the Founding Fathers wanted to stop.
http://www.dcexaminer.com/politics/Why-The-Founding-Fathers-Would-Want-Obamas-Plans-to-Fail-40992107.html
@@
March 10th, 2009
5:45 pm
This could be some more good news.
Iran’s second-most powerful political figure, Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, was re-elected March 10 as the chairman of the Assembly of Experts (AoE). This 86-member clerical body chooses Iran’s supreme leaders, over whom it has oversight powers, including the power to remove the apex leader.
Rafsanjani, pragmatic Iranian if there is such a thing.
I Report/ You Whine
March 10th, 2009
5:45 pm
Representatives for Judicial Watch, which obtained e-mails and other documents from a Freedom of Information request, said the correspondence shows Pelosi has abused the system in place to accommodate congressional leaders and treated the Air Force as her “personal airline.”
Judicial Watch said that Pelosi was notorious for making special demands for high-end aircraft, lodging last-minute cancellations and racking up additional expenses for the military.
Isn’t this one of the goons that scolded GM execs for flying to their Congressional dead car company horror show?
Do as I say not as I do?
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
5:50 pm
Corporal,
My sympathies about your dad. I too am going through the “stage of life” drama with elderly relatives (three of ‘em). It’s never a dull moment, but it’s good that we are able to care for them right now. Again, sorry for your loss, and the smiley guy is made by:
typing a colon, followed by a dash, then a closed parentheses (shift 0) – I would just type it, but it would turn up as a smiley face!
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
5:52 pm
Corporal,
I think Taxpayer has a cheat sheet he can link to for the different emoticons – this new format – you have to use HTML code (or HTML magic as Mrs. G. says) – she has the cheat sheet for that and RW has a link to his blog that will help.
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
5:52 pm
Andy,
Have you watched anymore Battlestar?
Taxpayer
March 10th, 2009
5:54 pm
If the Mayans had been able to solve that simple ratio of the Circumference of a circle to its diameter, they might not have been such squares. It was as easy as pi. As long as you don’t do something stupid with it such as pass a law stating that the ratio equals 3. If you do something like that, well, you can literally walk in “circles” all day and never make ends meet. Then again, once you have seen the sin, you pretty much know all there is to know about circles anyway. The stock market is like circular motion mapped out over time with a bunch of different diameters of circles, being traversed at different speeds overlayed on each other. It’s confusing to look at but this dude named Fourier can help sort out all the pieces though. Pi day is coming. Mark you calendars. 3.14. Festivities begin promptly at 1:59. Be there or be square.
Taxpayer
March 10th, 2009
5:57 pm
“The Corporal”,
That one was “lol” — not a mere smiley. A mere smile simply would not do. No. It simply would not. You know what I mean.
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
5:59 pm
Great news /sarc
Apparently Porkulous I has already been declared a failure and it’s full speed ahead with Porkulous II.
The report by a group of economists including Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody’s Economy.com, says the recently enacted $787 billion stimulus package will fall far short of the Obama administration’s goal of saving or creating 3.5-million jobs.
Forget 4 years, can we even survive this guy’s first 100 days?
800 billion here and 800 billion there, pretty soon we’re talking real money.
I Report/ You Whine
March 10th, 2009
6:01 pm
Bosch: Yes, I’m nearing the end of season three.
Dave R
March 10th, 2009
6:02 pm
Interesting that the market goes up on good economic news from a private corporation, and down when President Hope & Change tries to manipulate it . . .
And I DO want him to fail. Only complete and abject failure of Socialist policies will defeat this horrendous movement.
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
6:08 pm
Andy,
You like? Season three was a little less intense, but it gets better in season four. There are only two more shows left, so make sure you skip mine and Paul’s conversations (you probably skip mine anyway
We are putting up warning alerts now.
Joe Matarotz
March 10th, 2009
6:14 pm
Jay,
One day does not a recovery make. Wall Street, who supported Obama like the Second Coming, has already sniffed him out and the Street is not impressed.
In the meantime, Obama shares with the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce that along with fixing everything else, he is going to fix our education system. This includes nationalizing standards (hmmm, there’s that word again) and lengthening the school day and the school year. I wonder how parents and teachers will receive that.
The Dow is up!
The Dow is up!
Praise God and Obama, the Dow is up!
Brad Steal
March 10th, 2009
6:16 pm
Bookman,
Is Commie aka Whiner just a ruse that is actually you egging comments to your column? Commie / Whiner comments are too insipid to be taken as anything other than a joke.
I Report/ You Whine
March 10th, 2009
6:18 pm
Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) said Tuesday that President Obama’s budget plan doesn’t have enough support from lawmakers right now to win approval.
Conrad said that he has spoken to enough colleagues with reservations about several different provisions in the budget that he thinks Congress won’t pass it, at least in its present form.
bwa
A big fat juicy defeat hung around the neck of the OneTermer.
Disarray rules the government.
Which is good.
~~~~~
Bosch- Excellent TV, it is.
I liked it when the cylons stuck that British looking cylon in cold storage, where she belongs.
Bummer when they didn’t send the infected cylons into the resurrection ship. That would have been the bomb. But also the end of the series, so I understood.
Mrs. Godzilla
March 10th, 2009
6:20 pm
I really wanted to mention the Dow earlier but didn’t want to deal with any catcalls from any peanut gallery.
Anyway here goes, I think it’s a blip. Citi doesn’t pass the smell test for me. I still have my ten bucks on 5600. To the best of my knowledge none of us are experienced economists and whatever any of us post is opinion anyway.
I think my economists can take your economists.
Raised in a large family, I understood trickle down economics. I was at the bottom of the totem pole by age and gender. Government, in the form of Mom and Dad, intervened when required. Even the small ones got an Ann Paige soft chocolate sugar cookie. Even the female ones were given educational opportunities. For people of honor, the honor system works.
Does anybody think Bernie Madoff is a man of honor? It appears there were a herd of Madoff’s and the guys running the show either got in on the deal, watched what was going on and said nothing or were clueless. Those people need to go.
There is nervous chatter about Obama fundamentally changing America in an attempt to scare the weak.
The strong voted for that very change.
We like our President Obama.
Yes we do.
If we can post our opinions and be
NRB
March 10th, 2009
6:22 pm
Ohhhhhh look. Jay is all of a sudden interested in the stock market. Let’s see how low it will get when the useless communist dicator that got “elected” into office (via voter fraud) passes a second “stimulus” bill.
Possible inclusions in “Stimulus 2: Electric Boogalaoo” will probably include $200 Billion to give people in Alaska freezers, $300 Billion to import more sand into Nevada, and $1 Trillion to set up a wi-fi network on Mars.
Mrs. Godzilla
March 10th, 2009
6:23 pm
I need a Swedish secretary named Nels or Sven or Lars…..so i don’t mess up the end of a post. Thanks for y’alls patience.
getalife
March 10th, 2009
6:26 pm
It is working .
Guaranteed by your money, it can’t lose unless they surrender like the gop.
Lets not ever elect them again so they can’t destroy the econony again.
Who wants another depression?
It’s a no brainer to never vote gop.
AmVet
March 10th, 2009
6:27 pm
“But I think that’s part of learning how to be a national leader. Steele had never before been in the spotlight until a month ago. He’s going to have to learn you have to pick your words very carefully…” ~ Newt Gingrich on the supposed RNC Chair “disagreeing” with the lumbering lardass, the Manteats in Black, the REAL RNC Chair – HeadRush.
After eight horrific years of Dumbo and Dumbo-er, Nutty Newt, essentially silent on their endless debacles and once infamous as the most repulsive politician in all of Washington, is now after a mere seven weeks, emboldened enough to offer advice on statesmanship!
This imploding GOP never ceases to amaze! Nor to and provide endless comedic entertainment.
Those who disapprove of the credibility -free Republican Party is at 76%.
And outside of the Moron Belt it MUST be pushing 90%.
Even with 21 months to go, I’m just gonna go ahead and predict it – Electoral Bloodbath, Part Trois. Coming November 2012…
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
6:32 pm
Andy,
That was D’Anna – she was the reporter from the first season. They boxed her up because she saw the Final Five – no big sin. That actress was Xena Warrior Princess.
Yeah, Helo, the guy who refused to send the infected Cylons over to the ship to wipe out the rest – he’s my favorite character – him and Starbuck. He’s so moral. He’s a big giant liberal – married to a Cylon and all.
I knew you’d like the show though, lots of moral and religious stuff.
Frederick Douglass
March 10th, 2009
6:32 pm
Today we switch back to Reagan’s admonition, “the president doesn’t have
anything to do with the stock market”, the next time it fluctuates downward, oh it’s Obama’s fault. Some of these people are like turkeys,
everytime they sneeze, they wake up in a different world.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
6:32 pm
Bosch:
Thank you for your kind words.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
6:37 pm
To Mrs. G.:
I know a Bjorn !
GodHatesTrash, Superstar
March 10th, 2009
6:39 pm
AmVet – Manteats in Black. Still laughing…
Salute!
I Report/ You Whine
March 10th, 2009
6:39 pm
I just glanced at PMSNBC and it appears their was another talking points memo sent out to all the Oblahma hacks, one day after the talking points memo about the “stock market means nothing, nothing I say!,” today all the toadies are joyously leaping about in their fake TV world because of the……………………stock market.
Did you get another biscuit, Bookman?
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
6:41 pm
Brad Steal aka high school dropout,
I always love how you seem to single me out. You claim my comments to be insipid yet you’ve never actually posted anything other than cut downs. It must truly suck to be you.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
6:42 pm
AmVet and GodHatesTrash:
I believe the correct spelling is “man teats”. Just trying to be accurate
)
Chad Harris
March 10th, 2009
6:42 pm
Not only did the Minnesota Supreme Court last week hand down a decision that deep-sixes the GOP/Coleman strategy of looking to the Federal courts for relief on appeal, but today Team Coleman’s hopes of getting the ballot universe expanded with more votes for Coleman just got a swift kick in the ass, as the ballots he was counting from pile 3a evaporated upon examination.
And in Deliverence Jaw Jaw the laugingstock of the rest of the world, they be tryin’ to criminalize working with stem cells or correcting infertility.
All them 450,000 discarded embryos gonna be implanted between the legs of ignorant Rethug women who is gonna birth ‘em all. Who cares if jawjaw loses hundreds of research grants and infertility clinics close–hey but we is right to life. That ain’t good is it?
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
6:45 pm
Ooops !
HEADLINE: Conrad: Obama budget lacks votes
By Walter Alarkon
Posted: 03/10/09 04:45 PM [ET]
“Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) said Tuesday that President Obama’s budget plan doesn’t have enough support from lawmakers right now to win approval.”
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/conrad-obama-budget-lacks-votes-2009-03-10.html
Pray tell, do you mean there are some Democrats who have not been brainwashed and are not getting in line ???
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
6:48 pm
Ooops again !
HEADLINE: The United States Capitol Police arrested a driver near the Capitol on Tuesday 3/10/09 around 4 p.m.
“A search of the vehicle found: Two long guns, three handguns and a sword, according to Sgt. Kimberly Schneider, the spokeswoman for the USCP. Charges against the driver are pending.”
Wait a minute! I thought the Democrats had passed laws that this was illegal?
Midori
March 10th, 2009
6:52 pm
Corporal,
the Dems can’t pass enough laws you keep you lunatics who love to go “boom boom” in check.
Midori
March 10th, 2009
6:54 pm
more “oops”
HEADLINE: Coleman suffers additional defeat; 1400 ballots without registration will not be considered
http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/40965532.html?elr=KArks8c7PaP3E77K_3c:%20%3Cimg%20src=
Mrs. Godzilla
March 10th, 2009
6:57 pm
Yes, James, not all Democrats are brainwashed and it’s refreshing! We do not have the votes for cloture.
Don’t get the second one….please explain.
Dave R
March 10th, 2009
6:58 pm
Nice to see AmVet typing his own comments on this thread. I knew it when they made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Even if he did try to use noted economist Ralph Nader to dismiss the effects of the CRA . . .
And I see Chad is back malpracticing on things political after a hard days work of the same . . .
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
6:58 pm
Midori:
Well, you made my point. Thanks. Gun laws like those in D.C. only endanger law abiding citizens ….. as they certainly don’t stop the criminals or the nut cases.
P.S. The gun goes “boom”. We just pull the trigger.
Midori
March 10th, 2009
7:00 pm
Corporal: and the clock goes “tick, tock”
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
7:00 pm
Mrs. G.:
See my 6:58 …..
“I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy”.
AmVet
March 10th, 2009
7:00 pm
I hear the train a comin’…
It’s rollin’ round the bend,
But I can’t see a damn thing,
Cuz of Rush’s big rear end.
I’m stuck in Republiconned Prison,
And time keeps draggin’ on,
But that train keeps a-rollin’,
On down to Boca Raton.
(OK. Palm Beach doesn’t rhyme.)
Taxpayer
March 10th, 2009
7:03 pm
AmVet,
I hear that another of his favorite tunes is “A boy named Rush.”
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
7:06 pm
Hummmmm ………….. I’ll reserve judgement until I know more but this doesn’t sound good.
Obama Seeks to Delay Tanker, Cancel Bomber
By Josh Rogin, CQ Staff
“The White House has given the Pentagon guidance to delay procurement of aerial refueling tankers by five years and cancel plans for a new long-range bomber, according to three sources close to the discussions.”
@@
March 10th, 2009
7:06 pm
OR, black man in boobs
A man walks down the beach
He says why am I soft in the middle now
Why am I soft in the middle
The rest of my life is so hard
I need a photo-opportunity
I want a shot at redemption
Don’t want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard
Eewwww
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
7:08 pm
Ooops !
And another one bites the dust ……… has it ever been this bad?
March 10, 2009
Freeman withdraws nomination as intel chief
Posted: 06:17 PM ET
(CNN) — Charles Freeman, the Obama administration’s choice for National Intelligence Council chief, has withdrawn following controversy over his nomination.
Midori
March 10th, 2009
7:14 pm
AmVet:
LOLOLOL!!!!!
Midori
March 10th, 2009
7:15 pm
Would you believe it Corporal?
http://www.google.com/search?q=george+w.+bush+nominees+withdraw&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
7:35 pm
More great news /sarc
The Senate just spent another $410,000,000,000.00 we don’t have. We needed something to get in between Porkulous I and Porkulous II.
Brad Steal
March 10th, 2009
7:38 pm
Commie / Whine,
You’re too easy. And predictably outraged, like a good wingnut. You deserve being singled out. Your comments are inane – or just regurgitated AM radio drivel. They are usually both.
Your pal,
B. Steal
DB, Gwinnettian
March 10th, 2009
7:41 pm
Corporal, I just read about your father’s passing in the older thread.
While I recognize that he was at a time and place where he was ready to exit this world, I hope you’ll accept my sincere condolences.
AmVet
March 10th, 2009
7:43 pm
Awwww, Davey,
There’s no need to be upset for days and days on end every time you get smacked down here, my friend.
Trust me, with you and your “quaint” ideas, it’s gonna keep happening regularly.
Better grow some thicker skin, Mr, Sunspots…
Sam
March 10th, 2009
7:45 pm
Of course we don’t want America to fail. We libertarians only want “Barry’s not so excellent Marxist adventure” to fail.
Was talking to a friend who own his own buisness. Made 260K last year and expects to do the same this year. After taxes are raised in 2010, he plans on laying off 1 of his 8 employees and actually decrease productivity slightly on his overall buisness. Didn’t make sense to work more and take home less. It’s a shame b/c he provides full benefits and competitive salaries. That’s the real life scenario that will play out across the country among small buisness owners who provide so many jobs. See, the rich will always be rich b/c they’re smart, adaptive, and resourceful. The end result is more lost middle class jobs in the process of making the rich “pay their fair share”.
DB, Gwinnettian
March 10th, 2009
7:46 pm
“Was talking to a friend who own his own buisness…Didn’t make sense to work more and take home less.”
Was that before or after you had dinner with your wife…
Morgan Fairchild! yeah, that’s the ticket!
DB, Gwinnettian
March 10th, 2009
7:49 pm
Missed this about RNC chairman Steele in yesterday’s 538 dot com. Nate’s usually right about this stuff, and we’ve been chatting about this topic a lot of late, so…:
According to multiple former high-level RNC staffers familiar with the dynamics involved, Steele is unlikely to survive in the post if favored Republican Jim Tedisco loses his open-seat race to Democrat Scott Murphy. The special election, scheduled for March 31, is to fill a vacancy left when Kirsten Gillibrand took Hillary Clinton’s Senate seat.
If Tedisco loses, the ex-staffers said, “Steele is done.”
Completely, definitively?
“Absolutely.”
Mrs. Godzilla
March 10th, 2009
7:49 pm
Corporal,
I am sorry to hear of your loss.
Sam
March 10th, 2009
7:52 pm
Oh and before you slam the buisness owner and claim he makes his money of the backs of his workers, he puts in 12-14 hr days, is the first one in and last one out. His workers work five 8 hr shifts or four 10 hr shifts. Wife does the accounting.
Criminals like Madoff et al need to be punished and punished harshly, but instead, Obama will end up hurting my friends buisness and jobs will be lost. What a putz…..
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
7:54 pm
To Mrs. G. and DBGwinnetian:
Thank you both for your kind words. He was a wonderful minister of the Gospel …. seven churches over almost 60 years. He will be missed.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
7:55 pm
Midori:
I know Bush had problems with appointees. They all do. But it seems to me (and maybe someone can help clarify this) that Obama’s “cancellations” are way off the charts?
What think ye out there?
DB, Gwinnettian
March 10th, 2009
7:57 pm
Stuff awaits. Later, all. Be excellent to one another.
Sam
March 10th, 2009
7:57 pm
Sorry DB, not everyone can sit around and watch soap operas while collecting government checks like you while adding absolutely nothing to society….Hey, how does that extra $15/week feel from Prez Barry. More Super Biggie Value meals? another PPV porn flick? or maybe some more Lotto tix. Are you happy now?
Or are you expecting more cigarettes and folding cash from the DNC for the next election…..
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
8:16 pm
Sam,
If DB happens to a smoker his cigarette tax goes up nearly a dollar a pack the same day his $13.00 going on $8.00 windfall starts pouring in. Then if he happens to use gas or electricity it’s Katie bar the door when cap and trade starts sucking down the rest of his check.
I’m not sure I buy the argument about small business laying off people by the bucketload after the tax hikes on “the rich” go into effect though. I’ve operated several small businesses over the years, sometimes several at the same time, and employee costs go to the cost side of the ledger. Your friend could lay off 1 person and actually find his net profit going up rather than down.
TnGelding
March 10th, 2009
8:18 pm
Brad Steal
March 10th, 2009
5:28 pm
There was other good news that contributed to the rally besides Citi. I don’t think you’ll read here where anyone is attributing it to Obama. We just get tired of him being blamed everytime the markets burp. A bear market will end when it ends, but today would be a good day for it to have.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
5:30 pm
The DJIA hasn’t been at 14,000 since 2007. If it does drop to 5,000 will you honor me by throwing a shovel of dirt on my grave?
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EDJI&t=2y
Midori
March 10th, 2009
8:18 pm
my bad, Corporal — you asked “And another one bites the dust ……… has it ever been this bad?”
From your “musings”, I got the impression that you had forgotten past problems with past administrations getting started.
Or was/am I mistaken?
How’s that birth certificate “problem” working out for you?
Sam
March 10th, 2009
8:31 pm
RW, you’re absolutely right. Some buisness owners do find their profits go up if they reduce the “fat”. However, today’s economic climate for the small buisness owner usually does not give the luxury of having a cushion. That is, most good buisnesses have already maxed out their efficiency. I think it will have more of an impact than you think. Think of all the professionals and buisness owners in the $200-250K range. The small-mid sized law firms, the small doctor practices. Most of them are already maxed out efficiency-wise. Why produce more, ergo–produce more potential jobs, if Barry gonna let you keep less?
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
8:40 pm
Sam,
I didn’t mean to say it wouldn’t be a problem just that the problem is overstated. Trust me, I think Obama’s policies will be a collective disaster and that’s just one piece.
The thing is that human nature being what it is some of us are driven and some aren’t. From your description your friend is one of those that is just going to end up busting his own butt more because the drive for success and customer satisfaction will get in the way of his thinking he’ll accept just earning less.
G
March 10th, 2009
8:56 pm
Hmmm, each day the Dow is down I read on here the reason is because it hates President Obama.
I guess it’s not hating him today, huh?
Now, now, now, don’t you people try to give another reason. You’re looking stupid enough already.
The Dow LOVES President Obama today! It really, really loves him!
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
9:03 pm
Brad Steal aka high school dropout,
no, you could never enrage me because I see through your complete stupidity. Besides, I feel sorry for you.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
9:06 pm
TnGelding,.
you’re correct it was 2007. Sorry about that. But, sadly the DOW will eventually drop to and below 5000 because we have an inexperienced president who doesn’t know dick about economics.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
9:08 pm
BREAKING NEWS. OBAMAS BIGGEST SUPPORTER IS TURNING ON HIM.
A Turning Tide?
Obama still has the approval of the people, but the establishment is beginning to mumble that the president may not have what it takes.
Howard Fineman
Newsweek Web Exclusive
Mar 10, 2009 | Updated: 8:37 a.m. ET Mar 10, 2009
Surfer that he is, President Obama should know a riptide when he’s in one. The center usually is the safest, most productive place in politics, but perhaps not now, not in a once-in-a-century economic crisis.
Swimming in the middle, he’s denounced as a socialist by conservatives, criticized as a polite accommodationist by government-is-the-answer liberals, and increasingly, dismissed as being in over his head by technocrats.
Luckily for Obama, the public still likes and trusts him, at least judging by the latest polls, including NEWSWEEK’s. But, in ways both large and small, what’s left of the American establishment is taking his measure and, with surprising swiftness, they are finding him lacking.
They have some reasons to be concerned. I trace them to a central trait of the president’s character: he’s not really an in-your-face guy. By recent standards—and that includes Bill Clinton as well as George Bush—Obama for the most part is seeking to govern from the left, looking to solidify and rely on his own party more than woo Republicans. And yet he is by temperament judicious, even judicial. He’d have made a fine judge. But we don’t need a judge. We need a blunt-spoken coach.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/188565/output/print
Red
March 10th, 2009
9:09 pm
Wall St. is desperate for good news. We’ll probably see profits return to transportation industries next quarter or the next due to the drop in fuel prices (except for the fools who hedged too deeply at $147)- not big profits, but reasonable.
Congress needs to spend like there’s no tomorrow as quickly as possible(but smartly) and we will most likely pull up out of the nose dive; possibly quite dramatically.
I’m taking my extra $13 a week and going to the wine bar in Decatur when it gets added back to my wage packet. It will help ease the pain of watching GM disappear.
Sam
March 10th, 2009
9:11 pm
RW, you and I probably disagree on that. At some point, my friend will probably weigh the quality of life (with family, that is) vs busting his butt more just to feed Barry’s insatiable hunger for more taxes. I think the ripple effect will be enormous. I mean why would you want to work more so that people like DB can get more checks to pi$$ away….
An example: doctors are choosing to see less patients nowadays b/c the declining revenues from seeing more volume of patients are not worth it. What happens? Customer service goes down, waits are longer, fewer see Medicare/Medicaid.
getalife
March 10th, 2009
9:16 pm
Limbaugh On “Economic War”: “If Obama Is Our General, This War Is Lost”
Another coward cut and run.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
9:17 pm
To Midori:
1) I still think Obama has had the most problems since at least Carter. The Clinton Administration had a lot of problems also especially in the mid-level appointments that never made the news. “Believe me” a lot of staffers delayed as long as they could in filling out the “security clearance” application. Eventually they all had to ……. and it wasn’t pretty ………. many had to seek new employment when they couldn’t get a clearance.
2) Now, concerning your second question, I ignored it the other night because if you remember ….. mean old “Jay” has forbidden me from bringing it up. But since you did ……. I will speak “generically”.
a) There is a certain document. It is accurate and genuine on its face …. not forged, counterfeit or altered per that officials from that state and I believe that to be true.
b) However, it is my understanding that under that state’s law (at the time) a U.S. citizen/resident of that state could have a child in a foreign country, return to that state, file for that kind of certificate and guess what? It was issued by the state …. just as if the child had been physically born there. Numerous people apparently did that …. so the document is valid on “its face”. No one is arguing that.
c) For most people there is no question about citizenship because they would have been born either in that state or to two parents who were both U.S. citizens. Case closed.
d) In this case, one of the parents was NOT a U.S. citizen (that is not in dispute) and that is where the “possible” (I have always said possible) problem arises. Again, it is my understanding that under certain provisions of the law, if (and I repeat if) that person was born to a U.S. citizen mother and a non-citizen father AND was born in another country there “could” be a problem.
e) I have read that this person we are talking about (long before he became prominent) had an Aunt who stated she was there (in that foreign country) when he was born.
f) To my knowledge, no hospital records in that State have ever been produced which show the birth, nor has a doctor, nurse or anyone else ever come forward. Based on his prominence, to me that seems a little unusual.
g) It is my opinion that the judge’s ruling you referred to the focused only on the document (which is valid on its face) instead of taking into account the items mentioned above.
Bottom line ………. I do NOT know for sure the answer as to the birth location. All I have ever said is that it needs further clarification which would be very easy to if the right person (you know who) would just state the facts.
It is extemely probable, even under the complex regulations involved, that the person we are talking about is in fact a U.S. citizen “even” if he were born in another country of just one U.S. citizen parent. So what’s the big deal?
dave
March 10th, 2009
9:18 pm
Jay, if you think this is a trend, you dumber than “our” President… but then again, for all his education, that’s pretty hard to do.
Midori
March 10th, 2009
9:27 pm
funny how conservatives like to depict Obama as “dumb” after fellating a retarded, drunken, illiterate erstwhile “cowboy” for the past 8 years.
Isn’t it funny how that works?
Getalife: I saw that thing on Rush a few minutes ago on Countdown.
Pitiful.
Just pitiful.
Rush needs a tummy tuck, a boob job AND some of that fat sucked out of his morbidly obese head.
As he is so good at doctor shopping, I’m quite sure he can get it all done on a budget.
Midori
March 10th, 2009
9:28 pm
Legal Expert: Minnesota Court Likely To Rule By End of Month — For Franken
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/03/legal-expert-minnesota-court-likely-to-rule-by-end-of-month—-for-franken.php
can’t come soon after.
another lying wingnut bites the dust.
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
9:30 pm
Sam,
Doctors are probably a whole different ballgame. They’re suddenly wondering if all their schooling and training has just prepared them to be forced into government employ. We could ask Chadly, but I don’t think that applies to make believe blog docs.
And for the record I don’t think DB is a government check taking layabout, just severely misguided.
deegee
March 10th, 2009
9:32 pm
Good Lord, Sam. Would you please stop regurgitating Neal Boortz. If we wanted his baloney we would be reading Nealz Nuze. I used to listen to him in the ’90s. By this time his good friend would be working 24X7, paying more in taxes than he’s grossing and would have laid off all of his employees. What a tool.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
9:35 pm
Midori:
Sorry, I left this out from the state statue ………..
“[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.”
I Report/ You Whine
March 10th, 2009
9:35 pm
Limbaugh says jump, the libs say how high, hahahahahahahaha, morons.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
9:42 pm
Midori:
Have you read “Dreams from my Father” ? I am half-way through.
Sam
March 10th, 2009
9:48 pm
Deegee, I can’t stand Boortz. Just a blowhard and not very funny. Mark Levin…..now there’s some biting, sarcastic, Jewish wit….now he’s worth listening to….even if I don’t agree with him on everything
dave
March 10th, 2009
9:53 pm
midor – so nice to hear someone so “inclusive” and truly peace loving as you on this website…
Dave R
March 10th, 2009
9:54 pm
Midori, if you want to brag about a loser state which voted in a former professional wrestler (twice, I believe) as governor, and now appears to be electing a former comedian (who was never really funny to begin with) as a U.S. Senator, then fine.
You libs certainly have been shown to have lower standards for elected officials in the long run. (And remember, you can’t pull the “Bush was a moron” thing on me – I never liked the guy and never voted for him.) And you certainly like your elected officials inexperienced.