China sending a message to Obama?
Five Chinese ships harassed a U.S. Navy surveillance ship over the weekend off the southern Chinese island of Hainan, where the Chinese have a major submarine base. The USS Impeccable was towing sophisticated sonar monitors, trying to pick up the signature of the Chinese subs, and the Chinese ships were apparently trying to snag some of those devices.
According to the Christian Science Monitor, “Sunday’s incident came after a week of what the Pentagon statement called ‘increasingly aggressive conduct by Chinese vessels’ aimed at the Impeccable and a sister ship, including low-altitude flybys by Chinese maritime surveillance planes.”
There seems to be a pattern here. On April 1, 2001, just a few months into the Bush administration, Chinese jets harassed an American EP-1 spy plane flying near Hainan Island. One jet collided with the U.S. plane; the Chinese pilot was killed and the badly damaged EP-1 was forced to land at Hainan Island. The 24 American crew members were held there by the Chinese for 11 days, and the plane wasn’t returned for months.
With this incident just a couple of months into the Obama administration, the Chinese again seem to sending a message.
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G
March 10th, 2009
11:45 am
I’m sure President Obama will respond in the best way for our country.
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
11:47 am
With this incident just a couple of months into the Obama administration, the Chinese again seem to sending a message
DB,
Are you going to use your petty “Is our children learning” on that sentence from Jay B?
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In other news I’m sure there’s a poll that shows 83% of the respondents say Obama is doing a bang up job handling Impeccablegate and we’ll have that poll thrown in our faces by 3:00.
Copyleft
March 10th, 2009
11:47 am
Here’s hoping he ignores the discredited neoconservative advisors that are probably still floating around Washington somewhere….
BDAtlanta
March 10th, 2009
11:49 am
Message:
“Buy more of our plastic junk for your McMansions”
BDAtlanta
March 10th, 2009
11:52 am
Hey, I have an idea: Let’s start another war AND lower taxes at the same time!
DB, Gwinnettian
March 10th, 2009
11:54 am
RW, sure.
The moment he issues forth something as imbecilic as, oh, say… The bigger issue is what has Obama done since he took over, along with Queen Pelosi. He has issued the most anti-business agenda in our history in the midst of what was already a global crisis.
ByteMe
March 10th, 2009
11:59 am
You remember Biden’s prescient — but politically stupid — remark about Obama being “tested” in the first few months. China just handed out their test. Multiple choice, 1 question.
Russia’s test was a bit more varied than this, concerning anti-missle batteries in Eastern Europe, getting us kicked out of Kyrgyzstan, and cutting off Europe’s supply of natural gas.
All in a day’s work at a job no sane person could possibly want.
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
12:00 pm
DB,
That was pure subterfuge on your part. You know full well you took a cheap shot at someone downstairs simply for poor wording of a sentence just like the one Jay gave us here.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
12:02 pm
Yes, China has sent a message and so has North Korea, and Iran, and Iraq and there will be others to follow …………..
I’m holding my breath that the “Commander in Chief” will “have the right stuff”.
’sic vis pacum, para bellum’
Joe Matarotz
March 10th, 2009
12:07 pm
Jay, what do the polls say? Let me guess. 64% say they’re Bush’s Chinese and Obama inherited them. 8% say they’re Obama’s Chinese. 24% think the Chinese are acting under their own volition. And 4% blame Rush, even though he doesn’t know where China is.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
12:09 pm
P.S.
I meant “your” Commander in Chief.
getalife
March 10th, 2009
12:14 pm
Citi turns profit in Jan. and Feb.
Crisis over.
The ones that wanted him to fail lose.
The Chinese mooned them.
Just having a little fun.
Earl
March 10th, 2009
12:14 pm
I don’t trust a poll taken on MARTA bus.
Taxpayer
March 10th, 2009
12:20 pm
The President has the right stuff all right. He’s gonna give “The Corporal” a cowboy hat and a free ride on an H-bomb from 50,000 ft. YEE HAWwwwwwwwwww!
I Report/ You Whine
March 10th, 2009
12:23 pm
The Chinese moving ahead with building an aircraft carrier is the real message.
They know that OneTerm is a chump and won’t come to Taiwan’s rescue.
Mrs. Godzilla
March 10th, 2009
12:28 pm
All it takes is a little saber rattlin’ to scare some folks.
Chill. Obama’s got this.
ByteMe
March 10th, 2009
12:33 pm
getalife: “crisis” is soooo not over. Citi turned an “operating profit” which in business terms means that if you ignore all the assets that are further being devalued, they’re just fine.
Except the rules are that you can’t ignore devalued assets for long without an infusion of capital. Citi and BoA are zombies at this point; no one has told them they are dead and the government has shoved a 2-by-4 up their collective arses to keep them upright.
On the other hand, up markets like today are an excellent day to buy puts on C and BAC.
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
12:33 pm
Let’s just hope that message isn’t: Loan time is up! Give us back our money pronto……or………… [insert catastrophe of your choice here].
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
12:35 pm
Corporal,
Your Commander in Chief?
When did you change your citizenship? I thought you were an American. Oh well, too bad for you.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
12:38 pm
Bosch,
yes, that is exactly what is going on. China owns America thanks to Bush and Clinton, democrats and republicans. It’s time to pay up.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
12:38 pm
Mrs. Godzilla,
Obama’s got this? What’s he got, Mrs. Godzilla?
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
12:40 pm
Bosch,
I’m not sure what the Corporal meant, but Obama is the President of all the citizens of the US, not the Commander in Chief. That’s just of the armed forces.
Later!
williebkind
March 10th, 2009
12:40 pm
Will King Obama sign the 400plus billion package that Prime Mistress Pelosi wrote or will the King veto it? I know the lock-in-step liberal senators and a few liberals labeling themselves as republicans will vote for it. Well, Obama lied, Obama lied!
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
12:41 pm
Commie,
For once I agree with you – that pretty much sucks huh? Not that I agree with you, but let’s just hope China isn’t coming to collect. That would be very, very bad.
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
12:43 pm
Commie,
Okay that 12:41 didn’t come out right. I don’t think it sucks that we agree with one another. I think it sucks that there is the possibility that China has come to collect.
DB, Gwinnettian
March 10th, 2009
12:49 pm
“You know full well you took a cheap shot at someone downstairs ”
…and so you’re dragging this teeny-tiny shot from a dead thread into this thread, why?
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
12:50 pm
I’m about to go out for a bit, but I’d like to post a line from a song that makes me laugh – Teen Angst by Cracker:
“What the world needs now, is a new kind of tension, ’cause the old one just bores me to death.”
Discuss.
DB, Gwinnettian
March 10th, 2009
12:53 pm
Bosch @ 12.50, I know that tune. and I know the third buzzcocks’ lp was entitled “A different kind of tension,” and I thought maybe Cracker was paying sly homage to it. I’d like to think so anyway.
Taxpayer
March 10th, 2009
12:54 pm
Bosch,
My daughter is the typical teenager in that she is “always” bored but I’ve never heard her yearn for a new kind of tension.
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 10th, 2009
12:55 pm
They’re probing to access strength. If they perceive a weak reaction they will probe further. It’s an age old strategy.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
12:58 pm
Bosch,
no, what sucks is our two political parties have forgotten what ingenuity means. What built this country was hard work, smart people and ideas. Money has RUINED life in this country. Kids coming out of college expect be making what their parents make. Athletes crying that they only make 55 million per year while cheating to get there. Credit Card use has ruined people. China is only doing what any country would do. They have bought up all our debt and sooner or later they will come to collect. How does the mob collect money? Well, if you don’t pay them they break your kneecap or simply kill you. Either way we are screwed.
DB, Gwinnettian
March 10th, 2009
1:00 pm
HD @ 12.55, if you meant “assess” then, per usual, you make a lot of sense.
AmVet
March 10th, 2009
1:01 pm
Hey, but BushCo decided they were worthy of extending their most favored nation status!
BTW as a devout hopelessly backslidden Christian, born of a Jew, quasi-Hindu new age philosopher, I think the Christian Science Monitor does exceptionally good work…
GodHatesTrash, Superstar
March 10th, 2009
1:01 pm
I know quite a bit about our surveillance technology from my work with that northern Virginia information gathering and competetive analysis firm that I work(ed) with, and that spy plane was state of the art. It should have never fallen into enemy hands.
Like the Plame incident, an example of the Dumbya’s administration poor handling of classified material.
GodHatesTrash, Superstar
March 10th, 2009
1:04 pm
Osama and Saddam both played a game of “Rope a Dope” with Dumbya, which was easy to do. Obama isn’t as dumb as Dumbya.
Nobody is, except for Sarah Palin, maybe.
thecitizen
March 10th, 2009
1:08 pm
Borrowing trillions from the chinese dont help.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
1:11 pm
GodHatesTrash, Superstar aka Jeffery Dahmer,
you may want to include Bubba Clinton in this category. He did sell US secrets to the Chinese. OH wait that’s right, in your feeble mind only Bush is an idiot.
Phillips
March 10th, 2009
1:12 pm
If no ship was sunk, then who cares?
AmVet
March 10th, 2009
1:18 pm
Not content to damn near ruin the greatest nation in the history of mankind, King George IV was reviled from one end of the planet to the other:
“Bush was a horrible global statesman. Bill Clinton filled that void. If you read Clinton’s book, Giving, you’d think it was written by Newt Gingrich. It’s all about the value of public/private partnerships, microfinance and entrepreneurship. These are things that any Republican would want.” ~ Christopher Ruddy, editor of Newsmax, whose 130,000 circulation eclipses political peers Weekly Standard (81,000) and New Republic (100,000).
Feng
March 10th, 2009
1:26 pm
Majority of articles i have seen on this suggest very little knowledge on this.
First of all, there was a spat because USN sent its quietest surface ships with one of the most advanced sonar to beside China’s newest submarine base to get accoustic signatures. This is connected to 2001’s EP-3 incident, because in that case, the plane was there to spy on the construction of the new Hainan naval base.
This kind of cat and mouse game happens all the time between major navies of the world. The question is why did they choose to release it to the media. It could be the navy trying to get more funding with the new administration coming in. It could be a lot of things.
As for the dispute itself, it comes down to really what each side views as the boundary of China. Clearly at this point, there is no agreement as such. If you ever look at the Chinese map, you’d see that they claim the entire South China Sea as part of their territory. And then there is the issue of EEZ and the ship was definitely in the EEZ, but uS never ratified that treaty. So, clearly the two sides have different definition of what international law are in this case. In their own eyes, they are both right.
Dad
March 10th, 2009
1:27 pm
Please fertilize the lawn and help your mother with the dishes when you get home.
Love,
Dad
Pat
March 10th, 2009
1:31 pm
The fact is, it doesn’t matter if a hard-A rightwing warmongering moron was President (Bush), a thoughtful, negotiation-inclined peacenik (Carter), or somewhere in between (my take on Obama) Facts are facts. The ugly truth is, the Chinese own our butts, and they want to be sure we remember that fact, even if a new Prez is in place and his new Sec ‘O State wants to make little (whispered) distressed sounds about “human rights,” right after kissing their behinds. China owns us lock stock and barrel, and they enjoy putting us in our place every now and then – bent over, hands grasped around the ankles.
Khruschev may have bragged that the Soviet communists would “bury” us, but give the Chinese credit – their smarts were such that they figured out they didn’t have to.
Eventually, our own greed would tempt us to give away the store in exchange for the chance to tap their vast markets, harnessing the power of capitalism to enrich them, while our amoral values would turn a blind eye to brutality as long as there was a buck to be made. They let us destroy our own manufacturing base and turn a country of trained industrial assemblers into low wage retail clerks peddling Chinese plastic crap. All that – and a Chinese population that allows them to shrug off a billion or more casualties in a war – puts us where we are today; firmly under China’s thumb, and not a damn thing we can do about it. As if we needed another reason to hate Nixon … but truth be told, if he hadn’t opened China’s Pandora’s Box, Reagan, Bush or even Clinton (especially Clinton!) would have.
Neighbor
March 10th, 2009
1:32 pm
Note to neighbor,
Dog fertilized lawn this morning.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
1:33 pm
Pat,
you’ve pretty much summed up our PREdicament.
test
March 10th, 2009
1:42 pm
and our forceful and respected reply to such “messages” — send Hilary….
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
1:48 pm
test,
Yeah, Hillary sure is smart isn’t she. She is so smart that she just told a European audience that America’s democracy was older than Europe. Yep, that is sure one sharp woman.
Paul
March 10th, 2009
1:51 pm
Yeah, there’s a pattern. Just wondered how long the Chinese were going to take. Quite predictable in that regard.
Interesting, though – when they want to ‘test’ or make a play for respect, they resort to testosterone ‘mine’s bigger’ antics. Best thing the US Navy could do now is to take the videos of the Chinese in their underwear (they shucked their clothes after the Navy turned fire hoses on them) as they walked around their decks, speed up the video and add the Benny Hill music from the chase scenes at the end of the show.
Adolescent ridicule of a play for respect. Perfect for a country in which ’saving face’ means everything.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
1:52 pm
Can you say “Marines, standby to repel boarders” !!!
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
1:57 pm
To Bosch:
RW is correct. Obama is my President (whether I like it or not) and the Commander in Chief of the armed forces of the Unites States (whether I like it or not) but he is NOT “my” Commander in Chief as I no longer fall under the military chain of commmand. So, he may or may not be yours (but I doubt he is yours) as your have probably never served beyond the cub scouts. But if you have ………. thank you for your service.
To Mrs. G. :
Now what dear ma’am do you know about saber rattlin’ ?
Taxpayer
March 10th, 2009
1:57 pm
Jay,
If I didn’t know better, I’d say that you just don’t want me pickin’ on some folks. I just be a pickin’ and a grinnin’.
Paul
March 10th, 2009
1:59 pm
Taxpayer
You can pick your friends
and you can pick your nose
but you can’t…
Taxpayer
March 10th, 2009
2:01 pm
Watch out, Mrs. G. “The Corporal” might be one of the original rough riders — sabres rattling and all.
DB, Gwinnettian
March 10th, 2009
2:01 pm
“add the Benny Hill music ”
That’d be “Yakety Sax,” for those with an earworm in need of a-googlin’.
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
2:04 pm
…and so you’re dragging this teeny-tiny shot from a dead thread into this thread, why?
DB,
I may be overestimating your ability to comprehend, but let’s see if it isn’t pretty easy to figure that out.
It was on this thread where Jay B wrote a similarly mangled sentence to the one you childishly attacked on the last thread. Capice?
Besides, I’m trying to help you not revert back to your days as _____________ and that attack sounded more like the paltry contributions we used to get from _____________.
Taxpayer
March 10th, 2009
2:05 pm
Well, HeeHaw, is all I got to say on that subject. Yessirreee! I guess I could say “Awww boogers!” as well.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
2:06 pm
Hey, I have a great idea! Why don’t we send Hirrary Crinton over to negotiate with the Chinese over this “territorial waters” incident ?
Paul
March 10th, 2009
2:07 pm
Taxpayer
Just lookin’ for some endings I hadn’t yet heard.
I’ll add it to the list, which includes
‘but you can’t pick your friend’s nose’ and
‘but you can’t eat your friends.’
This is when Jay posts a new thread -
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
2:08 pm
Taxpayer:
BAYONETS !! ……………..
)
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
2:08 pm
“When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An’ go to your Gawd like a soldier.”
Rudyard Kipling
Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
March 10th, 2009
2:18 pm
Well, well, well – pretty clear now that the international community does not respect President Obama the way it respected President Bush. Then again, with Buffett, Krugman, Samuelson, Cramer, and Hoopee Goldstein all a changin’ their tunes and expressing remorse, it looks as all ain’t well at home either. There was noone who wanted President Obama to succeed than I did; however, one can only say things don’t look promising.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
2:24 pm
This may be the funniest video I have ever seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggy50aunhmU
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
2:24 pm
Commie @ 12:58,
Oh my God – we agree again!
Corporal,
I was never in the Cub Scouts – the outfits were retarded looking and there was no way I was doing all that crap for a dumb stupid patch.
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
2:26 pm
Corporal @ 2:08 –
Gross.
Paul
March 10th, 2009
2:29 pm
CommunistAJC
I don’t think all the free mental health clinics have closed…
Taxpayer
March 10th, 2009
2:31 pm
“The Corporal”,
Bayonets are for foot soldiers. Besides, I’m just along for the ride.
Paul,
I didn’t have any new lines (although I was tempted to use “boogers”) for that one that have not been pretty much worn thin. So, I decided to throw out the source of “pickin’ and a grinnin” (HeeHaw), in case some Northerners here had not heard of it before.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
2:32 pm
Paul,
??????????????????????????
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
2:33 pm
Bosch:
Sorry, but during the British time there in the 1800’s that often happened. Wounded Brits were left to the tortures of the women. Kipling was just writing truth.
Don’t feel bad. I wasn’t in the scouts either.
RealityKing
March 10th, 2009
2:36 pm
When China stops buying cheap US bonds America is going to see change like you never thought possible..
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
2:36 pm
Commie,
I think Paul’s trying to tell you there is free mental help available if you need it.
Sorry, I couldn’t resist.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
2:37 pm
HEADLINE: “Vaunted Obama message machine is off-key”
Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:27pm EDT
By Steve Holland – Analysis
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – When billionaire investor Warren Buffett says President Barack Obama’s economic message is muddled and undermining public confidence, it’s worth listening.
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5294HH20090310
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
2:38 pm
Corporal,
I have heard that before, I was just kidding earlier. It’s still gross though.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
2:40 pm
Bosch,
why would I need mental help? Don’t remember writing or saying anything that would suggest that I need mental health. Besides, my last check up went well. If he’s referring to that video you’d have to be a complete prude not to laugh. That video is hilarious.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
2:40 pm
BA…BA…BA…BAD TO THE BONE …………..
HEADLINE MSNBC: 9/11 Defendants: We’re ‘terrorists to the bone’
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico – Five men charged in the Sept. 11 attacks mock U.S. authorities and proclaim themselves “terrorists to the bone” in a war crimes court filing released Tuesday.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29615145/
Oh, that’s o.k. They can be released and rehabilitated.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
2:42 pm
Bosch:
Sure it is. War is hell.
“Dulce Bellum Inexpertis”
Copyleft
March 10th, 2009
2:42 pm
WyldByll: “Well, well, well – pretty clear now that the international community does not respect President Obama the way it respected President Bush.”
Huh? You’re a bit lacking in the ol’ reading comprehension there, Byll. This was from an article describing how the Chinese did the EXACT SAME THING soon after Bush took office.
As for “international respect for Bush”… you’re joking, right? We sure were dazzled with how much North Korea respected Mr. Bush and his bold response to their nuclear program: “Err, hmm… huh.”
getalife
March 10th, 2009
2:43 pm
I see they are getting ready to come get the private again.
Poor guy.
The list of accomplishments for our President in his first 50 days is very impressive but number one on his list is saving the economy.
This leaves our friends on the right stuck in a doom and gloom world.
Copyleft
March 10th, 2009
2:44 pm
Corporal: And who is suggesting they be released, exactly? This whole “Obama wants the Gitmo terrorists wandering around America!” nonsense is transparently silly.
I’d think you’d have at least SOME regard for the concept of due process, seeing as how you once swore to uphold the Constitution… then again, so did Bush.
DB, Gwinnettian
March 10th, 2009
2:44 pm
“It was on this thread where Jay B wrote a similarly mangled sentence to the one you childishly attacked on the last thread. Capice?”
I guess I don’t understand why you especially care about either Jay’s mangling, or my minor original quip. as for the “attack”, well, you wanted to know why I picked on “buzzkill” in the first place, so I explained. I thought the notion that Obama was creating the worstest environment for business EVER in the history of the USA was, well, dumb.
But by saying “is our children learning”, I thought, I was just giving buzz a gentle poke, at the time. Did you see it otherwise? Did you think, because I was quoting Bush, I was visiting all the sins of the Preznit upon the Buzzkill?
I wasn’t–when I quote a goofy Bushism, I’m just being goofy. Really.
Paul
March 10th, 2009
2:48 pm
Taxpayer
thanks for tryin -
CommunistAJC
That (2:24) was the FUNNIEST video you’ve ever seen?!!?
Okay.. well… different strokes for different folks, I guess…
Live and let live and all that…
Out for some mulch -
Hillbilly Deluxe
March 10th, 2009
2:49 pm
To DB @ 1:00
I did indeed meant assess. My hand to brain co-ordination isn’t good today. (Everyone feel free to insert your own punchline here).
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
2:51 pm
Paul!!!!
Check the mulch for fire ants!!!!!!!
Paul
March 10th, 2009
2:53 pm
Bosch
Gettin’ the bagged kind. But thanks. I remember the first time I got ambushed by those things.
I like unrestricted chemical warfare -
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
2:54 pm
DB,
Isn’t this horse sufficiently beaten? If you wander downstairs you’ll see that you quoted a mangled sentence about the market(s) before whacking it with your Bushism.
DB, Gwinnettian
March 10th, 2009
2:57 pm
Bosch, that guy you see doing yard work, including mowing, in the hottest weather, who insists on wearing leather gloves for protection? That’d be me.
(And mostly because my immune system isn’t up for yet another bout with the bacterial infection that invariably accompanies any encounter I might have with those exoskeletal critters.)
DB, Gwinnettian
March 10th, 2009
3:00 pm
“Isn’t this horse sufficiently beaten?”
Probably.
By way of penance, I think I’ll point out that when Brits say “flogging a dead horse” it may mean something different from when we say “beating a dead horse,” since to “flog” something over there can mean to sell it.
Anyone here know for sure? It’s one of those “been meaning to ask a Brit” questions I’ve had in the back of my mind for the longest time.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
3:02 pm
Copyleft:
Enemy combatants “out of uniform” should get zero (repeat zero) Constitutional protections whether captured in this country or overseas. They are the “enemy” and in violation of the Geneva Convention for not identifying themselves. Even a simple military unit patch would work – but of course cowards that they are they won’t wear one.
During the Battle of the Bulge, about a dozen German soldiers were caught out of uniform posing as U.S. Military Police (misdirecting traffic, etc.). General Eisenhower had them all shot the next day ….. no hearing, no attorney, no appeal, no nothing … but lead. They knew the rules.
I state again …. enemy combatants caught out of uniform deserve zero Constitutional protections.
"The Corporal"
March 10th, 2009
3:04 pm
To Getadeath:
You have obviously ignored the numerous negative news articles about Obama from CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, USAToday, etc., etc. that I have posted over the past three days. Many contained the views of “liberals” who are not very happy with the way things are going.
Are you an ostrich? But take heart …. I will continue in my effort to keep you informed.
Taxpayer
March 10th, 2009
3:07 pm
DB’s yard is being invaded by cylons.
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
3:07 pm
DB and Paul,
I got assaulted BIG TIME Friday by those specks of demonic flesh eaters. I’m not going to be able to wear my wedding ring for weeks from the blister in between my fingers. Wait a minute…..no nevermind.
RW-(the original)
March 10th, 2009
3:12 pm
Isn’t “Flogging a Dead Horse” a Sex Pistols album?
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
3:16 pm
Taxpayer,
Cylons invasions are a wee bit more problematic than fire ants.
Andy,
Have you watched the show anymore?
Bosch
March 10th, 2009
3:19 pm
Taxpayer,
Whoops! There goes my grammar – I mean “Cylon invasions” I had started to write “Cylons invading” but forgot to erase the “s.”
RW,
Yes indeedy it was.
Copyleft
March 10th, 2009
3:19 pm
Corporal: You’re changing the subject. I asked “Who was recommending that the Gitmo detainees be set free to wander America?”, the way the far-right nuts are always claiming?
The answer, of course (as you WELL know), is “No one.” Not once has such a suggestion ever been made. And yet you resort to that claim whenever Gitmo is brought up. Why is that, I wonder? If you know it’s untrue, doesn’t that make it… a lie?
DB, Gwinnettian
March 10th, 2009
3:25 pm
Isn’t “Flogging a Dead Horse” a Sex Pistols album?
Yes (well, a posthumous release, anyway–the band only recorded one album as such, anything that followed had to be live stuff, reissued tracks, or editing-room drek).
Now that you mention it, upon seeing that cover those many years ago, that might’ve been the first time I wondered about that particular phrase, and how Yanks and Brits interpret it.
As for why I’m asking now? Better late than never, I guess.
caz1158
March 10th, 2009
3:31 pm
G-in response to “obama will do whats best for the country”. Yeah, whats he going to do propose tax hikes for the rich in china? just kidding
@@
March 10th, 2009
3:31 pm
Everybody’s been over in the waters off Somalia practicing naval maneuvers, jay. They’ve had some success. Pirate attacks are down. Maybe China viewed their performance as something worth watching……deciding to strut their stuff a little closer to home. Who knows? I can offer you a summary analysis from Stratfor but ChaddyWick will complain. Who cares, right? Here we go:
It’s just an overcrowded Asian Sea. Japan has launched an undersea exploration mining for energy and mineral resources. North Korea’s engaged in a dispute with South Korea on the Northern Limit Line, then there’s China’s ongoing territorial dispute over islands in the South China Sea which is irritating the Phillipines, Malaysia and Vietnam.
China has a number of sensitive military activities going on on the Hainan Island. My understanding is that The Impeccable was within 75 miles of that island.
The world is shrinking. Everyone’s in a protectionist mode including the ROC’s Navy. Could be their trying to avoid budget cuts to their ambitious military “PLAN”.
Here’s a couple of tidbits on Iran’s maneuvers:
March 10, 2009 1519 GMT
Iran’s nuclear power plant will begin operation by Aug. 22, Agence France-Presse reported March 10. Energy Minister Parviz Fattah said the Russian-built 1,000 megawatt reactor in Bushehr will begin generating about 500 megawatts of electricity, and the reactor will be operating at full strength by March 2010.
March 10, 2009 | 1557 GMT
Former Iranian President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani called on Russia to follow through on its promise to launch the Bushehr nuclear power plant in August, RIA Novosti reported March 10. Rafsanjani said that he hopes Russia honors its obligations and “will not repeat the illogical delays to the final stage which have occurred in the past,” in a speech to Iran’s Assembly of Experts.
March 10, 2009 | 1709 GMT
Iran does not have weapons-grade highly enriched uranium and has not yet decided to produce the material, Reuters reported March 10, citing statements by U.S. Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair and Defense Intelligence Agency Director Lt. Gen. Michael Maples. The two officials told Congress that Iran’s recent missile tests were not directly linked to the country’s nuclear activities, and that Iran’s missile and nuclear programs are thought to be on different tracks. Blair and Maples said they believe Iran has not decided whether to move forward with its nuclear program.
Notice the time sequence. ‘Ya ever feel like the odd man out?
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March 10th, 2009
3:35 pm
Oh, and since I don’t always make it home in time to comment on your previous threads, jay, I’ll bring it up here.
Obama’s Recession? Well he did say “THIS WAS OUR TIME!” I wasn’t among the crowd of adoring fans. It is HIS time, I just don’t like how he’s “spending it”.
CommunistAJC
March 10th, 2009
3:35 pm
Paul,
I guess you don’t have a sense of humor.
Joey
March 10th, 2009
3:37 pm
When I read these post that blindly support everything and anything that President Obama proposes, I cringe. I ask myself, did I, did we do the same? Did I/we blindly support everything Bush?
My answer is no. And yes I expect most or all of you Obama-ites will disagree. Maybe post that I am in error, but you will be much more imaginative in your description of how wrong you think I am. Hey, it is o.k. with me. Rant on.
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March 10th, 2009
3:45 pm
O.K., I had to check out this video of CommunistAJCs.
All I can say is there’s a good reason men don’t give birth.
The sound effects were amusing.