The Fairness Doctrine is still dead
Many conservatives have been downright certain the Democrats were going to try to revive the Fairness Doctrine and thus silence right-wing talk radio. Why did they think that? Because right-wing talk radio hosts told them to think it, hoping to stoke the paranoia of their audience.
This week, however, the Senate voted overwhelmingly to once again kill the long-dead doctrine. I’ll even quote Fox News on the subject, just to fend off any claims that the vote is some left-wing media fabrication:
“The Senate approved an amendment Thursday that would outlaw the so-called “Fairness Doctrine,” an off-the-books policy that once required broadcasters to air opposing viewpoints on controversial issues.
Republican Sen. Jim DeMint’s amendment passed by a wide margin of 87-to-11. The South Carolina senator had attached his proposal, called the Broadcaster Freedom Act, to a bill to give the District of Columbia a voting representative in the House.”
Of course, I’m under no illusion that the vote will halt claims from the right that Fairness Doctrine is coming back. Paranoia, by definition, is immune to facts.
Interestingly, though, more and more folks on the right are coming to understand just how damaging talk-radio has become to their cause. They don’t come out and say it, but you get the sense that they might support reviving the Fairness Doctrine just to break the grip of Rush Limbaugh and his copycats on their movement’s message.
For example, conservative pundit John Derbyshire, who normally writes in National Review, has a provocative piece in the latest edition of American Conservative magazine, headlined “How Radio Wrecks the Right:”
“There is nothing wrong with lowbrow conservatism. It’s energizing and fun. What’s wrong is the impression fixed in the minds of too many Americans that conservatism is always lowbrow, an impression our enemies gleefully reinforce when the opportunity arises.
Thus a liberal like E.J. Dionne can write, “The cause of Edmund Burke, Leo Strauss, Robert Nisbet and William F. Buckley Jr. is now in the hands of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity. … Reason has been overwhelmed by propaganda, ideas by slogans.”
Talk radio has contributed mightily to this development.
It does so by routinely descending into the ad hominem—Feminazis instead of feminism—and catering to reflex rather than thought. Where once conservatism had been about individualism, talk radio now rallies the mob. “Revolt against the masses?” asked Jeffrey Hart. “Limbaugh is the masses.”
In place of the permanent things, we get Happy Meal conservatism: cheap, childish, familiar.”
Derbyshire’s last line is downright plaintive: “Why have we allowed carny barkers to run away with the Right?”
Damn fine question.
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Bosch
February 27th, 2009
3:44 pm
Paul,
I watched the British version – really good – the American version I’ve seen a couple times – it comes on after Lost which is my second favorite show. In the British version, if I remember correctly, Sam Tyler comes across a serial killer and it was hinting around that the serial killer was somehow connected to his past – and he had to find that out in order to get back.
The American version – I haven’t seen it enough to know where it’s going, but Michael Imperioli looks like an idiot on that show. OMG!
professional skeptic
February 27th, 2009
3:45 pm
Commie, if the demise of the AJC is a dark cloud on the horizon, then the silver lining will be never having to read another one of your childish, asinine posts.
Can I get an AMEN?
Have a good weekend, everybody.
Taxpayer
February 27th, 2009
3:45 pm
It’s your silly claim to be educated that I make fun of, Commie. If you were truly educated, you would have nothing displayed here for me to poke fun at.
caz1158
February 27th, 2009
3:46 pm
Jay-I’ve read similar articles stating the same.But whose to say their info was correct and others was’nt. How did so many throughout the world not mention mid-east have it so wrong? And if he did’nt have wmd’s what were we inspecting for? And what was it that he used on his own people? I know you truly believe that,I respect that. I don’t buy it.
Mike
February 27th, 2009
3:46 pm
Taxpayer -
You mean like we poke fun at you for your $866 billion cost assumption on a %787 billion debt at 10%?
LOL
Michael Mackend
February 27th, 2009
3:47 pm
Here’s why your entire article lacks any merit whatsoever.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=88823
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
3:48 pm
professional skeptic,
what surprises me most about you is that you can actually read. I mean, just reading your remark had me thinking that you’d just finished kindergarten. Hack.
Jay
February 27th, 2009
3:48 pm
MIKE:
Bush did lie. Just not about the WMD. He honestly believed, as did I, that Saddam possessed at least some bio and chem weapons.
The lies came in Bush’s claims of ties between Saddam and al Qaida, in his suggestion that Iraq had unmanned aerial vehicles that could reach our shores, that Iraq had a viable nuke program and that mushroom clouds could rise over American cities. And by posting those quotes you suggest those senators agreed with Bush. Four of the seven did not, and a significant majority of House Democrats did not.
As to the left-wing question, no. Others clearly categorize me that way, and that’s fine. But your question is whether I think of myself in those terms, and no, I don’t. It’s not how I approach things.
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
3:48 pm
Commie,
Are you being sarcastic? Name one war that wasn’t horrific? Surely you jest. Of course all wars are horrific. That’s not the point – and correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s not even what we are discussing.
Sorry, I can’t help you, Bill and I aren’t buddies. And ew – Monica was gross – why would you want that? That is nasty.
The labor unions have absolutely nothing to do with what is produced. The car companies are producing pieces of crap and putting all the profits in their own pockets.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
3:51 pm
Taxpayer,
I am educated, and no, you make fun of people whom you disagree with. That’s a fact, comrade. Doesn’t matter if I was a Harvard grad. Again, what university did you attend? Because right now I don’t believe that you even went to a college or university.
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
3:51 pm
Paul,
Forgot – I did see that episode where the guy committed suicide – that was funny – not the guy dying, but that line about the cell phones!
And yes, someone else runs the country – the aliens, duh!
RW-(the original)
February 27th, 2009
3:51 pm
If you want to see a US President weaving Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein together go read Bill Clinton’s 1999 SotU address.
ANd then there’s this
San Jose Mercury News
SUNDAY MORNING FINAL EDITION
Feb. 14, 1999
U.S. WORRIED ABOUT IRAQI, BIN LADEN TIES TERRORIST COULD GAIN EVEN DEADLIER WEAPONS
U.S. intelligence officials are worried that a burgeoning alliance between terrorist leader Osama bin Laden and Iraqi President Saddam Hussein could make the fugitive Saudi’s loose-knit organization much more dangerous
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
3:52 pm
Jay,
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Crybaby. Bush Lied blah blah blah.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
3:54 pm
Bosch,
you wrote: The labor unions have absolutely nothing to do with what is produced. The car companies are producing pieces of crap and putting all the profits in their own pockets.
Then who is putting these cars together, Unicorns?
AmVet
February 27th, 2009
3:54 pm
As evidenced clearly by that poll I cited above, one of the many things that amazes me is how the “conservatives” here have never owned up to how, even until the very bitter end, they continued to shuck and grin for the innumerable failures of the most chronically impeachable administration in American history.
In spite of the fact that their more rational brethren saw and selected McCain and NOT one of the eight neoliths in that party as the man to try and stem the horrific bleeding of a political party in complete disarray.
The most courageous statement I have EVER seen by one of the “faithful” here is along the lines of “I didn’t like everything Bush did.”
And of course, some of the more craven “conservative” cut & runners here feign being “constitutionalists” or “libertarians”. Rubbish. Liberal hating neo-cons through and through, without the backbone to admit it.
WTF? That’s it? Tepid, pansified non-reactions and constantly shooting the messenger because the message hits way to close to home?
Where is their outrage?
Where is their contrition for idiotically trusting the obviously untrustworthy and incompetent?
Where are their demands for justice for the countless victims of these criminals and their insistence on that much lauded, empty-headed, meaningless slogan, personal accountability?
Where is the acknowledgment that this repudiated non-conservative conservative ideology of theirs is a measureless failure? Making even the bungling Democratic crooks look magnificent in comparison.
All these willfully ignorant, business-as-usual, party-first fools want to do is slap a band aid on the hemorrhaging patient called “conservatism”, repackage the same old outdated tripe slightly via some “fresh new faces” like Sarah BarraClueless, Jim “Count de Money” DeMint and the Louisiana Flash, and see if the American people are gullible enough yet again to fall for it.
Preposterous.
It appears to be some sort of desperately demented political Custer’s Last Stand…
Goldie
February 27th, 2009
3:54 pm
Communist — I’ll take the state of Michigan over your “red state” of Kansas, where the religious bigots try to control their educational system and people are leaving in droves. Oh, wait — kinda like the state of GA, another “red state”…
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
3:54 pm
Commie,
That’s pretty low down to call the person who provides the blog and a place for you to vent a crybaby.
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
3:55 pm
Commie,
The workers (and unions) do not decide what is made – they put together the crappy pieces of crap that the bosses tell the to put together. Unicorns and the unions have nothing to do with that.
Brad Steal
February 27th, 2009
3:56 pm
Kummunist,
Please tell me where you went to school again. I didn’t hear it the 1st 20 times. Pleae provide a link to a picture of your diploma. I will be really impressed. For such a fancy school, you sure are poor at articulating your ideas. And for the record I went to S.U. The S stands for screw. ha ha.
B. Steal
Mike
February 27th, 2009
3:57 pm
Jay -
That is a gross distortion of what Bush said. but that’s fine. I guess you think Colin Powell lied too, right? Sure, you do.
Then you move on to distorting my statements. I never said that the Senators in question did agree with Bush to go to war (although almost half of them did.) As I stated very clearly, I posted those quotes in response to the claim that Bush lied about Saddam’s WMD. The Senators very clearly agreed with him on that matter. As usual, you never argue the points I actually make, just the ones that you think you have an easy answer for.
No response on my question about Hillary’s direct claim of explicit ties between Saddam and AQ? Big shocker.
And of course you don’t consider yourself left-wing. But of course, you have no problem believing that conservative pundits are right-wing. Just as you have no problem believing that Fox is biased but the AJC is not. Self-awareness is not your strong suit.
Is the Fairness Doctrine dead? - Whatever Is Right
February 27th, 2009
3:58 pm
[...] conservatives’ vigilance on free speech and concern over the Fairness Doctrine with “paranoia” stoked by right-wing hosts like Limbaugh and [...]
Brad Steal
February 27th, 2009
3:59 pm
Hi Everybody,
If you haven’t heard the of-so-clever Communist when to Duke? And incase, you did not get that Communist went to Duke and his college record was Duke. Has anyone heard that Communist went to Duke?
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
4:00 pm
Brad Steal,
Yeah, I think I have heard that a time or two (thousand)!
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:00 pm
Goldie,
you are retarded. I have never been to Kansas. I live in Chicago. Oh, please go back to Michigan and freeze to death.
Bosch,
low? Hypocrite, go back and look at all the names your buddies have called many people on this blog.
Brad Steal,
you’ve proven my point. You never went to college did you? Poor Brad. Make fun of my education all you want pal because right now I’m sitting pretty in Chicago.
caz1158
February 27th, 2009
4:00 pm
Jay-If your going state the obvious about politician lying,man,please make sure you state any and all who have held office. Please don’t say but those others did’nt get us into a war. Tell all how we really got into WWII & Vietnam. For whatever reason I believe this bothers people from the left is because of WHO it was that got us into a war!!! I did’nt see the same venom in regards to Roosevelt or Kennedy!
Copyleft
February 27th, 2009
4:00 pm
Mike: You’re 100% right that many Democrats considered Saddam a problem, a tyrant, and a murderous bastard.
However, it was ONLY the Bush administration that insisted we had to go to war with him. And that war turned out to be completely unnecessary, a proven fact.
Next question?
Brad Steal
February 27th, 2009
4:01 pm
Wow. Duke.
RW-(the original)
February 27th, 2009
4:01 pm
This is probably pushing it since I certainly go off topic quite a bit, but it’s pretty funny that Jay B has come in with three off topic comments so far.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:02 pm
Bosch,
if you don’t like me what schools I went to then please ask others not to ask. Taxpayer brought it up a few pages ago.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:02 pm
Sad Seal,
where did you attend college? Curious because you keep on making fun of my school.
PJ
February 27th, 2009
4:03 pm
To: Caz1158 – Credibility, semedibilty, I like KO. All of you Conservatives belong on his “Worst List” along with the rest of the usual suspects. How you can use a word like credibility and Limbaugh in the same statement in any form is a mystery to me.
To: Comm.AJC: Please don’t brag too much about businesses in Ga with the peanut paste scandal, exploding sugar plants, a power company ready to ripe us all off and Purdue’s great land deals there’s not a lot to sing praises to.
Also Please don’t keep quoting Clint Eastwood. He needs to worry about all his ex-wives (at least three) and Baby Mama’s (at least two) then to concern himself with the state of our political system.
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
4:03 pm
Commie,
Hypocrite? No, that would be if I called Jay a crybaby and then called you out for calling him one, and that’s not what I did, I said it was low of you to do so.
What others do on this blog does not concern me.
Brad Steal
February 27th, 2009
4:04 pm
Anyone who needs to take every chance to CLAIM (hummm???) where they went to college, couldn’t have possibly gone to …. Duke.
Communist where did you go to school? I would be very impressed if it was Duke. Was it…. Duke?
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:04 pm
Copyleft,
so if democrats were all for getting rid of Saddam then how is Bush the bad guy? He actually had the balls to go in. Ha, no pun intended. Bill Clinton was too busy with his balls in Monica’s mouth. Opps, did that offend someone?
Taxpayer
February 27th, 2009
4:05 pm
Look back through your own posts, Commie. How about what you did with Brad. You attacked his education. You uneducated hypocrite. Let me know when you want to send the documentation to Jay. Yours against mine, little fella.
I Report/ You Whine
February 27th, 2009
4:05 pm
WASHINGTON — Amid complaints from has own party that he’s moving too slowly to end the war in Iraq, President Barack Obama will announce Friday that U.S. combat troops will be withdrawn by Aug. 31, 2010, but that as many as 50,000 Marines and soldiers would remain until the end of 2011.
hehehehehehe
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:06 pm
Not to change the subject or anything but…..
Obama’s Strange Habit of Denying What He’s Doing
By Mona Charen
It became clear back in October when the tsunami called the financial crisis washed over the United States (and the rest of the world), that the 2008 election might be a deeply consequential one. Until the economy tanked, the contest between Barack Obama and John McCain was about conventional Democrat/Republican disagreements. Even differences over the war in Iraq and foreign policy had seemed to contract with the continued progress of Gen. David Petraeus’ strategy. Though Barack Obama had the most liberal voting record of any senator, his campaign gave no appearance of extremism. You might have had your private doubts, but on paper he was a gun-defending proponent of traditional marriage who simply wanted to make government work better. Pro-union? Sure. A down the line supporter of abortion rights? Yes. But an FDR-style statist with grand ambitions to alter the American political landscape? No.
Immediately after the election, Obama chose a number of centrist advisers and even kept Robert Gates at the Pentagon. Some of us wondered whether he was really planning to govern from the center. Left-wing bloggers began to shift uneasily in their chairs. But they can relax now. With his “stimulus” package and his quasi-State of the Union address this week, President Obama has made it abundantly clear that he intends to hustle this country into European nanny state socialism if he can (and just as fast as he can).
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/dead_end.html
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
4:08 pm
Commie @ 4:02 –
Are you asking me if I like you? I don’t know you that well. And nope, that’s not my job to ask others not to mention your school – you seem to be proud of your school and education – why apologize for it?
Mike
February 27th, 2009
4:09 pm
Copyleft -
“However, it was ONLY the Bush administration that insisted we had to go to war with him. And that war turned out to be completely unnecessary, a proven fact.”
Well, actually, to Jay’s point, it was also 39% of Congressional Democrats including folks like Hillary Clinton and John Edwards who were both big supporters of the war.
It was also the administrations in the UK, Spain, Italy and Australia, but who’s counting. LOL
Jay
February 27th, 2009
4:09 pm
Mike, Hillary blew it. She should have known better, and maybe even did.
And whether it was a failure of judgment or integrity on her part, in the end she paid for that mistake because it cost her the presidency. Justice was done.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:09 pm
Bosch,
so, in your mind, its only what I do?
Taxpayer,
Brad Steal attacked me first. You should actually READ what people write instead of cherry picking comments. And no, I will not openly debate you on Jay’s blog. It’s too one-sided for my taste. I’m uneducated? Ok, taxpayer keep telling yourself that.
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
4:11 pm
Commie,
Yeah, that was tasteless, and Clinton did bomb Iraq in 1998.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:12 pm
Bosch,
not really looking for friends on this site. I am proud of my education. So, next argument…
Jay,
Biden DID vote for the war. Explain that, comrade. Hillary blew it? Uh, well since Bill wasn’t there I guess she had to blow something.
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
4:12 pm
Commie @ 4:09 –
What? No, Commie, it’s not just in my mind – it’s here on the blog for all to see.
Mike
February 27th, 2009
4:12 pm
Jay –
That’s great, but was she a liar as you so easily called Bush? How about Colin Powell?
You give a pass to people that share your political views. All others are immoral.
Pick a standard of acceptable behavior and stick with it please.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:13 pm
Bosch,
what was tasteless? Clinton bombed a sand dune with a cruise missile.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:13 pm
Bosch,
what are we even arguing about?
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:14 pm
Mike,
Jay only thinks that Republicans can be evil and racists.
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
4:14 pm
Commie @ 4:02, you wrote:
“if you don’t like me what schools I went to then please ask others not to ask. Taxpayer brought it up a few pages ago”
It sounded like you were asking me if I like you, which I replied that I don’t know you that well. If I’m wrong, then sorry.
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
4:16 pm
Commie,
The balls joke was tasteless and you need to read more if you think all Clinton did was bomb a sand dune.
Are we arguing? I never argue – but I’m not sure, you keep changing the subject.
Jay
February 27th, 2009
4:17 pm
Commie, surely a Duke man can frame a better rebuttal than that.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:18 pm
Bosch,
the balls joke was not a joke. What Clinton did was tasteless. Well, except for Monica because she tasted it. Anyway, get a sense of humor, Bosch. OH, yes, Clinton bombed an empty factory. That sure showed Osama didn’t it?
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:20 pm
Jay,
better than what rebuttal? I’ve posted too many to know which one you are talking about. Oh, and Jay, remember that little blunder on your part with the typo? Yeah, I’d advise you to hire a proof reader because they do come in handy.
Paul W.
February 27th, 2009
4:20 pm
Observer, Communist AJC, Mike and caz1158-
We are wasting our time, these people are not capable of engaging in mature debate.
Notice how all of the liberals must use childish ridicule in their conversations- demeaning nicknames and labels, insults, calling someone “little man”, boasting of their education, et. al. They cannot defend their positions without resorting to name-calling and creating straw men to topple because their ideas are not compatible with the original American values.
We probably should avoid these blogs and refuse to read Bookman, but it’s like tryng to avoid looking at a car accident. You try and you try, but you find yourself looking at the carnage.
Mike
February 27th, 2009
4:24 pm
Uh Jay.
Why is Bush a liar and Hillary not a liar?
Considering that was the whole point of my argument, it would be nice if you would actually address what I say for once.
I have answered your argument. Please do me the courtesy of responding in kind.
Taxpayer
February 27th, 2009
4:25 pm
Commie,
I do not ask you to openly debate since I have proven time and time again that you do not know how to debate. I said that I challenge you to prove your claimed education and I will do the same by us sending documentation to Jay. That way, your fear of losing your anonymity is removed and we can see once and for all who speaks the truth about the education. Come now, little fella, that’s not asking too much of one so proud of his “Duke” education, is it? After all, you would put it on your resume, wouldn’t you?
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:28 pm
Paul W.,
here are a couple of my thoughts. One: I come on this site to remind Jay just how ignorant his rants are about conservatives. Two: I like to remind Jay that his newspaper is failing. 3: I like to post rebuttals to his “topics” so that we can have debate. The rest of these people are just fodder. They name call and sometimes I have to play their game. It’s fun until they get nasty when cornered about their credentials. Most of them probably live in their moms basement.
PJ
February 27th, 2009
4:33 pm
Bush lied, people died. I for one see nothing remotely funny about that statement. My God, you people seem to think that because some people or some country went along with this unnecessary war that the consequences are justifiable. I am glad the war dead will now receive the televised home coming honors they rightly deserve (as all our allies do). Maybe we would have called for an end sooner if we had been doing it all along. Nothing, nothing was worth what Bush and Co. has done to our military. Diplomacy was a bad word to them but the lives and limbs of our troops meant the war machine could make millions. I am sick of stay at home orators singing the Star Spangled Banner while others did the sacrificing. Tax cuts for the rich in a time of war, outrageous. You are all a bunch of cowards. YOU MAKE ME SICK!
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:34 pm
Taxpayer,
I had to reread your rant about handing my resume to Jay. Seriously, you must be a complete moron to think that anyone would e-mail or fax a resume to a doomed AJC writer.
Mike
February 27th, 2009
4:37 pm
PJ -
“My God, you people seem to think that because some people or some country went along with this unnecessary war that the consequences are justifiable.”
Nobody said that, so no reason to hyperventilate about it. I am simply asking why Bush is a liar and Hilalry is not. Still can’t get a single Bush-hater to answer the question. It’s a simple one.
“You are all a bunch of cowards. YOU MAKE ME SICK!”
You think I care what some frothing partisan who shouts in caps thinks?
Please. Your arguments are boilerplate garbage.
Just remember: anyone who doesn’t share your every view is evil.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:37 pm
Taxevader, one more thing. You must be either naive or just stupid to think that anyone would just e-mail over their resume for the sake of a blog. You’re a very ignorant person.
Taxpayer
February 27th, 2009
4:38 pm
I know that math is not a Republican’s strong suit so I’ll try once again for the benefit of the slower ones here: Now, pull out your calculators and don’t forget to turn it on, it won’t work otherwise. Now, enter 787 times 1.1 and press the little equals button and magically it displays 866. If you did not get 866, then please keep banging the keys until you do. Also, please note that 865.7 is rounded up to 866 if you happen to get that far.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:38 pm
PJ,
take a Valium and go back to sleep.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:40 pm
Taxevader,
you’re very, what’s the word, ah yes, moronic. So now we, evil republicans, can’t do simple math. Do you have a poll for this statement? No, it’s just made up crap like the rest of your rhetoric.
Taxpayer
February 27th, 2009
4:40 pm
Put the documents on the line, Commie. By the way, it’s actually very common practice to e-mail resumes these days. Demand that refund. Do it for the children. If you like, I’ll write to Duke on your behalf.
Mike
February 27th, 2009
4:42 pm
Jay –
As usual, you take the time to argue against a bunch of points that I never made, yet utterly refuse to address the points I did make. That is incredibly lame, but par for the course for you.
Taxpayer
February 27th, 2009
4:42 pm
Pull out your calculator, Commie, and I’ll try to help you through this tough moment in this minute of your life. Do you have an HP or TI calculator.
Jay
February 27th, 2009
4:44 pm
Mike, Hillary MAY be a liar depending on whether she actually believed what the administration was claiming or whether she was merely mouthing what was politically popular at the time. As I indicated earlier, it was either a failure of judgment or integrity.
But the deceit emanated from the administration, which controlled the intelligence. The decision to go to war and the argument for doing so was driven by the administration. The push for war did not come from Congress, and it most certainly did not come from Democrats in Congress, although some certainly ceded to it.
AmVet
February 27th, 2009
4:45 pm
After forty years, no one falls for their cr@p anymore.
Here are the hard cold realities:
Even since Nixon and ESPECIALLY Reagan, the steal and spend GOP has been all about BIG government.
They, in cahoots with their historically kowtowed partners in crime across the aisle, created untold billions of dollars in unnecessary debt and not only oversaw the attempted corporate destruction of capitalism, they actually orchestrated it. Then “in response” President George W. Bush became the inaugural and greatest of the new age socialists back in September.
They’ve wasted gazillions of dollars on a bloated, wasteful, redundant and corrupt military budget. And complain we aren’t spending ENOUGH!!! Though it is the same amount of money as the rest of the world’s military budget combined. Not that we could do anything else with the $14,000,000 per hour we spend in Iraq alone.
They implemented trickle-down class warfare and ungodly, nearly immeasurable corporate welfare resulting in the untold suffering of the sovereign people.
As if being fiscally corrupt wasn’t enough, they are the nosiest, most intolerant Americans ever born. And almost anti-American in their still beloved McCarthyism.
Hit lists. Wars on Drugs, wars on pornography. Selling guns illegally to the Iranians with the profits channeled to right wing murderers in Central America, all out of the White House basement. Snooping on Americans without a judicial warrant. (BTW illegal wiretapping is a first class felony punishable by up to five years in prison.) Suspending habeus corpus under the pretext of national security. Haters of the right to privacy they would ensure nothing but dangerous, back-alley, illegal abortions yet again given the chance.
Their longstanding track record is damned near as bad as the Mafias.
And though they pretend to be the GREAT DEFENDERS of the First Amendment, they want to pollute the most sacred document ever written, the US Constitution, with flag-burning amendments and such lunacy.
And four decades on it appears that these people will never stop trying to legislate morality.
And now they righteously and valorously stand against the Fairness Doctrine.
Yet the “faithful’ here show up day after day after day and wish greatly to infringe on the voices of those they disagree with. Or even find objectionable.
Hell, Mikey the Chaste and Pure, the Demander in Chief of Bookman’s Blog, has a crybaby record utterly unrivaled in this regard. And after nearly two years of seeing such bellyachers come and go, that says something in this asylum! Virtually every other post of his is some sort of self-righteous fault finding and personal affront/ provocation. (But only to “non-libertarians” apparently!)
Like Nazi Germany, this vile and worsening, deadly GOP has to be destroyed first. And then rebuilt into a democratic, freedom loving organization. Then onto the other part of the Axis, the Democrats…
We, the few, who are not owned by the American Poliburo, have a helluva task in front of us.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:47 pm
Taxevader,
yes it is common to post resumes. TO POTENTIAL EMPLOYERS YOU MORON. I have NOTHING to prove to you. You are nobody with nothing important to say. You are looking more and more like an uneducated Clayton County Non-Grad. Go sell your stupidity somewhere else.
What tough moment in my life? You don’t know anything about me. Keep talking Taxevader because you are a clown.
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
4:48 pm
I never said what Clinton did wasn’t tasteless. Again, you are changing the subject. And again, you should read more about the 1998 bombing. It was a little more than that.
PJ
February 27th, 2009
4:49 pm
Like I said, you are a bunch of cowards. The truth hurts and Mike and Comm.AJC prove my point. Strap on a uniform and a gun like my son is doing now, and his father did, and his father before him. like my dad did and like my brother did and then come back with your glorious war talk. Until you do take your college degrees and opinions and stick them where the sun doesn’t shine. GET THAT LOUD AND CLEAR!
Mike
February 27th, 2009
4:50 pm
Jay –
So Bush IS a liar and Hillary MAY be a liar. She had access the same intel Bush did and also the same intel that her husband did. Your double standards are pathetic.
How about Colin Powell, as I asked before? He was part of the evil Bush admin.Is he a liar too?
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:50 pm
Jay,
what about Hillary’s lies about Vince Foster and Whitewater?
Bosch,
Clinton bombed an empty factory. There was nothing in it. He did not get Bin Laden or go after Al Queda. Bush went after Al Queda. End of story.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:52 pm
PJ,
I own lots of guns. My dad, granddads and uncles all served. Glad your son is serving. As for you, shove off.
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
4:53 pm
Paul W.,
No one forces you to be here, and if you’ll look at the posts of the people you named, they collectively do what you are describing. So are you saying that Commie et all are liberals?
caz1158
February 27th, 2009
4:53 pm
PJ-BUSH LIED PEOPLE DIED,come on is that the best you can do. The house and senate voted for the war. The world applauded but as usual sat on their collective thumbs.Remind me who got us into into Vietnam and how many bodybags returned because of it??Bush is gone get over it!!! He presented the facts given to him and made judgements based on them. The only thing I disagree with Bush on in regards to the war is- When we go to war,we should go to win. War should never be politicized. War is – You kill your opponent whereever and whenever you can!! You don’t handcuff your military on what they can and cannot do to win!!!! Let them do the job they were sent over there. Plain and simple-War is about kickin your opponents A*S. Maybe if we had done that in Nam,we would have alot more respect worldwide!!! Keep politics out of war!!!
Mike
February 27th, 2009
4:54 pm
Jay –
Just to be clear:
You know for a fact that Bush knew there were no WMD and hence IS a liar?
Any chance that he was just wrong too? Why the benefit of the doubt for the current Sec of State?
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
4:55 pm
PJ,
your basically saying that Mike and I are cowards and evil, right? Yet it is you who are name calling. Go sell stupid somewhere else. Your son and family know EXACTLY what they sign up for. They are not victims. Being in the military can, oh my gosh, mean that you go to war. Your son knew the risks. Good for him. You’re using your son as a shield to name call other people in hopes that we will not retaliate. Not gonna happen, PJ.
Copyleft
February 27th, 2009
4:55 pm
“so if democrats were all for getting rid of Saddam then how is Bush the bad guy?”
They weren’t the ones pushing for a WAR as the only possible response to Saddam. That was the Bushies. And, as everyone now knows, they were wrong.
Kind of like a lot of people here snipe about how Obama is evil… but the guy who actually picks up a gun and takes a shot at him is still the Bad Guy. He pushed it too far.
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
4:57 pm
Commie,
That bombing had nothing to do with OBL, and? You’re dancing around like a troubadour.
caz1158
February 27th, 2009
4:58 pm
Guy’s-sorry about the rant. I’m just so tired of sissy A*SSSSSSES that would rather see us (USA) fail as oppose to succeed!!!! Same as with the Economy-Screw the people that succeed,because of a few rotten apples.BUT reward the MANY scumbbuckets that rely solely on government and blame the rich for their pathetic existance!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jay
February 27th, 2009
4:59 pm
No Mike, I have NEVER said Bush knew there was no WMD.
caz1158
February 27th, 2009
5:01 pm
Jay-Then how did he lie,if the evidence does’nt support it!
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
5:01 pm
Bosch,
when did Paul W call me a liberal? Must have missed that post.
PJ
February 27th, 2009
5:01 pm
CommAJC – all talk no action.
caz1158 – All war is politics and if you don’t know that ask some one who does. Be it about land, slaves, the bible or WMD’s it’s all politics. As someone once wrote, “all wars are holy to thoses who don’t have to fight them”.
AmVet
February 27th, 2009
5:02 pm
caz, I may be reading that 4:58 incorrectly, but are you saying that this economic meltdown is due to a “few rotten apples”?
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
5:03 pm
Bosch,
who bombed the embassy in Kenya? USS COLE? What was the cruise missile going to accomplish? You’re confused Bosch.
Observer
February 27th, 2009
5:05 pm
Paul W –
I agree with your car wreck analogy. I left this blog for a few months because I grew weary of the pointless mudslinging between its regular participants.
Although I find Jay to be blindly partisan (I find it astonishing that he doesn’t consider himself left-wing), his blogs do provide fodder for political discourse. Sadly, one is forced to wade through several pages of garbage in order to engage in any meaningful discourse.
The concept of freely spoken political debate is the foundation upon which this great country is built. I (for the time being) am willing to endure the useless drivel that consumes most of this blog in order to engage in a difference of opinion with the intelligent few.
caz1158
February 27th, 2009
5:05 pm
PJ-True Wars are mostly polictical. But what I said,politics should’nt govern strategies.Your putting the worlds finest in harms way,then let do what they have to do.Politics at home(ie-funding,equipment,left/right blame games) should stay out.
caz1158
February 27th, 2009
5:09 pm
AmVEt-no I was using a generality in regards hatred towards the wealthy-no The Sh*t we’re was caused by to many of different circumstances to mention here.
PJ
February 27th, 2009
5:13 pm
CommAJC – You hide your ignorance behind college degrees. I stated my opinion and told of my family. I am proud of my son and encouraged him to serve his country. Does that mean I can’t criticize what I see as wrong. It’s people of your ilk that makes one justified in saying you are a hypocrite and a coward.
Tom
February 27th, 2009
5:15 pm
What I find interesting is that the right is trying to spin efforts to promote more diversity in ownership (i.e., not so much corporate radio ownership) as something evil. Syndicated talk radio works because it is CHEAPER not better than local radio. Corporate cutbacks give us more and more syndication (see WGST). The hosts are promoting the owners’ line that localism is bad because they want to keep their big paychecks and the station owners don’t want to hire anybody. Why is Jim De Mint against local South Carolinians hosting talk shows instead of a nonstop diet of Rush from Palm Beach, Hannity from NYC and Boortz from ATL? Why is he corporate radio’s lapdog? Or have conservatives — the party that used to say government is best when it is closest to the people — decided that radio is best when it is farthest away from the people?
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
5:20 pm
PJ,
nothing you say can bother me.
Mike
February 27th, 2009
5:20 pm
Jay –
“No Mike, I have NEVER said Bush knew there was no WMD.”
OK, then why do you say that Hillary MAY be a liar but Bush IS a liar?
You say that Hillary MAY be a liar because she might have gotten bad intel. Why does that standard not apply to Bush?
Can you answer that specific question that I have been asking all along?
caz1158
February 27th, 2009
5:21 pm
PJ-although I don’t agree with your politics,I respect your right to them. I Salute all members of your family for there service of this GREAT COUNTRY!!
Mike
February 27th, 2009
5:22 pm
Tom –
Excuse me if this makes no sense:
Incanta?
caz1158
February 27th, 2009
5:24 pm
TOM-All true,but is not also true that these shows are ratings homeruns and that advertising dollars reflect it. There’s always more to the story,please tell it.
Bosch
February 27th, 2009
5:27 pm
Commie,
Damn. Why are you bouncing around? The Cole was bombed in 2000, and the bombings in Kenya did happen in August 1998, and Clinton did bomb Iraq that December, but that bombing was not in response to those attacks. Clinton bombed other places, in response to that, including Afghanistan.
Keep up dude. You are the one confused and dancing around like a jester.
Paul W. said that liberals name call, boast about their education and the sort.
CommunistAJC
February 27th, 2009
5:33 pm
Bosch,
what did that missile strike accomplish?
I’m only confused because you have yet to make a point. Paul W. was actually agreeing with me on a few things. Also, I have never “boasted” about my degree. I only wrote about it, originally, because someone said that all Duke grads were racists. Taxpayer brought up the topic today when he challenged my education. Look for yourself.