The greatest conservative movies
National Review has a list of what it calls “the 25 best conservative movies of the last 25 years.”
Top of the list was “The Lives of Others”, a 2007 German movie. National Review quotes the late William F. Buckley Jr. as calling it “the best movie I ever saw,” and I might even concur with Buckley. It is truly a wonderful film, with great characters and acting, high drama, politics, suspense, surprising twists — but I have no idea what makes it a conservative movie in the eyes of National Review.
The same is true of the No. 4 movie, “Forrest Gump,” and No. 6 movie, “Groundhog Day.” Jonah Goldberg writes that “for the conservative, the moral of (Groundhog) is that redemption and meaning are derived not from indulging your ‘authentic’ instincts and drives, but from striving to live up to external and timeless ideals. Murray begins the film as an irony-soaked narcissist, contemptuous of beauty, art, and commitment. His journey of self-discovery leads him to understand that the fads of modernity are no substitute for the permanent things.”
Personally, I never thought of “Gump” or “Groundhog” in political terms. But if you insist on viewing them from that perspective, I’d argue that Murray’s transformation in “Groundhog” occurs once he finally understands that it takes a village and he ought to be part of that village. He becomes more liberal, in other words.
Furthermore, it’s a total mystery to me why conservatives would identify with a character who is sentenced to doing the same thing over and over again, unable to free himself from the selfish mindset that makes him unpopular with others, until finally, after repeated rejection, he decides he has to change and actually tries to help people.
Why would conservatives relate to that, I wonder?
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Hillbilly Deluxe
February 15th, 2009
6:11 pm
Maybe the people that made that list just had too much time on their hands.
AJC/DNC Management
February 15th, 2009
6:25 pm
Passion of the Christ.
With out a doubt.
Hang em high, a close second.
Andy the welcher
February 15th, 2009
6:26 pm
I don’t think Forest Gump would welch, but Andy does.
ew
@@
February 15th, 2009
6:35 pm
Good grief! How many times must I say this….
Art is subjective.
About Obama’s three-day vacation.
It’s likely he’s gearing up to face GM’s “Restructuring” plan slated for Tuesday?
Report: GM to say, ‘more aid or bankruptcy’
Sounds like extortion to me.
Makes Obama the “baloney” in their sandwich.
Taxpayer
February 15th, 2009
6:51 pm
From below:
The real bucks being tossed around are not those in the stimulus plan. The stimulus plan money is just the feel good stuff to distract the masses. This is the real stuff here and it ain’t over yet.
Of course, I can understand why this topic is not on anyone’s best seller or most talked about, etc., type of list.
RW-(the original)
February 15th, 2009
6:51 pm
How is it that A Few Good Men didn’t make it? I know Meathead tried to make a movie that trashed the military, which by definition makes it a liberal movie, but when the spit hits the fan everybody pretty well hopes Colonel Jessup is actually out there.
Ray
February 15th, 2009
6:55 pm
Forrest Gump is my favorite all time movie. I suppose you can politicize almost anything if the spin is right but if you take Forrest for who he is, he represents responsibility and a sense of moral values that he feels are important…. “I just gotta find Bubba”. He looks on the bright side…. “Some nights, when the rain stopped, it was beautiful”. A sense of purpose….. “I’ll be right here when you get back”.
Not that these traits should be regulated to either political party. I wonder if Bookman is making fun or is he just having trouble filling in an opinion slot.
Thomas Paine
February 15th, 2009
6:56 pm
All time conservative movie -”Green Beret”.
Taxpayer
February 15th, 2009
7:12 pm
Well, I certainly would have expected to see Planet of the Apes or at least that new war movie that they’re still ironing out the title for. I think they’re leaning toward How to retire from the military as a millionaire after just a single tour in Iraq or something like that. They were even talking about adding that title to the list of … for Dummies books out there so everyone can join in on the act without needing to wait for a stimulus package. That’s all for now though. The Pizzas just arrived.
rcs
February 15th, 2009
7:16 pm
Thanks for the article taxpayer. Shocking to see numbers like that.
@@
February 15th, 2009
7:21 pm
O.K., so my neighbor asked if I wanted to watch a bootleg copy of “Taken” last night. I did. From the movie:
“Listen, sweetheart….this is very important….they’re going to take you. When they do you must tell me everything you can about them. I will come for you but I must know something about them before I do.”
“THEY’RE ALL LIBERAL/SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS,” she screams.
The “American Thinker” has a good article that offers a side by side comparison of Obama’s political moves to those of Chavez in Venezuela.
I can see it….rally I can.
rcs
February 15th, 2009
7:40 pm
Just for fun, Top Five: Liberal Movies that don’t s….. From dirtyharrysplace.com
1. Dead Man Walking (1994)
2. Norma Rae (1979)
3. The China Syndrome (1979)
4. Three Days of the Condor (1975)
5. A Civil Action (1998)
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
7:46 pm
I got back and read the comments on the last thread on posting. From what I read from @@, RW, and Taxpayer it seems that some standard markup doesn’t always work–I’ve had hit and miss posting also. My additional problem is I don’t know squat about markup language and some conventions I thought I knew which may be specific to some sites like [b]bold[/b] don’t work–also I seem to remember some “tags?” for color like @@ reference for red that don’t work here.
When you go searching for wordpress conventions (if this is wordpress) you find hit after hit that seems esoteric to me–I’m sure not to the participants. It might be a problem for me that I don’t know zip about basic html conventions or using html, Dreamweaver, or anything else for web design either. It’s one of many areas of software I haven’t gotten into.
I don’t think any of these conventions work from this site so they must be markup specific to it.
Woody’s Lounge Forum Help
I appreciate Taxpayer’s link to “My First Site.” I also wonder if you can post more than one link, because under the previous convention, I couldn’t do that. I didn’t want to post multiple links so much as a couple at a time.
I did put a suggestion on preview in the “Tell Us What You Think” but I don’t know where that goes. I guess I should have said something about the hit and miss posting. I’m not sure what triggers it if there are no “off color” words, etc.
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
7:54 pm
I got back and read the comments on the last thread on posting. From what I read from @@, RW, and Taxpayer it seems that some standard markup doesn’t always work–I’ve had hit and miss posting also. My additional problem is I don’t know squat about markup language and some conventions I thought I knew which may be specific to some sites like using just b’s for “bold” instead of spelling out strong, don’t work (my first post showing the b’sconvention didn’t publish–also I seem to remember some “tags?” for color like @@ reference for red that don’t work here.
When you go searching for wordpress conventions (if this is wordpress) you find hit after hit that seems esoteric to me–I’m sure not to the participants. It might be a problem for me that I don’t know zip about basic html conventions or using html, Dreamweaver, or anything else for web design either. It’s one of many areas of software I haven’t gotten into.
I don’t think any of these conventions work from this site so they must be markup specific to it.
Woody’s Lounge Forum Help
I appreciate Taxpayer’s link to “My First Site.” I also wonder if you can post more than one link, because under the previous convention, I couldn’t do that. I didn’t want to post multiple links so much as a couple at a time.
I did put a suggestion on preview in the “Tell Us What You Think” but I don’t know where that goes. I guess I should have said something about the hit and miss posting. I’m not sure what triggers it if there are no “off color” words, etc.
AmVet
February 15th, 2009
8:00 pm
The greatest conservative movies???
As laughable, I’m sure, as a list of the greatest conservative rock songs!
The cons haven’t had any significant movies, music or culture of their own since the 1940s…
getalife
February 15th, 2009
8:08 pm
No Country For Old Men
Godfather 1 and 2.
Pulp Fiction
Goodfellas
The Silence of the lambs.
Apocalypse Now
American Beauty
Taxi Driver
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest
@@
February 15th, 2009
8:11 pm
jay, I was kinda wonderin’ if you’d like to serve as critic to this movie playing out in the mind of an Obama supporter. It got a favorable review in the NYT.
“I dreamed I was an Obama girl. I had a chance to be in the same room with him for the first time. There were dark velvet chairs and he was standing there with all this dark and mist around him. His lips so purple and sensuous as if to be otherworldly,” she wrote to me. “I moved gently toward him and then I said the wrong thing. Obama tamped it down like some vapor that didn’t register. He wasn’t even flattered.”
Huh….why not?
Could it be he’s just not that into boiled rabbit? Which reminds me
has Barack conceded to a family dog yet? I can just see it now…..he returns from his Valentine’s Day rendezvous with Michelle — pup in tow.
Awwwhhhhhh
Obamaniacs eat that kinda stuff up!
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
8:12 pm
>em<NYT has been doing some good graphics/commentary combos lately like the nice one Taxpayer linked. Charles M. Blow does a lot of them.
They have an interactive IT department now composed of about 12-15 people (I don’t know if it includes their Blogrunner site that reminds me a little of Techmeme or Digg.
<a href=”http://nymag.com/news/features/all-new/53344/”The New Journalism: Goosing the Gray Lady”
Eaton
February 15th, 2009
8:14 pm
Obviously, The Lives of Others is a conservative movie because it is anti-communist and anti-socialist. Since, according to conservatives, all liberals are both, it must be a great conservative movie.
Ultimately, I’m not sure we were watching the same film. I saw a brilliant movie about the dangers of group-think and unswerving loyalty to the government, and apparently Buckley saw…an anti-liberal movie. In Forrest Gump, I saw a movie that suggested that no matter who you are, you matter…and in Groundhog’s Day I saw a movie that said that your personal ego is meaningless…that everything is connected, and failure to recognize that damns you to a hell of your own making.
This quote: “for the conservative, the moral of (Groundhog) is that redemption and meaning are derived not from indulging your ‘authentic’ instincts and drives, but from striving to live up to external and timeless ideals” is more of an indictment of post-modernism than liberalism…but I doubt most self-proclaim conservatives even know what that is.
Well…I guess people will see what they want to see.
RW-(the original)
February 15th, 2009
8:19 pm
OFF TOPIC
Congrats to Matt Kenseth for “winning” the Daytona 380.
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
8:20 pm
I don’t think some of the conventions in My First Site will publish Taxpayer (at least the b’s for bold wouldn’t for me. Using “Strong” in brackets and caps will.
I don’t know what flew my last link into the ground.
The New Journalism: Goosing the Gray Lady
Georgian in Texas
February 15th, 2009
8:34 pm
I suppose what bothers me the most about this list of films is the obvious attempt to co-opt everything positive for conservatives, and to suggest that the chaff belongs to liberals. Love of country, love of truth and justice, love of freedom, even the idea of Faith – based on the comments from the link, these things are solely the province of the Conservative. Liberals need not apply.
Should we wonder why partisanship has risen to its current extreme levels? If people actually buy into this, it’s certainly no wonder that conservatives find it so easy to vilify liberals. Honestly, it makes me sad. I don’t believe that my conservative friends are the source of all evil, but based on comments here, it would certainly seem that many conservatives view people who have different political leanings as precisely that.
What a sad world we live in.
TnGelding
February 15th, 2009
8:48 pm
Bucking the trend:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami-dade/story/904842.html
Should make a conservatives day.
Eleanor Rigby
February 15th, 2009
8:54 pm
Forrest Gump shows that if you believe in yourself and just keep trying, even an idiot can be a success. Know any conservatives like that?
Rightwinger
February 15th, 2009
9:08 pm
Sorry, Tn…but upstanding Conservatives don’t give bonuses to line workers. Only those who are already wealthy are deserving, and those who don’t make lots of money are obviously substandard because of their lack of wealth. This man is obviously a Socialist or Communist. I can only imagine that this man has been brainwashed…how can he dilute his standing by giving money to scum who are incapable of making their own money?
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
9:10 pm
My idea of a quintissential conservative movie is W because it captures what happens when a child is put in the oval office with an inert rubber stamp Sec State like Condi and the havoc it wreaks on a nation with a dysfunctional facilitating press that is indifferent. It conveys the message that “You Get the Democracy You Deserve” with the help of a Supreme Court that fixes an election.
AJC/DNC Management
February 15th, 2009
9:21 pm
This sounds like a pretty good Conservative movie-
“They’ve seen too many of their colleagues lose grant funding when they haven’t gone along with the so-called political consensus that we’re in a human-caused global warming,” Schmitt said.
Schmitt resigned after the group blamed global warming on human activity. In his resignation letter, the 74-year-old geologist argued that the “global warming scare is being used as a political tool to increase government control over American lives, incomes and decision making.”-BostonHerald
We can call it “Night of the Living Dunces.”
Starring a pinko zombie near you.
Lol at conservatives
February 15th, 2009
9:29 pm
Which part of “the academic consensus” do y’all have a problem with? The vast majority of the academic world agrees that global warming is largely the result of human activity, yet…one man, who apparently isn’t even a practicing academic, disagrees, and all of a sudden he’s your savior?
What makes me laugh at you is that you ignore consensus on everything, disregarding the peer-reviewed process, yet embrace a tiny fringe group which supports your ideology. Please, tell me…in which journals has this person had articles published? Where can we find his research? What hypotheses has he presented? None? Really? You mean…all he’s done is said that people who believe in Global Warming are wrong? Really?
Talk about dunces.
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
9:30 pm
I call this quack’s resignation progress.
AJC/DNC Management
February 15th, 2009
9:42 pm
Yeah, the only problem geniuses, it’s getting…………….colder.
According to the University of Illinois’ Arctic Climate Research Center, global sea ice levels now equal those of 1979.-Urinal
duh
rcs
February 15th, 2009
9:45 pm
lol, have you read George Will’s column in today’s AJC?
AJC/DNC Management
February 15th, 2009
9:47 pm
Funny thing is, dunces, the Arctic is a flyspeck compared to the other side of the world.
Most researchers are agreed that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet has been retreating over the last 10,000 years, but the new findings, published in the journal Science, could be evidence that that this trend is about to be reversed. -BBC
10,000 years, hmmmmmmm.
geez, what a bunch of bozos.
Swami Dave
February 15th, 2009
9:47 pm
I would argue that “GroundHog Day” had some conservative messages. In that case, I would look at Murray’s experience of repeating his “mistakes” until he learned from them as more indicative of the liberal condition. Specifically, the liberal tendency to continue supporting / defending their philosophical beliefs in the face of repeated history that collectivism ever does anything more than spread misery and unproductivity where it is tried.
I would add “The Postman” to the list as well. Kevin Costner played the main character who, during the entire film, was never named. Throughout the story, he took actions that sought resolution to his own needs, but ended up touching and influencing the lives of all of those around him. In the end, it was through his own actions that he changed the lives of everyone else. As his love interest said to him in one of the film’s most dramatic moments, he “gave out hope like it was candy in his pocket” and opened a world of opportunity to others – not by what he did for them, but in motivating them to act on their own behalf.
-Swami Dave
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
9:56 pm
There are always quack opinions out there. The AJC for years has taken advertising money for nutso quack therapeutic modalities that have no proven efficacy. They’d slaughter them in their news articles, but they don’t say a word about them because they are advertisers unless and until they kill somebody (and most of the time they are worthless remedies with no clinical efficacy.
Wingnuts as a rule hate science. This jelled in the Bush administration and the reversal of the goofy Executive Orders that were anti-science and the deal 79 year old Arlen Specter swung to fund long neglected NIH research are but two examples.
The Wingnuts are so freaked that their Bush Cheney bumper stickered SUVs contribute to global warming that they go postal and reach for any nut who says what makes them feel good, rather than significant research that prooves a point. Their candidate for VP was sure that Intelligent Design rather than evolution was “scientific.” She knocked the fruit fly, which in 2009 is still basic to the infrastructure of research for the trisomy 21 baby she chose to bring into the world.
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
10:07 pm
Wow, Andy my first grade teacher and the google toolbar have proved spelled with one “o”.
GodHatesTrash
February 15th, 2009
10:13 pm
Deliverance
rcs
February 15th, 2009
10:21 pm
Chad, I’m curious how all the “shovel ready” projects fit into the climate alarmnist’s science. What to do with all the heavy machinery, steel plants, concrete, asphalt, the tractor trailers to transport all the raw materials, etc, etc.? Won’t rebuilding the country’s infrastructure dump tons on emissions into the atmosphere? Do these get a pass? Or is it only the conservative’s who drive SUV’s that you have a problem with?
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
10:31 pm
The idea is to make the shovel ready projects clean. There are provisions in the stim package for environmental projects as well. Much of it was cut by your thugs.
I have a problem with any drivers of SUVs and so do you. They are stupid trucks with stupid milage basically held down by idiot ideas like Dingell and Levin both Dems. It’s called CAFE.
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
10:33 pm
I should have added though that in this city and every city a lot more wingnuts drive SUVs and fuel inefficient trucks they don’t need–the ratio is high.
Even the makers of Prius run large ad campaigns for their monster gas guzzling trucks.
Europe is getting twice the milage per gallon as we are out of nearly every vehicle they make.
rcs
February 15th, 2009
10:40 pm
There’s no time to make the shovel ready projects green. The purpose is to get them started asap to get people back to work.
for the record, I have a nissan altima, not a SUV.
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
10:41 pm
Federal Report: Warming = More Harmful Climate Extremes
The national weather service is full of data as is every reputible academic environmental lab.
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
10:49 pm
The shovel ready projects in the stim package are a tiny fraction of what is causing the global warming crisis actually much less than .00000001% to be specific.
We know you lost big on Nov. 5 and we know you’re steamed.
When Graham and McLoser and Boener singled out line itmes in the stim package they zeroed in on less than 1% of the package but never prefaced their comments with that context of course. They believe all Americans are as dumb as their base.
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
10:50 pm
Whoopsie! Wouldn’t want to spell John Boehner – 8th District of Ohio incorrectly–he’s one of my faves.
gttim
February 15th, 2009
10:55 pm
Braveheart? Conservatives want the status quo, no changes by definition. Braveheart is about overthrowing the government. It is about change. Oh wait, this is a National Review article. They never get anything right. Never mind.
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
11:11 pm
I’d say Clint Eastwood’s demeanor in the first part of Gran Torino depicts the average Conservative.
Swami Dave
February 15th, 2009
11:36 pm
gttm:
I would pose to you that Braveheart was indeed a rather conservative movie. The lead character was a driven, principled individual seeking freedom for himself and his fellow countrymen. Unlike the other “leaders” by birth or their own self-appointed assumption of right who spent much of their time bartering the efforts and productivity of others into power and influence for themeselves. The quintissential “liberal” character in the movie was the former Robert The Bruce, a man whose care for his own people was overshadowed by actions intended to acquire power. Likewise, the message was rather clear that a) there are things for which fighting, killing, and dying are worth and b) there is no peace or value to be had negotiating with murderous enemies.
-Swami Dave
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
11:47 pm
You get bupkis, diddly
diddly-squat
peanuts
squat
zilch
gttim
February 15th, 2009
11:54 pm
Braveheart was a rebel, who was against the government, who wanted change. Conservatives always fight change- they wanted to keep slavery, they wanted to keep segregation, they wanted to keep marriages restricted by race, they wanted to keep women out of the workforce, they wanted to keep women earning less than men, they want to keep a woman from having reproductive freedom, they want to keep old religious mores of sex, recreation, reading material and everything else. They want government to become America’s nanny by dictating what we can watch, read, look at, ingest and who we can sleep with- other than themselves in airport bathrooms. They want government and corporate leaders to maintain their power and not pass it to other people in society. Conservative preach morals and character, but do not actually have any. Conservative politicians are acting like Robert the Bruce today by fighting action on today’s current economic issues, even though it is supported by the people and will help them, because they want to try and hold political power for themselves.
Let me know when you enter reality.
Chad Harris
February 16th, 2009
12:04 am
I think I entered reality with Hugh’s List or is it Hugh’s List or will any of this work.
Chad Harris
February 16th, 2009
12:06 am
Well at least you can mix bold and link here but it ain’t conventional html it’s AJC html whatever that is.
Chad Harris
February 16th, 2009
12:08 am
I guess by driven principled individuals you mean Bush, Cheney, Addington, Yoo, the people who shreded the constitution and the 200 plus Bush administration officials who used Rule 11 to snitch on their homies and are in or on their way to prison. Bu also goshdarnit you must mean Blackwater or LOL their comical new named Xe pronunced zzzzzzzeeeeee!!
TnGelding
February 16th, 2009
2:51 am
Chad Harris
February 15th, 2009
10:31 pm
That was probably the worst lasting thing that came out of the Clinton administration. Carol Browner made the ruling at EPA, and she’s back in with Obama in some position (Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change).
TnGelding
February 16th, 2009
3:03 am
gttim
February 15th, 2009
11:54 pm
Rather harsh, but more true than not.
Do they not realize the deep trouble we’re in or how little $787 billion is in a $14 trillion economy? And it isn’t going to be spent in one year.
A conversation with David Faber about CNBC’s original primetime documentary, “House of Cards”:
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/10076
TnGelding
February 16th, 2009
3:17 am
House of Cards:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/28892719
AJC/DNC Management
February 16th, 2009
5:46 am
BUSY, BUSY On today’s Presidents Day holiday, President Barack Obama can look back on an eventful first month in office. Among the highlights-Urinal/kult of oblahma
Where for art thou Oblahmi?
WHAT’S THE RUSH? ‘URGENT’ STIMULUS ON HOLD FOR OBAMA’S WEEKEND OFF…
Busy, busy…………..with the propaganda at the AJC.
GodHatesTrash
February 16th, 2009
5:48 am
If you enjoyed Passion of the Christ, I would suggest any of the Saw movies, or the cult classic Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
The same genre.
GodHatesTrash
February 16th, 2009
6:45 am
I guess you could say Passion of the Christ is a cult classic, too.
AJC/DNC Management
February 16th, 2009
6:45 am
Behind the gauzy, post-partisan halo the establishment media has painted around the cover-boy visage of Barack Obama lies one of the most cynically calculating pols in living memory. He promises to abide by campaign spending limits — except when he won’t. He won’t hire lobbyists — unless he makes a dozen exceptions to the rule. He’ll run a transparent government, posting everything on the web — except when it is inconvenient. He’ll say he’s bipartisan — except when it comes time to actually deal with real substance. And he can no more disown his pastor than he can disown his white grandmother — unless the pastor embarrasses him again, of course.-AmSpec
Just call him a liar for short.
ew
Dave R
February 16th, 2009
6:48 am
The Fountainhead starring Gary Cooper and Patricia Neal. It’s in black and white (which means for some folks it doesn’t exist), but it personifies the value of the individual.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountainhead
Tony Smith
February 16th, 2009
7:02 am
Why is Bookman writing a column about conservative movies? I’ve read his columns. He doesn’t have a clue how conservatives think. Of course he doesn’t have a clue about almost everything he writes about.
Evan Mathews
February 16th, 2009
7:11 am
I would think that “Wall Street” would be in this list with the conservatives cheering for Gecko.
Bubba
February 16th, 2009
7:12 am
Jay, perhaps you are unfamiliar with research showing that conservatives give far more to charity than liberals. Maybe you should read more.
Bill
February 16th, 2009
7:22 am
Those are only conservative movies if you accept the notion that conservatives have a monopoly on moral behavior.
For a real conservative movie, watch “Birth of a Nation”.
Goober
February 16th, 2009
8:00 am
Gump didn’t have a job and didn’t earn what he got. That should make it easy to label him.
John otto
February 16th, 2009
8:19 am
Once again an attempt to portray conservatives with having a selfish mindset.
Aren’t we the ones paying most of the taxes then additionally donating to churches – not only time but money. Liberals on the other hand say they care, then make laws that take more money from conservative and give it to whatever cause furthers their agenda.
Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
February 16th, 2009
8:50 am
The “Dark Knight, is, without a doubt, the greatest conservative movie. It is an allegory for President Bush’s righteous epic struggle with the twin evils of terrorism and the (no offense, Jay) liberal media.
lovelyliz
February 16th, 2009
8:57 am
How about “All The President’s Men” a great movie about the abusive power of the government?
DB, Gwinnettian
February 16th, 2009
9:01 am
I’m so glad Red Dawn is on the list.
From its tragically foolish belief in a Red Menace that had long ceased to actually exist when the movie was released, to its hilarious depiction of red-blooded gunowners gettin’ rounded up on account of them having registered their weapons–we knew it was a Commie plot!–to its devotion to an Aryan ideal (ok, there was the one noble African-American high school teacher, but he gets blown away within a minute of his appearance), it’s just perfect.
Vaya con dios, pantloados de doughy de Review National!
====
And to John otto and Bubba, who choose to harp on the notion that conservatives allegedly contribute more to charity than do liberals–if you want to go on pretending that contributing to one’s own church home is some great act of selflessness, feel free. And I’ll go on chuckling at this talking point.
gttim
February 16th, 2009
9:03 am
I am glad to see Red Dawn on the list. TBogg and others have been making fun of conservative’s fascination with that movie for many, many years. Mostly of how they fantasize about themselves saving ‘Murica from a communist invasion.
TnGelding
February 16th, 2009
9:03 am
AJC/DNC Management
February 16th, 2009
6:45 am
And a damn good one at that!
TnGelding
February 16th, 2009
9:08 am
DB, Gwinnettian
February 16th, 2009
9:01 am
Redistributing the wealth to the church pastor. Although most churches do a lot of good charity work and should be commended.
DB, Gwinnettian
February 16th, 2009
9:11 am
“Although most churches do a lot of good charity work and should be commended.”
I’m not arguing, as some do, that church offerings shouldn’t be tax-deductable. I’d just prefer for conservatives to get off their high horses and claim, as they’re fond of doing, that they’re somehow morally superior on account of their percentage of income going to charity. They don’t get to do that when such a large share of that money directly benefits themselves–their churches provide (typically) childcare, retreat opportunities, and such.
that’s fine. But don’t act like it’s selfless.
Bubba
February 16th, 2009
9:13 am
Liberals obviously care more than conservatives because they keep telling us they do. Of course, like all liberal arguments, there are no facts to back it up. It’s all about feelings. Here are some facts:
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2682730
DB, Gwinnettian
February 16th, 2009
9:35 am
Bubba, John Stossel needs to be force-fed Rush Limbaugh’s liposuctioned fat.
And you’re ignoring my point about how contributions to one’s church home are hardly a selfless act of charity. Why is that?
DB, Gwinnettian
February 16th, 2009
9:39 am
This might be a fun time to point out that the ajc/dnc troll was lecturing me the other day about how I allowed pundits to do my thinking for me.
If that seems like longer-ago than it really was, perhaps it’s because ajc/dnc has posted about twenty gazillion copy/pastes from the American Spectator since telling me he didn’t need no pundits tellin’ him how to think.
gots to run. Later, all.
SaveOurRepublic
February 16th, 2009
9:49 am
It’s hard to definitively label certain movies “conservative”. All in all, I’d say many of the Duke’s films were such…especially uber-hawk “The Green Berets”.
Bill @ 7:22 am – Interesting analogy to D. W. Griffith’s classic “The Birth of a Nation”. When it was released (1915), I’d definitely say it was “conservative”. Now (politically), I’d say it would be considered more of a White Nationalist film.
Jason
February 16th, 2009
10:26 am
“…unable to free himself from the selfish mindset that makes him unpopular with others, until finally, after repeated rejection, he decides he has to change and actually tries to help people. Why would conservatives relate to that, I wonder?”
Right…because conservatives are against the concept of helping people. Believe it or not, conservatives like the concept of helping people. We love it in fact. However, we believe philosophically that government is clumsy at most of the things it undertakes to do. So we disagree over how far the government should intrude in arenas you might characterize as “helping people,” because “helping people” clumsily often has the opposite effect. Most conservatives are not the white, angry misanthropes your straw-man argument presumes. We simply disagree with you over the role government should play in our everyday lives.
Raisenette
February 16th, 2009
11:25 am
Goober! Where have you been? You’re such a Goober. Don’t be a stranger. You always have something amusing to say. Which reminds me, the quote of the day is “Don’t take yourself so seriously, nobody else does.” I forgot who said that. Oh well, I better get back to work. The boss is coming.
CommunistAJC
February 16th, 2009
12:20 pm
THE DARK KNIGHT!
Without a doubt this fantastic blockbuster is a great conservative movie. Warrantless wiretapping, beating up criminals, whom libs love to protect, large corporations, etc. I’d love to see Batman punch out people like Al Gore, Keith Olberqueer and many other pansy libs.
CommunistAJC
February 16th, 2009
12:22 pm
STAR WARS!
Also a very conservative type of movie. Rebels fighting against an oppressive communist style of government run by evil dictators. You have a free trade rebel, Han Solo, who has to smuggle goods to and from other star systems and at the same time you have a Princess who fights for a free republic. Woo Hoo can’t get any better.
DB, Gwinnettian
February 16th, 2009
12:29 pm
“Keith Olberqueer”
Ok, fess up, c’ajc. You’re what, twelve years old?
CommunistAJC
February 16th, 2009
12:32 pm
DB, Gwinnettian,
oh, did I hurt your feelings by insulting your dad?
AmVet
February 16th, 2009
6:38 pm
The liberal media was never that powerful, and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures.
Bubba
February 16th, 2009
7:14 pm
Sorry to keep you waiting, DB, but I’m one of those people who has a job who’s going to pay for Obama’s grand spending plans. So I can’t spend all day on the Internet. Of course there’s a quite simple answer to your question. Contributions to one’s church are most certainly a selfless act of charity. By definition, if you contribute to something, with no expectation of getting anything in return, and in hopes that the money will be used to help others, that is a selfless act of charity. Now you, DB, can argue that my donations would be better spent on some other charitable endeavor, and you might even be right. But it doesn’t change the motivation of donation without expectation of benefit in return. Capisce?