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Fool

July 11th, 2009
4:13 pm

Thank you for such a great, respectful piece about the show. I was afraid that all the media outlets who were so interested in what happened back in April wouldn’t be interested in following through to come back and cover the positive part of the story. It is very much appreciated.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 12th, 2009
12:58 pm

Aww, thanks. It was great to see the show going up, and always interesting to see a dress rehearsal. Hope it’s going well this weekend!

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[...] Consider the difference — here’s the calendar entry, here’s the blog post. [...]

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[...] “I Have a Dream” exhibition had already been in New York, Michigan and Tennessee when it arrived in Atlanta a few months ago. [...]

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[...] Just got a (very vague) press release from The Coca-Cola Company explaining what they intend to do with all those thousands of Atlanta Braves jerseys, bats and mitts that went into the old 42-foot Coke bottle they retired after 12 years of fireworks displays over Turner Field. (Here are photos of both bottles.) [...]

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One More

July 13th, 2009
8:27 pm

Jamie G.

July 13th, 2009
8:30 pm

Thanks, One More!

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KnightInATL

July 14th, 2009
4:10 am

The Coke memorabilia giveaway on Thursday…the Maddux number retirement ceremony on Friday. And hopefully a 4 game sweep of the Mets culminating on Sunday.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 14th, 2009
10:59 am

I see your weekend plans are set, KnightInATL. :)

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Patrick

July 15th, 2009
8:32 am

I was at a Hot Topic last night and overheard the two clerks talking about the movie. One of them had admitted to not having read any of the books, and only watched the movies. I chided him and told him he needed to get all the books, sit down, and read them. There are a lot of things in the books that were left out of the movies, some that were minor and didn’t really affect the story when left out, and others that were cruicial to the story. For example, in the fifth book (”Order of the Phoenix”) Harry and his friends encounter all sorts of obstacles before getting to the room with all the prophecies, and Harry retrieves the prophecy. It also left out some of the cruelty that Umbridge inflicted upon the students, especially Harry, like when she injured Hedwig’s wing. I forget what she did in the book, but I remember one time yelling “you *****!” at the book. When a book can get a reaction like that from the reader, you know it’s good.

I hope too much wasn’t left out in this movie. I really couldn’t see anything that could be left out, but some things could have been changed around a bit.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 15th, 2009
12:57 pm

I’m with you, Patrick, on the books. I read and enjoyed all of them, but haven’t been nearly so dedicated to the movies. They have their moments — love Quidditch on a big screen — but I didn’t even see “Half-Blood Prince” last night. (Too many photos to file, too many blog posts to write…) For those that just can’t sit still through a book, though, seems like they’re a solid entry into a cultural phenom.

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[...] here’s an AJC story from a reporter who went last night to the show. She’s got photos from the [...]

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[...] wrote about the crowds — who was there, why they came and what costumes they wore — in an earlier blog post, but words might not do it [...]

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Kar

July 15th, 2009
2:24 pm

Of course the movie butchered the book, I’m not about to sit through six hours of Snape’s detention, Moanin’ Myrtle’s well, moaning over Draco Dobby’s moodiness or the non-lovefest between Molly and LeFleur.

That said, they did a decent job with the bones of the book and the added scenes. The romance scenes were too slow, a hint really would’ve been enough in most cases although the audience around me hooted and hollared over anything.

I have a reccomendation though, while you may love your light-up wand please do not wave it in the air during the movie. Save it for the lines waiting outside the theater.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 15th, 2009
4:25 pm

Jeez, Kar, it’s not the magical version of waving a lighter or cell phone at a concert? ;)

You make a good point: the Harry Potter movies have taken quite long enough to come out without turning each book into a three-movie series.

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woodie

July 15th, 2009
4:31 pm

I read all the books and saw the movies and I lost interest. So I’ll wait till it comes out on TV.

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Massai

July 15th, 2009
5:42 pm

AJC…i hope you keep this daily segment: “What to Do on (weekdays)”…this tool is so helpful to me because it gives me a glimpse of the life and happenings of ATL on each given day. it also helps for when family are in town and this is a simple reference to things to do while they are visiting ATL. Thanks again for this segment.

Massai (Atlanta)

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[...] sells movie tickets, two for $15.99, for Regal and AMC theaters. I was thinking of seeing Harry Potter, but I, for one, am not a big fan of spending big bucks for cinema blockbusters. I called a few [...]

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 15th, 2009
11:46 pm

Great! Glad it helps! I’ll keep it up in this blog on weekdays, and on weekends, too. If you’ve ever got ideas or recommendations, feel free to share them, too, by commenting here, e-mailing me at jgumbrecht@ajc.com or shooting me a message on Twitter at http://twitter.com/insideaccess. Thanks!

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john

July 16th, 2009
9:36 am

Good. Art Sucks. Close it down. Waste of space. I can draw pictures with crayons and it is just as good as these “artist” that draw pictures as well.

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Daniela

July 16th, 2009
9:39 am

LOL @ john! That was hilarious and I agree with you for the most part! :)

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Bushwacker

July 16th, 2009
9:45 am

Art, if it has to be subsidized thru donations or the govt and they can’t make it on their own thru selling their “art”, then obviously not enough people care about it and its time to get a real job!!

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Justin

July 16th, 2009
9:46 am

Amazing place. Amazing memories. EyeDrum needs to persevere.

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wxwax

July 16th, 2009
9:51 am

Cultural institutions like these, no matter how small, enrich our community. They make Atlanta a better place.

I’m sorry to hear they’re in trouble. I hope they have a forgiving landlord, unlikely as that may be.

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the Captain

July 16th, 2009
9:54 am

Even thought I never really went to eyedrum, it’s sad to see the ignorance of the south shining here in these comments. Way to stereotype yourselves guys as a bunch of culturally ignorant, backwoods cretins.

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demonspeed1102

July 16th, 2009
9:57 am

I would like to know what “real job” John and Bushwacker have?

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john

July 16th, 2009
10:00 am

To “the Captain”, let me draw you a picture with a person playing a violin with tears in his eyes about the sad news. You’ll just have to image the sound.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 16th, 2009
10:04 am

I think the variety of perspectives on art are revealing themselves in this thread, John and Bushwacker. Of course there are those who look at it as a business on which to make money, but for many others, it’s to learn, educate or entertain, to affect the space or people in the areas where we live or, in the case of an arts space, a way to connect with the community. Eyedrum, for its part, is a volunteer operation.

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woodie

July 16th, 2009
10:07 am

A decline is civilization is precipitated by a decline in the creative arts. It’s creativity that keeps this economy going to begin with. Take that away and you have a bleak horizon.

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Been There

July 16th, 2009
10:11 am

How about trying this…go through the place and start charging the “artists” that are living there some rent? Yeah, they are there…been there and seen them and walked in on them.

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Mechanicsville

July 16th, 2009
10:14 am

Move Eyedrum to a cheaper location like Mechanicsville and be a part of a neighborhood’s revival.

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Lucas

July 16th, 2009
10:16 am

Eyedrum is a great space, but it’s way too big. Rent on Memorial Drive / Cabbagetown has got to be going through the roof with all of the recent improvements. They should move out to the next cool (and cheap) district.

Haters are proof you’re famous. Keep it going, Eyedrum.

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Lucas

July 16th, 2009
10:17 am

I second Mechanicsville.

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mowse

July 16th, 2009
10:19 am

wow, haters never cease.

John, yes, image the sound. Why would you even read an article about something that you have nothing positive to add (and make incredibly retarded grammatical errors in the midst of your hating)….you’re a genius, and your energy is so well spent.

i’m an artist, have a real job (so that i can afford to pursue creative endeavors), and i love art.

….couldn’t keep it to myself, i s’pose.

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Dos Prompt

July 16th, 2009
10:22 am

You see, John is a closet homosexual who thinks if he speaks out against culture, free expression and creative thoughts, no one will know he is gay…….BUSTED.

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The Boykin

July 16th, 2009
10:52 am

So if someone thinks the art there is mostly not very good, childish, and not worth paying to see they are a closet homosexual? Maybe John is just a blue collar open homosexual. Like you need to be into art to be into man on man loving. I like the place for a show but the art there is not very marketable. Sometimes things have to close because people do not care enough to fork over money to keep it open. The high stays in bussiness because people want to go there and see the art. Eyedrum had a great spot there for awhile but the area is being built up and the land is worth money now.

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ObamasGotBling

July 16th, 2009
11:10 am

Just call Washington and ask for taxpayer cash to bail out this artsy organization! They’ve got plenty of coin from taxpayers to do what they need! It’s just a phone call away—taxpayer money: it just keeps on giving!!!!

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Edgewood Adam

July 16th, 2009
11:13 am

What a shame. The eyedrum is more than just a place to see art. They host great bands and have always been a point of pride for residents such as myself in the area. A friend of mine just opened and art gallery in Savannah. There is kind of a twist to it though. The upstairs is a tattoo parlor while the downstairs is a gallery. Its a great idea. This way money is always coming in. And lastly, pay no attention to the “Johns” of the world. He is bound to a life of suburban nothingness with either a horrible construction job or an entry level loan officer with a generic degree in date rape er, i mean business from UGA.

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BPJ

July 16th, 2009
11:20 am

Markets are wonderful things, great at setting the price of widgets and spreading prosperity. But market forces are inadequate to provide some of the things which make life enjoyable, including museums, symphony orchestras, opera, ballet, and much theatre (beyond a narrow band of work, such as big musicals and a few light comedies). It’s not just small nonprofits like Eyedrum which depend, in part, on contributions. The Metropolitan Museum of Art, generally considered one of the 2 or 3 finest on the planet, doesn’t stay open due to ticket sales – in fact, the entrance fee is voluntary, although most choose to pay it. The bulk of their budget comes from donors. The finest performing arts organization in the South, the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra, does better than most at selling tickets, but still at least half their budget is donations – which help keep the ticket prices lower than they would otherwise happen to be.

Nonprofit arts organizations go through an application process to the IRS to qualify for tax-exempt status (I’ve helped several through this process), making their donors’ gifts deductible against their taxes. Most people understand this, but there are always a few people who haven’t thought this through. For them, the Market is God, the great god Market will provide all we need, and there’s no need to think beyond that article of faith.

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abc

July 16th, 2009
11:27 am

“Commercial Viability of Art” is almost a contradiction in terms.

Mainstream cultures will embrace art that represents their own perspectives, or that they can relate to enough to affect their perspectives, and incorporate them. Perspectives that represent alternative cultures, communities, lifestyles, etc. are less likely to be embraced by the larger numbers of people. That doesn’t make them irrelevant; it just makes them unpopular. They don’t enlighten, nor broaden, nor add, subtract or edit; they present something foreign, difficult to interpret or assimilate. That translates into lack of value for the patron.

If one chooses to be unpopular in order to stay true to their muse(s), then the associated lack of public support and funding goes with the gig. There’s not much room to complain. Presenting art that represents one’s muse in such a way that maximum numbers can relate to it is the optimal challenge to any artist, regardless of medium or genre.

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marcus

July 16th, 2009
11:37 am

some of these comments are straight from the movie, “deliverance”. what a bunch of hicks. maybe a smaller space will help preserve the whole idea of eyedrum. peter street has available space and its opened up a whole new approach to the presentation of up and coming artist and craftsmen. these are trying times for everyone and benefactors are not clamouring to support the arts like they once were. i hope these artist find a viable location and to those naysayers; “here piggy, piggy…”

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OneChris

July 16th, 2009
11:51 am

Never heard of them? Who the heck are they ??? Sounds like a group with good intent but can’t maybe they seek funds like others do and have a car wash, auction, beg on the side of the road? Really I can only say they must not have a great Board to be in this fix.

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Benton

July 16th, 2009
12:02 pm

I’ve lived in Atlanta since 1985, and it seems that the ugly attitudes exhibited by folks like John are becoming more the norm than the exception. It’s too bad. Atlanta used to be a great town, ready to embrace new forms of art and full of interesting characters and places. It now seems to be becoming just a big city full of yahoos who pride themselves on their own ignorance and intolerance. That’s nothing to be proud of, but I’m sure John, Bushwacker and the whole gang will read it as high praise.

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gttim

July 16th, 2009
12:12 pm

I’ve been to Eyedrum a few times years ago. A great space with some nice shows. I hope the manage. Perhaps a less expensive place might be an idea. Remember, it is not really the space, but what is put in it that makes it.

And let me thank John and company. You never disappoint! You lift people up- if only by making them happy they are not like you!

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BPJ

July 16th, 2009
12:24 pm

Benton, don’t believe it. In my experience, Atlantans are more educated, sophisticated, and open to new forms of art than ever. We have more, and better art collectors than ever. Theatre companies that didn’t exist 25 years ago are now nationally respected, with loyal audiences. Robert Spano is making Atlanta one of the leading centers for contemporary classical music – and selling tickets.

The internet lets a few loudmouth soreheads set the tone – if we let them. So don’t let them.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 16th, 2009
12:29 pm

You’re right, BPJ — the best way to keep the conversation honest and productive is for the commenters to move it in that direction. Not all comments will be positive, nor should they be, but I hope the tone of these conversations, at least, will be thoughtful and helpful.

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CommonSenseMarketing

July 16th, 2009
12:34 pm

“Eyedrum”? With a great name like that, it’s difficult to understand why they are failing.

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atlnative

July 16th, 2009
12:44 pm

I went to eyedrum a couple of times. In theory, a great place for art and music; in practice, it was just a bunch of GSU hipster-than-thou kids sitting around drinking PBR, making noise on an old drum set and some tin cans. Not surprised that this urban collective wasn’t able to pay the bills. But fine if that’s what you’re looking for I guess. And lay off the rednecks, dangit, we wuz here first.

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Ugh

July 16th, 2009
1:05 pm

Oh yeah, someone (Edgewood Adam) has to throw in the old go back to the suburb comment. Not to defend John or anything….since he never said he lived in the burbs… but the art scene is thriving in Alpharetta so bite me. Matilda’s anyone? That place is PACKED every weekend.
You ITP people are so cool bashing the burbs and all. Why don’t you try going outside your comfort zone? It’s not all Chili’s and Fridays up here.

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Economix

July 16th, 2009
1:30 pm

Why should taxes fund private entertainment, including arts or sports? People should pay for their own entertainment—very simple.

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abc

July 16th, 2009
1:35 pm

Even the Fox can’t survive on ticket sales alone, even though they have among the top, if not the top ticket sales in historic venues in the nation. The Fox relies upon private donations and benefactors.

Private support is appropriate for arts groups such as Eyedrum. Certainly, taxes should never support them. Inability to attract private funding, designed as a tax write-off for the donors, indicates clearly that either the organization isn’t sufficiently managed, or that their output isn’t of sufficient value.

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Rachel Ray

July 16th, 2009
2:27 pm

A martini would taste great right about now.

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Edgewood Adam

July 16th, 2009
2:35 pm

To Ugh,

I am from Alpharetta. Yes it is.

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Edgewood Adam

July 16th, 2009
2:37 pm

Originally that is.

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mowse

July 16th, 2009
3:28 pm

earball

July 16th, 2009
4:27 pm

what a person intends to realize and actually does realize is like a mathmatical correlation between the unexpressed but intended and the unintentionally expressed.

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econ101

July 16th, 2009
4:41 pm

Atlanta is a city dependent on tax revenues derrived from convention business and tourism. The theory behind public finance for the arts is that the arts contribute to the financial welfare of the city by making it a more attractive cultural destination for tourists and conventions, and for corporations looking to relocate.
The theory simply put is that the tax revenues gained will exceed the taxpayer money spent, or not collected from non profits.
Public art often has the greatest cultural impact, but fails to meet the Bushwacker test for economic viability.
Atlanta is in he midst of a full blown arts crisis. Major galleries and performing arts organizations are disappearing, making Atlanta a less attractive cultural destination.
Many private donors are tapped out because of the economy and guys like Madoff.
Yes we have the world of Coke, the Aquarium and a bunch of strip clubs. But the longterm picture is that cities like Miami and even Nashville will be kicking our butts soon because they are commiting to culture.

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[...] 11-year-old community arts organization’s financial trouble quickly picked up headlines on blogs and discussions on listservs. It’s not debt that finally spiraled out of control, Eyedrum [...]

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Robbie

July 16th, 2009
5:17 pm

Hey “Art, if it has to be subsidized thru donations or the govt and they can’t make it on their own thru selling their “art”, then obviously not enough people care about it and its time to get a real job!!”

I’m with you, I’d much rather my shoes get made by slave labor. Let the market decide everything!

I feel the same way about highways! All road should be toll roads.

And little kids that can’t afford to build their own swimming pools? Well screw them! I’m not paying for them to go swimming.

The the market drove everything, we wouldn’t have the woodruff arts center, the second largest arts center in north america. Nor would you have public parks, swimming pools, stone mountain or state parks.

Charlotte, NC decided to become the second largest banking capitol of the US. As soon as they did that, they decided to invest heavily in arts and culture to draw industry and it completely worked. As Atlanta arts funding and its major and minor institutions start dying it will be fun to hear you complain then about why you don’t have a job and why industry is moving elsewhere.

Though Charlotte, Denver and other growing cities also managed to get their act together on mass transit.

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abc

July 16th, 2009
5:34 pm

Woodruff isn’t supported by taxes. They’re supported by private and corporate donations, some bond issues. Stone Mountain was originally developed as a private enterprise, not public works. Comparing physical infrastructure like roads, parks and pools to arts funding is just plain stupid. You don’t really think that’s a very valid argument, do you? Really?

For the relatively small amount of funding that Eyedrum needs, go get some corporate sponsorship. There’s a political buzz about upcoming limits on how much corporations can write off for donations (thanks for the tax reform, Mr. President), but all that would do is increase competition for those funds. It’s part of their financial planning, all you have to do is go talk to them, sell them on supporting your non-profit enterprise, and give them enough lead time to dedicate their budget.

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2busy2bu

July 16th, 2009
6:31 pm

Eyedrum is a great alternative art space, but it was an unwise move to take on a space bigger than they were willing or able to market successfully, especially since the artists involved dislike even the concept of marketing.

Oh and to John: Ignore the haters, you have every right to your opinions on art. Ridiculous how people who are for free speech are so ready to slam you for expressing yours. The fact that you even bothered to comment on the arts shows you have some interest. And that can develop over time into a rich experience for you. It can be the art of flyfishing, or painting. Just because someone says it is art doesn’t mean it is art to everybody!

I hope eyedrum survives, it offers anyone interested a very interesting experience. They just need to evolve with the times. It really is a strong economy that allows all that free expression! The government can only do so much, and they are more unethical that the majority of companies that get so much grief for trying to survive as well!

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Pragmatist

July 17th, 2009
1:35 pm

People don’t schedule conventions in Atlanta to attend mediocre art galleries in the city. They come because of the airport and cheap convention space at the GWCC. But, atlanta’s lost a lot of convention business because of all the homeless downtown and crime, which the city never changes. Instead, atlanta cops spend time looking for jaywalkers, too afraid to deal with the drug / crime problems.

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econ101

July 17th, 2009
4:27 pm

Pragmatist,
Other cities have airports and convention centers. People come to Atlanta because of the cultural attractions- MLK Center, World of Coke, The High, The Aquarium and yes, a vibrant art scene.
That is why we are in the process of getting beaten by Miami, Charlotte Nashville and other smaller but smarter cities.
I agree that crime is a problem but it is a problem in most big cities. Do you think Miami is crime free?

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janice grisham

July 17th, 2009
4:48 pm

I look at this and it gives me chills, the most chilling thing is that our young minority men still don’t get it. A prison will be built for them before a house. They can go there and remain the slave that our civil rights leaders gave their time and many times their lives to change. We need to wake up as a people and stop dreaming. The nightmare has to end.

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July 19th, 2009
12:04 am

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Mary Ann Powell

July 19th, 2009
10:59 am

I saw an article today in the AJC (”Gallery Walks”) that I wanted to send to a friend out of town. I could not find it online. Was I not looking hard enough or is the “AJC Lving & Arts” Section not avalable online?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 19th, 2009
4:42 pm

Hi Mary Ann!

Here’s a link to the story: http://www.accessatlanta.com/news/content/arts/stories/2009/07/19/atlanta_arts_walks.html

Most content of this type actually lives on our entertainment portal site, http://www.accessatlanta.com, rather than AJC.com. We’re in the process of switching content management systems — AJC.com went live last week, and Access goes this week — and I hear that navigation and searching will be simpler then.

Regardless, AccessAtlanta.com is the better place to look first for entertainment, to-do etc. type stories.

Thanks!

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JoeV

July 20th, 2009
4:41 pm

Please keep up the good work! This blog is full of great info and is very much appreciated.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 20th, 2009
4:47 pm

Aww, thanks! As always, feel free to share your ideas, too, whether in the comments, on Twitter @insideaccess or by e-mailing me at jgumbrecht@ajc.com.

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Jerry Raynor

July 21st, 2009
8:23 pm

I like the old coke bottle better.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 21st, 2009
9:00 pm

The new one seems very slick, but I’m still kind of waiting to see what else it does. I want there to be more. Maybe I just need more flashing lights and genuine artifacts to make me happy.

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DH

July 22nd, 2009
12:22 pm

I think people should be asking what the Atlanta did with the millions that the panda’s have already earned during their tenure here. When Mei Lan was born, they raked in the money left and right! Where did it all go?

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DH

July 22nd, 2009
12:23 pm

Edited because I left the word “zoo” out.

I think people should be asking what the Atlanta ZOO did with the millions that the panda’s have already earned during their tenure here. When Mei Lan was born, they raked in the money left and right! Where did it all go?

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john

July 22nd, 2009
12:33 pm

I liked the panda exhibit. The problem with the zoo is that they only have 1/10 of the amount of animals they had 30 years ago. The only exhibit that is as big as it used to be is the reptile house, which I guess is the easiest/cheapest to care for. In the 1970’s the zoo had an amazing number of monkeys/apes, exotic cats, and birds. The conditions now may be better for the animals that are left, but there is not nearly as much variety. Would you rather watch a high definition documentary about apes or go to the zoo and see a black speck 75 yards away at the top of a hill? You used to be able to see the massive Willie B. in his cage, and it was quite an impressive and amazing site to see. Now you just see some black dot at the top of a hill.

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SirReal

July 22nd, 2009
12:35 pm

I agree. I think some of that missing money should have gone to upgrades b/c to be honest, our zoo SUCKS. I mean, these animals are literally walking around on gravel. The restaurants have terrible food. The appearance of the zoo is circa 1975. I think some big wigs up top took the money and just didnt care about the zoo as long as people are coming. Sad…..

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 22nd, 2009
12:35 pm

Hi DH! This doesn’t quite address your question, but this story from April gives some sense of where the zoo is at financially: http://www.ajc.com/living/content/printedition/2009/04/29/zoo0429.html

I found a 2006 story in our archives, too — sorry, I couldn’t find a URL — that talked about the financial trouble the zoo was in pre-panda cub. It mentioned specifically that the non-profit that runs the zoo expected a spike in visits and dollars because of Mei Lan, but “the birth of the cub does not significantly alter the financial outlook.”

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DH

July 22nd, 2009
12:42 pm

Thanks Jamie,
Sorry, I don’t buy it. I have season passes and have had so for years. I know what the crowds look like, especially after Mei Lan was born.

The raked in money hand over fist. Where did it all go?

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Cheryl

July 22nd, 2009
3:56 pm

DH and John, if you are members at Zoo Atlanta, then you should know where the money raised from the pandas goes. It goes to the conservation of these beautiful giant pandas..read up a bit before you blurt out stupid comments. The zoo is wonderful compared to seeing Willie B. in a cage! I loved Willie B and miss him, but pls don’t say you would rather see a large gorilla in a cage over seeing them in a natural setting, like they would be in the wild. Geez!!!!!!!!

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Dawn UK!!

July 22nd, 2009
4:07 pm

John – Zoo Atlanta is about animal conservation and well being, NOT placing an animal in a cage for human enjoyment, I visited in January and got to see the Gorillas close up, and found the staff exceptionally friendly and willing to do all they could to allow me to see Ivan, If you know anything about Willie B then you would have seen the documentary that is for sale in the zoo store, the reaction when he walked on grass for the first time was priceless, how can you compare that to your views??
The pandas are part of a breeding programme that ZA are doing exceptionally well with, or would you rather see them only on your HD TV, as without zoos like ZA offering the dedication and support that is the only place they would be in the future, i know what i would prefer!

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Karen

July 22nd, 2009
4:22 pm

I live in IL and make a point to travel to Atlanta to see the pandas and the other animals at Zoo Atlanta. I am member of the zoo even though I don’t live there. I believe in supporting the animal conservation efforts of the zoos. The pandas are a huge expense for the zoos that have them.

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john

July 22nd, 2009
4:50 pm

Cheryl, my understanding is the zoo leases the pandas from China for a large amount of money. That money goes to panda conservation. If you have any figures on how much more money other than the panda lease money went to panda conservation lets hear it.

Sir real, the only thing in the zoo that is like 1975 is the reptile house, and that is the most impressive exhibit there and probably has over half the zoos animals.

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EA

July 22nd, 2009
5:13 pm

Well, for starters, all four USA zoos with pandas raised money after the 5.12 Sichuan Earthquake in 2008 to help after the one of the two main breeding and research centers was destroyed. I believe in excess of $200,000 was raised.

In addition, each USA zoo is involved at its own expense in research that is beneficial to the pandas. Each zoo has an area it concentrates in. Memphis Zoo, for example, concentrates on nutritional issues related to pandas. What I find interesting is that Atlanta doesn’t seem to regard the pandas as anything special, nor does it seem to support its zoo. Visit the Memphis Zoo sometime and everywhere you look is a donor’s name, and there are also new exhibits coming online all the time. This fall Memphis will open a Grand Teton exhibit with elk and 5 orphaned grizzly bear cubs complete with a waterfall and stream the bears wade in to catch their fish dinner. After that opens, a new Hippo Camp will be built. San Diego’s Zoo just opened their huge Elephant Odyssey. When San Diego needed a new $100,000 bamboo cooler for their pandas, their supporters raised the money in about two weeks through an online appeal.

I am sure there are annual reports available from Zoo Atlanta that outline how funds are spent. Their Administration Building is right up front at the parking lot and you can drop by and ask there. But I bet that’s too much effort in a town that seems so disinterested in such a valuable asset.

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clm

July 23rd, 2009
8:33 am

Most of the money for the Pandas goes to China. The actual conservation is supposed to take place there, but most of the Pandas in China are in captivity. As for Zoo Atlanta, it is land-locked and cannot expand. It seems to me they are trying to crowd more animals in the inadequate space they have – Warthogs, MeerKats, etc. Good luck trying to get copies of their finanacial records. The Open Records Laws in the State of Georgia are very restrictive.

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bobby c

July 23rd, 2009
9:13 am

i am wondering why/where the article is opining how the concert went?
i was there. where were you? customarily there would be some type of write up regarding the local take on the world traveled “star”. while i enjoy your interview, where is the acclaim, or the critism of the songs, the presentation, the stage presence, the fact that the precussionist is her son? i guess it was a busy news night in mid town atlanta, i missed the crime, punishment, wrecks, hold ups, and saw a pretty nice lady present a pretty good song table and was wonderful.
bobby c.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 23rd, 2009
10:37 am

Hi Bobby! Alas, I wasn’t at this show. I was working on another story last night, which should be posted later today. I should point out, too, that this wasn’t my interview, but rather an interview completed and written by an AJC freelancer as a preview to the show. (If I do the interview, it’s typically announced in the headline with capital letters.) I hear, though, that we’ll soon be launching music and arts blogs, so hopefully those folks will be able to focus more of their time on criticism and music-specific discussions. Meanwhile, what was the best moment of the show? Anything that particularly got to you? Wish I could have been there.

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AB

July 23rd, 2009
11:46 am

There is also the art walk in Roswell and the Westside Art Walk . . . probably more.

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AH

July 23rd, 2009
12:26 pm

What about the Fire/Police Mayoral Forum? Maybe we should check out important events as they happen instead of worrying about whats on TV tonight or where to get drunk and have a good time.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 23rd, 2009
12:38 pm

Hi AH! As always, the daily to do list is open to ideas. The best way to get the info out in this blog is to add events to the AccessAtlanta.com calendar before the day of an event. (There’s a link to the “add a listing” page in every “to do” post.) Community meetings and forums have certainly been mentioned before. Getting people outside the house and into the community is part of what I hope this blog will do.

For those who are interested, here’s a link to more information about the forum AH is talking about: http://tr.im/tHQl

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Cheryl

July 23rd, 2009
11:28 pm

John, I don’t have the figures, but they are probably held in the offices of Zoo Atlanta..as clm said, not sure how easy it would be to get them. BUT in regards to the reptile house..it’s old and outdated in the least. Why would you want the animals to be in places that were “appropriate” in 1975 anyway? That’s the reason zoos have changed so much in the last few decades..Please continue to support the zoo as long as you can, but also try to enjoy the animals in the natural settings they belong in, or as close as possible in the space Zoo Atlanta has.

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July 24th, 2009
12:15 am

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Mria

July 24th, 2009
6:06 pm

Cool camp for girls. LOVED it last year and this year is only getting better!

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Jeremy

July 24th, 2009
11:26 pm

Being critically endangered, attention is what they need…they do need help.

Seems like a tough task to fundraise for animals during an economic low, especially when the prospect of things getting better seems a long way off. But just a small donation by many people can make a huge difference. They are worth the price of admission.

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July 25th, 2009
12:02 am

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 25th, 2009
1:38 am

Woohoo! Thanks, Mria! It was really great just to spend an afternoon at camp. The show has got to be fantastic.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 25th, 2009
1:45 am

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, everybody. Really interesting variety of perspectives. The (deeply unscientific) poll results are an interesting mix, too. As always, will keep you updated.

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Sara

July 25th, 2009
2:56 am

I recently came across your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I don’t know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.

Sara

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Cassie Bradley

July 25th, 2009
12:17 pm

gloATL’s outdoor performance last night at the Woodruff Arts Center was a multi-media extravaganza of dance. The performance repeats tonight (Saturday 7/25) at 8:30 pm. It’s a rare free event conducted under even rarer Atlanta temperate summer skies. My only advice is GO GO GO!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 26th, 2009
7:15 pm

Thanks for the input, Cassie! How was the crowd when you went?

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rachael

July 27th, 2009
5:02 pm

I love your fan girl articles! Maybe because I can totally relate…

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 27th, 2009
9:51 pm

And really, that’s the reader I’m going for: nostalgic, giddy and loving. :)

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LAS

July 28th, 2009
12:16 pm

Scottish singer Paolo Nutini is playing the Variety Playhouse tonight – he puts on a great show. Starts at 8, ticket prices are around $30 including additional fees.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 28th, 2009
12:23 pm

Thanks, LAS! Never seen him, but I’ve heard great things…

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concerned

July 28th, 2009
4:47 pm

The problem is, the zoo wants to raise money to keep the pandas here, but they are having more serious budget issues. They have cut back on medical and food supplies for the other animals; they have laid-off employees; and they have put hiring freezes on keeper positions. This is an atrocity that zoo management is attempting to raise money to keep pandas and yet they are not taking adequate care of the other animals. This is a sentiment that is shared by the majority of the keeper staff. Yes, the zoo answers to the USDA, but the USDA is understaffed. Inspections are infrequent, the inspector shows up at the zoo office and phone calls are placed to all departments to let them know the inspector is on grounds, the veterinary staff escorts the inspector around, thus taking them to certain areas first and allowing the animal areas to straighten up to prepare for the visit. If an inspection were to take place today, the keeper staff would not dare raise the issues of medicine or food to the inspectors for fear of losing their jobs. So, should the pandas stay? You be the judge, but the majority of the keepers I have spoken with at Zoo Atlanta don’t think so.

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Ken

July 28th, 2009
9:16 pm

You are in danger of getting shot or robbed at any of those places except Town Center or Mall of GA. Everywhere else is pretty much thug infested.

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ladilovely

July 28th, 2009
9:30 pm

Always, someone has to start with negativity. Think positive and say it will be a wonderful event at all locations.

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BigBalls

July 28th, 2009
9:39 pm

Ken, sounds like you don’t get out much. There’s danger everywhere. A tree could fall on your house for God’s sake. Take some risk and get out there and enjoy life. Life is uncertain and tomorrow is not promised to any of us. Besides that, you’ve exaggerated. Most of those places are pretty decent. Grow some “balls”!

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Courtney

July 28th, 2009
9:44 pm

It is amazing how many Thugs hang out at malls. I guess I would too if I lived in a crack house or ghetto.

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Chris

July 28th, 2009
10:00 pm

no one ever gave me a free backpack but now you can just show up begging and get all the stuff for free for your kids (all nine of the kids) and they want me to give up my money for a mother who is not stopping herself from over population of the earth so it this not rewarding folks for having children just to get stuff for free

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Kat

July 28th, 2009
10:20 pm

Chris: Though I agree with your comment in general, I’m not sure any woman (though I could be wrong) would have additional children JUST to get stuff like a backpack for free. Though that is probably not on their mind in the backseat of some beater car that in 6 years, they can send kiddies to school with backpacks bought with someone else’s dime.

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SayWhat?

July 28th, 2009
10:45 pm

It’s not worth going out into the insanity to save the $4.23 I might save on taxes. On the other hand, it we could go to the fair tax plan, then I’d have enough money to buy my kid’s school stuff without a “tax free holiday.”

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 29th, 2009
12:20 am

Hey folks, we’re not discussing crime or your opinion on who goes shopping. Nobody is going to force anyone to buy stuff, to watch “Hotel for Dogs” or to donate a backpack. This post is obviously meant to inform willing shoppers about fun to be had during the tax-free holiday. Stay on topic. Many thanks to those who are, and to those moving the conversation forward!

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nuphaz2

July 29th, 2009
7:04 am

what’s wron with you people. This list even incues Phipps Plz and you think it a thug hang out. This article is so different than the posts. Nobody has more children for backpacks. We are living in a tough economy. Every little bithelps a struggling family. But do know the increased sales help RETAILERS. There are almost 300k unemployed Georgians. For those of us not having he sam experience, ponder this. The un-educated\under-educated children of today could be the burden of society tomorrow.

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hanneke

July 29th, 2009
10:04 am

I watched Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince last Monday. I was so thrilled to go see it in the theater, watched all other’s at home on DVD. I was soooo disappointed………I expected much more than I got. The movie was boring, not what we are used to see when watching a Potter movie. To all who read this, SAVE your money, this movie is not worth the expense, go buy yourself something nice and do not waste your time. I have never been more disappointed in a movie that is being advertised as the best Potter ever, I am sorry I disagree, it was awefull.

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wonderful09

July 29th, 2009
11:06 am

Thanks Jamie- that really needed to be said!!!
This is a great website. I am always look for things to do around town. I have never taken advantage of tax-free weekend but this year is an exception. I need a new laptop and I have a daughter graduating this year and the expenses of that are really adding up. I only wish I could get a discount on her pictures this weekend

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Not Being a Victim Ever Again

July 29th, 2009
12:30 pm

Jamie, I hope and pray you NEVER, EVER get robbed at gun or knife point at one of these Atlanta-area shopping malls like my family and I have. If you ever have to look and see the look of horror and tears in your child’s eyes when a rude & vicious lowlife thug is holding a knife to your throat and demanding your purse and your car keys and whatever is in your shopping bags, I doubt you will have such a condescending or flippant attitude to those of us who have. It just isn’t worth losing everything you have including your life or your child just to get something for free or save a few dollars on sales tax. Life is too short and too precious. Bless you and have a blessed day, Jamie.

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Rochelle

July 29th, 2009
1:11 pm

All ya’ll crazy and need Jesus

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 29th, 2009
3:21 pm

Not Being a Victim Ever Again: I’m so sorry to hear what happened to you, and I’m sorry if I came across as flippant or condescending, but I wholeheartedly believe that readers relying on this post for entertainment info can make their own decisions about where they’re going and whether they think it’s safe — without negative stereotypes playing out in the comments. This is not an appropriate forum for the topic. Unfortunately, crime happens everywhere — at shopping centers, but also in homes, schools and neighborhoods. Like you, most of us have experienced it, or someone close to us has. We can’t always live in fear; I hope this post, rather, will give people more information to have a fun, easy weekend of shopping, if they choose. Thanks for sharing your perspective!

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LeeDawg

July 29th, 2009
4:07 pm

Its a mobile at fernbank science center

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Liviangel

July 29th, 2009
4:11 pm

It is in the Childrens Museum Imagine It. Not sure what it is called but you move the balls through the tube and wire systems.

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Sean

July 29th, 2009
4:13 pm

Kids Museum Ball Mover… I don’t remember seeing a name on it, but it has cranks & pullies to move balls from one location to another with a large hopper that fills up & then they can dump.

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Liviangel

July 29th, 2009
4:16 pm

Its called Tools for Solution

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Birthday Dad

July 29th, 2009
4:17 pm

ImagineIt Museum across from Centennial Park and The Georgia Aquarium @Baker St….It’s the Ball Mover that I can never get my kids to stop playing to leave the darn place…LOL..Ok Vanna, What’ d I Win?…LOL

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HUH?

July 29th, 2009
4:49 pm

I don’t think it’s enough background info. As large as Atlanta is that could be any number of things. Maybe we can narrow it down to a general area in the city or whereever.

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jburgess

July 29th, 2009
4:49 pm

ga lottery tumbler

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Kat

July 29th, 2009
5:04 pm

Yep, it looks exactly like that ball transportation system at Imagine It, which is a fantastic place to take your kids to play. You just need enough adults to keep track of the kiddies, as they will go in all different directions.

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Meashelle D.

July 29th, 2009
5:38 pm

It’s the Georgia Lotto Machine

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L Bagwell

July 29th, 2009
6:36 pm

Imagine It! museum

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Blaxar Savajez

July 29th, 2009
6:36 pm

Shop Online instead and avoid all of Atlanta’s infamous THUGZ.

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J. Christopher

July 29th, 2009
6:57 pm

Its the method of determining coverage used by my HMO

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Rachel Ray

July 29th, 2009
7:24 pm

It’s a margarita machine! Pour me one!!!

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Michael Vick

July 29th, 2009
7:25 pm

It’s a device used to fight dogs….I had several myself.

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wild imagination

July 29th, 2009
7:45 pm

its the shell of a boeing 747

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shellnew

July 29th, 2009
7:47 pm

its the undercarriage of an ingles grocery cart

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honest in Atlanta

July 29th, 2009
7:55 pm

gumball machine

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taylor

July 29th, 2009
8:31 pm

I have no idea…but I like the idea of the game.

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Stephen Hawkins

July 29th, 2009
8:33 pm

Its the Mayors answers to the city sewage problems

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Jeff Foworthy

July 29th, 2009
9:51 pm

Rectum? Hell, it damn near killed him!

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Ms Ima Fatazz

July 29th, 2009
9:55 pm

CIRCUS HIGH WIRE.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 29th, 2009
10:23 pm

I am loving some of your answers. :)

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TRUTH

July 30th, 2009
9:10 am

It’s the matter inside Shirley Franklin’s brain!!!

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bruno

July 30th, 2009
2:33 pm

Looks like a very small miniature of the Wright Brothers plane from the Tellus Museum…

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Dennis

July 30th, 2009
3:08 pm

A gum ball despenser (with a spiral chute)

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NotAgain

July 30th, 2009
5:19 pm

When is the National White Arts Festival?

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Virginia

July 30th, 2009
10:04 pm

$12.50 for a child 2 and up? That’s absurd, especially with the economy the way it is! I’m sure to the wealthy and upper class, it’s just a drop in the bucket for them, but when you have two adults and 2-3 kids 3 and up, that’s $100 and up(not to mention transportation, food, etc.). maybe you shouldn’t start charging kids til they’re school age-like 6,for example. Why 6? I took a couple of kids to Sci Trek once and only the two older kids understood it well enough to participate in the events. The younger two cried too much,were crying for food constantly,and I had to stop to take them to the bathroom every 15 minutes or so.There were no free tickets for us like the Atlanta family behind me (I guess they assumed we could afford it because we were not black). No wonder they went out of business.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 30th, 2009
10:19 pm

Virginia: Imagine It! does offer Target Free Second Tuesdays, which allows folks to visit the children’s museum without paying admission. There’s one coming up 1-8 p.m. on Aug. 11. For more info: http://www.childrensmuseumatlanta.org/visitors/calendar/target_free_second_tuesdays

Also, it’s common for museums and cultural institutions offer free days or discounted admission for residents of their city or county. (The High Museum has one this weekend, for instance.) To be clear, it has nothing to do with race.

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Are you kidding me?

July 31st, 2009
4:08 am

How about the other 360 days a year! You don’t have to be a minority (I’m not…) to understand that majority culture gets the majority of air time by definition.

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Becky

July 31st, 2009
9:19 am

Virginia, I was in agreement with you until I read your comment about “guess they thought we could afford it, since we were not black”.
Not all black families expect things to be free, nor do all black families get everything free..

If you have 2-3 kids, then you and your husband need to figure out what y’all want to do without in order to take your children places that you have to pay to get in..That’s what me and my husband do in order to take our 2 greandkids places…Oh, and by the way, I’m not black..

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Nicole

July 31st, 2009
9:39 am

I am a single parent who loves taking my kid out on adventure days (Zoo atlanta, fernbank, krispy kreme, Cleveland Ga, etc). I dont expect things to be always be free. I give up getting my nails done, buying new jeans, Starbucks (that was hard to do) and other things I WANT just to afford the oh so pricey adventure days my son has grown accustom to. I know how hard it is with one child, but Virginia, I did myself a favor, I stopped at one child. You choose to have more than one child, and you knew that taking care of them and providing for them was not going to be free. So suck it up. Shop around for the best deals, take advantage of online coupons, and certain offers/discounts your credit card company give away. Oh, and just in case you havent notice, I am BLACK

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BobT

July 31st, 2009
10:29 am

Thats way too much money.

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Chris

July 31st, 2009
11:18 am

When is the National White Arts Fesitval? Oh that’s right, we don’t have that.

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Reign

July 31st, 2009
11:33 am

Your White arts festival and other events, activities, etc. is 365 days a year, 24/7, we’re all exposed to your history, your culture, your everything everyday, that’s why other cultures represented in the United States of America have to do their own thing, otherwise, there will be no representation.

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Lisa

July 31st, 2009
11:35 am

Actually the “National White Arts Festival” occurs everyday at any major museum or festival – have you ever been to the High Museum or Dogwood festival?

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Brooke

July 31st, 2009
11:51 am

Hey Chris the National White Arts Festival can be found in any Powder Springs trailer park…cmon.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 31st, 2009
12:17 pm

Hey Chris, and everybody: Inside Access is a blog about fun things to do in Atlanta. This can be a good discussion, so let’s keep it civil and on-topic. This is not the place for race-baiting or hurtful stereotypes. Thanks for reading.

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Delight

July 31st, 2009
12:19 pm

tee hee….wow Chris actually had an impact. People, people. you scoop trash, place in dumpster and keep moving you don’t disect and attempt comprehension.

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Annie

July 31st, 2009
12:55 pm

Not Again, the National White Arts Festival is everyday.

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hbshep

July 31st, 2009
1:31 pm

Let’s stay focused here. Playing the race card was the wrong thing to do Ms. Virginia. Keep it simple…..!!

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Stephen Hawkins

July 31st, 2009
2:11 pm

Virgina- Come to my house with the museum manager and lets settle all of this over a beer. After all- Obama is teaching us that we can solve the worlds longest hatred over a 12oz draft (as long as the white house media is there to take the photos) PS- Virgina, I bet may even chip in the $1.75 for the beer so you could enjoy it.

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tl

July 31st, 2009
2:26 pm

Stated perfectly by Reign, “Your White arts festival and other events, activities, etc. is 365 days a year, 24/7, we’re all exposed to your history, your culture, your everything everyday, that’s why other cultures represented in the United States of America have to do their own thing, otherwise, there will be no representation.”

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Mark

July 31st, 2009
2:50 pm

I agree with Chris. You people want to be equal, but have this festival, BET, Black history month, etc. You people are your own worst enemies.

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Pete

July 31st, 2009
3:02 pm

How about a black violence history month. You excel at that.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

July 31st, 2009
3:08 pm

Pete: totally inappropriate. Treat it like a discussion between mature adults, or don’t talk. Take your hate elsewhere.

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GT

July 31st, 2009
3:26 pm

Thank you Nicole, well said!!! We need more responsible parents, single or married, black or white. Good luck raising your son!!

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midtowngirl

July 31st, 2009
3:31 pm

Mark, wouldn’t it be nice if you were PEOPLE??!! Don’t be mad…maybe in your next miserable life…PILGRIM…

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radtech

July 31st, 2009
3:41 pm

Sorry Jamie…this is supposed to be about fun things to do in the ATL. However, until people overcome their fears and lack of knowledge about other races and also seek more exposure to other ethnic groups and traditions, there will be very little racial change in this country. I didn’t see anything in your blog stating that this festival was only for black people…

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Sarah

July 31st, 2009
3:42 pm

Wow while this does sound pricey just look for coupons. Everyone take a deep breath and laugh at Stephen Hawkins comment b/c I’m sorry thats just funny. While it may be expensive it may be one of the best times your kids have this summer. You never know.

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Barker

July 31st, 2009
3:42 pm

Viginia’s ignorance aside, there’s no law that says that you have to take your child some place that costs too much. Part of being a responsible parent is teaching your child how to spend money wisely. It’s a good idea to show them that they don’t have to spend a lot of money in order to have fun. There are parks and festivals that are free, and there are other museums where the admission is a lot less.

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Brad

July 31st, 2009
4:32 pm

Besides being a biggot, Virginia is not very good at math. A family of 4 with everyone older thatn 2 years costs $50. If it is too much for you, don’t go. Or, go on a discounted day as others have pointed out. This is a great activity place for kids, but is better for 4-7 year olds than toddlers.

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Brenda

July 31st, 2009
4:52 pm

WoW…I’m white and I’m so sick of the black/white & white/black race cards….I personally love color so mine is red/white and blue!!! Proud to be an American

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Charles

July 31st, 2009
8:41 pm

And this is why we need a National Black Arts Festival in Atlanta and across the United States. Is it 2009 or 1909?

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notaracist

August 2nd, 2009
1:02 pm

Okay, I am a Black American(proud to be) and I have two teenage boys. I am also a housewife. When I ask my husband, if we could have more children, he said,”You can with your new husband because, I can not afford anymore”. Being that, I do not want a new husband, I settled for the two, I have. Back on point, my children only go places and do things that we can afford w/o pulling money from mortgage,car payment insurance, you know, the things we need. In other words, if we can not afford it, we do not do it. In closing,will this country ever get over race?

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Mark

August 2nd, 2009
1:10 pm

You can find black art on building walls downtown, overpasses, and in the ‘hood. Who needs a freakin festival when black art is all over?

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rachael

August 2nd, 2009
6:54 pm

I took a class on the history of Jazz with Dr. Andrews when I was an undergrad. It was excellent. Nice to see him pop up on the to do list!

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Mark

August 3rd, 2009
3:13 pm

How many shootings took place during the “event”?

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Margaret Kargbo

August 3rd, 2009
4:29 pm

thanks Jamie for posting this info…and for quelling the hate that some people just can’t seem to get over. many thanks!

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Henry

August 3rd, 2009
4:32 pm

OK, enough everyone. It’s a Children’s Museum. Let’s keep it clean. If you want to pay you can pay. If you want to come when it’s free-come when it’s free.

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Le Le

August 3rd, 2009
8:23 pm

Mark… no shootings took place during the event or around the event. NBAF is a cultural celebration of art and culture. Those who would carry guns and use them aimlessly won’t be found at NBAF events. And I guess those who don’t realize that miss out on a wonderful experience.

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Rusty

August 4th, 2009
9:17 am

Really, I don’t think either of them are that bad.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 4th, 2009
9:21 am

Did you click on the link about the mole rat pups? I wouldn’t want them living in my house or anything, but the babyfied version incites a little “Awwww…” out of me.

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Mark

August 4th, 2009
9:51 am

I have more “culture” on my shower curtain.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 4th, 2009
10:31 am

Mark: I sent you an e-mail as well, but to be clear, the comments section is a place for conversation, not taunts or put-downs. You seem bent on moving the discussion away from what people do for fun around Atlanta. Diversity of opinions are welcome, but we must be respectful of others and treat this like a discussion. If you’d like to talk more about this, please feel free to email me at jgumbrecht@ajc.com. Thanks.

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Bob

August 4th, 2009
1:56 pm

Some things are so ugly they’re cute.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 4th, 2009
1:59 pm

“So ugly they’re cute.” Oh, I do know. Greatest cat I ever had wasn’t cute on first glance, but then became so cute I couldn’t look at him without squealing.

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Eternity

August 4th, 2009
2:58 pm

Race, gender and sexuality are serious issues in America…indeed, around the world. Myself being a non-hetero black male, I can certainly attest to that. And yet there are those from every walk of like who have something worthwhile to say, something much needed to give. This article was written by a white woman who clearly understands this dynamic. She has risen above the fray, attempting to enlighten us all with good news–doing us proud. We all have our crosses to bear, but if you’ve got time to judge, you’ve got time to love.

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Browncoat

August 4th, 2009
3:53 pm

The bulldog is the ugliest animal

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el jefe

August 4th, 2009
8:11 pm

i predicted this when the concert was first announced. i respect sir paul, and would love to see the show, but $100 for an oversold lawn ticket at piedmont part is simply too much. it has nothing to do with the economy, it has to do with the fact that this ticket is overpriced for what it is. anyone who was at the ABB/DMB show in 2007 knows that the long bathroom and beer lines, coupled with the sheer pack of people on the lawn means that this show just isnt worth $100 (after ticketmaster gets done “conveniently” charging me $15 to take my money and print the ticket)

best of luck to the piedmont park conservatory, but i think they are destined to undersell this event.

if it was $50 + charges it would be a different story.

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TK

August 4th, 2009
8:22 pm

Not surprised by this at all…$100 is way too much for most people given the hassles of the crowd (and getting there early enough to actually get a decent spot on the lawn), the heat, and waiting 15 minutes to buy a beer or take a leak…

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FALCON JOSH

August 4th, 2009
8:26 pm

People learned that you can hear the music from outside the park anyway. The DMB show was simply to many people. You were just looking at a big screen. I enjoyed watching the show 2 months later in HD at home.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 4th, 2009
8:33 pm

Very good points, el jefe and TK. Still, even if it remains undersold, this will be a huge crowd of people who are apparently game for the crowds, heat, waits etc. I got tickets for my little sister and her boyfriend — huge fans who needed a bribe with a date on it to spur the trip south — and I have no idea how to tell them to navigate the area. I fear any advice I give will be useless when faced with a crowd of 40,000.

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Steve From Dalton

August 4th, 2009
9:01 pm

I would love to see Sir Paul but G.A. seats in the middle of August in Atl. don’t add up for a splendid time guaranteed for all. It will be hot and sticky. Then throw in 30,000 of your favorite new friends and you hope the people near you practice good hygiene habits.

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Macca

August 4th, 2009
10:16 pm

Keep in mind that this event is a BENEFIT for the Piedmont Park Conservancy. Yes, the tickets are pricey, but the PROFITS from the concert will help expand the new north area of the park.

Plus, it’s going to be a hugely fun party, no matter what.

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Tommy Mngsde

August 4th, 2009
10:18 pm

You have a chance to see a living legend. One of only 2 living beatles (along with Ringo). Google his setlist from Coachella. It is a greatest hit selection from McCartney solo, Wings and above all the Beatles including Lennon and Harrison tributes. It is an immense and intense list. Don’t miss out on the chance. And for those complaining about the price. Give me a break. Have you ever donated any money in your life to a worthy cause? Not only are you making a donation that will help that city of Atlanta by supporting the “Central Park” of our city (and increasing your property value by the way..) but you will be getting to see a legend for your investment. Instead of giving to a charity buy a darn McCartney ticket. You will be helping promote green living and paying to expand the size of public park that we all use for free. $100 isn’t that much out of your total bank account when you think of it that way is it? -Tommy M.

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Macca

August 4th, 2009
10:19 pm

Jamie, if you need advice on how to navigate the area, feel free to email me. I live two blocks from the concert area.

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Melvin

August 4th, 2009
10:24 pm

$100 for a ticket to watch a washed up old singer at the crummy Piedmont Park? Are you serious? I wouldn’t pay $1 to see that old guy. They should bring in some rappers instead and let everyone in free.

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Tommy Mngsde

August 4th, 2009
10:27 pm

This is the set List from Coachella show a few monts ago for all you cheapskates complaining about the cost of your donation This was part of a festival so expect at least this many but possibly more. By the way, I have to be out of town for this show so I can’t make it and it is KILLING ME.

Main set: Jet / Drive My Car / Only Mama Knows / Flaming Pie / Got to Get You Into My Life / Let Me Roll It (with a coda of Purple Haze) / Honey Hush / Highway / The Long and Winding Road / My Love / Blackbird / Here Today / Dance Tonight / Calico Skies / Mrs. Vanderbilt / Eleanor Rigby / Sing the Changes / Band on the Run / Back in the U.S.S.R. / Something / I’ve Got a Feeling / Paperback Writer / A Day in the Life > Give Peace a Chance / Let It Be / Live and Let Die / Hey Jude

First encore: Birthday / Can’t Buy Me Love / Lady Madonna

Second encore: Yesterday / Helter Skelter / Get Back / Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise) > The End

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Joe Joe

August 4th, 2009
10:43 pm

Paul has sold out something like 88 of the last 90 concerts. They went on sale in Dallas at 10AM and 70,000 tickets were sold in eight minutes. NYC and Boston are all sold out as was Halifax. They had the same problem last week in DC, so promoters should consider the fan base of the city and what they support. I would bet Atlanta and DC would sell out regardless of price for a hip hop show. The fan base of the Falcons and Hawks are not McCartney fans.

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uglyredhonda

August 4th, 2009
10:46 pm

I think another factor is that there were already other “major” shows scheduled that night. I know of several folks who were excited about the possibility of getting to see McCartney, but already had tickets to either the Def Leppard/Cheap Trick show at Lakewood or the Steely Dan show at Chastain.

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Tommy Mngsde

August 4th, 2009
10:51 pm

Speaking of “washed up”. Def Leppard? Saw them a few years ago. HORRIBLE? Joe Elliot’s voice is gone. And Steely Dan? Sure after they initially made their comeback in the late eighties but now they are resigned to making the easy buck playing Chastain and the Alpharetta amphitheatre going through the motions for 50+ year old Buckhead and OTP dorks that still think they are cool.

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Tommy Mngsde

August 4th, 2009
10:56 pm

Error above in my last post. Steely actually made their comeback around 1994. Now they just take the money. I have seen them 4 times since their comeback and every year they get worse and make less of an effort. Funny thing is the ticket price (along with their egos-Becker and Fagen) go up with each year gone by. I would NEVER pay another cent to see them again. Sell your ticket on Craig’s list and go see McCartney and support your free public Piedmont Park (and Atlanta).

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The Professor

August 4th, 2009
11:32 pm

The DMB show @ PP 2 yrs ago was The Longest Day of my life. Hothouse, stupid redneck drunks, stupid frat-boy drunks, thieving cab drivers, people saving “seats” amidst the dirt & tree roots. So, this time I paid for 2 VIP tix @ $400 each. It’s worth it for decent bathrooms and a spot on the hillside. Sir Paul won’t take the stage before 9 p.m., so why would I want to arrive at 4 p.m. and broil for hours?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 5th, 2009
1:39 am

Awwww, thanks, Macca! I think we’ve come to a solution: spend the morning and early afternoon wandering the Center for Puppetry Arts, then hand-delivering them to the proper entrance. Of course, if you live two blocks from where thousands of people are gathering, I imagine you’ve got good strategies for moving around in the area. :)

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 5th, 2009
1:44 am

“If you’ve got time to judge, you’ve got time to love.” Very nice. Thanks, Eternity.

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David

August 5th, 2009
4:43 am

The Beatles have always been my favorite band and I’d love to see McCartney for the first time. But an August show where you have to claim a seat in the afternoon sun/heat? No way.

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tc

August 5th, 2009
7:09 am

do it on the cheap and watch them on youtube. Go see a real performer like Jean Luc Ponty, Pat Metheny, Chuck Mangione…

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OZZFEST

August 5th, 2009
7:21 am

I REALLY DO NOT CARE HOW MANY SHOW UP…I WILL BE CAMPED AT THE GATE AT NOON WAITING TO GET IN. $100 IS WELL WORTH THE PRICE TO KEEP YOU COBB COUNTY PANSIES AT HOME.

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cowo

August 5th, 2009
8:17 am

Melvin you are one sick puppy! Paul is a beautiful, talented, amazing legend. This hiphop crap will be long gone in another 40 years, but the legend of the Beatles, and especially Paul, will still be going strong. It’s not only young black men who live in Atlanta, in case you have forgotten!

I will be there ready to be entertained royally, as I have in the previous 16 times I’ve seen Paul, with the Beatles, Wings, and on his own. I am worried about the heat and access to restrooms, as well as standing for hours on end before the show even starts. Would have prefered an indoor venue, or even across the street at Grady Stadium, but when Paul arrives on the stage, all pains and aches will be forgotten.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 5th, 2009
8:23 am

Hey folks, an early reminder: please be respectful toward each other in the comments, and let’s not let this stray too far off topic.

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Mark

August 5th, 2009
8:38 am

I have been waiting for Sir Paul McCartney to return to Atlanta. His divorce delayed touring for a year –and that was a disappointment. So when I heard McCartney was coming to Atlanta I was elated –for about 10 seconds. Then I found out he was playing Piedmont Park.

I do not mind at all paying $100 for the show and it would be well worth it if the concert were being held at a proper venue like GA Dome, Philips or Encore Park. But I will not be going to Piedmont Park.

I run the Peachtree Road Race every year and realize how difficult it is getting out of the area with 50K other people. I’m holding out, hoping that McCartney will return for a show in a proper venue. However, if this doesn’t sell out I doubt there will be a return trip during this tour. I may be waiting another two or three years again.

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Dee

August 5th, 2009
8:49 am

I’ve seen McCartney before and he does put on a great concert. But honestly, when I saw the price of the tickets, coupled with the fact that you have to arrive 4 hours before the concert, and no lawn chairs or even water is allowed, so you’re forced to sit on the ground and then fight the lines to get something to drink – it just wasn’t worth it to me. If it were priced a little more reasonably, and we were allowed to bring in chairs and our own drinks, I think they would have gotten a better response. I’d rather just donate $25 to the Piedmont Conservancy and be done with it. (Not all people going to the concert are Atlanta residence. I personally would have to drive in about 40 minutes. And there’s no Marta near me.)

To Tommy M. – not nice to insult people who want to see Steely Dan – calling the band washed up, and the patrons old – when you’re soliciting a Beatle who’s been around since the 60’s! Everyone has their own preference. Respect that.

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The Dogfighter Returns

August 5th, 2009
8:50 am

Sir Paul who? He must be another guy trying to pawn a ponzi scheme. If he ain’t American I ain’t interested. I might open me a mobile geritol and viagra stand on ponce and make me a killing with of all these old geezers.

Y’all gonna have cancer after this concert. Bring your sun tan lotion.

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yubyub

August 5th, 2009
10:29 am

Paul will put on a great show, no doubt. Saw him on the Flowers in the Dirt tour (which wasn’t called that), and it was fantastic. But this un-venue stinks. The Dome would have been much better…

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Drew

August 5th, 2009
10:54 am

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but I think Live Nation is offering 1/2 price tickets to the show today only. If you’re looking for an excuse, now’s the time to buy!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 5th, 2009
12:10 pm

Hey Drew! I noticed the Live Nation half-off sale, but didn’t see Paul McCartney on the list. Do you have a link with the info? Thanks!

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Joy

August 5th, 2009
12:38 pm

Paul McCartney in concert = you bet. Paul McCartney + the middle of downtown + the middle of August + porta potties + no lawn chairs + not enough vendors + nowhere to park = no thank you.

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miss marta

August 5th, 2009
1:00 pm

am i the only person that doesn’t think marta is going to be utilized for this show? dmb was a different crowd, young hipsters. paul is gonna attract a wider variety of people,but primarily suburban whiteys. call me crazy, i just don’t think they’ll be interested in using marta. a lot of people think marta is dangerous, not to mention marta doesn’t go out to east cobb.

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miss marta

August 5th, 2009
1:02 pm

not to mention, btw, dmb tickets were like $40 with service fees. i will pay $100 per ticket to see U2 in october, with a seat close to the stage and everything. but $90 services fees included for sir paul in the park, general admission style? paaaass.

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miss marta

August 5th, 2009
1:03 pm

@Joy, thanks for proving my point!

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Leslye Joy Allen

August 5th, 2009
1:08 pm

“For Colored Girls” is now running on much more than the star power of Crystal Fox, Nicole Ari Parker, and Robin Givens; it is running on the word-of-mouth from so many of us who have informed others that Jasmine Guy has assembled one of the most talented casts in True Colors Theatre history.

It would be a mistake not to acknowledge the other cast members: Danielle Deadwyler, Yakini Horn, and Nevaina Rhodes, along with Omelika Kuumba on drums. As someone who has witnessed this piece several times, it is damn near impossible to pick a specific favorite lady in this ensemble. Yes, they all are just that good which is just more proof of Guy’s deftness as a director and her unique abilities as a performance artist.

It is also beyond me why someone from AJC has not reviewed “For Colored Girls” with the same intensity that Wendell Brock reviewed “Blood Knot.” While “Blood Knot” deserved all the superlatives it received, Jasmine Guy and the entire cast of “For Colored Girls” deserve more critical attention. Of course, the show does not need the critical attention to sell tickets!! The audiences have spoken.

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JW

August 5th, 2009
1:31 pm

Who would want to see McCartney when Def Leppard and Cheap Trick are in town?

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A White

August 5th, 2009
3:14 pm

@ Leslye:

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

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ziza

August 5th, 2009
4:07 pm

Agreed A White. Well said Leslye. Absolutely inspring and enjoyable. I was fortunate enough to have seen the original on Broadway and this version does Ms. Shange and Ms. Guy real proud.

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Kitty Boo

August 5th, 2009
4:17 pm

It’s Mayor Shirley Franklin at a city council meeting.

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Mark

August 5th, 2009
4:49 pm

Maybe an entry to the Black arts festival?

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Rana Cash

August 5th, 2009
4:54 pm

If you move quickly, you can get 1/2 price tickets to the show tonight. Check out the details on the Atlanta Bargain Hunter blog http://tinyurl.com.au/x.php?1wrb

I’ll be checking throughout the extended show dates to see whether the half-price deal will apply to those as well.

Rana

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Matt

August 5th, 2009
5:01 pm

Is it from the Wren’s Nest? Looks like the thing that holds the pieces of string that had to be undone as punishment. Don’t remember the full story – is that right?

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Rana Cash

August 5th, 2009
5:28 pm

Just walked down to buy my tickets. Gone. This is an unbelievably popular show. The folks at AtlanTix told me that a FEW tickets will be available tomorrow, but you have to move hastily to get them. No word yet on whether they will be available for half-price for the extended shows. Let’s hope so!

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Julie

August 5th, 2009
7:33 pm

That looks part of an art exhibit of southern culture during Jim Crow that can be found at the High Museum of Art.

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Needabailout, too!

August 5th, 2009
8:57 pm

It’s an antique child’s doll, currently being displayed at Tavis Smiley’s Black History exhibit at the Civic Center.

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Tommy Mngsde

August 5th, 2009
9:36 pm

Dee. I have seen Steely Dan 5 times. They aren’t that good anymore. Sorry but they get worse ever year. They are 2 guys, Walter Becker and Donald Fagen and they sleppwalk through their sets for people that think they know good music and want to pretend they are hip jazz fans. And Def Leppard? You have to be kidding me. Maybe in 1984.

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Tommy Mngsde

August 5th, 2009
9:40 pm

I got to the Dave Matthews show 2 years show at around 6. An hour before the Alman Brothers came on. We had fine seats, a little back but the screens are HUGE. We went with 2 others friends and had a fantastic time. The lines were not theat big for the beers or the toliets. I really can’t believe that so many people thought it was so inconvenient to see the show there. Once again…think I should state since no one seems to get it. It is a BENEFIT show. If you don;t have the money to donate on behalf of benefitting the free public park the stop by Subway and grab your 3.99 meal of the day and go home and watch tv.

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To do list: August 6 | Inside Access

August 6th, 2009
12:06 am

[...] “Akeelah and the Bee” shows for Movies & The Market, 8:45 p.m., Atlantic Station’s Central Park, Atlanta. [...]

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Eric

August 6th, 2009
8:10 am

yes, useful format.

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Karen

August 6th, 2009
9:51 am

I like the new format. Great idea!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 6th, 2009
9:54 am

Great! These three-day posts will be buried a bit by end-of-the-week posts, but it will still be online, and linked directly from our newsletters, AccessAtlanta.com and AJC.com, if you need to check back. Thanks for reading!

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David

August 6th, 2009
9:56 am

There are plenty of places to park. The parking deck at 14th and Juniper is advertising parking and there is a parking deck in the park now that will be open. http://tinyurl.com/greenconcertparking

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K. Buyer

August 6th, 2009
11:38 am

Tickets are available online at: http://www.ticketalternative.com

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Kim

August 6th, 2009
1:21 pm

Since the Black Arts festival was in-town this past weekend, I am guessing it is art work or an artifact being displayed at one of the venues.

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chuck allison

August 6th, 2009
2:59 pm

Aunt Fanny’s kitchen off Spring Road near Smyrna.

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Gail

August 6th, 2009
3:01 pm

Is it part of the art exhibit in the State Dept of Agriculture building?

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DEIDRE

August 6th, 2009
3:05 pm

It’s Mayor Shirley Franklin at a city council meeting – LOL THAT IS TOO FUNNY!!!

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SweetWater Steve

August 7th, 2009
8:49 am

SweetWater has added Saturday tours from 2:30 – 4:30 – to the schedule. Great afternoon trip for those over 21. The tour is free and there is a plastic tasting cup for free as well – or you can get a souvenier pint glass for $8 – either way you receive 6 sample tickets to try all of the beers available.
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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 7th, 2009
9:10 am

I’ve been meaning to get back to this round of comments — apologies for being so behind — but I just wanted to thank you for such thoughtful, helpful comments. You make good points about what the AJC has and hasn’t done, and I don’t know if we’ll be able to fix it. (We don’t have a theater critic on staff anymore, and I’m certainly not the person who makes those decisions.) Moreso, sharing your experience with “For Colored Girls…” may help others, too. So keep your ideas and comments coming.

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Wendy

August 7th, 2009
1:28 pm

Can you explain the low distribution for movie “The Hurt Locker”? We have been searching for it in local theaters for 5 weeks. Why is it not being played? We see it eventually moved to 3 theaters, but all are much too far away.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 7th, 2009
1:47 pm

Hi Wendy — I have no specific knowledge about this, other than that it was produced outside a major film studio, which can easily keep it from theater ubiquity, and in general, the reception toward Iraq war movies has been lukewarm-to-cold the last few years. This has gotten great reviews and buzz, though, which can change things. I’ll ask around, and if I hear more about it, I’ll let you know. Where in the area were you hoping to find it?

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Sue Rodman

August 8th, 2009
8:02 am

Love this story. It makes me want to go to the Wrens Nest again. What a great place.

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Big Time Fan

August 8th, 2009
10:24 am

All: I understand where you are coming from. I just saw Paul’s concert at FedEx Field (Washington, D.C.) and the folks at FedEx field screwed things up royaly–parking nightmares (the show started 1 1/2 late to accomodate late arriving fans) and there was no water on the ground floor of the stadium for about an hour (so no colas or any food that required water for preparation, also bathroom situation was then complicated), but having to put up with all of that–the show was truly spectatular, magnificant, and completely wonderful in all respects. It may be the best concert I’ve ever been to–so, it’s worth it and I recommend that you attend, you won’t regret it I promise.

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Amy

August 8th, 2009
11:10 am

Very easy to read- I love it! Please keep this new format. Thanks!

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S. Fan

August 8th, 2009
1:22 pm

The problem is not Paul McCartney. The problem is the disaster that was the 2007 concert and the hot GA. Summers- with NO ice chest allowed. Making someone who is donating to the park stand in long lines and pay high prices for bad food, and a bathroom, WHILE missing the concert is just wrong. I am going but am contemplating deliberate dehydration- just hope I don’t pass out from the heat.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 8th, 2009
3:47 pm

One of these days, I need to go there NOT for work. If they haven’t gotten sick of all my questions already, surely they won’t mind them during the official tour? :)

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 8th, 2009
3:49 pm

Thanks Amy! I’ve heard nothing but happy comments from readers so far, so I think the weekend format is here to stay. Check back during the week, too, for a daily update of things to do!

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adventurous fan from Alabama

August 8th, 2009
5:46 pm

I’ve never been to a concert at Piedmont park, so I’m just trying to get an idea of what to expect. I’ll be staying at Regency Suites. Looks like a mile or so walk. Is there anyway of knowing when McCartney will be taking the stage. Do you take a blanket and scope out an area? I’ve never seen McCartney or the Beatles and figured this was my best chance.

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rick stafford

August 9th, 2009
8:49 am

please someone tell me how many people were at the paul mccartney concert atwashington fedex and many tickets were left please e-mail back

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mike

August 9th, 2009
9:06 am

Great format
thanks

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Cary

August 9th, 2009
12:35 pm

Is http://www.AscSkydiving.com going to be on your September list?

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Fan

August 9th, 2009
4:42 pm

I have tickets that allow entry at 4:00. Should I really go that early? Any tips on where to put the blanket? How far are the vendors from the viewing area?
Thanks to those of you who went in the past for answering Q’s!

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I'm going

August 9th, 2009
9:58 pm

I’m going I bought pre-buy tickets, now I’m kind of wishing I didn’t because of the economy, the tickets are expensive. I have paid tickets for dragon-con for 80$ before but it lasts 4 days, that makes it worh it. I have always wanted to see a ex-beatle and I don’t think he’s going to come around too many more times. So’ I’m going.

I remember when I saw Jefferson Starship and the Black Crowes at Piedmont park, its a SWEAT FESTIVAL :( plus waiting in lines to Pizz and waiting in lines for about anything plus how much does overpriced beer and food costs. Wish You could bring a cooler into this place but I bet you can’t. I am going with the nephew whose 20 and never seen a concert like this, especially a sweat fest, I have been to those above and Lakewood and midtown music festivals I know what their about you lose about 5 pounds in one day. Swear you will never go again, then a band comes and your right there. I love music. :)

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I'm going

August 9th, 2009
10:01 pm

I’m sure they will let blankets or towels, but thats it. I bet.

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I'm going

August 9th, 2009
10:09 pm

Last thing though, I have had alot of friends that have seen Paul play before, they said hands down that paul is in their top 5 of the best concerts they have ever seen. Thats why I’m going. :)

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 9th, 2009
11:32 pm

For folks with questions about day-of logistics, here’s a link to info about what you can (and can’t) bring: http://www.accessatlanta.com/atlanta-events/concert-111432.html

Blankets are good to go! As for blanket placement…I’ll get back to you.

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Chip

August 10th, 2009
9:33 am

What the yell is convenient about a $14.10 Convenience Charge PER TICKET? The amount just keeps going up. If it is a single purchase for multiple tickets, how is it a per ticket charge? How long is Tickemaster going to get away with this?

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Leslye Joy Allen

August 10th, 2009
4:03 pm

Hurry, hurry. As of 4:00 PM Monday, August 10, 2009 the Tuesday (8-11) and
Thursday (8-13) performances of “For Colored Girls” at 8:00 PM are sold out!! Wednesday’s 8:00 PM performance is almost sold out. The best remaining seats
are for the 2:30 PM Thursday (8-13) performance. But please be quick!!

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Stacy

August 10th, 2009
6:18 pm

While it’s under less-than-ideal conditions (outdoors in the August ATL heat, general admission, pricey tickets, etc…), my husband and I are driving 6 hours for this show. Why? Who knows if an opportunity to see a musical legend such as Paul McCartney will come our way again. We’re big Beatles fans; we’re big McCartney fans, so it’ll be worth it for us. Totally understand if people don’t want to pay that much for a ticket, though. Kinda bummed that cameras aren’t allowed (but we’d probably be so far back that we wouldn’t get any good pics anyway).

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OZZFEST

August 11th, 2009
12:07 pm

Guys, this is PAUL McCARTNEY…you know, like one of those dudes with the hair from the Ed Sullivan Show…like 45 years ago. The dude still ROCKS!
There are NO excuses not to go. If sitting on the grass in the park, drinking beer and hearing the equivilent of “Jesus reading from the Bible” is not something to look forward to – then get busy writing your will.

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Stuart F.

August 11th, 2009
1:08 pm

Cool, i’m glad there’s still a couple places left to see outdoor movies this summer. I love outdoor movies, i go to them whenever i can! in fact, i found a whole listing of them here, check it out: http://blog.openaircinema.us/blog/tag/georgia/
And i’ll see you at the movies! :)

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Judy

August 11th, 2009
1:51 pm

Jamie, thanks for the link regarding what can and can’t be taken into the concert. I have my ticket and wouldn’t miss it for the world. I guess I’m pushing the limits with this question but I have a bad back and just can’t stand or even sit on the ground without back support. Do you think I can take in a cushion that sits directly on the ground but offers back support — especially if I don’t carry in the allotted one blanket per person. Who made up these crazy rules — the one thing you don’t need in GA in the middle of August is one blanket PER person!

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joe

August 11th, 2009
2:47 pm

I won free tickets and I’m still not sure if I will go…Yes I would like to see Paul but I know it will be a living he ll ….. They have made it hard in every way…ok , so you charge a lot for your tickets…you’ve made your money…don’t be so damn greedy , let us bring our own food a nd water and at least make it a little fun….money, thats what I want….mooooooney, thats what I want….

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joe

August 11th, 2009
2:56 pm

but what I really don’t understand is they kicked the arts festival and dogwood out of the park because they didn’t want people touching the grass. sooooooooo, how do you justify 50,000 people stomping on the grass all day long? mooooney, thats what I want….(”money” sung by the Beatles) sing with me now….Mooooooney, that’s what I want….

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T

August 11th, 2009
3:13 pm

I wonder if we will be among several thousands of middle-aged folks having a hard time standing up from the ground when Paul takes the stage. And don’t even mention sitting on someone’s shoulders…that would take 2 hours and an act of God. Our backs and bottoms will probably pay for it afterwards, but it will be great.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 11th, 2009
3:33 pm

Hi Judy! Not limit-pushing at all. :) I talked with the folks at Piedmont Park today, and they said seat cushions are fine, and even cushions with a back support. The key is that they can’t have arms and legs. They want to avoid objects that can be used as projectiles, and things that would get in the way of people making a quick exit, in case of emergency. Here’s my latest post about what to know pre-McCartney concert: http://blogs.ajc.com/inside-access/2009/08/11/what-you-need-to-know-before-the-paul-mccartney-concert-street-closings-weather-how-to-get-there-what-to-bring/

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Rusty

August 11th, 2009
4:00 pm

Hopefully Midtown won’t be too jacked up the Friday before. I work on 14th Street walking distance from the park.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 11th, 2009
4:12 pm

It sounds like Thursday and Friday should be pretty calm — most of the unloading and building should be done. I fear for the folks coming into town on Saturday for something other than Paul McCartney.

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rachael

August 11th, 2009
9:13 pm

“Really: no car.” Love it.

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August 11th, 2009
10:50 pm

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Coop

August 12th, 2009
9:29 am

Are mosquito repellant and sunscreen allowed? Should my wife just stick those in her purse? Looking forward to seeing Paul.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 12th, 2009
9:55 am

Hi Coop! Those should fall in the medical supplies category, so you’re good to go. For your own comfort, I’d recommend avoiding the ultra-super-jumbo-sized bottles of either.

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Professor

August 12th, 2009
10:11 am

You people lost the Civil War…enough please find something else to write or talk about. This topic is really old I don’t care what type of spin you put on it

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 12th, 2009
10:20 am

Professor, perhaps it wasn’t clear, but this is a work of fiction about a girl growing up in Georgia in the 1960s. While the title has the word “Confederate” in it, if you took time to read the post or the book itself, I think you’d see that it has nothing to do with putting a spin on the Civil War. You might actually enjoy it.

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hanna

August 12th, 2009
10:43 am

Professor, i have one word for you “exlax”…………..

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Mumsy

August 12th, 2009
12:24 pm

This sounds like a good read for the other “reader” at home.

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Ashley's Pal

August 12th, 2009
2:00 pm

Here is what Ashley at the PPC sent in an email:

You should be fine bringing a small camera, the no camera rule is aimed at cameras with detachable lenses.
Everyone will be entering the same gates, but the people with pre-sale tickets will be moving through the gates and the regular GA ticket holders will have to wait until 5pm. I recommend going to the part of the line that is moving forward. There will be people around to help you get in on time without confusion.

—- there is so much inconsistent info about this event!

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Mike B

August 12th, 2009
2:44 pm

I bought my tickets on the pre-sale date but nothing on the printed out ticket from ticketmaster says pre-sale or early entry on it. How are they able to tell who bought what and how can you tell for sure so you can plan on when to arrive? It sounds like it could be mass confusion at the event. Thanks!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 12th, 2009
2:52 pm

Hmmm…I’ll check that out, Mike B. I received two e-mails and a phone call from Ticketmaster saying that my tickets could get in at 4 p.m. Have you heard anything from them?

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Leona's girls

August 12th, 2009
3:10 pm

Once you enter Piedmont for early entry, do the tickets allow you to go in and out? Meaning, can you leave to revisit your hotel before the show and still get back in to Piedmont?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 12th, 2009
3:36 pm

All right, everybody! Some answers for you.

Ashley’s Pal: You’re totally right. Piedmont Park Conservancy folks say point-and-shoot cameras will be fine, it’s really detachable lenses, lights — camera equipment that can get a high quality image from far away — that’s the problem.

Mike B.: The bar code on your pre-sale ticket should say that it is a pre-sale ticket, which will allow you to get in at 4 p.m. Pretenders will have to wait till 5 p.m.

Leona’s girls: Once you’re in, you’re in. If you exit, there is no re-entry.

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Mike B

August 12th, 2009
3:59 pm

Thanks Jamie. Yes I did get an email from Ticketmaster Wed Aug 5th saying…

“Hello, this is Ticketmaster Customer Service with an important alert for your upcoming event. Paul McCartney scheduled at Piedmont Park Conservancy, on Saturday, August 15, 2009, with a door time of 3:00pm, has changed times. The door time now will be at 4:00pm. Original tickets will be honored for the new time.”

My tickets were purchased the first day of the pre-sale, June 25th via ticketmaster but nowhere on the ticket does it say pre-sale. It just says general admission and “DRS 4pm”, never a mention of the 3pm referenced in their email to me. Since most people aren’t fluent in bar code, I’m guessing a bunch of confused people might try to get in early only to be turned away via the scan and thus slowing up the line for those who legitimately purchased early. Hopefully it will all run smoothly! Let us know if you hear any other helpful info. Thanks!

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Orlando C

August 12th, 2009
4:02 pm

There must be a good reason tickets are not sold out, but it certainly has nothing to do with Paul’s unrivaled talent. If he’s getting old and doesn’t sing as beautifully as before, he’s still pretty good and his legend and all that he represents are good enough reasons for us to go to this concert. C’mon, $100 is nothing. I’m flying 4,6 miles from São Paulo to Atlanta just to see him.

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Princess

August 12th, 2009
4:16 pm

This is the little house on exhibit outside at the High Museum.

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Tim

August 12th, 2009
4:16 pm

The front of junkman’s daughter in little five points

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malika

August 12th, 2009
4:19 pm

yep, that’s junkman’s daughter in L5P.

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damien

August 12th, 2009
4:29 pm

junkmans daughter in little 5 points

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Sahar

August 12th, 2009
4:33 pm

The storefront of Junkmen’s Daughter in Little Five Point.

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Marisa

August 12th, 2009
4:41 pm

Front of junkman’s daughter in Little 5 points

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Biker Trash

August 12th, 2009
4:47 pm

A self portrait of a Ga. democrat…location: Left wing in the Capital.

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I know!

August 12th, 2009
5:06 pm

it’s junkman’s daughter in L5P.

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Geo

August 12th, 2009
5:35 pm

My first thought was Krog street bridge but junkman’s daughter is much more likely.

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Joey Grizzard

August 12th, 2009
6:26 pm

Junkman’s Daughter – Little 5

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Sonny Perdue

August 12th, 2009
6:29 pm

Nowhere near anywhere I have ever been, or will go!

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Felix the Cat

August 12th, 2009
6:29 pm

junkmans daughter in lil 5 points next to vortex

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ATLien

August 12th, 2009
7:11 pm

J-Mart in L5P

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NA

August 12th, 2009
7:39 pm

It is either Hillary Clinton venting ath the poor kid in the Congo or Nancy Pelosi as she begins her daily routine of destroying the USA

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Andre

August 12th, 2009
7:52 pm

Junkman’s Daughter in Little Five Points, *NA* did you get lost? You clicked the wrong article. Political responders go under the politics page not the Inside Access.

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wxwax

August 12th, 2009
8:39 pm

The first thing Dick Cheney will see when he’s dead.

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wxwax

August 12th, 2009
8:39 pm

Jules

August 12th, 2009
9:51 pm

Junkman’s Daughter in Little Five Points

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August 13th, 2009
12:05 am

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Kevrock/Smarty Jones

August 13th, 2009
10:25 am

Junkmans’ Daughter in L5P. Easy.

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andy

August 13th, 2009
10:29 am

Do we know exactly what time 10th Street will be closing and at what junction? I’ll be driving in around 10 pm on Friday and my hotel is on 10th Street, Hotel Midtown. Just wondering. Thanks!

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gary cantelmo

August 13th, 2009
11:41 am

jamie – i bought a stadium seat which sits directly on the ground and has back support (about 12″ high). can i bring to mccartney show?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 13th, 2009
11:45 am

Hi Gary! The folks at PPC said a seat that stays on the ground — no arms, no legs — is fine. Back supports were fine, too. It sounds like you should be OK!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 13th, 2009
11:49 am

Hi Andy! Piedmont Park says the streets will close only on the day of the concert, so you should be fine at 10 p.m Friday. They’ve also said that it will be 10th Street around the park, so I wouldn’t expect to be able to drive between Monroe and Piedmont. Hope that helps!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 13th, 2009
11:49 am

And, for Andy: Piedmont Park says the streets will close only on the day of the concert, so you should be fine at 10 p.m Friday. They’ve also said that it will be 10th Street around the park, so I wouldn’t expect to be able to drive between Monroe and Piedmont. Hope that helps!

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not a local resident

August 13th, 2009
11:52 am

No car. Great, what are the rest of us supposed to do to get there? People need to stop assuming MARTA is always an option. It’s not, especially for out of towners. Yeah, i might be able to find a park and ride but that’s going to add another hour and a half. Wasn’t a parking garage just built out there for this reason?

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Dawg Foot

August 13th, 2009
12:07 pm

If it is anything like his New York show he is pulling out the stops and only playing the hits. No Bullshat.

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Dawg Foot

August 13th, 2009
12:12 pm

@joe

don’t hate the player. hate the game. jackarse

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OZZFEST

August 13th, 2009
12:15 pm

EXPECT A HUGE MESS BECAUSE OF THE FAILURE TO PRINT THE “GATE OPENING” TIME ON THE PRE-SALE TICKETS AND THEN THE EARLY ENTRANCE TIME CHANGE. I HAVE A VIP TICKET AND CALLED TICKETMASTER TO GET STRAIGHT ON WHAT TIME I COULD GET IN. TICKETMASTER RESPONDED WITH “ALL GATES OPEN AT 5″.
OF COURSE, THIS IS FALSE…BUT HEY, I ONLY PAID $36 FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE ON THIS $400 TICKET. IDIOTS!

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Joe

August 13th, 2009
12:27 pm

This article says that point and shoot cameras are fine, but the link to the full list says that cameras of any size are strictly prohibited. Since every cell phone has a camera I’m sure they can’t do anything about that, but is there a definitive word on point-and-shoot cameras? Since it’s miles from possible parking there won’t be much chance to go back to a car to drop off a camera if they stop you at the gate.

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Joe

August 13th, 2009
12:28 pm

Oh, sorry, I didn’t see your reply about that before… the answer lies above..

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andy

August 13th, 2009
12:28 pm

Thanks for the info Jamie! Everyone ready for a great concert? 44th Anniversary of the Shea Stadium performance!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 13th, 2009
12:56 pm

Hi mom. :) I think you’re right. Perhaps a birthday present…

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 13th, 2009
1:01 pm

Not a local resident: The parking garage at Piedmont wouldn’t come close to accommodating the number of people that will be at this show. What direction are you coming from? I’m happy to help you find a convenient MARTA station with free parking. (Plenty of the stations closer than the the end-of-the-line stations have parking, too.) Feel free to e-mail me at jgumbrecht@ajc.com, too.

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br

August 13th, 2009
1:26 pm

nobody is worth that price
we can thank the greedy Eagles for starting these overpriced events

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br

August 13th, 2009
1:26 pm

no one is worth that

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LynnMargaret

August 13th, 2009
4:05 pm

Will scooters be allowed any closer, or will they have the same non-access as cars? It’s fine, if not! Just wondering. Thanks!

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Nancy

August 13th, 2009
5:16 pm

Do you know how crowded the so-called “VIP” area will be? My husband and I are Paul’s age and probably not nearly as nimble as he is. Should we be there at 4 or do you think there will still be a good area for our blankets if we come in closer to 6 when it is a little cooler? BTW, this is my second concert — the first being on August 18th, 1965 when my best friend and I saw the Beatles at the Atlanta Coliseum.
Thanks!

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gr8FLdüde

August 13th, 2009
7:29 pm

Baby, you CAN’T drive my car!

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Josh

August 13th, 2009
10:29 pm

Im bringing a friend who is in a wheelchair.Will there be a hadicapped section where he will be able to see or should we just try to get there early as possible to get up front?Please help.I cant find any handicapped information.

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Josh

August 13th, 2009
11:11 pm

Also,what time is are the pre entry ticket holders expected to start lining up?Any words on that ?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 13th, 2009
11:49 pm

LynnMargaret: I haven’t asked specifically about scooters, and while you’ll probably be able to find an easy enough place to lock it up, you won’t be able to bring it in the pedestrian-only area.

Others: I’ll check on your questions Friday and post what I can!

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Nancy

August 14th, 2009
8:16 am

for ADA info click on the link on the right under “Concert Info” at http://www.piedmontpark.org/support/the_green_concert.html

Green Concert ADA Guide

1. ADA accessible seating is located near the Charles Allen Drive Gate. VIP ADA access is at 10th and Monroe Drive.
2. There is ADA seating for General Admission, VIP and Patron ticket holders
3. Many people were not aware of the online application for ADA seating.
4. Canine companions allowed.
5. A ticket holder may be denied entry to, or removed from, the accessible seating area if he or she is not disabled.
6. Handicap portable bathrooms are conveniently located near each seating area.
7. 1 companion can join each ADA concert attendee, if space is available.
8. Additional wheelchairs will be available for emergencies only.
9. MARTA is the best mode of transportation to the Green Concert. MARTA does provide ADA shuttles to the Park. Each train has a special wheelchair space at one end of each rail car. MARTA Accessibility
10. There will be volunteers located in designated handicap area.
11. Although not anticipated, if the area fills up the companion/guest is asked to move outside of the ADA seating.
12. No reserved spots in designated handicap area.
13. ADA MARTA buses will able to drive through h 10th street barricades.
14. MARTA’s last Southbound train leaves midtown at 12:45am and the last Northbound train leaves at 1:10am. Point out ADA seating on a map if someone wants to know the distance.
15. There is no ADA parking. MARTA has ADA buses. ADA taxi will be available.

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sharon

August 14th, 2009
10:14 am

MARTA riders: “Please be aware that rail service will end at 1 a.m.” – This is posted on the Marta website – check out their Press Center – Press Releases. They discuss the Green Concert… I keep seeing 1:10am, but I’d get to your station by 1:00, just to be sure…

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 14th, 2009
11:07 am

Hey Josh! Piedmont Park says the ADA area will be signed, and guards at the gate will direct you there. Check out Nancy’s comment above for full info! And, there’s no official time to start lining up — just a time when they’ll start letting folks in.

Nancy: I’m not sure how crowded the VIP area will be, but you can see it on the map. Sorry I don’t have better advice on this one.

Sharon: VERY good tip about MARTA service ending at 1 a.m. Many, many thanks.

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Rusty

August 14th, 2009
11:18 am

You’re on a roll with these awesome historical tidbits! More of this please.

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sharon

August 14th, 2009
11:55 am

U R Welcome Jamie. I also wish I knew how early to line up & whether the vendors will have vegetarian food for me! Do u know? Thanks!

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Nancy Giertych

August 14th, 2009
1:06 pm

Stage: “Sweeny Todd” High School Production put on by an all teen cast members of FCFT Inc., Wonderfully done dark comedy recommended for all 10 y/o and up. Held at the YMCA Community Center Friday and Saturday @ 7:30 pm and Sunday @ 2:30 pm. Advance tickets are purchased via fcft.net for $8 or $10 at the door if seating is available. Directions to the “YMCA” are: Take Huiet Road, off of Hwy 54 between PTC & Fayetteville, thru stop sign and turn right onto “YMCA” property; building is on the right at u-turn in parking lot.

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Nancy

August 14th, 2009
4:41 pm

Sharon, Since Paul is a well-known vegetarian and animal rights activist, chances are you will find plenty to eat.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 14th, 2009
6:38 pm

Thanks, Nancy!

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jqm

August 14th, 2009
7:17 pm

Does anyone know how to tell whether tickets were bought through the Park Conservancy (and give you early admission)? I can’t remember whether I bought through the Amex pre-sale or the conservancy.

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Valerie

August 14th, 2009
9:35 pm

I was wondering the same thing, Sharon…does anyone know if there will be vegetarian food vendors there?

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Hope

August 14th, 2009
10:22 pm

My Dad braved an Atlanta Stadium full of screaming Beatles fans to take me to the August 1965 concert for my birthday. A once-in-a-lifetime memory from one of the first “Cool Dads” !!!!! 44 years later – we’ll be sharing my birthday this Thursday – and this memory always comes up! Thanks, Daddy !!!

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doitallmom

August 14th, 2009
11:34 pm

HELP- I am wondering about ticket entrance times; early admission for conservancy & amex is at 4pm, general admission is at 5pm. I bought discounted tickets off craigslist but there is some confussion about the entrance times.
The guy that I bought these tickets from, said that entrance times had been changed around a bit. Can anyone tell me when the REAL admission times are and how to tell if you have that actual ticket in hand because so many of us purchased them through a third person broker. Thanks!!!!

We are also bringing our teenage kids with us. One who has no idea of who Sir Paul is and doesn’t care for the Beatles And our other child who doesn’t show interest in most music, is a fan of Paul McCartney and willing to pay for his own ticket and by the way already had a fav song before I asked him :) I can’t figure out my kids but we are in this together, attending a concert as a family. My husband & I are used to hearing our kids whine about all kinds of needless things. Tomorrow, they will have justifable cause and its our intention to give our standard answer of the day, ALL day long,”Just deal with it.” This is Paul McCartney, Dad & I really want to see and enjoy this concert and YOU are going to allow us to enjoy this concert”. These kids have been instructed to not bother us unless they are truly in dire need of medical attention- are you bleeding? Who died?
Is the house on fire? So we are going to have fun and our kids are not allowed to ruin it; no matter how unentertained they find themselves. Good bless, smile and enjoy it. If not, good bless, smile, deal w/ it and complain to your therapist when you get home. We are planning a happy day.

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JJp

August 14th, 2009
11:43 pm

At what time are you guys planning to line up?? Do you think that a “Flip Mino Camcorded” is allowed? it’s the same size of a point and shoot camera.

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Sharon

August 15th, 2009
12:07 am

Sorry, did not see this til now – I called Conservancy & exactly one veg food vendor will be there. I guess 1 is better than 0!

Personally, I would not try taking the camcorder.

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Jon

August 15th, 2009
12:06 pm

When gates open, will it be a mad dash for the seats, or is there some order (lines, etc.). I have regular (non-Presale). How early should I get there to avoid seeing Paul as a little ant on stage. Thanks, guys!!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 15th, 2009
2:12 pm

Awww, Hope! That’s adorable. Happy birthday!

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Buckhead Family

August 15th, 2009
5:04 pm

FINALLY…. I live in the north Buckhead area by Chastain Park and its the perfect setting for a Fine Arts Festival. I’ve also been to the markets at Atlantic Station and Virgina Highlands,, and I LOVE THEM, all the great cities have little markets like that, and knowing that these guys are behind it..well frankly makes sense. I often go down to Atlantic Station with my girlfriend for lunch and walk around. Its great that people in our community are investing back in our community. I’m going,, and I’m telling as many of my neighbors as I can,, even thou I would love for it to be my little secret. GOOD LUCK!

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ATLANTA ARTIST

August 15th, 2009
5:06 pm

As an Artist..I LOVE IT… is it too late to sign up?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 15th, 2009
6:22 pm

Atlanta Artist: the deadline to apply was July 4, but check out the festival Web site linked above. The organizers may well have some other opportunities, given all the other markets they run. Thanks for reading!

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Leona's Girls

August 15th, 2009
7:32 pm

We brought staduim seats with no arms and legs, but there was metal in them so they took them at the VIP area. Yet, we’ve seen tons of our exact seat on the field.Go figure. Glad we could support Piedmont – we love Piedmont!! – but the VIP area is awash in complaints. We may just move to the field. Folks are having more fun there.:) If are in VIP and looking for different food cross over and go to the back of the field. We brought a pizza back from there.

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Hope

August 15th, 2009
10:28 pm

Thanks so much Jamie !!! :-) A very special memory – and a very special Dad !!!!!

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Jeff

August 15th, 2009
11:41 pm

Didn’t get to go but enjoyed the pictures. Did he perform Say, Say, Say?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 16th, 2009
12:18 am

Most of the set list seems to have wound up here: http://twitter.com/peachbuzz

No sign of “Say Say Say,” but perhaps will see a more definitive list soon?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 16th, 2009
12:20 am

Oh, crud. Sorry about that, Leona’s Girls. Sorry your seats didn’t make it in. :/ Would love to hear more about the experience — the good and the not-so-good — over on this entry: http://blogs.ajc.com/inside-access/2009/08/15/see-the-paul-mccartney-show-we-need-your-help/

I hope it turned out to be a mostly great, if damp, time!

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sk

August 16th, 2009
12:22 am

Mitchell

August 16th, 2009
12:49 am

I’m about as big a Paul McCartney and Beatles fan as there is in Atlanta but I didn’t go to the concert. None of my friends, no one I even know for that matter, are Beatle fans or had any interest in going. I tried to find anybody I knew who might have been attending but not a one.

I wasn’t really about to go by myself.

Anyway, around 10:15 or so I saw a report on Fox 5 from the concert saying that it would go on until about 11 or 11:30. I eventually decided to drive down to the Ansley area. I got to Piedmont and Monroe, pulled into the parking lot and heard the last couple measures of the guitar solos from The End in my car with the window rolled down.

Just as Paul would have wanted it I’m sure, idling in a parking lot for five minutes.

I’m glad I did it though. My timing was, all things considered, pretty good.

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Lou

August 16th, 2009
12:51 am

I have seen Paul McCartney the last three times he was here and this to me wasn’t his best show. He was very good, but there were times the show seemed to be in a real lull. At one point, the woman behind me yelled play something we know. Cant believe some of the song choices. I realize he cant do every hit he has had but how bout…All my lovin, cant buy me love, i wanna hold your hand, Help, She Loves you…How do you leave these out and put in Flaming Pie, Only Mama Knows, Mrs Vandebilt and Calico Skies…. Still a good show but nowhere near his best

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BB

August 16th, 2009
1:03 am

All in all a great show. I did find that since the crowd was of an older generation, they were somewhat testy with each other as they couldn’t take the heat(before the rain) nor could they get their bodies around as easy as the more agile folks. And they complained because people were standing. They must not remember being 20. Vendors were great, not too few or too many. Could have used more porto potties. And designated pathways to get to the potties and vendors. People making their own paths got old! But I had a blast in spite of them.

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Mark in mid-town

August 16th, 2009
1:15 am

I thought the McCartney show tonight was fantastic. The sound system was probably the best I’ve ever heard. It was a show full of nostalgia, but it wasn’t entirely nostalgic. McCartney played a substantial number of newer songs, all of which were quite good. Unfortunately, some don’t like to be challenged whatsoever. That want to be spoon-fed nothing but the familiar. So kudos to McCartney for challenging the audience a bit. One of the new songs was called “Sing the Changes” and it’s near Beatles quality in my opinion.

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Joshua

August 16th, 2009
1:24 am

I just got back from the concert. I have to say that it was great. I was one of the youngest people there (15) which felt pretty good. My family and I were supposed to get in the ADA (Americans with disabilities) entrance for personal reasons other than actually having a disability. The security guard wouldn’t let us through, even though we’d already called someone who worked at Piedmont Park. This person called the head of Live Nation (the group that puts on all of Paul’s shows) and he said it was okay if we wen’t through. We were also told that there’d be free water once we got in, but once again, that wasn’t the case. I was one of the lucky people that got to take advantage of the presale, but unfortionatly, it was so disorganized that everyone got in at the same time. There was only one entrance, which was crazy. In the 6 hours I spent waiting there, and the time that Paul was performing, I must have second hand smoked 3 packs of cigarettes, and countless doses of marijuana. The guy standing next to me was blowing smoke in my face the whole time. That said, it actually was a fantastic concert. The rain started pouring during “Blackbird,” and got even stronger during “Here Today,” but really, I thought it just added to the moment. I was willing to sit through the pouring rain to see Paul McCartney. When Paul started playing “I’ve got a feeling,” my mother inquired as to whether that was one of my favorite songs (she asked because I’d mentioned it before). I replied that it was my favorite, at which point, the guy next to me said “Mine too.” I didn’t know weather to hug him or to punch him (for blowing his smoke in my face), so I compromised and didn’t do anything. Paul played some great songs. It was nice to hear him change it up. Lou is obviously a fan of the early Beatles. Paul’s had other good stuff since then. I think that the biggest disapointment was that Paul didn’t play “Maybe I’m Amazed.” Too bad.

And no, Mitchell. I’m the biggest Paul/Beatles fan in Atlanta.

Also, yesterday I unintentionaly met Rusty Anderson in Guitar Center. I was returning a defective bass and the guy at the counter said “Hey, you know that Rusty Anderson’s in the next room.” I was in disbelief and asked him to repeat that several times. Finally, I walked in there. I just kind of stared at him for 5 minutes. He probably thought I was deranged. Eventually, I worked up the courage to ask him for an autograph, which he game me. This has been the best weekend of my life!

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Brett

August 16th, 2009
2:08 am

Lou: maybe because McCartney still has a vital solo career and his recent stuff is actually very good? If people in the crowd don’t know the newer stuff, that’s their loss. McCartney is more than a nostalgia act. If you want to hear all those songs, there are many great Beatles tribute acts around.

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Ryan

August 16th, 2009
3:43 am

Great show! My first time seeing Paul, and I really enjoyed it. The rain cooled everything off for sure. I was surprised that Paul mentioned Shea Stadium during his comments. Some people booed, so I guess he figured out that we’re all Braves fans. I liked the setlist, and was floored when they did Day In the Life into Give Peace a Chance. Definitely didn’t expect that. The fireworks during Live and Let Die were amazing. Great job Paul! I’ll go see you whenever I get the chance.

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Robbi

August 16th, 2009
3:50 am

This is my 3rd time seeing Paul, and it was absolutely fantastic. Im 23, so im rather young for a McCartney fan, but I grew up loving The Beatles! Im glad he added some songs he hasnt done in the previous couple of years, it was a good change. I think his voice was wonderful and his ability to entertain a crowd has not diminished at all over the years! I agree about the cigarette smoke and the weed at the park-it was pretty extensive. Not to mention the vendors were going through the crowd selling beer during “here today.” I missed a touching song that meant a lot to me because the guy was screaming “Who wants a cold beer” right in my ear. Good thing Ive heard Paul play it twice before.

Did anyone else have trouble with stadium chairs? On the Piedmont Park website they changed it to where Stadium chairs were allowed-they even had a picture of it on the site! As soon as we tried to get in, they told us they werent allowed! I think a lot of it was unorganized and going to the bathroom/getting refreshments was virtually impossible. You could barely get through without someone bitching at you for stepping on their blanket. Gosh, get a life!

But really, even with the rain, the show was fantastic. I enjoyed every minute of it and I PRAY that Paul will tour again!

Oh and I have to disagree-I think my twin sister and I are the biggest fans in Atlanta. But of course everyone thinks the same thing about themselves. You should see my Beatles tattoo?

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Robbi

August 16th, 2009
3:52 am

Oh, did anyone else hear Paul say that the Shea Stadium was 45 years ago? Its only 44 though, because it was in 1965. Oh well. Hes Sir Paul McCartney-he can say whatever he wants for all I care. I love that man!

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Paula Katalinich

August 16th, 2009
4:04 am

It was 1963, I was almost 10, and The Beatles came into my life and have been present ever since. My 29 year old daughter and her 30 year old boyfriend had family over for a ‘listening party’ from their home down the street from the Park. It started to rain and then lightning, we went inside and started talking. I stood up and said, I am going to the Park – I want to hear Paul! Katie and Mike said they wanted to go too, so we made a mad dash down the street to the Park. We walked in, no tickets, and enjoyed the concert from the sidelines! Best concert of my life! The Beatles have BEEN my life. Rain,Peace,Love, Family,My Life’s Music. Thank you LORD. Thank you Sir Paul .

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Kat

August 16th, 2009
4:13 am

A living legend just rocked the house tonight in Piedmont Park! Paul was AMAZING! He looked great, his band was awesome, the stage was incredible. I thought the crowd was one of the best I have been in – no one was complaining around us, the lines weren’t too long (10 minutes or so), food was good, beer was cold, and the music blew me away. This was my 2nd Macca concert and by far the best of the two. Live and Let Die was phenomenal and A Day in the Life into Give Peace a Chance was truly memorable. By far, even with the rain, crowded trains and long walks, the best concert I have ever been to! I will never forget it.

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David

August 16th, 2009
5:06 am

I’m sorry, but the first post made me laugh. A man with a massive catalog of stellar tunes and someone asks about “Say Say Say”? lol.

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Jeanne

August 16th, 2009
9:15 am

My first Paul McCartny concert and it was awesome! My husband and I were older than most of the people around us (57 & 61) but everyone was friendly. Food, beer, and port o potty lines weren’t bad at all, you just needed to scope things out and not be a lemming (go where everyone else goes). Marta was great except for the far too few North Springs trains. Overall fab experience, Paul is a great entertainer and still sooooo cute!

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Con

August 16th, 2009
9:30 am

Toyed with not going….live a few blocks away….close walking distance the deciding factor. Knew I would always regret being that close and not taking the opportunity to see Sir Paul. After all, he’s the first guy I ever had a crush on back in 1963. Other two sisters claimed John and George. Sorry Ringo.

Anywho, the concert was fantastic. Cool breeze…..a little water never hurt anybody. Great crowd even down to the triangle heads and the plastic cloud people. Amazing what will work in a rainstorm! Lots of happy people everywhere. Hubby and I able to relive a little of the “give peace a chance” era. It felt good to go back there. Wish everybody could have felt it. But back to the concert…top of the line, a-one, well done. A wonderful memory.

Thanks Sir Paul. Thank you so much. I’ll still always regret you didn’t marry me. :) :) :) (I was only 8 at the time so you’re forgiven!)

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T

August 16th, 2009
10:10 am

Sat out in the heat for 5 hours but totally worth it!! Sir Paul put on an awesome show!!

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Deimos

August 16th, 2009
10:12 am

The performances were great. I was not familiar with the Script before the concert, but the band put on a great show. McCartney was awesome. Highlights: Something as tribute to George Harrison, Blackbird (in the rain), Back in the USSR, and Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Heart Club Band.

I have never experienced a more disorganized entry into a concert. As mentioned above, the promised early entry did not happen. Police and volunteers gave conflicting instructions. People who walked up got in before people who had been line for hours.

The crowd ranged from very friendly to a voluntary manslaughter case waiting to happen. Some apparently didn’t hear the word “green”: trash covered the ground.

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Leona's Girls

August 16th, 2009
10:15 am

So I bought VIP tickets to support the cause – love Piedmont!! – with the side benefit of what I thought would be a little less chaotic journey as I was traveling solo with kids under 15. It was a trip – if you want a play book of how not to treat your donors… VIP entrance far, far away from main hotels; disorganized, long line that had limited staff; they took our armless, legless stadium seats because there was some metal in the support – boo; by the time we got in the field was 1/4 full, so those who anticipated early entry to get a field seat would have been better off going through the main entrance; food and drink were “free,” but the food choices were limited; only one vendor area and the line was always long; and by the time we got around 5 there were few seats left in the VIP area that were not obstructed by trees. What all this did was get folks complaining to the point that it was taking away from our good day. It was a trip and really borderline punishment to be in the VIP area. What were those good Conservency folks thinking?

But on the subject of good… with my sweet kids surrounded by endless voices of digruntled adults,however justified those adults were, we decided to use Piedmont Park for one of its favorites uses – walking! We crossed over to the field and found all the food!! The kids did a dance for sweet tea and pizza! We then ditched that VIP hill again and trekked in the field entrance near the stage. Found a hand-squeezed lemonade booth – heaven – and a vendor line so short that we were able to have time to try on shirts before we bought them. And we loved that Irish band! But best of all, around 7:30 we just casually walked our way to within a few feet of the stage. No kidding! The kids were mesmerized and so was I. There was Sir Paul! And we danced and sang, with an incredible beach- like breeze blowing. And everyone around us was happy!! There are moments that occur in live that you never forget – and watching those kids laughing and singing Blackbird with Paul McCartney in the pouring rain, just feet from the stage, is one of those moments for me.

In the end, what paying 400 per ticket did was contribute to our beloved park, test our ability to say Let it Be, and utimately triggered us to embark on one of the most amazing concert adventures of our lives.

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Rebecca

August 16th, 2009
10:43 am

Following up Brett, Paul has been releasing solo records for 39 years now, maybe two of which were not top-forty hits, and maybe one of which (Press to Play) isn’t packed with fantastic songs. If you don’t know “Mrs Vandebilt,” the album’s been out for better than three decades and has gone triple platinum. Maybe you should stop by Decatur CD or Criminal Records today and do a little catching up?

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Paul McJagger

August 16th, 2009
11:11 am

Not my all-time favorite concert but definitely a top lifetime memory for me. Been a Beatles fan for 45 years and have never seen Paul. Compared to the other bazilllion shows I’ve been to this crowd was pretty stiff where I was sitting (nothing a little Geritol can’t cure I suppose). Great set list; really liked the new stuff too! The rain was a minor annoyance but added to the experience. The sound was pretty clear, but I think the visuals could have been more psychedelic, given the era of the songs, the earthy “green” event and the fact that it’s the 40th anniversary of Woodstock. Sir Paul: what can you say about a legend! He was energetic, charming and his voice sounded strong and fresh. Of all of the songs for some reason I can’t get Drive My Car out of my head. Finishing up with Sgt. Peppers/The End was perfect! Thanks Paul for all of your talent and music over the years! What a great night for the Park, the city and me!

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Angie

August 16th, 2009
11:17 am

There were many angry folks who had bought their tickets at pre-sale and had thought they were getting in an hour before general admission. My family wasted hours walking around trying to locate an entry for the pre-sale tickets. The AJC had a map of the park on Aug.7 plainly stating that gates will now open at 4pm for VIP and park pre-sale tickets. There was even a map showing a separate entrance for VIP/patron. There was a line for VIP but nothing for pre-sale. Park officials just kept telling us that there was only one entry time for everyone now, 4pm. We walked back down to the main entrance to find a small crowd of disgruntled pre-sale ticket holders complaining loudly about the park entry changes. The VIP ticket holders I talked to were also not happy that they spent $400 on a ticket that would gain them entrance the same time as general admission. A last minute effort by park officials at 4pm to appease the complaining pre-entry ticket crowd let those holders who happened to be standing at the gate skip the long general admission line and enter in a separate line along with all the general admission at 4. Needless to say we were so frustrated by the time we entered the park but hours later when Paul took the stage we were in heaven! We have been fortunate to see Paul seven times beginning in 1976 with Wings and were amazed at the age of 67 he still has the same vigor and love for entertaining as the young man we first saw in his early thirties. A comment for Lou…you may not have liked some of the songs selected to play but remember everybody has there favs and Calico Skies happens to be one of ours. It brought tears to my 27 year old daughter’s eyes! We love you Paul and God bless you! Hope we have the good fortune to spend and evening with you again someday.

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LJ

August 16th, 2009
11:28 am

I can’t add anything to the comments above, other than it was my first show, loved it, and it was an awesome first concert experience for my 13 year old son, who was blown away by it. A great bonding experience!
My biggest negative: the exit plan, or lack thereof. How did they expect 40,000 people to exit at one time through the same 3 narrow gates that took hours for them to enter? It freaked me out to be caught in the massive jam of humanity. Other exits should have been opened, gates/fences taken down, ANYTHING, to let the people free!!

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Tara- biggest beatles fan

August 16th, 2009
11:30 am

I think that concert was the best night of my life… And I don’t think I’ll have one that’s better! I’m saying that and I’m only 11. Apart from John Lennon, I don’t think anyone could compare to Paul McCartney’s shows- not that I know what John Lennon would be like, but he’s still my favorite. I think the best part of the concert was when he sang Live and Let Die. That was amazing! I hope I’ll get a chance to see him again! :-)

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Eric

August 16th, 2009
11:36 am

First Paul McCartney concert I ahve ever been to, and I definatley would go again. I am a little behind on his new releases but they were all good. Paul was fantastic. “Live and let die”, and “Something” were awsome. “I saw her standing there” was great, and “Jet” and “Band on the run” were killer. As far as Paul goes he was great, awsome act, definatly in my top 10 concerts that I have ever seen and would glady go again. I’m 40 and have listened to the beatles and Paul most of my life. My friends had always said he was great to go see and he was. :)

Now as far as the Green thing, it was a chinese fire drill, I have been to 2 other concerts at Piedmont park, The Black Crowes and Jefferson Starship, those were free concerts and the way they set the stage up I thought was it was smart where they put it on the opposite side. Getting into the event, we bought pre-buy tickets, it didn’t matter they were letting people in period. Whats the point of pre-buying? Walking around between everybodys blankets was like a version of “Human Tetris”, if you got drunk you were screwed. The rain sucked but oh well, it happens in outdoor concerts, it cooled people off more than anything. As far as being a green concert, I gurantee there will be garbage there the next day, how may trash containers they had was very few. They could have set it up better with lanes for people to walk in and some garbage cans. As another poster said, bathrooms and vending wasn’t that bad if you didn’t go to where everybody else went. There was ciggerette and Pot smoke, didn’t bother me but alot of people it did.

One thing that wasn’t that bad. Marta, they acttually had their act together was very controlled.

Lastly I have been to those Piedmont shows and midtown music festival several times. I really don’t think I’m going to go to another outdoor show, I like indoor shows, the seats and all. :) I think outdoor shows are really a younger persons thing like Bonnaroo, i would love to go but I don’t want to be outdoors the whole show, standing room only. My feet were killing me. :(

I hope if Paul McCartney comes again that he will play at the Ga Dome or Phillips arena, i will be there in a second. I have no complaints on Sir Paul he was fantastic, on Piedmont park, ya’ll need to think about this a little harder before you do it again.

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MIchaelM

August 16th, 2009
11:41 am

Sir Paul’s performance was a shining highlight to a day of disorganization and mahem. It would be difficult to find more ways to make this a poor experience for the concertgoer. From the rude vendors (25 minutes in a line for wine, while the “lady” in the beer tent next door was selling it to her friends without a wait) to the bizarre setup (sticking vendors in the middle of the audience to block as much of the view as possible,) this was a lesson in how to infuriate your patrons.
Hopefully, the Conservancy raised enough money from this concert so they can erect a wall around the entire park. That would help keep out all those pesky people who want to go walk on their beloved grass. How about a glassed-in observation room so that you can see the grass without really touching it?

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World Be Free

August 16th, 2009
11:52 am

Maybe the best concert I have ever seen in 35 years. Why? McCartney/Beatles’ songs are the songs of 2 generations. Most of his tunes are so familiar, we have heard them a thousand times minimum.

McCratney’s dialogue was great. Unlike John, he never really takes himself too seriously outside the music. GREAT reference to George Harrison and Paul’s version of “Something”. I got chills during A Day In The Life when they broke into “Give Peace A Chance”. Hey Jude, Back in the USSR, Get Back, Live and Let Die (awesome!) the list goes on. I felt my life flashing before my eyes. Paul sounded great, he was so enthused about being there and playing his wide range of tunes. And he did them so well.

67 years old, almost 3 hours without a break-except for waiting for his 2 encores. Incredible. Scratch another thing off my bucket list!

Note to Paul-thanks for not playing Say, Say, Say and Let ‘em In.

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martin

August 16th, 2009
12:15 pm

Living in midtown a block from the park a group of us went. We did everything midtown, coctail party at a home on Myrtel, strolled to concert around 7:30 after a quick drink at Blakes when all the burb’s crowd were safley inside the park. Found a great spot on the hill,near a bar and had an evening that a lifetime of memories are made of. Atlanta and Piedmont Park were so lucky to have this concert. Outdoor park concerts such as this put us on the map as a world class city and concert venue. If this had been in the Dome, it would of been just another mediocre concert up there with Brittney and Blue Man Group. Of course he is going to play new music also, anyone going thinking they were to hear a Beattles set all night, well, I pity them. I am glad to of been a part of Atlanta history last night and thank the PPC for bringing this event to our great city and thrilled this concert closes the gap on the 52 acre park expansion, that we will all be able to enjoy in the future!

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Angie

August 16th, 2009
12:16 pm

Have to add that I would not like to see McCartney at an outdoor venue again. I actually know of several people that did not come because the venue was Piedmont Park. Who ever thought an outdoor concert in Atlanta in the middle of hot as hell August must be crazy!

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Casey

August 16th, 2009
12:41 pm

What a great concert. Went with my sister and a friend. What a great trip down memory lane. My sister saw the Beatles at the old Atlanta Stadium and still has her ticket so I think she may qualify as one of the biggest fans. She has every single album they made framed and hanging on the wall. Paul is just as cute now as he was in 1964.

The music set was good and yes I enjoyed his new music. You have to expect that he would want to introduce new things. Even Jimmy Buffet does that. I found it somewhat strange that there were tons of beer and wine vendors but the food was far, far away. As for checking for cameras, food being brought in, lawn chairs, etc. the security failed miserably. Everyone had their cameras. I saw sandwiches from Publix and other food items obviously not bought inside the venue. I also wondered about the pre-ticket entrance but honestly we had such a great view it didn’t matter. Lots of pot and cigarettes which surprised me. Parked in Ansley Park at a friend’s house and walked in thru the Botanical Garden’s back entrance saved us about 1/2 mile of walking. Overall, a great evening with a living legend. Aside from sore legs from standing for 4 plus hours and being soaked, I would rate this as one of the best concerts I have seen and I have been to many concerts throughout the years.

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Clarke Harwood

August 16th, 2009
12:47 pm

Angie, simply put, you are an idiot. I could go through your posts, line by line, and point all the truly stupid and inaccurate things you said. But, I’m not going to do that. Instead, I’m just going to say that any confusion and discomfort you experienced were of your own making. Learn to read, learn to process information, and then learn to apply it, as any moderately intelligent human being can. I went to the concert (my second @PP and 4th time to see McCartney), and the only moderately unpleasant aspect was the rain, which is an Act of God.

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Lovely Rita

August 16th, 2009
12:53 pm

GREAT show. GREAT music. In my opinion, Paul made up for the rainstorm by playing a really long show full of great song choices. I was especially happy to hear Something (on ukelele), Eleanor Rigby, Got to Get You Into My Life, Hey Jude, Let it Be, and gosh- just SOOO many other wonderful Beatles tunes I feel privileged to have had the opportunity to see played live. My first Paul show, and Im SO glad i went! It was awesome… and the rain was very ironic to me since it was the 40th anniversary of woodstock, i almost felt like it was fated. :) It was actually kinda nice…

Not-so great food selection for vegetarians/vegans which was pretty disappointing considering Paul is a vegetarian himself… (we waited 2 hours for a falalfel pita and then they ran out on us – also the veggies were cooked on same grill as meat – which personally i think is yucky!). Hopefully in the future, we will see more veggie choices at EVERY concert… especially ones promoting green living.
Also, being a green concert, i was surprised at the amount of trash, although, I have to say, there werent ANY trash/recycling cans on the field to use… but i figure with the amount of volunteers they had, MAYBE they did that on purpose to avoid trash and recyling getting mixed together… I mean, lets face it, when a bunch of drunk people are having a good time (seeing PAUL McCARTNEY for cryin out loud), they may not read whats on the can (trash vs. recycling) – the volunteers had quite a back breaking job of picking up smashed beer cans for a few hours after the show! Maybe that was the plan… IM just glad i didnt bring a blanket to have to carry around after it was trampled and soaked after the rain!

That being said, I had a fabulous time. it was a great show and I LOVE YOU DEARLY PAUL! THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!!! I hope i get the opportunity to see you again. Rain OR shine.

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9 year old Beatle fan

August 16th, 2009
12:54 pm

I’m 9 years old and I love the Beatles! Paul is my favoite. My favorite song is “I Saw Her Standing There.” I did have to wait for a while in the sun, but it was worth it. I love the Beatles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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World Be Free

August 16th, 2009
12:55 pm

Can’t see how a true concert goer could find anything wrong with last night’s event. Rain? I needed a bath anyway.

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Robin Durham

August 16th, 2009
12:58 pm

Drove from Birmingham,Alabama to see Paul McCartney for the first time ever, and we enjoyed every second. Ages in our group ranged from 24-56. Of course ther were songs I would have loved to hear, but honestly, there just wouldn’t have been enough time to to satisfy all…just too many great songs out there. There will always be people that will search for and focus on the negative details (glass 1/2 empty vs 1/2 full), but the truth is, IT WAS A FANTASTIC CONCERT. Paul had a wonderful sense of humor, told some great stories, gave tribute to Jimmy Hendrix/anniversary of woodstock, the fireworks were awsome, AND came back for 3 encores! The atmosphere was suitable for all ages – no raunchy jokes or filthy language – just great music.He was a true gentleman!

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Angie

August 16th, 2009
1:08 pm

Clarke, any moderately intelligent human being can go to the Aug.7th Atlanta Journal, page D6, and read what was advertised for the entry into this concert….there is no confusion. By the way, intelligent people don’t resort to name-calling. I will not waste anymore time on your post.

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Longtime Fan

August 16th, 2009
1:17 pm

What a fab-ulous experience! Yes, it was hot, but that is Georgia in August! I am 56 and I was able to handle the heat and the crowds! The fact that this was an outdoor concert added to the mood and the magic. My one teensy distress was that we did “follow the rules” and wait in the long line to get in the gate, and then saw others just walking up the street and walking in.

I will always remember singing “Hey Jude” and the segue from “Day in the Life” into “Give Peace a Chance”gave the experience a little of the Woodstock vibe (along with the rain!). I am so glad I went to this concert!

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DH

August 16th, 2009
1:21 pm

Great music, and I had great company as always (my gorgeous girlfriend). But this was by far the worst concert venue ever and it was hard to let it overshadow enjoyment of the music. Waiting more than 4 hours in the blazing sun on a blanket for PM was about as fun as that description reads – it really sucked. Drunk morons next to us who thought their dance floor included every blade of grass they could reach whether there was anyone (like us) already in place or not. Lots of bad information from this blog about when gates opened, what you couldn’t bring in (saw plenty of stadium seats with arms that this blog said were prohibited) and getting there. Wish I’d paid heed to the comments left on one of this blogs earlier posts warning what a bad concert venue Piedmont Park is. And, of course, it rained during PM’s performance, couldn’t have come hours earlier when it could’ve helped with the heat. Script sucked, too. All in all, you couldn’t pay me to go to another outdoor concert especially at Piedmont. The homage to “green” was more classic liberal BS – the trash that was left by this “environmentally-friendly” crowd was appalling and disgusting.

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Eric

August 16th, 2009
1:22 pm

I am surprised, that people seem to be surprised that there were cigarettes & pot being smoked. Thanks for the good buzz! I thought the show was very well organized. Never had to wait to get a beer, and the lines for the portopotties were reasonable. Even everyone in line for the pottys were singing and dancing and having a great time.

I hope Piedmont Park makes this an annual tradition of having a major concert in the park. How about the Stones next year!

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Sharon

August 16th, 2009
1:29 pm

Probably the best McCartney show I’ve seen – I think this was my 6th one. A range of music from Beatles to Wings to Fireman – band has really gelled after playing together for several years. Loved the fireworks! They can’t do that in Phillips… so yes, it was worth the unorganized staff, ATL PD giving out different info from the volunteers/staff, the not getting in @ 4 if u had presale, the people who got territorial about their blankies, the couple who got directly in front of me, the people who unknowingly dumped their tarp water on my feet, & the people who got there to wait “@ 7 am” & yelled “Go to the end of the line!” like a deranged mob & cheered as the dejected people who had been directed by APD to “another gate” @ the opposite end of the Park had to walk all the way back to Charles Allen again…. sorry about the run-on sentence there. All that being said, we had quite a show & I would go again! But only for Paul. I wouldn’t go through that for anyone else. Peace y’all.

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Clarke Harwood

August 16th, 2009
1:31 pm

Angie, any times and details of entry that were changed were well publicized, and notifications via telephone and email were sent out. Bottom line, dear, I knew EXCACTLY what and when was going on and you didn’t. I knew exactly where to enter and did so exactly when I wanted to. I guess you had an $80 ticket and wanted to be treated as if you paid $400. Try a little common sense, honey, and perhaps next time you won’t be so disappointed and whiny. You thought that was “hot”? I guess you didn’t attend the Allman Bros./DMB double-bill on Labor Day 2007. And, as for you ignorant people complaining about he didn’t play such & such, well (a) the Beatles have a large catalogue and (b) back in 1990, it was a big deal when he’d play even a couple of Beatles songs. Just be glad that he now embraces them in concert

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Alexandra

August 16th, 2009
1:34 pm

Total Disaster! Sir Paul, you are so out of touch with your fans!

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Sue

August 16th, 2009
1:39 pm

What a WONDERFUL evening. Thank you, Paul. I’ll never forget it!

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Jamie Turner

August 16th, 2009
1:43 pm

I loved seeing McCartney in Piedmont Park last night. As always, he was brilliant. I was particularly impressed with The Script who opened for him. In fact, I liked them so much, I blogged about them on the 60 Second Marketer website in a posting called “I have seen the future of Rock N Roll and its name is The Script.” Cool.

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Edward S

August 16th, 2009
2:21 pm

Easily the best concert I’ve experienced. I didn’t have any of the negative experiences that are on this blog. Heat?…um, August=hot weather. It was 100 in Chicago for Lollapolooza last week. This was the best weather you could hope for.

I loved the Piedmont Park venue too. The audio was perfect. We also read online that the entrance was at Ch Allen/10th Street. Guess what…that’s where we got in! We waited for an hour before the doors opened, but then dashed for a spot near the front (and well in front of the VIP seats). Kudos to the PPC and their VOLUNTEERS for doing the best they could and throwing a memorable concert.

Oh yeah…this ‘Paul McCartney’ seems to have some potential. Keep your eye on him. He might go places.

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Dave

August 16th, 2009
3:08 pm

Marta was surpisingly organized and full of police and felt safe. Not a big fan of walking miles to get to and from a venue however. They really need to approximate the time Paul was coming on since it ended up being 3.5 hours after the gates opened but then I suppose people would come in later and later . Rain sucked and was not a big fan of the newer songs. Wanted to hear more Wings songs like “Silly little love songs” but overall was good show seeing a living legend and someone who basically started it all with the Beatles.Liked the Hendrix stories etc… Food was decent and lines were not too bad.. people were cleaning garbage all thru the show. It seemed pretty coordinated.

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pentagon_cowboy

August 16th, 2009
3:54 pm

What a horrible experience I had at McCartney’s Piedmont Park concert. I am outraged at how poorly Piedmont Park and McCarthey’s producers handled the VIP section. I quickly scanned previously posted comments and saw some agreement with my experience.
I waited 45 years to see a Beatle, so I decided to splurge for the high-priced tickets for this once-in-a-lifetime event. After TicketMaster’s surcharge, shipping, handling, and taxes, my $400 tickets cost me $650 each. But hey, for that price I should get reserved seats close to the stage, and perhaps some special treatment. When I got to the Park, I found out that the seat number printed on my tickets meant nothing, and was told so by a surley park volunteer. The VIP section was a hill side about 1/4 mile from the stage with no seating. We had to find an empty patch of grass in the dirt to park our butts. I would have felt better if someone had just placed a gun in my face and demanded my money. Instead, I not only feel like a victum, but I also feel like a a chump for allowing myself to be ripped off. Please don’t waste your money on VIP tickets, the cheap seats are far better. For that matter, McCarthey sounds better on CD, so use the money to upgrade your system, buy the CD’s you don’t have and have a great time. I was at the Dallas TV Cast 30 year reunion, which became notorious for how poorly it was organized. This event was just as bad for the VIP section. No show producer or entertainer will ever again get one penny of my money, and I will never again set foot in Piedmont Park!!!

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Long Time Fan

August 16th, 2009
4:18 pm

This was a special treat for my wife (over 50) and my son (15). Not real impressed by the lack of organization by the promoters (conflicting entry time) and a few rude people who broke line. Not a big fan of the genral free for all admission venue but it did allow me the chance to purchase tickets at a reasonable price. Having said that, it was everything I had expected-I got to see a legend! To get to see someone who had so much influence over my generation is something I never expected to experience! the show was good, his set was fine (how could you pick what to play and please everyone out of such a long career?), sound was good and the park was a cool place to be for a concert. I know the concert had some warts but overall I would do it again.

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Judy D

August 16th, 2009
4:46 pm

This concert was grueling for Paul’s 60ish and not so agile fans. First of all the directions on getting in were horrendous and wrong! We walked from one end of the line, found out we needed to be at the other side of the park,and had to walk another very long way to get in that gate. As a matter of fact, my best friend ended up dehydrated and collapsed before getting into the gate and had to be hauled away by ambulance. She missed the concert, and Paul has been her idol since 1964. Sitting on the ground was terrible, old bones can’t take it, and I was miserably uncomfortable sitting there all those hours. The rain, altho nothing we could do about it, was dreadful, soaking wet all nite. The process of getting in was so poorly executed, and wrong information was given at every turn. Now Sir Paul, he was incredible, as always, and if it wasn’t him on stage I would have left. Next time, I’ll see him only in an airconditioned arena WITH SEATS

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Claudia

August 16th, 2009
4:57 pm

Paul was fantastic as usual. I wish everyone could have the opportunity to see him! I also want to thank the MARTA people for keeping things moving fast. The park organizers however should have done a better job and directed people into separate lines. Why advertise early entry when there is no attempt made for that to happen? Also, at one point the main line was detoured down a side street as if going to another gate and then made to loop back up on the opposite side of the road. This was a confusing mess and many people were simply crossing the road and breaking line and police officers were giving us conflicting stories on where to line up. I don’t blame the police however, it was just poor organization. Also, it would be helpful if the organizers had somehow mapped out at least a few paths for people going on and off the field for refreshments/bathrooms instead we got drunk people almost stepping on you (if you were sitting) or almost knocking you down if you were standing. Still despite all that and the rain it was a magical show and Paul still has IT after all these years.

Still despite all that and the rain it was a magical show!

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Beej

August 16th, 2009
7:29 pm

Paul put on one heck of a show…despite being in line and waiting for Paul for HOURS, I would do it all again to see his stellar performance. Ticketmaster and Piedmont Park on the other hand should be slapped for their performance.

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Jerry Wilhoite

August 16th, 2009
7:52 pm

The venue was wide-open, and it permitted large numbers of people to enjoy the experience. Paul and his band were great! The Script was also enjoyable to listen to! The only down-side to the whole experience was the mess that people left behind after the concert! There were enough beer cans, water bottles, and food containers to fill a semi trailer several times over. Perhaps the “green” concert was more about money than any environmental concerns!

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Rick Allen

August 16th, 2009
8:01 pm

As a visitor to Atlanta I think it was a great concert, Sir Paul was in fine voice and very giving and appreciative of the audience. Kudos to the overwhelmed staff and emergency workers who were always nice and professional. I knew the concert would be interesting when I read that it was the promoters biggest show. There was a complete lack of organization in waiting for entry and in the set up of the field with no access or exits for pedestrians or emergency personnel. There was however enough food, drink, and restrooms for all. Exactly how big was the attendance number and how much beer was consumed by the 30 to 40 thousand in attendance?

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R

August 16th, 2009
8:05 pm

To those of you who were not allowed to bring in your stadium seats, what, if any, provisions were made for you — did they hold on to your seats for you, and were you able to retrieve them after the concert?

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GoZon

August 16th, 2009
8:09 pm

I’ve got a feeling that I get back in my life every time the band is on the run, I was standing there (in Piedmont Park) as day tripper yeah, it was yesterday. Hey dude, I said, look at all the lonely people trying to live and let die, give peace a chance since I can’t buy me love, you don’t need to go back in the USSR nor pray Lady Madonna to drive my car, we are lonely hearts, kind of blackbirds in a state of helter skelter and I am just a paperback writer trying to get you into my life. The end.
Gracias Pablo.

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Thunderstruck

August 16th, 2009
8:24 pm

There was room for improvement concerning not having signage and more entry points to make it a smoother experience for the concertgoer. That being said, Piedmont Park itself turned out to be a beautiful space to host this event, with lush grass everywhere to plant one’s self for a few hours. I didn’t see any bare spots.

This was a concert for the ages. I saw Paul in Columbia, S.C. in 1993 and he was even better on 8/15/09. It simply defies imagination that a man Paul’s age could have as much energy as he did, playing so many songs without a break – a true Energizer Bunny he was. We experienced not only a fantastic show from THE legend of rock legends, but an astonishing display of human and vocal endurance. One got the sense that Paul played so many songs after the first encore because he wanted to pay the fans back for having been rained on. No spirits were dampened that I saw. The one song that most aptly summarized everyone’s mood was one of his more recent hits – “Dance Tonight” – a simple and catchy tune that lightened all moods despite the downpour then occurring.

What made the concert most special for me was that I was able to take my daughter, who hadn’t seen Paul live before. I sang Beatles love songs as lullabies to her when she was an infant and toddler, and she has grown up loving Beatles music. She was enthralled by Sir Paul and his music last night. This was in all likelihood a once-in-a-lifetime experience. The both of us will remember last night for the rest of our lives, and it is sure to be among our most cherished memories as we both grow older.

Beatles Forever.

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G8TR

August 16th, 2009
8:37 pm

Since people who complain probably post their views more than those who simply appreciated and enjoyed Sir Paul’s show, I want to thank the Piedmont Park Conservancy for bringing this tremendous inter-generational experience to our city. Had Paul played just another Philips Arena show, so many families who made memories in the Park together last night would have lost out. Obviously, the Park is not set up for every-day concert-going — and if you expected perfection you’re more than a little naive. This was truly a once-in-a-lifetime event for Atlantans and Beatles fans, and we owe the Conservancy and their volunteers gratitude for this event and everything else getting accomplished for our Park.

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Thunderstruck

August 16th, 2009
9:05 pm

Well said, G8TR. I echo G8TR’s thoughts and gratitude to all the volunteers who made last night possible.

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Ben

August 16th, 2009
9:44 pm

My wife and I made the trip from Ohio to see the show. This was my 8th McCartney show, her 4th. Well worth the trip, the entire thing was an adventure! From our first experience with MARTA (which turned out to be pretty good, when we’re back in town I would probably use MARTA again) to the experience with Piedmont and waiting in line since 11:30 to use our presale early entry tickets (haha, right?) to the most incredible performer and concert!

As for the show, what can I add that hasn’t already been said. The new material was incredible, love “Only Mama Knows” live! “I’m Down” was a great addition to the set, and one I did not expect to hear. And “Day Tripper?” All I can say is “WOW!!!”

I popped the big question to my wife at Paul’s concert in 2005, so this was a great chance for us to remember that night and had yet another special memory to our scrapbook of life together! (And Paul, if you read this … Melissa and I want to thank you for that great night in Detroit! And thank you again for reading my sign and making me get down infront of 20,000 people!)

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Sharon

August 16th, 2009
9:47 pm

I survived the concert last night, and lived to tell the story. Thank God for Paul McCartney. Only Paul McCartney could take a perfectly horrible misery marathon like Atlanta’s concert preparation, and still make you feel glad to be alive. The people in the Atlanta audience were fantastic, considering that a huge number of them received such lousy, inconsistent info, about the event that by the time Paul took the stage we were dehydrated, exhausted, sunburned, and broke. Paul still saved the day.

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Leigh Dinwiddie

August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm

I drove from Tennessee with my 18 year old daughter to see Paul McCartney and I would drive to Alaska to see him again!! I am 42 and have been a Beatles/PM fan as long as I can remember. This was the ultimate concert experience! What a magical night!! Thank you, thank you, thank you Sir Paul for beautiful music and beautiful you…

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 16th, 2009
10:12 pm

Looooove reading your comments and takes on the Paul McCartney shows. Definitely a diversity of opinions, although most of you seem pretty happy with how it turned out. :) A reminder: please keep it civil and push the conversation forward. I’ll be compiling some of these comments into a post on Monday, too!

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Achtung Ya'll

August 16th, 2009
11:09 pm

What a great show! There are words I am sure to express appropriately, however I don’t know what they are. For all the problems expressed, I did not see any, perhaps you all are just not experienced concert goers and lacking in navigational skills.

Being in my mid thirties I came to know and appreciate the Beatles about the same time as everything else that was popular at the time, U2, REM and The Cure. Very quickly I recognized how much these bands owed to the Beatles and McCartney especially. I have seen concerts all over the world. My job made this possible, but seeing the Macca in my hometown in our park again I don’t know the words. I was happy to see kids at this show, perhaps this show will be the beginning of their musical journey and what a way to start.

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Damon

August 17th, 2009
12:16 am

My my at the snobbery , you spent that much for tix and dashed expectations….get over your whiny ass selves! $80 bucks and we had a blast !

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James

August 17th, 2009
12:24 am

I have to agree with Pentagon Cowboy about how bad the VIP section and organization was but P.M. made me forget it all. It was a great show …. There could also have been more done to make it a true green event.

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Chris

August 17th, 2009
12:48 am

Had a blast at the McCartney show. We flew down to Atlanta from Rock Island, Illinois. It’s part of the Quad Cities, which includes Moline, IL – home of John Deere, for reference. Anyway, my wife and I were the ones about 8 rows back that had the sign that read “BABY’S FIRST MCCARTNEY SHOW – DUE FEBRUARY 10TH” that he read during the concert! It was a surreal experience. He read the sign and then commented, wondering if the baby could hear the music because “they say that they can”. He then strummed a few notes and did a little opera singing as a joke. It’s something we’ll never forget!!! I could tell that he had read the sign a few songs earlier. He made eye contact with us and nodded and smiled. Then, at the end of the concert he referenced our baby again during his goodbye’s and did a little baby holding motion! Finally, as he exited the stage I was thinking about throwing the little Beatles onesie we’d bought onto stage, but there were some pyrotechnics going off. He looked back at my wife and I and gave us both a big thumbs up. Truely a remarkable experience! If anyone knows of any bootleg of the audio or even better, the video of the concert please let me know!! Does any think Piedmont will make a video of the concert similar to what Dave Matthews did a couple years ago?

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M.E.

August 17th, 2009
1:25 am

Fantastic Show! Drove down with my 21 year old from St. Louis, who is a huge Paul McCartney fan. We were not disappointed. We had no idea where/what Piedmont Park was, but did some checking before purchasing tickets. If you had researched the park on the website, you should have known what the $400 tickets were going to get you – up on the hill – with the stage clearly marked. Buyer beware – do your research. We bought the cheapest tickets, waited in line from 1:00 on, (only because there were already people there & my daughter wanted to get the “best spot”) and once we got in, we made it close to the stage. We knew in advance what to expect. The money we saved from the VIP tickets we spent on a hotel within walking distance(actually less than $400 for two nights). The park was wonderful – the music great, and the rain just made for some fantastic memories. It was all worth it to see my daughter’s excitement and we can’t believe that Paul sang for as long as he did. Also, we didn’t mind sharing our blanket with strangers who just walked in at 7:00 pm. We had room. Could things have been done better- hey, I’ve been volunteering in the school system for over twenty years, and have learned there is a system for getting things done, but, they didn’t ask me. I was there for the show and they certainly put on a great one. The volunteers did the best they could, all were friendly – they just needed a few hundred more! Hats off to the “Vitamin Water” people – they saved us from dehydrating in the line.

Has there been an “official” count on the number of spectators?

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a1agator

August 17th, 2009
3:14 am

I like it that the general tone to the comments is ’so what – it was Paul McCartney’. Yes, it was disorganized, hot and it rained. Who cares? I went in with no expectations and found the back entrance by chance. Got in line at 3:56 – they let us in 4 minutes later. WooooooHoooooo.Stood about 10 feet in front of the mixing board – perfect! I think they call what happened to me and my friend “Instant Karma”. Great awesome incredible show. Thanks JPM.

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Alexandra

August 17th, 2009
9:42 am

Access Atlanta,

I have always been one to tell it like is! Here is what the Sir Paul concert was like. We had to drive a long distance to get to Marta, then we had to wait in line to buy tickets at Marta, then we had to wait for the train, then we had a ride on the train to down town. After we got off of the train we had to walk about a half mile to stand in line in the blazing hot sun for a couple of hours before we got in. Then we stood up for six hours in the hot sun before the first horrible band played. I now have a wonderful sunburn! Then after the first band played Sir Paul had us waiting a whole hour before he finally came out to play. By the time he came out there were so many drunk people throwing up etc. It was so impossible to even see the screens it became a complete waste of the day.
Sir Paul, you have lost total touch with your fans, that was the concert from hell! Sir Paul, you made my dream turn into a nightmare. I was Sir Pauls number one fan, but after this there is no way I would ever go to see him again if this is the way he treats his fans. After what we had to go through for hours I learned a lesson not to do it again! Sir Paul, I think it is now time to put the guitar pic away and enjoy your retirement!

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kenny smith

August 17th, 2009
9:50 am

i was the fortunate winner of the ajc contest wow what a great night.
thanks ajc Sir Paul was awesome and the park was beautiful.

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Aaron

August 17th, 2009
10:02 am

Alexandra, if you expected VIP treatment, you should have purchased a VIP ticket. I was on my feet a total of 12 hours without sitting down that day, but it was totally worth it. You waited in line for 2 hours? Big deal. My wife and I were there near the gate at 11 a.m. and managed to get right up to the stage when the gates opened — many people camped out the night before, I was told. These are the true fans, unlike those who write off a musician just because things didn’t go your way that day. And I guess you never took public transportation before, eh? Yes, you have (gasp) stand in line, especially when you take your sweet time to get to the concert. Wake up; there were 40,000 people at this concert. What did you think it would be like?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 17th, 2009
10:04 am

Aww, Kenny, that’s great! Thanks for letting us know. Congratulations! Glad it was great. :)

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Guy

August 17th, 2009
10:08 am

Paul was great, but we should be getting some refunding from the Park/Ticketmaster. We paid a lot of money for VIP which was suppose to include admission to the park one hour earlier than everyone else. Everyone was confused and didn’t know where to go (especially VIPs) when the gates opened for all. There also were no air conditioned bathrooms like were promised from what I saw. Isn’t this a breach of contract?

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Guy

August 17th, 2009
10:11 am

Looks like others had it worse though….

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Alexandra

August 17th, 2009
10:42 am

I was awake and the fact that they made all of those people wait in the hot sun is so unfair, in fact that as you say Aaron made it even worse. You wake up and smell the roses. No entertainer should treat their fans that way. next time you can go and do the same thing again, I fact be my guest if you are that dam dumb! You were probably one of the drunks and di not even pay attention to the concert when he was playing! you sound like one of the hilbillys from here that have never been anywhere else in the world or know how to treat other human beings! I have the right to express my experience just like anyone else! Get real, but better yet get a real life! Some of us do have lives and taking 12 hours from leaving the house to getting back home is almost impossible for those of us who do own businesses and have families. Our time needs to be respected just as Sir Pauls time is respected. Just because a person is an entertainer do not give him the right to put us all through hell just to see a flash of him on stage. by the way the VIP tickets were no different or anymore comfortable than the general admission tickets! Really Aaron, you should be ashamed of yourself!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 17th, 2009
10:46 am

Alexandra, Aaron: Clearly you’ve got different perspectives on how the concert went, and that’s probably not going to change, and that’s fine. But please keep your responses under control. This blog isn’t about name-calling, and certainly not about making assumptions about each other based on stereotypes. Keep your comments respectful. Thanks.

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Tracy

August 17th, 2009
10:54 am

Thank you Aaron… well said! Alexandra, maybe you should just stay home & NEVER go to a concert again! Give me a break! When there are 40,000 fans at a concert, you wait in line (for food, drinks, merchandise, restroom, etc.) – get over it! If you don’t like crowds, don’t buy a ticket! Poor you… waiting an hour until Paul came out. Uh, in case you’ve never been to a concert before, they need to set up in between bands. Hello! And how dare you blame Sir Paul McCartney for your bad experience. What does he have to do with the hot sun, long lines, MARTA, & drunk people?!? Seriously, do us all a favor & take a happy pill. ; )

P.S. I suggest sunscreen so you don’t get a sunburn & glasses so you can see the big screens. They were as big as a building. How could you not see them?? Please…

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Alexandra

August 17th, 2009
10:54 am

Thank You! You are soooooooooooo right! XOXO

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Alexandra

August 17th, 2009
10:56 am

Thanks for minding the ship! We did get carried away, but it was still hell at the concert! We appreciate being able to voice our feelings on Access Atlanta! TKS, Alexandra

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Tracy

August 17th, 2009
11:00 am

Sir Paul McCartney’s show is one of the best concerts I’ve ever seen! What amazing talent & energy! I’m thrilled to say that I’ve seen a Beatle live! We could have cared less about the rain. Ponchos from the dollar store worked just fine. The big screens & sound were great!! It was a night I’ll NEVER forget!! ; )

The only negative for me was seeing all of the trash on the grounds. It took me about 5 seconds to pick up our cans/water bottles & drop them off in a recycle bin.

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Goldie

August 17th, 2009
11:09 am

Absolutely loved Paul and his band — they were tight and energetic the whole evening!
Now, about the Piedmont Park Conservancy and its “Green Concert” — they receive a grade of about an “F-” for lack of security and crowd control, and lack of recycling bins and marked pathways throughout the meadow… they should have learned more from previous events that have been held at the Park in the past, especially regarding what it takes to accommodate a crowd of this size!

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Alexandra

August 17th, 2009
11:14 am

Tracy, I said I will not buy a ticket again! Do you honestly think Sir Paul knew nothing about how the concert was run? He created most of the Green concert. There is still no reason to wait an entire hour betwen bands, ( which pay for the tickets) are out there waiting! As Jamie Gumbrech said, we will not agree on the event. I do however have the right to tell it like I experienced the concert, being we live in a free country and have the right to do so. I was at the original Woodstock so I do know how concerts are. I have traveled all over the world and have been taking the transit for years. You have the right to go back and experience the concert the way you experienced and I have the right to not go which I will not be going again. We moved so many times just to try to see the screens on the sides but the crowd was so out of control after having six hours to get drunk we could not enjoy it. You have your rights and so do I. It is great to know there are some that had a great time. I was not one of them! Good luck to all of you who will be putting up with this type of treatment! After reading about the VIP tickets on here there was no difference between the general admission or VIP. Good wishes and good luck to all!

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Alexandra

August 17th, 2009
11:20 am

I am such a Beatles fan that I named my dog George Harrison, so as you can see I love Paul and have loved him for years but after this concert I changed my feeling about him. I felt he was like God, which no man is. I guess what it did was open my eye’s to reality!

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Beth

August 17th, 2009
12:05 pm

My husband and I, in our early 50’s, had a blast. We went in knowing the day would be long, hot and possibly wet. We made the best of it and with good food, drinks and plenty of people-watching it was not difficult. Paul gave the audience everything they wanted (BEATLES) and more. It was awesome to see the middle-agers and teenagers, even little ones, so excited, singing and chanting (”Give Peace a Chance”)…our only regret was not bringing our own teenagers.

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SchellingOutinATL

August 17th, 2009
12:17 pm

I completely agree with the complaints about the confusion regarding presale entry time and location and folks breaking line. My 7YO called a couple out about it and they shamefacedly retreated, but lots of others didn’t. (Could have used more volunteers to police that, I think.) Yes, it was hot (duh, it’s Atlanta in August) and, yes, it rained (ditto). But that just made it all the more Woodstock-y! Some of us were there, too. Perhaps in altered states of mind, but that’s another story. In any case my kids and husband and I had a GREAT time. Macca put on a fantastic show — sprinkled new with old, rock and mellower tunes. Definitely worth every penny and the relatively minor inconveniences. Thanks to the Conservancy for bringing him here and to such a fab venue.

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Brett

August 17th, 2009
12:28 pm

Alexandra, your series of posts is one of the most pathetic whinefests I’ve ever read. All of the things you complained about were either already announced beforehand or out of Paul’s control. He and his team had nothing to do with the way the park ran the concert. He was responsible for his performance and the production of his performance. That’s it. If your time was so precious perhaps you shouldn’t have bought a ticket in the first place. There were many people who waited in line since early in the morning, and they all seemed to have a blast.

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Steven

August 17th, 2009
12:34 pm

Alexandria, please shut the hell up. Best concert of my life and I think that Paul treated his fans great as in 3 encores. I saw no drunks, saw the screen very well, was in no lines at all except for the Marta ride afterwards and that was expected.

Thx to Peidmont park for putting on such a great show!!!!

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bajeha

August 17th, 2009
1:50 pm

Loved the concert — wow, what a show! — but not the logistics. Some failures I noted:

I saw no volunteers nor any directional signage for the concert when I exited the Midtown station at 2:00 PM. In fact, I rarely saw a volunteer the whole time. Funny, since as a Conservancy member I had offered to be one but had been turned down.

There was no designated line or gate for presale ticketholders. If there was one, it wasn’t publicized anywhere in advance nor created by volunteers on site. Most presales got stuck in the same long line as the later entries: A major mishandle that caused great animosity among those patrons. The few volunteers who passed by the blocks-long line on 10th had no knowledge to share or any apparent way to ask a question or get answers from someone in charge.

The no food or water ban was a serious health concern for the many older people who had arrived early for the presale entry and then had to stand in line a lot longer than expected in 90+ degree heat. Also, there was no way to handle a medical emergency created by those conditions except with a 911 call.

That same ban created a huge windfall for the food and drink vendors, provided you could get to them. Three dollars for one small bottle of water? That’s price gouging, people. (Where were the water fountains?) Even the kids selling them outside the park asked for just a buck. IMO the producer and food vendors should be fined for overcharging the captive audience for that necessity. In the future, bottled water prices inside the park should be set by the City for future concerts.

No aisles were created or maintained for emergency vehicles, security personnel or easy patron access to vendors and the toilets. IMO this was a major breach of public health and safety guidelines for such events. Suppose there had been a lightning strike during the rainstorm? (N.B. I sat right next to the Kaiser Permanente First Aid station, so I saw and heard about the difficulties people were having in getting there for help.)

Why didn’t the Conservancy present a short talk or program about its work and goals between the two acts? IMO it missed a golden opportunity in not doing that, and in not asking patrons to haul out their trash and/or place recyclables in designated receptacles after the concert was over. This was The Green Concert, right?.

IMO these logistical failures were caused by a lack of coordination and communcation between the organizations involved, both before the event and on the day. IMO an experienced large-event planner needs to be put in charge of each area to see that everything runs smoothly.between the professionals and the volunteers. Also, the Conservancy and its co-sponsors should recruit enough volunteers, provide advance training for them, and provide those at critical points with radios and bullhorns so they can ask questions and get answers in in real time, and handle crowd problems promptly. There also should be a central command center that can be called by other volunteers with their cell phones for informational Q&A.

I hope my comments will be read as constructive criticism that is intended to help make future concerts at Piedmont Park more pleasurable for everybody.

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RamblinRed

August 17th, 2009
2:15 pm

Alexandra,

I understand your frustration about some aspects of the concert performance, but at least some of your frustration is misplaced.
As mentioned above the 2 things McCartney and his management are in charge of are his performance and the staging. Everything else is the responsibility of the promoter (in this case Live Nation) and the venue (in this case the Piedmont Park Conservancy).

Most people I talked to actually had good experiences with MARTA (which surprised me somewhat). The whole ticket entry and waiting had 0 to do with McCartney and his team. This is the responsibility of Live Nation and Piedmont Park. Unfortunately a number of us were e-mailing/phoning Piedmont Park about the entry and were really concerned it was going to be a huge mess because they didn’t seem to have a plan to separate the early entry from the non-early entry tickets. Unfortuantely this turned out to be true.

I thought the Script was fine as an opening act – nothing special, but easy to listen to and didn’t overstay their welcome. McCartney took the stage 42 minutes after the Script finished (I was checking my time on my phone) this was actually slightly faster than previous shows. it takes about 45 minutes for the stage hands to remove The Script’s equipment, set up McCartney’s and test all the sound and lighting.

I was obviously closer up then you were as I was very close to the soundbooth. I will say there the people were largely very upbeat and enjoying themselves, even during the rain.

Also, don’t blame others for things that might not be their fault. if you got a sunburn – you should have used sunscreen – I did, i’m a redhead and did not get burned at all. I drank alot of water before the show knowing I would be out in the heat for hours. I had a poncho and a plastic tarp (that ended up with 15 people under it during the rain) for that possibility. knowing it was an outdoor concert you do have to prepare for it – and i’m not saying that you didn’t.

if you had problems with sound or lighting that would fall under McCartney’s team.
It’s disappointing to see someone have a bad experience and i hope your next one is better.

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FAB4FAN2416

August 17th, 2009
2:40 pm

I journeyed with my family: sister, husband, two daughters and my sister’s girlfriend to Atlanta, and despite the long trip, sitting on the grass and the painful walk to MARTA- we truly LOVED the show! It was such a thrill for me to experience Paul’s show with my teenaged daughters who have grown up listening to him since they were in the womb. My oldest daughter, Michelle, was so hoping to hear him sing “her song” to her, but alas, he could not cover every song in the Beatles, Wings, and his solo catalogues. If it were left up to the audience we would have kept him there singing for 24 hours straight.
I thought it was a beautiful night despite the rain. (Thank you, God, for no lightning.) Piedmont Park is a lovely place and I thought it was pretty well organized (as well as could be expected for 40,000+ fans.

For those of you who missed this concert (or did not enjoy it)I am sorry but it was one of the best nights of my life. All of the Beatles oldies and new Paul songs struck a good balance and Sir Paul is still spry and rock the house at 67. We love you Paul! You only get better with age!! The Murphy family

p.s. Kudos to MARTA for moving that huge crowd out of there quickly and efficiently!!

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cowo

August 17th, 2009
3:06 pm

Having loved Paul (and the rest of the Fab 4) for most of my life, and having seen Paul 18 times, both with the Beatles and after, missing a concert in ATL was not imaginable! The hours of standing and sitting on rock-hard ground have left me a mess only my Chiropractor may be able to fix up, but the alternative, missing the man who has made by far the greatest impression on my life for the last 45 years was unimaginable.

The small number of people who complained about the actual performance make me terribly sad. Paul has so much great music to pull from, he certainly wasn’t going to do only Beatles music. Paul is the greatest legend ever, and there will never be a greater performer, writer, person on this earth!

Wull love you forever Paul! Please come back (to an arena with seats, I hope!).

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Douglas McGirt

August 17th, 2009
4:50 pm

Awesome show!!! Paul amazes me by the mere fact he plays at such a high level at 67 years of age. I know at 67 i could never have his energy (LOL)!!!! His stage presence is incredible and has the best eye movements when singing than any artist on earth.

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JILL

August 17th, 2009
4:53 pm

This was my fourth time seeing Sir Paul. He is just such a great performer and a great musician. This concert was nothing but spectacular. I really enjoyed both Beatles and Wings music. The crowd was great. It rained for about 30 minutes which was good because it was over 90 in the heat.
The only bad thing was that ticketmaster ripped us off again. There was suppose to be early enterance for America Express/Mccartney fan club and conservitory members and the crowd got so big they let everybody in at once. Also, waiting in line was complete disorganized. We sat in line for hours and hours to be first at the stage and again the crowd got so big in front of the gates that people who only waited 15 minutes before the gates opened ran right in and never went to the end of the line. I was extremely angry about it. My friend and I still got a pretty good spot, we were very lucky I can run fast.

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Jay B

August 17th, 2009
6:20 pm

By far the best show I’ve ever seen. I’ve always enjoyed the music of the Beatles and McCartney but never was an avid fan. Half way through the show I thought to myself “now I understand”. What a performer. It’s like he was determined that everyone have a good time. Thought the sound was incredible. Great show!

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donna matheson

August 18th, 2009
7:22 am

Please tell me which weekend Bank of America customers get in free. Thank you

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Ripley

August 18th, 2009
8:00 am

I really don’t understand this woman and her comments. How could she expect anyone to control the sun or provide shade for the entrance line which was at least three quarters of a mile long.

FYI, this was my 16th time seeing Paul (Beatles three times) and I’m older now and knew my limitations so I arranged to arrive at 3:30, expecting to be no where near the stage. I waited in line for approx 1 hour and yes, it was very hot at times. But the line moved pretty well (except for the cheaters cutting in line)once the gate opened and when I got in the park I found a perfect place on the hill in the shade, right of the stage. If this woman was so hot, why didn’t she moved to the largely shaded hill on the right. The temp never got unpleasant under the shade. Now, I would have loved to be near the stage and this was the first MACCA concert EVER that I couldn’t see his pretty face up close, but I knew I’m not physically able to withstand the heat. This woman (if she was REALLY at Woodstock) is older than me so why didn’t she seek shade give way to the youngsters who don’t care about the heat? I could see the stage and the screens perfectly.

To say she is a huge fan and then blame Paul for the heat, the lines and the rain is absurd and she apparently has no understanding of the time required to set up his equipment. Oh, and the Irish band was fab – I loved three of the five songs they performed. MARTA ran great for the huge crowds, no problem there either. The only problem I had was the people staggering up the hill throughout the concert – the Conservancy should have created a couple of roped off passage ways so that we didn’t get continually stepped on.

Paul was great as usual and any problems with the venue were not of his doing. He looked fab, sounded beautiful and his energy is amazing for anyone, but especially for a 67 year old man. The fact that he donated his time for the concert seems to completely have gone over the head of this woman. He made no money and donated his time for a grat cause. Clearly he doesn’t need fans like this who claim to love him and then bad mouth him for things that were not within his control when she should be on her knees thanking him for being such a generous human and such a generous and brilliant performer.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 18th, 2009
9:10 am

Bank of America’s Museums on Us program allows customers in free on Sept. 5-6, Oct. 3-4, Nov. 7-8, Dec. 5-6, Jan. 2-3 and more 2010 dates they haven’t yet posted. You can find more info here: http://museums.bankofamerica.com/

That program gets you into the Fernbank Museum of Natural History, but not the IMAX movie. You can also get in to the High Museum of Art, Zoo Atlanta, Millennium Gate, the Atlanta Botanical Garden and the Atlanta History Center.

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OZZFEST

August 18th, 2009
10:11 am

Paul was amazing…totally killer and the night was a “once in a lifetime thrill”. Sadly, the Piedmont Park Conservancy botched the entire VIP process for everyone who paid $400. The Piedmont Park Conservancy advertised early admission for the VIP ticket. It took 30 minutes to get the first 500 people (I counted…I was about the 500th person in line.)through the “ONE TICKET TAKER” entrance on Monroe…while we could see hundreds of people streaming down the hill on the other side of the park at the St Charles entrance. My girlfriend was directly in front of Paul’s microphone about at 4:02…WHERE HE WAS STILL PERFORMING HIS SOUNDCHECK (IN PERSON)…and she paid $80 for a non-early admission ticket. Explain that one to me!! People in the VIP line were furious. Once inside the VIP area, I waited in a line of only 14 people (I counted.)for another 30 minutes to buy a t-shirt…the VIP area sold out of all XL shirts one hour after the gates opened…I had to go buy one in the general admission area. They had schwag beer…Bud, Bud Light, and Bud select…and they were lukewarm until after 7 or so meaning that that had not been properly iced down. In the end I must say not even the major downer caused by the clearly unprepared PPC could diminish the PAUL McCARTNEY experience. Paul is the pinnacle of music, their is none higher.

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Sue Rodman

August 18th, 2009
9:48 pm

Excellent! Thanks for the round up.

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David

August 19th, 2009
7:46 am

Will this “trust” become a partner in future profits? Or will the reconstruction donations primarily benefit Mr. Greene with only his word that he will do good in the community? While historic trusts are good for publically owned property, and commercial venues are good when maintained buy the business owner… non profit donations should not be made for the primary benefit of the commercial enterprise.

What kind of “open book” cooperation is there between the trust and Mr. Greene? How much insurance was there and how much is going in his pocket due to “lost business”?

Too many questions to just crack open my wallet to save a bit of nostalgia.

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Maybe, Maybe Not

August 19th, 2009
9:05 am

I agree with David. This was intended, prior to the fire, as a “for profit” venture. How has that changed, if so, and what happens to the operation going forward in terms of ownership, control, etc.. This is the same thing on the surface, if Burger King had a fire and the public contributed to the restoration. Too many questions yet.

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Wilmot

August 19th, 2009
9:09 am

The trust is to ensure the building gets saved. No private business could support the debt that it will take to rebuild to modern codes. The only two options are that we get help from the public via a nonprofit, or the Georgia Theatre goes away forever. Sounds like you prefer the latter David.

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Maybe, Maybe Not

August 19th, 2009
9:10 am

Let me clarify something. I feel this facility enjoyed some success as a venue for music. However, Athens if full of “venue’s for music”. I would be glad to help with the restoration, but do I give something small, or will I consider something of consequence?

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Full of It

August 19th, 2009
10:43 am

How about Wind Down Wednesday (Concert) at Centennial Park? Free Also.

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David

August 19th, 2009
11:45 am

To answer Wilmot … there are two choices to end up with a sole owner, the non profit buys the pile of ashes and rebuilds it and operates as a non profit OR the commercial entity foots the bill.

But for people to donate to a business with nothing in return except the fact that the building survives is preposterous.

If the business owner cannot do it, or was underinsured, that simply means his business has failed. Step aside if you can’t do it on your own.

If the trust wants to rebuild the building, sign the deed to the trust and the business owner can operate the business in a partnership deal.

The building has some nice history but for those that give will only be able to say “Hey I gave some good money so that guy could make a lot of money.”

What is the payoff for the donaters … in writing, other than “nice building, huh?”

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Dan

August 19th, 2009
12:30 pm

Paul was great, the stage was great, the sound was good.

My girlfriend and I walked in, without waiting, at about 6:30. We stood probably 100 feet from the stage. There needs to be a “no blankets past this point” rule enforced next time Piedmont tries something like this. I witnessed a few verbal altercations between people trying to walk and those who felt ENTITLED to all the room that their blankets covered. Give me a break.

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August 19th, 2009
1:54 pm

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2001

August 19th, 2009
1:58 pm

In response to David and “Maybe, Maybe Not,” people who donate to this cause can feel good about their donations on two fronts: (1) They’re contributing to the preservation of an historic building. I can’t remember the exact numbers, but I believe the Georgia Theatre building is over 100 years old; and (2) they’re helping to restore a bit of nostalgia from the many wonderful memories they may have formed through events and concerts they attended at the Georgia Theatre. With the Georgia Theatre partnering with the Georgia Trust for Historic Preservation, folks can now make tax deductible donations towards a legitmate philanthropic cause (See # 1 above). I think this is great, and I wish the Georgia Theatre and Wilmot Greene all the luck in the world.

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truth

August 19th, 2009
2:34 pm

Sorry David, but you are wrong. The payoff for the donators is that they get to live in a community with a Georgia Theatre. This is what people in Athens want, and they are the ones driving the fundraising. Your comment about ’so this guy could make a lot of money’ shows your lack of understanding of the situation. The owners will pay for the majority of the expense of rebuilding. The public is simply trying to help with the difference between what the business can make and what it will cost to rebuild. The public risks nothing except living in a town with less music if they don’t give. The numbers just don’t make sense for any type of ownership (profit or nonprofit) unless a big chunk is taken off the top via donations, and the public trusts the current owners, because of years of goodwill, to run the club in a manner that best represent the interests of the community. This is why we live in Athens! If they eventually make a profit,,, good for them!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 19th, 2009
2:38 pm

Hey folks: there are some good questions in this discussion. I just talked with Mark McDonald at the Georgia Trust, who explained more why they decided to partner with a for-profit group, how the Georgia Theatre fits into their non-profit mission and how the arrangement works. Thanks for reading!

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David

August 19th, 2009
3:24 pm

To those claiming it will save an old building … once the building is burned and gutted any rebuild only nets a “new” building made to look old. It is sad it burned, I lost many brain cells in the building in its “cinema draft house” days. You might as well level it, build a state of the art new building and slap the old marquee on it. When something dies a natural death, you cannot bring it back.

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DJ Willard

August 19th, 2009
4:32 pm

Great show!! I drove up from Florida and this was my second McCartney show. This shows was fairly organized compared to the other hundred outdoor shows I have been to.i.e. Bonnaroo, Phish @ Big Cypress. among others. Having been to a lot of GA shows I was kind of curious as to how the early entry was going to work. Thankfully I just got a regular ticket. I thought it was kind of a joke to have to early entry times, I mean it is general admin show. So lets say you got in an hour early, you still can’t stop others from getting to the front when they “let em’ in”. My only complaint was the people with the blankets. At a general admin show, the only spot you paid for is the spot your feet are in. Not where you blanket is. If you want to sit down and have you own space go to the back not the front row. I have also saw a few people complain about cigarettes and pot smoking. You went to a rock concert, outdoors, not the opera. They kind of go hand in hand.
THANK YOU Piedmont park, THANK YOU PAUL, and THANK YOU ATL.

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mark

August 19th, 2009
4:34 pm

What: Replica of the wright flyer.
Where: Tellus Northwest Georgia Science Museum

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Falcons Fan

August 19th, 2009
4:35 pm

A roof panel at the Georgia Dome….GO FALCONS!

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Michael

August 19th, 2009
4:57 pm

model of the Wright Brothers plane…Smithsonian

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mark2

August 19th, 2009
4:58 pm

What: Replica of the wright flyer.
Where: Tellus Northwest Georgia Science Museum

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Kitty Boo

August 19th, 2009
5:05 pm

Something at Fernbank.

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Rajeev

August 19th, 2009
5:39 pm

Model of plane designed by Wright brothers in Tellus Northwest Gerogia Science Museum

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easton

August 19th, 2009
6:11 pm

portion of the Georgia Dome roof

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easton

August 19th, 2009
6:12 pm

Model of plane designed by Wright brothers in Tellus Northwest Gerogia Science Museum

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G.G.

August 19th, 2009
7:07 pm

Replica of the Wright Brother’s plane.
Tellus Northwest Georgia Science Museum

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Gram

August 19th, 2009
7:07 pm

A section of the Georgia Dome,
Atlanta, Ga.

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Chuck

August 19th, 2009
9:16 pm

I agree with the previous comment. Why not mention free Jazz at Centennial park?

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Chuck

August 19th, 2009
9:17 pm

It makes me wonder how much good information is on this inside access

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 19th, 2009
10:43 pm

Suggestions are always welcome, and concerts at Centennial Park get a nod in the daily to do lists pretty frequently. (And, of course, it’s always easy to find in the AccessAtlanta.com calendar.) It’s important to me, though, to showcase a wide variety of events.

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rachael

August 19th, 2009
10:43 pm

eek! broken link: “How to swim with (whale) sharks.”

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 19th, 2009
11:21 pm

Whoops! Fixed! Thanks, Rachael!

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August 20th, 2009
12:05 am

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Paul Moffett

August 20th, 2009
8:11 am

This is the plane wing of the Wright Brothers National Memorial at Kitty Hawk, N.C.

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Meghann

August 20th, 2009
10:31 am

Love the piece!

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style

August 20th, 2009
10:42 am

my thought

The front of junkman’s daughter in little five points

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Michael

August 20th, 2009
10:46 am

Since when is Cartersville in Atlanta?

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Greg

August 20th, 2009
11:18 am

So the building will be leveled to the ground if it is to be rebuilt?

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Miley Cyrus

August 20th, 2009
12:16 pm

It looks like the inside of the whale sharks colon, and I would know, cause I was there and I swam with them. If you didn’t know that, read the paper, apparently my arrival is a big story. I got my picture on the front page, not like that missing Blairsville woman, or that goofy health care thingy.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 20th, 2009
12:50 pm

Oh, Miley, sorry, but you must have seen some other paper — you weren’t on the AJC’s front page any time in the last few days. I’m sure your arrival did well on AJC.com, but even then, it hasn’t cracked the most popular stories. Hope you’re having fun! ;)

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Chris R.

August 20th, 2009
1:09 pm

Had a wonderful time at Paul McCartney Saturday in Piedmont Park. Seeing my favorite artist, in my favorite part of my favorite city was a dream come true. I thought the show was fantastic! I am probably a bigger Paul McCartney fan than I am a Beatles fan, so the first half of the show was my favorite. I’m thrilled he plays some new songs and Wings songs. I do wish he’d play some of the huge Wings hits that he leaves out every time he tours; but I know what to expect and am happy with what I get. I know most everyone there is wanting Beatle songs and that’s what he delivers…he ain’t no dummy. But I just marvel over how great he is. My thought is how lucky we are that he’s had a good head on his shoulders, has taken care of himself, still makes music and tours. He didn’t end up like Michael Jackson. Thank you Paul…you’re the Man!

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Barry

August 20th, 2009
1:52 pm

Model of plane designed by Wright brothers located in the Air and Space Museum in Washington DC.

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Vangelina

August 20th, 2009
2:59 pm

Dante’s Down the Hatch on Peachtree Rd.

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Theo

August 20th, 2009
3:14 pm

John Oliver is sold out for 8/21

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 20th, 2009
3:26 pm

Great for him, too bad for ticket-seekers. Thanks for the info, Theo!

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Ryan Spretl

August 20th, 2009
4:28 pm

Have you tried using http://ZoToDo.com? I don’t think its really used for this sorta thing in general, but you could create a public To Do List and put up your weekend events there.

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ruben

August 20th, 2009
4:46 pm

Thats the replica of the Wright Brothers plane at the Tellus Museum. Great place to have a membership indeed.

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kristie

August 21st, 2009
9:30 am

If you live in the Canton area, there is a chili cookoff, corvette car show and live bluegrass music at noon on Saturday FREE!! Right off the square downtown Canton.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 21st, 2009
9:52 am

Thanks for the suggestion, Kristie! Feel free to add those types of events to the AccessAtlanta.com calendar, too. :)

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Sue Rodman

August 21st, 2009
2:19 pm

Thanks for the mention. Lots of good ideas in the lists. So many places, so little time.

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Thomas

August 21st, 2009
3:07 pm

Check out the Attractions section on http://www.mapyeti.com … it’s a great resource for finding/posting sales or specials for Atlanta businesses and attractions.

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shirley

August 22nd, 2009
7:35 am

Chi Walking, Meditation Workshop and Labyrinth Walking Meditation all start the week of Sept. 7 at the Wellness Center at DeKalb Medical. Call 404.501.2222

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SUNMAN

August 22nd, 2009
9:07 pm

any events (concerts/ cultural) for the weekend of August 27th ? coming up from south florida

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 22nd, 2009
9:25 pm

Definitely, SUNMAN. I post the weekend to do list every Thursday, and daily to-do lists during the rest of the week. Till then, check out the searchable calendar on AccessAtlanta.com. You can narrow it down to the type of stuff you’re interested in and the area around Atlanta that you’re visiting, among others things. Does that help?

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Midtown Girl

August 23rd, 2009
4:11 pm

Finally!! Someone was thinking,, I mean who wants to sit and watch a movie while its hot out.

I visit the market area often with friends and family on the weekends, I mean lets face it there isn’t a whole lot to do in Atlantic Station unless your going to eat and buy something at Old Navy. But when the market area is set-up, I can walk around and find interesting things to look at and speak with some of the most interesting people and my friends and I can look around and just enjoy our day. We often make an afternoon about.

When the market isn’t set up,, we’re in,, we’re out. I can go to a mall anytime. Its not like Lenox or anyone else.

I’ve been to the movies there (twice: Shopaholic and GREASE) and enjoy the fact that its not overly crowded and now that the weather is getting cooler, it will be more pleasant, and my girlfriends and I look for interesting jewlery and things in the market place,,they have some of the “coolest artist”. and NO ONE in Atlanta does this. I LOVE LOVE LOVE THE MARKET!!!!

So FINALLY,, A.S. has two gold stars.. One for the market and one for the movie series… I can’t wait for Audrey Hepburn…

I hope they don’t mess it up. PS: Jamie,, I LOVE LOVE LOVE your blog.

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Tony

August 23rd, 2009
4:47 pm

Ok, does this mean you can now move on to something else other than this dumb water balloon nonsense? I’m assuming it’s over now, right?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 23rd, 2009
5:21 pm

We will be moving on, but really, a few thousand people had a swell time, and the nature of a blog means info gets posted as it’s available, even if it’s staggered. Onward to new things on Monday!

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Hope

August 23rd, 2009
8:13 pm

Jamie, I’m Hope’s Dad and believe me, I enjoyed watching my Daughter
as much as she did watching the Beatles. That is one date I’ll always cherish, as she said that was 44 years ago but she’s still my baby.
Thanks for printing her comment of that wonderful evening.
Bill Pritchard

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Garrin

August 24th, 2009
11:22 am

There was nothing “dumb” about this. The proceeds benefited an excellent cause – camp for children with disabilities. Read about the cause here and educate yourself: http://www.camptwinlakes.org/

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Eric

August 24th, 2009
2:27 pm

99X and Door44 did a great job organizing the event! We had a great time and i know i will be looking for this event same time next year! Thanks to all those involved. PS: inflatable water slides rock!

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Barb

August 24th, 2009
5:46 pm

Tellus’ website is listed incorrectly – it should be http://www.tellusmuseum.org (altho’ the old Weinman link will still get you there)!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 24th, 2009
5:52 pm

Thanks, Barb! I wasn’t able to get the Tellus redirect to work last week, but everything seems to be working out now. Much appreciated!

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Brett W. Thompson

August 25th, 2009
1:11 am

Thanks SO much for posting this!!

Here’s more info about Animation Attack:

http://asifa-atlanta.blogspot.com/2009/08/animation-attack-2009-press-release.html

-Brett W. Thompson, President of ASIFA-Atlanta

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PM

August 25th, 2009
2:06 am

On Wednesday night, make sure you check out the “Max the Hero” cartoon, which was produced & directed by Mike Salva; written & performed by Bill Corbett, Kevin Murphy, and Michael J. Nelson. (You might know them from Rifftrax or Mystery Science Theater 3000.)

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mike

August 25th, 2009
3:38 pm

This should be done every year till we break the record. what a great idea to raise money for charity. good job everyone

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Michael Halpner

August 25th, 2009
11:36 pm

For more information on the Artmore Hotel, please visit us at http://www.artmorehotel.com. We look forward to welcoming you for the AUFF.

- Michael Halpner
GM- Artmore Hotel

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To do list: August 26 | Inside Access

August 26th, 2009
12:02 am

[...] Atlanta Underground Film Festival begins, all day, venues throughout the city, [...]

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[...] This Michael Jackson-themed community walk will benefit community arts center WonderRoot. (Yep, I wrote about them earlier this week.) Come dressed in your best Michael gear, even if it’s just a lone white [...]

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Truth Seeker

August 26th, 2009
4:16 pm

CD s….don’t know where

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Quawanda Boyer

August 26th, 2009
4:16 pm

CD’s lying on the floor of a Record Store

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Bill Hancock

August 26th, 2009
4:30 pm

The Fish statue at the Atlanta Fish Market

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PJ

August 26th, 2009
4:33 pm

Chattahoochee Nature Center’s new Discovery Center

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PACKER BACKER

August 26th, 2009
4:36 pm

HARD ROCK CAFE ?

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FreekBrother

August 26th, 2009
4:48 pm

These are CDs obviously and I think I saw them at the Georgia Aquarium.

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Panic Spreader

August 26th, 2009
4:53 pm

Atlanta Fish Market.

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MattyB

August 26th, 2009
4:59 pm

Yup, Fish Market

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MB

August 26th, 2009
5:01 pm

Atlanta Fish Market’s fish on top of the building on Pharr Road.

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Melisa

August 26th, 2009
5:04 pm

CD’s. Not sure where they could be….

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Vance

August 26th, 2009
5:12 pm

Atlanta Fish Market

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Smokey the Pundit

August 26th, 2009
5:23 pm

It’s the scales on the giant fish at the Chattahoochee Nature Center.

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John

August 26th, 2009
5:23 pm

John

August 26th, 2009
5:29 pm

My first guess was CD’s making up a fish, and thus probably at the GA Aquarium. But since I work there, and don’t recall ever having seen it, I’m thinking those guys who said CNC’s new facility might be on to something.

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Ima Nidiot

August 26th, 2009
5:34 pm

AOL Headquarters?

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Robbin

August 26th, 2009
5:37 pm

D

August 26th, 2009
6:10 pm

Atlanta Fish Market

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melissa's mom

August 26th, 2009
6:20 pm

Isn’t the fish at the Fish Market made of copper? These are obviously CDs … possibly covering a wall in a music venue? The Tabernacle or Variety Playhouse??

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HIAWASSEE

August 26th, 2009
6:45 pm

ATLANTA ZOO-SOME KIND OF SNAKE SCALES.

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Leonard Gilbert

August 26th, 2009
6:50 pm

CD’s Sony Carrollton, GA

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To do list: August 27 | Inside Access

August 27th, 2009
12:07 am

[...] Night at the Museum event, 1-9 p.m., Barrow County Museum, Winder. FREE. Movies: “WALL-E” shows for Movies & The Market, 8:45 p.m. Atlantic Station’s Central Park, Atlanta. [...]

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ChippersLoveChild

August 27th, 2009
9:29 am

No reference to Motley Crue? Already can tell this blog won’t offer me much guidance for my weekend.

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Jeff

August 27th, 2009
9:50 am

how about the red bull soap box races, seems like someone didnt do a good job of weekend event listing.

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Wes

August 27th, 2009
9:52 am

Yea, and no mentioning of Chickenfoot at the Tabernacle on Sunday? They seriously need a music only calendar.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 27th, 2009
9:54 am

Hey Jeff! You might’ve missed it, but the Red Bull soapbox races is listed under Saturday’s items to do.

Meanwhile, ChippersLoveChild, I didn’t mention Motley Crue because I had a feeling that their fans are the passionate variety that know about it well before I’m going to tell them. :)

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 27th, 2009
9:55 am

Good news, Wes! You can search the AccessAtlanta.com calendar only for music events, or you can check out our Atlanta Music Scene blog. It has a list of live music picks: http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-music-scene/

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 27th, 2009
10:11 am

Love all these guesses! Keep ‘em coming! The answer and story will be posted at 4 p.m.!

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ogre

August 27th, 2009
10:44 am

ok then, how about led zepagain at variety playhouse on sat.

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ChippersLoveChild

August 27th, 2009
11:15 am

Your reasoning makes sense to me, fair enough :)

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tsunade

August 27th, 2009
2:50 pm

man, i wish atlanta was doing it as big as NY and LA are doing it! but i will be going to some of these birthday tributes.

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Monica

August 27th, 2009
9:27 pm

^ Yeah, me too. :-( That Spike Lee party sounds like it’s gonna be great.

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[...] Visual art: Perspectives Georgia Pottery Invitational, 10 a.m.-5 p.m., OCAF Center, Watkinsville. FREE. Story. [...]

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Jeff

August 28th, 2009
10:50 am

Thanks Jamie. My bad.

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Phill

August 28th, 2009
1:33 pm

I thought the place was insured. I guess the investigators found something a little fishy and then suddenly Wilmont was all “OMG lol donations pls”. I heard Tim Bryant on the radio specifically say that the building was insured and when investigators were done it would be fully restored. Oh it was under-insured you say?A major historical landmark and it was “under-insured”? You’re joking right? All this “invest in Athens history because it feels good k” feels like a bunch of smoke & mirrors.

@truth: Bands usually had to pay a high price if they were unknown and wanted to play the Theater. If anything there will be just as much if not MORE music now that it’s gone.

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ATLGirl

August 28th, 2009
2:42 pm

What about Marshall Tucker Band tonight at Mable House Barnes ampitheater (sp)? Rain is diminishing, not super hot out…great night for great southern rock and roll.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 28th, 2009
2:48 pm

Thanks for the suggestion, ATLGirl! Not everything gets on this list — we’ve got the calendar that lists everything, and I only have so much time to trim it down — but readers (and me!) always appreciate an endorsement from someone in the community. :)

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Typical

August 28th, 2009
3:42 pm

Under what authority are weapons banned?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 28th, 2009
3:47 pm

I’ve got no specific information on that; race organizers say they’re following Piedmont Park rules, and weapons are on their list of items not to bring. That seems to be the typical list of banned items for events there.

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Typical

August 28th, 2009
4:25 pm

I don’t think that’s a Piedmont Park rule (as long as one has a GFL).

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Rusty

August 28th, 2009
7:47 pm

We did a walking audio tour of this exhibit as a podcast back when it was at the Civic Center. Cheryl Muré, the director of education then (and I think now), was very gracious with her time. It sounds like a lot of the interactive stuff is new.

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Why would need weapons for this?

August 28th, 2009
8:39 pm

Name says it all, weapons, beer, never go good together. And before you go off spouting I am some left wing liberal gun hating nut..
I am a NRA member, have a conceal carry permit, and own more than a few myself.

Leave em at home, stay out of trouble.

Have fun.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 28th, 2009
9:56 pm

I didn’t see the first one, but I’ve been trolling the AJC archive for a comparison. They say the Aquarium exhibition has 40 objects that have never appeared before. I also read a few stories out of the Civic Center exhibition that clearly aren’t in this one. So there we go!

Meanwhile, thanks for the podcast link!

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HT

August 28th, 2009
10:21 pm

Aren’t CCWs invalid at a public gathering anyways?

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Zippy

August 28th, 2009
11:56 pm

Nobody needs weapons for this. Leave them at home. Makes pickin’s easy for me!

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hobberskins

August 29th, 2009
1:20 am

OMG! This is about good clean or fairly clean fun and the first thing out of somebody’s mouth is some gun gripe. Ridiculous! Please stay out of my neighborhood and spend your day defending your second amendment right at home! Geez. Get a friggin grip people!

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Typical

August 29th, 2009
9:03 am

“Why would need weapons for this?” You may not be a liberal gun hating nut but you don’t read very well. Alcohol is on the no-no list. GA does not issue a conceal carry permit. Not carrying means staying out of trouble to you???
Crazy!!

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funtime

August 29th, 2009
10:00 am

Yes you can carry at a public gathering, store, just about anywhere now. But if you are asked not to bring one you cant. That is part of the law now alos, If you are are asked to take to our vehicel and you refuse you get a new pair of shiny braclets.

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Cardog10

August 29th, 2009
10:49 am

I’m 21 so I’m allowed to drink, but I still can’t bring alcoholic beverages to Piedmont. Same with guns, idiot. Get a life

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ConcretelyAmbiguous

August 29th, 2009
11:06 am

This is a pretty good list for this weekend.
For other great Atlanta Events check out ConcretelyAmbiguous Events Calendar at http://concretelyambiguous.com/concretelyambiguous-events-calendar/

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drewmanc

August 29th, 2009
11:22 am

Do us all a favor. Don’t come at all.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 29th, 2009
11:52 am

Before this conversation gets too crazy, just a reminder: please be respectful and keep the conversation moving forward. I hope we all have a wonderful, safe time!

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Rose

August 29th, 2009
12:25 pm

Atlanta’s tributes are LAME!! MJ deserves bigger and better than this. =<

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Ka Pow mom

August 29th, 2009
2:08 pm

I was hoping for a live web cast. If so can you direct me to it.

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Nancy

August 29th, 2009
6:02 pm

Just got back from the 2:00 Happy Birthday 10th Anniversary show for Alton Brown’s Good Eats. It was so much fun, an absolute hoot.

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Chris

August 29th, 2009
7:49 pm

Thanks Red Bull for bringing good times and fun to Atlanta. It was awesome to see so many folks gathering on the street to have a good time. Blocking off Tenth Street should happen again soon for
a nice block party with dancing and some good cooking.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 29th, 2009
9:00 pm

“Block party.” Not sure how traffic feels about it, but it sounds like a great idea, Chris. The neighbors seemed to be good sports about a soapbox strip in front of their houses. Maybe it’ll happen!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 29th, 2009
9:19 pm

Offer up some suggestions, Rose! Maybe if someone gets an idea in their head, it’ll happen. :)

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 29th, 2009
9:30 pm

Fun! Thanks for sharing, Nancy! What was it like? (Was there cake? Yes, I totally have a cake hangup.) Meanwhile, here’s an interview with Alton Brown from my colleague Rodney’s Radio-TV Talk blog: http://bit.ly/RQhtv

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blondie

August 30th, 2009
1:10 am

how did team clermont do? so tired of trying to save the pandas – they have a nice home in china… we need to save the clermont lounge! h8 foreclosures/mortgages/the concept of money.

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Lori

August 30th, 2009
9:20 pm

Awwww the Chili Dog Explosion crashed? Bless their hearts

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Rick Day

August 31st, 2009
4:15 pm

Conventions book fun places. International draws do not roll up the sidewalks at 3AM. Without more night life, Atlanta is as exciting a draw as Dallas, or St Louis or Topeka. Everything was fine with the 4AM closing, until a few bad apples spoiled it, compounded by the fumbled attempted monopoly of night life that was created with the disaster known as Underground.

Midtown is the PERFECT place, IF an entertainment district is firmly established in the commercial area. Residents: You should be remained that YOU are the intruders into the commercial zone. If you want peace and quiet move to the suburbs, where the zoning forbids night clubs. Do not move next to the airport, and expect everyone to keep YOUR interpretation of ‘peace and quiet’. That complaining residents live in a box with 1000 other people suggests you don’t REALLY care about ‘noise’.

DISCLOSURE: I reside within the SPI-16 commercial zone, 150 feet from an all-night “club”, on one of the busiest streets in Midtown Atlanta, and have just learned to DEAL with the noise.

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seriously....

August 31st, 2009
5:03 pm

I don’t criticize grammar in comments, but I think a journalist is fair game — it is hay bales, not BAILS. How’d that get past the writer AND the editor???

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 31st, 2009
5:49 pm

Seriously…the bloggers don’t have editors. Everything you’re seeing here has generally passed through my eyes only, and we’re all human. After many hours in the hot sun, everybody makes mistakes! However, it’s corrected now! Thanks!

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Leigh

August 31st, 2009
7:57 pm

I lived across from the last vision. I’m ok with clubs. I used to live on Crescent with all the clubs. The difference between the clubs on Crescent (with the exception being Opera as they had a shooting there) and Vision is the shootings that happened associated with vision patrons- and the boom boom cars oh and the public urination, trash, screeching harpies hanging out in the parking lot after the club closed. I can see the clubs close down on Crescent from my balcony. They close down clubs clear out and people go home. With Vision the clubs closed down people went and lolly gagged in the parking lot and turned on their bass – then they cruised around the block a few times to impress the “ladies” with said bass.

Midtown is not the place for this club as they’ve already shown they cannot control their patrons. Put this club in Underground where it belongs. Maybe a 4 million dollar club would entice people to actually go to Underground.

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Jason

August 31st, 2009
8:36 pm

Rick Day, wouldn’t full disclosure be you telling everyone that you ***OPERATE*** a Midtown club (activity center, goth bar, alternative liftstyle venue or whatever you want to call it)? Your views can hardly be consider objective since you chose to open a business in the area in question.

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Beck

August 31st, 2009
9:10 pm

The clubs were here before the yuppies moved “intown.” I would much rather go back to the days of Backstreet and Kaya than have most of these new residents of Atlanta here.

If they didn’t like the nightclubs, they shouldn’t have moved into the neighborhoods with nightclubs. It’s just another form of gentrification.

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Jason

August 31st, 2009
9:23 pm

Long before any of the guys who want to operate this megaclub were born, Peachtree Street had horse stables. Horses are frightened by loud music. If someone wants to bring back horse stables to Peachtree, can they demand all the clubs shutdown because stables were there first? Vision closed and went away and condos moved in. Now they want to move back in and dictate the character of the neighborhood.

Most cities put megaclubs like these in light industrial areas so they don’t bother anyone. Cities evolve over time. Only boring old people whose best days have passed them by pull out the “it was so much more fun when I was younger” card. Backstreet is gone. Kaya is gone. Vision is gone. If they want to reopen, there area hundreds of places they can do so where they won’t bother anyone. You’ll get use to the new locations… or perhaps not since they’ll now be populated with young whipper snappers who are flexible enough to adjust when things change rather than insist everything remain just like it use to be.

Do note that no one is opposing smaller bars and lounges. The opposition is to the hyped up megaclubs that pull in people from all over the metro who don’t want to have their own neighborhoods treated this way. If the Gidewon brothers just must have a location in Midtown, they need to make it appropriately scaled to the area. Mixed residential and commercial is not the place for huge megaclubs. Industrial areas and abandoned shopping centers in strictly commercial areas are.

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Pepper

August 31st, 2009
9:28 pm

How classy can this joint be if the clientele will have to be frisked at the doorway for weapons? I’m sure NeNe and her gal pals from the real housewives of the ATL will feel right at home here.

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jerry gardner

August 31st, 2009
9:33 pm

A “high end destination” is only as high-end as its patrons, and a drunk is a drunk. And none of them care about marble counters.
Am I the only one here who remembers the Buckhead bar scene of 10 years ago when residents could not even leave their houses because of the traffic and the noise? A murder every Sunday morning at 2am? Why won’t this happen again in Midtown?

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Smallbusinessowner

August 31st, 2009
9:35 pm

I was in Midtown long before Velvet, Cotton, Vision, the clubs on Crescent, or the yuppies. Trust me – the yuppies are far better. The only people in Midtown that this is good for are the Gidewons and landlord John Dewberry. Take the party, noise, traffic, beatings and shootings somewhere else … please.

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Kevin

August 31st, 2009
9:41 pm

Neighborhoods evolve. Midtown has evolved from a party-filled, somewhat gritty area into a higher end, classier area. The entertainment needs to transition with the neighborhood, not the other way around. We’re the ones paying the bills. And don’t come back with the sales tax revenue. Property tax from high density residential blows that number away.

Leigh had it right. We’re not objecting to clubs that cater to patrons that do their thing and leave. Vision’s history has shown us who they’re targeting– people who leave the club, thump-thump their music, urinate in the street, and cruise around. Seriously– if you paid an enormous amount of money for a house, would you want that in your front yard?

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seriously.... (again)

August 31st, 2009
10:11 pm

Jamie — thanks for being cool about it, and correcting the error! I’m surprised the on-line content of the AJC doesn’t go through an editor. Is that for the whole site, or just the blogs?

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Midtown Resident

August 31st, 2009
10:24 pm

As a resident living on Peachtree, I’m in favor of a nightclub(s) in Midtown. Just NOT on Peachtree and NOT by this owner. First, the SPI Club capacity is 1300+. There are only 250 designated parking spots. There will be hundreds of cars simply seeking a place to park. Local residential parking will certainly effected. Second, SPI Club will hire 10 off duty police officers. Only 2 of them will keep traffic on Peachtree moving in front of the club. Imagine if 2 officers tried to move traffic on Peachtree in Buckhead at midnight a few years ago. Thirdly, SPI Club has no clear plan to clean up garbage in the area. Just a few years ago when Vision was running, the NPU-E made frequent requests to Vision to address all of the signage and fliers in area generated by the club. These and many other requests by the NPU-E were simply ignored.

I don’t think that anyone is naive to think that Gidewon won’t get his liquor license. He spent $4M to build out a nightclub without any community input (nor some building permits) before he even received a liquor license. His own website shows pictures of him and his family with Mayor Franklin and Kasim Reed. Clearly he’s not dumb enough to build $4M club and just hoping to get a liquor license. This is the only time to have him agree to some simple neighborhood standards before he resumes his history of ignoring the NPU and the midtown residents.

Find out more and why the Midtown Ponce Security Alliance and hundreds of other residents are concerned…

http://www.midtownponce.org/news/index.html

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Allen

August 31st, 2009
10:27 pm

Atlanta NEEDS this club . . . more than ever. People (read: conventions and those who plan them) go to cities where there is actually something to do . . . something unique . . . Atlanta once had this distinction with 24 hours clubs (something any city of 5 million people should have — this is not supposed to be Mayberry folks). I have friends from Alabama who used to come to Atlanta for a long weekend of entertainment in the South’s capital city who do not come here anymore because we roll up the sidewalks at 2 am. This is an economic decision. Fewer visitors means fewer hotel rooms, less taxes (gasoline, room, liquor); less business for taxi drivers, etc. It should not take a genius to figure out that more entertainment options means more revenue — for EVERYONE! I have lived in Atlanta for over 35 years and I have never seen the nightlife at such a low ebb.

In addition to conventioneers, there are singles; people who work as bartenders, waitresses, who need a place to go after work hours. WE have a young professional workforce that needs social outlets in the central city. People move into the city for the nightlife . . . not for the peace and quiet . . . for that, you can move to the mountains, or perhaps Dacula. Atlanta needs unique entertainment options. Right now, we really have none. For those who do not want to see these type clubs on Peachtree, move back to the suburbs, please. A city is defined by it’s nightlife. When you drive into Atlanta from Alabama on I-20 from Birmingham, for example, and see those bright lights of Atlanta skyscrapers it suggests a “happening place” and literally brings you to life with expectations. . . as it is now, you arrive and realize you are actually in Mayberry — everything is closed. This is not as it should be.

Perspective: I am a retired, professional, 62 year old white male.

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ATLien

August 31st, 2009
10:30 pm

Well said Kevin. Could not agree more.

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Reader

August 31st, 2009
10:32 pm

Don’t get mad. You made that choice to live in a major city. So you have to deal with the noise, the crowd, sometimes the crimes of an urban city. Name one major city that does not have those issues. I’m not saying it’s OKAY. `Name one city that doesn’t have clubs or theaters on it’s main thoroughfare or in the heart of the city.

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Uncle Tom

August 31st, 2009
10:54 pm

What the “City” of Atlanta doesn’t need are more hulking condo or condo/hotel buildings. Aren’t there enough shadows looming over the streets during the day? To answer the question(s) at hand however, it seems to me there are enough clubs within the perimeter. And besides, why spend money on capital improvements on a building if you don’t own the building anyway?

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Uncle Tom

August 31st, 2009
11:03 pm

Well, well, well. Thanks to “Pepper” and the snide remark about NeNe (of RHOA), it appears we have our very first color comment of the evening. Now I could say, “why does Midtown need another club that would be a happy hangout spot for the likes of Paris, Britney, or Lindsay,” but why should I?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 31st, 2009
11:06 pm

Good discussion so far, folks. Thanks for keeping it respectful and offering up your answers and ideas!

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esa

August 31st, 2009
11:10 pm

So if I understand the arguments for the club correctly, Atlanta needs this club because (1) economic growth comes from drunk people who stay out until 4 am and not people who sleep at night and go to work in the morning, (2) people from Alabama will drive to Atlanta attracted by the bright lights and be disappointed with the clubs we have now, and (3) an area dominated by homes and high rise office buildings such as Midtown Atlanta is not a live-work area but an all-night drunken party destination. Now I understand.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

August 31st, 2009
11:30 pm

Seriously… It’s a mix. The blogging and breaking news teams were created to get good information posted online as quickly as possible. That means that writers take on more responsibility for getting it right the first time, but problems inevitably slip through. Thankfully, it’s also pretty simple to update info and to correct errors and typos. If it’s a particularly complicated or tense issue, we’ll toss the post or news burst to an editor, just to be safe. (Stories by the beat writers and Sunday staff are usually created with a print-first, online-second philosophy, and those usually go through an editor or two. Not as many as we once had, but it’s something.) Thank you for understanding! I do the best I can, but it can be a lot. I guess the system works: my last AJC blog was lucky to get three posts a week. I’m doing that in a day now. Even now, my fingers are feeling a bit like jelly. :)

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Smallbusinessowner

August 31st, 2009
11:37 pm

Dang folks – nobody thinks that there shouldn’t be mega-party, mega-clubs in Atlanta. 12th and Peachtree is just not the appropriate location. The serious taxpayers – homeowners, and small and large businesses have a huge investment in the quality of life in the neighborhood. Most of the patrons of this club (and the owners) won’t give a s**t about Midtown or the people that live and work there. There are a hundred other appropriate locations for this club.

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September 1st, 2009
12:01 am

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 1st, 2009
12:42 am

Hi Ka Pow mom! Sorry, no live Webcast, but the winners and the drawings that got their cars started are posted online: http://www.redbullsoapboxusa.com

Sorry there isn’t more to share!

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Reality

September 1st, 2009
8:27 am

If this were another gay bar opening in Midtown there would be nothing said. Midtown residents know that gay bars don’t draw people who want to shoot each other, nor do gay bars attract people who want to hang out in parking lots and blast ghetto boom boxes and circle the block wanting to be seen trying to impress others with loud, loud, loud music rattling windows. Gays aren’t people who drive cars that have music arriving two blocks ahead of the car. Gay bars are welcome in Midtown, but hetro bars that attract certain elements are not. It’s just that simple. People, it’s not about how you look. It’s about how you behave. Peace!

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September 1st, 2009
1:57 pm

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the real Old Gold

September 1st, 2009
10:42 pm

After the opener at Bobby Dodd, the wife and I will go watch her Tide at the Dome for the second straight year. Two college games in one day.. check!

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gcs

September 1st, 2009
11:44 pm

No camp fires?! You fascists!

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Dustin

September 2nd, 2009
8:52 am

I wish I could be there. It sounds like fun. Football season is back!!!

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Mystory

September 2nd, 2009
9:43 am

The moral of this story is You can’t please everybody. The Gidewons have owned the most popular club in Atlanta in Midtown before and people have complained, the Gidewons will AGAIN own the most popular club in Atlanta, and people will continue to complain. Meanwhile the people who welcomes the new establishment will enjoy it to the fullest so the other people who are unhapppy about it will just have to find a way to deal with the issues as they unfold. Bottom line, end of story. Congrats in advance to the brothers for yet another success, and thanks for all that you do in the community. I’m looking forward to the new venue ;-)

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the perfect weekend

September 2nd, 2009
9:58 am

This is why Atlanta is the best city in the world. I’m going to the 790 the zone Football party on Thursday, Braves game on Friday, Tech game and then Alabama game on Saturday, race on Sunday, then recover on the holiday Monday. I love it.

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Thinking About Going

September 2nd, 2009
11:16 am

Will there be a lot of obnoxious, inarticulate, chest-thumping, ill-mannered THUGZ downtown for the game and festivities on Saturday as is usually the case with Falcons games?

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Beentheredonethat

September 2nd, 2009
11:31 am

I do not want this club to be opened in this location. I live on Peachtree in South Buckhead and do not want the cruisers from the burbs (b/c that’s usually who it is) driving up and down Peachtree in the middle of the night with their music blaring (don’t even get me started on the stupid motorcycles with no mufflers!). WE are paying the taxes to live there and deserve to be able to sleep at night.

Build your club…but build it some where else! We don’t want you in our neighborhood! Kevin was RIGHT ON!

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jimh

September 2nd, 2009
11:43 am

Not to mention Dragon Con and Parade down a “closed peachtree st” at 10 am

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 2nd, 2009
2:21 pm

Jimh: Did you see the list of weekend events? There’s soooo much going on. http://bit.ly/1b3ZHk

Thinking About Going: This blog isn’t a place for bullying, wild generalizations or snide commentary in the form of a question. If you go, I hope you have fun, but please don’t ruin the fun on this blog.

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griftdrift

September 2nd, 2009
5:19 pm

I’m a guessing it’s the Giganotosaurus at Fernbank Museum of Natural History.

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Duluth, GA

September 2nd, 2009
5:28 pm

And some people complain that there is nothing to do in Atlanta…..

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BB

September 2nd, 2009
5:32 pm

I know….I think some people just like to complain.

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Reader

September 2nd, 2009
5:42 pm

I agree with BB.

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hmm

September 2nd, 2009
5:56 pm

I don’t believe that Dragon*Con is at the Renaissance Atlanta Hotel..

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DW

September 2nd, 2009
8:31 pm

Dragoncon the best party on the east coast and one very few Atlantans have any idea of how good it is and safe.

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Piso

September 2nd, 2009
10:48 pm

I’m guessing the Flex Bathhouse after getting a “mud bath”

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jen

September 3rd, 2009
12:23 am

Don’t know.

But know where I am?

East London, South Africa. Its aout 6:20am and I’m going for a jog on the beach. You know, by the Indian Ocean?

It sucks to be away from family when I travel but there ARE perks.

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ATLien

September 3rd, 2009
6:43 am

The mouth of the Tyrannosaurus display at the Fernbank Museum of Natural History.

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Sue Rodman

September 3rd, 2009
8:31 am

Fernbank Museum of Natural History

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YellowJackette

September 3rd, 2009
9:38 am

1) What does it matter what other cities have and do? Atlanta needs to do what is best for Atlanta and it’s citizens. Do you think those cities became what they are because they followed the same pattern?
2) For all those people who say “don’t move to midtown if you don’t want the noise” or “the clubs where there first”, forget that not all the people living in midtown or the condos that have gone up are as old as they are. I’m sure the residents who spent hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars to move into midtown did so during the time when Vision or any other “mega-club” was not in business. As far as they are concerned, the noise, litter, and traffic were not what they paid for nor was it a foreseeable problem on such a scale. I, for one, moved into a condo within the last year a block far where SPI will be located and had no idea such a club was in the works. I moved there expecting the the loud sirens, occasional car honking, and human banter walking down the sidewalk. I expected noise… to a degree. I am not willing to give up the atmosphere I have paid for, learned to appreciate, and expect just because people who don’t pay the same taxes I do and who don’t appreciate the city I live in because they came from the ‘burbs want to come into my city to live a night of lower standards then they would expect in their own neighborhoods.
3) I agree that Atlanta needs a little more nightlife. As a “yuppie” as y’all so fondly refer to us as, I want to be able to go out and have fun with my friends. I just don’t want my “neighbor” to be the one throwing the party every weekend and most week nights. There are much better locations for this club. Why not DOWNTOWN? Nobody from out of town talks about visiting “Midtown Atlanta” anyways.
4) I also think this nightclub would be okay if the patrons actually kept to their standards that they want out of a club. A club cannot be high-end or “grown and sexy” unless the people going inside or waiting in line are. The club must also be concerned if they find a need to have metal-detectors at the doors. Unfortunatly that’s only good for inside the club. What about the people that get turned away? As previously stated, there will be 2 cops to help with traffic outside of the club. Well that’s only going to help the 250 people who are lucky enough to get a parking spot in the club’s lot. What about the guaranteed to be needed overflow lots? After looking over the materials presented to Midtown Neighbors’ Association Board of Directors, I noticed that there are people to help with the overflow street lot planned but no one is set up to help with the overflow parking deck. Not to mention, who is actually going to pay to park in that deck when there are free spots lining Piedmont and Juniper. I am very concerned by this fact and the fact that my window looks out at that overflow deck. Who is even going to be responsible for all those people going back to their cars?
5) I understand you can’t please everyone. Sadly it sounds as if the Gidewons have only worried about pleasing themselves. Maybe if they had been a bit more considerate of their neighbors their first go around, people would be more considerate of their efforts now.

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September 3rd, 2009
11:39 am

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Maleman

September 3rd, 2009
12:32 pm

Shatner is going to be at this years Dragon-Con, it should be great. This event brings a lot of money into the city and I have never heard of any violence or anything bad happening. And…it’s a great place for all your old math and chess club buddies from high school to get together again! Seriously, it’s very cool to go to. Check it out.

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Tony from Stone Mountain

September 3rd, 2009
2:19 pm

Kirk and Spock and having a panel at 10am. on Friday at Dragon-Con.

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Tony from Stone Mountain

September 3rd, 2009
2:21 pm

I was Chess Club and journalism staff. Math Club was for losers. lol

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Tony from Stone Mountain

September 3rd, 2009
2:22 pm

I meant “are” not “and”.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 3rd, 2009
2:49 pm

I was journalism staff, Science Olympiad, colorguard, French Club, drama… This will be my first time dropping in on DragonCon, but I believe these are my people, Maleman and Tony. :) (By the way, I think Rodney Ho is covering the Shatner-Nimoy event on the Radio-TV Talk blog!)

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southern hope

September 3rd, 2009
4:05 pm

Naive questions about DragonCon (and I couldn’t figure this out from their site). Can you just walk up & buy tickets for the day? Is it sold out? Where is the main venue (they list 4 hotels but I’m not sure where registration takes place). Any basic information appreciated!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 3rd, 2009
4:24 pm

Good question, southern hope! Here’s info about DragonCon “memberships,” or daily passes: http://www.dragoncon.org/members.php

I’ll be publishing a “What to know before you go” guide for DragonCon late tonight or early tomorrow, but I’m missing some of the details, too, like which door, exactly, gets you to the one-day passes. My understanding is that you should look for the reeeeealllly long line.

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southern hope

September 3rd, 2009
5:33 pm

thank you Jamie! very helpful. I just walked over there & one thing i discovered is that you buy the single day tickets at the Sheraton (that’s a change for this year) and that a one-day pass costs $50 or you can buy a 2-day pass for $50 (yeah, I know…LOL….but Friday was the only cheaper day….so Sat & Sun together cost $50….one idea they gave me is to buy the sat/sun package on Friday afternooon….)

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Sue Rodman

September 4th, 2009
6:50 am

I love the “What to Know Before You Go” series. This is great info.

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Rusty

September 4th, 2009
7:33 am

Agree this is great info, and also like this series.

Close second for best people watching is the hotel bar at the Hyatt, which you can drink at without a badge.

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GTFan

September 4th, 2009
8:54 am

It’s only because it’s Labor Day Weekend Duluth, GA. I don’t particularly care for DragonCon, but great for others. Hubby and I are season ticket holders for GT, so that’s where will be.

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Dogs!!!

September 4th, 2009
11:36 am

Can anyone provide advice on how dog friendly the area around cent. Park and the collective soul concert will be? Thanks!

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GT LEO, BIG Steve

September 4th, 2009
1:41 pm

GT will put the smackdown on Jacksonville St. Saturday 1pm @ The Historic Bobby Dodd Stadium.

Alabama will beat Va Tech Saturday night 8pm @ Georgia Dome.

If you don’t go out, you can sit at your homes and watch some other football games, like Oklahoma State beating UGA @ 4pm LOL

Also, to everyone, especially all the Virgo’s, there’s a Virgo Day party at the Lucky Lounge off of Peachtree and 12th St. from 3pm – 8pm. FREE FOOD!!!!

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Dawg Foot

September 4th, 2009
2:11 pm

You can’t really kill anyone with a light saber, can you?

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NativeAtlantan

September 4th, 2009
3:38 pm

Y’all pray for Joe Cox now he’s got likely the H1N1 and may not be able to travel to Stillwater for the Okie St game…trouble brewing for the Dawgs tomorrow…

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Ellie

September 4th, 2009
6:54 pm

Dragon Con is your classic Freak Show fest of losers. I wouldn’t go there if you paid me. Freaks.

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jay

September 4th, 2009
10:20 pm

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Sammy Kershaw

September 4th, 2009
10:45 pm

Please tell me Virginia Tech fans will be doing the hokey pokey all day

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 4th, 2009
11:50 pm

Ellie: good news! Nobody will be paying you to attend, so you don’t have to go. You also didn’t have to leave such a disrespectful comment on my blog. Dragon*Con isn’t for everybody, but why reach out with so much vitriol? I hope you have a lovely weekend of fun ahead, but in the future, please respect other reader while they have fun, too.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 4th, 2009
11:51 pm

Dogs!!! Here’s the guide to the Chik-fil-A Kickoff Game events, which includes the Collective Soul/Drivin n Cryin show. Centennial Olympic Park does not allow pets. http://blogs.ajc.com/inside-access/2009/09/01/what-to-know-before-you-go-chick-fil-a-kickoff-game/

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William Pabst

September 5th, 2009
5:39 am

Crock pond at Dantes in five points.

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Sally

September 5th, 2009
8:12 am

I’m sorry but a lot of this stuff looks boring.

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midtownian

September 5th, 2009
8:29 am

It’s also the last two days of Midtown Restaurant Week!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 5th, 2009
9:34 am

Recommendations welcome, Sally! :)

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WHAT

September 5th, 2009
10:50 am

Everything shuts down in this city at 9. I hate Atlanta. Yeah, yeah. I’ll move when I am ready.

I have never heard anybody complain about Chicago (cept the weather), nor San Diego.

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Courtney

September 5th, 2009
7:37 pm

Liked the parade. Missed seeing Buffy & Angel or Mr. Spock. Too many of a couple things. such as limney Snickets and League of extraordinary gentlemen.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 6th, 2009
1:10 am

Glad it helps! I’m thinking that I may wind up at the Hyatt hotel bar tomorrow, post-DBF. Nice suggestion. :)

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delilah

September 6th, 2009
2:41 am

sorry folks – I have been here 27 years and it is booorrriiiing. Seriously, when have the arts, theatre, museum (s) and overall cultural things to do (besides clogging) been either supported or reinvented?? In fact, anything that smacks of culture is usually the first to go., – you know it’s liberal communism/socialism stuff tha does not belong in the precious christian south. If this sound angry it is because I am. How much shopping and playing tennis/golf can one do?? Education and culture make a city and all the emphasis that is put on sports has still not made one great team here yet. I know I will get hell for this but really., -think about what has made Chicago and San Fran, Boston and NYC great cities?? Not picnics or parades. We need to really support the arts.

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candy

September 6th, 2009
10:34 am

I am a newby. Didn’t know this was happening this weekend. I like to people watch, but need something else besides big costumes. Staying at the Marriot Marquis. Any “pride” stuff going on? Im thinking it will hard to distinguish between queens and idk…some dragon con characters.Help.

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Jeff

September 6th, 2009
10:42 am

Ellie,

You are clearly misguided. What no Sorority party this weekend? Is a fun SAFE event in Atlanta where people enjoy a hobby. Sure beats the 3 drunken fraternity boys pounding bud lights a cussing up a storm in the bathroom yesterday. Clearly nobody asked for you to go, and nor your opinion. Go back to Alpharetta where your belong!

Other wise Dragon Con was GREAT yesterday. The hotel staff was great. About the only play I feel safe with my 11 year old and 15 year old to wonder around with out parents.

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Markmar

September 6th, 2009
2:39 pm

Some kids never grow up.

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Stephanie True Moss

September 6th, 2009
6:13 pm

Correction — “palm tree” not pantry!
I enjoyed Sir Harold Evans’ keynote address on “The Vital Future of the Printed Word” Friday evening. I understood Sir Harold Evans’ quote in relation to hurricane season to be “Why not just get a wind machine and a PALM TREE in the back?” Having survived hurricane Andrew and witnessed many TV hurricane reports, I don’t remember that any of them featured a PANTRY blowing in the wind behind the reporter!

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malika

September 7th, 2009
1:25 am

rich, i’m sure your heart is in the right place, but please don’t put your personal address up online for strangers to read like that.

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laura

September 7th, 2009
2:27 am

our family had a great time..already looking forward to next year

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Wesley Wallace

September 7th, 2009
8:41 am

I am an original member of DAGR from 1987 when Dragon*Con was just getting started, and I live in Alpharetta. Ellie probably has close friends that are affiliated with Dragon*Con. They ditch her to go to the convention, and she doesn’t even know it. They are weirded out by the fact that she doesn’t read, but they are too nice to say anything that might hurt her feelings. A lot of the Stargate celebrities were there this weekend, and everyone looked like they had a great time. There were a lot of families there as well. It is amazing how much time and effort people put into their costumes. It really makes it an amazing experience.

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Informed

September 7th, 2009
5:24 pm

It’s funny but that family (the Gidewons) should be sent packing. They jumped out onto the scene out of nowhere. I wonder where they got all the money to start these clubs. These clubs are more than likely a front for someone’s drug money. People need to investigate that family. Something doesn’t seem right I bet there’s a BIGGER STORY waiting to be uncovered.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 7th, 2009
11:31 pm

Hey folks, just a reminder: please stay on the topic of whether neighborhoods and nightclubs can coexist. Informed: please don’t throw anonymous accusations around in the comments.

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Leslie

September 7th, 2009
11:45 pm

Great photos from the Decatur Book Festival. This was our first and we had a blast. Next year, we will attend 2 days.

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Sue Rodman

September 8th, 2009
6:43 am

I LOVED the Star Wars Box folks.

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Spank Da Monkey

September 8th, 2009
1:07 pm

@Markmar

Acting like a kid and enjoying life every now and then never hurt anybody….stop being such a stuck up snob.

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hmrpotter

September 8th, 2009
1:37 pm

This is a great article for all of my friends who’ve looked at my Facebook this weekend and asked “what the hell is DragonCon?”

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Ginny

September 8th, 2009
4:23 pm

Lame. Any attempts to do a large group Thriller dance, in order to be cool, must be done OUTDOORS in a PUBLIC PLACE where random onlookers may stumble upon it and be stunned. Hotel ballrooms DO NOT COUNT, and besides, no way will this attempt come anywhere near the over 12,000 who danced in Revolution Square in Mexico City on Michael Jackson’s August 29, 2009.

These people look more like they are into dressing up like ghouls than they are into dance, flash mobbing, or MJ. No precise movements. Sad.

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Ginny

September 8th, 2009
4:26 pm

Meant to say “on Michael Jackson’s birthday, August 29, 2009.”

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whataboutBob

September 8th, 2009
5:11 pm

Talk about missibg the point. It would probably be a waste of tme to point out the irony of using the terms lame or sad while trashing the earnest efforts of a large group of people bringing allthis together on short notice. And yes it is safe to say that a convention of 30,000+ people coming together to celebrate pop culture where many dress up in costumes, would indicate that they are into dressing up like ghouls.

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Brian

September 8th, 2009
5:19 pm

The 12,000 in Mexico City did not count. They didn’t complete the dance, so it’s not going into the book. This dance was from start to finish, 4:49. And it doesn’t matter whether or not we had the most over all. We had more people in costume doing the dance than anyone who’s ever tried.

ps: there were 17 M.J.s in the crowd. THE M.J. that will be starring in the version sent to Guinness was up on stage with a group who knew it well.

How about you stop nay-saying and try to find 907 people to do it with you in some random open place. Don’t forget to invite Guinness to the party, I’ll applaud you if you get it done.

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Charles

September 8th, 2009
5:22 pm

In a response to Ginny’s comment, I must say that as far as I understand it, the number of people is only a fraction of the equation of getting into the world records. Proper procedure must be followed and paperwork must be filed in order for the record to be awarded.

One more thing. As a Dragon*Con attendee, I can say that the costumes were encouraged to be worn during the dance, because that’s showing the spirit of Dragon*Con as well as having fun in the process. So to say those things about them only shows your ignorance. Please, don’t make fun of that which you don’t understand.

Also, best of luck to the people who were in the record attempt! I’m rooting for ya!

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Ginny

September 8th, 2009
6:30 pm

Ok, good for them for doing it, but I still say outdoors in public places, where randomness, such as spectators, rain or police are possible, is superior.

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aaron

September 8th, 2009
6:48 pm

To be fair..I agree with Ginny and I was there. But the Atlanta PD probably wouldn’t allow us to block off all of downtown Atlanta..But had we gone outside. We’d have had 2500+ dancing. So we went with what was allowed. You should also know some folks had 2 hours of training others only 30 minutes. Still, we look better than the William and Mary bunch by a mile.

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Kat

September 8th, 2009
6:49 pm

Ginny…I would like to see you find a suitable large outdoor spot in downtown Atlanta that EVERYONE involved could easily get to that wouldn’t get the entire thing shut down by police or fire marshals. Speaking as one of the many who stayed in extremely cramped, hot corridors in the hotel in question for over 2 hours to learn the darned dance, I will not lie and say that I don’t take great offense to your rather petty comments. We didn’t have a huge breadth of options on where and made do with what we could rather nicely I thought.

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Mike

September 8th, 2009
7:46 pm

The record we went for is the most number of people doing the dance in ONE place. Which is for the ENTIRE LENGTH of the song from the album (5min58secs). Not the radio version, and not the video version either. the paper work is being taking care of and months of preparation went into this.
One more thing, if I’m going for a world record, I don’t want cops or spectators coming up on it, getting in the way and messing it up either. Oh, wait a min, I am one of the people in that video and I can tell you it was a load of fun and one of the highlights of Dragon*Con.

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Crystal

September 8th, 2009
8:03 pm

All I have to say is kudos to those who honored MJ and tried to break the record. I had friends in the dance and I think that anyone who bashes the attempt is the one who is lame. If I could have stayed for the entire Con I would have been right in the middle of it. GOOD JOB DRAGON CON DANCERS.

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Hilary

September 8th, 2009
8:31 pm

For those of you wanting to belittle the huge effort it took at DragonCon to break this record, shame on you. There were those of us that did indeed practice for months in advance. I have to give a nod to those who were not that good, since most of those people signed up for this attempt watching us practice right before the event. This was not thrown together at the last minute, and hotel ballrooms do most certainly count. If you think you can do better, check out the Thrill the World website. I believe they are looking for participants for a new record attempt in October.

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Lauren L.

September 8th, 2009
8:41 pm

Oh God, but I must admit, you’re soooo right about the whole ballroom nonsense. We should have been outside. Most definitely. “Hotel ballrooms DO NOT COUNT.” You know what? You’re so right. I do recall reading the Guinness guidelines and it must have just slipped my mind. Allow me to go get those and double check. Huh, you’re right. It says here right on page six:

“Rule IV: No dancing indoors. You look dumb. It should be outside, because dancing outside is far superior and wiser….Especially if you are competing for this dance world record in the southern states, specifically Georgia over Labor Day Weekend. If you do not follow this, your record attempt, regardless of how many people you have and how expert your dancing may be, hotel ballrooms DO NOT COUNT.”

Damnit. I really dropped the ball on this one. You’re absolutely right. I hate that I forgot that Guinness rule. Looks like all of that charity fundraising and having fun one afternoon was in vain. Which….is just quite a shame, considering that I spoke with Atlanta Police Department in June at length about doing it in the streets.

Oh, and, since we’re debating it: We’re so “sad” because we failed to have “precise movements” – but not only that, our attempt “DOES NOT COUNT” (I can’t forget the caps. Has to be in caps.) because we were indoors? And we didn’t have 12,000 people? Gosh. Because, by looking at Mexico, we really did fail. They were so sharp and so crisp. I mean, if I could sway about and clap for a little bit and be as PERFECT and sharp and precise as they are, then this would have been a much better video for you to watch while you sat at your computer picking your nose, realizing to yourself that you just wished you could leave you parent’s basement just long enough to be silly with your friends (assuming you have some) while raising money for charity.

Not to be cliche, but I feel as if I must say to you, Ginny, that your argument is… highly illogical.

Thanks for playing and have a wonderful, wonderful day. =D

Lauren

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Nick

September 8th, 2009
9:20 pm

Checkmate. Sorry, but Lauren got you.

Until you’ve poured your heart into something, with so many other people doing the same, I highly doubt you’ll be able to truly read the previous post. This event is something that all 900+ involved will take with them for the rest of their lives, and never forget. Of course it wasn’t perfect, or in the perfect venue, or at optimum efficiency. But that’s the glory of being human. We aim high, hit lower than we thought we would, and love it all the same. Even now I’m hesitant to post that last sentence, with the feeling that to me, this event couldn’t have gone any better.

Thanks to the one who dreamed, the few who planned, and all who got involved.

–a team captain

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jodi

September 8th, 2009
9:49 pm

I think we were courageous, not lame. You have to be really comfortable with yourself to dress in costume in front of thousands of people and dance a dance you stink at(me anyway as I can’t dance at all). It was something unique and fun to be involved in. I’m proud of all the DRAGON CON DANCERS. We rock! As for the naysayers, go back to your own limited world. I’m sure you are well known there.

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Kimber

September 8th, 2009
9:53 pm

I started planning this back in May. I know more about getting into the Guinness record book than I should, and although the trendy “flash” dancing can be fun, this had to be controlled for our log book.

When you’ve spent four months organizing an event like this via the internet and phone calls, get over 900 people to learn a 6 minute dance, spend almost four hours of precious DragonCon time listening to me and my fellow organizers, directors from D*C, and our wonderful volunteer captains yell out dance steps and rules, dance in costume (did you see our Alien who came from England to attend the con and dance?), spend hours doing paperwork, blow out your knee/ankle/other body parts running between the Hyatt and Sheraton, and missing the whole con to make history, you get back with me, Ginny, and let me know how lame it is.

I spent over $1,000 to go to this con, which I LOVE, and gladly didn’t do much else except gather people, paperwork, and dancers. I missed every panel, Terry Gilliam, shopping, hanging with my friends, costuming…every wonderful nerdy, geeky thing that is DragonCon to bring this lame bit of history to a community I love and did so gladly because WE MADE HISTORY!

So what did you do this weekend?

Kimber — Organizer and Guinness paperwork monkey

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Noey

September 8th, 2009
9:54 pm

I think Ginny sounds a bit bitter not to be a tweet-head that could have come upon our “little” flash mob. Too bad for her. Those Storm Troopers dancing for 6 minutes in full armor was a SIGHT to behold. We Rock on, Rock on, Rock on, Rock on- not to mention- grab pull in, punch punch punch down!

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jodi

September 8th, 2009
9:54 pm

love you Lauren:) And all the great team captains including Nick.

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jodi

September 8th, 2009
9:57 pm

Kimber you are great!! I applaud you. I had such a wonderful time;)

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Ginny

September 8th, 2009
9:57 pm

Ok, I am sorry I dissed you guys. I applaud people doing this. I don’t live in Atlanta but I have been there once, so I am not super familiar with all the outdoor areas. Isn’t that big park that was built during the Olympics still there?

People putting effort into learning this dance and doing it together and having fun and showing spirit and recognizing the talent of Michael Jackson is due respect.

I guess I have just been partial to flash mobs, because of how they cause ripples in the reality of ordinary people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3POhPkRf5A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ0OUIIsh70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7G6EOM6rh0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqJBWY2WI9U

I take inspiration from the huge outdoor events around the world on August 29, including in front of the Eiffel Tower, near the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin, Trafalgar Square in London, and the ones in Moscow and Mexico City.

You guys did a good job too.

I *am* training for Thrill the World on Oct. 25/24.

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Ginny

September 8th, 2009
10:06 pm

P.S. And, according to my preference, I will be Thrilling the World at a large, outdoor, public event. It’s not about spectating for me — it’s about participating.

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Thriller Fan

September 8th, 2009
10:15 pm

Cool thriller dance. Was there anyone named Billie Jean doing it? :) Those that put them down but don’t bother to try it can beat it. http://www.thriller-michael-jackson.com

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Teddi F

September 8th, 2009
10:22 pm

I was there and I thought it was a blast. Record or not, we all have the memories. ~FSM

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Kimber

September 8th, 2009
10:23 pm

Good for you, Ginny. Many of us will be a part of Ines’ Thrill the World, too.

I believe, though, you have your language mixed up. Being outside doing a public event is for spectators, whereas what we did was just for participation since we couldn’t have spectators. You want to be watched, but we just wanted to be together in a history-making DragonCon event.

As far as why we had to do it like we did was because of Guinness’ guidelines, and we did not want to lose a record for a technicality. I think if you organize an event with TTW, you’ll see Ines is going to be just as particular. I’m still confused as to why you think it has to be outside, but then I guess you just don’t understand what we had to do for Guinness and almost 1,000 people.

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Ginny

September 8th, 2009
10:40 pm

I’m a douchbagette

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Patterson

September 8th, 2009
10:42 pm

Ginny, there really aren’t any words to say to you that haven’t been said already by Lauren, Kimber and a boat load of other people here. Having been the lead MJ on stage I’ve just got two words.

BEAT IT.

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Ginny

September 8th, 2009
10:53 pm

It’s true — I would say that the besides learning the dance to perfection (to the degree I can) and the fun of doing it together with a mass of others, I am less interested in breaking a record than creating a phenomenon. It’s not so much about *me* being seen than the *event* being witnessed by the world.

Whether Thrill the World makes or breaks a record, I don’t care that much, but the fact that it happens is important to me.

That’s why I love what happened in Mexico City — whether it becomes the record or not.

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Ginny

September 8th, 2009
11:02 pm

P.S. Noey I don’t use twitter and never have.

Also, I posted a comment here at 9:57 p.m. central time which is still “awaiting moderation” possibly because I included some youtube links. I guess you’ll all see it tomorrow. I am done here.

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Ginny

September 8th, 2009
11:12 pm

P.S. I’m a douchbagette.

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Ginnyisaloser

September 8th, 2009
11:43 pm

Ginny, you post on this for the past 6.5 hours? That’s lame! So you can realize how lame your life is and act like you are no longer reading this or sit and ponder a response. Either way you look like a fool.

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Noey

September 8th, 2009
11:52 pm

Douchebagette… sounds kinda yummy. Assuming it is wrapped in chocolate and served with some Ice Cold water. Sorry Folks, still trying to re-hydrate from doing 4 hours of dancing!

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Lain Shakespeare

September 8th, 2009
11:59 pm

How about finding some 12 year-olds to learn the barber’s trade? They could partner with, say, the Bronner Brothers Hair Show or a local barber shop (maybe the really old one in the bottom of the Hurt Building).

Or what about offering an Executive MBA Camp for 8 year-olds? I heard law camp at Little Shop of Stories is a lot of fun. Plus, I’m sure there are plenty of well-connected executives (African American or otherwise) who’d open their doors for a lunch with kids eager to learn about business.

Or what about hosting a town hall discussion on health insurance reform? Sure, health insurance isn’t the same as life insurance, but what matters is that they’d be doing something that’s meaningful in the community.

There are plenty of things the Herndon Home could do, but it has to do more than merely tell the story of the Herndons. Powerful and remarkable though Alonzo Herndon’s story may be, it’s gotta compete with dozens of other Atlanta stories. Worse, the home (as its mission is interpreted now) has to compete with everything from the Aquarium to the Falcons to the internet.

The article made it seem like the board members were open to tinkering with a new mission — why not tinker with it a little more to make a direct impact for folks in the neighborhood? My bet is the home rooted within a community has a much better shot at survival than the “house on Diamond Hill.”

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Caren

September 9th, 2009
12:10 am

I would like to criticize Ginny’s comment for not being in haiku form. When trolling on the internet, haiku poetry is far superior for delivery of your point in cutting and stylish fashion.

That makes just as much sense as complaining that an organized world record attempt was not a random outdoors flash mob instead.

Also, re: Mexico, it looks like that crew had a lot of fun. But it was hardly a flash mob either! Their organizers had been recruiting people on Facebook for weeks, but simply failed to read up on GWR requirements.

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Kimber

September 9th, 2009
12:15 am

I totally applaud Mexico, England, Barcelona, William and Mary, and DragonCon. :) What all of us did was amazing, and even if Kevin from W&M is the only one to ever hold the record, I wouldn’t trade what we did this weekend for the world. What Ines is plotting for October is amazing, and I hope she gets her record and those of us that live in GA can find a central area and help her out.

You don’t live here so let me tell you how hot it is down here. We were in air conditioning and still sweating. An outdoor event that would embody the spirit of DragonCon, which a bunch of nerd dressing up in costumes, would cause heat stroke.

When I brought this up to D*C, I didn’t want just zombies dancing. I wanted the people that ARE DragonCon: Alien, Stormies, Darth, giant glove, cross-genre Captain Hammer, fairies, and everything else that make my “home” on Labor Day weekend truly Dragoncon.

Since it was a DragonCon event, it had to be on site, which is why we couldn’t go to Centennial. We had the cameras and sound system there at the ballroom so that’s where it happened. It was the first event D*C has ever had like this, so we learn, try new things, and hopefully we’ll do it even better next year.

I’m still thinking the gorilla suit wearing in one room record. We could have a gorilla ball one night, dress up our suits, and have us a party…all while breaking a record.

Lighten up on Ginny. She’s taken a step back to see we did what we did because we had to.

Ginny, just be ready for the ear worm…shuffle, back, hop, hop, forward, turn look, stare, stare, down ha, down ha, down ha…if you’re doing TTW, that is the most blessed and evil ear worm that lasts for days.

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DW

September 9th, 2009
12:17 am

Anything and everything about Dragon Con rocks, there is no knocking the CON that’s why its the best party around its all positive and excellent FUN, enough said…..

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whywelaughatdragoncon

September 9th, 2009
12:18 am

chill out dragoncon nerds

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 9th, 2009
1:14 am

Just the kind of insight I was looking for to get the conversation started. Thanks, Lain. :)

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 9th, 2009
1:19 am

Hey everybody, I appreciate the enthusiasm you’re bringing this conversation, but let’s keep this respectful and on-topic. This is a place for conversation, not anonymous insults. Thanks!

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W.F.

September 9th, 2009
3:53 am

Ginny = Fail

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W.F.

September 9th, 2009
4:03 am

JTK and Ginny are the last of a dyeing race of lamers and jock rednecks that are completely unaware of the hotties and parties that are Dragoncon. Which is fine, we don’t want you at our party anyways.

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Patterson

September 9th, 2009
5:15 am

903 dancing virgins eh? Funny, in registration line they were passing out free condoms, and EVERYONE wanted one! Not a virgin in sight!

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bbv

September 9th, 2009
6:05 am

I do not know about a “thriller dance record”, but I know they broke a record for “largest number of people gathered who have never been on a date”.

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bbv

September 9th, 2009
6:20 am

just kidding, feeding the stereotype.Cool party

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Debbie

September 9th, 2009
6:42 am

Ginny, They are more into dressing like gouls. IT’S DRAGON CON! Not a Michael Jackson festival. Although I do agree it was pretty lame and also should have been done a Woodruff, Piedmont or Centennial Park.

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M.

September 9th, 2009
8:38 am

Three of my friends were at DragonCon this weekend, in fact one of them is in the first video at the top of the page dancing (she’s also in one of the pictures). It looks like they had fun, including the giant silver hand… Wish I could have been there. :-) They look pretty coordinated for being a group of 900 and some people, lol.

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Atlanta_Tiger_Fan

September 9th, 2009
9:14 am

This past weekend Atlanta hosted College football games, Braves game, and major Nascar race. And let’s not forget the Dracon*Con fair……there’s always something to do in Atlanta area!

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Doug

September 9th, 2009
9:15 am

Jamie Gumbrecht – your article is trollish. Atlanta makes the top ten and you start by saying, “Apparently we’re not the most fun city in the United States, nor are we among the top five cities. Atlanta isn’t even the best spot in the southeast to have a good time” Silly woman you are!!!

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Harold

September 9th, 2009
9:33 am

Apparently Forbes forgot about the DUI factor present in any sort of fun in this sheet hole that pretends to be a city. What good are all the bars and nightclubs if you have to teetotal for the drive home? We need to stop treating public transportation as poor-only transportation. Build it everywhere and it increases petty crime nowhere. Even with some potentially added petty crime, wouldn’t it be worth the lives saved from our almost daily traffic fatalities?

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DBH

September 9th, 2009
9:43 am

The thing is that Atlanta isn’t supposed to be New York or Chicago (and never will be!) That’s why I love Atlanta so much – because it’s NOT either of those places; it’s distinct and different in its own right. If I want to experience what Chicago or New York or Los Angeles is like, I can just go there.

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anon

September 9th, 2009
9:44 am

@Ginny
This is at a convention. the only space outside is in the middle of the streets of Atlanta. I mean they could, but I’m sure the police that are already trying to control the mass of 30,000 people between the 4 hotels would stop them promptly.

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JohnF

September 9th, 2009
9:45 am

I’ve lived in Atlanta since 1986. If you are young (and mostly single) and don’t mind driving most places, Atlanta is a blast. Once you get older and develop more mature taste though…there’s just not that much to do.

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Megi

September 9th, 2009
9:50 am

@JTK Lol, wow, virgins huh? You must not know anything about this little con of ours at all… or what happens at night… Or maybe you’ve heard about the parties and are just sad that we would never let someone like you come close to touching any of us. I mean, you do realize a large percentage of Dragon*Con attendees are really hot women wearing leather or super revealing costumes, right? Oh, I guess not…
@ Pretty much everyone else, you all rule! I was unfortunately too busy as staff to join you all and will forever be jealous! You all rock!

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Star Wars Fans

September 9th, 2009
9:50 am

I went downt to Dragon with my son and he is the BIGGEST Star Wars fan I know – he had a BLAST! We took pictures with Darth Vader, Boba Fett, Chewbacca, R2D2, Darth Maul and some more Star Wars characters I cant even name.We cant wait fo next year!!

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Sanjeev

September 9th, 2009
10:01 am

JohnF – there is plenty to do. Ever been to the High Museum? Fernbank for the movies? Woodruf? Atlanta History Museum? Then there are things like Dave & Busters, Andretti, bowling, movies, parks, nature trails. If you enjoy eating out there are hundreds of restaurants of just about every ethnic food.

Atlanta nightlife is not it used to be before all the muggings and shootings in Buckhead. We used to have one of the most unique nightspots in the country but then people started to move in town in great numbers and didn’t like the traffic and noise. Mayor Franklin changed the 24 hour rule and made everyone else shut down earlier didn’t help either. We are years removed from the clubbing section of Buckhead, yet out of towners always want to go down there.

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Aaron

September 9th, 2009
10:20 am

This is hilarious! Atlanta a fun city? What is fun about it now that the thugs ruined it? Decatur was nice back in the day, that is long gone. Buckhead as we know used to be fun, but they invaded Buckhead, caused crime, and screwed that up. Underground used to be cool but now is a gathering for the thugs. Midtown is OK but can get very dangerous at night. The only thing left for us normal people are The Highlands. I am sure it is only a matter of time before the thugs screw that up as well. They are doing a great job at Tech and GSU!

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BigBoomNY

September 9th, 2009
10:30 am

OF course we can all see who is first. Big Apple BABY…

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Philadelphia Phil

September 9th, 2009
10:37 am

This joint is the pits.

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Ry

September 9th, 2009
10:39 am

We rocked
We rocked HARD!
(Some of us old folks hurt body parts)
I was next to Storm (Marvel Comics), 4 bodies to the left of me was Alien rocking the dance floor, Super Mario wasn’t far away, and the Stormtroopers…IN FULL ARMOR…amazing.
Links to Thriller training were available online, but I think most of us took advantage of the 2 training sessions held in hallways & meeting rooms, taught by volunteers (we had MJ himself…if you read this, you were GREAT) who were as excited as we were. Hotel air conditioning systems couldn’t keep up with the thousand of us training, training, training. (”Shoulder-step-shoulder-shoulder”)
stepping on each other
(”walk walk roar-turn roar-turn roar-turn”)
laughing hysterically, sweating and giving it all we had to learn our part and be a part of this attempt.
For the rest of my life I’ll remember the browncoats bustin’ a move, Progressive’s Flo in her white outfit shakin’ it down and Michael Jackson up on stage thrillin’ us all
…and to all the haters, I agree with Patterson…BEAT IT!

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DJ

September 9th, 2009
10:41 am

I moved here in 1983. Without sounding like a an old geezer, back then Atlanta was THE place to be: young, clean, fresh, and poised for greatness. How many people – residents and visitors alike – think of Atlanta in those terms now?

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Ry

September 9th, 2009
10:48 am

Debbie,
hun, seriously…have you ever tried a very physical activity…outdoors…literally for hours? It took a solid 2-3 hours of practice/practice/practice…then ANOTHER practice session before the attempt (would have been 2 practices, but we were so psyched after the first we went for it). Also, none of the parks were on *Con grounds.
I think all of us would have preferred more elbow room, but the rules were the rules.

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TI

September 9th, 2009
10:59 am

Oh I remember the days, when Buckhead was fun. Backstreet was open, then hurricane Katrina came and sprayed all the trash to Atlanta and hasn’t been the same since. Shhhhh about the V.Higlands, don’t want that to be ruined as well. Oh and Philly is the pits to Philadelphia Phil!!

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Albearto

September 9th, 2009
11:07 am

Atlanta with its big-city anonymity, its gentrification, and huge population base has some serious problems taking root that seem to be about to run away like fertilized kudzu. How many more students need to be robbed at Ga Tech or Ga State? How many innocent people should die from stray bullets? I think for ATL to even be in the midst of the rankings of some of these great cities is skewered.

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Dreux

September 9th, 2009
11:11 am

If Atlanta is such a “fun” city, then why do tourists and conventioneers always list it dead last in places they’d like to go?

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Mike

September 9th, 2009
11:12 am

Steve0 – I try to have an open mind about people and really make an attempt to treat everyone fair and equal, until I read stuff like what you posted. Then I realize what the point in trying so hard. We’ll never change our perception or your view. You take a small portion of blk people and blame it on us all. I see plenty of white crack-heads and meth-heads downtown, but I guess you’re not scared of them, only the black ones? I understand some white people are afraid how “there” country changes and most minorities what the place to continue changing! With that said I can’t wait until 50, 60, 80 years down the line when white people WILL be the monitory, let’s see if you can take it as much as you can give it!

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Cutty

September 9th, 2009
11:14 am

Students are getting ROBBED at Tech and State. Students are being KILLED in the AUC. Seems like only the ones getting robbed matters.

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Eric

September 9th, 2009
11:24 am

I am 40 and lived most of my life in Atlanta, its a fun town, all the sports, concerts and all. But if you lived most of your life in one place, you get burned out on it. I want the beach :) I’m burnt if people just moved here, I’m sure they love it, after 40 years it gets old.

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You MUST be kidding

September 9th, 2009
11:40 am

Atlanta is boring as hell is hott!

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Mark

September 9th, 2009
11:41 am

I live in Atlanta, but recently took a trip to New Orleans. Now THAT is a fun town. Surprised it didn’t make the list.

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MiamiDolphins2010SBowl!!!

September 9th, 2009
11:42 am

I lived in boston i lived in orlando i lived in nc i lived in chattanooga, and miami. Atlanta has gone down hill i am only 30, but too many robbies , and traffic is horrible. There way too many black people and there no diversity at all here. Highlands is ok , it the only safe place, but way too far to drive from john’s creek even when i dont drink anymore it the other people on the road. i am leaving soon prob off to chitown for work. Th job situation here sucks too that big thing women come, and go you can find them in chattanooga, nc anywhere, so that not a big deal. i am from here and atlanta is not great city anmymore.

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correcting

September 9th, 2009
11:42 am

Mike/Weezie – pretty sure I read a lot of sarcasm dripping throughout Steve0’s comment. I don’t usually give all that much credit to these comments, but I think he’s making fun of those who drive 45 minutes from the suburbs to come to party in the “safe” areas intown and scurry right back out there as soon as possible.

Also, Harold, though I like where you’re going with the public transportation argument, the assumption that transit brings crime is a little off-putting. Do people really take the bus to go break into houses? Or hop on after a little late-night mugging?

Me, I love Atlanta, ride my bike to the bars, see all sorts of options for fun and varied things to do here. Great city. You’ve just gotta remember that the cities OTP are not Atlanta…

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 9th, 2009
11:52 am

Hey folks: this is a blog about fun in Atlanta. We’re not talking about race, and we’re absolutely not tossing around stereotypes of entire groups of people. Stay on topoic, be respectful in the comments or take your hate somewhere else.

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Kevin

September 9th, 2009
11:55 am

Wow…I challenge ALL of you who have said negative things about Atlanta so say 2 positive things about city….if it was THAT bad, then why don’t you leave? It’s people like you that give Atlanta the reputation it has….

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Kevin

September 9th, 2009
11:58 am

For all of you who have something negative to say about Atlanta, I challenge you to come up with 2 positive things to say about the city. Everyone can always complain and blame the other person, but never want to do anything about that problem. if you hate it so much, what’s stopping you from leaving?

I think Atlanta is a a fun city-if you know where to look.

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Steve0

September 9th, 2009
12:01 pm

correcting- I’m glad someone got it. Personally, I’m glad that suburban dorks only go to the Highlands. It keeps them away from the cool stuff. I liked it better when they were isolated in Buckhead, but then the Buckhead money used the SCARY SCARY NEGROES to shut down the bars. It’s hilarious that the easily scared and the stupid fell for the ruse.

So the Buckhead club people pushed into Midtown (although Midtown always had a club scene, it used to be more fun), the aging fratboys pushed into the Highlands, and the black people moved to Castleberry Hill. The aging fratboys pushed the Highlands people into L5P, which pushed the L5P hipsters into Cabbagetown and East Atlanta.

And Decatur and Poncey Higlands really hasn’t changed in 10 years, except for the loss of Trackside. It’s the circle of party life.

And what’s with every fratboy wandering into the Clermont and jacking up the price. The cover has been going steadily up for at least 7 years. It used to be free on Friday, damnit!

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Greg Miller

September 9th, 2009
12:04 pm

What happened to “The Midtown Mile” idea – to raise Peachtree Street to world class status like Michigan Avenue in Chicago or Park Avenue in New York?

Does opening Vision Nightclub on Peachtree Street help to raise Peachtree to world class status?

I am from Chicago and Michigan Avenue is the place you go for world class shopping, dining, and lodging… not for nightclubs. You go to Rush Street for that.

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TBizzle

September 9th, 2009
12:06 pm

Atlanta doesn’t have anything that truly separates itself from other cities. Sure, it has all of the normal big city amentities you would expect, but Atlanta is seriously lacking a unique factor.

The best thing about Atlanta is that you can easily fly to other cities or drive 5 hours to Florida and SC beaches.

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September 9th, 2009
12:12 pm

Oh look there, somebody through in a race card. Too Many Black People. I’m white and that’s horrible for somebody to say something like that. No diversity here? Go WALK down Buford highway and there will be your diversity. Makes no sense for somebody to say that. In response to the message board. I feel Atlanta is still a fun and great city for visitors as is NY, LA, Miami. I will never ever live in those cities. Too much going on, not good for a family, way to expensive. N.O. is fun as well, but I never live there, they’re still recovering. This is a great list though.

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Tammie

September 9th, 2009
12:21 pm

To all who were a part of the Dragon*Con event, y’all looked great! I’m really proud of our little *Con family coming together to have fun and honor the man himself. Anyone who’s never attended something like Dragon*Con really can’t be blammed for how they see us as an outsider. I hope some day those of you who’re putting all of us down, can attend and see the spectical for your selves.
And also speaking as a D*C Security Team member, getting that many people to do ANYTHING in a large group is pretty amazing! We’re all entitled to our opinions, and that’s what makes this a great place to live; Where else can 30,000 people come together to celebrate their “Inner Geek”, honor “The King Of Pop”, AND have others shake their heads in disbelief at us all…and no one be killed or sent to prison over it?
So, speak out if you must and don’t feel ashamed of who you are! I’m proud to say that the lead MJ, aka Patterson, is one of my dearest friends; I’m also thankful that there are people out there who’re confidant enough to point out to us how silly we are…that’s what makes it fun!!

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Duluth, GA

September 9th, 2009
12:22 pm

MiamiDolphins2010SBowl!!!, I believe you just want some attention. Go stand in a corner or something. Anyway, I believe Atlanta is a great place and it definately is a fun city. I have been to many cities in the U.S and I personally believe that Atlanta is ranked correctly (# 6). If you cannot find anything to do in this city, then something is wrong with you!

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Truth

September 9th, 2009
12:22 pm

Wow – I am ready to chip in for your ticket out of town.

MiamiDolphins2010SBowl!!!
“There way too many black people and there no diversity at all here.”
Are there too many Asians in San Francisco?

How can you take this list seriously when San Fran made list and Vegas did not. Anyway, Atlanta has pro sports (that are finally improving go Falcons, Hawks are young and good) College sports, great colleges / universities (yes great despite the North East bias in ranking schools) good music / arts scene, nice sky line, good restaurants and friendlier people than any city ahead of Atlanta on the list. I appreciate Atlanta more now that I do not live there anymore. Crime and traffic are problems. Expanded MARTA and tougher / smarter policing and dynamic leadership in the office of the mayor is what is needed.

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Duluth, GA

September 9th, 2009
12:26 pm

Truth, this is how they came up with the rankings, “In the story, Forbes said it calculated the rankings using metropolitan statistical areas and stats from AOL City Guides for bars, restaurants, nightclubs, live theater venues, museums and sporting venues, then added in sports teams and previous Best Cities for the Outdoors rankings. These aren’t per capita rankings, so it favors more populous cities, but also points out that, hey: New York is big, there’s a lot going on and you get to pick from all of it, not just your statistical allotment of sports bars and community theaters.”

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Leffy

September 9th, 2009
12:50 pm

i missed most of D*C despite having a membership this year due to sitter emergencies (did make it for a couple hours friday!) and missing this especially has left me heartbroken out of all the scheduled events. are we doing it again next year? even without the joy of a world record attempt, i would SO love to do this! heck just showing my daughter the video she caught on to a couple moves, so i might even drag her along for more then the parade and the costumes and art!

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Dr. Warren

September 9th, 2009
12:50 pm

Hey Jamie–wouldn’t “hatred” be the more appropriate word to use? Proper English should be the rule in a major newspaper, no?

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Truth

September 9th, 2009
1:03 pm

Duluth – Thanks for the info (informative and civil, much appreciated) . I am of the opinion that the only thing Atlanta really lacks is proximity to water. (I also must admit I do not get the appeal of San Francisco. Nice yes, fun I would need to see more. I know they have some odd festivals)

I guess I have a problem with the methodology – New York is big, there is a lot going on, true. If there are 3000 good places to eat in NY and lets say 750 in Atlanta, that is still a two year supply of places to eat without going back to any of the ones you have already tried and really liked. More can sometimes equal better but at a point more is just more. That said, I have no REAL problem with the rankings. Almost all major shows / concert tours eventually some to Atlanta. I love NY but there are a significant number of people who would never feel comfortable in NYC just because of the sheer size (Some people LOVE NYC for that very reason and for them there is no substitute and I definitely understand that). How can those other people have fun if they don’t even feel comfortable. Atlanta is on a scale most people can handle and it also less expensive. You can also head into Atlanta grab a hotel room hit some bars / lounge visit a museum or two it does not cost a fortune.

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Tony Gowell

September 9th, 2009
1:08 pm

Yes. We will be doing this again, and other comparable scifi/fantasy attempts as we discover them.

Asst Director
Main Programming
Dragon*Con

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transplanted

September 9th, 2009
1:14 pm

I wish I was in Atlanta. I live in Dallas now because of job. Atlanta is a great city with many nice people. Just look at the front page and entertainment section of the local paper and decide for yourself.

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Truth

September 9th, 2009
1:16 pm

Duluth – Thanks for the info (informative and civil, much appreciated) . I am of the opinion that the only thing Atlanta really lacks is proximity to water. (I also must admit I do not get the appeal of San Francisco. Nice yes, fun I would need to see more. I know they have some odd festivals)

I guess I have a problem with the methodology – New York is big, there is a lot going on, true. If there are 3000 good places to eat in NY and lets say 750 in Atlanta, that is still a two year supply of places to eat without going back to any of the ones you have already tried and really liked. More can sometimes equal better but at a point more is just more. That said, I have no REAL problem with the rankings. Almost all major shows / concert tours eventually some to Atlanta. I love NY but there are a significant number of people who would never feel comfortable in NYC just because of the sheer size (Some people LOVE NYC for that very reason and for them there is no substitute and I definitely understand that). How can those other people have fun if they don’t even feel comfortable. Atlanta is on a scale most people can handle and it also less expensive. You can also head into Atlanta grab a hotel room hit some bars / lounge visit a museum or two it does not cost a fortune

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miss marta

September 9th, 2009
1:28 pm

i love atlanta! i’m from the midwest, and have been here for about 15 years. what i love is there is always something to do. i love live music, and atlanta is known for having a thriving music scene. it’s a shame that buckhead (or buckhood as it turned out to be) is gone, because it was fun to go out and bar hop with friends. but the place got downright trashy, especially some of the bars – bar and mako’s anybody? – and all the sunday/monday night shootings. that hasn’t stopped me from hitting up east atlanta, midtown, grant park, little five, va-hi, all great parts of town in their own right.

who doesn’t like sitting at turner field on beautiful sunny afternoon and clear night and taking in a braves game? we have professional football, basketball, and hockey as well. choose one or all of them. i’ve never had a bad time at any of them.

but i live in the city. most people don’t, and a lot of people commenting here don’t live in atlanta – JOHN’S CREEK IS NOT ATLANTA. there are events every day and night of the week here. i chose city life over suburban life for the career, cultural and social opportunities, and i haven’t been let down.

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miss marta

September 9th, 2009
1:32 pm

i forgot to mention dad’s garage. BIG ups to awesome improv comedy!!

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Candy

September 9th, 2009
1:38 pm

I was there and it was really something amazing to participate in! Thanks to all the volunteers and everyone who put this together. Can’t wait to do it again next year.
If you weren’t there, then you just don’t understand the amount of work, effort and practice the whole event took!

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Jeff

September 9th, 2009
1:45 pm

TI, either you are a moron or have never been to Philly. There is much more history, culture, art, theater, etc. than there is or ever will be in this sunbelt city.

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Norwood

September 9th, 2009
2:04 pm

MiamiDolphins2010SBowl!!! – Too many black people?? You have issues and should probably leave. That’s cool, go on up to Chicago. There will be some black people waiting to welcome you…..

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Truth

September 9th, 2009
2:15 pm

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Momma D @ 3princessesmomma.com

September 9th, 2009
2:25 pm

My daughter was part of this. She was so excited, and it was one of the high points of her first Dragon*con experience. :) Thanks to the organizers!

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WERKIN FOR A LIVIN

September 9th, 2009
2:56 pm

looks like nerds dont like critcisem

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Wednesday WindDown

September 9th, 2009
3:25 pm

Centennial Olympic Park (Southern Company Amphitheater) FREE concert: The Infinity Show Band @ 5:30 pm ET. http://www.centennialpark.com/events/wwd.html

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Lil'Az

September 9th, 2009
4:05 pm

I was working it; blocking a light tower because people kept running into it.
It was fun, even for the short time I was there.
If we attempt it next time, I’m definitely taking time out of my busy shifts to actually participate.
=D

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btpsmom

September 9th, 2009
4:41 pm

Ginny, I think you are a jerk.

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Irma

September 9th, 2009
4:59 pm

Don’t even tell me this won’t count! I have never learned a dance routine in 3 hrs! I had “Evie” as my instructor and even though I danced into the pillar infront of the elevator (I was the one dressed as Dorothy), I would totally do this all over again! (with a change of clothes though…)

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Kimber

September 9th, 2009
5:22 pm

@Tony — Yes, yes we are. I say let’s out record Mexico! Go nerds!!

And I have to ROFLMAO off on the “virgin” comment. Um, yea, google for some pics and you’ll see why the kids are put to bed early and we have a track called DragonCon After Dark.

I’m already plotting for next year. :) I just hope my crew from this year will be with us again.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 9th, 2009
6:11 pm

Thanks for the suggestion!

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Amanda

September 9th, 2009
6:57 pm

I also participated in the Thriller record attempt at Dragon*Con. Regardless of what the results are, I feel bonded to the other 902 people who participated as we worked our butts off to learn that dance. It was a great tribute to MJ, and I will never forget it! Nobody has the right to rain on that, nor can they because it was just too monumental to be destroyed by one whiny individual.

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AH

September 9th, 2009
8:25 pm

what about a freakin’ list of the vendors and a map?

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Shannon, M.Div.

September 9th, 2009
9:22 pm

It’s such a shame that our early space program is marred by sexism. Female pilots such as Jerrie Cobb were outperforming the men in 1961’s astronaut training. They were highly qualified, but they were all summarily fired from the program with no explanation. Congress held hearings on it–but Congress at that time was still a boys’ club. Quotes like this one ruled the day: “The fact that women are not in this field is a fact of our social order.” That quote, of course, is from John Glenn’s testimony.

Always remember the Mercury 13. For me, it forever taints the achievements of the early boys who made it into space and walked on the moon. They didn’t trust themselves to compete against women, so they went behind the scenes and had the women taken out.

The worst travesty, of course, was sending Glenn back instead of Cobb in 1998 (Cobb made a strong push for the opportunity that had been denied her).

Here’s a nice, succinct summary of the events: http://www.mtholyoke.edu/offices/comm/oped/Ackmann.shtml

For those who are interested, there’s plenty of information on the ‘Net, including detailed quotes from the horrifying Congressional hearings.

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aaron

September 9th, 2009
9:48 pm

Yes, Ginny is uninformed. But she is allowed her opinions.

Me? I would have loved to have done it ourdoors. But we didn’t. No big deal. I wouldn’t trade it for the world. If you look in that video I would hazard that very few are trained dancers and some of us look like we have no clue on what we are doing. Especially me…I’m the uncoordinated dork with the white pith helmet and Jumanji outfit. (Just my luck. The bit of footage with me in it is the bit of the dance that our instructor didn’t get around to teaching. Oh well, fake it till you make it.)

But, I had great time. It was hot. It was humid. It was frustrating at times. But most of all it was fun. Lots and Lots of fun. Which is what this was about for me.

I forgive the unknowing for their bashing of D*C. The poor fools know not what they are missing. Unless you’ve been, it’s like describing the sky to a blind person. Virgins? heh… until they’ve had a gorgeous girl in a Slave Leia outfit (Or insert suitable male refence for you wonderful women, here) drag them to a hotel room and commit unspeakable sin with them. You haven’t lived..

To them we’re a bunch of silly nerds that have no lives and live in our parent basements.

To us? These people are of the worst ilk and I label them with the worst insult I could pin upon a person….

Normal

and I pity them….how boring life must be…

To Kimber and the crew…Kudos for your vision and tenacity. You are all models and visionaries. Thank you for allowing us to join you in your journey I am truly honored.

(Ps… the dang ear worm is still in my head… roarturn,roarturn…)

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Not Going To Use My Usual Name

September 9th, 2009
10:39 pm

Jamie said, “We’re not talking about race.”

Honestly, I don’t think you can talk about anything in Atlanta in any depth without talking about race, and that would include entertainment. Neighborhoods are still largely segregated, churches are *extremely* segregated, and even many entertainments are (voluntarily) segregated.

I believe Atlanta may have made the list because it’s a vibrant place for people of color.

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Christine

September 9th, 2009
11:06 pm

And don’t forget the booty, bounce…booty, bounce!

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Christine

September 9th, 2009
11:17 pm

Kimber, forgot to say thank you for organizing this. My brother and I participated and it was a blast. If you try this or something else next year, you have your first volunteer. Anyone who can pull this off is someone I want to work with. Oh yeah, and booty, bounce…booty, bounce.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 10th, 2009
12:23 am

AH, there isn’t a list of vendors or map that I can link to online, but as I said above, this is the first year there will be a program that lists vendor names and locations. They’ll be available at the festival!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 10th, 2009
12:33 am

Not Going To Use My Usual Name — you make a very good point, but unfortunately, the blog comment areas on AJC.com and AccessAtlanta.com haven’t proven themselves to be an effective forum to discuss race. Perhaps this is because we allow anonymous comments, or because we don’t have enough time or people to engage in a weightier conversation. Regardless, my choice is to keep the discussion on a level more appropriate to this venue, and in other posts, we’ve seen interesting ideas about entertainment emerge by keeping race and politics out of the discussion. Thanks for the thoughtful points, though!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 10th, 2009
12:41 am

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

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ss

September 10th, 2009
7:07 am

mj never dies.he is still alive.beleave me, its true.

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ss

September 10th, 2009
7:11 am

if u respect our king mj,HEEL THE WORLD,MAKE IT BETTER PLACE.our spirits never die.

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I Darnall

September 10th, 2009
9:05 am

It’s from a painting at the High Museum

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pblsn

September 10th, 2009
9:13 am

it’s the bottom of my shoe.

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old teach

September 10th, 2009
9:26 am

Close up of part of Colonel Sanders jacket on KFC sign…..could be anywhere.

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farmer

September 10th, 2009
9:32 am

It’s from a painting at the Atlanta cyclorama.

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Melissa

September 10th, 2009
9:41 am

I’m guessing the Cyclorama.

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Grant Parker

September 10th, 2009
9:48 am

The Southern Museum in Kennesaw.

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Jonas Sisters

September 10th, 2009
10:05 am

Did you get this idea from the Today Show, Where am I? On the show the will show pictures and you have to guess where they are…very original…but fun. That’s just my opinion.

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woody

September 10th, 2009
10:34 am

Steelers(6 X Super Champs) Vs Titans Tonight, pregame starts @ 5pm.

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Bob

September 10th, 2009
10:56 am

Ginny, Ginny, Ginny…

Sad is the fact that you think you have the right to tell a thousand people how and where to BREAK A WORLD RECORD.

Sad is the fact that you feel you have to bring other people down via the anonymity of the internet.

Sad is the fact that you weren’t involved in something this awesome.

Buh-Bye, now.

Bob

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 10th, 2009
11:06 am

Ha, I’m not a Today Show watcher, Jonas Sisters, but I know plenty of outlets do similar games and contests. I just started doing this so we’d have another outlet to talk about interesting places around Atlanta.

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Bob

September 10th, 2009
11:12 am

Ginny.

I have to apologize to you. I responded to the thread without reading it first and as a participant in this event I’m a bit protective of it.

I’m glad that you finally saw our point and what we were trying to do.

THere are a few others on here that need to possibly attend Dragon*Con and see what a giant party it is for themselves before dismissing us as nerds and virgins.

Besides. Nerds are hot.

Bob

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CHRIS JACKSON

September 10th, 2009
11:44 am

this is located at turner field for the braves,the indian tent.that’s what it look like to me.

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Merideth Ford

September 10th, 2009
12:07 pm

It’s my ego…..

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D. Sechard

September 10th, 2009
12:20 pm

It’s flattering for Atlanta to be ranked No. 6, but let’s face it, rankings like this are useless. Forbes aggregated the attractions in metro areas, and that type of methodology doesn’t really capture the essence of a city. Atlanta is very fragmented – you have to drive wide distances to have fun (ie go to a restaurant in Midtown, drive to Buckhead for shopping, then back to Little Five Points or the Highlands for nightlife). Unlike true cities, like Chicago and San Francisco, there’s no density in Atlanta. There are just small pockets of activity. For instance, go to Midtown and walk a block from Peachtree Street and it thins out so fast that you’re already out of the city!

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phillip watson

September 10th, 2009
1:11 pm

Shirley Franklin single- handedly took the Hot out of Hotlanta. Abbreviated bars hours diluted our night life and made the city less attractive to conventioneers (25% off this year). For a city that is usually begging for money (discounting, of course, those federal grants that went unspent), those convention dollars are sorely missed. And what about the tens of millions of dollars lost from throwing all major events out of Piedmont Park. It takes YEARS to build attendance at any sort of annual festival. At least we have a fantastic airport so that those of us who enjoy “fun cities” can fly to them.

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Jaw Jaw Dawg

September 10th, 2009
1:23 pm

It is man’s jacket ~ notice the buttons on a white shirt to the left, then the jacket’s lapel followed by a pocket scarf and finally, the arm of the jacket. I can’t place the painting. But perhaps since it is appears to be historical clothing, it could be found in a museum? Can anyone build on this hypothesis?

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Johnny Fontane

September 10th, 2009
1:28 pm

Inside the KFC at the Big Chicken

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Find a Better Game

September 10th, 2009
1:32 pm

It’s a picture of a stupid game and it’s located next to … oh wait this is a stupid game – who cares where it is.

I’d rather find waldo.

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Lee in TN

September 10th, 2009
1:44 pm

is it a patch on military clothing?

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Laraine

September 10th, 2009
2:26 pm

Grant Park — Cyclorama

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wishuhadit

September 10th, 2009
2:34 pm

the missing symbol needed to re-open the stargate?

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Mayan Rose

September 10th, 2009
2:49 pm

BPJ

September 10th, 2009
3:07 pm

Fun in Atlanta includes Horizon Theatre, Actors’ Express, Theatrical Outfit, the (Tony-winning) Alliance, 7 Stages, TWO Shakespeare companies (Atlanta Shakes Downtown and Ga. Shakes in Buckhead), PushPush, Synchronicity, True Colors, Theatre in the Square, and Dad’s Garage! Unlike the other cities on the list, we even have a French-language theatre, Theatre du Reve.

Check out the High (not just the high-profile exhibits), the Carlos, the Atlanta Contemporary Art Center, Spelman Museum, MOCAGA, Oglethorpe Museum, MODA……….and galleries such as Marcia Wood, Solomon Projects, Sandler Hudson, Saltworks, Kiang, Jackson (for photo), Lumiere (also photo), and Barbara Archer.

Check out the superb symphony, and the best-on-the-planet ASO Chorus.
Listen to jazz at Churchill Grounds and blues at Blind Willie’s. Eat at any of the 100 best restaurants around town. Stroll through Piedmont Park in the spring, or hike the Chattahoochie Nat’l Rec. area in fall. Visit the world’s largest aquarium, and one of the nation’s best zoos.

And if you’re frightened by fellow citizens because they’re black, please move to Alabama.

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Caren

September 10th, 2009
3:17 pm

haha, LilAz, you must have been near me. The ones in the front had very little room to dance because the first move is four steps to the front! Having you there made it easier for us to take little steps though because the people behind us stopped pushing up once you came over. :)

also, I owe Ginny an apology too for not seeing the later notes. Just as a side note, a true flash mob Thriller (as opposed to a GWR attempt!) would be easier for you to assemble once you have a large pool of people who know the choreography…just sayin’!

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Dee Sasser

September 10th, 2009
3:21 pm

Colonel Sanders Jacket on Painting at Big Chicken in Marietta, GA!

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Former Resident of ATL

September 10th, 2009
3:29 pm

Not Going To Use My Usual Name -Honestly, I don’t think you can talk about anything in Atlanta in any depth without talking about race, and that would include entertainment. Neighborhoods are still largely segregated, churches are *extremely* segregated, and even many entertainments are (voluntarily) segregated.

This is not unique to Atlanta race permeates even light weight fun discussions in other cities too. Some jerk messes up a fun / cool debate with a classless comment. Just like a few knuckleheads take areas that used to be fun and ruin it with their poor behavior (Underground, Buckhead, now Atlantic Station). The loud obnoxious guy at the bar, rude teenagers are allowed to ruin the good time for the majority. Anyway I think the heading is misleading, or the comments have veered of the subject matter. Is the city supposed to be fun or is it supposed to be a great place to live. New Orleans / Vegas are fun but necessarily places most want to live. A truly fun city probably has international appeal (NYC, Miami, Vegas) and has appeal across the racial and socioeconomic spectrum (Vegas).

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Former Resident of ATL

September 10th, 2009
3:34 pm

BBJ well said
BPJ = New head of the Board of Tourism

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Cribbster

September 10th, 2009
3:46 pm

I cannot believe they’re showing “Zardoz.” That’s the most whacked-out movie I’ve ever seen. It’s hands-down the dumbest movie John Boorman ever did, and it’s got Sean Connery is a big, red diaper for 90 minutes.

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[...] Maybe this week’s Access Points photo game was a little too detailed. Interesting guesses — it is, indeed, a painting that involves a man’s jacket — but nobody was able to correctly identify it as the Zell Miller portrait hanging at Manuel’s Tavern. [...]

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Debbie Roberts

September 10th, 2009
4:39 pm

I got a vendor list and booth space number on a pdf brochure from my “newsletter” from Stone Mountain Park. Sorry, I don’t have it with me, but I found it last week. None of that info was sent to me by Yellow Daisy, although that would have been nice,..it was an accident finding it.

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Norwood

September 10th, 2009
4:49 pm

BPJ AND Former Resident of ATL – Well said! Thank you both!!

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griftdrift

September 10th, 2009
5:00 pm

I’m a semi-regular there. Shocking. I know. I remember the missing Miller scandal. Also, originally there was only one picture of a naked lady. it was directly behind the bar and unless you know where to look, you’d probably miss it. That’s the one that the story goes a bar fly used to pay off his tab. It was a portrait of his wife. I noticed that after Manuel died, suddenly there were many more pictures of nekkid women on the walls. It’s fun to walk around and see all the different pictures. They keep old Hurman Talmedge by the ATM. Seems fitting.

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PTCGAL

September 10th, 2009
5:22 pm

Maybe the patrons at Manuel’s Tavern had too much to drink and do not remember

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mama sue

September 10th, 2009
8:23 pm

i wish i could have been there. i missed all of you and the con. looks like you had fun tho.

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Hilary

September 10th, 2009
8:49 pm

Go Nerds indeed! Talk about a wild party! I’ll have that choreography stuck in my head for years!

“Right hip, right hip, right hip, in, out, left hip, left hip, left hip in and ROAR!”

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Salem

September 11th, 2009
3:05 am

To my fellow D*C peeps: AMAZING JOB!!!! I had to leave for a few hours Sunday so I couldn’t be in the event, but I was bragging about it to all sorts of people! I’m linking this video all over the place to show folks what this group can do.
Breaking the world record? It couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of people. :)
To all the haters and naysayers: Back off. You obviously have never been remotely close to D*C or else you would realize your statements are utterly and completely false. (e.g joking that all 903 of those people have never been on dates. I personally know at least a dozen married couples that danced, and that’s not even the start of that)
And you know what? We *are* nerds. Not geeks. Know why? “Nerds are smart.” Beat it.

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Theresa

September 11th, 2009
7:03 am

Sadly, the enormous group that danced in Mexico danced the short version of the song- therefore, while impressive did not qualify for the Guinness world record.

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Donald D

September 11th, 2009
8:14 am

Go Falcons!!!!!!

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Brady

September 11th, 2009
2:46 pm

Thanks for the nice zombie picture and Zombie event invite! Zombies are drooling from http://ZombiePic.com

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BigFunATL

September 11th, 2009
5:46 pm

In this economy and these days, it’s not so much about where you live as it is about making the best of what you have and making the most of it. Every city is unique and gifted with different qualities and attractions that are unique to them and define who they are. For example, ATL is extremely blessed to have Stone Mountain and have a close proximity to the Flordia beaches. Environment, people, attractions, climate, etc. all play a role in defining a region, as well as the fact that every city or region has certain types of people that are attracted to that particular area.

At the end of the day, it’s what you make of it. I’ve been to every city listed above Atlanta on the list, and you can have just as much fun in Atlanta (if not more fun) as you can in any city on the list. It’s not called Hotlanta for nothing. NO, it’s not utopia, but no place is. And yes, crime and traffic are issues, just as they are in any city on that list, and any major city. However, our music scene is second to none, and many movies are starting to be made here. It is becoming the “Hollywood of the South.”

Just for the record the official word is…..ATL still is and will always be “the place to be.”

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Russ

September 11th, 2009
8:32 pm

Sorry, Shannon, but the Mercury 13 were not fired from any NASA program. Their training was privately funded and they were never employed by NASA as astronaut candidates.

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Joe

September 11th, 2009
9:18 pm

As a 59 year old participant (proof available upon request for both age and participation), I would love to say thank you to Kimber and the dance captains for herding us toward a great time. Shoulder step, nothing step, shoulder step, shoulder step. Went to Michael’s today and got a shadow box for my DragonCon badge and thriller ribbon. Used a piece of my costume as the background. Come on, folks. Come up with ways to secure this memory for yourselves as well.

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lawrence

September 12th, 2009
8:53 am

i watched the slave trade dvd in my class, i was touched to see what our african fathers and mothers went through.what touched me the most was “the doors of no return”,because mostly people left through those doors never to see their families and their countries again.

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Jerri P

September 12th, 2009
10:09 am

Well – is it fun?

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Roger D Smart

September 12th, 2009
10:29 am

We need our Atlanta Falcons to win this game! GO FALCONS

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Lee Raines

September 12th, 2009
3:50 pm

On my next trip to South Georgia my great-grandchildren will have the opportunity to visit the new museum to experience the excitement of seeing these pre-historic relics up close. This should develop into a must-stop tourist attraction for people passing by on nearby I-75.

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Matt the Brave

September 12th, 2009
5:34 pm

Who’d have thought that Cartersville would have TWO Smithsonian museums? Make sure to check out the Booth Western Art Museum in downtown Cartersville as well. Lots of things for both adults and children.

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bmoney

September 12th, 2009
5:49 pm

both Tellus and the Booth Western Art Museum are well worth a drive to visit

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Ashley K

September 12th, 2009
7:21 pm

Yellow Daisy is SO MUCH FUN!! The vendors are friendly, the festival designers try to vary the content and mix up the pattern, so there’s not too much of any one category (although it is heavy on the jewelry this year) in any one area. There are Venus flytraps, pirate maps, firestarters, dursy and other semi-precious or artistically rendered earrings, art metal glass, pendants, necklaces, paintings, chairs, step stools, kids clothes, dress-up, fairy wings, yard art, mirrors, metal work, birdhouses, weather vanes . . . . Watch for “Ashley & Mom” next year- our shirts match (they’ve got big daisies on them) and the vendors know us. If you want to know the best, best-priced, friendliest vendors- find us; we know them! (And they know us!) ;0)

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timeandtide

September 12th, 2009
11:35 pm

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dragon Con rocks. This was my first year attending although I’ve wanted to go for years but had not had the opportunity. I didn’t get to dance but I think the people that did were just great. I had the best time I’ve had in a long time and plan to make it back next year hopefully for the full four days. And yes I am called a geek or a nerd by my fellow co-workers but you know what. I’m proud of it. I’d rather not be normal, It’s too boring.

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[...] wrote earlier this week about what to know before you go to the Yellow Daisy Festival. Now that I’ve wandered the grounds of Stone Mountain Park myself, I have a few things to [...]

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Lissa

September 13th, 2009
3:36 am

Disappointment filled the air when we got to the Festival this year no little plastic bags where handed out to us just like in the past.

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Arizona Ann

September 13th, 2009
8:38 am

I have taken my grandchildren and my self there twice. A very fun experience for all. Don’t miss the Booth Museum while you are there. Some wonderful art and letters from every President, very cool.

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Thomas Eagle

September 13th, 2009
9:02 am

Tellus and the Booth are two outstanding attractions that help make the small town of Cartersville a cultural center in Georgia. What a shame that Etowah Mounds, one of the most important Native American sites in the country, has suffered from neglect from the state parks dept. which has reduced the opening hours to just three days a week while cutting back tours, programs and other services.

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Richard Bagge

September 13th, 2009
10:59 am

Tellus is indeed a great museum! My two kids – aged 10 and 12 – really liked the trip we made here this summer.

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JJ

September 13th, 2009
8:50 pm

I am responding to the Ginny; September 8th, 2009; 4:23 pm post.

I don’t think we could have done this outdoors without a lot of additional precautions. The space had to be closed off so that the dancers entering the dance space could be counted. There was a LOT of prep done before anyone was allowed to enter the room and during the process of getting dancers into the space.

It was also hard for anyone past the first couple rows to display their dance skills because each person was approximately 2 feet away from the next person in any direction.

I am also not completely sure on this, but I think that the Thriller dance records may have indoor and outdoor categories. Anyone else know?

I do know that there were a lot of specifics and a lot of paperwork to take care of in coordination with Guinness.

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Henry Co. Redneck

September 14th, 2009
6:40 am

Too bad it couldn’t last all week long.

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Becky Kicklighter

September 14th, 2009
11:20 am

I bought the grandparents membership the very first time I went last February, just after they opened. I have taken my grandchildren at least 6 times and every time we go, they do not want to leave! The museum is for everyone — from grandparents to small children! We love it and enjoy every visit!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 14th, 2009
12:15 pm

Ha, Becky and others: when I reported this story, I spent some time in the chlidren’s area, and for my first walk through, there were ONLY adults in there, not a child in sight. The “museum for everyone” tag seems to be holding up!

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Patrick

September 14th, 2009
4:23 pm

The Final game in the series (If Necessary) will be on Sunday, September 20th at 3pm, not Saturday.

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Paw Paw Callan

September 14th, 2009
5:10 pm

An excellent museum !!! Well worth stopping off the Interstate to see.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 14th, 2009
6:40 pm

Whoops, my mistake! Thanks, Patrick! Fixed!

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tinheart

September 15th, 2009
10:13 am

Thanks for the positive reporting on the Dream. A pity the Sports Department at the AJC won’t do the same.

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Leighanne

September 15th, 2009
10:35 am

I live out of state but i am from Atlanta and i went last year and bought some things from a man that personalized name plaques for kids rooms, bullitien boards for kids rooms, and yard signs and stuff like that. I didn’t get to go this year but I know he said he does it all year round and will accept orders. I didn’t know if someone knew him and had some info or knows where i could possibly find it..i’ve been trying to find the vendor list and can’t find it…

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Sue Rodman

September 15th, 2009
3:37 pm

We love Tellus. On Saturday Sept. 26, Tellus is part of the Smithsonian Magazine’s Museum Free Day. You can also check out the Booth Western Museum and Bartow Museum of History as part of the deal that day as well. Here’s a review of the museum that I did when it first opened last spring. http://www.fieldtripswithsue.com/2009/01/rocks-trucks-stars-spaceships-dinosaurs.html. The video isn’t as good as your photos, but it does give a different perspective.

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WERKIN FOR A LIVIN

September 16th, 2009
10:42 am

nerds dancin

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Christy Petterson

September 16th, 2009
11:26 am

Ah man, I knew it was at Manuels’ but couldn’t envision the whole image. Dang.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 16th, 2009
11:57 am

Ha, Christy, before the bar art tour, I’d probably looked at the thing 50 times without actively thinking, “Oh, right, Zell Miller.”

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[...] Sports: Atlanta Dream vs. Detroit Shock playoff game, 7:30 p.m., Gwinnett Arena, Atlanta. STORY. [...]

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sbodlovic

September 17th, 2009
8:42 am

Inside Access- “Things to do” segment is very informative and great reading.
Thank you for provide that segment to the AJC.

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[...] Stage: “The Color Purple” continues through Sept. 27, The Fox Theatre, Atlanta. STORY. [...]

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Call it like it is.

September 17th, 2009
9:26 am

“Place of a lifetime” Are you kidding me. Atlanta?? Traffic, crime, corruption, poor leadership. I have travel all around this world and Atlanta is not even in the top 100 places that I have gone to. How much did they pay off these guys to be listed.

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Suzie

September 17th, 2009
9:31 am

I was never happier than the day I left Atlanta. This must be some kind of joke. Atlanta is the one of the most racist, meanest cities I’ve ever lived in.

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Chris

September 17th, 2009
9:32 am

Ha ha ha. How funny. Let them spend a weekend downtown or in SW Atlanta and see how they like it. The only decent places in Atlanta are the park (in the daytime), most of Buckhead, and VA Highlands. The thugs have ruined the rest of it.

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Intown

September 17th, 2009
9:33 am

I too could not believe my eyes when I read this essay in NG Travler. Atlanta on a list of the 50 best places to visit around the world?!?! But, there we are. I suppose we made the list becasue Atlanta is a place to experience over time but, not one that delivers unique experiences to the traditional touristy traveler. I hope Alabama and Florida read this article so they can see the beauty they are now attempting to destroy and will not be able to replace on their own.

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lantana

September 17th, 2009
9:37 am

I’ve been in Atlanta 20 years and the city has been nothing but kind to me. I live in the East Village and adore my neighborhood for it natural beauty and convenience to everything a city should offer. If you are not happy in Atlanta, you are not trying!

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kw

September 17th, 2009
9:37 am

Call it…”Delta’s ready when you are”

Suzie…if you were so happy to leave Atlanta, then why the h*ll are you still reading Atlanta news websites like this one? Go read the news site in you own town now.

Yeah, Atlanta’s got traffic, crime and corruption…name me one large city that doesn’t have these. Traffic is just as bad in Washington, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc… Crime…go check out local tv websites in other cities, particularly Chicago lately…seems you cannot walk around Lincoln Park there without getting mugged lately. Corruption…do Richard Daley, Marion Barry, David Dinkins, Kwame Kirkpatrick, the former mayor of San Diego (whatever his name is) come to mind?

Yeah, we are not perfect. But it is nice to ready something positive about Atlanta after what seems like a year’s worth of negative this and negative that.

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Kevin

September 17th, 2009
9:41 am

Wow…I’m hearing a lot of negative things about Atlanta from previous posts….if it is so bad, why are you all still here that are complaining? Get over it.

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Nolan

September 17th, 2009
9:53 am

I’ve gotta say, I wasn’t happier than the day I returned to Atlanta (6/3/09) after living near Los Angeles for 3 years. Every day since I’ve been back has been awesome. Events, parks, shops, food, music, people, history, sports – hooray!

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Matt

September 17th, 2009
9:53 am

I agree with the first poster – The ATL is a mess.

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Brandon

September 17th, 2009
9:55 am

Atlanta certainly has strengths and faults as does any city, but its home for me. Where else but Atlanta does a light rail train come out of a subway and when you look out you see skyscrapers pooping out what looks like a vast forest. There is a unique and signature beauty in that I think. In fact the lack of trees is one of the first things i notice when i go elsewhere. Does Atlanta has its faults? yes. Does its metro and city center cooperate for the good of all? not really. But whos fault is that? is this not a republic? quit bitching about what is wrong and start moving to make things right. I have no time for those who bitch but never leave their homes after 5.

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RCD

September 17th, 2009
9:56 am

@KW – You are absolutely right. Every large city has mad corruption, crime, etc. For all of those out their, if you do not like it – get out. There are many of us that are working to make the city great. Embrace it or get the (&^$^ out.

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Rog The Barbarian

September 17th, 2009
9:58 am

I moved to Atlanta 15 years ago from NYC because I followed my job. I agree that this metro area has tremendous potential and is physically beautiful. What’s holding this city back is the total lack of leadership at all levels. Everybody’s looking out for themselves without regard for the big picture at the state and local levels. People used to be nicer here – no longer. Don’t mention you’re from anywhere North – you’ll be treated negatively. Too bad because this city has so much potential. This could be one of the world’s great cities if the people that live here and the people that govern weren’t so selfish.

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Call it like it is.

September 17th, 2009
9:58 am

“KW” You prove my point. I wouldnt list Chicago, Los Angeles or any other major US city. To list Atlanta as a top 50 place to hit in this entire world is a joke. I will be honest I havent read the article, but I bet most of the fun things they list, is not even in Atlanta.

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Rog The Barbarian

September 17th, 2009
10:03 am

I want the people in this metro to stand up and change the way things are. Treat each other with respect. If you’re in business, stop trying to rob consumers by charging top dollar for substandard service. State goverment, stop all the bickering and fighting and find a way to fund mass transit so people can get around. We need to get the rest of this country and this world to admire Atlanta again.

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Chris

September 17th, 2009
10:07 am

New York, Chicago, San Fran, Seattle, Nashville, Orlando, Dallas, Minneapolis, all have a downtown, nice, mostly safe, with lots to do. Tell me what downtown Atlanta has besides the aquarium which will be run down in no time. Who wants to be in downtown Atlanta at night? All of the other cities have so much more to offer.

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Joe

September 17th, 2009
10:12 am

I have lived in Atlanta since 1980 and in my opinion it all went to crap after the Olympics.

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Buh-bye

September 17th, 2009
10:15 am

Suzie – we’re glad you’re gone, too. I think your leaving is one of the reasons Atlanta made the list. We got rid of you just in time.

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kw

September 17th, 2009
10:28 am

Uh, Call it…I just read the article and EVERYTHING they list except for the Cobb Energy Centre is IN the city limits of Atlanta.

Chris…okay, we don’t have the best downtown in the US, but it has gotten a lot better in the 17 years I have lived here. Besides the Aquarium, you have the entire Centennial Park area which 15 years ago was an empty area of sketchy warehouses. Now, we go down for dinner at places like Legal Seafoods, Stats, etc… at least once a month. And we go at night, and no, we don’t feel threatened. Yeah, you might get panhandled…so what, I’ve been panhandled everywhere from SF to London. And the neighborhoods to the north and east of downtown have lots of unique restaurants, shops, etc…

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Sunshine

September 17th, 2009
10:28 am

Yeah, Suzie – spread your mean-spirited racist propaganda somewhere else, not here. We’re too busy to hate.

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Mark

September 17th, 2009
10:33 am

Presumably, the Natl Geographic author of this article is not a resident. And that leads me to this hypothesis: Atlanta makes a great impression on VISITORS – especially those that are visiting friends or family (as opposed to coming here alone on business or a convention). That’s what gets us on these lists. I know in the late 80’s, when I first started visiting Atlanta in college, I got hooked on “the lifestyle.” So much so that I moved here. Now, 20 years later, I’ve come to know all the troubles we have that a 4-day visitor wouldn’t see. But I still love it here and plan to stay the rest of my life. And my parents (who live in FL) love coming to visit. They think Atlanta is a really great place.

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Tallcarl

September 17th, 2009
10:40 am

Macon man here but I love Atlanta for all the events (some free or cheap) it offers. I now live in Madrid, Spain for work and love it because the weather is nice and I have never seen a better transit system. Like Atlanta it offers festivals or events in some part of the City every weekend and I try to enjoy them. I say this to express the need for some people to turn off the TV and get out of the house and to also get involved in some constructive activity in your City; be it one of the six art centers of the World (Madrid), Atlanta, or Macon. I would like to see the transit system expanded out to Turner Field and the people more united in Civic causes. You can make up your mind as soon as you get out of bed to be unhappy and bitter OR to have a good, happy day. I am one who believes the glass is half full and I am thankful for it daily. Just a though.

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Left wing management

September 17th, 2009
10:44 am

Enjoying the predictable onslaught of nay-saying here, which illustrates what makes Atlanta such a fascinating case among cities and underscores its appeal as much as any list of attractions or laundry lists of virtues ever can. One of the most confounding things about of Atlanta, aside from the basic fact that it’s impossible to define the place (just where does it stop and start? is it really a place of just 400 thousand or is the famous ‘Atlanta population now’ sign the more accurate measure?), is how it utterly lacks anything that the city snobs hold so dear as being vital to a city’s personality – history, cutting-edge sophistication, grandeur, grittiness, density, breathtaking natural features. Like a Jody Foster among cities, it lacks the classical beauty that make people swoon for San Francisco or the grandeur that make Americans utterly slavish lovers of their great and (justifiably) prized New York City, but nonetheless unapologetically takes its place on the big stage.

Here’s an idea: just call Atlanta the anti-Austin (Austin being the city that no one has ever said anything bad about and anyone who visits it apparently is instantly transmogrified into a natural born booster for life): the city where everything is engineered (’imagineered’) and manufactured, yet somehow pulls it all off.

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Chris

September 17th, 2009
10:46 am

*specificlly

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Proofreader

September 17th, 2009
10:49 am

Keep trying, Chris

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Tony

September 17th, 2009
10:50 am

Be fair on this article now — this grouping of 50 spots is the SECOND group of 50 that the magazine has published. And, if you go to the magazine’s website, you’ll find the cities that preceded Atlanta in the first 50 include New York, San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago, and Dallas, among others…so don’t get too excited here.

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kw

September 17th, 2009
10:53 am

Hey Chris: I graduated from Tech. I go to all the football games. My wife works at Tech, as do a couple of friends. I don’t feel threatened. When is the last time you have been to Tech (day or night) or anywhere in the city? Stop trolling around.

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mike

September 17th, 2009
11:00 am

bunch of haters.. if you dont like it move out! Born and raised here, Gwinnett and now Atlanta, best place in the world.. go move to mayberry if you are looking for utopia

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CL

September 17th, 2009
11:06 am

While Im not crazy about everything in the ATL,I’m happy to be here.

I agree with those that say if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem and should move.

There is nothing wrong with the ATL that a few less unproductive, will complain anywhere they go folks wouldnt fix. The only reason most of these types are here is because they cant afford to be anywhere else.

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Chris

September 17th, 2009
11:07 am

KW, apparently you do not watch the news. How many attacks have happened around your dork school this year? Obviously, during a football game, there will not be any problems. Even though you guys only fill half the stadium for each game. Sure is sad.

Mike, best place in the world? Wow.

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GT Brill

September 17th, 2009
11:09 am

I have to say, there are some people with miserable lives trolling these blogs. Sure the city has problems, some major ones. But the city is headed in the right direction and has a lot of upsides.
Name me a city that doesn’t have a jail or police force because they don’t have any crime for cryin’ out loud. Some people can’t enjoy anything, it doens’t make you cooler than NatGeo or “more in the know” to crap on their article or the city.

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Blackbird

September 17th, 2009
11:12 am

I moved from ATL 12 years ago, to sunny southern California. Great weather, beautiful country, but arrogant mean people. For that, I miss the good ol’ south, with your gorgeous spring flowers, hot humid summers and occasional crisis that a 2″ snowfall can bring.

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Left wing management

September 17th, 2009
11:24 am

By the way, Tony’s right. The National Geographic feature is really just a case of magazine list-itis, the fetish that magazines make of lists in an effort to sell magazines, list mongering if you ask me. Nowhere does it say anything about “best”. This tendency to conflate significance with best is a knee-jerk Atlanta trait, practiced ad nauseam by both its defenders and detractors.

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Shelly

September 17th, 2009
11:29 am

I don’t get it. I’m trying to figure out a way to leave Atlanta and move north.

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kw

September 17th, 2009
11:29 am

Chris: You just showed your redneck biases. “Dork school” “half-filled stadium” yeah, you pretty much just invalidated every argument you were making.

I watch the news. Yeah, the muggings concern me. You think there is no crime around other college campus, including your (I’m guessing) UGA? The key is to realize you are in a big city and be aware of your surroundings. Good advice for any big city.

I really need to stop feeding the trolls.

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Inman Park

September 17th, 2009
11:31 am

Chris and others. You don’t get out much do you? I have lived in the City of Atlanta since 1969 when I arrived to go to GT and in Inman Park since 1975. What a great place to live! My profession would allow me to go most anywhere, and I travel a lot, but I have never found anyplace that I would rather live – total package compared to total package. Could Atlanta be improved? Certainly. Does city, county and state govenments leave soemthing to be desired? Sure. Is there a lack of leadership in the city and the region? Absolutely. But after 40 years, I have not found a place that I would rather live.

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joe

September 17th, 2009
11:40 am

i moved to atl from london nearly 2 years ago and while i miss certain things (pubs, pubs, pubs), i’ve never regretted it for a second. london is stressful & lonely. atlanta is warm & inviting. and full of leafy, interesting neighbourhoods like virginia-highlands, ansley park, decatur, east atlanta… if you don’t like where you live then MOVE.

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Call it like it is.

September 17th, 2009
11:41 am

Okay, fine some of you love this city, Yea! But to put Atlanta in the top 50 in the world for places in a lifetime??? Can any of you Atlanta homers tell me you can’t think of at least a 100 or more different places that would leave Atlanta in the dust. Come on get real. The article is a joke.

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Rod

September 17th, 2009
11:43 am

I’m not exactly a world traveller, but the few major cities that I have been to, New York, Miami, Washington DC, Montreal, Toronto and even Hartford CT, have something that Atlanta does not, a decent and attractive downtown, a reason to go downtown. Most of these cities’ downtown are the reason people go there to visit. When you go downtown Atlanta, there is a sense of fear and neglect almost all around. The metro area should also improve their transportation system. Their rail and bus system with MARTA is extemely limited as in comparison to other major cities. It appears there is still some growth into Atlanta, but there does not appear to be a good solid plan for transportation access or a handle on the crime blight. Beautiful trees and rolling hills are not everything.

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ATLpeace

September 17th, 2009
11:43 am

Greetings from Atlanta: City of Peace, Inc.
Our nonprofit believes that Atlanta’s destiny is to become a global capital of peace (I agree that we are far from this when you look at the FBI’s Uniform Crime Statistics, however WE focus on our possibilities and NOT our circumstances). Atlanta has a GREAT, yet undeveloped asset and we call it: “The Gandhi-King Global Peace Connection.” Would you like to help us develop it? If so, then contact us through Myspace or LinkedIn:
http://www.myspace.com/ATLpeace
http://www.linkedin.com/in/atlpeace
To seizing: “The Peace Millennium”
John R. Naugle

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Left wing management

September 17th, 2009
11:46 am

To Shelly: “I don’t get it. I’m trying to figure out a way to leave Atlanta and move north.”

Better get a move on, the north’s moving south (or is it the south moving north?) so it might overtake you if you aren’t careful. :)

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Pat

September 17th, 2009
11:53 am

Chris….you are an ignorant doofus. I have lived in Cal, N Car and FL but have lived the longest in various parts of ATL. The happiest view I had of CA was in the rear view mirror when leaving and got happier and happier each mile closer to ATL. I now live in SW ATL and have never once been bothered by a thug Chris, not in over 20 years.

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Sticky icky

September 17th, 2009
11:58 am

I just wanted to see if anybody knows how to sign up for the soapbox race or is it too late for that… Let me know

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Jim K.

September 17th, 2009
12:03 pm

your comments here

I moved to Atlanta 10 years ago after travelling here on business for 20 years. I love this place!

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Corey

September 17th, 2009
12:21 pm

The local media hates Atlanta. Don’t believe me; see for yourself.

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Greg

September 17th, 2009
12:28 pm

This place has become the biggest joke. No real identity of the people….too many people from other places invading this once proud and beautiful state and area…..Traffic terrible and the people too….
Pure joke…

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me

September 17th, 2009
12:32 pm

If you can’t appreciate what Atlanta has to offer, get out, so there’s more room for the rest of us who do. I could have never bought a brand new home in the North where I’m from, period. I live in East Atlanta and love it. I wouldn’t live in Buckhead if it was free (bleached and tanned posers). There’s plenty to do here if you get off your couch. If you’re looking for a crime-free, thug-free, corruption-free, racism-free environment, you’ll need to move to Mars because on earth it doesn’t exist so snap out of your fairy-tale mind-set and get real. All cities have problems, why shouldn’t Atlanta, it’s a city isn’t it?? For those who don’t know, Utopia was created in a BOOK.

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TBizzle

September 17th, 2009
12:44 pm

On the surface Atlanta is nice but when you dig down it’s rather bland. Sure, Buckhead has some nice buildings and restaurants but its depressingly fragmented. One minute you’re looking a beautfiul new (but empty) building and the next minute you’re looking at a run down strip mall.

Don’t get me started on the quality of the roads here. You would think Atlanta gets hit with heavy snow and ice in the winter with the condition these roads are in.

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GA Peach

September 17th, 2009
12:53 pm

I have just moved back to ATL since being gone for 10 years. Traveled all over the country, lived in NC, Sweden, and most recently (and regrettably) S. Fla. The S. Fla bit I will be recovering from for some time. The day I moved back I was able to sleep, eat, laugh, sigh, and be happy for the first time in three years. Atlanta has grown in such great ways – the east side villages, the in town living. We have amazing food every where we go. And cheap! Taquiera del Sol, Figo, Fellini’s, Rathbun’s, etc, etc. Everyone we have run into has been really nice and people actually have manners here! I am so glad to be home. And proud that Atlanta made that list! I agree that it should be on that list. :D

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DB

September 17th, 2009
12:53 pm

As soon as Atlanta gets a new mayor and police chief serious about tackling crime, she will be restored to her former glory. I remember reading in the AJC several years back that Atlanta is so beautiful in the spring, it is like a beautiful lady who is wearing all of her jewelry at once. I agree.

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Left wing management

September 17th, 2009
12:59 pm

GA Peach: “people actually have manners here”

Now now, let’s not get simplistic. People have good manners in New York and Chicago too. :)

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Tori

September 17th, 2009
1:03 pm

Atlanta has such a bad rap…it is one of the largest cities in the country and never gets a lick of press. everyone who has visited me here has had a fabulous time…from touristy Coca-Cola and Aquarium to the pubs of the Highlands, to swanky Buckhead, and vibrant Midtown. We eat good, enjoy the parks and museums, watch shows, shop, drive through beautiful intown neighborhoods with historic homes, etc.

I have lived all over, including London and I agree with Joe…London is lonely and its a hard, hard life. Atlanta is the only big city I have been in where its easy to live here. I am from youngstown, ohio area orginally…crime and corruption are everywhere. If we concerned about it, we need to work to fix it and I think Atlanta has done a good job and continues to improve itself.

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Left wing management

September 17th, 2009
1:11 pm

Tori: Atlanta has such a bad rap…it is one of the largest cities in the country and never gets a lick of press.

I don’t know, I think Atlanta gets a pretty fair amount of attention. This NG magazine piece is a case in point. What I think Atlanta does NOT get is much respect from the city snobs. And probably one reason it does not is that life here is not as hard as it is in other places. As I once overheard somebody who’d just moved to LA say: “the harder it is to live in a place, the more exciting it is” (he was speaking of LA and NY). So there’s a romanticism of urban grittiness. For those with little patience, Atlanta is too big to have any mid-size charm (a la Denver, Austin) but too small for true big city sophistication. Meanwhile, the actual city that falls through the cracks in this way gets overlooked and dissed, and that’s a shame.

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Bryan

September 17th, 2009
1:13 pm

I’m reading and there are a lot of A town haters out there. I live in NC and I can’t wait until I can have a chance to move to Atlanta. The people are nice and it has everything you want. A big city feel in downtown, midtown, and Buckhead and still some southern charm in some of the surrounding area’s. And if you want a suburbian feel just go outside of I-285 and commute into the big city. How many cities can say that? How many cities have a heavy rail system especially in the south. Not light rail folks because there is a difference. Most cities don’t have heavy rail because it can’t be supported. Light rail are smaller, shorter trains that are more like a trolley. Heavy rail is used in major cities because it has it’s own exclusive right of way. Unfortunately it is not extended where it needs to be 1) because there is no state support for MARTA and 2)there are people that don’t want a rail stop in their area because it attracts crime…one of the dumbest things I’ve heard. Every rail stop I’ve seen on MARTA was clean and most had nice high end development around it, including on the South line! Why are so many stars moving to ATL… black and white? How many cities have natural beauty like Stone Mountain and man made like the skyline of the city? Why were the Olympics set here? People… the OLYMPICS!! What is keeping on the haters here? Someone said they probably can’t afford to leave. Probably true. Every city has crime and traffic. That is just part of a big city. I love the A town and can’t wait to get down there. It has everything I need.

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Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

September 17th, 2009
1:15 pm

Seems like there are intelligent geographers and lucky people.

The single “dog” I have in the “fight” is wanting only the best for myself and my family. Born in D.C., I’m from America, travelled all the world, driven in almost all of our major cities, and lived in some: for twelve-month-a-year living, raising a family and being around the best America has to offer, amidst the closest bloodstock and Spirit to those who created America, there is no place equal to Atlanta, Georgia.

Atlanta’s drivers and roads are the best. This is a “magic” town: the New Jerusalem.

A thousand feet above sea-level, without the humidity of D.C. or NY: of the top fifteen U.S. metro areas in population Atlanta is second in altitude only to “The Mile-High City,” Denver, whose region’s backwardness and heat inversion air pollution is legendary – and days from a beach.

The Mafia and the Roman Catholic Church, or their Big Oil fronts, control Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, SanFran, Miami, New Orleans, and Texas. Seattle gets rain all year and is miserable waiting for the next Big Tsunami.

D.C. is Babylon on the Potomac…all aligned with the “New York/L.A. Sodom and Gomorrah axis.”

Anyone doesn’t love Atlanta, Georgia, and particularly North Georgia, needs to look in the mirror. Shape up, or ship out.

There’s good reason this is Dr. King’s hometown. Come to Atlanta to find G-d. If one can’t manage that try a little harder.

It’s all up from here without the fascists in the White House, a homegrown girl will do well as mayor, and American Civilization will be pivoting on our urban culture.

Atlanta is true America’s only hope and, thank G-d, Obama is Atlanta’s president.

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Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

September 17th, 2009
1:19 pm

P.S. East Atlanta is “electric.” Atlanta’s the “happenest” spot in the world: the Center of the Universe. If it “ain’t” right for you, get to where you can be happy.

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GA Peach

September 17th, 2009
1:23 pm

Left Wing Management – People in NY do not have ANY manners, that’s why S. Fla sucks so bad. Well, one of the hundreds of reasons…

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junebaby

September 17th, 2009
1:38 pm

people(and i’m talking men) talk about crime and fear in downtown atl! maybe that’s what your problems are, a lot of you so-called men have no backbone, and fear your own shadows. for a grown man to not go outside or participate in life, less this or that happens to him is mind-boggling. if you guys have a woman, how do u keep them?? actually, the only thing wrong about atlanta is too many sensitive(??)men, not willing to stand up for themselves. if u did that, u wouldn’t fear anyone or anything. sure be careful, but don’t cower!!!

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Jay

September 17th, 2009
1:42 pm

Blah blah blah. I hate Atlanta. Get out then? I have lived in Charlotte, Dallas, San Jose, San Diego twice, and I love it here. So much to do. Festivals all over the place, like Other Sound in Lil 5 this weekend and the EAV Strut. Beer festivals, parades, etc. Great lil neighborhoods like EAV, Castleberry Hill, Lil 5, VA-HI, etc. And lots of stuff for tourists as well.

Also, you are a short drive from a lot of stuff. Beaches, gorgeous mountains, raging rivers, wineries. Great restaurants. Great airport, decent mass transit that takes you to another of my favorite areas ITP – Decatur. Love this place.

Yes, we have a crime problem, but what major city doesn’t? I have friends getting broken into in San Diego. Its everywhere. We do lack good leadership, but let’s hope that is coming soon.

For those that don’t like it, this is a free country, you can say what you want. And you can leave whenever you want to head to your utopia. I have traveled all over the Northeast, and I do like a lot of cities up there, but only Chicago would I live in, and it definitely has its share of issues.

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alana

September 17th, 2009
1:56 pm

I love the person who said they’d never even been to Atlanta, and called the article a joke. For those of you who have only seen Downtown and Centennial Olympic Park, you have been sadly deprived. ATLANTA IS one of the most diverse, charming and eccentric cities. If you haven’t explored anywhere outside the Perimeter, or even the outlying neighborhoods within, you haven’t really visited Atlanta. As some who has lived in Miami, Alaska, and Atlanta, I LOVE THIS CITY!!!!!

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Arrivederci, ATL!

September 17th, 2009
2:04 pm

Enter your comments here
I’m not going to say whether or not Atlanta should have been chosen as one of NG’s “50 Places of a Lifetime”, but as a former resident and citizen of Atlanta for more than 45 years, I will say that there was a time in Atlanta’s past that it was as special of a place to live and work as described in the article. Today? I don’t think so.

Today, it is the most racist and vitriolic city I’ve ever known and I’m not speaking of the attitudes of whites towards blacks, but rather just the opposite. It’s crime rate is through the roof — it has become one of the very top drug centers of the U.S. It’s government is more than corrupt, it is reprehensible. The veneer and facade of a gleaming skyline and self-pompous promotion can’t hide the ugly warts and such that have overtaken and sought to kill the life of the city.

I admit to missing Atlanta’s beautiful changing of the seasons there, from it’s crown and glory of Spring to the wistful and crisp times of Fall. There are certain other things I miss, too. But, even these special individual momentos and treats of a place I once loved are not enough to ever lure me back there. Like authors Anne Rivers Siddons and Pat Conroy (both native area Atlantans and left for similar reasons) there is a time to go…and go they did and I did, too. But, we’re all sad we had to.

I left Atlanta in 2008 for San Diego, California. I used to LOVE Atlanta with a passion. It’s physical beauty nothwithstanding, it was a delight to tell others that I was from Atlanta. When we moved here in the mid-1960’s, it was much smaller and, therefore, had a lower crime rate, fewer traffic problems, etc. But, as Atlanta grew, so did it’s problems. One of them

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LH

September 17th, 2009
2:13 pm

Is it the Robert L. Staton Rose Garden located at Fernbank on Ponce?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 17th, 2009
3:29 pm

Thank you! A new post goes up every day. A post that combines Friday, Saturday and Sunday items also goes up on Thursdays. Here’s a link to this week’s: http://blogs.ajc.com/inside-access/2009/09/17/weekend-to-do-list-september-18-20/

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BPJ

September 17th, 2009
3:37 pm

First, would the Atlanta-bashing trolls please follow through with their rhetoric and MOVE? (And once you have moved, there’s probably not much reason to keep reading a column on “fun stuff to do in Atlanta and beyond”, unless I guess if you live in beyond.) Once y’all move, traffic should ease up somewhat, although some of the Atlanta-bashers don’t seem to get out much.

Here’s what I posted last week, when some of the same people were outraged that Atlanta had been mentioned as one of the ten most fun US cities (we placed 6th):

“Fun in Atlanta includes Horizon Theatre, Actors’ Express, Theatrical Outfit, the (Tony-winning) Alliance, 7 Stages, TWO Shakespeare companies (Atlanta Shakes Downtown and Ga. Shakes in Buckhead), PushPush, Synchronicity, True Colors, Theatre in the Square, and Dad’s Garage! Unlike the other cities on the list, we even have a French-language theatre, Theatre du Reve.
Check out the High (not just the high-profile exhibits), the Carlos, the Atlanta Contemporary Art Center, Spelman Museum, MOCAGA, Oglethorpe Museum, MODA……….and galleries such as Marcia Wood, Solomon Projects, Sandler Hudson, Saltworks, Kiang, Jackson (for photo), Lumiere (also photo), and Barbara Archer.
Check out the superb symphony, and the best-on-the-planet ASO Chorus.
Listen to jazz at Churchill Grounds and blues at Blind Willie’s. Eat at any of the 100 best restaurants around town. Stroll through Piedmont Park in the spring, or hike the Chattahoochie Nat’l Rec. area in fall. Visit the world’s largest aquarium, and one of the nation’s best zoos.
And if you’re frightened by fellow citizens because they’re black, please move to Alabama.”

I would like to know whether any of the trolls have been to 5 or more of the places on that list.

To clarify a few points: the city population isn’t 400,000; since 1990 it has increased to over 500,000, the highest ever.

And contrary to some comments here, the city and the metro area, through the ARC, have excellent transportation plans. Such plans have existed for over a decade. The problem is: (a) the state underfunds metro Atlanta, raking off our tax dollars to fund projects in the rest of the state, and (b) the state will not even let us VOTE to tax OURSELVES to fund transit.

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Lily Hunt

September 17th, 2009
5:34 pm

Enter your comments here I love that Kudzu AND the Big Chicken made it into a 10-question quiz! To me, one of the best things about Atlanta is watching us all assemble at Piedmont, not really to watch the old movies, but just because we like being together. Piedmont Park, the Starlight, any neighborhood fair any time of year…just bring out the food and we’ll be there, fixin’ to shoot the breeze!

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SweetPeach

September 17th, 2009
5:55 pm

I’m not a hater, just an observer. Many of the most vocal supporters of Atlanta on this thread are from somewhere north (yes, that includes South Florida). It’s a delight to have you, but to keep Atlanta the place we love, please pass along the word to any less courteous transplants you may know: we walk and drive on the right; don’t block supermarket aisles with your carts while we chat; seldom find ANYTHING important enough to justify cutting in line or interrupting; and use the horn as a warning instrument, not long-distance profanity. Humoring our little quirks will keep your stay and our city much more pleasant. Just saying…

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FlowerGirl

September 17th, 2009
6:30 pm

What a beautiful story

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 17th, 2009
11:13 pm

Ha! Lily, the one I ALMOST answered incorrectly had to do with The Varsity potatoes. I really had to think about just how many cars are pulling in and just how much each one orders.

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john

September 18th, 2009
8:24 am

Atlanta ahead of Boston ,San Francisco ?? PLease ! At one time Atlanta was a wonderful city but over the last 30 years it has become a city lacking in everything except hip hop. There is no downtown to walk through and enjoy without fear . Our major attractions are the World of Coke ,The Aquarium ,CNN,Stone Mountain and the Fox . Would I visit this city to visit those attractions ? NO ! I can’t wait to move from this crime infested ,corrupt ,hip hop city with nothing to do .What we call attractions are a joke !

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Peadawg

September 18th, 2009
8:25 am

Go ask those Ga Tech student who keep getting robbed if Atlanta is a place of a lifetime.

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jim

September 18th, 2009
8:28 am

if atlanta is so nice why has everyone moved 35 minutes north of the city

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In with the NEW

September 18th, 2009
8:36 am

I moved here from the north to take the jobs the Georgia educational system can’t fill (as it ranks 46th) and to introduce myself to the beautiful women the southern gentlemen can’t satisfy.

I figure it took Yankees to burn Atlanta down… and ya’ll we’re waiting for the Yankees to build it back up.

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Get Real!

September 18th, 2009
8:37 am

You gotta be kidding! I was born and raised (as a caucasian) in Washington, D.C. Moved to Atlanta 41 years ago, and if it wasn’t for my kids being born here and living here, I’d be back in D.C. in a flat N.Y. second! Washington D.C. has it all over Atlanta.

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Bryant

September 18th, 2009
8:38 am

Dear Chris:
Atlanta is an awesome place to live. The city is new, exciting, and full of entertainment for the whole family. The homes are beutiful and the neighborhoods are diverse. Sure there is crime like any other major city, but that doesnt negate the fact that all people are welcomed and enjoy the experience. I lived in several other major cities and they are like concrete jungles. Atlanta has an awesome skyline with a very green backdrop. I wouldn’t live anywhere else.

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chuck allison

September 18th, 2009
8:38 am

Atlanta is a cesspool of corrupt leadership, black racism, traffic, poor architecture, crime, rap music, MLK’s descendants fighting in court,Cynthia McKinney, Wayne Williams, and moral decay. Don’t ask me why I don’t leave. I did, and now I hate to even drive through Atlanta or go through the airport. Imagine how wonderful Georgia would be if we could get rid of Atlanta.

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Donald D

September 18th, 2009
8:40 am

What’s the old saying???? Something about “seeing the glass half full or half empty??” dependent on your own frame of mind.
Look for the beauty and it’s there before you; live in negativity and that’s what you get.

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Lynn

September 18th, 2009
8:40 am

Enter your comments here
Piedmont park is not accessible to most. There is not enough parking, and it is so congested I avoid the area. It’s a great park if you live within walking distance, but it is a turn off, not a draw, to those who live in other parts of the city or suburbs. Locals view Piedmont Park as “theirs,” and do not welcome “outsiders” to “their park.” As a Chicago native, parks are designed to be accessible (lots of parking, public transportation that’s safe and accessible) a huge draw to local, suburbanites, and out of state visitor–and locals are proud of this. There’s a very different attitude in Atlanta.

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NYTransplant

September 18th, 2009
8:41 am

I relocated from NYC because my job came to Atlanta. Overall, the city isnt all that bad. What impressed me the most was the amount of trees around the city. Overall, its relatively clean too. There are alot of things to do around town. I do like the weather better down here too.
The negatives are the city government,( alot of potential going to waste), No Marta train to Turner Field, (a no-brainer to have a stop there, whats up with that??), Downtown not to safe at night. I feel safer in downtown NYC than I do here. This city needs more of a police presence so the folks visiting have a sense of security. Just my take from a northerner….

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Bryant

September 18th, 2009
8:41 am

Oh yeah Jim. If you would check the latest census reports the city of Atlanta population has grown in the last five years. That includes alot of people returning to the city. Besides, I there is no other place in metro atlanta like Piedmont Park.

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JP

September 18th, 2009
8:43 am

I moved here 16 years ago from Ohio. Atlanta and the metro area is so vast and varies so much from area to area. But the one thing I loved that you cannot get anywhere up north is the newness to everything. I love new and hate old. I grew up with old. Knew no different. Besides everyone is moving here. From all over the north to here. Why? Weather and beauty. The mountains, hills, trees and scenery do make it awesome. Visitors come down and tell me how every subdivision has such pristene well maintained landscape. I know people who moved here and moved back thinking the grass was greener and then reversed course. Now everyone regretted it. The drought was just a cycle. Look the weather now. Another cycle. Change is good. Same o same o is boring. Unless you have been other places like I have you have no clue. The cost of living here is very affordable. Traffic? Yeah I had a problem for 7 years. Then I changed jobs to where I drove the opposite of traffic. No my commute is 20-30 mins and loving it. No stress. That’s my take on this anyway.

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Mactown Marvel

September 18th, 2009
8:44 am

First and foremost let me emphasize the fact that no U.S. metro city is perfect! One thing I can say is that while ATL has it’s faults like every other city ATL does provide you with the ability to live an affordable life. Having lived in both LA and now the God forsaken city these infidels call Beantown by far ATL has these cities beat when it comes to cordial ethics, cost of living, and overall cleanliness! As far as the traffic goes, traffic in the ATL has gotten worse because the infidels that move there for the likes of LA and Beantown that don’t have the common sense to move over when someone is trying to merge onto the highway (Ooops my bad, you infidels know this as being the Interstate). Common sense bottom line is the difference between persons that were born in ATL and have seen ATL become the present day city that it still is now know what the city is and is still beautiful in regards to its mystique and captivating charm that made NGC place it on its list. Now if all of these infidels that wrote their opinions about the city and are not originally from ATL take a deep breath, click your heels twice and take your infidel behinds back to where you came from!

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JP

September 18th, 2009
8:45 am

And I love the diversity here….Black White Indian Asian Mexican…yes Mexican. I am White. I love all these different foods they all bring here. I have tried them all. Indian has become one of my favorites. Life without all these different cultures would get boring.

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Matt C.

September 18th, 2009
8:46 am

I moved here a decade ago for school, never expecting I’d stay but here I am. I love this city and I’ll gladly take the bad parts with it. For all of you who were looking for Mayberry, I’m sorry you didn’t find it here. Good luck with that.

To answer the question posted. It’s got to be all the parks and festivals that are spread throughout the year. Atlanta is such a wonderfully social city. And it’s a beautiful city.

Everyone that thinks this city is scary…turn off the news and go outside and meet your neighbors.

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Richard

September 18th, 2009
8:48 am

Who in the world did the city of Atlanta pay off to get in National Geographic Traveler?

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In with the NEW

September 18th, 2009
8:49 am

Hey Mactown Marvel, do you have a moment to get out of your trailer and tell me why nothing changed in Atlanta until the “infidels” showed up and started cleaning your town up?

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cjamesatl

September 18th, 2009
8:50 am

Is this a joke? Piedmont Park is a dump compared to REAL parks. It’s just a bunch of grass with a ‘lake’ and a splattering of trees. NatGeo must have been desperate to complete their list.

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Joan

September 18th, 2009
8:54 am

Atlanta is a joke of a city. St. Louis has a city park that is 12 MILES around and it is beautiful. It makes Piedmont look like somebody’s backyard. The art museum here suffers from a lack of art, and the zoo is about 50 years behind the times. The Botanical Garden isn’t much bigger than gardens in many private homes–again, St. Louis has a Garden about 20 times larger. Maybe Atlanta suffers from lack of civic interest in all these things. What Atlanta does have is traffic and nasty, rude people.

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moot

September 18th, 2009
8:58 am

One of the main reasons that Atlanta is unappealing to so many people is that it tries so hard to be something, usually the _____ of the south. For example, there was an article yesterday asking if Atlanta was the LA of the south (really?). When I moved here, I heard people call it the NY of the south (not even close). Little Five Points is made up to be a slice of San Francisco and Buckhead is supposed to be like Beverly Hills. I don’t know what Atlantic Station is supposed to be – perhaps an experiment in kitsch.

It is really annoying because if this place wasn’t too obsessed with trying to be like somewhere else its optimistic and friendly people could create a place more interesting and unique.

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Heels 4 Real

September 18th, 2009
8:58 am

I just moved to Atlanta from Charlotte last weekend and am definitely liking it so far. I lived in Virginia-Highlands and have yet to experience any of the bad things people mention.

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Karen

September 18th, 2009
8:58 am

KW,

What kind of corruption was former NYC Mayor David Dinksin involved in?

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Love your city

September 18th, 2009
8:58 am

My goodness, what negativitities amongst our very own population…I, for one, happen to agree with the list. Atlanta is one beautiful city-full of diversity, culture, amazing entertainment, shopping, world class culinary cuisine, one of a kind parks, historical Vistorian homes on expansive tree-lined streets, mini ‘neighborhoods’ where there is literally something for everybody, countless Fortune 500 companies headquartered here,just hours from the mountains or the ocean, live music galore, art exhibits, and tons of Civil War history!?? I didn’t even mention Hartsfield-where we can literally jump on a non-stop flight to Seoul, Korea. Ladies and gentlemen, coming from a world travelled native Atlantan (born and raised right here and still here), I suggest some of you start seeing the beauty and intrigue of this fascinating city…

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Left wing management

September 18th, 2009
8:59 am

To chuck allison: why do you even read the paper online then if you’re so happy to be done with Atlanta? Let me guess, you probably wish Atlanta were South Carolina or Alabama with no real major cities and you probably were rooting for Joe Wilson when he made his outburst in Congress. Am I right?

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Chris

September 18th, 2009
8:59 am

Atlanta is AWFUL! I thought a city with this much crime, traffic, corruption was the norm for a large city. I was so upset when my company transferred me to the Chicago branch but I couldn’t be happier here in Chicago. Even the “windy city” has less corruption than Atlanta. And for the previous poster who mentioned mayor Daley as corrupt, you obviously don’t know anything about him. And for those of you who are going to tell me to “read my own town’s newspaper” and “stop worrying about Atlanta”. I just want you to know that the only reason I read the AJC is to keep up with my alma mater in sports.

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Vince

September 18th, 2009
9:01 am

There are negative people in this world who see only problems.
There are positive people in this world who see the beauty.
Thank goodness an unbiased, well-respected magazine can see the truth.

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Brent

September 18th, 2009
9:03 am

Atlanta is what you make it. There are hundreds of beautiful places to go and things to do. I’m highly suspect of anyone who derides it to the contrary. Some folks must not get out much. Or maybe you live in the suburbs. It may not be a top 50/100 “city of a lifetime” but it’s wonderful all the same. And the people here are easily the friendliest I’ve encountered of any place I’ve visited in the world.

And some of the comments here are really off the deep end! Atlanta as “racist” and “mean” and not having an “attractive downtown” (NYC, DC, Orlando, Nashville – haha, are you people serious?!). Plenty of people with an apparent axe to grind. Atlanta isn’t perfect, but every city has crime, traffic, etc.

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Left wing management

September 18th, 2009
9:04 am

moot: “It is really annoying because if this place wasn’t too obsessed with trying to be like somewhere else its optimistic and friendly people could create a place more interesting and unique.”

Read my post above from yesterday where I address this tendency of Atlanta to ‘pose’ among the elite cities, which infuriates the city purists and people like you but nonetheless Atlanta mostly pulls it off.

By the way, I think you’re dead wrong about Atlanta not being the LA of the South. I actually have always found that to be a pretty good description of what Atlanta is with the immense similarities between the two places.

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JP

September 18th, 2009
9:06 am

You go Vince. Negative people suck. They are less happy and less productive. And they live a shorter life. You have to look at Atlanta and the metro area as a whole. Examining one aspect gives you no insight. Have you checked out all the aspects of the areas? All cities have certain parts that are not good. So don’t go to them.

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Left wing management

September 18th, 2009
9:07 am

To Chris: “I just want you to know that the only reason I read the AJC is to keep up with my alma mater in sports.”

I’m ROFL now. That may be the case, but you obviously can’t resist stopping over to a forum about Atlanta being featured in National Geographic to weigh in, can you? :)

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Tyree

September 18th, 2009
9:12 am

Piedmont Park is stunning. Except when it gets turned into a fairground several times a year with the festivals. Portal potties, crowds, litter, trampled ground are the order of the day. Va-Hi is quaint.Inman Park is nice. Grant Park would be wondetful except for the continued crime. Atlanta is a mixed bag of good and bad.

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LOLO

September 18th, 2009
9:12 am

I agree with Get Real, DC is a much better city than Atlanta ever will be. Yeah there is crime, but at least it rarely bleeds over into the areas people want to be. I never felt threatened walking Cap. Hill, downtown, Georgetown, Adams Morgan or any other similar neighborhood at night. I loved living there and am trying to move back right now. Oh and the Metro system actually gets you to most places in the city you need to go. I drove my car about twice a month when I lived there.

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Southern Charm

September 18th, 2009
9:14 am

Enter your comments here

Why do we get upset because the article expresses the good in Atlanta and does not tell us what we already know about traffic, etc.?
One of the oldest “Southern Hospitality” traditions is:
Just smile, and say Thank You

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 18th, 2009
9:14 am

Thanks to those of you staying on topic and keeping the discussion moving forward! Interesting topic, interesting perspectives.

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Jim

September 18th, 2009
9:15 am

I love living in the metro-atl area but I can’t for the life of me understand why piedmont park would make the top 50 places on the earth. Just off the top of my head, I don’t think I’d rate it in the top 50 in GA.

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HAHAHA

September 18th, 2009
9:16 am

I love Atlanta and I’m glad it’s been recognized as a great city to visit. For those of you who hate it, and have left and/or are planning to why are you still reading the AJC? I’m just saying…..morons.

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Judith

September 18th, 2009
9:20 am

Life on MARTA,

I could not imagine this city without YBM. They are so handsome and they are hanging.

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CWILLI

September 18th, 2009
9:20 am

I’ve been many places in my life time, and lived a couple as well Chicago, Miami,and Roanoke,VA and originating from Oklahoma City, I came here in the early 80’s fell in love with it and it has been an affair every since. The reason for the haters they look for the bad and not the good. Don’t like just get to steppin but don’t try and distort some one else who may be thinking of visiting this great city, way to go NG.

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Vote For Pedro

September 18th, 2009
9:21 am

It’s a place of a lifetime because the life expectancy here is about 22 years!!!

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levelhead

September 18th, 2009
9:24 am

Trash/Litter on the street every 20ft High weeds and grass. Have you all seen most of the on-ramps with all of the over grown weeds and trash not to mentioned someone or organizations asking for a hand out. Come to five points and have lunch then tell me what you think?

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WestSider

September 18th, 2009
9:25 am

Dear kw,

As a resident of West Atlanta, I can tell you with all assurance that you are dead wrong. You might have gone to Tech, but you don’t live near here. I live in one of the newly “gentrified” neighborhoods on the West side (or Midtown West…whatever you want to call it) and crime is definitely out of control. We had to hire private security because of day-time home invasions. Car-break ins and pedestrian robberies are a common occurrence.

So if you don’t know what you are talking about (and it is obvious from your rosy red picture of intown life…a life it would appear that you don’t even live) then please don’t call others out.

That being said I feel that Atlanta DOES deserve to be on this list. Things are taking a positive turn in this city because the people moving in are working hard to make things better. Crime is ever present, but facing up to it and combating it with every tool available will make the good things about this charming city even better. I love the Fall with its festivals (Candler Park, Arts, L5P Halloween, etc…) most of all!

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garcia

September 18th, 2009
9:31 am

Enter your comments here

My work and studies have taken me to far flung places over the past thirty years. I have lived in the most modern and metropolitan cities on earth and I have lived in third world countries. Without exception, every place on earth has is charms and challenges. I take the best from any place and make it my own. And, I feel sorry for people who can’t see beauty except for a narrowly defined ideal. I get the feeling that the negative posts in this thread are simply the work of narrow-minded simpletons. So be it, they deserve their place and have their voice.

As for me, I plan to finish my journey in Atlanta. I like to save the best for last.

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MichaelinAtlanta

September 18th, 2009
9:34 am

I’ve lived here for most of my 56 years, and I have a pretty strong love/hate relationship with the place. I love the region, but sometimes find what people are making of the place–especially when they try to remake it in the image of some beloved somewhere else–is pretty saddening.

People who live in Atlanta may take for granted how extraordinarily green the city is. By contrast, it’s really pretty nice to see newcomers look with amazement at how completely the city is nestled in a forest. More and more, I also find the architecture is getting more interesting, though it strikes me that, regarding architecture, what the city needs most is more grand public spaces like the Woodruff Arts Center–not just grand buildings, but entire spaces that feed the spirit.

Piedmont Park and, to a lesser extent, Grant Park, are beautiful places, truly great places for people and for nature. Thinking about how wonderfully these parks work, I can’t help but think that much of what’s wrong with the city stems from the fact that planners have literally ripped its heart open by staging I-75/85 and I-20 in the middle of the city. Imagine what kind of city this would be if, instead of the downtown connector, we had a vast public park or, if not that, at least a network of forested neighborhoods matching the surrounding area. I think the fact that we live in a city with a damaged heart is part of what makes the city so inclined to identity silliness and flux.

As for crime and racism, I don’t think in either case we have problems anywhere near as bad as you find in other parts of the country. Large cities like Chicago and Miami are horribly polarized along racial lines, and the violence you find there and in other cities is largely worse than what you find here. Granted, the abject poverty in some parts of Atlanta is shocking and saddening, but there are far worse places.

I hope the city will grow more great public places like the Woodruff Center and Piedmont Park–and maybe that is what the Beltline will bring, if it ever gets built. I’m convinced that what makes cities great is the public spaces they offer; while we have a few wonderful public spaces, we have much to do to cultivate what we could here to make a really great city.

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donna

September 18th, 2009
9:47 am

I have lived in Atlanta since 1989 and Atlanta is a great place to live with lots to do. Read the newspapers, listen to the radio, go to the mountains, lakes, parks, etc. Yes – there are lots to do here. However, since after the Olympics, Atlanta did change a bit. We have had an influx of over 350,000 people move in a matter of a three year span and continuing to move. Traffic is very bad but hopefully, plans are in the workings to change in the future. When it comes to mass transit, we need bus service expansion. We need more officers to patrol neighborhoods. But you know what! I love Atlanta. This is my home and no matter who says negative things about it, I still love it to life. Who don’t like it could leave it. This is a “free” country and you can move elsewhere.

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Will

September 18th, 2009
9:48 am

I was never so glad to get out of Atlanta, lived there 10 years and it was not a plesant experience, traffic, red necks, Republicans, and the government is so corrupt. It’s like a 3rd world country.

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Allie F.

September 18th, 2009
9:49 am

Who ever selected the top 50 places obviously did not spend much time in Atlanta! What a joke – we don’t even have sidewalks here! Traffic is horrendous. The economy sucks. Corruption runs rampid in city government. And the city is devoid of culture!

And, I agree with some of the comments, I have lived in several major metropolitan areas, including NYC. I have NEVER encounted the level racism and hate that is in this city.

A top place? I think not.

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LL

September 18th, 2009
9:53 am

The one best thing about Atlanta are the non-stop flights out of Hartsfield. The worst thing about Atlanta is driving to Hartsfield

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Brian

September 18th, 2009
9:53 am

i want to know how long these Atlanta bashers have lived here.
it must be difficult to live in Atlanta when it is not “perfect” like the city you lived in before.
yes, the traffic has become worse over the years and one solution is for you people to GO BACK TO WHERE EVER YOU CAME FROM.

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What

September 18th, 2009
9:54 am

Are they kidding — “place of a lifetime” if you like crime, traffic, poor air quality, poor public schools, poor local government and leadership — corruption, steel plate covered roads, poor infrastructure, way too many people, thugs, rap, humidity, trees everywhere, poor public transportation, etc….

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Stewart

September 18th, 2009
9:54 am

The obsession with place is an interesting phenomenon. Many people search for a place to live that will make them happy, while ignoring that place often has little to do with happiness. Relatedly, many of these posts tell you much more about the poster than they do the city of Atlanta.

And for the record, I’m a lifelong resident of Atlanta. I love Atlanta, and I think it has a lot going for it. It needs a lot of work and more people like me who will love it.

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Left wing management

September 18th, 2009
9:59 am

When I saw the piece was headlined in this morning’s online edition I figured we’d see a fresh batch of trolls – and I wasn’t disappointed. Good morning Allie F. Good morning Will. Let me ask you, why are you guys so angry about Atlanta? Do you think you might be projecting your hurt and frustration over unfortunate incidents you’ve experienced onto the city perhaps?

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Evan

September 18th, 2009
9:59 am

Look, Atlanta does have crime, traffic and racism. But what major city doesnt. Just start at the beginning of the list. Amsterdam?!? That city is known world wide as a filthy city (in many meanings of the word). Almost every major city on the list has terrible crime and most have an awful political atmosphere. Im not saying that New York or Chicago shouldn’t have been on that list with Atlanta, but let’s remember the criterion for the list. It is a list of wonderfully unique places to visit and soak in sights and culture you can’t find anywhere else in the world. It is not saying that Atlanta is perfect, far from it. Some of the “flaws” contribute to the uniqueness that put Atlanta on the list in the first place. So let’s not bash it because you didn’t enjoy your time here or have had a few bad experiences in traffic or downtown, and let’s remember that despite everything, Atlanta has a great deal to offer.

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DJ

September 18th, 2009
10:03 am

If every notable “guide” or “survey” points out how valuable an asset our tree-cover is, why do the politicians insist on sucking up to developers who want to cut down every tree in sight?

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A Realist

September 18th, 2009
10:04 am

For all of the City of Atlanta haters….MOVE or if you don’t already live in the City of Atlanta…don’t move here!!!!

I just wish there were more green spaces within the city like Piedmont Park. Yes, there is definitely room for improvements overall, but Atlanta is still a great city. I’ve had the opportunity to travel all over the world and there are only a few places that can compare and/or better. The majority of those places are definitely outside of the US as oppose to being in the US.

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Bob

September 18th, 2009
10:05 am

I thought Atlanta could qualify for the list until I saw all of the negative comments on this post. Get a life and move along! Atlanta would certainly improve without your award-winning attitude.

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Alvin

September 18th, 2009
10:07 am

I love Atlanta. I have been here since November 95. If it had a beach it would be perfect. Every city has crime and corrupt politicians. When I go back to the north after 3 days I am ready to return to my Atlanta. Hey maybe it is not for everybody(so leave!!!!!) The most beautiful woman live here and the good weather last longer. Hey traffic sucks, but hey I can live with that. I love the melting pot is has become.Yes there is old school racist here, but that is the few. I have a problem with the confederate flag, but I feel eventually a change is coming.

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Bruce

September 18th, 2009
10:07 am

I have lived in Atlanta for 32 years. Many times, I have thought about leaving for greener pastures but I realized every major city has similar negative issues. Our biggest challenge has consistently been the overriding perception that it is unsafe to be out and around, particularly at night, in the downtown/city center. This MAY be slowly changing, but not nearly fast enough for our own good. While common courtesy in this country seems no longer to be common enough, at least here that doesn’t seem to be as big an issue (except I-85 at rush hour).

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Corey

September 18th, 2009
10:08 am

Skyscrapers piercing an emarld canvas from downtown to Midtown to Buckhead to Sandy Springs and Perimeter/Dunwoody. There is really no other place like it. Yes, we do have too many bad actors, but all major cities do. If you are overly fixated with YBMs(Young Black Males),yes, you will miss out on great things this city has to offer.

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Oh Phu-leez, squidward

September 18th, 2009
10:10 am

Atlanta in the top 50, internationally!? WTF?

You gotta be kidding. Was this written by someone who’s never been on a plane? Atlanta shouldn’t even finish 1st in the state of Jaw-jaw.

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CDW

September 18th, 2009
10:11 am

I’m with KW – “Delta is ready when you are.”

I would bet that the majority of the petty little folks ripping on our fair city haven’t done or seen much beyond their own big box shopping centers and wouldn’t know what to do with a visitor beyond driving by the Big Chicken.

I’ve lived in several big cities and spent considerable time in others (Washington, Chicago, NYC, San Fran, etc). While I enjoyed my time visiting/living elsewhere and took advantage of what those towns had to offer, I can promise that they have more than their share of rude people, racism, poverty, crime, drugs, and all other social ills that plague metro areas.

Get out and SEE your city. Piedmont is a lovely place to visit, and not just for festivals. Been to the Botanical Gardens? Taken a tour of Oakland Cemetery? News flash – the Cyclorama has nothing to do with bicycles…check it out.

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Da Mick

September 18th, 2009
10:14 am

I’ve lived in Atlanta since the mid-70s, and I have to say that for me, except for the trees, most of what was absolutely wonderful and charming about the city is gone, mostly by way of the wrecking ball. The result of “progress” in this town appears to be rows of corporate cookie-cutter establishments that I can barely make out as I drive by, because there’s always someone driving right on your butt, wherever you are. The road traffic and congestion is insufferably stressful, and basically makes me want to just get where I’m going, which is usually out of the city as fast as possible. Have to agree with other posters here about the city government though. I think Shirley has tried, but the conditions she was left by the criminal who preceded her with are more than one person can change overnight or over eight years. The city government is deep in nepotism, and needs someone who is willing to clean house to really bring on positive progress.

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JC

September 18th, 2009
10:16 am

These people who live in ATL and are making cracks on it just need to leave. I’ve been trying to move to ATL now for several months.

Atlanta has a lot to offer. It is a green city, has wonderful weather, great parks, not 1 or 2 but 3 skylines, world class shopping, a subway system, hundreds of concerts a year, Fox Theater, UnderGround, Lenox, Perimiter, Midtown and the list goes on and on! I LOVE ATLANTA and I can not wait to move there! ATL ROCKS!

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atlantalive

September 18th, 2009
10:18 am

I’m sorry to sound smart-assy, but “ghetto of a lifetime” might be a more appropriate title for the City these days. Atlanta has taken a steady decline over the 20+ years I’ve lived here. Sprawl, traffic, smog, and the daily round of teens in SUVs who think sticking an AK47 in someone’s face is a “fun” way to make some money. Calling Atlanta the “Place Of A Lifetime” is like calling Detroit “Mayberry, USA”. Sorry. I just want some of whatever it is they’re smoking at National Geographic.

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Blessed

September 18th, 2009
10:19 am

I moved to Atlanta in 1982, from the North. I thought it was the most beautiful, friendliest city I’ve ever seen or lived in. Trees, green grass, blue skies, friendly people, beautiful skyline downtown, and that sweet southern tea. (nothing like it) but somewhere after the Olympics, the city seem to change. I didn’t mind the change that much, except for the southern hospitality seemed to start fading. Unfortunately, 2.5 years ago, the economy forced me relocate back north. I do miss it. I still read the AJC everyday.

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joe

September 18th, 2009
10:21 am

Atlanta’s best features are its weather, terrain, affordability and skylines (notice I didn’t say hospitality). Those you can find in many other places. Yes, there’s more to do here than in Akron or Boise or any other 3rd-rate city, but Atlanta doesn’t compare to the world-class cities in this list. It is a second-tier city that needs to grow in cultural, political and social ways. Why do I live here? Because for me the mix is better than just about any other place, yet I see it growing too much in the wrong ways as it aspires to be on these “best international” lists. I fear we’ve thrown out the baby with the bath water.

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BPJ

September 18th, 2009
10:22 am

Again, the usual Atlanta-bashers are out, and revealing their lack of knowledge about the city. One complains that Piedmont Park is not accessible, due to lack of parking and transit access. I thought everyone had heard by now about the large new parking deck which opened several months ago, after considerable public controversy. As for transit, it’s easy. Take MARTA to the Midtown station, walk east 3 blocks (passing some excellent restaurants on the way), and there you are.

Then we are told that Atlanta’s botanical garden is not as large as the one in St. Louis. Size isn’t everything, and when it comes to quality, the ABG is considered one of the nation’s leaders, especially for its orchid center (funny, if we had the largest botanical garden, and bragged about it, these same people would be sternly lecturing us on our obsession with “bigness”!). The ABG is also one of only two gardens in the US featuring the Henry Moore exhibit (the NY botanical garden was the other). See it.

We’re told “the art museum suffers from a lack of art”. Well it’s true the High got started late, and lacks the volume or quality of European paintings found in many other US cities. That is a source of disappointment to me. But to peddle that as the entire story of visual art in Atlanta is misleading. The High’s collections are continuing to grow, with smart acquisitions in contemporary art, photography, and folk art. Its exhibition schedule leans a bit too heavily on blockbusters, but there are smaller, more scholarly shows there as well – you just have to pay attention. But the most revealing phrase was “the art museum” -as if the High was the only art museum in Atlanta. I’ve met a number of people who think that. I take them to the Carlos Museum, and they always say “I had no idea there was anything in Atlanta like that!” There are superb shows at the Atlanta Contemporary Art Center, MOCAGA, Spelman, Oglethorpe, MODA, and several galleries. Atlanta is also an important theatre town. There’s an energy here that’s lacking in some older American cities, which may explain why the population of some (e.g., St. Louis) has decreased, while the city of Atlanta’s population has increased by 25% in the past two decades (from 400,000 to over 500,000).

This population increase in the CITY will come as a surprise to anyone who believes that “everyone has moved 35 minutes north of the city”.

I liked the comment by Matt C.: “Everyone that thinks this city is scary…turn off the news and go outside and meet your neighbors.” Community involvement makes a big difference in one’s appreciation of the city. There’s plenty of work to be done here, on transportation, on expanding the park system, on improving arts facilities, etc. – get involved.

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dan

September 18th, 2009
10:23 am

I’ve grown up around Atlanta my whole life. I personally think that Atlanta and the metro area has been making a comeback the last 6-7 years. Howell Mill, Highlands, Atlantic Station, Mid-town are all cool places. Crime is a problem, but there is also some really nice homes within the perimeter. I think three things have hurt Atlanta:

1.) it’s infrastructure is ill equipped to handle the massive growth that has taken place in the last 20 years( hence the problem with traffic etc.)
2.) White Flight in the 1970’s and early 1980’s and the birth of surburbia, which has done nothing but plunge the city and metro suburbs into decay.
3.) the influx of transplants from the north( although to be fair, Atlanta has been known as a “Carpet Bagger” City ever since reconstruction).

I too have visited some great cities. But at the end of the day, Atlanta is home to me and I really can’t imagine living anywhere else.

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Try riding your bike here

September 18th, 2009
10:25 am

and see how long you last.
This is not a top city. Yet. It will take a major shift in thinking on the part of a lot of folks to earn that merit badge.
I’ve lived here since ‘64 and it’s better, but it’s not that great.

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Shirley U Jest

September 18th, 2009
10:27 am

Was an Atlanta resident for six years, now just the occasional tourist. Liked it at first, but then the glow quickly wore off, so I moved on. I can understand why NGT saw it the way they did. Tourists have no concept of the high taxes and fees the residents pay for substandard services, the oppressive traffic, the ever-struggling public school system, latent racism, homophobia, and the ineptness of both the administrative and legislative arms of the city government. Plus considering how much of the city’s strained resources are being expended to make the visitor experience positive, it’s good to know that somebody noticed. It may be the one thing in Atlanta that is working, but tourists don’t vote on election day.

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Tea

September 18th, 2009
10:28 am

I think Piedmont Park would be a lot nicer if it didn’t have a new multi-story parking lot in it’s center. The eastern entrace to the park is more like a fortress than a park. The Conservancy and the Botanical Gardens have comandeered a portion of the park for their own use against the practically universal wishes of all residential stakeholders.

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BB

September 18th, 2009
10:30 am

I agree with the article that Atlanta is a great city to see and visit. Every large city has its share of problems so I would suggest to the people complaining to quit watching the local news. There is a lot of good going on in this city that you will never hear about. Your negative views are controlled by your thoughts so look for the good going on in Atlanta and again, turn off the negative news.

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Brian

September 18th, 2009
10:33 am

I live in Jacksonville Fl and I visit the A frequently and I love it. Its my favorite city. I wish I would have moved there instead of J,ville.

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MiLO

September 18th, 2009
10:34 am

National Geographic Traveler recognizes Atlanta (the city and metro area) as one of the “50 Places of a Lifetime.” That’s funny. I remember my friend joking, “Atlanta is a good place to live, not to visit.” Anyway, the essay that accompanies the NGT recognition is problematic. Aren’t others tired of these essays and comments on Atlanta that continue to preserve the false notion of “a city too busy to hate,” especially given the well documented racial and class disparities? Atlanta is a good place to live but it defies logic and reality to rank it among great places in the world.

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rachael

September 18th, 2009
10:35 am

A single MARTA fare is $2.25 now? Jamie, you’re my only news source. Sigh…

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Duluth, GA

September 18th, 2009
10:36 am

I love Atlanta and will always love this city. Yes, Atlanta does have some problems just like every other place in the world, but it is not as bad as some are claiming it to be. As it has been mentioned, stop being so negative and some of you will begin to see the positives in this city. It is never too late to start being positive.

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Greg

September 18th, 2009
10:42 am

The people that are saying it (ATL) is racist are indeed the real racist!

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Native Southerner

September 18th, 2009
10:58 am

I have traveled to many places around the world and I believe that when you consider everything Atlanta has to offer, it’s not such a bad place to live. It does have it’s problems…politics, crime, transportation, differing cultural opinions…but most major cities struggle with these. I enjoy the vibrancy of large cities but, I don’t believe any other cities in the US are worth the costs, hassles or climate extremes. Cities like London, Paris and Amsterdam truly have so much more to offer than American cities but, like others have mentioned in this blog, they can be very difficult places to actually live. The cost of living in Atlanta is so reasonable that I can afford a great, quality lifestyle. At one point in my life I lived in a penthouse in central London but, I still felt as if I had a poor standard of living. I loved the diversity and culture the city had to offer but, again, it was such a hard, fast-paced life.

What Atlanta needs is more focus on the city center. This has already begun in Midtown and to some extent in the downtown area. I just hope it doesn’t take another 20 years to reach its potential. The city has changed so much during the time I have spent here and even if I move (most likely to Paris), I will always follow its progress. If and when that happens, I’m sure I will look back at my time here and remember how comfortable life was.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 18th, 2009
2:19 pm

To be clear, a single MARTA fare is $1.75, but I don’t want to surprise people who are Breeze card-less with the 50 cent fee. When the fare increase begins on Oct. 1, they’ll jump to $2 per fare, or $2.50 with the card fee.

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6Digitballin

September 18th, 2009
2:31 pm

Any time you meet a payment. – Good Times.
Any time you need a friend. – Good Times.
Any time you’re out from under.
Not getting hassled, not getting hustled.
Keepin’ your head above water,
Making a wave when you can.
Just lookin’ out of the window.
Watchin’ the asphalt grow.
Thinkin’ how it all looks hand-me-down.
Good Times, yeah, yeah Good Times

Keepin’ your head above water
Makin’ a wave when you can
Temporary lay offs. – Good Times.
Easy credit rip offs. – Good Times.
Scratchin’ and surviving. – Good Times.
Hangin in a chow line – Good Times.
Ain’t we lucky we got ‘em – Good Times.

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Captain Midnight

September 18th, 2009
2:34 pm

Hapeville Happy Days festival is tomorrow ya’ll!

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akure imes

September 18th, 2009
4:59 pm

I am looking for events geared toward teenagers and youth above 13 for my radio program on WRFG. It seems that we often have events for kids and adults, but the 15-20 age group is left out. Have events been listed for teens in the past? Thank-you!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm

Great suggestion, Captain Midnight! For those looking for more info, here’s a link: http://www.hapeville.org/index.aspx?NID=217

Meanwhile, akure imes: I do list teen and young adult events sometimes, but you’re right, there’s not as much out there explicitly for that group. A few ideas — a lot of local libraries have teen activities, generally met for those still in high school. Neighborhood festivals are great because they’re not age specific it all. Local theater — think Synchronicity, Horizon, 7 Stages, PushPush, the Center for Puppetry Arts or any number of other community groups — often puts on performances interesting and relevant to those age groups, and with a student discount. (Some of those groups have teen-specific workshops and performances, too.) Art walks are a great — free, dynamic and in every area from Marietta to Castleberry Hill. Does that help at all?

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rachael

September 18th, 2009
10:33 pm

Ohhhhkay. I knew it was happening soon.

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Marc

September 19th, 2009
1:16 am

This article is just hilarious, not as funny as the posts responses lol The best of all is when Sunshine said that “we are too busy here to hate” ROFL (since this is the capital of the prejudice of the United States) How clueless someone can be to rate a city that they don’t live at… Atlanta is even pretty but a huge small town, in mentality and things to offer… crime, drug scene and not related to the night life that the government killed…. The positive feedbacks are clearly from people that doesn’t know other places, or are too afraid or old to do it.

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Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

September 19th, 2009
2:30 am

Marc – Clearly you’ve chosen to throw-in with us. Your English is ESL, is it not? Why second-guess yourself? With Bush’s Anti-Christ faction being beaten back, whose foreign branch probably runs whatever country you left, America shall once more be a Light to the nations, and Atlanta, “America’s Town,” is far and above the best.

I’ve been to essentially all “other places” in the U.S., and many around the world, so I know for a fact: It’s all downhill from here.

After Bush committed 9/11 and restarted the Afghan heroin trade Atlanta was turned into “the Wal-Mart for heroin for the Southeast U.S.,” with complicity of local corruption. My hope is that Mayor Borders won’t be a party to it and with the righteous president in the White House we now have, Atlanta will be the prime beneficiary of restored America following Dr. King’s Dream.

That you found your way here might just be Grace and you should relax and accept your good fortune, but “the Devil” has plans for us all and you might just need to meet your destiny elsewhere. Some place you think is “better?” Perhaps, like a scout, you could go there and report back?

All G-d’s chillun got wings and this is a Freedom Town for those who can be cool.

Our “Well” is pure and good. You try to put something else in Atlanta’s “Well” and you’ll find “the curse causeless shall not come” unto you.

Best of luck.

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Kevin

September 19th, 2009
2:49 am

I don’t understand why everyone trys to act like Atlanta is the worst place ever. like many people have already stated it’s going to have it’s problems just like any other city. but spending my whole life in Atlanta all I have is good memories of the place. Braves games, Centenial Olympic Park, Coke city, riding Marta, the Varsity. As bad as this sounds I enjoyed seein the bums they made our city too. I do find it kinda funny how a listing in the worlds 50 prettiest places or whatever got people arguing politics. I do also agree that the city has crazy potential. Also in Utah people aren’t nearly as nice as they were back home in Ga.

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Charlie

September 19th, 2009
12:51 pm

Are the Indigo Girls still going ahead tonight?????

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I can read

September 19th, 2009
2:14 pm

Hey Charlie…..Did you see the Indigo girls listed as canceled? NO! DUH!

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Charlie

September 19th, 2009
3:09 pm

Get over yourself jackass, things change constantly

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 19th, 2009
3:14 pm

Indigo Girls are still on, rain or shine. If we do hear of a cancellation, I’ll post it asap! Meanwhile, let’s keeps the comments respectful toward each other, please!

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Anna

September 19th, 2009
4:42 pm

Anybody know where to look for if the Braves Game is canceled tonight? I am on there site and if doesn’t have any info, leading me to believe that it is still on.

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jill

September 19th, 2009
10:19 pm

thank you for covering the atlanta dream. this team works hard and always plays hard and I hope the fan base grows bigger. come on atlanta!! support the dream!!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 19th, 2009
10:39 pm

Hi Anna! Sorry I missed this comment till now — I was already on my way to the Braves game. Hope you made it in and had a great time!

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k harris

September 19th, 2009
10:52 pm

I just returned home from the America I Am exhibit in Atlanta. I cried when I saw the Doors of No Return. To actually see with my own eyes what my parents taught me about my history was amazing. I could feel the energy of my ancestors. Its a shame how far we’ve come, and yet we remain ‘captive’.

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dro

September 20th, 2009
12:08 am

Hey akure, if you get any suggestions please let us/me know. It’s a tough age group and I would love to participate.

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[...] wrote about Girls Rock Camp Atlanta this summer, when the not-for-profit day camp held its week-long [...]

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Atlantan

September 20th, 2009
4:50 am

Top 100 places to live – yes. One of the more liveable metro areas in America with tons to do and see.

Top 100 places to visit in a lifetime – that is a stretch. Great place to visit, but I can’t say top 100 in the world in a lifetime. The south with Atlanta as a destination point yes, but just the city – no. Chris and Suzie must be shut-ins – clearly they didn’t get out and about in the city.

Still great press.

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janet

September 20th, 2009
7:48 am

Enter your comments here
If you save the paper MARTA ticket you can add a fare to it and save the 50cents you paid for the paper ticket. You can do this over and over.If you don’t have a Breeze Card and plan to use a bus to a train, you have to pay twice unless you have the paper ticket to begin with. No transfers available from bus to train without a Breeze card. So a bus to train without a Breeze card can cost 4.00 one way. Train to bus is still only 1.75/ after 1 Oct 2.00. Confusing? yes.

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Gregory

September 20th, 2009
8:52 am

So, where would I go to find out if the braves game was cancelled TODAY, september 20th @ 1:35

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Steve Pascale

September 20th, 2009
9:19 am

I saw the preview last night and must say I was disappointed. Naturally the music was wonderful and the dancers were talented. However, the staging and choreography lacked cleverness. I expected something smart and simple, not crowded and over done. There were too many leaps and fake falls. The stage action was ackward in its attempt to tell a story; it didn’t work. The music demanded dancing that was clever and simple; we got crowded and confusing.

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Shane

September 20th, 2009
9:22 am

Have you tried pandasearch.co.uk? It’s a Panda themed search engine.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 20th, 2009
11:21 am

Hi Gregory! At this point, the Braves game is still on, with no delays. They suggest that folks keep an eye on Braves.com for cancellations due to weather, but it seems the bad weather would have to be much more serious than the steady rain we’ve had lately. There’s always a chance the game could be delayed by rain at the start, or after it has started, but that’s the chance we take, I suppose.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 20th, 2009
11:23 am

Interesting, Steve. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it. Was it a good-sized crowd?

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Ann H

September 20th, 2009
3:09 pm

I saw it Friday night and couldn’t disagree with you more. My daughter is a ballerina and she couldn’t rave about it enough, either. We were very impressed wtih the choreography-as she said, “How do you even IMAGINE bodies doing that”, much less them actually doing it. The music, the band, the lights were all wonderful. It was a lovely tribute to Sinatra and amazing dance as well. The house was packed and the performance earned a standing ovation.

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Mark in Texas

September 20th, 2009
6:43 pm

As a Georgia native having to endure the Dallas metroplex, here is one that appreciated the beauty and uniqueness while living in Atlanta, but who appreciates it all the more while living elsewhere.

Haters are everywhere and best ignored. I love that others have seen and recognize that Atlanta is truly a unique city with a million treasures to be found within its huge scope.

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Allen Nyhuis

September 20th, 2009
7:52 pm

I really do hope that Atlantans will step up and support their Zoo Atlanta in their efforts to keep these amazing pandas. They are one of only 4 zoos on this Hemisphere with giant pandas.

Allen Nyhuis, Coauthor: America’s Best Zoos

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Mria Dangerfield

September 21st, 2009
8:21 am

These girls were great – especially the band, 500!
What a great opportunity for girls in Atlanta to rock out!
Go Girls Rock Camp!!!

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Michelle Friedman

September 21st, 2009
11:48 am

Thanks for covering the event! :) Paranormal, Quothe The Canary, 500, The Lockouts, The Unknown, and Akatsuki – ALL ROCKED!!!

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Lisa

September 21st, 2009
4:01 pm

Why is Georgia State not cancelling classes- endangering students- They don’t know where these kids have to travel to get back home all times a night.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 21st, 2009
4:52 pm

Lisa, the AJC just reported about 10 minutes ago that Georgia State canceled classes for tonight! Stay home and be safe!

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BJ C

September 21st, 2009
5:48 pm

This show really needs an “adult” warning label to let the potential audience know what they are going to see. As the show progressed, more and more clothing came off the dancers. At one point, the male dancers began taking the cloths off the female dancers as well as taking off their own. Then the make-out scenes, then they threw in a lesbian encounter. At that point I just had to walk out of the theater. This had such great potential. The music was fantastic, the dancing extraordinary, but the show was so objectionable morally I could never recommend.

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TD

September 22nd, 2009
8:22 am

I can do nothing but recommend this show! I went to the Saturday night preview with some friends and we had a blast. There was nothing more “adult” than what you would see on tv, no foul language, no nudity, just bodies in motion. Found the show to have so many different layers and details that I’m going to go again so I can catch something new that I may have missed before. I found it to be very clever, smart and a wonderful evening at the theater.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 22nd, 2009
12:10 pm

Thanks for the comments, everyone! Love seeing the variety of perspectives here.

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Class of '98

September 22nd, 2009
2:28 pm

Nerds and Mexican nerds.

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Class of '98

September 22nd, 2009
2:30 pm

The good news is that about 600 guys at DragonCon can finally say truthfully that they “danced with a female”.

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Name (required)

September 22nd, 2009
2:33 pm

Wow…..that’s a lot of people in Atlanta and Mexico who will never get laid.

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Classless '98

September 22nd, 2009
2:37 pm

You read the article redneck. What does that make you? Cool?

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Mary

September 22nd, 2009
3:01 pm

It sucks completely that we didn’t (or, might not, unless GWR overturns it) get the record, but my boyfriend and I still had a blast doing this.

Now that we have it memorized, we’re looking forward to breaking it out at parties. :D

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[...] wrote about the Dragon*Con “Thriller” dance earlier, but you can see the differences  in the dances [...]

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hmr

September 22nd, 2009
3:22 pm

Once again, when it comes to the subject of “geeks” and “nerds”, all of the asshats in Atlanta come out and show their ugly, immature faces. I couldn’t participate due to a leg injury, but I have friends who did and I think it is AWESOME that so many people came together to participate and have fun.

And for the record, I’m a 34-year old, attractive, geeky female and have ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS getting laid. Neither do my male friends who attend. You know those costumed fantasies most of you men dream about but never get to see? That’s DragonCon.

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bs

September 22nd, 2009
3:42 pm

Do we really need to burden our court system with something like this?

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Quagmire

September 22nd, 2009
3:44 pm

hmr said, “have ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS getting laid.”
I like you hmr, we should hook up! Giggity, Giggity!

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Blaspheme

September 22nd, 2009
3:50 pm

Mexico didn’t do the 6 minutes like we did. Seems obvious they wouldn’t get it for that but, I guess the easiest rules to break are your own (Guinness). It’s so funny to me that these narrow minded rednecks can still only come up with “nerd” to call us. Never get laid, psshh. Try going to D*C and NOT getting laid. Anyway, it’s probably a nerd that cuts your check at the carwash every week, so you have a good time with your squeegie and I’m gonna go see if I can find some more Slave Leia’s. Open your mind fellas, life’s a lot more fun when it’s not in tunnel vision.

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Ward

September 22nd, 2009
3:50 pm

Just so long as no one wasted their time doing this… or recording it… or auditing it… or appealing it…

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John

September 22nd, 2009
3:59 pm

I was in town for the Virginia Tech-Alabama game and stumbled upon this GEM of an event! I must say my sorrows from Tech losing were quickly erased when we wandered around Dragon Con for a night! Wow……getting wasted around 73 thousand weird ass people dressed in all kinds of costumes was alot of fun!

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Mary

September 22nd, 2009
4:44 pm

John, I’m glad to hear you had fun. A lot of con-goers had really bad experiences being abused by VATech fans (not so much Alabama, cause they were here with it last year), so it’s nice to hear someone who actually enjoyed the whole thing!

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JoeV

September 22nd, 2009
4:55 pm

Involving a lawyer?!?!?!?!?! WTF people? *shakes head*

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Bob

September 22nd, 2009
4:58 pm

Oh, good LORD will you people KNOCK IT OFF with the NERD thing! First off, nerds are hot. Second, you’ll find more body appropriate spandex at a Dragon*Con then you’d ever see anywhere else on the friggin’ planet and IN that body appropriate spandex are individuals that are MORE than inclined to use the bodies they were given and/or worked for. Remember, that spandex contains breasts THAT AREN’T YOURS! Third, the nerds aren’t the ones hiding behind their keyboards slinging insults. And finally, didja ever see Carrie? Be careful who you make fun of. You never know who has the power. In this case, the nerds are the ones with the power to EASILY trash your credit rating. Chill, already.

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i'm just sayin

September 22nd, 2009
5:03 pm

whenever i think of dragon*con, i think of guys that don’t have a chance in hell of moving out of their parents’ basement. for every bill gates and george lucas, there are millions of comic book collectors that live at home and have no social skills.

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JoeV

September 22nd, 2009
5:05 pm

I have a college degree from a top 25 school, a good job with a nice salary, and I’m married to a beautiful woman that teaches special needs kids…

I think you people are effin nuts. Not b/c of dragon con, but b/c you actually find this record important enough to involve a lawyer. Insanity. And you wonder why the “cool” people STILL make fun of you.

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Bob

September 22nd, 2009
5:10 pm

“I’m just sayin’”? That’s because you’ve never gone to Dragon*Con. I’m not saying that we don’t have our share of unbathed slackers, but most people are just normal. OK, relatively normal in light of the costumes.

Ward. Thriller wasn’t a waste of time at all. I’d do it again and again because it’s fun. The record is kind of at the bottom of the list of priorities concerning the dance itself. The best part was just being part of something that huge and making new friends in the process.

JoeV and BS? This doesn’t involve the court system as of yet. The appeal is strictly with Guinness. There is no legal action taken at this time.

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JoeV

September 22nd, 2009
5:13 pm

Bob,

I didn’t mention the courts, although BS did. A lawyer was called…enough said.

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Kat

September 22nd, 2009
5:17 pm

It is funny (sarcasm intended) how some people try to tear down what other people do only to make themselves feel better. Sounds a lot like…HIGH SCHOOL! Grow up!

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The Peregrine

September 22nd, 2009
5:20 pm

Hey there! Undead “Marie Antoinette” in the 2nd row here! Which of you comment-section-trolling little boys wants to step up to me?

Hmmmm?

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kanislatrans

September 22nd, 2009
5:34 pm

Enter your comments here

The wife and I had a great time at D*C and this event. Granted, I have two left feet and no sense of rhythm,but it was fun just the same. It was great to hang with a lot of really fun and enthusiastic people and try to do something different for a change.

LOL, I enjoyed watching all the Con chicks dissing the jockboys at the Hyatt. (grin) but don’t worry they weren’t laughing at you,boys. they were laughing with you…honest.(grin) payback is a hot bitch in a spandex costume sometimes….

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Bob

September 22nd, 2009
5:36 pm

JoeV: The lawyer was not “called”. He’s the husband of one of the organizers and was instrumental in making sure that all of Guinness’ rules were followed to the letter. In doing so, he has every right to be involved with this appeal process with Guinness because they appear to have not used their own guidelines in deciding which attempt to accept as the record-holder.

The guidelines were as follows:

1. The number of people who are hoping to constitute the record must all be well versed in the dance moves.
2. A loud start and finish signal recognized by all participants must be used. Two experienced timekeepers (e.g. from a local athletics club) must time the attempt with stopwatches accurate to 0.01 seconds.
3. All participants must dance from the start to the end of the song.
4. The original Michael Jackson’s Thriller (USA) music must be played loud enough for all participants to hear.
5. The original dance movements from the Thriller movie must be performed by all participants.
6. Participants may be in a single line; any number of lines or in any other arrangement.
7. All participants must be performing the same routine simultaneously, thus all participants must be able to either see instructors or follow their movements on a video screen.
8. The chosen dance area must be large enough to not only hold the people but to allow them to dance unrestricted the required steps.

What’s in question are guidelines 3, 5 and 7. Not everyone in Mexico danced to the whole song (their MJ impersonator danced to more than half and the rest only performed to about 3 minutes of the video choreography) and the music from the video was played rather than the 6 minute album version which is what we were told by Guinness to use.

We do not, in any way, want to diminish what Mexico did, but we feel that they should be granted a separate record based on the guidelines we were given.

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Kimber

September 22nd, 2009
6:12 pm

There will be no court involved. This is between the organizer and Guinness. It’s not important enough to anyone to fight it in the court system, not to mention it would be England’s court, so we’re not even going there. Get your panties out of the wad, k?

I’ve spoken to three other people that have attempted this very record, two of which held it, and they had the very same requirements we were given. I don’t care if people don’t think this is important, but I think it is to a certain point. Technically, the event in Leicester, England should hold the record right now with 475 dancers since that beats Kevin Dua’s record of 242. It’s not fair to Kevin or Anand (the English organizer), and it’s really not fair to the original holder of the record, Ines Markelle, who first made the record in Toronto of 2006. All three of them followed Guinness’ guidelines, as we did, and that’s how Mexico and Barcelona should be judge (Barcelona also attempted it on August 29th with 700 but also did the wrong version).

Why make rules if they’re not expected to be followed? How would Georgia fans feel if during the Georgia/Florida game the rules were changed to reflect something the Gators did that hurt the Bulldogs’ chance to win the game, but didn’t give the Bulldog’s the same option? Same thing regardless if it’s a bunch of nerds or mundanes. Changing the rules in the middle of a competition isn’t fair no matter what, and that’s the point we’re trying to make. If we can’t get Guinness to see they’ve made a mistake, we’ll move on to something else. We all know who holds the record in truth, though, and that’s us with 903 dancers.

And really? Nerds not getting laid? Are we still in high school? Grow up, and thanks for playing.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 22nd, 2009
6:25 pm

Sorry to be jumping into this so late — lots of news to keep us busy in Atlanta today — but please keep the comments respectful, and move the conversation forward. I welcome a variety of perspectives, but we can share those perspectives without insulting each other. Thanks, everybody!

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BFox

September 22nd, 2009
6:28 pm

I was dancer #618 and had the honor of being a dance captain for the Dragon*Con event. It was a fantastic experience, a wonderful tribute to MJ, and created inumerable new friendships among the participants, so even if Guinness won’t follow their own rules, we gained far more than we lost. BUT (and this is mostly addressed to those rolling their eyes at us having a lawyer involved) why would we NOT fight for something we worked so hard for? And to truly fight we must have someone meticulous and versed in the legal system. It would be a slap in the face to all the participants to not fight for their record, and sheer stupidity to do it without a lawyer backing us. I’m sorry if there are some that cannot understand what a cool thing this was, but everyone that was there knows, and there are thousands more who went to Dragon*Con who are kicking themselved for not participating. I’m looking forward to dancing again next year, for a Guinness record or not!

Brooke (hot nerd & Evey Hammond [V for Vendetta] in the offical video)

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lola runs with scissors

September 22nd, 2009
6:44 pm

Seems the issue to discuss here would be Guinness World Records and their requirements and how seriously those requirements should be taken. Sure it’s pretty silly to go for a record in anything if you think about it, but Guinness is a money making business with an old reputation for having high standards. If they aren’t sticking to those standards, then what are their records worth really?

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E

September 22nd, 2009
6:46 pm

Geeky looking girls are very hot. Especially at night!!!

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Brock Samson

September 22nd, 2009
7:51 pm

Seems appropos Dragoncon would pick a song by Michael Jackson to dance to, given their founder’s predicament.
Oh, and the prison in the Philippines did it better. And with 400+ more dancers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o
And, for the record, D*C attendees aren’t geeks or nerds.
They’re dorks.

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Katie

September 22nd, 2009
8:08 pm

Dragon con definitly isn’t my thing, but I am SO proud to see my fellow citizens come together like that and pull off something so good! I was AMAZED at how together everyone was and how well they all did!

Did you guys have to rehearse alot?

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Maya

September 22nd, 2009
8:22 pm

Their problem was requiring attendees to be registered for the convention, the costumes, and the small amount of space they had. I understand “containment” for better control, but it obscured the point. Face it, the pictures of the feat look puny compared to the Mexico version. With as many fans as Jackson has here in Atlanta, the Dragon*Con version shocks in it’s lack.
They should try again next year. Or better yet, some other group should try in Centennial Park on the one-year anniversary of his passing. Keep Dragon*Con, nerdiness, lawyers, and too many restrictions out of this. They sucked the fun out of “Thriller”. C’mon!

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nn

September 22nd, 2009
8:45 pm

Maya, you suck

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Sabrina

September 22nd, 2009
9:08 pm

Nerds, geeks, dorks. All of which invent all the devices in which you “normals” wouldn’t be able to live without. They teach your children, run the companies you work for and in essence rule the world. SO before you go giving “virtual wedgies” to people who appear different than you, maybe you should look around first and make sure the nerd, geek or dork who signs your paycheck isn’t dressed in a Stormtrooper costume getting his groove on with a hot Lara Croft costumed vixen. You might be surprised at what you find. Oh, and I am sure there are several “normals” out there who geek out in their own way. Pass judgment, do not, young Padawan, for the GEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH!

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Koko

September 22nd, 2009
9:53 pm

I just think it’s funny how people who play fantasy football think they can make fun of people who play DnD. If you’re a football fan, you go to lots of games, you tailgate, and you paint your face/chest/dye your hair, you’re a geek… just about something slightly more mainstream. It’s no different from people who choose to dress up as stormtroopers, and a good deal less expensive. Just saying.

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rebelliousrose

September 22nd, 2009
10:01 pm

Sabrina- Arva, seester! ;}

Either way, it was a lot of fun for the participants, and I do think that Guinness is being a bit lax with their own rules- I think the separate records is a good, and fair to everyone idea.

As to the people who are insulting the people who attend DragonCon? No one will be safe until nerd persecution ends.

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Rodney King

September 22nd, 2009
10:48 pm

CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALOOOOOONG!!!

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semihero

September 22nd, 2009
11:11 pm

came here to joking post nerds, but after watching the video I’ll have to say that was pretty darn cool. the D*C version of course.

and Brock, we’re not just dorks, we’re dorks who love to party!

/partydork

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DLink

September 22nd, 2009
11:36 pm

13,000 people… Much respect. I love dragon con, liked MJ, and the guy died tryin. I gotta give it up for Mexico, though, they came out in force! And for anyone who thinks otherwise; see Brock upstairs from me. It’s fame on the internets precedes it to a far greater fame than Guinness and trivial bashering about the internet about numbers and form. I’d give the record for Conventions to Atlanta, record for volume to Mexico, and record for best performance to the Philippines (thanks Brock).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o
(Checked to be sure, yep, that’s the one. And as hmr mentioned, Dragon Con isn’t about the awards, it’s about geek lovin. People don’t die at our parties… Roger Rabbit always gets saved :)

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Proud Nerd

September 22nd, 2009
11:39 pm

the girls of dragon Con…

http://www.maxim.com/girls/girls-of-maxim/84060/girls-dragon-con-part-1.html

And i saw girls wearing less then that…

yep… Dragon Con is not for youngings…. and after looking at the babes we have floating around in costume at D*C… I would have to say…

Score one for the Nerds!!!

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Bob

September 22nd, 2009
11:42 pm

@Katie: We all had about 3 hours of rehearsal time together in spread-out groups just prior to the attempt. Some of us used the thrilltheworld.com videos to practice beforehand and there were small groups that got together at random points over the course of the weekend but we only had one run-through all together right before the attempt. By that point we figured we had it as well as we were gonna have it.

All in all, world-records and lawyers and Guinness craziness aside, it was still the most awesome thing I have ever done and I will never forget it

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Vampirella

September 23rd, 2009
2:42 am

As is obv., many people who attend this “convention” are incredibly thin-skinned when a wee bit o’ sport is made of crowd of people who glue pointy ears to themselves. It’s also worth noting that d*c was founded by an oddball who takes oatmeal baths and sits indicted as a child molester. Do they still sponsor fund-raisers for the wheezing freak? Does he get under-the-table income from d*c?

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GothBunny

September 23rd, 2009
9:04 am

First off I was one of the D*Con Thriller dancers, I am married with 3 children (so much for the nerds don’t get laid comments) and I give a huge congrats to Mexico for the shear number of people who came out to show their love for MJ, but if they danced the correct version required by Guinness should they not have a full length version of this posted on the various video websites like youtube? All us good, fun-loving D*Con Thriller people have a FULL LENGTH video showing our attempt for the record! And to all you haters out there: Karma is a bitch and she will get you!!!

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Clinton

September 23rd, 2009
9:14 am

Ha ha. Nice to see that hate is alive and well among many of these responders. Hope that works out for you. Realy, I do. Meanwhile, people who want to get off their butts and have some fun are busy making other plans. They party with friends and dance to “Thriller.” Way to go!

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Martin

September 23rd, 2009
10:42 am

@i’m just sayin – I went to Dragon*Con. I do not live in my parents basement, but rather have my own apartment where I live. I work as a Regulatory Attorney by day. I regularly go out with friends and participate in a myriad of Social activities.

I think you need to re-think your opinion of Dragon*Con attendees. Your claims are more correct for certain Star Trek Groups, but Dragon*Con is above that.

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Kimber

September 23rd, 2009
2:32 pm

The prisoners are awesome, yes, but this isn’t about performance abilities. If we had all day every day to practice, and nothing else to do, we all could dance like that. This is about Guinness changing the rules in the middle of the game. Step away from the prisoners because they’re not even contenders in this discussion (although I do recommend their other videos…they do all sorts of dances not just Thriller).

@Maya — It was a DragonCon event, so anyone that participated had to have a membership. Just like if you wanted to go to see Shatner and Nimoy or Terry Giliam, you would have to have a membership. There’s no getting around that.

It was done in a ballroom this year because that’s how it had to be done. Sorry you disagree, but it had to be done on-site, and ballrooms are what we have to work with. If you disagree on how it had to be done, then you are more than welcome to organize an event yourself in the park or where ever.

The whole point of our argument is NOT who looked better, but who followed the rules. I think Mexico deserves the recognition for getting that many people out there, but not the Guinness record. Just like the William and Mary students, the Thrill the World people, and Leicester, England participants, we followed the guidelines set by Guinness themselves, and Mexico did not. And since I was the organizer and the one involved with Guinness since May (we started this going before MJ died), I can answer any questions as to what those guidelines are.

And again I ask to please get over this whole middle-school name calling. I know the internet is anonymous and many people feel they can just hurl insults (White Republican Male, you have been reported, btw), and that goes for both sides. We enjoy our weekend at DragonCon for many different reasons. We see old friends, drink, costume, go to panels, play games, hook up, and *gasp* even watch football on Saturday afternoon. Grow up, already.

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Kimber

September 23rd, 2009
2:36 pm

Oh, and as far as the person that started DragonCon, he hasn’t been a part of this for many, many years. I would even go so far to say that most of the people that attend wouldn’t know who he is. Moving on…

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Mark

September 23rd, 2009
3:17 pm

It’s “Roy” not Ron

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Ailarie

September 23rd, 2009
8:43 pm

Wow. It’s amazing how anonymity of the internet brings out the worst in some people. Tsk. Tsk. I must comment on one thing… for those who choose to bash DragonCon attendees as being nerds.. please keep in mind that we are ALL nerds, dweebs or geeks in some aspects of our lives. Dance. Sports. Art. Gaming. Fitness. Choices of career. What is an amazing experience and/or lifestyle for one person is a complete drab for another. Sometimes, it is even incomprehensible.

With all that being said – if DragonCon isn’t your thing, that’s cool. However, to attempt to discredit the intelligence or passion of any of those who chose to dance in the routine, rather shows a lack of education and consideration for anyone other than yourself.

For those of us who did dance: We met new friends. We overcame challenges. We bonded with strangers. We participated in something very few people will ever do. We had a blast. Regardless of what Guinness finally rules, we have memories that petty people will never diminish.

We ARE the 2009 DragonCon Thriller dancers. Hear us roar. (roar-turn?)

So Say We All.

Elizabeth. Dancer # 770.

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Blaspheme

September 23rd, 2009
10:57 pm

Well put Ailarie. I for one will never understand the allure of sports. Do I bash them? No. I think it’s great that people can get together for sporting events, it’s exciting to share something with so many people that you don’t even know.

Now look at it from the other side. Are we really so different? You paint yourselves, wear wigs, dress up for your team etc. This year, I painted all exposed skin (face and neck), wore a wig, and armor. Showing enthusiasm is showing enthusiasm no matter how you look at it.

I’d love to see a day where the football fans make their way into the hotels to join us after their game and have a drink with us, hell buy a ticket for Sunday and actually DANCE Thriller with us. I can’t guarantee it’ll change your life but, if you just let go, forget about all those misconceptions and everything you thought you knew about us, I think you’d be in for one of the most (no pun intended) thrilling events of your life. It’s all about fun.

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September 24th, 2009
12:07 am

[...] For kids: “Your Jewish World,” exhibition continues, 10 a.m.-5:30 p.m, Marcus Jewish Community Center’s Sophie Hirsch Scrochi Jewish Discovery Museum, Dunwoody. FREE. STORY. [...]

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Faye Moore

September 24th, 2009
2:44 am

Hi, I’m Emory and Preston’s grandmother. I’ve brought them to the Nature Center three times. I am so impressed with this wonderful place! The concept is marvelous as a learning center for all of us. Thank you for making this available to all of us. Keep up the good work.

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Jenny

September 24th, 2009
4:34 am

White Water sign

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FCM

September 24th, 2009
6:22 am

I’m with Jenny, I believe I saw this sign the last time I took my kids to American Adventures, right next door to White Water.

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BigJake

September 24th, 2009
6:34 am

Definitely the White Water sign at the entrance

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Dana

September 24th, 2009
6:41 am

Definitely White Waters!!! Looks like they have some rust.

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Snowman

September 24th, 2009
7:28 am

The Ride the Ducks bus/boat at Stone Mountain

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Christy Bentjen

September 24th, 2009
7:35 am

yep, Ride the Duck at Stone Mtn. They give you a quacking horn to blow that the grandparents just love!

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Pat

September 24th, 2009
7:37 am

It’s the amphibious truck at Stone Mtn. also known as the Duck Ride

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chuck

September 24th, 2009
7:58 am

saw it floating under the I-20 bridge

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Robin

September 24th, 2009
8:15 am

It’s the Ride the Ducks ride at Stone Mountain

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Bill

September 24th, 2009
8:19 am

Quack quack…
It’s Ride the Ducks. Worked at SMP for two summers – would spot it anywhere.

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Tammy

September 24th, 2009
8:29 am

I am also going to say the White Water Sign.

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Ellen

September 24th, 2009
8:40 am

Enter your comments here
SMP Duck!!

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Shane

September 24th, 2009
9:34 am

MIKE

September 24th, 2009
9:44 am

LOL!!! @ Chuck’s comment

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Jamie

September 24th, 2009
9:48 am

Ride the Ducks at Stone Mountain Park!
it is the logo

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SR Hazard

September 24th, 2009
9:55 am

Looks like the Duck Boats @ Stone Mountain to me!

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Sheron

September 24th, 2009
9:58 am

N+ever been to White Water but that would be my guess.

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JMS

September 24th, 2009
11:11 am

I googled it, it is Ride the duck!

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Richard Bagge

September 24th, 2009
12:41 pm

“This year’s concert series features country and contemporary Christian artists.”

Same as the last twenty years, then.

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John

September 24th, 2009
1:38 pm

What, no pig races this year??

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SMJ

September 24th, 2009
1:54 pm

It’s the floor at Eagle night club.

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BamaFan

September 24th, 2009
1:57 pm

Chuck is hilarious

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VOL FAN

September 24th, 2009
2:16 pm

Interactive Neighborhood for Kids in Gainesville, GA

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Get Real!

September 24th, 2009
3:42 pm

Flood Warning Sign that ended up in my basement.

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UGAFan101

September 24th, 2009
3:51 pm

Ima bring my sister…she’s my girlfriend too!

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Kristia

September 24th, 2009
3:55 pm

This will be my first time going. Thanks for the info.

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Der

September 24th, 2009
7:00 pm

Hey UGAfan101 ain’t you my uncle daddy?

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Diane

September 24th, 2009
8:23 pm

Interesting comments here. Am I missing something about the fair?

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Ward

September 24th, 2009
9:42 pm

Just that urbane, open-minded sophisticates feel it’s okay, even admirable to mock anything the least bit traditional, rural or wholesome in life. That’s all.

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UGAFan101

September 24th, 2009
10:21 pm

Diane you’re late to the party! You also missed out on uptight dorks who take life waaaaay waaaay too seriously….

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bwright

September 24th, 2009
11:43 pm

It’s the side of a frosty treats ice cream truck you’ll find them everywhere.

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Jade Hill

September 25th, 2009
9:14 am

No “Giant Stove” like the Michigan State Fair of yesteryear but make sure you get some of the roasted corn on the cob from the boy scouts. It’s the best!!!

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bobfromacworth

September 25th, 2009
9:39 am

Why does everything here need to be compared to up north where ya’ll come from? Just enjoy what there is at the fair and stop the “Oh, it was better where we came from”…

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GPark

September 25th, 2009
10:34 am

Enter your comments here

Don’t forget the Grant Park Tour of Homes this weekend!

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Sarah

September 25th, 2009
11:04 am

The lasttimethe fair was here,my husband and I made out in a porta-potty. Memories……..

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Jack Schitt

September 25th, 2009
11:37 am

This year they have a booth where they try to guess the # of natural teeth you have. If they miss by more than 3, you get a UGA t-shirt and hat. That way you will fit in with the rest of the University of Georgia rednecks on gameday. Now you can say you know Jack Schitt.

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Rachael Dempsey

September 25th, 2009
1:11 pm

Oh I’ve been wondering what fairs would be like here. I miss them from Arizona so much! Thank you Jamie!

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SHeer

September 25th, 2009
1:54 pm

CONTEMPORARY CHRISTIAN ARTISTS, EH? Do they give drool buckets when you enter the venue?

I betcha those lyrics are just plain rootin and tootin! (said in Sarah Palin dippy voice)

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Alpharetta Dave

September 25th, 2009
2:11 pm

I hear you can see Russia from on top of the ferris wheel!

- Darn Tootin!

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Larry

September 25th, 2009
2:28 pm

Don’t forget the # of moles on your sister contest.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 25th, 2009
3:27 pm

Truly, the comments on this blog post have gone in a much different direction than I’d expected.

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Jimbo

September 25th, 2009
4:41 pm

Well, Jamie, it is an article about a fair… and with a concert series with that level of talent, what did you expect really?

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BJH

September 25th, 2009
5:27 pm

Ima bring my whole family, Okay

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becky

September 25th, 2009
5:29 pm

I’m confused. Why didn’t the horse just take Peachtree to the courtyard? Doesn’t this face out with an opening to Peachtree?

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Richard Bagge

September 25th, 2009
5:37 pm

I mock, but there is a thrill ride here called the Cyclops which is the greatest ride in the world.

And Jade Hill is correct, the roasted corn really is amazingly tasty.

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MOT

September 25th, 2009
6:07 pm

Jamie, ignore the ignorants. We were army and when we were in SC for just four short months, we were there September and October and for one day, the kids get out of school and are given free tix to get in to the state fair. The sights and aromas that are distinctly that of fair fare have indelibly left the connection of fair time and autumn for me.

I was sad when we moved here with our kids and found Ga didn’t give the day off from school or the free tix for school kids, but other than that the fair is a fun time full of nostalgia and the official start of autumn for us!

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Common Sense

September 25th, 2009
7:01 pm

Wow, I was just trying to confirm the Mexico Thriller record and see all this. I can’t believe this childish insanity. “Nerds” have the most money, most power… Think Bill Gates was a social butterfly??? …and if you want to get biblical, “the meek shall inherit”…oh wait, I guess that already happend? God or Darwin, either way, join us or get your paychecks from us, it doesn’t matter.

Now as the intellectually superior here, let me state simply… Rules are rules… In a game of football, if a team broke the rules…say, had identical triplet running backs that they switched out during game time. They didn’t play by the rules, but they had the most people, so they should win? Just as you bullies who THINK you are the majority would fuss over a bad call or a broken rule in sports, this is something we had passion about, we did it within the rules, and we were not recognized. Maybe simpler for discrimination, maybe due to stupidity, it doesn’t matter.

I could go into the whole ‘omg why get a lawyer’ talk, but analyzing the lack of comprehension hurts my head. I have lawyers deal with ebay sellers who send me the wrong item…but it’s simply cheaper to have him deal with it, then deal with it myself. *shrug* Tis life.

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drewmanc

September 25th, 2009
8:06 pm

MOT — where did you move from?

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 25th, 2009
10:25 pm

Hi Becky! I don’t know all the paths they considered, but was told the walls and buildings around Sifly Piazza were, in some cases, just shy of safely getting the horse into the space. (To be clear, this is the courtyard area that opened with the expansion in 2005, has the restaurant seating etc. It was always intended to include outdoor sculpture, although they obviously didn’t plan for a 24-foot horse and its base.)

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Willx

September 25th, 2009
11:11 pm

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Willx

September 25th, 2009
11:22 pm

Why is it some people have to make an inane comment about everything they see? If you have nothing constructive to add to the conversation when asked, just move along. Find something nice to say about something or anyone. It won’t embarrass you nearly as much as you think.
Jamie, welcome to the Atlanta area. Please disregard the twitterheads, I think most of us appreciate the simpler sights, sounds, and even tastes of our daily planet. We won’t remember that expensive trinket, but we will remember an unexpected kind gesture.

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Bill Paleveda

September 25th, 2009
11:36 pm

This weekend is also the beginning of the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra’s season.

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[...] we’re all aware that I’m a big fan of the dinosaur fossils at Fernbank and Tellus, but I’m not geeking out when I say it’s even cooler to see those creatures [...]

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ButlerDawg

September 26th, 2009
1:22 am

My Weekend T-Don’t List:
Watching Willie Martinez coach the Dawgs defense in Athens…P U!!!

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[...] we’re all aware that I’m a big fan of the dinosaur fossils at Fernbank and Tellus, but I’m not geeking out when I say it’s even cooler to see those creatures moving [...]

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 26th, 2009
1:36 am

Thanks for the suggestions, GPark and Bill! We mentioned the ASO opener in an earlier to-do list, but it’s always good for folks to have a reminder. :)

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Me

September 26th, 2009
3:31 am

@Common Sense – First of all, you rock. Thank you.

Secondly, to the people who are still crying “omg why get a lawyer” – Shut up.
Nobody got a lawyer. The husband of one of the organizers is a lawyer. All he did was write a letter to Guinness, pointing out that they are screwing up their own rules. So, basically, it was a request to give Mexico their own, separate record and give the Dragon*Con attendees the one that they competed for and executed 100% to the Guinness guidelines. That’s all.

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Gunny

September 26th, 2009
9:02 am

The Fair this year will most likley be the same, with the exception of entertainment. These names are familiar, however not the the usual big name or popular artists as in the past. This is no doubt an indication of the Fair going downhil a tad. I am sure most will agree.
Prices are about the usual. Look for coupons and special bargain days!!
Any newcomers worried about safety, kids ect don’t worry a whole lot. There will be more than enough of Cobbs Law Enforcemnt on hand to put you at ease and for those who wish to act like a fool, harrass, or otherwise attempt to ruin everyone elses time..you might want to give it a differnet approach this year. Your behavior shall be delt with swiftly.
Hope you all have a great time this year. If you get hungry, which i’m sure you might, visit one of the food concessions that are trying ot raise money for a schoo, charity ect. The folks there are volunteering, the prices are usaully cheaper, the service def more friendly and you are really helping a worthy cause to generate some funds.

Semper Fi….Gunny

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RedTornado

September 26th, 2009
9:14 am

The fair was fun last year. The scent of funnel cake. The ferris wheel. and genuine good people. With that said, why are there morons like UGAfan101, jimbo, Jack eats Schitt wasting space in life? Good luck with kicking your dawg, and washing off the stench you emit.

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Connie

September 26th, 2009
10:01 am

If you attend the fair on Wednesday, Sept. 30th and stay around to catch Joe Nichols in concert, you will discover that the fair organizers have booked a real gem. Joe is the real deal and you will be amazed at his voice, his ease on stage and ability to help you have a good time. By golly!

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Dave The Wave

September 26th, 2009
10:42 am

RT, Jack loves to troll the sites and crap them up – pun intended. But, if you can look past him and his kind you will find that there are some great folks around. And the fair – go for the food and the rides. If you don’t ride, just walk the Midway. What a treat. And there is nothing like fair food. Yummm… See you there!

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[...] through the “Gold” exhibition at Fernbank Museum of Natural History, it’s easy to see why this element has been a part of [...]

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Anthony

September 26th, 2009
12:49 pm

I wonder if the KKK is still allowed to have a booth there? When I grew up going they always had a booth handing out flyers dressed in their white robes. Can you imagine being black and having to walk past that?

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jesus wept

September 26th, 2009
1:35 pm

This fair is truly AWFUL. We’ve been 3 times over a 12 year period and NOTHING changes. Never again!!! Its a rip off. The exhibit halls were never full and its the same old same old every year!! And they blatantly discriminate against non-christians every time we’ve attended. If you DO NOT have a copy of some misbegotten church newsletter you don’t get a discount. This is outrageous, bible thumpers get different treatment from everyone else. The food is absolutely awful – mostly its smug church groups and their like offering vile fast food, or the disgusting fair ground stalls ripping you off for their greasy/sugary slop. Its $13 for two adults with parking. The covered arena events were a joke every time we went. Listening to christian music is mind numbingly boring – like going to your local Chik-Fila. Who exactly are these artists listed? The annual fair up in Hiawassee has vastly better concerts, with performers you’ve usually heard of – Patty Loveless among others – vastly superior exhibits and on the occasions we’ve attended – vastly better food. It is well worth the long drive north.

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Canna

September 27th, 2009
6:18 am

Southern Fried Smackdown Rollerderby Regional Tourney: Today (Sunday) is the last day to see teams battle it out for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th places in the South Central Region. These are some of the best teams in the nation! Only the top 3 teams go on to the National Tournament in Philly in November to face the best teams in the nation.

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Marian

September 27th, 2009
7:17 am

It was totally awsome!!! Two hours of captivating wonder and oh yes, the chronicle history of the evolvement of earth while walking with the dinosaurs!!! The narrator is superb!!!

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MH Brown

September 27th, 2009
9:28 am

A fabulous exhibit at Fernbank Musuem (the one with the IMAX) opened Saturday called GOLD. It is all about gold, not just the mineral, but the uniquely human abstraction of it that makes us lie, cheat, steal and obsess about possessing it. Additionally, there is a side gallery, “The Local Connection,” that explains how Georgia was shaped by its own gold rush in 1828–the nation’s first, predating the California rush by twenty years. Lastly, this side gallery also includes various awards won by Georgian’s from Andre’ 3000 of Outkast to Brenda Lee. Don’t miss it!

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 27th, 2009
10:05 am

Hi MH! Here’s my write-up and photos from the exhibit: http://blogs.ajc.com/inside-access/2009/09/26/photos-gold-opens-at-fernbank-museum-sept-26/

Without a doubt, my favorite part was “The Local Connection.” After all the science, history and eye candy, the room full of local artifacts made the entire thing more relevant. Glad you enjoyed, too!

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Jane

September 27th, 2009
11:15 am

Thank you for the article! My husband and I just moved to Alpharetta from California and we were hoping to find a fair to go to during fall! I see there are idiots that are just plain rude anywhere you go.

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The Truth

September 27th, 2009
2:10 pm

Don’t be fooled by the negative posts here. It’s a FAIR. Not an amusement park. If you want to spend 75.00 a person and drive 7 hours to Orlando…the FAIR is not for you. The N.GA State Fair is everything it’s supposed to be. It’s got a local flavor, has Christian and Country Music Concerts, and greesy, sweet, non healthy foods. I’m not sure what people expect from the fair? And for those non-Christian/Country music fans….there is plenty of extremely loud Rock and Hip Hop Music playing all over the Midway. Relax…..It’s the Fair…not Disney World.

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rachael

September 27th, 2009
5:06 pm

once again, we saved the community center with a dance party.

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Frank

September 27th, 2009
9:36 pm

Jaime, I need a date to the fair. Will you go with me please? I will meet you at the Varsity at 7:00 Friday night! I would like to talk more, but I have to go shave my back hair before it takes over the world like the Blob did in the 1970’s movie! LOL Just kidding, we all need to laugh more! Remember, laughter is the best medicine!!! Besides, neither one of my wives would let me go anyway! LOL

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Dina

September 28th, 2009
9:04 am

Is it really that “churchy?” Or, is it a typical fun state fair with animals, beer, junk food, rides, blue ribbon awards, etc. I am very city, but I love state fairs and regional festivals. However, I don’t want to go to a big outdoor church event.

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Jamie Gumbrecht

September 28th, 2009
9:38 am

Hi Dina! I can’t speak from personal experience because this is my first year of fair-going around here, but my impression from friends and coworkers is that it’s a regular fair, and there are some Christian concerts and church presence, if you want to seek those out. It sounds to me like every other fair and neighborhood festival I’ve been to.

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Fair Fan

September 28th, 2009
1:14 pm

The North GA. Fair is a great fun Fair!! The concerts are fun! I have no idea what some people expect from a Fair!! I do wish all the rude people would take their comments and post somewhere else! If you don’t like the Fair – please I beg you don’t go and don’t spoil it for someone that would like to go and enjoy a fun day/night!!

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Jeff-b

September 28th, 2009
2:02 pm

For the losers on here who talk about geeks and nerds who will never get laid, all i have to say is one thing – You’ve never been to Dragon*con.

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Dina

September 28th, 2009
3:05 pm

I’ll check it out and see it for myself. Fairs are meant to be laidback, full of junk food, and loaded with kitsch. It is nice sometimes to just be outside instead of rotting in front of a tv/laptop screen and take in the start of fall. It is also wonderful to drive to the North Georgia country in the crispy fall air to visit the Dahlonega wineries or view the waterfall at Amicalola State Park. Georgia is a beautiful state and full of wonderful sites.

As long as no one hands me flyer that say “Repent and you will be saved” or “Pro-Life” propoganda, I am a happy camper ;) .

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Rob

September 28th, 2009
6:22 pm

See the real deal at Fredrick Meijer Gardens in Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Harold

September 29th, 2009
6:45 am

Beer? Ha ha ha ha! No, there is no beer. This is a Churchy event with some carnival rides and goats. It looks and smells like a fair, but it’s a Churchy thing. Your ticket will have Jesus propaganda on it, assuming you are required to get a ticket for not having a church bulletin or a copy of the Marietta Daily Church Bulletin (aka Journal, ha)

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grav3y

September 29th, 2009
11:35 am

I thoroughly enjoyed being a part of this! thanks to rachael, anna, kevin, and nathan!

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Carol and Mike

September 29th, 2009
6:11 pm

We are looking forward to seeing Joe Nichols and Billy Currington, both are very good country stars.

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Ronald Millsaps

September 29th, 2009
8:19 pm

I’m concerned, not so much because the Marlins have two runs (I know they can hit) but because the Braves’ bats are cold. They need to wake up–soon.

I’m concerned. I’m praying. Go, Braves.

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Eric

September 30th, 2009
10:15 am

Glad they can find the money to rebuild it….when none of the companies responsible for the collapse have made any efforts to compensate the family of the dead worker or any of the other injured workers. Truly disgusting.

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Lily P

September 30th, 2009
10:29 am

Eric, that’s not true. The botanical garden raised over $100,000 for the injured workers after the accident and all those monies were distributed to them thorugh United Way.

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Chuck

September 30th, 2009
10:35 am

Enter your comments here
First the parking deck, then the walkway, and now they’ve clearcut trees all the way down to the houses on Monroe Drive….and they call this a “Green Expansion”. What a joke!

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Sam

September 30th, 2009
10:35 am

To that point, the construction team involved partnered with the Botanical Garden and the public to raise those funds that were distributed to the family of the deceased and the injured workers. All of the funds were distributed within two months of the incident.

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adam

September 30th, 2009
11:02 am

chuck,

the parking deck increased greenspace.

also, it’s a botanical garden, not a forest. would you rather raze all the structures in the garden and piedmont park to return it to the wild?

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molly

September 30th, 2009
11:18 am

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molly

September 30th, 2009
11:19 am

I guess they made the money to rebuild it by laying off employees there. Nice.

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American Dream

September 30th, 2009
11:38 am

Maybe the gardens can host Wrestlemania now. We could have a skyscraper match between myself, Dusty Rhodes the American Dream and Dirty Dick Slater. This would draw a bog crowd for the gardens.

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Eileen Z

September 30th, 2009
11:44 am

Enter your comments here
Come on folks — the Atl Botanical Garden is a cultural icon. It breathes life into Midtown and provides Atlantan’s with yet another great venue to call our own. It’s truly the best use of land I’ve seen in a long time! 30 acres dedicated to education, horticulture, sustainability and sheer beauty — let’s gear our “griping” toward a more warranted cause, shall we?

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The Mudgeon

September 30th, 2009
11:46 am

For ever and a day we’ll have to look at this structure up in the canopy of the trees. Lest we forget what the Indians thought of the forest:

When you enter a grove peopled with ancient trees, higher than
the ordinary, and shutting out the sky with their thickly inter-twined
branches, do not the stately shadows of the wood, the stillness of
the place, and the awful gloom of this doomed cavern then strike
you with the presence of a deity?
- Seneca

It’s hard to imagine what our forebears would think of this monstrosity. Is a skywalk responsible stewardship of this tiny bit of forest?

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what about it

September 30th, 2009
12:21 pm

Eric, Why don’t you get the facts before you enter a comment? Hardin construction made sure those families had Christmas presents and did not lack for food or shelter. They help create the fund and made a very sizable donation. I am also sure the company’s insurance companies have ponied up to the families also. Good things get done, but get no press.

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Chuck

September 30th, 2009
12:45 pm

Adam

My point is that it’s silly and wasteful to eliminate what little forest we have left in the city in order to build a garden. But if they wanted to expand the garden, they should have converted some of the park land already cleared….say, move some playground equipment or use the back of the big concert lawn. It may not have been as convenient, but would have been more in the spirit of “green expansion” and forest preservation.

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downsouth

September 30th, 2009
12:58 pm

i was once against the parking deck, but after visiting the gardens, i’m truly glad they built it.

i do hope there is a way from the deck onto Monroe though. that entrance on Piedmont is a nightmare at times. it would be best to give people an option to accessing the deck. the ffolkes on Park Dr. can’t really complain about park traffic since that’s been an entrance to the park for ages. don’t move there if you are bothered by cars coming and going to the huge park you chose to buy a home next to…

the new entrance from the deck into the garden is well designed. you walk up nice wide paths thru some “new” areas of the garden and pop out into the “old” garden, it was a great plan.

the skywalk will be a nice addition. just like they put boardwalks over fragile dunes and swamps (instead of having people tromp thru them), this skywalk will pass over the areas, leaving the underneath part undisturbed. it will be a great feeling to get the view from the treetops.

“clearcut the trees to Monroe”?? that’s a bit of a stretch. are you missing the cruising scene of the old woods? i’d rather seem some planned garden development than the weeds that are currenly part of that further back corner between the water treatment plant, Monroe, and Piedmont. Although the skaters sure will miss access to that awesome drainage ditch we used to skate back there.

Atlanta Local – born & bred

the naysayers should go visit before spouting off, i think you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

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Marcos

September 30th, 2009
1:02 pm

Adam you can’t be serious… they tore down all those old trees to make room for a garden? We lose hundreds of trees everyday in this city. I would expect the Botanical Gardens to be in the business of protecting them, not removing them to make way for… what?

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RK

September 30th, 2009
1:04 pm

Google has a great satellite view of the area. Maybe you should take a look. My god, I believe there really are some trees in the area. What you talkin bout, Willis?

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Thank You ABC!!

September 30th, 2009
1:06 pm

Naysayers step aside – the gears of capitalism have always been greased with the blood of the workers. I’m sure $100,000 was WAY more than enough to pay the medical bills and emergency services provided the day of the collapse. Now get out of the way whiners, we’ve got a walkway in the trees to build!!

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RK

September 30th, 2009
1:12 pm

what if you sent a check and stopped whining yourself?

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Mapyeti.com

September 30th, 2009
1:44 pm

I think this walkway is a wonderful idea; the garden teaches both preservation and appreciation to visitors. This walkway will be an unobtrusive investment to accomplish those purposes. National Geographic just named Atlanta one of the world’s top 50 places to visit because of its trees. We have many beautiful trees and a walkway to help people appreciate this beautiful natural asset I would think should be embraced.

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RK

September 30th, 2009
1:54 pm

Well-said. Now if the less articulate nut cases will vacate this site…….

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Eric

September 30th, 2009
2:15 pm

Are you kidding me? $100,000 split between 19 people is just over $5,000 each. I don’t think the wife and children of the dead worker or the other severally injured workers would trade their husband or father for $5,000…or for a few Christmas presents!! Ms. Gumbrecht, follow up this story with questions to the contractors responsible as to what they, or their insurance companies, have done