The good, the un-good and the ugly of Thrashers 2010-11 season

Over the course of the next day or so I’ll be performing my annual spring chore of converting this on-line Thrashers forum into one where the NHL playoffs are the primary focus of discussion. But before I do, and before the recently wrapped-up season fades into a distant memory, let’s take time to review the good, the un-good and the ugly of the Thrashers season.

I’ve paired the ‘good’ and the un-good’ down to just a few, but I’m sure many of you will have others to add to each column. As for the most aesthetically unappealing aspect of this past Thrashers season…well, I think there is only one clear item worthy of that honor.

We’ll begin with…

The Good

Fantastic First Half: Speaking of distant memories…there was the good start that we witnessed here in Thrasherville last fall. Given the way things eventually tuned out it’s somewhat hard to believe that at one time this team was at one time 19-11-5 and sitting a top the Southeast Division. In fact, after 43 games played they had amasses 50 points and still held a playoff spot in the east.

Upon returning to the lineup in late October, Ondrej Pavelec was stealing games for us had had a record of 13-8-4 with a .935 SV% and 2.11 GAA on January 1. On the other end of the ice, Dustin Byfuglien led the team’s offensive production with 15 goals and 25 assists and was a +6 after 41 games played. Five of his goals were game-winners.

What happened after that? Well, we’ll get to that later.

Seen Enough to Want to Stay: Two key players on the Thrashers roster did not need to wait until their contracts expired before choosing to re-up for another tour of duty here. First was Byfuglien, who signed an extension back in January. It only took him half a season to come to the decision. However it only took a week and a half for the newly acquired Mark Stuart to ink a three-year deal after coming over via a trade with Boston.

These two signings could go a long way in stopping the Thrashers revolving door from spinning off its axis. Too many times in the past we’ve seen quality talent dart for the exit upon the first chance to do so.

Now…what happened just a day after Buff re-signed here? Well, we’ll get to that as well.

Other Good Honorable Mentions: I’ll also throw in here the play of captain Andrew Ladd, who led the team in overall scoring with 29 goals and 59 points… defenseman Toby Enstrom and his team-leading 41 assists…Ondrej Pavelec who finished the year with a .2.73 GAA, .914 SV% and 4 shutouts despite his 21-23-9 overall record…and Bryan Little who was a most-deserving recipient of this year’s Dan Snyder Award for the unsung hero.

The Un-Good

Second Half Slide: As well as things went in the first half of the season, that’s just how un-good things got after New Years. Since that high-water mark on Dec. 20, they then went 15-23-6 including a disastrous 2-8-2 month of February.

Multiple times the Thrashers found themselves in tight games in the middle of the second period only to let one play or goal deteriorate into a 9-3 or 6-1 route. Players quit in the middle of games and coach Ramsay failed too often to provide the right in-game adjustments…or deal with the opposing coach’s adjustments.

Too often they failed to follow up a big win with another solid effort. After a 1-0 victory over Washington prior to the All Star break, they retuned to drop a stink bomb on the ice during a 4-1 loss to an Islander team hovering around the bottom of the conference standings. It lead to a 0-3-1 slide before they registered a dramatic 3-2 win over the Rangers. However, four straight loses and a 1-6-1 skid followed that.

Finally, after defeating the Flyers in overtime late in the season, they found themselves needing a win in Buffalo to pull within 2 points of a playoff spot…but they were soundly defeated 8-2.

In the end, after winning the first two games of the second half of the season, they slumped to a 12-21-6 mark, finishing with the 6th worst record in the NHL.

Zach Bogosian: There really is no way to sugar coat this…Zach was simply a train wreck in this his third NHL season. The 3rd overall pick in the 2008 draft finished the year at with an abysmal –27 rating, one that was unfortunately well deserved. After scoring 9 and 10 goals in his first two seasons, he produced but 5 in this most recent campaign.

His 17 points in 71 games played was 2 fewer than he produced in his rookie season, one that was limited to just 47 games due to injury.

To put it as kindly as I can, Bogosian looked lost for must of the year. Not only has he failed to improve on his play, he took a giant step backwards in his development.

Now, I do try to temper this with the fact that the kid has still yet to see his 21st birthday and since the departure of Mathieu Schneider hasn’t really had much of a mentor to help him out.

Hopefully the coaching staff can address Bogosian’s issues before next fall.

Power Outage: Atlanta scored a grand total of 223 goals this season, down from the 234 produced last year and 257 the year prior. It was only 7 goals better than the debacle of 2007-08.

The post-Kovalchuk era of the Thrashers history was predicated on a more balanced effort on the offensive side of the ice. However, for such a concept to work, you still need at least one or two players to score 30 or more goals.

Byfuglien and Ladd were the only ones to net 20 or more.

The Overall Record: If you would have ask me last fall what I would have thought about this team finishing with a 32-34-12 record, fourth in the SE and 12th overall in the east, I would have said it would classify as a failure. This is especially true given where they found themselves at the midpoint of the season.

A year ago John Anderson and his entire coaching staff were given pink slips after an 83-point showing primarily because GM Rick Dudley felt the team was good enough to compete for a playoff spot. The job didn’t get done and changes were made.

We now know that it will take a minimum of 5 years to make a return appearance to the postseason after the 4-game sweep in 2007. Following the epic FAIL of the following season, Mark Bradley ask then-GM Don Waddell if there was any hope that the Thrashers could rebound quickly. Waddell responded by pointing to the Flyers, who had turned a 56-point showing in 06-07 into a playoff effort the next year.

Given his Thrashers had finish with 76 points that year, Waddell pointed out, “So, we’re 20 points ahead of [the Flyers}”.

So how far are we ahead of them now, Don?

The Ugly

The Atlanta Spirit, LLC: Yes folks, the single most aesthetically challenged part of this 2010-11 Thrashers season is the cluster known as the AS, LLC, (Lies, Lawsuits and Contempt). They earn this honor because of the bomb they dropped on Thrasherville just one day after we learned Big Buff had signed a contract extension.

After years of sending Waddell out to deliver the lies about not wanting to sell the team, Michael Gearon finally came clean and admitted they had sought to do just that. Actually, that bit of 411 was revealed in the most-recent lawsuit involving the cluster-flop ownership group.

The Spirit Clowns took over this franchise 7 years ago when the team was experiencing their best days. They went into the lockout after a team-high 78-point season and came out after with a 90 and 97 point showing…and a playoff berth.

The next year on opening night, co-owner Rutherford Seydel took to the microphone and told a packed house in Philips Arena that he and his partners would do everything possible to bring a championship team to Atlanta.

Well, if you call running the team on a shoe-string budget, consistently icing a roster right at the league minimum in payroll, lying to the organization’s paying customers and alienating the fan base as “doing everything”…well then he’s followed through on that pledge quite nicely.

It’s been said you get out of something what you put in. Given what the Spiriteers have put into the team, it’s really now wonder why the Thrashers have continue to end up near the bottom of the standing over the last four years. And the second Thrasherville and the NHL is finally rid of the Great Octocluster, the better the franchise, its fan base and the league will be.

But until that day finally arrives, the AS, LLC will continue to be an ugly stain on this Thrashers organization.

127 comments Add your comment

Jason

April 11th, 2011
11:13 am

Jason

April 11th, 2011
11:16 am

Maybe Bogosian should swap numbers with Thorburn and put a – in front of it for next year.

ATLREP

April 11th, 2011
11:18 am

LONG LIVE THE ATLANTA THRASHERS!

Smoothie

April 11th, 2011
11:20 am

Hoof Arted

April 11th, 2011
11:26 am

I will add to the “un-good” list Chris Mason and his .892 sv% and 3.39 GAA performance.

Smoothie

April 11th, 2011
11:31 am

“Forwards are forwards, they are not defenseman.”

Quote of the day! Enough of these stupid, ill-concocted “up tempo” systems that rely on forwards to skate backwards. There’s a reason forwards play forward and D-men (good ones) play defense. And Buff is just talented enough to play defense. But I’d rather he play forward, and play with motivation on every shift. Bogosian is a forward trapped in a D-man’s fantasy. He’s not ever going to be a top 2 defenseman unless he takes a long, deep swim in “Lake You” to find himself and come to the realization that he needs to focus on playing defense and learning how to read the game, and not get fixated on the puck.

ex-ex-STH – congrats, nailing that contest on the # with the two tiebreakers is quite impressive. Would you like to submit my four picks for the US Open so I can move up in my Majors Pool this summer??

Great day yesterday despite the horrific game we were treated to by Chris Mason. Yikes Almighty! What is wrong with this guy? He’s the new Mike Dunham. I actually agree with stendek that he should be called Marshmallow Mason for I have never seen so many soft goals allowed by a supposedly above average, quality tender. Trade his butt and bring back Moose for a 1-year deal to give Pasquale another year to get ready as Pavelec’s eventual back-up.

One final thing: Klingberg is the real deal. You can just tell. He was shafted in Frolunda and then treated like a peasant in Chicago. He’s going to be a freakin’ beast and I would hate to be a D-man in the Southeast once that 6′3″ animal puts another 20 15-20 lbs on his scrawny frame. He’s not afraid of anything and he definitely seems to fint the profile of a “miserable SOB” that Dudley seems to love. Love Boultsy but he should be no more than a 13th depth forward, if not 14th as Stapleton deserves a chance to stay on this roster as well for added depth. But Klingberg, Cormier and Burmi must take the next step. Lucky for them, they are forwards and they will develop faster than Bogey.

Ziltartegh

April 11th, 2011
11:32 am

Lets just think for a minute that we had 2 players that had 20 or more goals, no player got 30. Our highest points total for a player was 59pts.

As soon as Buff signed his payday contract he took the country club mindset that so many players come to atlanta for. He has his cup, now his big contract, he can coast.

Antropov is doing it as well.

For those who think we are only a couple players away from being a playoff team, I have to disagree, we are a long way from being a plyoff team.

Smoothie

April 11th, 2011
11:33 am

Oh for goodness sake’s, trapped again!! I feel like Charlie Brown.

Such is the plight of a battered and beaten (and scarred) Thrashers fan. Someone pass the whisky.

ZAvalanche

April 11th, 2011
11:37 am

Nice post Blog Master. Love it as always.

RL and WBF, thanks for your sentiments on Foote, he is one of the only old school players left and will be sorely missed. Gotta love a D-man who doesn’t care if he scores or not. Class Act if there was ever one.

Can’t wait for the playoffs! Please, somebody take out Vancouver……..

Red Light

April 11th, 2011
11:41 am

The good…

Burmistrov got 74 games of NHL experience. Byfuglien’s performance through Jan. 2. Thorburn’s and Hainsey’s consistent efforts throughout the season and both played in all 82 games. Bryan Little’s + 11 rating. The acquisition of Blake Wheeler. Eric Boulton’s hat-trick. Pavelec’s four shutouts. Blocked shots. R. Stroz’s vuvuzela!

The Un-Good

Antropov’s 26 fewer points and -30 differential in plus/minus rating from last season. Cormier’s broken foot and concussion. Slater’s injury. Team’s face-off percentage. Still no playmaking center on the roster. The PK unit. Goals against average. 32.9 percent of all games were decided in OT/Shootout. Five OT losses when leading after 2 periods and nine OT losses after the team had scored first in the game. EIGHT in-division OT/SO losses, three more than any other team in the league.

The Ugly…

The salary budget. Professional and amateur scouting. Attendance. Sage can take over from here…

ThrashDawg

April 11th, 2011
11:42 am

I will have to agree the Bogosian deserves to be on the list of ungood but should he really be the only one that is singled out? I agree with Z, Buff just mailed it in the second half and Pavalec was very inconsistent the second half as well. Hainsey was not worth the money we are paid him and Antropov was just flat out slow all year. Kane seemed to disappear alot this year as well. Heck, the only guys that busted their butts all year was Ladd, Little and Enstrom.

Steve

April 11th, 2011
11:42 am

Has Ladd be signed long term or has he changed his mind and decided not to resign?

Thrashers

April 11th, 2011
11:47 am

Fan of the Year!!!!????? Sage of Blueland. Don Wadell has your plaque.

Red Light

April 11th, 2011
11:48 am

Hate to disagree ThrashDawg, but Hainsey’s +3 rating and overall performance was a bright spot for this team, and you can never, ever question Thorburn’s efforts.

Steve

April 11th, 2011
11:49 am

I have one for the bad. What ever happened to all the stuff they USED to have in the fan area on the 2nd level? It sucks now!!!!

Rawhide

April 11th, 2011
11:55 am

I will have to agree the Bogosian deserves to be on the list of ungood but should he really be the only one that is singled out?

ThrashDawg – Your point is valid…there was a lot of “un-good” to go around. But Z-Bo’s efforts stood out heads and shoulders above the rest IMHO.

Has Ladd be signed long term or has he changed his mind and decided not to resign?

Steve – Not yet. Personally I think he decided to finalize the deal after the season. It may turn out to be a wise decision given his performance.

Hainsey’s +3 rating and overall performance was a bright spot for this team, and you can never, ever question Thorburn’s efforts

Red Light – Agreed.

I will add to the “un-good” list Chris Mason and his .892 sv% and 3.39 GAA performance.

Hoof Arted – Agreed as well.

Smoothie – #POMPOM

Smoothie

April 11th, 2011
11:56 am

I predict Ladd will sign his new deal before the end of next week if not this week once all of the end of season “house-cleaning” is done.

5 years for a shade over $20 M. He upped the ante by waiting and his near-30 goal performance has earned him that extra $500 k per season.

DWTOO

April 11th, 2011
11:56 am

The good – Mangomosas and LandShark torpedos at the Beach Party Tailgate.

The bad – running out of beer at the end of the first period.

The ugly – Having to enter the building and having to watch the second period. Didn’t stick around to watch the third.

The final two home games were absoltuely disgusting.

Red Light

April 11th, 2011
11:56 am

Add to Ugly… 29 regulation wins and -46 in goal differential.

World Be Free

April 11th, 2011
12:01 pm

I hate the thought of giving up on Bogosian, but frankly I think he’s too far gone to correct, at least in a Thrasher uniform. He made a play yesterday that was frightening. Killing a penalty with his face to the boards behind our net, Bogosian backhanded the puck right into our slot. Pens players were so startled they missed the “gift pass”.

The kid’s confidence is totally gone and it’s not his fault, it is the team’s fault for rushing him to the NHL before he was ready. His game lacks the kind of maturity required at this level, both offensively and defensively. You won’t fix him by demoting him to the 3rd pairing, he needs to be moved while he still has some real value for assets that can help us today.

This team needs to develop a defensive posture to support our backliners. Too many leads squandered by poor team defensive play.

Rawhide

April 11th, 2011
12:03 pm

Red Light – Making the 29 regulations wins even that much more ‘un-good’ is that only 4 were registered after the All Star break.

World Be Free

April 11th, 2011
12:07 pm

Zavs-”if” and I say if Bogosian is going to stay in Atlanta, won’t it be a good idea for Zach to mirror the approach of Adam Foote? Foote was a basic defenseman, he played a strong defensive game and rarley cared about scoring goals. He was a shut down defenseman, played the basics. Zach’s only hope is to do the same moving forward-just like Luke Schenn is doing in Tronna. Schenn has flown by Bogosian in maturity.

World Be Free

April 11th, 2011
12:12 pm

I was a toss in a “good” honorable mention to Blake Wheeler.

Wheeler came to Atlanta with a reputation of being a little soft for his 6′5″ size, but I thought he played real well in a Thrasher uniform. That trade will look real good if he resigns a 3-4 year deal.

Player to be named later

April 11th, 2011
12:14 pm

ASG wonders why it has attendence problems when it’s hockey team fails to make the playoffs in 10 out of 11 seasons? I think that says it all friends.

hockeygoon79

April 11th, 2011
12:14 pm

Holy crap. Waddell DID say the Thrashers were “20 points ahead” of Philly back then. I have read that here many times but I’ve never seen where it was actually quoted.

What a tool.

World Be Free

April 11th, 2011
12:15 pm

Sabres made the playoffs after being in 30th place on November 1st.

ThrashDawg

April 11th, 2011
12:17 pm

Red Light I guess my beef with Hainsey is the lack of offense from an offensive defenseman and especially considering the money we are paying him and him being a veteran. I agree with Thorburn and others…just mentioned the ones that came to mind right off. I really like the way young Burmi played as well.

World Be Free

April 11th, 2011
12:28 pm

The best part about Hainsey is that he is playing within his game. The fact that we had to overpay him to come here is a symptom of the franchise.

J-man

April 11th, 2011
12:29 pm

Dudley needs to spend some of his off season thinking seriously about Bogosian. If the organization is going to get serious about salvaging his career than continuing down this same path of failure is not an option. If they have to hire another coach specifically to fix what’s wrong with him, then do it. If they are not going to make any changes in the coaching then maybe it’s just best to trade him for something of real value and let him become another organization’s problem.

Stan Drulia

April 11th, 2011
12:34 pm

The main thing that is going to stick in my memory about this horrible season was when Don Waddell had the nerve to call out Atlanta fans for not noticing that we had a playoff bound team. This was after the team played well (admittedly – extremely well) for all of TWO MONTHS! My jaw almost hit the floor when I read his comments. Something to the effect of “the fans have been demanding a playoff quality team and now they have one – so why aren’t they coming out to games?”… It is like pulling teeth right now for me to type this comment without using expletives that would make George Carlin blush. For Waddell to have the audacity to take a jab at us… a fanbase that has more or less stood by him for over a decade waiting for a team that could at the very least compete in this league – and for him to act like he had all-of-a-sudden fixed all the teams problems… proven by a TWO MONTH winning streak?!?! Waddell should be ashamed of himself for being a liar first and foremost – but he should be HORRIBLY ashamed of himself for throwing us – the fans – under the bus.

And then… just as I am about to boil over about this situation – I go to TSN.com this morning only to run across a headline story about Waddell stating that he and ownership really do want to keep the team in Atlanta. Don – I have as much faith in you and your word as I do in Santa Claus. Period.

Relieved that this season if finally over. Tired of worrying about the future (if any) or the Thrashers in our fine city. Tired of Don Waddell and the joke that is the Atlanta Spirit. Tired of Sage of Bluesland and LAC. Tired of all of it.

And even with all of this negativity, I already know that come June or July I will chomping at the bit for the season to get underway, and will be cheering in the stands just as loud as I have since the first season and however many more may come.

World Be Free

April 11th, 2011
12:36 pm

Nobody mentioned how much this team may have actually missed Jim Slater after his concussion. You think?

Gonna be fun seeing where Brad Richards ends up on July 1st.

Russian

April 11th, 2011
12:44 pm

**to WBF**
“Gonna be fun seeing where Brad Richards ends up on July 1st.”

NOT HERE. :-(

Red Light

April 11th, 2011
12:49 pm

World Be Free…

The new buzz-word in the NHL is “back pressure” and only a few forwards grasped that concept here on a regular basis throughout the season. Ladd, Little, Thorburn and Burmistrov. That also is a sign of being committed to the team concept IMO.

Red Light

April 11th, 2011
12:59 pm

Any guesses which NHL team gets new owners first?
Atlanta
Dallas
St. Louis
Toronto

Thrashers27

April 11th, 2011
1:04 pm

Smoothie,

You’re so right about Mason. His performance yesterday was pathetic! Can’t remember who’s goal it was, but he stood tall, hugging the post and as the shot was released he didn’t even flinch. He just let it go between his skates. I’m pretty sure he had given up at that point. If that’s the case then I don’t want to see him back here next season. We want competitors, not quitters!!!

As for the rest of the sorry lot…bring back Thorburn, Wheeler, Little, Ladd, Kane, Buff, Toby and Stuart. These are the players that showed heart and skill. There are a few players on this roster that still need time to develop and that is acceptable, but it should be done in Chicago, or in juniors, not in the NHL. To the remainder of the team who showed a complete lack of “heart” I offer you these words from the all wise and all knowing “Beavis”"…thank you drive through.”

AtlFlamesFan

April 11th, 2011
1:23 pm

Anyone know why Schremp did not dress yesterday?

EA

April 11th, 2011
1:24 pm

The Moose would most likely accept the one year deal. The NJ blog is quoting him as saying he will not live away from his family next year. Since they live here, that would be an easy solution.

The good for me is Ladd, Little, Enstrom and Atanta Thrasher fans. The un-good is the boycott of fans to the games even though I understand why as well as the second half of the season for Pavs and Buff in particular. I know they have it in them to play like the first half of the season. Mason has been a bust this year.

BMF

April 11th, 2011
1:24 pm

I made a post on Rawhide’s previous blog right before this one started up, here goes, but this applies more to this subject:

Haven’t posted in a while but some good dialogue on this blog so i’ve got some thoughts about the just-concluded season, and for the future:

Alright, I’m going to play fantasy GM here. Here’s my ’10-’11 season evaluation, player by player:

Antropov: I expected more, you’re just not 100% healthy yet. Hopefully you will get your speed back, and soon. 2 more seasons on your contract.
Kane: Good season, getting better. Breakout player next year. 30+ goals, point-per-game player next season
Little: Excellent season, and your contract makes you a bargain. Hopefully 30 goals next season.
Ladd: can’t ask for much more. Please sign your extension offer already.
Burmistrov: should have been in minors this year. Not ready. Hope you grow up fast.
Slater: can’t wait to see you again next season. We missed you.
Cormier: I want to see a full healthy year next season. You should be one of our most physical players, we need that from you.
Thorburn: Bang for the buck, you are an excellent NHL player and we’re happy to have you for 3 more seasons.
Boulton: Love all that you do, hang around as a coach but I think your playing days are done.
Stewart: Disappointing. You are fast and talented, you should be better, much better. Not sure we sign you as an RFA or not…
Wheeler: Please stay. Really like your game, stick around.
Dvorak: Would like to see you for a full season too, stick around. Good all-around player.
Stapleton: Did some decent things out there, but you’re organizational depth, nothing more. Nice shootout goal earlier in the year.
Schremp: don’t know…did some good things…we’ll see if you make the team next year…
Maxwell: see above
Hainsey: solid as always, good season
Enstrom: very solid, but you tailed off down the stretch
Oduya: played well, not sure we’ll keep you after next season though, you might cost too much, plus with what we’ll be paying Buff…
Buff: Good season, not awesome, but I’m thrilled you signed for 5 years. You should be a winger next season.
Bogosian: Disappointing. You’re regressing. Next season is SOGOTP time. Prove me wrong…
Meyer: Bye
Stuart: I like your game, happy you signed to stay here.
Mason: expected a little better from you but overall I’m not disappointed. Tighten it up next year though please.
Pavelec: come on man, step up. You want this gig permanently or not?

Going into the 2011-2012 season, we have 16 guaranteed contracts, totaling 35.5M. Of our RFA’s, i only see 3 slam dunk contracts, and i’m guessing what they will sign for. I’m going to predict we sign Ladd (5M), Wheeler (3M), and Bogosian (1M), that’s another 9M, brings us to 44.5M, and assuming a 57M cap next season, that leaves us with 12.M or so in cap space, as of today. This might go down if we resign any of these guys: Stewart, Schremp, Maxwell, Dvorak, none of which would break the bank. I preduct Maxwell and Dvorak, maybe combined 2.5M-3M will keep both of them here, bringing us to about 9.5-10M in cap space.

The BIG IF’s are resigning Ladd and Wheeler, and they both need to stay. But assuming we can get deals done for them, what can we do next to improve this team? I ask this from a player-personnel context, not “we could use new owners” context. We all know that and it’s a dead horse on these boards. Depending on what our budget is for next year, I see our biggest trade chips being our 1st rd pick in this coming draft, Johnny Oduya, Hainsey (pricey D-man but if a top-team gets desperate for a solid blueliner, Duds wouldn’t mind trading his salary), and Antropov (same deal with his salary), and finally, our biggest trade asset would be our unused cap space.

I haven’t looked too hard at this season’s playoff teams, from a cap perspective, but as with every year, some team will have to do a Chicago-style cap purge before next season. Hopefully Duds has some ideas as to what players can be poached off some of these playoff team rosters.

That’s all I got for now. Just want to see some ideas.

EA

April 11th, 2011
1:26 pm

AtlFlamesFan-Shremp had a headache. Precaution for a concussion. He came out and signed autographs after the game. Nice guy.

World Be Free

April 11th, 2011
1:33 pm

Russian-yeah it will NOT be here, but interesting to see if he goes to New York.

Red Light-the guys who do not buy in need to be the first ones to go. Burmie is 18-he was one of our best 2-way forward this season.

AtlFlamesFan

April 11th, 2011
1:33 pm

EA

April 11th, 2011
1:34 pm

Stan D. Great comments!

AtlFlamesFan

April 11th, 2011
1:36 pm

Duds could fix his biggest screw-up by getting the Moose back here next year. Mason had too many bad games, and even in games that he didn’t stink, he would let in a softie (that 4th goal yesterday comes to mind).

Russian

April 11th, 2011
1:47 pm

I like Moose also, but he will be 38 at May this year. I know Hashek played until 40 years old and playing now in KHL. Do not be very optimist about Moose. Also every player has a bad year. I think Mason will stay and work his contract.

Smoothie

April 11th, 2011
1:59 pm

Hedberg is in the best shape of his life. I wouldn’t count on him declining just yet. Some goalies who don’t get overworked in their 20’s end up having lots of longevity into their 40’s (see Roloson).

BTW, anyone else thinking upset for PIT, DET and Philly? I think Chicago will get obliterated this year by VAN, not enough depth.

Joe Friday

April 11th, 2011
2:27 pm

Hawks own the Couv . . . time to send them to early tee times, again!

Alan R.

April 11th, 2011
2:29 pm

Red Light:

My list, in order, for “new owners”

1. Toronto
2. Atlanta
3. St. Louis
4. Dallas

What, you might ask, could possibly hold up a sale in Dallas? I’m glad you asked. http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2011/03/kpmg_sued_for_giving_tom_hicks_clean_audit_a_year_before_525-million_loan_default.php

EA

April 11th, 2011
2:40 pm

I agree 100 percent agree that Moose is in fantastic shape. He has an excellent save percentage. He also won the Players Player award in NJ this year. He is a great mentor. Roloson is 41 and Tampa has their playoff hopes riding on him. Mason will probably return. If he does, I hope he and the some of the defensemen in front of him improve greatly.

Thrashy Thrashy

April 11th, 2011
2:47 pm

It’s hard to play the kind of system Rammer wants to play with a shoestring budget. You’ve got to have responsible vets in their prime to really make it work. As we all know, Rammer doesn’t have that.

Now, if you’re someone who wants to get rid of Rammer, you have to realize that no head coach with a strong resume will want to come here until he knows the team’s future is secure. Rammer has waited his whole life to be a head coach. He has been saddled with a roster that requires near-maximum effort to achieve a postseason berth. Based on what we saw this season, Rammer isn’t capable of goading or prodding these players enough to get 100% out of them every game. For the life of me, I can’t believe that any other coach would be able to pull that off.

So, uh, basically, um, I’m just saying that this organization is a strong coach repellant and a certified coach-killer. It’s all due to the ownership, of course. They set the tone.

Here’s the tone: SUCKITUDE

Until those buffoons are gone, we ain’t goin’ nowhere.

Sage of Bluesland

April 11th, 2011
3:00 pm

“….Relieved that this season if finally over. Tired of worrying about the future (if any) or the Thrashers in our fine city. Tired of Don Waddell and the joke that is the Atlanta Spirit. Tired of Sage of Bluesland and LAC. Tired of all of it….”

Maybe, Stan, if you had LISTENED to yours-truly a little earlier, you wouldn’t be feeling so sheepish now?

Too bad on that.

Oh well, I can’t say I didn’t tell you so…many, many times. For the sheep to suddenly awaken in utter disbelief of the pitiful plight of this abomination of a franchise always provides me a good laugh!!! Please don’t stop the posting and the dweaming!!!

Whoever subsidizes this incompetence shouldn’t complain at all–they actually DESERVE it. Yes, you read that correctly.

The subsidizers are–and have been–just as much of a problem now as Don Waddell.

Ward

April 11th, 2011
3:19 pm

My kids and I attend between 10-14 games per season and drive 150 miles round trip each game. Calculate the cost for five per. We are fans. The Thrashers need new owners. Check what happened in Buffalo after new ownership “took” ownership. We will support the Thrashers because we love hockey and, unlike some Atlanta “transplants cheering for any jersey arriving in town, we really enjoy our hometown team. Now that the body of work called the 34-36-12 season is on the books we have to conclude we could not be a playoff team after giving up all those goals. We will be there in fall. Better defense needs to be there. New owner(s) are critically needed. Captain Ladd needs to get the new season going by asking fans to give up the “Knights” tribute during our National Anthem. Nothing that interruption represents is patriotic nor sensable to our players. P.S. while we are upgrading, how about ditching big sreening our local hero who chugs a full beer to “fire up” the crowd late in a game. My kids wonder about that one, as do I.

Mubarak

April 11th, 2011
3:36 pm

7 regulation wins in last 50 games.

SomaAtl95

April 11th, 2011
3:36 pm

Why does it feel like we are listening to a broken record?
Why does it feel like we are listening to a broken record?
Why does it feel like we are listening to a broken record?
Why does it feel like we are listening to a broken record?

Joe Friday

April 11th, 2011
3:45 pm

“Based on what we saw this season, Rammer isn’t capable of goading or prodding these players enough to get 100% out of them every game. For the life of me, I can’t believe that any other coach would be able to pull that off.”

With all due respect, Thrashy, Hogwash.

If anyone still suffers under the delusion that Ramsay wasn’t problem #1A this year (after the owners), please look no further than the game yesterday against the Pens. They sat their #1 goalie, they sat Staal, they’ve been without Malkin and Crosby for quite some time.

That lineup the Pens iced yesterday was no better, in fact, it was inferior on paper, to the lineup we iced. Yet they dominated us, they were in our crease at will, and they skated their system.

So you’re telling me Ramsay would take that Pens lineup yesterday and have them skate the same? Utter tripe. Ramsay preaches patience, Ramsay preaches no hitting, Ramsay preaches tripe . . . and the results show.

Bylsma should get coach of the year for taking that lineup, while losing two of the premier players in the league because he coaches a system that works, and he motivated his players to play a system that works, he raises their level of play, he puts them in positions to win, he places them in front of the net, and they skate hard to the crease and bang and they have continued winning.

Look no further than yesterday’s debacle (once again) to see how badly we have been outcoached . . .

KLS1

April 11th, 2011
4:12 pm

The other bad…TV’s in hawk walk. I was eating a hotdog and couldn’t even see the game on the screen of the old tube sets….in Philips arena!

You think we’re upset with ownership, Philips must be ready to commit suicide for the pact they signed. So upset that they are actually scaring off potential buyers of their electronics by not updating the sets in the arena.

This is perfect microcosm of how this ownership group treats its fans, sponsors, etc…you can complain but we already got your $, sucka!

Good = how we played against the leagues best teams.

Eddie Haskell

April 11th, 2011
4:13 pm

“P.S. while we are upgrading, how about ditching big sreening our local hero who chugs a full beer to “fire up” the crowd late in a game. My kids wonder about that one, as do I.”

Ward, you and June need to make Wally and The Beaver turn their heads when that is on the big screen. That should fix it!

Michael B. Shapiro

April 11th, 2011
4:16 pm

The ugly:

the number of back-to-back goals given up in less than 5 minutes, less than 3 minutes, less than 2 minutes, less than one freakin’ minute

the failure of Coach to adjust mid-season when other teams had our number

the failure of Coach to adjust mid-game at any time during the season

the failure of Duds to get us more scoring in December, January….mid-way into February…when it was obvious to all of us who post here that we needed it badly

the fact that the ASG still owns the team

the failure of ANYONE to coach Bogo when he so clearly needs it

Johnny O’s +/-

Anthony Stewart

KLS1

April 11th, 2011
4:18 pm

Almost forgot the ugly = Rammers suits and ties, my god. If you’re gonna dress that bad you better win.

Sage of Bluesland

April 11th, 2011
4:26 pm

Joe-Bob-Friday-Revisionist-Historian apparently believes that silk purses can indeed be made of sows’ ears….

(and, yes, that sounds just like a Geico commercial)

Don’t worry, he’ll let us know what we already knew at some point in the future…

George Zimmer

April 11th, 2011
4:37 pm

KLS1 is absolutely right. The Thrashers record is tied to Ramsay’s suits and ties.

Coach Ramsay needs to exude professionalism behind the bench. Please send him to our Men’s Wearhouse Duluth location, and please tell him: “You’re going to like the way you look, I guarantee it.”

james c.

April 11th, 2011
4:40 pm

If there is any poetic justice in the sports world the people of Atlanta will get a new ownership group that will keep the Thrashers in town finally allowing this franchise to achieve some of the hints of promise it has shown over the past few seasons.Philips Arena will be full if this team can turn itself around.

R. Stroz

April 11th, 2011
4:40 pm

Under the ugly category, here is an example of the “tripe” promulgated by the Thrasher organization.

http://bluelandblog.com/2011/03/24/is-hitting-overrated/

When a team is “pitched” as a physical team by the slogan “A Brutally Good Time”, most would expect a physical style of play, the type of play which is ingrained in the minds of those of us who watched the Atlanta Flames.

Instead, the Thrashers play a “timid” style while pitching a “physical” style. To make matters worse, one of the organizations mouthpieces actually defends, if not promotes, this style of play which is completely disconnected from the “marketing” slogan.

However, in light of the Thrashers organization’s history of saying one thing and doing another, this type of “bait and switch” combined with a spurious explanation is to be expected.

World Be Free

April 11th, 2011
4:48 pm

Sage-I hate to say this dude but you subsidize the incompetence; every time you post on a blog or watch a game (which you admitted you do on occasion) you are subsidizing the Atlanta Thrashers. Maybe you are not giving the team money, but in essence you are giving them something more valuable, your time. With every visit here you give them something you can never get back.

There’s nothing wrong with it, but rest assured you are subsidizing this team in some form.

World Be Free

April 11th, 2011
4:50 pm

Pittsburgh also brings up players that understand what’s expected of them at the NHL level-same system. Nothing will change here until we get rid of Chicago and get some synergy between the minors and the parent club.

SomaAtl95

April 11th, 2011
4:54 pm

WBF – a sheep in wolves clothing?

Joe Friday

April 11th, 2011
5:00 pm

stroz, well, it was brutal most of the time!

Buf used to absolutely blow up people when he played for the Hawks, go find the compilation of his hits on YouTube. Under Ramsay, some of you guys starting calling him Puf. That was not his doing, he played balls to the wall for the Hawks, he went toe to toe with Pronger in the Finals last year and knocked Pronger silly a couple times. Well, he probably got his trophy today from Coach Ramsay, so there’s that!

I bet Buf is ready to just coast here. You should have seen him making eyes on the two skanks in the 2nd row of the clubs on Friday night. At least he skated the whole line of guys last night and shook hands with all of them, I’m sure he’s a good dude in the locker room.

Speaking of things that were fugly, was anyone else as disturbed as I by the sight of Stewart hugging and humping our goalie like a dog in heat after our wins?

LAC

April 11th, 2011
5:02 pm

Gee Sage aren’t you so glad “stan drulia” can’t stand us ????

Where is all this negative stuff we have spoken about”stan”

I stayed on course about players and the season this season, not always harping
on worthless waddell and The Cluster owners… You been reading that ? Or can you not understand what we,Sage and myself, are saying ? Like Sage says, people like YOU “sta” give ALL real hockey fans in Atlanta a bad name.

Trade zach for something at this point !!!!!! PLEASE ! Postma next season on Right Defense !!!!!

Got that one “stan” ????

Smoothie

April 11th, 2011
5:04 pm

When Pavelec slung his stick to center ice out of frustration, he was aiming for where Bogosian was supposed to be, but as usual, Bogey was out of position!!

Just. Had. To. Do. It.

Smoothie

April 11th, 2011
5:09 pm

Sage is certainly not “subsidizing” my intelligence with his drivel today. Same song, different verse. Much like the Thrashers.

Yada yada yada…FART.

hockeyguru

April 11th, 2011
5:09 pm

Byfuglien did not take the “country club route” He had a leg injury and a wrist injury in January, and played injured. He has played hard every game. And his points total and goals are remarkable for a defenseman–he and Ladd were among the scarce bright spots this season.

EA

April 11th, 2011
5:19 pm

Ramsay had a reputation for his bad ties. Maybe he likes to be know for them.

ben

April 11th, 2011
5:26 pm

Byfuglien was a bright spot with Ladd. I hope this team’s here in October. Atlanta was never given a big chance. I love my hockey.

World Be Free

April 11th, 2011
5:41 pm

Soma-I guess, being here is caring in some way. We all care what happens to some extent or we would not be here. I have no issue with it.

Shannon

April 11th, 2011
5:51 pm

The same goes for Enstrom. He did not slide. He played injured.

alf

April 11th, 2011
6:04 pm

The team didnt slide, everyone was injured. Wadell really was a good gm, he was just injured for 10 seasons, all of our coaches were coaching with injuries

Red Light

April 11th, 2011
6:05 pm

Bad news for Mike Knuble fans. He re-signed for another year in Washington for $2 million.

glovesave29

April 11th, 2011
6:14 pm

Red Light

April 11th, 2011
6:24 pm

Bill: Is this the excuse blog? I didn’t think that was its intent. By while we’re at it…those darn refs!

Gwinnett Fred

April 11th, 2011
6:25 pm

The Good: The Detroit game. Glad that was one I went to.

The Bad: Coaching staff – one constant thru this blog keeps referring to the young ages of the players. If you are going to have such a young team, you better have a staff ready to “coach them up” and the only thing I saw along those lines this year was the work done with Pavs.

The Ugly: I just don’t see an end to this (and I’m being kind here) mediocrity.

Anyway, glad to see so many posts. I have no doubts that the fans have interest in the Thrashers, but do have concerns that the Thrashers don’t have much interest in the fans!

RAWHIDE: Thanks for a season of great reading!!!

Brendan

April 11th, 2011
6:32 pm

Well, I went to more games this year than the last two seasons, combined. So, I did my share of subsidizing. Looking back on it, I probably would have been better off getting a package of some sort, but I enjoy changing seats and views at the Bulb.

Re: Don Waddell, I don’t think he’s in a position to criticize anyone or anything. Back in 1998, he was hired to grow the sport of hockey throughout the entire State of Georgia, with a high concentration in the Atlanta metro area. So, how many ice rinks were built in that time? Stop. I can’t lay blame for the lack of sheets of ice in the greater metropolitan area, and throughout the State, solely at the feet of Don Waddell. That’s utterly unfair. But I can say … he didn’t do his job, and he GLEEFULLY took a substantive paycheck to remain on as GM, through all of the years of playoff futility, but this one. Don Waddell is not a man who is economically challenged. He has all the money that he could ever need to spend in one lifetime.

William Hung can believe that he’s a good singer, so long as people pay him for his services. Normally, a GM gets fired for not making money for his owners, in the form of 100% pure profits derived from playoff games. That didn’t happen here. These owners were all about collecting the revenue-sharing dollars and fielding league-minimum budgets, to reduce their losses along the way. Sickening, isn’t it?

But Waddell must shoulder his portion of the blame. Hockey is not where it should be today, and isn’t EVEN CLOSE to the level it was a DECADE ago, when the team soldout 38 of 41 home games, in support of the franchise, while setting an NHL attendance record for an expansion club.

Remember those days? Before we knew we had ‘caretaker’ ownership, and no accountability for performance. In Atlanta, no GM in any of the sports … can simply count on ‘blind support’ of their team. They’ve got to produce. And there it is. That’s not exactly rocket science, but every owner has to ‘understand their market.’

The NHL shoulders some blame, too. They have yet to properly vet an ownership entity for the Atlanta market. And really, that’s a pretty big thing to just gloss over. Atlanta isn’t a traditional hockey market. And even in those traditional hockey markets, fans in Boston, and Philly and Chicago and Pittsburgh would shy away … when their teams were stinkin’ up the joint. So, especially, owners in Atlanta had to know and understand their BURDEN. The fact that hockey isn’t DEAD, shows demonstrably, just how well the sport is supported. Imagine what it could be like if the team were a contender?

R. Stroz

April 11th, 2011
6:40 pm

The good: Evander Kane

1) His speed improved greatly

2) By the end of the season, he even learned how to pass the puck

If Evander can improve his “sniper” skills, he will become one of the best players in the NHL.

SA

April 11th, 2011
6:49 pm

No one is providing excuses for the team, DW, the GM, coach or the refs. If a player is playing injured, he deserves to be defended to a degree. Perhaps that falls under the “good” category and not the excuse category. The “ungood” is those who have no excuse for a poor performance.

World Be Free

April 11th, 2011
7:26 pm

Red Light-saw that about Knuble, give the Caps credit for not letting him hit the market. In fact, you can consider his signing before playoffs to be a slight boost for Washington. Knubes is well respected in the Capitals locker room–good move by McPhee.

litz

April 11th, 2011
8:03 pm

re Kane : “2) By the end of the season, he even learned how to pass the puck”

Those cross rink passes to a streaking Stapleton (who, by his own, certainly broke out 2nd half of the season) were things of beauty.

I think only 2 or 3 of them went in, but there were far more chances setup via that play, for sure.

Cliff Fletcher

April 11th, 2011
8:42 pm

stan drulia///

how could i have ever have doubted you?
buy you a beer next season.

Tom

April 11th, 2011
9:14 pm

Question: Did Kane ever get a wrap around goal?

Towards the end of the season he started figuring out that he could make the move to the inside and his game started to blossom. Next year I expect the fake to the boards and then shooting the seam to be Kane’s move.

Brendan

April 11th, 2011
9:37 pm

Red Light, thank you for your Draft lottery update, and for providing the percentages for each team to win it, from the previous blog.

Brendan

April 11th, 2011
9:48 pm

Rawhide, is it “too late” to declare a favorite team, or teams, to follow out West, and to adopt a team in the East? Before these playoffs start, it’s no secret that I would like to see the Nashville Predators finally get a playoff series win. They have a tough one with Anaheim, to start out. I also have my eye on Los Angeles, hoping they can have some playoff success. San Jose won’t be an easy series, at all. But, my gosh, the Coyotes haven’t won a playoff series since 1987. I gotta root for them.

In the East … my only team is gone. And Carolina is gone now, too. Don’t know if I can find myself rooting for the Lightning. I have long followed the Washington Capitals, and I think it would be great for the SE Division, and for Washington, to finally get their 1st Cup. We have quite a few Sabres fans on the blog, so … it’d be nice to see them have some success, and keep the blog lively throughout the playoffs.
And, for Red Light, I guess I can root for the Rangers to win a game or two. Still mad at them for 2007, however.

Curly

April 11th, 2011
10:24 pm

The Good: Brian Little’s goal against the Rangers makes #10 on NHL on the Fly plays of the year. BURMI’s GOAL against the Capitals Makes #1!!!!

The Bad: The poor defensive play of Bogosian and Hainsey.

The Ugly: Thorburn’s Hair!

Alan R.

April 11th, 2011
10:28 pm

When a team is “pitched” as a physical team by the slogan “A Brutally Good Time”, most would expect a physical style of play, the type of play which is ingrained in the minds of those of us who watched the Atlanta Flames.

Or the Red Wings of the 90s. ;)

Vladimir Konstantinov: The Big Red Monster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clbyBCA4Tbs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CX9bLdUqM8

I loved watching this guy play. He was definitely removed from the hockey world far too soon.

Alan R.

April 11th, 2011
10:29 pm

Wonder what flagged that comment for moderation? Is two links now too many? *scratches head*

Brendan

April 11th, 2011
10:55 pm

Thinking back on the best and worst goals of the season, definitely, I think of Burmistrov, both times. His goal against the Caps was amazing. Truly. But then, I can’t remember if it was the Penguins or what, but early in the season, Burmi was completely outmuscled and undressed in front of the next, while Pavelec was taken to school. We looked like a high school team on that play. It was the worst image of the season, for me. It was as bad of a play as I was apt to see all year.

Puck Like A Porn Star

April 11th, 2011
11:35 pm

Even NPR is talking about the Thrashers’ future being in jeopardy…

As if the off-season weren’t long enough.

Fan from Carolina

April 12th, 2011
6:43 am

Zzzzzz… This is the same stuff over and over again, year after year. Rawhide, let’s start the playoffs blog NOW for the fans that love NHL hockey and are not fixated on a broken franchise. You write the very best articles and blogs, and I’d like to challenge anyone to find your dedication and quality that we are lucky enough to read here anywhere else in the NHL. How you can do it for this franchise is beyond me.

Rawhide

April 12th, 2011
7:40 am

Brendan – No, it’s not too late to pick a favorite team out west or back east here.

I’ll even let ya know who mine are…in the east it’s Boston, (with a close second to TB) and out west it’s Nashville, (with a close second to PHO).

Fan from Carolina – Thanks for the kind words. Look for the playoff predictions blog, (round one), to be posted later today. I’m still working on my picks.

glovesave29

April 12th, 2011
7:46 am

Curly – Hainsey? Really? Think ya might be upset cause you think he’s overpaid (but that’s not his fault). This is the same thinking we heard last year about Slater (being drafted where he was – again, not of his doing). Hainsey had a good season. The defensive struggles on this team began when the forwards stopped forechecking…thus teams got a full head of steam on the attack. We also didn’t pressure the points and gave the opposition D – the quarterbacks – time to pick us apart. Pavelec played more that I would have like this year, and it showed down the stretch. Mason was too inconsistent and kept the D guessing which one was going to show.

World Be Free

April 12th, 2011
7:52 am

I believe the Thrashers are going to trade one of their current defenseman before July 1.

Toby, Buff, Stuart and Hainsey are all signed for next season and beyond. Hainsey’s contract is not tradable so he is here for sure. Zubarev, Postma and Kulda. At least one, maybe 2 of these guys is going to make the club because they are young and cheap.

That leaves Bogo and Oduya as the 2 tradable assets. Oduya has one more year on his current deal, Bogosian is an RFA who will be looking for a sizable raise, despite his ever descending game. Mr. Rawhide confirmed our offensive numbers for this season were downright offensive. We need another right winger to take Stewart’s place and a center to improve the pivot position. I see Bogosian heading out of town for a good return, hopefully to a Western Conference team.

Stan Drulia

April 12th, 2011
8:34 am

LAC – the only thing that I have enjoyed about you this season is watching your relationship with Sage blossom with each passing day. It warms my heart to know that there really is a thing called love out there! Everything else you have said this year has bored me to tears. Have a great summer you two crazy kids!

ejimbo

April 12th, 2011
8:49 am

Thanks, Rawhide. My wife and I only miseed 2 home games and here’s how we’d grade the team: Forwards- B-, Centers- C, Defensemen-C-, Power Play-D+, Penalty Kill-B, Goaltending-B-, Coaching-F. Overall- C-. On a frustration factor, this team ranked right up there with Anderson’s. Hartley’s teams played a strong home game and we never expected much in the early years.

Not Blind

April 12th, 2011
9:05 am

It occurred to me the other day that the last game with the Pens showed how their 3rd and lower forwards are better than our 1st and 2nd lines. The Pens sat out their top guys and still won easily.

Alan R.

April 12th, 2011
9:31 am

Not Blind – The real question, at this point, is this:

Did the Pens win because their bottom six is better than our top six, or because our guys couldn’t be arsed enough to give a damn?

I’d wager is more the latter than the former.

Cliff Fletcher

April 12th, 2011
9:34 am

stan////
you just earned your 2nd beer

KLS1

April 12th, 2011
9:42 am

No doubt we are a couple players away from having the talent to compete in the playoffs.

The good news is that there will be some addition thru subtraction of a couple players that did not contribute at an NHL level…fill in the blank with a name of your choice.

Lets hope Duds can upgrade at those moveable positions, if so and we can stay in town, there will be something to cheer for next year.

DWTOO

April 12th, 2011
9:43 am

Sunday was really anti-climatic. What started out as cautious optimism over the summer as we acquired Ladd, Buff, Sopel, and Eager. And with out fast start out of the gate about had us giddy. And then the crash of an over sugared eight year old and it’s business as usual Dec thru April.

Seems like the team started to tank when Slater got hurt and the announcement that the ASG wanted to sell the team all along. Know they’re supposed to be professionals, but, who wouldn’t be affected by that announcement. Going to work everyday amid speculation about the team’s future can’t help.

Well, time to start cheering on the Flyers.

Joe Friday

April 12th, 2011
9:54 am

“Did the Pens win because their bottom six is better than our top six, or because our guys couldn’t be arsed enough to give a damn?

I’d wager is more the latter than the former.”

Their bottom 6 are not better than our top 6, not by any stretch of the imagination. The explanation is quite simple, it’s coaching. They play a system that works and are motivated. We play Ramsay’s kinder gentler NHL style. Wonder if our boys all pitched in to get Coach a gift certificate to Dick’s Sporting Goods and will present it to him today?

Tincup9

April 12th, 2011
9:54 am

The Good: NHL Hockey, there really is no substitute. Also, the games on TV in HD.

The Bad: Too many nights, only one NHL team hit the ice. The number of times this team quit was disgusting. Losing is one thing. Not showing up as a professional? Unacceptable. Complete lack of respect to the fans. And Bogo wondered aloud at one point why more fans weren’t attending.

The Ugly – the comment someone else made about Ramers ties. OMG, those were awful. Truly.

Smoothie

April 12th, 2011
10:02 am

Not Blind – I think it was more an indictment of Bogosian and Mason than anything else. Thought our forwards played well again against the Pens, but alas, they have trouble putting the biscuit in the basket. Too many puck settlers and hesitaters when it comes to shooting the bean. Gotta use the one-timer (have your stick ready!!) off cross-ice passes (although Wheeler was just too wide on his), not use an interminable wind-up (Oduya) and be stronger on the puck (Little) when I guy is trying to backcheck. Don’t know if it’s a mental thing with these guys or a skill thing. Combo of both I suppose. Other than Kennedy’s PPG, color me unimpressed. Mason was AWFUL.

Stop Yelling Knights

April 12th, 2011
10:26 am

WARD–You are right on–Why is this not a bigger issue?–I keep hearing the attitude of well its a tradition to yell “Knights” during the anthem and we can’t stop it so let’s just ignore it. I was born in Marietta and have lived in Georgia almost my whole life with a few years in SC. I’m proud to be southern. But unfortunately I think there is a redneck attitude of we yell Knights and we don’t care who doesn’t like it. IT’S DISRESPECTFUL TO OUR FLAG AND OUR PLAYERS!!!! I urge everyone if we have a season here next year, God willing, that everyone yell “THRASHERS!” when all the idiots are yelling Knights.

Alan R.

April 12th, 2011
10:50 am

Their bottom 6 are not better than our top 6, not by any stretch of the imagination.

That’s my point.

Alan R.

April 12th, 2011
10:55 am

But unfortunately I think there is a redneck attitude of we yell Knights and we don’t care who doesn’t like it. IT’S DISRESPECTFUL TO OUR FLAG AND OUR PLAYERS!!!!

Newsflash: Worse things happen in other cities. If you think this is the biggest problem surrounding this franchise and its fans, you haven’t been paying attention to:

a. The past seven years of horrible ownership;
b. The horrible mismanagement of assets;
c. The inept forces that have mismanaged said assets;
d. The need to rush our prospects into the NHL;
e. The absolute lack of any sort of marketing of this team in this city;
f. Those damn birds always going CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP outside Stroz’s window.

Let’s get our priorities straight, here. I’m not a fan of yelling KNIGHTS during the anthem either, but whining about the anthem during an ownership crisis is like whining about NPR during a budget crisis. Not important!

Tom

April 12th, 2011
10:57 am

Bogo decides not to play for Team USA. Do you think his confidence is so bad that he is scared to go against the best players and destroy his value even further at the Worlds?
That would be my humble guess.

Joe McGrath

April 12th, 2011
11:03 am

I wonder what Duds could get for Stewart, Oduya, Bogosian and a first round draft pick?

Smoothie

April 12th, 2011
11:07 am

Tom – spot on IMO. Awesome to think our former #3 pick has the confidence of a gawky, pimple-faced teenager at the prom. Goodness!

World Be Free

April 12th, 2011
11:12 am

Bogo confidence and his game are both a mess. Again, I am not blaming Bogosian for his current state, I blame the team that put him in this position to begin with. He needs to focus on building his game again, start with just playing defense and not worry about offense. I don’t care if he goes goalless in a full season, play sound defense and everything else will fall into place. He has nothing to build on these days.

BMF

April 12th, 2011
11:22 am

More random thoughts:
Our biggest trade assets are: Oduya, Hainsey (tough sell, big contract), Antropov (same thing), our 1st rd pick, and our cap space. We could use another scoring winger or centerman. Move Buff up to wing, we have the organizational depth at D to allow that, and I really think we’d get more out of Buff for our 5 year investment. He could always slide back to D if we have injuries and whatnot. I would not be disappointed if we trade for a legit #1 goalie, slide Pavelec back into a backup role, and buy out Mason’s remaining 1 year. Get Ladd to sign his contract! Re-sign Dvorak. Cut Stewart loose. How about an organized effort (led by team management and players) to stop yelling “KNIGHTS!” during the anthem. Dollar hot dogs before 1st puck drop of ALL home games. Less silly movie clips after goals.

BMF

April 12th, 2011
11:28 am

although I do crack up when they show the clip from “Raising Arizona” with Gale and Evelle driving the station wagon after they left Nathan Jr at the bank

forsty the snowman

April 12th, 2011
11:51 am

***No doubt we are a couple players away from having the talent to compete in the playoffs***

Did I miss something? Are we trading for Ryan Kesler and Alex Ovechkin? Maybe we are getting Crosby and Luongo? Unless we get 2 of the quality of these players we are alot further than 2 players away from the playoffs! This team is a real top line (including d men) and a legitimate goalie away from the playoffs, thats about 4-5 true top 6 players

On another note, the problem with development is that we have No solid veteran talent( guys who were studs when they were younger) to mentor our young guys. Anyone remember the immediate change in Coburns game when traded to the flyers?

Bogo needs a solid mentor, We need a veteran d man that can play here for 2 years with bogo and constantly teach him. Problem is nobody really good wants to play here

AtlFlamesFan

April 12th, 2011
12:02 pm

For awhile, I thought we actually outplayed the Pens. However, stupid plays lead to easy Pitt goals. At the beginning of the season, we found a way to win. After December, we found ways to lose.

Stop Yelling Knights

April 12th, 2011
12:04 pm

Alan R.- We all know about the ownership mess. What can we do about it besides boycotting hockey? I think most of us don’t want to do that. This is one thing that we do have control over.

ZAvalanche

April 12th, 2011
12:15 pm

WBF – I think most D-men need to play more in the style of Foote – ZBO needs to look at Foote’s tape from over the years and take some notes. Problem is that it is hard to find a player who doesn’t care about scoring and would rather wipe some forward’s face off the ice. Scoring is sexy, defending is not. The old-school defenders, Foote Lidstrom Chara, etc, are a rarity. But you know this.

I think ZBo will have a decent career. I also think that he is being coached wrong in the manner in which he is built to play. Everybody makes bad plays – everybody. But the biggest states, in my opinion, for a D are minutes played and +/-. By far. And his +/-, as we all know, sucked.

When are we going to get a D coach that can teach the players to make that “Bourque-esque” outlet pass? Our forwards are repeatedly forced to make a huge play to get through the neutral zone. Not even Ovy or Crosby can do that all the time. They must feel like they are alone out there.

Two more negatives then I will talk playoffs: our D don’t clear out the PFs and Centers in front of Pavs. His job is made that much more difficult than it should be. I believe he is solid keeper and must be frustrated as hell. Secondly, If you are going to teach the dump and chase then do it the right way. You don’t dump until you have a forward right at the blue line racing in. Doing it the way we usually do it is just giving the puck away – pure and simple. I really hope Thrashy picks up some good D in the off season and move Buffy to center.

I think Tampa can take a beat up Pens team. We know Malkin will be out, who knows about Sid but Tampa has one of the best front lines in Hockey. Tampa in 7.

If Vancouver is going to get upset it will happen with Chicago. THAT is going to be a good series I think. Pick – Vancouver in 6

Going to be a lot of bruises in the Sharks-Kings series, those teams play physical. Pick – Sharks in 6. Missing Kopitar is devastating for LA.

Rangers Caps – hmmm. This should be an obvious choice but if Lundqvist is on fire it will be scary for the Caps. And he is looking good. Pick – Caps in 5

Sorry Buffalo, the Philly is too big for you. Pick – Philly sweep.

Phoenix, I am so rooting for you but even without Zetterburg Detroit is going to mow you. This is what they do when it comes April. Pick – Det in 5

Ducks vs Preds. This is a hard one and I think there will be game 7 in this series. Ducks have the more experienced team, but I am hoping for an upset. If I had to bet the house I will take Ducks in 7.

Play some good golf Montreal. You are running into a buzz saw. Pick – Boston in 5.

ZAvalanche

April 12th, 2011
12:19 pm

Frosty – I really don’t think we need another O, we need a couple of solid D that can rock the PK and send in bombs from the point. D that can push the forwards around. Yup, they are hard to find.

Rawhide

April 12th, 2011
12:23 pm

We can now put the 2010-11 Thrashers season behind us and move forward into the NHL Playoffs.

So…what’s your first round predictions?

R. Stroz

April 12th, 2011
12:25 pm

Concerning the Knights issue, although I’m not one who yells “Knights,” the reason the behavior has persisted is solely due to the ineptitude of the current team president and former general manager to ice a team with heart and talent.

At the “shirts off the back ceremony” on Sunday, players such as Thorburn receive the loudest applause because they play with heart and passion. For the most part, the Thrashers teams have lacked heart, passion, and talent for eleven years. The one constant over that period of time is Don Waddell and low payrolls. When we have owners and management that consistently put a product on the ice, the “knights” issue will go away. Until then, the “Knights” issue is merely a symptom of the most pathetic ownership, management, player development, and scouting in the NHL over the last eleven years.

The yelling of “Knights” is a constant reminder to Don Waddell and the Spirit Clowns that they have sucked as stewards of the Thrasher organization.

R. Stroz

April 12th, 2011
12:25 pm

I’ve been ranalloed.

Old Time Hockey

April 12th, 2011
4:18 pm

You really think thats what the idiots screaming are thinking? Puhleeeez. I bet half the people yelling have no idea why, and the other half still think the Knights were great hockey team (was at every home game…it was piss poor hockey compared to even the worst NHL performance).

This team just needs to continue to move forward. Good young core. Build on it and add a few pieces. And a new training staff!

R. Stroz

April 17th, 2011
11:49 pm

Rawhide

April 20th, 2011
4:46 pm

R. Stroz – Nope.