Thrashers UFAs: Should they stay or should they go?

With the Thrashers 2010-11 season coming to a merciful end this week, we once again set our sights ahead towards a new season and fresh start next fall. One of the first steps in doing this is to take a look at those on the current roster who are scheduled to become unrestricted free agents on July 1 and consider whether or not they should be re-signed or allowed to skate off into the Thrasherville sunset.

There are three such Thrashers players slated for UFA status this summer…Eric Boulton, Radek Dvorak and Freddy Meyer. No, they’re not exactly the types you expect on the top of anyone’s UFA wish list. But nonetheless, they become our participants in this year’s “Should They Stay or Should They Go” free agent debate.

Eric Boulton

  • He should stay (57%, 175 Votes)
  • He should go (43%, 133 Votes)

Total Voters: 308

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Eric Boulton:Finishing his sixth season as a Thrasher, Boulton has found a niche as the team’s enforcer over the years. He’s been involved in some of the most memorable, and sometimes lengthy, fights during his time here. That, plus he’s become somewhat of a fan favorite in these parts. He is coming off a contract that paid $650,000 this season.

Boulton has played in 375 games here scoring 21 goals, 34 assists with a –17 rating and has racked up 625 PIM. Also, it can be noted here that he along with Anthony Stewart have been the only two to score hat tricks for the Thrashers this season.

My take…given Bolts celebrates birthday number 35 in August, I would not be surprised if we are watching the last few games with him on our roster.

Radek Dvorak

  • He should stay (28%, 85 Votes)
  • He should go (72%, 215 Votes)

Total Voters: 300

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Radek Dvorak: Along with a fifth-round draft pick, the 34-year old Dvorak came over in the deal that sent Niclas Bergfors and Patrick Rissmiller to the Florida Panthers back at the trade deadline. The 10th overall pick in the 1995 draft has had a respectable career…playing in 1,118 NHL games scoring 215, 341 assist with a +1 rating. 

For the season, one in which he was paid $1.7 million, he has 7 goals, 14 assists and is a +2 in the 66 games split between the Thrashers and Panthers.

Unfortunately, none of the goals have come in the 13 games played here since the trade.

My prediction here is that he’ll skate away somewhere else this summer. If so, then the Thrashers will be left with Florida’s fifth-round draft pick as the only token for Rissmiller and Bergfors’ departure.

Freddy Meyer

  • He should stay (14%, 40 Votes)
  • He should go (86%, 256 Votes)

Total Voters: 296

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Freddy Meyer:This undrafted defenseman inked a one-year, $600,00 contract with the Thrashers last August. He played in 15 games before being placed on injured reserve on February 4 withan upper body injury. He’s scored one more goal than Dvorak in just two more games played, has added an assist and is a –7 with 8 PIM.

Meyer has more or less been what many might call “serviceable” for the Thrashers. But with defensemen like Arturs Kulda, Paul Postma and Andrei Zubarev waiting their turns, I’d image Freddy will be playing elsewhere next fall.

And of course, you’re more than welcome to discuss the unrestricted free agents that make up a portion of the Thrashers roster depth. Those players include Jason Krog ($550,000), Noah Welch ($525,000), Jaime Sifers ($525,000), and Jared Ross ($500,000).

Or you could discuss last night’s 6-3 pounding at the hands of the Predators.

135 comments Add your comment

shootoutloss

April 6th, 2011
7:37 am

Wtf is a Dvorak?

Matt

April 6th, 2011
7:57 am

Ladd? Anything happen with him?

GaVaHokie

April 6th, 2011
8:02 am

I’d like to keep Boults… I’ll always wonder what this year would have been like with the Greek God line intact all year.

I’m one of the 2 people that voted to keep Dvorak… I think he’s very important to the PK. Do whatever you need to the top two lines for scoring, but we need efficient PKers.

Meyers let me down this year after being one of my favorites during training camp… he can go.

Not even going to pretend to want any of those Wolves UFA’s.

boults stays

April 6th, 2011
8:02 am

re-sign boults!

Dwayne

April 6th, 2011
8:12 am

bye bye to all 3 of ‘em

Red Light

April 6th, 2011
8:14 am

Character. Professionalism. Leadership. Clearly there is no place for those kind of players on this team. Let them walk.

LAC

April 6th, 2011
8:20 am

Devorak trade was THE WORST since Colburn/Zit, and came after DUD dudley said there would be
would NOT trade for older players, young players or draft picks, Yet ANOTHER LIE from the GM of this franchise, seems no matter who it is and I mean IT rather than a person who is good at their job.
Because DUD is Terrible !, and dishonest to us Fans !

dudley should be fired and get a REAL hockey guy in here, free from the waddell connections and tear this mess apart and start over. There is little to work with and The First to go should be little
zach B. I am tired of watching the past two seasons of BAD defense from him, and I mean BAD BAD BAD !!!

The Real Thrash

April 6th, 2011
8:23 am

Voting results show a part of why are are the bad team we are. Keep Bpoulton? Are you kidding?
The Dvorak trade shows that Dudley can make trade duds as well as Waddell. Something for nothing.

The Real Thrash

April 6th, 2011
8:25 am

Red Light

April 6th, 2011
8:14 am
Character. Professionalism. Leadership. Clearly there is no place for those kind of players on this team. Let them walk.

How about players with a positive plus/minus?

World Be Free

April 6th, 2011
8:31 am

Dvorak will be staying-I would like to see him here for an entire season, no matter what others may think of him and regardless of his age. I don’t envy any tarde deadline player going to any club. He will be here, 1 year deal.

Bolts-he will probably hang ‘em up on his own after this season and hopefully find a place in the organization in some fashion. Anyone who lasts as long as he has deserves a shot to show others that you can succeed with limited talent, though I would be the last person to tell him of his talents to his face. Excellent fighter, no visor makes him a fave in my book.

Bye, bye Freddy-give one of the kids a chance at his spot.

Bogo last night-so who thought he would be better in last night’s game after being rotten for the past few weeks?

boults stays

April 6th, 2011
8:36 am

yeah why keep an enforcer in a league where people elbow players into concussion-ville nearly every game, why keep a guy who gives a consistent effort on every shift unlike the vast majority of our players, why keep a guy who took less money to stay here..a player who wants to play in ATLANTA and makes his home here and does tons of great community work. good point. boulton is one one of the better playing enforcers in the league and what an atlanta thrasher should be, why keep a player like that.

real thrash, do you even watch the games? have you ever noticed we don’t win many battles and that toughness is an issue every year..so your soultion is to get rid of our toughest player. yikes.

criag from twiggs

April 6th, 2011
8:38 am

if they go they will be replaced with other 4th line ahl players. If they stay then we will still be stacked with ahl players, so it doesn’t make a difference if they stay or go.

Last night was a joke, ahl team vs. nhl team

Jameson

April 6th, 2011
8:41 am

Matt- I believe Ladd is a RFA not an UFA.

World Be Free

April 6th, 2011
8:45 am

One positive (just one)-
We have so few UFAs while other teams have quite a few.
The opportunity to pickup quality players for free, if, IF Dudley gets the money to do so.
That’s the big if-we are an AHL team for a number of reasons, one of which being we have an AHL payroll.

Rawhide

April 6th, 2011
8:53 am

Matt - Ladd is an RFA and from what I hear he and the Thrashers are close. My guess is that he and/or the team have decided to finaize it once the season is done.

Red Light - I will not argue with you at all about either of their character or committment to effort. However, this is a results oriented business. Would I have an issue with the Thrashers re-signing, say, Boulton for another year at $600K or so? Nope…not at all. But I also would understand if they decided now was a good time to part ways with all 3 of them.

The Real Thrash - I think the positive showing for Bolts in the Fan Poll has a lot to do with what I said about him in the post above. He’s a true fan favorite, and for very good reason. I’m not at all surprised by it.

Fan from Carolina

April 6th, 2011
8:55 am

That was an easy one. Thumbs down to them. They are too used to losing and are not the answer for the rosters of the future. Pick up players, like Ladd, and Buff, from the teams competing for the Cup this year. They will help mold a winning attitude as soon as next season, if the payroll can somehow increase.

World Be Free

April 6th, 2011
8:57 am

Rawhide, the real issue for me is who do we repalce these 3 guys with?
The business end of this team has suffered from day one because of a lack of commitment, character and quality players. Can’t see how this team is better off without Bolts, though I still think he’s going to hang ‘em up on his own.

Joe Friday

April 6th, 2011
9:09 am

Boulton is a keeper, a player’s player, keep him on the 4th line. Meyer is not needed. Dvorak is far over the hill and was supposedly a PK specialist now, but he’s horrible on the PK, some of the weakest clearing attempts all year were from him, just brutal. If we keep the likes of him for our PK, we’re having similar discussions this time next year instead of scoreboard watching to figure out who our 1st round opponent will be.

Fan from Carolina

April 6th, 2011
9:12 am

Please, no talk of plus/minus players. It is such a horrible way to gauge a player’s importance and Cup history. I remember Joe Sakic winning the Conn Smythe award back in the ‘95-95 season I believe. He was a +14 player. Not bad but is that outstanding? The next year he was -10. Did he stink? Of course not, he was a superstar and anyone would have loved to have him. Look at the recent Red Wings blowout to the Blues, 10-3. What did that do to plus/minus stats on that club? Are they now bad players? Just for grins I just looked at the 5th place Lightning roster since they have been blown out numerous times this season. They have only 7 players that are on the plus side, not one on of them is named Vinny, Marty, Gagne, Malone, or Moore. Sorry, I still want them on my playoff club along with their minus ratings. Let’s lose that stat when picking players up.

Red Light

April 6th, 2011
9:35 am

Solid point Fan from Carolina. You want to talk about plus/minus, the last thing you want to do is bring up checking line forwards or disturbers. The Real Thrash apparently is a bit misguided because…guys like Bolts and Dvorak don’t score many goals so they get few plus ratings. They are on the ice against other team’s offensive players fairly often, so they do get minuses.

BTW, Andrew Ladd is -10. Want to ship him out too? Nah, didn’t think so.

Russian

April 6th, 2011
9:41 am

I want to keep only Ladd, Wheeler and Bogus at this summer, everybody else can go. But First of all WE NEED a NEW OWNER.

Red Light

April 6th, 2011
9:54 am

Stephane Yelle is the classic example of a defensive forward. Played on two Cup winners in Colorado. His first season he had 27 points and was plus-15 when the Avs won the Cup in 1995-96. The next time they won the Cup in 2000-01 he had 14 points he was -3. Was he any less effective in his 14 plus minutes of ice time? He had seven minus seasons in his 14-year career.

Dvorak has had a minus rating in eight seasons in 15 seasons, but his overall rating is +1 for his career. He has played on bad teams for much of his career, only making the playoffs four times. When you play on good teams your plus/minus soars. It’s usually that simple and it’s a horrible stat when you look at it by itself.

Boulton is -20 for his career but he has played on only one playoff team in his 10 seasons. He is a decent checker but he’s not going to score goals or be on the ice for many at all. He’s a good guy for your 12th or 13th forward. He’s not going to be anything but that.

World Be Free

April 6th, 2011
9:57 am

Suppose we had the money to acquire players-anyone out there that’s a UFA July 1 of interest? These 3 guys are not as significant as the players we might be able to sign.

Let’s dream for a moment-dream that we had $7M to sign UFAs to improve this team.

Anyone out there?

Toby

April 6th, 2011
10:01 am

Yep…Have to keep them if our cap is once again at the floor. If we get an owner willing to add another $10-$15 mil, then all of the bottom six (except Boults, Antro, and Thorby) can get the boot.

SomaAtl95

April 6th, 2011
10:03 am

Boults is a fan favorite, chances are the Thrashers let him walk, along with the other two. Professional sports is a business and the only 2 way loyalty this club has shown in the past decade is between Ownership and Management, which is why after so much futility management was given a promotion(?!?!?) and ownership has shown that asking the DIY Network to help “Flip my Franchise” didn’t quite work the way they expected.
If I had my choice, sign Boulton for one more season and let the other 2 walk away. Chances are however that all 3 will be gone and we will do our usual “Try to fill gaping holes through the draft” routine we seem to be famous for.
Regardless of what happens I am and will always be faithful to the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back. I hope and pray that new ownership comes along and invests in the team and the distraction that derailed the second half of this season is gone.
If I were faced with the possibility of being forced to play/live in Winnipeg, I’d let it distract the daylights out of me and I feel that is one of the major causes of our second half meltdown.

hockeygoon79

April 6th, 2011
10:05 am

Why would you want to get rid of Boulton when he’s as close to an enforcer as we have on this team? Sure Stuart will have a go once in a while but you don’t want a d-man in the box for 5 minutes on a regular basis.

The other two may go.

Rawhide

April 6th, 2011
10:14 am

Rawhide, the real issue for me is who do we repalce these 3 guys with?

WBF – Logical question, of course. But another one would be, “What exactly have we won with these three”?

hockeygoon79 – I don’t think I said that’s what I “wanted” to happen…I just gave “my take” on what I think will happen.

This isn’t personal…it’s strictly business.

World Be Free

April 6th, 2011
10:22 am

Rawhide-we have won very little with these 3, others included. I guess my point here is it is OK to ;et them go if Dudley has a plan and the means to carry out this plan. No laughing please…..

james c.

April 6th, 2011
10:28 am

All the comments about the Thrashers being an AHL level team are pure nonsense from people who don’t truly know hockey.An AHL team would not beat the Philadelphia Flyers three times! Wake up! Yes, this team needs some more aggressive defensemen and some more forwards with a scoring touch but please don’t compare the Thrashers to players in a development league…come on, this team narrowly missed the NHL playoffs!

GaVaHokie

April 6th, 2011
10:40 am

Honestly, I have to see that we still have a team this summer before I truly care about any of these guys.

But…

Every year we pick up 4th line scrubs like Rissmiller and Dawes with the expectations that they’ll replace Boulton… every year, Boulton wins his job back. How about the organization realise this for once, and use that money towards something we really need this summer?

Fan from Carolina

April 6th, 2011
10:45 am

Thank you Red Light. More excellent examples. I’m glad not to be alone in this thinking.

World Be Free

April 6th, 2011
10:50 am

James c>- I think what people are saying here is that we have players on our current roster that are of AHL quality, not that the entire team is AHL. Also, at times the Thrashers as a team play like an AHL team rather than an NHL team. This is also years of frustration seeing the same old garbage recycled year after year. Especially when we see a team like Nashville develop and fly past us as a comparative organization.

Smoothie

April 6th, 2011
10:57 am

“Dvorak will be staying-I would like to see him here for an entire season, no matter what others may think of him and regardless of his age. I don’t envy any tarde deadline player going to any club. He will be here, 1 year deal”

Interesting take WBF, but I’m undecided on Dvorak. He was banged up when he came here and he started to skate like his normal self for 3 or 4 games before getting the concussion. Bigger question is will he come back as a shell of himself due to the concussion like symptoms he’s suffering from? I’d like to think there is someone out there, at a younger age, who can do the job he was brought in to do. Perhaps a guy like Jussi Jokinen, who is only 28 and relatively cheap at $1.7 M. Carolina won’t want to spend much more on him so perhaps we can pluck him from a rival. Plus, I just want to be able to say, you must be “jokinen” when we give up yet another dumbfounding PK goal! :cool:

As for Boultsy, I love him to death, but how much did his presence as an “enforcer” really help us attitude-wise and from a team chemistry standpoint? He didn’t fight as much and the team has lots of young players who will play with fire in their bellies (Kaner, Lits, Ladd, Burmy etc) regardless of Boultsy’s efforts as a team “policeman”. Plus, Stuart, Thorburn and even Laddy has shown a willngness to drop the gloves and defend a teammate. Still wish we hadn’t given up on Eager as he was Burmy’s bodyguard for the first half of the year. I’d probably give Boultsy a one year deal with a 5% raise and tell him the 13th forward job is his to lose.

PS – I really like Maxwell’s game, he’s a very good skater, smooth passer and hustles his butt off when he’s out there. In an expanded 4th line role next season, I think he could really flourish as Boultsy’s replacement. But it’d be good to have Boultsy in the fold in case Maxwell needs a game here or there for maintenance, slumps etc.

As for potential UFA’s I’d think about signing for a good price: Jokinen, Vrbata, Upshall, Glencross, Kopecky (don’t see him leaving his buddy Hossa in CHI) and perhaps even Morrison (Brendan) as he might give us the perfect veteran presence on the 3rd line next year playing with a healthy Antropov and either Cormier or perhaps even Klingberg. I do like the potential of a Kaner-Burmy-Antro line next year, but Morrison can still get it done in the F/O circle and might be a valuable add for the PP and at the defensive end of the ice.

Hoof Arted

April 6th, 2011
11:08 am

“I thought we played a real good game”, Craig Ramsay

“I’ve never seen this team quit. Not once this year”, Nik Antropov

Read and re-read those two quotes after loss in Nashville and then look no further for an explanation as to what the problem is here.

Lets see, fall behind 3-0 after 1 period and the 5-0 in the second then 6-1 in the third. Claw your way back to a 6-3 loss. That’s playing a “real good game”? I beg to differ.

And that was what, the 8th or 9th time we gave up 2 goals in under a minute this season? Gee Craig, you haven’t been able to address this yet?

And if Antropov has never seen this team “quit” this season, maybe he has spent too much time looking at the ice girls during games. They’ve quit many, many times in games this season.

Boulton? Dvorak? Meyer?

Gone, gone and gone.

As BlogMaster points out, what have we won with them? I like EB and think he’s done a fine job in his role. But we don’t need a 35 year old player simply to provide quality fights.

Meyer actually impressed me some nights, but we have to find a way to get some of these prospects ice time here.

Dvorak? Well, let’s just say we gave up on Bergfors way too soon. Crying shame too.

james c.

April 6th, 2011
11:14 am

WBF fair comment.What I will also say is that part of the problem is I am sure Thrashers players don’t feel as motivated playing in front of a half full building some nights compared to an arena packed with fans.Yes, this is an under achieving team but the average Atlanta hockey fan has to be willing to endure years of frustration like other cities (Chicago,Buffalo,Pittsburgh,St.Louis,Detroit,Boston,Toronto,Washington) did and in a few short years miracles can happen! I still can’t believe there aren’t 15,000 people in greater Atlanta willing to support this team night after night.I am convinced a full building would make a huge difference in the play of this team.

drajax

April 6th, 2011
11:22 am

bolton plays a crucial role in the game for us, plus he is a great teammate. dvorak provides stability and experience. they both should be kept. I believe this years demise started when Slaton went down and the greek gods line had to be rebuilt. We were never the same. I’m not sure why that line was so important but it seemed that Dudley spent players trying to replace it. I’d be interested in what others think about that.

hockeygoon79

April 6th, 2011
11:32 am

Point taken, Rawhide. But I still think Bolts has another year of quality service in him. $650K buys a lot of heart and effort with him.

World Be Free

April 6th, 2011
12:19 pm

James c-you offer a lot to talk about.
People in the house-hockey is like any other sport, it’s entertainment. Thrashers’ fans turned out the first 4 years despite really bad teams. But it became clear over time that there were major issues that needed to be addressed. Bad draft picks, poor development and the flow of quality talent out of town deflated this fan base to its current size. Consider the first 11 seasons of mostly agony; if you do then you should salute the fact that people are still loyal to the team and start counting the thousands that have tuned out.

Consider all the cities your listed except Tronna; all these hockey cities have had periods of poor fan support. As a Buffalonian, I can remember several periods when Sabres’ fans were turned off to the product and stayed away. Take the first 11 seasons of this team and put it in any of the cities you noted and you would get the same support. People want value for their money. Commitment and dedication-it has to be a two way street.

As for the players, they are paid to play and perform. If the players need the fans to motivate them, then there is something wrong with the players.

Mitch4404

April 6th, 2011
12:21 pm

Keep Boults , I think he fits in well with the unit we have here and I think he would be flexible on salary to stay here. Of everyone on the roster Boults , Thorburn & Mason bring it every night! DVorak might develop for us but I think everyone expected more . Freddy can go

World Be Free

April 6th, 2011
12:21 pm

Smoothie-I like your list if UFAs, nice start. Carolina has a couple UFAs and they will not be spending more next season.

I may be wrong about Dvorak coming back-I just have a feeling.

Stan Drulia

April 6th, 2011
12:22 pm

Hoof – I agree completely. Those two statement this morning are just ridiculous. Ramsey saying that we played a good game is just insulting to me as a fan. I will admit, I didn’t even watch the game last night – it wasn’t televised and honestly my interest in the remaining games isn’t high enough for me to go to my favorite bar to watch their satellite feed. This season got my hopes us so high that I am just tired now… tired of the whole season. Ready for next season I guess, though right now even that is hard to get excited about. Go Braves?

World Be Free

April 6th, 2011
12:24 pm

Hoof – I don’t feel bad about giving up on Bergfors, I am more upset about over valuing him to begin with. Bergie’s only asset was working in tight within 10 feet of the net. Problem is, he did not have the willingness to go in the 10 foot zone too often-not willing to pay the price.

Back from NJ

April 6th, 2011
12:49 pm

Mitch – Did you really mean Mason? Surely you meant someone else. I’d have to consider Mason to be one of the year’s biggest busts…..Oh to have Moose back. I know part of his great stats this year is because of NJ’s system, but he played better for us last year than Mason did this year.

Sage of Bluesland

April 6th, 2011
12:59 pm

Wow. What a sad topic. The cupboard isn’t great, is it?

I’m sure we’ll get things straightened out in this third installment of Don Waddell’s “Five-Year Plan”.

What an utter joke this organization is; what a joke this topic is with these three “players” (and I use that term very loosely). Not the blogmaster’s fault–but this is all we have to talk about.

The rest is further subsidization of the incompetence…Don Waddell thanks you for your support. He’s a weally nice guy, too.

Cornbread

April 6th, 2011
1:03 pm

Eric Boulton is one Hell of a hockey player. He was the last player in the league to finish a game a minus, scored a hat trick, and had one of the best bouts of the year. The guy plays smart and can still skate and hit. He’s number a 12 or 13 and I did not expect him to play as many games as he did on the 4th line. Shows how ineffective some of the callups were this year.

Dvorak was brought in for one reason, kill penalties. The guy was the number two on the best PK unit in the league. He still has got wheels and plays a more responsible and physical game than Bergfors ever did. He’s not here to score. Put him on the fourth line and use him defensively.

Meyer is gone. Too many prospects that will be ready to fill the number 5-7 role.

Alan R.

April 6th, 2011
1:10 pm

WBF, Bill — To me, the replacements are logical.

Keep Boults, replace Meyer and Dvorak with Tootoo and Cole. Atlanta Thrashers win in 2012!

[/sarcasm] ;)

Cornbread

April 6th, 2011
1:24 pm

WBF I predicted yesterday that Bogo would have a great game and skate as the number 1 D-man last night. He has played some great hockey down the stretch including all 3 games in March against the Flyers. The rotten games tend to obscure everything that he has done well.

As for Zubarov’s debut, has there been an unluckier or crazy NHL debut? The first 3 goals there is no way he was at fault. He was actively and physically involved in all of them and had some of the craziest bounces go against him. The fourth goal of the game that he was also on the ice for was his fault. He was way too high at the point and out of position badly. It is the one thing I noticed about his game last night, he was higher than his partner and not offering good support for a D to D pass. It was good to see Coach Ramsay and Torchetti continue to give the kid ice time and play over 20 minutes and that he eventually was on the ice for a Trashers’ goal.

New roles for lots of players. Burmistrov centered Kane and both had over 20 minutes. They played very well together.

If you watched the game you would have seen that the Thrashers dominated much of the play. Mason had to get a handle on or stop the first 3. Just crazy goals.

Daculafan

April 6th, 2011
1:31 pm

The big reason why management can never be a fan is because then the heart begins to influence what would otherwise be a cut and dried business decision. That’s why I could never be a GM.

I would take Boults back because he’s one of my favorites on the team and I wouldn’t take Dvorak or Meyer because I just don’t see any real up side to it. I guess to try and temper my blind willingness to take Boulton just because he’s a favorite. I’d wait to re-sign him until right before camp. If he shows up for camp in good shape then I sign..another 1 year deal..if he’s not in good shape..sorry dude.

The upside to Boulton is that he provides more than just a set of fists out there. He’s actually pretty good for a grinding forward, he fights..he’s veteran locker room presence and he’s actually usually pretty healthy during the season. He doesn’t usually spend much time on the IR.

Like I said…I’m glad I’m not a GM..I’d make terrible decisions based on how I like players

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April 6th, 2011
1:39 pm

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SportsFan

April 6th, 2011
1:56 pm

Unless a new owner shows up (pardon by I hardly think “THE BALKAN” is a legitimate possibility) we’re as good as gone. I don’t see how ASG goes on another year…so until then..UFA’s are not likely to show interest….