Crushing loss for Thrashers follows disallowed Kane goal

Was it a good goal…or was it not?

That’s sure to be the topic of debate today after the Thrashers fell to the New Jersey Devils Tuesday night. Trailing 3-2 in the dying seconds of the third period, Evander Kane got his stick on the puck as it was fired toward Martin Brodeur’s net and deflected it in for the game-tying score.

However, the ref waived off the goal claiming the puck was played with a high stick. Kane, while sitting on the bench waiting for the review call from Toronto, seemed to believe the call on the ice was …ahem…shall we say, “male bovine excrement”.

Later he would simply say, “I definitely disagree with the call.”

Ilya Kovalchuk then potted an empty netter, the Devils won 4-2 and for the first time this season have a points winning percentage above .500. The team that once was 10-29-2 and sitting in last place at New Years has gone 23-2-3 and has pulled even with the Thrashers in the standings with 70 points and has a game in hand.

Jacob Josefson celbrates what turned out to be the game-winning goal in front of the Thrashers bench. Later in the game it seemed as though Evander Kane had tied it, but the refs saw it differently (AP Photo/Julio Cortez)

Jacob Josefson celbrates what turned out to be the game-winning goal in front of the Thrashers bench. Later in the game it seemed as though Evander Kane had tied it, but the refs saw it differently (AP Photo/Julio Cortez)

Heading in the opposite direction during the Devils’ second half surge, Atlanta is now 7-14-6 in the last 27 games dating back to early January.

As for the “no goal” call…I’ve seen the replay from all angles, just as I’m sure you all have by now. I’ve even removed my blue-tinted glasses in an attempt to view it from an objective and unbiased viewpoint. But I just have to tell you to me it looked like a good goal, the puck making contact with the stick while it was on a downward swing and below the height of the crossbar.

Unfortunately, I wasn’t sitting in the official replay official’s seat and was therefore unable to reverse the call.

Making this even that much more frustrating for Thrashers fans is remembering the “goal” that was allowed for the Coyotes out in Phoenix last month that led to a 4-3 Atlanta loss.

…shrugs…

However, while you are debating the ruling…a call that very well may have cost the Thrashers at least a shot at contesting for the postseason down the stretch…there is one thing I don’t want you to lose sight of. Atlanta found themselves in a desperate struggle to try and tie the score at the end of the game because they once again failed to properly handle a two-goal lead earlier in the contest. It’s something that they’ve had issues with the last four times they’ve been blessed with such an advantage.

Just as they did in Carolina last week, and against the Panthers on March 5, and in Edmonton on February 19, the Thrashers saw the opposition come back to tie the game after going up by two. This time, just as was the case against the Oilers, they failed to come away with any points…and the results were just as crushing.

What do you think of the "no goal" call that negated Kane's score?

  • Good call by the ref. The puck was played by a high stick (21%, 35 Votes)
  • It was a load of male bovine excrement (79%, 130 Votes)

Total Voters: 165

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Tim Stapleton and Chris Thorburn staked the team to a late first period lead. Stapleton converted by tipping in a very nice spinning backhand pass from Kane off the left boards at the 15:24. Thorburn then powered his way around the Devils defense 65 seconds later for his 8th of the season.

For Stapleton it was his third goal in the last eight games…his first coming just after the Thrashers had waived him. In contrast, the snake-bit Bryan Little has tickled the twine only once in the last 22 games dating back to the middle of January.

But as stated prior, the Thrashers were unable to handle their success. They couldn’t even make it out of the period with their two-goal advantage as Travis Zajac cut the lead in half at 18:52. Patrik Elias tied the game just over five minutes into the second then Jacob Josefson put the Devils ahead for good 3-2 just 4:14 into the third.

Also, as has been the case in so many games this year, the Thrashers seemed completely unable to deal with whatever adjustments were made by the opposition coming out of the first and second intermission. In the middle frame alone they were out-shot 9-2 by New Jersey after they came out of the break flying.

I’m guessing Clint Malarchuk did not deliver a second period motivational talk during the second period this night.

So while you debate whether or not Kane was robbed on that tip-in goal late in the game, remember they were only in that position because they failed once again to hold off a team after taking a two-goal lead. That, and giving up an untimely goals late in the first period and coming out flat early in the other two didn’t helpmatters either.

And this time, it may have cost them more than just a game.

124 comments Add your comment

R. Stroz

March 16th, 2011
5:32 pm

Smoothie

March 16th, 2011
5:35 pm

glove – would you trade our #1 this year without a 2nd rounder for JvR?

glovesave29

March 16th, 2011
5:39 pm

Straight up…? Probably not. But it does depend on what number our draft pick is.

ZAvalanche

March 16th, 2011
5:41 pm

Glove – I respect your arguments and they are all valid. Quite valid in fact. I still think hitting a puck out of mid-air if it is above the crossbar should be a goal. If the NHL is concerned about safety they should institute full shields . Will that prevent every injury to the face, no. But it would go a long way.

ZAvalanche

March 16th, 2011
5:47 pm

What I meant is “will that completely prevent injury to the face”. I wear a full shield every game and I honestly think that if I didn’t I wouldn’t have all my chicklets. It amazes me that old school players didn’t wear helmets or face guards = tough players.

Point being, I am more worried about my shoulders and knees than I am about my face. I can still walk around and manipulate things with a busted lip.

glovesave29

March 16th, 2011
5:58 pm

You mean a full face protector…a la college?

thrasherdawg

March 16th, 2011
6:20 pm

Just change the rule….if the puck goes in the net off a stick it’s good. That would fix all the problems.

It was the wrong call. I have 113 inch screen and can run “frame by frame”, maybe Toronto should do the same. Toronto counts a goal that is a good foot-and-a-half over the crossbar (Phoenix game) and calls this a no-goal when it is clearly touched under the crossbar.

Maybe Toronto should get a 113 inch screen so they can see what the heck they are doing. Whatever method they are using now ain’t workin. They have cost the Thrashers at least 2 points and maybe 4. All we fans ask is that you get it right. Apparently, that seems to be alittle to much.

Chico

March 16th, 2011
7:07 pm

Rawhide, glad it was helpful. Atlanta fought and pounded the Devils for long stretches of the game and certainly deserved to get a point, even if I’m glad they didn’t get it as a New Jersey fan. I hope that, whether they leave or are replaced (and I can’t see the NHL swapping them out), they build a fan base worthy of the effort. Your guys left everything out there on the ice. Focus on all the positives, whether our teams make the playoffs or not, so long as they go down fighting for every shaving of ice.

ZAvalanche

March 16th, 2011
7:13 pm

Glove, yes, a full cage that they use in college. Though I have to admit, I cut out the center part of the cage so I can see through it. A stick could get in there, but it is better than no cage!

Rawhide

March 16th, 2011
7:36 pm

Chico – We always appreciate fans from opposing teams chiming in with their comments presented in the fashion yours were. It really does a lot for the overall conversation. Thanks again and good luck to your Devils from here out.

ZAvalanche

March 16th, 2011
7:36 pm

Oh no, I am in for another ugly one. Avs in Vancouver tonight. When is the pain going to stop?

ZAvalanche

March 16th, 2011
7:39 pm

Chico, you sir are a good fan and well-mannered. As an Avs fan you know what I think about the Devils but it always impresses me to read comments from reasonable people. Kudos to you brutha.

Dave

March 16th, 2011
8:50 pm

Ramsey does not have to go and this team plays their hearts out every night. One, they are a very young team and two they simply don’t have the depth of talent yet. They are going to be a playoff team next year … let’s just hope it’s here in Atlanta. Go Thrashers.

LAC

March 16th, 2011
9:31 pm

I like Postma over bogosain any day, he played solid defense and showed a lot of poise on the ice
esp…. around the net, something zach never does. So zach should go.

Will devorak resign ???? Why he has NOTHING to offer and that trade is my reason dudley should go if and when a new owner is established, he is Terrible !

Lastly, sorry to see “little” cliffy attacking Sage and others yet again on the blog. Doesn’t it get old cliffy ? You sure do ! All you do is jump on others, and offer nothing constructive to the blog, except mindless attacking, I know you have heard enough of Mr.Sage, I have sure heard more than enough from your mouth.

ZAvalanche

March 16th, 2011
9:44 pm

Wow, one heck of a game between Wash and Det tonight. Sick skills on all sides.

thrashersaddict

March 16th, 2011
11:11 pm

Last game for me tomorrow. I will enjoy regardless of the outcome…I will also look forward to returning to Phillips next year to watch my ATLANTA Thrashers! I love hockey, I love Atlanta and I love this team. I will miss you during the playoffs and off season but I will be anxious to see you again next season. Next year I will only have to miss you during the off season…who wants to place a bet???

Hockey Puck

March 16th, 2011
11:55 pm

“The Germans have bombed Pearl Harbor”

ZAvalanche

March 17th, 2011
12:37 am

The Germans bombed my teams…..

ZAvalanche

March 17th, 2011
12:47 am

It is official. God hates me and all of my teams.

Brendan

March 17th, 2011
4:20 am

What’s the Kovy trade again? Cormier, Oduya, Dvorak rental (via Bergfors,) and what else? What was the 1st rounder given to Chicago for??? I can’t remember.

What’s the Lehtonen trade? We got Vishnevskiy, which we then traded for ?? I can’t remember, anymore. Was it Andrew Ladd?? If so, that’s at least something decent, presumming Ladd re-signs for a longterm deal.

What’s the Hossa trade’s legacy? Three prospects (Angelo Esposito, Daultan Leveille, and Eric O’Dell, via Erik Christensen) and a UFA (Colby Armstrong) that walked for nothing.

It’s easy, I think, for some to want to dismiss a high-end 1st rounder or a previous high-end 1st rounder, like a Zach Bogosian, because we’ve seen it end badly, all too often. Review this post for a second. Kovy, Hossa (via Heatley), and Lehtonen were all lottery draft picks of this franchise, who got “salvaged” for what could be found. Now, add to the discussion Patrik Stefan, who was shipped out for Niko Kapanen (now retired, in 2008) and prospect Will O’Neil. Stefan was a 1st overall selection in 1999. Someone out in cyberland just screamed, “Don’t forget Coburn for Zhitnik for that 2003 1st rounder.” Yeah, I was just getting to that. In 2004, Boris Valabik is looking a bit better, since the return is a re-signed on a 3-year deal, Mark Stuart. I won’t count Blake Wheeler as part of the Valabik trade to Boston. Wheeler was for Rich Peverley, a waiver claim by Atlanta via Nashville. In time, that’s a win for Atlanta. In 2005, that seemingly disasterous series of trades of moving from 8th overall to 16th overall, only to select Alex Bourret, gets a bit better knowing that Ondrej Pavelec (12th overall pick traded to obtain him) is the # 1 goalie in Atlanta. I won’t mention Chad Denny (41st overall). But I will say … that Alex Bourret was traded to the NY Rangers for Pascal Dupuis and the Rangers’ 3rd rounder, which was then dealt to Pittsburgh for the newly re-signed to a 3-year deal Chris Thorburn. So, that 2005 1st rounder is really Pavelec (via 12th overall pick) and Thorburn (via Bourret), and busted pick (Chad Denny) today. Someone just screamed, “Brendan, ya know Kopitar, Setoguchi, and Mark Staal were all there for the taking at 8th overall, in 2005, right?” Bygones.

I wouldn’t call our 2006 pick, Bryan Little, a failure. I just hope he can return to 31 goal status, one fine day. Our 2007 1st and 3rd picks belong to the St. Louis Blues for the Tkachuk rental, along with a 2nd rounder (McRae) in 2008. We don’t really know what will yet happen with respect to Bogosian (2008), Kane (2009) and Burmistrov (2010). Will they be trade deadline day “salvaged” for what the market will bear? Or will they actually be properly developed by the Thrashers?

Enter the 2011 Draft. If Dudley is going to trade that pick, then what do we hope for? The “salvagable” return, that would happen eight years later, (in 2019,) which, if history is our guide, are nothing more than middling prospects, 3rd line forwards or 4-5-6 defenders, and low-end 1st round picks. No, that’s not what I hope for. If we’re moving a Top Ten overall pick … it’s got to be for something better than that. Otherwise, we’re better off TRYING to develop the prospect ourselves, and control his rights for the next eight years.

This post just got Ranallo’d, didn’t it?

Brendan

March 17th, 2011
4:23 am

ZAvalanche, are you favorite teams the Cincinnati Bengals, L.A. Clippers, Chicago Cubs, Kansas City Royals, Florida Panthers, and Detroit Lions?

O'Rawhide

March 17th, 2011
6:48 am

This post just got Ranallo’d, didn’t it?

O’Brendan – At 4:20 am? No, ye not be gettin’ ranalloed at that time ‘o the blessed mornin’…but ye did now!

It’s time again, Thrasherville, for our annual St. Patty’s Day celebration blog.

R. Stroz

March 19th, 2011
11:30 pm

Rawhide

March 22nd, 2011
9:24 am

R. Stroz – Nope.