Thrashers finally find way to beat the Hurricanes

Once more the Thrashers drug the Carolina Hurricanes into overtime, just as they had three times in the previous four meetings. Once more their personal tormentor, Erik Cole, scored a big goal against them late in the game…this time on a break away after jumping off the bench to tie the game a two with 7:39 remaining in the third. But, unlike in the previous meeting with the Canes this season, this time it was the Thrashers coming away with the all-important two points after Tim Stapleton scored the game-winning goal for Atlanta in overtime.

Yes, that’s right…I’m talking about Tim “You can’t stop him, you can only hope to contain him” Stapleton, scorer of two goals in the last five games.

Tim Stapleton celebrates his game-winning goal in Carolina Wednesday night with Evander Kane and Ron Hainsey, who assisted on the play (AP Photo/Karl B DeBlaker)

Tim Stapleton celebrates his game-winning goal in Carolina Wednesday night with Evander Kane and Ron Hainsey, who assisted on the play (AP Photo/Karl B DeBlaker)

The Thrashers didn’t come by these two points easily, though. After going up 2-0 in the first period on goals by Rob Schremp and Toby Enstrom, they allowed the Hurricanes back into the game, giving up goals in the second and third. For Schremp it was his first as a Thrasher and eleventh of the season.

However, in overtime Stapleton put home a great pass from defenseman Ron Hainsey following a 2 on 1 break.

Two-goal leads are something Atlanta haven’t had to deal with lately, and their lack of practice holding them has been quite evident lately. Including Wednesday night, the Thrashers have failed to hold the last three two-goal leads they have managed to build. Last Saturday they held a 3-1 lead on Florida before being forced into overtime and last month they blew a 3-1 third period lead on their way to losing 5-3 in Edmonton.

At least these last two times they still found a way to eventually win…so maybe they’re getting the hang of it again, eh?

Ondrej Pavelec returned between the pipes after missing the last week and a half of games. He stopped 35 of 37 shots he faced and improved his record to 19-18-8. He also improved his GAA to 2.64 and his SV% to .920.

“We finally did it,” Pavelec said after the game. “I didn’t mean we didn’t play well against them in the past; we just didn’t find a way to win. Finally we did.”

The victory was the second straight after beating the Panthers in overtime last Saturday. It’s the first time they’ve put even a modest two-game win streak together since the beginning of January when they knocked off Montreal in OT and then beat the Panthers 4-2 two days later.

Making his first NHL start was defenseman Paul Postma. The seventh round pick in the 2007 draft posted 9:55 TOI during 17 shift. He blocked 2 shots, delivered one hit and took one SOG. He finished the game with an EVEN rating.

Postma played in place of Dustin Byfuglien who missed his first game of the season.

And lastly…in case you missed this, Chris Vivlamore reported Wednesday night that there are three entities in discussion to purchase the Thrashers.

In the article, Vivlamore says that team president Don Waddell “is dealing directly with the entities — two groups and one individual — who have expressed an interest in a possible purchase of only the Thrashers from the Atlanta Spirit and in keeping the team in the city. Two of the entities are from Atlanta”.

“Each group is doing their due diligence,” Waddell said.

115 comments Add your comment

Alan R.

March 10th, 2011
7:17 am

Waddell scares me, but at least there’s a lot more than just one person or group looking to acquire (at the very least) the team, with the hopes of keeping them in town. Almost certainly, a deal involving a cut of Arena profits would have to be involved.

World Be Free

March 10th, 2011
7:24 am

Can’t hold a lead-which in the end, will probably be the difference between the team having enough points to make or not make playoffs.

Also, watched Chicago/Tampa Bay last night; 2 teams with great first lines and so-so beyond their top 3. St. Louis got away with stop/start in the shootout for the win. All those who wanted to keep Kubina-he looked horrible last night. TB’s defense is pedestrian at best.

glovesave29

March 10th, 2011
7:53 am

I like to think that Waddell is in the process of negotiating himself out of a job. Lemme get it straight – there are two groups that want the whole ball of wax from ASG, and three additional that want just the Thrash?

For the first time in a loooooong time, last night the team won a game it should not have. Lets hope we can parlay that into something – cause this week is gonna be a be-hotch with NJ and PHI 2x. Lets hope the boys rise up to the occasion.

Yup Toby did get caught. Put some blame on the bench for not alerting him a player was jumping in and would be on a break. He’s human. Still take him on my team 100 times out of 100.

Saw the 3rd on of CHI / TB…nice move with the spin o rama in the SO. As much as I dislike StL and TB, I wanted the goal to stand. Things like that make the competition interesting. Not as interesting as continuing the 4 on 4 to 10 minutes instead of the inane shootout, but watchable.

lemon drop the gloves

March 10th, 2011
7:57 am

congrats to posty on his super solid NHL debut!

World Be Free

March 10th, 2011
8:00 am

Yeah Postma was pretty good-

Mr. Heat Miser

March 10th, 2011
8:02 am

2 game #WINNING streak. Was going to have to break something if Cole won it for the Canes in OT. This lead blowing has gotta stop.

jimbo

March 10th, 2011
8:11 am

Great pass by Hainsey. Good goal tending by Pavs. We’re on the brink, hanging on by the slimest of threads.

Smoothie

March 10th, 2011
8:14 am

I bet Bryan Little is peeved that Paul Postma is trying to steal is nickname. Can the boy hit anymore posts this year? Kid needs an easy one to stay off the milk carton!

Cliff Fletcher

March 10th, 2011
8:25 am

don’s picture and name mentioned in any ajc article—

I think we need to be prepared for a sage post sometime and it should be a doozy.

gretschdrum

March 10th, 2011
8:25 am

In Regard to the ownership and all these new potential buyers. I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a sports franchise for sale that’s attracted this many buyers in this short of a time span. I count six total – the three that Waddell is dealing with, two that Vivlamore spoke of, and one that Kincade talks about. I wonder how the current owners feel when this many people believe they can run the franchise(s) better than they can? I just hope that the Spirit hasn’t messed this up to the point that when people look at their books they throw up their hands because they can’t make heads or tails of the situation. It’ll be interesting to see what the buyers have to say once the diligence period is finished. I just hope the buyers have good attorneys. They’ll need them.

Joe Friday

March 10th, 2011
8:29 am

“All those who wanted to keep Kubina-he looked horrible last night.”

I think he’s lost a step as well, which for him means turtle pace now. I wanted to re-sign him, but looks like it was the right thing to let him go. Kubina = Sopel = Stuart so that all worked out as I’d rather have Stuart now than Kubina. Good job, Duds.

Re. Dvorak, is anyone else underwhelmed by him?

“I like to think that Waddell is in the process of negotiating himself out of a job.”

Yes, that should be the first move of the new owners, but knowing Teflon Don, he’d probably be retained by the ASG to run Philips Arena and the Hawks, or something. Good for him, again, he’s a good man, just stay away from our hockey operations.

moriler

March 10th, 2011
8:32 am

The # of buyers it’s attracted in such a short time should spit in the face of Canadians who want to say hockey can’t succeed here — clearly some of these people know what they’re doing and can say “Hey, the ASG screwed the pooch, that’s why they’re losing money”.

If I had to come in sight unseen to this, I would say “Atlanta should be a great hockey town — if you get the local fan base awake, you’ll be able to backfill the games with all the transplant fans and you’ll be in good shape”. And sure enough, our record-setting (for an expansion franchise) opening season showed it… and then the ASG took over and crapped on the center dot. Screw them, they deserve to lose money.

As far as the game last night, good showing by the boys. I’m not gonna lose too much sleep over that breakaway goal, honestly: it’s a “single-split-second mistake” sort of thing, which is going to happen every so often. Much worse was Thorb’s crappy passing in our own end that led to _TWO_ sustained pressures from Carolina that Pavs had to bail us out of. Those are way, way worse, even though they got a goal off neither.

Well, two points banked. No time to worry about giving points to anyone else, either — we need to just get as many as we can and whoever falls by the wayside does so. Now, time to “win the next one”.

BLUELANDbeliever

March 10th, 2011
8:36 am

I felt that Bogo was a bit lackadaisical with the puck before the Cole goal, but ill cut him some slack considering Cole literally hopped off the bench right behind him. God I hate Erik Cole, he makes me paranoid everytime i see him on the ice.

Zoomo

March 10th, 2011
8:39 am

>> Dvorak, is anyone else underwhelmed by him?
Invisible so far, but he’s a pro and will find a way to contribute.

Postma showed glimmers of some nice skills. I was happy to see him make his debut. He’s one guy that caught my eye the very first prospect camp he attended. He just looked like a find. Big, good low shot, quick skater. Will be fun to watch to see if his development continues and he becomes a solid NHL DMan.

Smoothie

March 10th, 2011
8:45 am

Cole gives Kovy a run for his money in the cherry picking department. Guess Maurice is trying to victimize us as much as possible by letting him roam to get back at us for years of Kovy owning the Canes.

Waddell must be shown to the basement but only this time he can have the damn stapler!

LAC

March 10th, 2011
8:52 am

Joe you are right, Pavel looked really overmatched lat night and has looked slow a lot of the season… Any idea what his offensive nymbers are ? Bet worse than last season here.

Postma, looked solid. I liked the way he cleared a rebound after a save and a Carolina player about to get it, he simply moved the puck to the corner, like any well taught defenseman should.
He needs to have a long look the rest of the season and I bet his play next season, will lead to the departure of zach, who, yet again, cost us a goal by standing around, and NO he was NOT pinching in, he was standing at the BLUE LINE when Stillman took the puck away from him.

Solid game for the most part but Cole continued to waltz around us like we were in cement.
Why is it NOBODY will nail him with a solid check ? He can be taken off his game that way.

Lastly letting Dumb don waddell, discuss the sale of the team is like letting Momar have nukes,
it will destroy anything good that could happen. Don’t let a three year old drive a car and DON’T
let don waddell ruin the sale of the team.

World Be Free

March 10th, 2011
8:54 am

Joe-Kubina and Ohlund were paired together last night, talk about to slothes.

Michael B. Shapiro

March 10th, 2011
8:55 am

I’m with glovesave on this. Sooner the deal is done the sooner D-Wad gets his butt kicked out the back door (we can only hope). As for the Thrash, they played great the 1st period and barely showed up in the third. WTF? The team is bigger than ever before (except “the Shrimp” and “Tim, am I really in the NHL Stapleton” yet they don’t hit nearly enough for my liking. Will be at the Bulb for Friday’s game. Can we make it three in a row guys? In regulation this time?

Bluestreak

March 10th, 2011
8:59 am

Hey Mr. Hide,

What do you think of Kincade’s info on the “Balkan” wanting both teams and the arena? He seems to be the only one with the info, but he’s been dead on a couple times before so it seems like he does have insider access at some level.

Rawhide

March 10th, 2011
9:05 am

What do you think of Kincade’s info on the “Balkan” wanting both teams and the arena? He seems to be the only one with the info, but he’s been dead on a couple times before so it seems like he does have insider access at some level.

Bluestreak – It’s interesting to say the least. Really though, I don’t have any more to add to what he and C-Viv have been reporting. Like everyone else, I just hope this sale happens sooner rather than later and this franchise can finally get back to moving forward.

Fan from Carolina

March 10th, 2011
9:12 am

Good win for Atlanta. Solid but unfortunately too late again this year. The comments about Kubina and Ohlund are so true. SLOW!!! They are shells of their former excellent selves. Where would the Lightning be without Roloson? 9th? 10th? Yzerman may have made the trade of the year. The Brewer pickup was huge as well. I’ll be pulling for them in the playoffs instead of the Caps. Have to support the Southeast division.

Bluestreak

March 10th, 2011
9:13 am

Agreed. I don’t care who the new owners are as long as they keep the Thrashers the Atlanta Thrashers and put some capital into the team so we can actually bring home a championship (I’d just be happy with a playoff series win!)

SomaAtl95

March 10th, 2011
9:26 am

Beating the Devils would help build some confidence for this team, especially in the part of playing spolier for NJ’s “miracle” comeback. I’m sure after the beatdown a few months ago they want another W from our boys in Blue.
Great to see the Thrashes get another W. Hopefully they can manage some regulation wins so we can make up some lost ground.

SomaAtl95

March 10th, 2011
9:27 am

Oh and Rawhides blog is the perfect place after a Win. The trolls are MUCH harder to find.

GaVaHokie

March 10th, 2011
9:38 am

I was very impressed with Postma last night… he had a few hiccups, which was expected, but overall he was great positionally. He looked very comfortable. We’ve been struggling all year to find someone who pairs up with Hainsey, and I thought he played well with Ron.

Alan R.

March 10th, 2011
9:46 am

Food for thought: Erik Cole is a free agent on 1 July. Currently 31 years of age, and makes $2.9m.

Any takers? ;)

Russ

March 10th, 2011
9:46 am

I was very disappointed when Kubina didn’t re-sign. I can’t say I’ve watched him play a lot this year, but just looking at the numbers he seems to be doing fine. Compared to Tampa’s young stud d-man Hedman, they each have 3 goals, Hedman has two more assists, Hedman is +3 while Kubina is +2, and Hedman plays about 1:30 more per game. Like I said, I haven’t watched him a whole lot, but his numbers look solid.

james c.

March 10th, 2011
9:48 am

This is great news…PLEASE ATLANTA FANS BUY LOTS OF TICKETS TO REMAINING GAMES!!!Look at the difference it makes when the team plays before a large crowd at home or away.

Spud Webb

March 10th, 2011
9:48 am

Cole, only 31, seems like he’s been around for 20 years.

ranallo10 (in AT)

March 10th, 2011
9:52 am

You totally got me again … I figured a 5:19 am post would somehow avoid getting lost due to a new blog, but them you up and post a new blog at 6:46 am EST. Jerk. I think you do this on purpose.

ZAvalanche

March 10th, 2011
9:55 am

Nice win thrashy, wish I could have seen it. And who the he!! would put DW as the MC of the discussions? Um…….yeah…….

SomaAtl95

March 10th, 2011
9:57 am

Interesting article from a Yotes fan about the constant Troll attacks (Thanks Alan for the link) http://www.fiveforhowling.com/2011/3/9/2041107/no-this-situation-is-nothing-like-winnipeg-quebec-or-hartford
Change the cities from PHX to ATL and its nearly parallel to what we have been dealing with.

ZAvalanche

March 10th, 2011
9:59 am

Great article Soma, true in nearly every aspect.

jimbo

March 10th, 2011
10:09 am

No surprise that there would be a number of suitors when 1. the current owners have demonstrated that they have absolutely no clue as to how to run and promote a professional sports franchise 2. They sound desparate to sell and 3. There is a proven demand for hockey as evidenced by the attendance in the first year of this franchise. The terms and price will obviously be the key deterinants along with league approval. All point to an optimistic end of the sorry ASG saga.

Charlie $heen

March 10th, 2011
10:09 am

The Thrashers have tiger blood dripping from their fangs.

js

March 10th, 2011
10:14 am

Hurry up and get the sale confirmed so the rest of us can buy our season tickets again.

World Be Free

March 10th, 2011
10:21 am

Cole-always liked him, good New York State boy. Seems to come up big late in games.
Kubina-I like Pavel too, was disappointed at the time when they did not resign him. But you could see the possibilty that he could lose a step. Looked awful late last night.

Hedman is a kid like Bogosian-but he is going to be a star.

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
10:31 am

Amazing thought train here. Dvorak has played in four games after playing 277 straight games in Florida. It takes time to adjust and he is not a scorer, never has been. Stuart is -3, want to get rid of him, too? Wheeler off to a good start (despite the penalties last night) but it takes time to get used to new surroundings. Need I remind you about MacArthur. These guys aren’t robots, give them a little time.

It was nice to see a well-rested Pav back between the pipes. Last night was his 23rd game in which he has made 30 or more saves, and he has a record of 11-6-6 in those games this season, with a save percentage of .969.

glovesave29

March 10th, 2011
10:36 am

I was thinking the exact same thing Alan – looking at the list of UFA’s and he’s the one I would target…other than Bryzgalov, but I gotta think that CHI or TAM will go after he and Vokoun with an open wallet.

Alan R.

March 10th, 2011
10:42 am

Glovesave – If nothing else, we pick him up, and he’ll no longer be the bane of our existence!

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
10:47 am

glovesave29

Tampa maybe, but Chicago may want to continue with Corey Crawford and keep some cap space available. He has been pretty darn good since kicking Turco to the pine. I would be shocked if Burke in Toronto doesn’t make a strong play for Bryzgalov.

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
10:51 am

Cole will stay in Carolina unless Rutherford just doesn’t want to pay him $3 million. He’s 32 and probably will take another two-year deal to stay in Raleigh. He seems very comfortable in his role there.

Iron League 13

March 10th, 2011
10:52 am

Way to go Stapleton!!! Maybe his grit goes a bit further then I ever thought, I hope so anyways. I pegged him for a career AHLer, not out of spite, but out of production and age. I think this is 2 goals in about 7-10 days. Very nice.

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
10:55 am

Sopel’s wife is opening a boutique in Chicago. Maybe he’ll take a hometown discount to be the 6th or 7th d-man there?

http://lifeofahockeywidow.typepad.com/life-of-a-hockey-widow/2011/03/the-unveiling-of-our-boutique.html

glovesave29

March 10th, 2011
11:00 am

RL – not sure Crawford is the answer. They had one on Niemi, and me thinks they have learned their lesson. If I am a free agent, I go for CHI looooong before TOR. They are up against it with regards to the cap, so a trade would definitely have to be made.

One word came to me about Postma last night – poise. And that is a nice trait in a young d. Now his playing time did diminish as the game went on and the Hurricanes kicked it up a notch – but that’s likely Rammer protecting the kid. Let’s see what the progression is this week. Anyone know when Buff is back?

Joe Friday

March 10th, 2011
11:03 am

“Dvorak has played in four games after playing 277 straight games in Florida. It takes time to adjust and he is not a scorer, never has been.”

Actually, it’s been my observation that when a new guy comes to a club, you get a quick dose of jump out of them for the first 5 games. This goes back to the days of Dean Sylvester coming up and potting a hattie for us. Then the play tails off. I know Dvorak isn’t a scorer (still trying to figure out that dang icing thing and offsides, what up with that?!?), he was brought in to play on the PK . . . underwhelmed. Shocking that’s all we could get for a Bergfors, but that speaks to Bergfors. I don’t see any future for Dvorak here.

Rawhide

March 10th, 2011
11:10 am

Food for thought: Erik Cole is a free agent on 1 July. Currently 31 years of age, and makes $2.9m. Any takers?

Alan R. – Might be worth the cost and could be worth at least 4 more wins for us in the season…because HE’S not beating us. :grin:

You totally got me again … I figured a 5:19 am post would somehow avoid getting lost due to a new blog, but them you up and post a new blog at 6:46 am EST. Jerk. I think you do this on purpose.

ranallo 10 (in AT) – Yup, you’re on to me. I wasn’t gonna post anything until lunch time today… but when I got up this morning & saw your post, I whipped together a quick post just to “ranallo” you. :cool:

On a very serious note….I cannot even begin to tell you how good it is to see you posting again here. Having you, ZAvs back…sniff…it’s kinda like old times again.

Joe McGrath

March 10th, 2011
11:12 am

Instead of winding up on a slap shot and advertiszing so an opponent can move into the shooting lane and block the shot, Postma uses a wrister and throws the puck through traffic toward an unsuspecting Ward. Outstanding.

Hockey Biltong

March 10th, 2011
11:12 am

Postma +1. Nice defensive effort. Still ungodly scary at times.I was cringing in my chair through most of the 2/3 periods.
I can’t wait for some more solidifying between teammates.
I saw TB/Chi as well. Could it be Kubina is playing hurt? He was very strong a couple of games ago on Centre Ice at home. He was never fast but he was hitting to beat the band….

Hockey Biltong

March 10th, 2011
11:14 am

Rawhide: Cole for 3 years and Nittymaki or someone similar.

Smoothie

March 10th, 2011
11:18 am

Surprised no one is talking about Schremp getting the Bergfors treatment last nite. Score a goal early and then ride the pine for the last 25 mins of the game. I know he was on the ice for the first GA, but he didn’t seem to be that out of position. He may have been floating a bit, but when your wingers typically get too deep into the circles at the same time and it’s easy for the opposition to cycle the puck to the point, wide open shots will happen. Tough bounce for Toby on the block and right to Bodie. Thought Schremp looked great with Kaner and Stapleton on the cycle in the first half of the 2nd period so once again, Ramsay befuddles the masses.

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
11:28 am

Troy Bodie had only three shifts after his goal.

ThrasherTim

March 10th, 2011
11:32 am

Well, by Sunday, we should know if there is any real hope this season for Games 83 through 86. Nice to get a couple of wins and see the Rangers lose, by figure we need a minimum of 4 of 6 points, maybe more to realistically stay in the race. It will be painful if NJ takes us in regulation and pass us because of you know who.

I thought Stapleton played his best game so far — of course, that’s not that hard, but maybe potting a couple recently will help him free up a bit now. Speaking of freeing up, Little needs a break, doesn’t he? Someone please count the posts over the last month. Ridiculous.

Postma was both good and bad…a couple of very poor passes, but a couple of solid plays. I thought too, that he at least looked comfortable.

AtlFlamesFan

March 10th, 2011
11:34 am

I’d like to see more PP time, and ice time in general for Schremp. He has a gift of offensive instincts. His goal last night was a result of him doing what comes naturally to him. I still have not figured out what caused both Edmonton and the NYI to give up on him.

Smoothie

March 10th, 2011
11:40 am

R/L – and your point is? ;)

Both teams shortened their bench, but inexplicably, once again, Ramsay favors Stewart, who was dreadful last nite, Thorburn, who has been non-existent offensively, and Antropov, who refuses to shoot the darn puck. Usually, Rammer is good about a chance for redemption, already Schremp is getting not a one?

Smoothie

March 10th, 2011
11:42 am

“I thought Stapleton played his best game so far — of course, that’s not that hard, but maybe potting a couple recently will help him free up a bit now.”

Stapes also made a great play getting the puck deep and feeding Kaner on the doorstep for a point blank chance. Alas, Kaner can’t buy a goal. He and Little are vying for featured billing on Bill’s milk carton.

AtlFlamesFan

March 10th, 2011
11:48 am

@Smoothie
Yeah, I didn’t play close attention, but thought that Schremp was missing. Are we trying to get rid of players who can put the puck in the net?

ThrasherTim

March 10th, 2011
11:50 am

Agree with Smoothie regarding Stewart. I thought Ramsay was supposed to be a good teacher by Stewart cannot win a board battle EVER and get the puck out of our zone. And he constantly takes his stick off the ice when trying to chase the puck in the O zone. Dude! You can’t move the puck if you can’t touch it. Ridiculous. He should be on our 3rd line at best – which is where he will likely be next year.

Russ

March 10th, 2011
11:53 am

I apparently missed what ever happened to Cormier. Can someone help me out? Is he hurt, down in Chicago, or being a healthy scratch. If the answere is anything other than hurt, I can’t believe he can’t earn a spot ahead of some of the forwards that are currently playing. If the team has already lost faith in him the return on Kovy keeps looking worse and worse.

AtlFlamesFan

March 10th, 2011
11:54 am

Totalling up the distance from the net of both of Stapletons recent goals can’t be more than 24 inches. The guy can skate in stickhandle, but couldn’t shoot the puck through a paper bag. He should have considered a career in the Ice Capades.

As for Stewart, he has the opposite problem. He can shoot the puck, but can’t do anything else with it (like stickhandler, or even catch a pass). Its got to be frustrating to the D, whenever trying to get the puck out of the zone, to pass it to Stewart, who then immediatly loses the puck.

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
12:05 pm

Cormier has an upper body injury (concussion I think) and remains sidelined.

So, it’s Jersey, at Philly, at Jersey and Philly during the next week coming off back-to-back wins for the first time since Jan. 2 & Jan. 5.

Including this season, the Thrashers are 38-44-10 vs. Atlantic Division teams during the past five seasons, 4-5 vs. Philly in their last nine, and 3-7 vs Jersey in their last 10.

Perhaps this is a bit too much to hope for, but I would love to see 15,000 screamers in the stands tomorrow night. AT-MO-SPHERE!

World Be Free

March 10th, 2011
12:07 pm

Anyone soften their stance on the Chara / Max Pacioretty incident?
Just curious-I have watched the tape 10-12 times, enough to see both sides of the suspend or not suspent arguments. Milbury and Jones make me sick on Verses,

alex

March 10th, 2011
12:08 pm

don’t be to fast in conclusion. let kubina get one or two bad games. guy you are sport guru and understand everyone even greatest sometimes get bad nights. same accurate for postma, please don’t jump in his bus. 9 min. playing time in one game saying nothing if he nhl player or ahl player. bogo got full season of great games, still we not sure he is not the bust. i keep my breath, waiting for sale. this going to be like resurrection from cancer tumour named asg for both atlanta franchise. finally, last to who didn’t see messi goal for Barcelona with arsenal. go to YouTube, just magic.

Smoothie

March 10th, 2011
12:15 pm

World Be Free has been saying it from Day 1, Stewart is lousy. Apparently, he scores and backchecks just enough to keep the likes of Schremp, Bergfors, Burmistrov and Antropov out of the top 6. For awhile I started to warm to him, but the last two months have soured me on the brotha from the same motha as Chris Stewart. To wit:

Stewart is a -8 in the last 16 games and has not scored a goal since the Rangers win 10 games ago. He’s been as absent as anyone lately, but he’s been sloppier with the puck recently and he doesn’t win nearly enough wall battles like ThrasherTim says.

Joe Friday

March 10th, 2011
12:22 pm

“For awhile I started to warm to him, but the last two months have soured me on the brotha from the same motha as Chris Stewart.”

Yep, WBF had him pegged early. I was a backer of his but have seen enough.

Good observation on Schremp riding the pine. I don’t get it. The thing I noticed was after he looked so good with that PP unit that the next PP we got, Ramsay did something weird like throw Kane, Antropov and somebody out there and they did absolutely nothing. I have no clue what Ramsay’s MO is, and don’t care anymore, just want a new owner, new coach, new 1st line center, and new #1 dman (I don’t ask for much).

R. Stroz

March 10th, 2011
12:23 pm

Stewart is 6′2″ of powder puff pansy.

Smoothie

March 10th, 2011
12:30 pm

Joe F – have no idea what the thinking was as Schremp had one bad shift and it wasn’t as dizzyingly bad as some of Bergfors wimpy lost battles or Stewart’s befuddling gaffes along the wall. And you’re right, he scores on the PP, then gets no PP time after that as Rammer rolled out Antro, Kane & STEWART! for the first half and then Ladd, Lits & Wheeler for the next wave of pathetic.

Speaking of Stewarts, did y’all see Chris’ mesmerizing break-in goal where he dangled like Afinogenov and then tucked it with speed on the backhand top shelf where momma hides the viagra? Wow, just wow.

World Be Free

March 10th, 2011
12:32 pm

alex-My earlier posts were just my observations from last night’s game against the Black Hawks, though I have seen Kubina a couple times this year without really being enthused about his play. He may be hurt or moving on the downside. Like others, i would like to have seen him return to the Thrashers this season.

Stewart needs 4th line time, or better yet, a view from the pressbox. Addressing right wing has to be a priority for Dudley this summer.

Joe Friday

March 10th, 2011
12:52 pm

“have no idea what the thinking was as Schremp had one bad shift and it wasn’t as dizzyingly bad as some of Bergfors wimpy lost battles or Stewart’s befuddling gaffes along the wall. And you’re right, he scores on the PP, then gets no PP time after that as Rammer rolled out Antro, Kane & STEWART! for the first half and then Ladd, Lits & Wheeler for the next wave of pathetic. ”

that was it, it was Stewart. I just sat there shaking my head in disbelief. Shremp and was it Little and Ladd on the first PP that scored, looked awesome together and clicked, and then he comes back on the next PP with Stewart, Antropov and Kane? If anyone can’t see that Ramsay isn’t an NHL head coach, I’m not quite sure what they’re watching, that move is mind boggling, but he’s been doing it all year.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2011/03/10/pacioretty-hit-police-investigation.html

Speaking of not paying attention, at least the cops are stepping in where the NHL turned a blind eye (can’t be suspending Chara!).

AtlFlamesFan

March 10th, 2011
1:20 pm

I still say the Chara was doing a hockey play; just rolling a player into the boards. It just happened in a bad place on the ice.

AtlFlamesFan

March 10th, 2011
1:22 pm

Has anyone ever heard of law enforcement getting involved when a visiting player gets hurt? Just wondering?

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
1:27 pm

Nice quote from Canes GM Jim Rutherford about Ladd, as told to Manasso for nhl.com

“The stars have to be stars to win Stanley Cups, but if you don’t have guys like Andrew Ladd — the nuts-and-bolts guys that are willing to do the tough parts in games when games are tough — you’re not going to win them,” Rutherford said. “That’s what he did for Carolina and Chicago.”

R. Stroz

March 10th, 2011
1:29 pm

AtlFlamesFan – Yes, the Bertuzzi incident

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
1:37 pm

R. Stroz: That was a home game for the Canucks.

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
1:41 pm

Dino Ciccarelli became the first NHL player to go to jail for an on-ice assault.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1067721/index.htm#ixzz1GDurL3pc

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
1:48 pm

Here’s another more complete list from Wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_in_ice_hockey

EA

March 10th, 2011
1:59 pm

We need a huge crowd tomorrow night.

World Be Free

March 10th, 2011
2:01 pm

Red Lght-in watching the Black Hawks last night, all I could think of was how much better they were when the had Ladd, Versteeg and Buff especially Ladd.

glovesave29

March 10th, 2011
2:02 pm

Thought alot about this one. I DEFINITELY am against the court system becoming involved in this one. This is an internal matter.

I’ve watched the tape ad nauseum. Chara has a clean history, such is true. But he has the rep around the league as a dirty player. He was deeply involved in the fracas a few weeks back between these two teams. There’s your motive. But his history is clean with the league, so a lighter sentence would have been justified. LIGHTER – not non-existent. Any check that causes a broken vertibrae and a severe concussion MUST come with some sort of league mandated suspension weather intended or not. Looking at the tape, I certainly see intent, but agree that Chara is probably remorseful that the injury is as severe as it is. IMO, Chara meant to rough him up…send a message. Players are aware of where they are on the ice. He knew turnbuckle was there.

Smoothie

March 10th, 2011
2:13 pm

glovesave – agree with you. If the hit was simply a “hockey play”, then why did the ref deem it severe enough to slap him with five minutes for a call that is normally 2 mins and a game misconduct? There must be some form of accountability even if Chara didn’t mean to break his neck. That’s the problem with the NHL, wildly inconsistent adjutication of justice that just sparks further controversy when there should be set fines / punishment / suspension for certain types of hit and resulting injuries. Just like real life.

AtlFlamesFan

March 10th, 2011
2:35 pm

In the event that a penalty results in an injury, the referee must give 5 minutes. So he had 2 choices: either no penalty or 5 minutes for interference.

ZAvalanche

March 10th, 2011
3:40 pm

After watching the Chara hit a few times I really don’t think it warrants suspension. Yeah, it was brutal but only because of where it happened. And as hard as it is for me to say this, I do not feel it deserved a penalty based only on the fact that had the same thing happened 2 feet further down the boards and the guy skates away just fine then it is considered good defense. I don’t think there was intent to injure on the play. That may make me sound like an arse but this is a hitting league and Chara was well within the rules.

That being said, I really hope for a good recovery and hope the guy can play again. Makes me bummed to see anybody go through that type of thing, especially somebody with a talent that makes the rest of us envious.

Smoothie

March 10th, 2011
3:51 pm

My argument on the Chara/Pacioretty incident in a nutshell:

“This latest decision is not on Murphy and Campbell as much as it is on the system and the standards the NHL uses to police itself because that system is inadequate for today’s game. The game is faster, the players are bigger, these incidents occur at a lightning pace, and the players are seriously injuring each other at a greater rate than ever before. They understand that and have stated so repeatedly.

“There are also more suspensions than ever before, but they are obviously not serving as a deterrent because these incidents keep happening, The only way to get the players to change their behavior is with tougher discipline. That is not happening. And so the injuries will continue and they will continue to be severe — and this was the most frightening one yet.”

From Stu Hackel of SI.com: http://nhl-red-light.si.com/2011/03/10/nhl-out-of-touch-on-pacioretty-chara-decision/

Cornbread

March 10th, 2011
4:01 pm

Schremp sat because he was irresponsible in his own end. Maybe he has not learned the Thrashers system yet but more likely he does not have a defensive mindset or worse does not want to play D. (Do you think that may be the reason he was waived by the likes of the Oilers and Islanders?) He was the center on the play. He went below the goal line when both Enstrom and Bogosian were already there on one man. A huge mistake. Instead, he should have gone to the high slot or top of the crease but made the fatal error of floating to the half wall and point that was already covered by Stewart. A blocked shot by Enstrom found its way on the tape of a wide open in the high slot Fourth Liner Bodie for his first goal of the year.

The Thrashers system is very simple in their end when the other team has possession and a shot opportunity – Front The Net! Had Schremp done his job Bodie likely would never have gotten a shot off. He was wildly out of position not once but multiple times on the same shift. If he is not going to play responsible in his own end then he should sit for the rest of the game like he did because the likelihood of him hurting his team is greater than him helping. PP time is earned. Any points he may have got on the first PP goal were quickly squandered on subsequent shifts. Do you want to skate figure 8’s and not play the game the way it is supposed to be played which you are very capable of playing? Sit on the bench for the rest of the game. Good move by Coach Ramsay.

As an old D-man there is nothing that drives me crazier than lazy forwards who don’t know or care about playing defence in their own end. When a goal is scored – likely due to them – they are the first to look at the D like it was their fault. Coach Ramsay knew whose fault it was on a goal that never should have occurred and he made him watch and learn the rest of the game.

World Be Free

March 10th, 2011
4:16 pm

The issue with Chara is his size-a hit by a 260# player carries more force that a hit by your average size NHL player. I don’t know what the avergae size is today, but he’s the biggest. So I guess the feeling may be – “pick on someone your own size”.

ZAvalanche

March 10th, 2011
4:17 pm

@ Cornbread

I agree, a lot of forwards don’t their defensive jobs, especially RWs and LWs. Many of them are looking for that pseudo cherry picking opportunity rather than playing D. I have many years of play at both positions and I have found that the teams that win have players that compete at 100% for all 200 ft of the rink.

ZAvalanche

March 10th, 2011
4:19 pm

WBF, yes being a bigger player has advantages and disadvantages, and I would rather be hit by Minni-Me than Chara. But I do not see his hit as being outside the lines of the rules.

Cornbread

March 10th, 2011
4:29 pm

As far as Chara goes, he is one of the greatest D-men in the world. He knew exactly where he was on the ice and knew he had an opportunity to drive his opponent into the turnbuckle. That his arm came up on to his head is no different had he did so 10 feet down the ice and he drove his head into the glass there.

Whether he intended to get his arm up or not on the play does not matter. Just like high sticking, you are responsible for your actions. The focus for the past couple of years has been on head shots and getting an arm high. Injure a guy and you are going to be gone, unless you are a “star” on an “elite” team. Don’t injure a guy and you are Trevor Gillies on the lowly Islanders you are gone for 10 games.

I had this same argument last night with an ex-pro D-man. He said his eyes lit up every chance he got to drive a guy into the turnbuckle. He didn’t back off either. Chara knew what he was doing. Case closed. The NHL in their dirty double standard makes the world think they are the WWE turning a blind eye when one of its main charachters drives an opponent into the turnbuckle. That’s the most outrageous thing about these on-and-off-ice episodes.

ZAvalanche

March 10th, 2011
4:32 pm

Totally off of subject, but considering I will possibly be a GA resident again here soon, I think we should make a team. LAC would definitely be our enforcer, Glove, well yeah, obviously goalie. I will play any position but am most experienced at D (scoring D, lots of speed). Somebody put out line combos, I am waiting…..

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
4:34 pm

With Kovalchuk coming to town tomorrow night, how about some trivia about some of their ex-players? Of the following seven, Heatley, Kovy, Hossa, Savard, Dupuis, Belanger & Brunette, which former Thrasher has the most assists and the highest plus/minus rating vs. his former club?

Which one has the most goals? And which is the only one not to score against his former club?

ZAvalanche

March 10th, 2011
4:43 pm

Cornbread, I may be wrong here (very possible) but after watching it several times I don’t think that was his intent. I think it was a hockey move and he did what most of us would have – rub the guy out. Just was in the wrong spot. Chara is a phenom, and will be a HoF’er when he is done. I really don’t think he meant to hurt the guy.

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
4:43 pm

ZAv

Pre-game speech: Brendan

glovesave29

March 10th, 2011
4:51 pm

Look at what Chara did after the indecent…skated away – mission accomplished. If it WAS an accident, human nature takes over and you are looking at a human being who’s body you just destroyed. You would be distraught. Look at Brian McCann yesterday at spring training. TOTALLY an accident… yet he could not concentrate afterward, took a feeble 3rd swing so he could leave immediately to be with Salazar.

I 100% agree with Cornbread. You ALWAYS know where you are on the ice. You also know the ins and outs of every arena. Where the boards are stiffer, where the glass is lower….EVERYTHING. This is nothing new, think of the days when NHL arenas were not standardized. Home teams use them to their advantage, as does a veteran team on the road. Even a beer league goalie like me takes extra shots and skating time when playing at a place like The Mic up in Marietta, as the surface is shorter and thinner.

Cornbread

March 10th, 2011
4:57 pm

Glad some are finally seeing what Tampa Bays greatest weakness is, their D and play in their own end. They don’t want to play there and it is why they play a horrible 1-3-1 and even uglier 0-4-1. Get the puck in deep on their slow and non-mobile D, gain and maintain possesion in their end and you can beat them.

World Be Free

March 10th, 2011
4:59 pm

Zavs-
Minni Me = Stapleton?

Smoothie

March 10th, 2011
5:02 pm

I’ve been saying it about Tampa since October. Surprised it took so long for their D to show this many cracks. It will be their demise in the playoffs no matter how much Boucher tries to trap and hold. And Roloson isn’t the answer. Kubina with Ohlund?? Yikes.

Cornbread

March 10th, 2011
5:14 pm

I liked Postma’s game. Very mobile on the blue line and showed some poise with the puck in his first NHL game. The biggest surprise is that it looks like he has gotten bigger. That’s a good thing for a lancky just turned 22 D-man. 6′3″ 195 pounds? He looks taller and heavier than that. I think there were some clicking issues with his teammates but I think that was the case overall with the Thrashers new line combos last night. They just were not as sharp as they have been.

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
5:14 pm

So the Lightning give up 21 goals in their last nine games and that’s a sign of cracking? 2.33 GAA

The problem has been lack of scoring…15 goals in 8 of those 9 games, and then the blitzkrieg of 8 goals against Phoenix.

Cornbread

March 10th, 2011
5:17 pm

I agree Smoothie and that is why I like anyones chance against them in the play-offs – even at one point if that were the Thrashers.

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
5:17 pm

Their defensive corps is challenged, but take away 15 or so games in which they have given up a ton of goals, they still look pretty darn capable overall.

Smoothie

March 10th, 2011
5:21 pm

Guess I was thinking more about February when they gave up 24 goals in a span of 8 or 9 games. Honestly, I stopped paying attention to them once we stopped having to lose to them! ;) I guess the lack of scoring has been their bugaboo lately as you’ve pointed out, but I would not feel too good about going in to the P/O with an aging corps of D-men that features Ohlund, Kubina, who always fades down the stretch it seems and Clark. Apparently the acquisition of Brewer has helped some but they are only 4-3-2 since the trade. I still won’t pick them to advance from the 1st round quite yet. Hedman needs another year and more help IMO.

Cornbread

March 10th, 2011
5:36 pm

RL and so it goes for the Thrashers in their woes as well. The difference is when teams are not allowed to enter Tampa’s zone and get shots off. 4 guys in the netral zone and one D-man skating in his end for a dumped/chipped puck is uglier than any trap NJ played. They are not good in their end and it is where you have to beat them. But first you must get the puck passed the center line and dump it deep. A lot of teams are puck possesion teams and don’t like to do that. Where they make their mistakes is turning it over to Tampa in the neutral zone only to be counterattacked. That option has to be taken away from them. Atlanta actually did that pretty well in three of the games against them this year without the results they may have deserved.

I’m not sure how much of a fan I am of a penalty being called for teams having more than 3 guys in any one of the two zones between the blue lines or all 5 guys in the NZ when a team does not have control of the puck and is in retreat. But, it may be the only way to stop the ugly hockey by less overall talented and deep teams like the two teams in FL.

Otey

March 10th, 2011
7:06 pm

Cornbread says:

“I’m not sure how much of a fan I am of a penalty being called for teams having more than 3 guys in any one of the two zones between the blue lines or all 5 guys in the NZ when a team does not have control of the puck and is in retreat. But, it may be the only way to stop the ugly hockey by less overall talented and deep teams like the two teams in FL.”

I would love to see a rule like that. One of the problems with hockey is that the rules and size of the rink make it difficult for superior players to distinguish themselves. There are too many legal ways for mediocre players to clog up the works. That is a main source, I think, for hockey’s inability to gain a wider audience.

Hockey needs to find a way to allow great players the room to show off their greatness. The current rules skew outcomes in favor of players who are simply grinders. Which makes hockey much less exciting than it should (or can) be.

Red Light

March 10th, 2011
10:01 pm

Huge OT win for WBF and Spud Webb tonight. Down 2-0, the Sabres recover and win 4-3 at Boston, pushing them into 7th place, with the Rangers. They’re tied with 74 points now but the Sabres have two games in hand. Leafs lose 3-2 to Philly, so the Thrashers remain one point behind them for 10th.

LAC

March 10th, 2011
11:47 pm

Nice win tonight by St.Louis over Montreal 4-1. Funny when the announcers said Montreal had NOT played in St.Louis since 2001 ? How could that happen ?

Zombie Steve

March 10th, 2011
11:59 pm

If Chara did that on purpose, then it was a terrific acting job. Didn’t look intentional at all. As far as Chara just skating away stoically, when was the last time you saw a hockey player show remorse in a game for anything that happened on the ice?? It just doesn’t happen.

World Be Free

March 11th, 2011
6:18 am

Red Light-Broones have protected their 3rd period lead every game this season, except 3-all come from behind wins for Sabres. Boston better not get BUF in the playoffs, Sabres owe them for last season’s exit. Boyes pickup looking pretty good right now.

LAC-very nice win for St. Louis, the trade with the Avs looking pretty good right now I would say.
Chara did not look back, really didn’t know who he was hitting until well after the incident. I am turning my focus to the design of the arena. If the league and players are going to address the turnbuckles, then they need to get rid of ALL the seamless glass too. Hitting that stuff is like hitting a brick wall. Philips Arena has the traditional glass, gives alot more. I was skating there recently and “hit” the glass in a few places, gives real nice.

Worst color commentators? Any commentators that complains about the refs. They are right most of the time, even though I don’t really like the new post-lockout rules. Andy Brickley whined the entire game last night about the calls in the BUF-BOS game. Get over it you hack.

I think the pont on Tampa’s defense is that it is going to have to be better if the Lightning are going to go anywhere in the playoffs. It’s OK at best in the regular season and Roloson was darn good against the Black Hawks.

lemon drop the gloves

March 11th, 2011
7:58 am

LAC-i don’t know how it could happen that a team does not play in a town for 10 years. all teams should never go more than a year w/o playing in each other’s barn. the canadians recently went 5 years without playing in chicago. during the nhl’s 75th anniversary season they did not play in chicago. these are very poor scheduling decisions by the league. original 6 teams should play each other home and home every year – period.

Dwayne

March 11th, 2011
8:08 am

Federal Agents looking into the Evander Kane knock out of Matt Cooke.

Red Light

March 11th, 2011
8:14 am

Traded Players Update:
Stillman: 2 goals and 3 assists in 6 games for the Canes.
Kaberle has just one assist for Boston in 9 games.
Fisher 1 goal and 3 assists for the Preds in 13 games.
Versteeg: 4 goals and 1 assist in 12 games for the Flyers.
Rozsival: 1 goal and 1 assist in 20 games for Yotes.
Wojtek Wolski: 5 goals and 11 assists in 26 games for the Rangers.
Peverley: 1 goal and 1 assist in 6 games for Boston.
McCabe 2 assists in 6 games for the Rangers.
Boyes: 3 goals and 3 assists for the Sabres.
Chris Stewart: 9 goals and 3 assists in 12 games for the Blues.
Erik Johnson: 2 goals and 2 assists in 8 games for the Avs.
Craig Anderson: 6-3 with Ottawa allowing just 13 goals.

World Be Free

March 11th, 2011
8:35 am

Red Light-let’s add Peverly’s goal post in OT last night in the Buffalo-Boston right.
Brad Boyes ended the game shortly after-
And how?- going to the net, you have to go to the net.

Are you listening Anthony Stewart?

Hockey Biltong

March 11th, 2011
9:55 am

Siva posted on Vivs blog that the old couple on kiss cam; one of them, the fellow, is sick….so think good thoughts for them….

Rawhide

March 11th, 2011
10:50 am

:!: RANALLO WARNING!! :!:

This is your official 10 minute Ranallo Warning.

New blog to be posted in 10 minutes.

R. Stroz

March 17th, 2011
10:29 am

Rawhide

March 17th, 2011
10:42 am

R. Stroz – Nope