Loss to Senators just more of the same for Thrashers

After last night’s most recent setback for the Thrashers, there were a lot of familiar lines coming from the losing locker room. It’s understandable I suppose…there’s really only so many ways you can describe yet another loss that materialized in much the same way a number of game have previously.

To illustrate this, let’s play a little game this morning, shall we? We’ll call this “The Now or Then Quote Game”. Basically, I’ll give to a few quotes that were attributed to players or the head coach following a loss. All you have to do is guess which one was said after last night’s 3-1 loss to Ottawa or after a previous defeat.

Oh, and no cheating, gang. No flipping back through previous game reports to match the quote with the game. Try to see if you can do this on your own.

OK…here’s the first group of quotes to play with:

1. “We all feel frustrated…we talk so much about shooting the puck at the goalie’s feet, and then we shoot it into his mid-section”

2. “It’s frustrating. We’re losing these games and we’re losing ground in the standings.”

3. It’s frustrating. We feel we are playing OK. But we are not getting the job done”

Losing can be “frustrating”, and that’s been a very common word used in the Thrashers locker room recently. One of those statement came from coach Craig Ramsay flowing the 3-1 loss to Montreal earlier in the week while the other two were offered up by Chris Mason…one last night and the other last Friday to sum up his thoughts about losing to Florida in a shootout.

As the Ottawa Senators celebrate one of their goals, Thrashers defenseman Zach Bogosian seemingly looks to the heavens trying to figure out a way to describe this latest defeat (AP Photo/John Amis)

As the Ottawa Senators celebrate one of their goals, Thrashers defenseman Zach Bogosian seemingly looks to the heavens trying to figure out a way to describe this latest defeat (AP Photo/John Amis)

Here’s another set of quotes for you to choose whether it came last night or some time ago:

1. “I thought we played extremely well and unfortunately…”.

2. “We’ve been doing a lot of good things lately”.

3. “We played good. We should have won”

4. “I think we are playing extremely well…but you still have to score”

Yeah…I know. This is a pretty tough game to play, isn’t it? One of those quotes came last night, one was offered up following the 5-3 loss in Edmonton, another came following the 4-2 loss to the Flames and one from the Montreal game on Tuesday.

But really…you could mix and match up any of them and attributed them to any one of several games since the All Star Game.

Read for round three? OK then, here is another crop of quotes following Thrashers losses recently:

1. “I think perhaps we need to take more pucks to the net with our big bodies”.

2. “We didn’t go to the net hard so he probably saw every possible shot”.

3. “We’re putting the puck on net, and sooner or later it’s bound to go in”.

Are ya dizzy yet?

One of the above quotes came from Nik Antropov last night, one from Ramsay after the loss to the Habs and the other came after the defeat in the desert to the Coyotes.

For five straight games now the Thrashers have put 40 or more shots on the opponents net. Unfortunately all they have accomplished by doing it has been to greatly enhance that goalie’s saves percentage numbers. They are 1-3-1 in those five games and have found the net just 7 times while taking 214 shots.

Heck, Fredrik Modin was able to pot 7 on just 51 SOG while a member of this team.

And now, one last group of random quotes for you to ponder. Again, unless you’ve memorized all of Chris Vivlamore’s post-game reports, I think you’ll have tough time figuring out which one came from what game.

1. “We found a way to play another great game… We did what we wanted to do. We were very aggressive. We showed some real speed up the ice. Then, pucks didn’t go in again”

2. “When you’re going through these stretches, the key issue probably is to try to score a couple early and get everybody on a roll, get everybody feeling good about what’s going on, not saying, ‘Oh my God, here we go again’”.

3. “It just seems like one little breakdown and it ends up in the back of our net”.

4. “Seems like it’s the same story after every game. There’s an intangible that’s missing, and we need to find out what that may be. We keep losing games and losing points”.

Two of those quotes came from coach Ramsay, one from last night the other after the loss to the Panthers last week. One came from the mouth of defenseman Zach Bogosian as he sat in his locker following the Senators game.

The fourth quote is credited to now-former Thrasher Rich Peverley while out in Phoenix. I would dare to speculate he doesn’t need to worry about his current team needing to find that certain “missing intangible” component.

OK, so I gave that one away.

Playoffs? P-Playoffs? Are you kidding me… playoffs?

Continuing with our Fun and Games Friday theme…I leave you with this last simple question to ponder. Do you believe that the Thrashers postseason hopes evaporated in the wake of an embarrassing loss to a team sitting at the bottom of the conference standings?

I would argue that the answer is, “Yes…yes they most certainly did”.

However, I would contest that it wasn’t the most recent debacle that sealed their fate, but rather it was a couple weeks ago when they blew a 3-1 third period lead in losing to the Oilers. And all that we’ve witness since then is simply the residue that came from that heaping, steaming pile of FAIL that was dropped on the ice in Edmonton.

After that demoralizing defeat, I remember thinking to myself that was the type of loss a team just does not recover from. At least, that is, not one that the head coach has labeled as “fragile”…and especially not a team in which said coach has displayed no ability to properly address the problems plaguing the team.

What was once “A bounce here or a bounce there…”, for John Anderson has now been replaced with Ramsay’s “We played hard and did good things, but…”. Because of that, as this season winds to a close I would suspect we should prepare ourselves for more quotes from he and his locker room that read much like those found above.

“We didn’t go to the net hard so he probably saw every possible shot”…

“It’s frustrating. We’re losing these games and we’re losing ground in the standings”…

“I think we are playing extremely well…but you still have to score”…

“It was very somber at the moment. That was a game we felt we should have won”…

“It just seems like one little breakdown and it ends up in the back of our net”…

“We didn’t go to the net hard so he probably saw every possible shot”…

Etc, etc., etc…etc…

147 comments Add your comment

R. Stroz

March 4th, 2011
11:36 am

R. Stroz

March 4th, 2011
11:46 am

I have another game to play, fill in the blank..such as

The Thrashers couldn’t score at …………..

Here are a few examples to get you started…

The Thrashers couldn’t score at a cougar convention after Bon Jovi played in concerrt.

The Thrashers couldn’t score at an orgy.

Npw, it’s your turn

Mooseberg

March 4th, 2011
11:46 am

No skill, no system, no points, can’t hardly watch anymore = Thrashers

Dwayne

March 4th, 2011
11:48 am

Dwayne

March 4th, 2011
11:48 am

a sex addicts meeting

Dwayne

March 4th, 2011
11:49 am

a empty net 10 minutes after the opposition left the ice

Dwayne

March 4th, 2011
11:52 am

I’m still holding out hope for a miracle. I know that is sad, but i still love the Thrashers….sniff, sniff

:(

March 4th, 2011
11:53 am

Yeah, I have to say I gave up on playoffs after the Edmonton game. The Carolina game happened right after a win so I was still feeling good there, and the Phoenix game was kind of messed up by that questionable goal so the loss didn’t feel as bad. But yeah, that Edmonton game was pretty much it. We can’t even beat the Oilers, the worst team in the league, when carrying a 3-1 lead in the third. And last night showed that we also can’t beat the Senators, the second worst team in the league, when the game is tied 1-1 in the third.

This is getting embarrassing. I’m expecting a lottery pick at this rate.

:(

March 4th, 2011
11:54 am

Wait ii was 2-1 in the third last night, not tied. Whatever. We still suck.

BLUELANDbeliever

March 4th, 2011
11:54 am

Well, it is frustrating. I dont understand why this is happening. Granted last nights play wasnt the best but Tuesday was just a dagger in the heart. COME ON GUYS! QUIT WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO STEP UP! SCORE DAMNIT!!!!!!!!! LETS GO

Putting On The Foil

March 4th, 2011
12:00 pm

In total agreement Rawhide. I alluded to these same type quotes on a previous blog (yours or Viv’s, don’t remember), but for a coach who over-analyzed every aspect of the game when the Thrashers were winning earlier in the year, these quotes are almost comical when they are losing.

Matt

March 4th, 2011
12:01 pm

This team is absolute garbage. Just pathetic. I can’t find a single silver lining.

Always Hoping

March 4th, 2011
12:01 pm

…….a Bingo game for the blind!

World Be Free

March 4th, 2011
12:03 pm

Kinda reminds me of a line from “The Natural”

“Losing is a disease”

Hey Rawhide, thanks for the Jim Mora quote. Another one my favorites from Jim, after a loss-
“We didn’t do diddly poo out there today”.

“Playoffs, are you kidding me? I just want a win. Don’t be talking about playoffs!”

ZAvalanche

March 4th, 2011
12:06 pm

The worst game for Thrashy was not the drubbing by Toronto. I agree with blog master that the end came in the loss to Edmonton. Good teams, on average, win when heading into the 3rd with a 2 goal lead. Do I think everybody on the team has given up? No. Hockey players aren’t like NFL or NBA players and take their pride very seriously. We just don’t have the horses for the race.

SportsFan

March 4th, 2011
12:07 pm

The 50/50 ticket draw last night was $256….nice to see the fan support is alive and kicking! lol

Mr. Heat Miser

March 4th, 2011
12:08 pm

Glad I watched this “Brutally Good” game from the confines of my couch last night.

Always Hoping

March 4th, 2011
12:13 pm

“The 50/50 ticket draw last night was $256….nice to see the fan support is alive and kicking! lol”

Even funnier was the “Scana Energy Hot Seat” game was done during a Ottawa power play. The only consolation was the “hottie” playing the game.

A close 2nd was the $5 Home Depot Gift Card handed out during another game.

Stan Drulia

March 4th, 2011
12:29 pm

Yep, the Edmonton game was pretty much the final nail in the coffin. If someone would have told me in December that we weren’t even going to get the eigth spot I would have laughed in their face. Was sure this time was for real. They let me down again. And then to top it all off with this ownership garbage???!!! Man, tough times being a Thrashers fan right now.

Sage of Bluesland

March 4th, 2011
12:32 pm

It looks like Mr. Heat Miser is finally getting it….It’s been years, I’m sure, but welcome to reality and sanity.

Nice article, RH–but it’s funny how the more things change in Thrashersland, the more they stay the same.

Precisely why I laugh at the “all we have to do” tactical-proclamations which are nothing more than fools-gold…submitted by fools, too.

The problem is purely strategic in scope and effect. Ownership-management and talent-evaluation-acquisition-preparation…It’s funny how the “Legends of Blueland” never really make an impact on the parent-club, isn’t it?

I’ll give the odds at one-year before the peanut-gallery starts criticizing the signing of Big-Puff…

(Yep, the more things change, the more they stay the same….Some just “know all along” a little bit quicker than others…)

Hand Ov Thrawn

March 4th, 2011
12:32 pm

After watching the last few games, we couldn’t even beat the Gwinnett Gladiators.

Not Blind

March 4th, 2011
12:33 pm

I see one of the problems – accountability. They say “WE”. They need to be saying “I”. “I didn’t go to the net” “I didn’t play hard in the corners” “I didn’t hustle to back check”. If the individuals not doing all the things needed to be successful would admit it maybe the shame would make them try harder next game.

Hoof Arted

March 4th, 2011
12:35 pm

In what may be a feeble attempt to pull this fine blog out of the gutter, let me respond to R. Stroz’s game bay saying, “The Thrashers could score at….a point in the schedule when their season depended on it”. Because that has been exactly the case these past few games.

Oh and BlogMaster, is it too late to change my vote last week from “Wait until the season is over” to “Fire Ramsay now”? Yeah it may be too late to salvage this season but it’s clear he simply has no response for the Thrashers problems now.

Shawn@GSG

March 4th, 2011
12:35 pm

I can’t even watch the games anymore – too pathetic. I just wait for the scoring alerts to go off from my phone while I do something more constructive. Maybe we need Charlie Sheen to buy this team to start “WINNING” ha ha…

Monkey

March 4th, 2011
12:36 pm

Left the game early last night…not as early as the players. Not fun anymore.

Only thing getting to the game tomorrow is a tailgate in the Gulch with friends.

Thrashers27

March 4th, 2011
12:38 pm

Yep, I’m hangin ‘em up for the season. In the words of the eternal Cubs fan…”next year”.

R. Stroz

March 4th, 2011
12:42 pm

The Thrashers couldn’t score at a bowling alley with bumpers blocking the gutters.

Alan R.

March 4th, 2011
12:42 pm

The Thrashers couldn’t score at tee-ball.

ZAvalanche

March 4th, 2011
12:46 pm

SOB, man, I am glad I don’t live in your dark world. Yes, having a sucky team, well,…………sucks. Not having a team sucks more. If you wont support them through rough times you cannot b!tch about the prospect of losing them. If you only want to support good teams then go defecate on some other team’s blog.

Hoof Arted

March 4th, 2011
12:47 pm

These Thrashers probably couldn’t score on last year’s Thrashers.

Tell me again Bruce Levenson, are we moving in the right direction?

World Be Free

March 4th, 2011
12:49 pm

Stan, there’s a couple losses this season that I would look at as the of no return. The loss in Edmonton was certainly one that you could look at for sure. I thought the Carolina loss, 2-1 a few sundays back was the real back breaker–47 shots and one goal. In Edmonton, a clear case of not being to hold a lead, against Carolina, a case of not being able to close the deal. Discipline is major issue here.

And it’s the old Brooklyn Dodger fans that used to say “wait till next year”. Took them 65 years to win a World Series.

Rawhide

March 4th, 2011
12:53 pm

Tell me again Bruce Levenson, are we moving in the right direction?

Hoof Arted – The only way this organization will be “moving in the right direction” is when Bruce and the rest of the ownership cluster move out of the picture.

(Coach) Lawrence Welk

March 4th, 2011
1:06 pm

Wunnerful, Wunnerful. Tonight our top line features the lovely Lennon Sisters, while Bobby and Cissy dance in defense. And now, until we meet again – Audios, Au revoir, Auf Wiedershen. Good night everybody!

Hoof Arted

March 4th, 2011
1:09 pm

What did Mark Stuart say when he came off his 4-day drinking binge?

“I signed a three-year contract with WHO…?”

Joe McGrath

March 4th, 2011
1:33 pm

Any of you regulars have advice on how I can get the cheapest ticket for best seats. Please, no jokes about “stay home, it’s not worth it” etc. We’re attending because I’ve promised all year we’d see a game. I’m monitoring Stub Hub, and I’m only seeing lower bowl seats for about $39 (currently). SHould I hold out.
And on a second note, my second team, the Nashville Preds, shutout the Canucks in Vancouver 3-0 to leap into the 7th palyoff spot in the WC.

Wayne stuck in AL

March 4th, 2011
1:43 pm

I gave up on this team exactly a month ago; I’m surprised no one else has either.

Craig Ramsay = John Anderson.

Diddly Poo

March 4th, 2011
1:50 pm

The Thrashers don’t even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as me…they are beyond diddly poo, they are wretched excrement.

Thrashy Thrashy

March 4th, 2011
1:53 pm

being Thrashers head coach = hopeless situation

Dustin Byfuglien

March 4th, 2011
1:54 pm

I stood still and waited for Toby to collect the loose puck so I could move up the ice, but it went in off my skate. I’m going to get new skates with shorter blades.

Joe Friday

March 4th, 2011
2:00 pm

Good to see Coach Ramsay’s new system is working great. Wait, what?

Good to see the Buf got so lucky to have that shot go in, after all he shot is so hard! Wait, what?

Great to see Enstrom allow it all to happen for Buf with that fantastic pass he made to him getting the primary assist, I can’t believe Oduya, Hainsey, Bogosian and Stuart can’t get any assists passing to Buf. Wait, what?

Playoffs have been out of the picture for quite some time. There’s still a good young core here, hope in the new ownership that should be in place by next year, and if we can sign a couple top end guys with the new owner’s money and get a real coach, then next year should be looking good.

Alan R.

March 4th, 2011
2:13 pm

The Thrashers couldn’t score at pinball.

The Thrashers couldn’t score at an empty net

ben

March 4th, 2011
2:17 pm

@Mr. Tiller,
these owners have been emotionally, psychologically, and intellectually out of the picture for a long time. We need them financially out as well.

Jason

March 4th, 2011
2:18 pm

The Thrashers couldn’t score at baseball (admittedly, I get confused on how to properly record foul outs in my scorebook as well).

Smoothie

March 4th, 2011
2:24 pm

Joe McGrath – just wait it out my friend. I got two in 122, row L yesterday late morning for the Sens game for the whopping low price of $10 each with printing & “admin” fees. Saturday may be a bit higher demand but you should be able to do better than $39 the day of.

HockeyGoon79

March 4th, 2011
2:24 pm

It’s a cryng shame to look at where this team is after where they were at the midpoint of the season, a total disgrace. Ramsay has had more than enough time to turn this around and he’s proven he can’t.

Crying shame, it is.

Smoothie

March 4th, 2011
2:29 pm

Joe – the only reason we scored is because #5 knocked Wheeler into Anderson. If he wasn’t so green, he’d know that Wheeler wouldn’t have tipped it anyway and probably would have skated to the other side so Anderson would have a clean view of the shot.

Smoothie

March 4th, 2011
2:45 pm

“The word of the afternoon in the potential sale of the Thrashers, Hawks & Philips…OPTIMISM Significant progress being made towards offer!”

From John Kincade’s lips to God’s ears we hope!

Anyone around here know what the word “optimism” means though? Sage?

Acer

March 4th, 2011
2:51 pm

I’m already sick of Kincade’s Eklund style rumors. His latest tweet can be interpreted in many ways.

SomaAtl95

March 4th, 2011
2:51 pm

I tweeted in my own frustration last night as the game progressed:
First Period: Tonights Thrashers game brought to you by AT&T – because Atlanta keeps telegraphing their shots on goal.
Second Period: The Thrashers should call Stella and talk. They need to get their groove back.
Third Period: It’s good the Thrashers have The Home Depot as a sponsor… they’re experts at digging holes.
After Mason allows yet another point: Mason, why can’t you be more like Opie?
and after hearing McConnell say “The Thrasher need a pair” I laughed and told my wife, “Yes they definitely do need a pair, they aren’t playing like it” and was just so disgusted that I stopped caring about hockey for a little while.
I love the Thrashers and want them to stay in Atlanta, but after this string of games I feel like I have “Battered Fan Syndrome”, we as fans can only say for so long that the Thrashers are better than this before we give up on them.
Hopefully the ownership situation is fixed in this off season – if we suck this bad in the future we need to not worry about Canada wanting our team, they actually want teams that know how to win or at least some expectation of winning.
Tired of Atlanta staying “Loserville”

40yrs

March 4th, 2011
3:24 pm

Sitting at the game last night I started wondering what it takes to get the fans to boo this team. Are we that used to bad hockey that is all expect?

I read the local news of the city I grew up that has a hockey team and when the fans think they are not playing well or showing no effort they boo. When the period ends they sarcastically cheer.

I say we need to let the players know how unhappy we are. Not by staying home but by BOOING AS LOUD AS WE CAN!!!!!

I still have my bag don’t make me use it again.

Tom

March 4th, 2011
3:37 pm

I would love to give sympathy to the players, but it is impossible.

They have shown that it is not a matter of skill, it is a matter of desire.

As fans we can not affect this. We can only watch lackluster efforts.

The coaches and the players can impact effort. Not the Fans.

Keep The Thrashers

March 4th, 2011
3:45 pm

Another sad finish for frustrated Thrashers fans. Hopefully, we can get new owners and move on to a new chapter in Atlanta NHL history. Eight years with the Flames – they won two playoff games. Thrashers are even worse – made the play-off only once – ZERO play-off game wins. Why does the national press pick on Atlanta hockey fans? Even die-hards are close to dying with the past decade of poor performance. New owners – PLEASE SEND HELP! We love hockey, but we can’t take it anymore.

DWTOO

March 4th, 2011
3:51 pm

Soma – Heard McConnell too – LMAO! Never a truer statment made. Fortunately heading on vacation for two weeks and won’t have to be subjected to this abuse. Think the coaching staff has lost control. While not the most talented team in the league we should be plating better. Time for a change – my opinion is now different from last week’s blog.

R. Stroz

March 4th, 2011
4:05 pm

At least the marketing group is aware that it’s time to prepare for golf.

http://philipsarena.com/Content/view.aspx?CID=485da0c8-9a78-4702-a38e-af90474d7fbc

Alan R.

March 4th, 2011
4:07 pm

Stroz – Is that a Par 3?

LAC

March 4th, 2011
4:08 pm

Simply a very sad state of affairs, Will there be a next season at this point ?

LAC

March 4th, 2011
4:08 pm

AlanR.. Putt-Putt would most likely ?

kj

March 4th, 2011
4:13 pm

These Thrashers couldn’t score at a women’s prison with a pocketful of pardons.

SomaAtl95

March 4th, 2011
4:15 pm

They’re making Beavis and Butt-head look like a couple of stone cold pimps.

R. Stroz

March 4th, 2011
4:26 pm

The Thrashers new pitch for UFA’s:

Sign with Atlanta, the weather is great in April and we will supply the golf balls, if you don’t have a pair.

Smoothie

March 4th, 2011
4:29 pm

Stroz – thanks but I’ll pass. I want ProV1s at this point. Although I’m surprised they didn’t cheap out on the golf balls and go with TopFlites or Pinnacles. Personally, I think they should have gone with Pink Lady balls since most of our guys “need a pair”. Hardy har har.

Steve Miller

March 4th, 2011
4:30 pm

“Your Thrash ain’t nothin’ but trash”.

Player to be named later

March 4th, 2011
4:37 pm

It is obvious that the most important event in the Thrashers’ future is the same of the team to someone who cares about hockey. Kincade tweeted about the poor attendence last night, which only goes to prove how much he is out of touch with reality. 11 seasons of poor hockey would turn off fans in ANY city, including Toronto. Saying Atlanta fans are poor because they don’t show is not try, it just means they are smart.

Sage of Bluesland

March 4th, 2011
4:37 pm

“What did Mark Stuart say when he came off his 4-day drinking binge?…I signed a three-year contract with WHO…?”

Now THAT was funny!

Bree Olson

March 4th, 2011
4:38 pm

The Thrashers couldn’t score at the AVN Expo in Las Vegas :)

HonkyTonkHero

March 4th, 2011
4:41 pm

I used to do everything imagineable to get to a game or watch it on TV. I would put my kids in the tub and throw the laptop up on the sink and glance at the game. I would turn Kamal on the radio and listen while I tended to house stuff. I would pirate the jumbotron feed from some guy’s internet feed in Switzerland. Not anymore. Now I just look at the score at the end of the evening…knowing damn well what it will look like. I am hard pressed to even dedicate the time to watch the Condensed Game on NHL gamecenter.

For crying out loud I choose to watch “The Parking Lot Movie” last night instead of watching the game! And I am glad I did…the movie was a trip! These parking lot attendants had more dedication to their low paying jobs than these millionaires on ice do.

This year my frustration is worse because I had higher expectations from Dudley, Ramsay and the crew they brought in. If I go to any more games this season its gonna be just to see the players on the other team. As it is…if I get to the arena early I always find myself hanging out on the visitors side of the warmup. My team simply does not intrigue me enough. They have let themselves and us down.

Cheers to 2011-2012 and new owners…hopefully

Hugh Hefner

March 4th, 2011
4:43 pm

The Thrashers couldn’t score at my house!

Jack Kevorkian

March 4th, 2011
4:49 pm

I’m available……..

Zombie Steve

March 4th, 2011
4:51 pm

Rawhide – I would contend that our playoffs hopes were done shortly after Buff was resigned; when we got ASG’d.

Mr. Heat Miser

March 4th, 2011
4:56 pm

Maybe Rammer will lace ‘em up and score a goal or two……

Red Light

March 4th, 2011
5:27 pm

Here is what good teams do…they begin to play their best hockey when it matters!

No. 2 in the East Boston
Have won seven straight games since being swept by Detroit, are 17-6 since Jan. 10 and have not given away a loser point in their last 15 against Eastern Conference foes.

No. 3 in the West San Jose
They have won 8 straight and are 17-2-1 in their last 20 games.

No. 4 in the West Chicago
They have won 6 straight games and are 8-1-2 in their last 11 games.

No. 5 in the West Los Angeles
They are 7-2-1 in their last 10 games, and went 6-1-3 in a recent 10-game road trip.

SomaAtl95

March 4th, 2011
5:31 pm

Down the stretch we in Atlanta are used to watching our boys do their best Linda Lovelace imitation. McConnell said a pair was needed last night because the Thrashers had choked pretty hard.
Pun intended.

Iron League 13

March 4th, 2011
5:37 pm

Busy day, new gig and off to dinner I go with the family. Anyways, I’m glad you (Rawhide) posted all those quotes, I just started noticing how it was always the same BS in 8/10 situations coming from Ramsay. Geez put a fork in it, at least Antro said something about going to the net, which makes me ask…why isn’t he playing like the east-block monolith that he is?

Sam

March 4th, 2011
5:55 pm

Things started to go down when Enstrom went off and due to that loosing streak mental problems are still there and they are just shooting puck to goal without aiming at all nor waiting somebody to be screening.

Donovan McNubb

March 4th, 2011
6:00 pm

Kudos to Rawhide for finding a creative angle at a time when it’s just “same old, same old” after every game.

I agree that our playoff hopes probably evaporated long before last night’s debacle. Right now, the only thing keeping me going is watching the new guys and seeing how they might fit in for next season.

Wheeler is a legit top-6 guy, I think. With him, Kane, Little and a resigned Ladd, that’s a solid four out of six in my opinion. Now if we can only find a No. 1 center and another right winger to play behind Wheeler…

I love Burmistrov but he’s probably a couple years away from being at that level. Antropov is fading, though I’m not a hater like most commenters. Yeah, he’s slow as molasses but he has some of the best hands on the team.

Nate

March 4th, 2011
6:58 pm

The Thrashers couldn’t score in a wh*rehouse.

John in PA

March 4th, 2011
8:09 pm

I’m starting to wonder if we actually have “A good corps of young talent” on this team afterall? I mean, there are certainly some servicable players on this roster, but are any of them really deserving of being called “Core” players? Enstrom…yes. Buff? Hes not an especially effective D-Man. Certainly he can bring it from the point offensively, but does anyone out there really think hes a top line D-Man? I’m not so sure… Little would be a great complimentary piece on a good team, but he’s not a “core” player IMO. Kane….I dont know. I love the guy, but I’d probably have to put him in the same boat with Little, for now at least. Kane could be a great player IF/WHEN he realizes he can also take the puck to the middle of the ice when entering the O-Zone. I mean Damn! Has anyone bothered to tell the kid that the entire league now knows he will only try to pass their Dmen by going down the boards at the blueline?!?!?! The day he starts to try going towards the slot, and get away from the boards is the day he might make the jump to the next level…until then, hes just a good player on a bad team…
Also…this team does way too much stick-checking, not enough bodies on bodies checking. The opposition never seems to get pressure from us other than our guys waving their sticks wildly at the puck when its on the other guys stick…

LAC

March 4th, 2011
9:15 pm

Go Bree Go !!!! At least Charlie is scoring these days !!!

Sage of Bluesland

March 4th, 2011
9:26 pm

I think John in PA brings up an interesting point. I also hear about how ‘great’ this young core is that we have. I’m not buying.

Heatley and Kovalchuk as rookies in 2001-2002 is what having good young players to build around looks like. They consistently ‘delivered’, even as green-as-grass rookies. There was something ’special’ about them–and their talent was superior and undeniable.

I don’t see the consistent deliverables with any of the new kids we have. Not even close.

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March 5th, 2011
6:26 am

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World Be Free

March 5th, 2011
7:13 am

Here’s another problem with this team-most of the players are signed for next season. They are not playing for contracts like other players in the league. Sure don’t look hungry, do they?

Iron League 13

March 5th, 2011
7:23 am

Sage, I can’t fully disagree with you on the talent of Kovy and HE WHO CAN NOT BE NAMED vs the current Thrashers, I can’t FU-LLY. I think the fact that they actually have outplayed or teams lately CUZ THEY HAVE seems to say two things to me, we have something to build around and we need 2-3 solid additions at forward. Nothing too big needs to be added, I’m saying 2-3 Ladd-ish caliber players. Not too much to ask for either, at least not with new owners.

Anywho, you notice that I said we have pieces to build AROUND and not on. Kovy and HE WHO CAN NOT BE NAMED were building blocks, foundations to be built ON. What we have now is different. Get those pieces I mentioned, send the AHLers and yearlings down to the AHL (as they should be until needed), you know BUILD AROUND THEM. These types of pieces can be moved, scratched, whatever… they are for the time being replaceable, again call them as need be only. I don’t want to talk about building on anyone until the organisation gets the farm system orchestrated to fit it’s needs and DOESN’T rely on young draftees and “prospects” to account for so many spots in the dressing room.

Come to think about it the built on and built around thing is feeble at best, disregard it as poorly constructed nonsensical crap. Still most of what I said is sensical, file this self-debunking bit under sensical too. Odd, I know. I don’t wanna hear about tin foil hats and sneeking into cpu labs at the institution. Spare me, I’ve heard it.

Iron League 13

March 5th, 2011
7:27 am

What I forgot to say about the team as is, is that yes they can play to an extent. Out shooting opponents in the last 5 games or so is very telling. THEY SIMPLY CAN NOT FINISH ENOUGH. That’s why I say get 2-3 more 20-25 goal scorers (ie, Ladd-ish forwards) and watch this team perform VASTLY BETTER in the standings.

Frosty the snowman

March 5th, 2011
7:42 am

I agree this team is a bunch of grinders, a few complimentary pieces. I dont see a solid core myself and am always wondering about this solid core that keeps bieng mentioned.This team needs a SERIOUS infusion of TALENT to be competitive.

jimbo

March 5th, 2011
8:12 am

Good article Rawhide. Gallows Humor is in full swing. I do think that we’ve got a lot more young talent than we’ve ever had but they are “leaderless”. When the Captain and Asst. Captain had to go th the Hockey Whisperer and tell him to crack down, that signalled that he was in fact, TERMINALLY CLUELESS. If his after game press conferences have been filled, the Lite Beer folks have enough material for several years. Time to move the ole Hockey Whisperer to an assisted living facility.

sisu

March 5th, 2011
9:26 am

The playoff run ended a long time ago, I think it was a home loss to Philly. At that point things were still good. While it is fine that you guys say fire the coach, riddle me this? Who do you think should be the next coach?

Couple of items to consider: Antropod is not recovered from surgery or is having his typical year, your choice. Buff stopped taking 102 mph slap shots and replaced them with wristers. One goalie will not carry the season when he can play lights out and then all of the sudden allows 2 goals or more in under a minute.

Frank G

March 5th, 2011
9:56 am

” Wars are not won by evacuation!” The enemy is the other cities ready to pounce and take our team! I understand the frustration the past several years..BUT…A top 4 pick in the draft(some great hockey players top 4), seasoning of our kids (which realistically they ONLY are), Torchetti taking the helm, new owners bankrolling 1-2-3 top 3-6 guys,2011/12 all of a sudden looks promising! “When you feel like giving up, remember why you held on for so long in the first place!” Long Live Blueland!!!

Bob

March 5th, 2011
9:58 am

The thrashers can’t even score at air hockey.

Adam

March 5th, 2011
10:25 am

If Rammer and Torch swapped positions is it possible that he’d still have any credibility with the players? Understandably he’d have to be behind the move 100% and let Torch do his thing but I’d hate to see him go. I just believe he’s a carrier assistant type guy and not head coach material. I really think Rammer has a lot to offer and I’d like to see him involved as a coach just not the bench boss. With all of the young players on this team he could really help with their development.

Hockey Puck

March 5th, 2011
10:34 am

Thrashers couldn’t score at a Charlie Sheen Party!

Adam

March 5th, 2011
10:47 am

Sisu – I’ve said this about Antro several times last fall. He came back at least 2 months early, if not 3. He should have been out through camp and not tried to get into game shape until November. The only reason he started the season is because of how his salary effects the team’s cap floor position. AS couldn’t afford to still pay him and replace his cap hit. I truly hope this doesn’t affect him long term and shorten his career, he deserves better than that. He signed here at 29 and is 31 now in his 11th season. If healthy I think he’s capable of 3-4 more 30-60 point years of positive +/- play.

Mr. Heat Miser

March 5th, 2011
10:48 am

For those of you going to the Thrashers game tomight, your ticket will get you into the AAA Hockey USA vs. Canada game at 1:00 at Philips.

ZAvalanche

March 5th, 2011
11:15 am

Congrats on the new gig Iron! I think this team is fine shooting from the outside, where they are lacking is with bodies in front to pick up the garbage and screen. I also believe a healthy Thrashy with one high quality play maker, one power forward and a bit more size on D would be a really good team. Don’t forget, they played well earlier. They are just a bit too young to brush off a few crushing losses and don’t the fortitude to just say “you win some and you lose some” and then move on.

LOL @ Hockey Puck! Too bad Sheen went off the deep end, I kind of liked that show…..

World Be Free

March 5th, 2011
11:17 am

Kovalchuk is on fire, the benefits of the Kovy trade to Atlanta are diminishing ever. Lou looks pretty smart right now, both in the trade and the long term contrtact.

Ramsay’s coaching style is much like his personality. He’s always been a talker not a yeller, he’s make a great next door neighbor. I am not sure how that translates to being an NHL coach. What is odd is the fact that Rammr played for both Scotty Bowman and Punch Imlach. Neither Hall of Fame coach can be labeled player’s coaches, but they both won multiple Stanley Cups with veteran players. Their players did not like them, but they played for them. So it makes you wonder why he has not used some of their proven tactics to get his players going. Even John Anderson used the press box as a learning tool, Ramsay has not done this yet to any degree.

Players’ coaches work in baseball, a long season with many ups and downs. But football and hockey need coahes that aren’t afraid to use the wip every once in a while. Ramsay will not and it may be his undoing.

World Be Free

March 5th, 2011
11:27 am

Guess I should proof read beffore I post…..

Dwayne

March 5th, 2011
12:00 pm

Lou Lam is the reason for Kovy’s resurgence, is Lou gonna coach him for the remainder of the contract????

northern exposure

March 5th, 2011
12:24 pm

Ramsey has got to go. We have squirt teams with better break outs than this team. 2 – 4 passes D to D then unload to oppostion in nuetral zone, go for line change, start over. What are the center ice men for? Lets go north all the time not 3 steps east and west then one south and panick. Buff is talented but only in the right places. Too many mistakes on defense, no confidence handling puck, makes Toby get all loose pucks, nerver hits anyone in defensive zone, Another Ramsey bad decision. Needs to play forward where he can utilize his strength and not kill the team if he loses the puck. Did Ramsey even see last years playoffs and hear that Buff was about 3 or 4 in consideration for MVP? What was his role? Why try reinvent the wheel?

Brendan

March 5th, 2011
12:28 pm

Not that it matters any, but I officially called the ‘time of death’ of the playoff berth after the Oilers game. Nice to see so many finally agreeing with me on that score.

Rawhide, I couldn’t matchup any of the quotes correctly. Are you publishing an answer guide, for those playing at home?

Brendan

March 5th, 2011
12:38 pm

Red Light, you’re far better at this than I am, and I’m too lazy today to look it up, but during this stretch of 30 games, isn’t it ESSENTIALLY TRUE that we’ve lost to every bottom feeder team in the league? Florida, Toronto, Edmonton, NYI, Blues, etc. Did we even play Minnesota? It’d be an interesting mini-study to take the bottom 10 to 12 teams, at present, then look to see what Atlanta’s record is against those very teams. It might prove enligthening. My suspicion? I think we missed the playoffs because we couldn’t bank points against the bottom feeder teams. I don’t care what our record is with Philly, Boston, Detroit, Montreal, Pittsburgh, and San Jose. We should lose to most of those teams, with frequency. And that’s understandable.

What’s our record with Buffalo, Toronto, Islanders, and Devils, before Devils caught fire, etc. That’s where the season went. And, my aplogies to Rawhide, but he was correct in stating that … the lack of results falls on the Coach, Craig Ramsay. I see that, now. I guess I didn’t want to hold him accountable for the league minimum budget and roster he was given. I know it’s easier to bank points in October, November and December … than it is in February, March and April, but this team isn’t so vasty different in its makeup then, compared to know. Percentage-wise, this club has taken on so much water than we’re now splitting up a flounder.

Brendan

March 5th, 2011
12:40 pm

Trixie, I’m back in the filters again, with an apology to Rawhide.

R. Stroz

March 5th, 2011
1:22 pm

Stop Yelling Knights

March 5th, 2011
2:13 pm

Stendec got banned right? I prefer to think that his head actually exploded when he witnessed the ‘gutless piece of ‘ you know what effort that we are seeing nowadays. Compared to previous years what he thought was gutless was actually jump on a grenade for your sergeant gutsy. Tough to watch but also tough to witness daily reports of people here’s love of hockey being sucked away. Stendec, I hope you are okay. I enjoyed tuning in here just to read your rant after a bad loss but also how proud you were after a good win.

Red Light

March 5th, 2011
2:16 pm

Brendan, I’ve stopped looking at the Thrashers records. It’s over, nothing else to be gained by over analysis except, as they say, paralysis!

So, I guess we all have 35 days to determine how to handicap the upcoming Stanley Cup playoffs. I am preparing diligently this season and have come up with several trends you probably don’t want to ignore…and if you want to play along for some rainy day trivia, here are those trends without the answers.

• Only two Cup winners during the past 20 seasons have had a losing record in March and April (if applicable)

• Nine of 11, and 12 of 20 Stanley Cup winners also have captured their respective division titles during the regular season

• Only one of the last 20 Stanley Cup winners had a leading regular season scorer with less than 60 points (not including the 1994-95 strike-shortened season)

• Only one of the last 20 Stanley Cup winners had a defenseman as their leading scorer

• Two of the last 20 Stanley Cup winners had only 38 wins during the regular season

• The shortest regular season win streak for one of the past 20 Stanley Cup winners was just three games

• The longest regular season win streak for any of the past 20 Stanley Cup champions was nine games, and four teams accomplished that feat

• Only two Cup winners since 1992 (not including the 1994-95 strike-shortened season) finished the regular season with fewer than 100 points.

• Name the only two teams to finish in fourth place in their division during the regular season to finish as Stanley Cup runners up

• Only three Cup Winners since 1990 missed the playoffs the prior season

Jason

March 5th, 2011
3:09 pm

If Toronto has waffles, maybe we should have hot dogs. They do seem to be playing like wieners lately….

Al Michaels

March 5th, 2011
3:37 pm

Do you believe in miracles? Thrashers now SEVEN points out of NINTH place!

Trixie (Rawhide's Secretary)

March 5th, 2011
3:52 pm

Mr. Brendan – Your 12:38 pm has been free from Blog Purgatory.

Mr. SYK – Yours from 2:13 this afternoon has been as well.

Tom Lysiak

March 5th, 2011
4:15 pm

Islanders already won this afternoon.

“Caution: teams in your rearview mirror are closer than they appear”

Thrashy Thrashy

March 5th, 2011
4:26 pm

If you’re gonna go in the tank, you might as well do it properly. We are doing that very nicely this season. We’re gonna get a real nice pick. Sure would be nice if that pick is a big scoring centermen with strong puck possession skills, huh?

Flagstaff

March 5th, 2011
5:11 pm

This year’s draft is pretty shallow– it’d be best to get a draft lottery pick. Now I can watch the team for *fun*– be happy if they win, because they won, and happy if they lose, because they’re getting closer to securing a better pick!

Rightshot

March 5th, 2011
7:07 pm

Is the game online tonight?

Brendan

March 5th, 2011
7:45 pm

Red Light, off the top of my head, I’m guessing the 1999 Buffalo Sabres and 2006 Edmonton Oilers were the two Cup runners up to finish 4th in their division. I’m sure Carolina missing the playoffs before winning it in 2006. My thinking on D-man to lead a Cup winner in scoring is probably Ray Bourque, in 2001, with Colorado. As for a 60-point guy to be a team leader on a Cup winner, I’m thinking NJ, maybe in 2000 or 2003?

Rightshot, the Thrashers game is on Center Ice. For Comcast customers, that’s channel # 780.

Brendan

March 5th, 2011
7:53 pm

Only two Cup winners with losing records in March and April … I’m thinking one of those Red Wing teams, either in 1997, 1998, 2002, or 2008. My thinking there is … they probably had the playoffs clinched in February, that they took their foot off the gas pedal down the stretch. If it’s not the Red Wings, I’m thinking maybe the 1993 Montreal Canadiens? Or maybe the 1994 NY Rangers? I could the Penguins were so dominant in 1991 and 1992, that they could have had losing records in March and April and still won the Cup.

Were the 1994 Vancouver Canucks 4th in their division, Red Light?

Brendan

March 5th, 2011
7:56 pm

Anyone know if the season finale, the afternoon game vs. the Penguins, is soldout?

LAC

March 5th, 2011
8:01 pm

What a terrible start, no effort, listless. The zone time for Florida is has been unreal. We get one long shot and done. No problem clearing the zone against us, none at all. Then Bergfors is flying and sets up their goal, just great. What is the guy’s name we got ???? What has he done, like the TERRIBLE GM Nothing. At one time we led New Jersey by 28 points, now we lead by ONE.
Can you believe that ? Just proves this team is just more of what we fans have had to endure since inception, LOSING. We need a GOOD AHL team here, as can anyone honestly support this half-A$$ product here now ?

Good for Bergfors, I hope Florida stomps Atlanta 6-0.

Hoof Arted

March 5th, 2011
8:33 pm

“Anyone know if the season finale, the afternoon game vs. the Penguins, is soldout?”

Brendan, I’m going to go way out on a limb here and say….

no.

Iron League 13

March 5th, 2011
8:56 pm

ZAv – Thanks for the congrats, I’m working my way back into an industry I left behind almost six years ago. It’s not quite like riding a bike, but I’ll snap back into it soon. Thanks again.

Iron League 13

March 5th, 2011
9:10 pm

ZAv – Sorry for the broken up text, I was distracted. Seems like they’re trying very hard to put pucks on net FOR SURE. I’m pleasantly surprised to see them outshoot their opponents the way they have. Forty or so shots isn’t anything to scoff at, scoring a single goal game after game (especially with those SOG) IS. Definitely need more skates shuffling around the crease and stick blades planted firmly on the ice anticipating those shots.

Rawhide

March 5th, 2011
9:30 pm

Rawhide, I couldn’t matchup any of the quotes correctly. Are you publishing an answer guide, for those playing at home?

Brendan – I guess that would be a good thing to do, eh? OK, here is your answer guide.

First set of quotes:

1. “We all feel frustrated…we talk so much about shooting the puck at the goalie’s feet, and then we shoot it into his mid-section” – Craig Ramsay after loss to Montreal on 3/1

2. “It’s frustrating. We’re losing these games and we’re losing ground in the standings.” _ Chris Mason after loss to Ottawa 3/3.

3. It’s frustrating. We feel we are playing OK. But we are not getting the job done” – Chris mason following shootout loss to Florida 2/25.

Second set of quotes:

1. “I thought we played extremely well and unfortunately…” – Craig Ramsay following loss in Edmonton on 2/19.

2. “We’ve been doing a lot of good things lately”. – Zach Bogosian after loss to Ottawa on 3/3.

3. “We played good. We should have won” –Ondrej Pavelec following loss to Edmonton on 2/19.
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4. “I think we are playing extremely well…but you still have to score”- Craig Ramsay after loss to Montreal 3/1.

Third set of quotes:

1. “I think perhaps we need to take more pucks to the net with our big bodies”. – Craig Ramsay after loss to Montreal 3/1.

2. “We didn’t go to the net hard so he probably saw every possible shot”. – Nik Antropov after loss to Ottawa 3/3.

3. “We’re putting the puck on net, and sooner or later it’s bound to go in”. – Craig Ramsay after loss to Phoenix 3/17

Fourth set of quotes:

1. “We found a way to play another great game… We did what we wanted to do. We were very aggressive. We showed some real speed up the ice. Then, pucks didn’t go in again” – Craig Ramsay after shootout loss to Florida on 2/25.

2. “When you’re going through these stretches, the key issue probably is to try to score a couple early and get everybody on a roll, get everybody feeling good about what’s going on, not saying, ‘Oh my God, here we go again’”. – Craig Ramsay after loss to Ottawa 3/3.

3. “It just seems like one little breakdown and it ends up in the back of our net”. – Zach Bogosian after loss to Ottawa 3/3.

4. “Seems like it’s the same story after every game. There’s an intangible that’s missing, and we need to find out what that may be. We keep losing games and losing points”. – Rich Peverley after loss in Phoenix 2/17.

As you can see, I’m not at the game tonight…busy day/evening with the younger tax exemption’s rifle team. After watching the game I’ll be heading out to pick up the Divine Mrs. R who has been out of town. So, I may not get around to posting a new blog before tomorrow.

Joe Friday

March 6th, 2011
1:20 am

good golly, it;’s darn lucky that Buf wasn’t shootin the puck too hard tonight and that Enstrom allowed it all to happen!

jimbo

March 6th, 2011
7:37 am

This blog has gotten to be hilarious. Hockey Puck- Thrashers couldn;t score at a Charlie Sheen party. Great. WDF- Ramsey would make a great neighbor. Priceless. Stendec sighting?

Red Light

March 6th, 2011
10:11 am

Brendan…Keep trying. You have gotten a few correct, but that’s all I will say right now.

Carolina and the Thrashers don’t play until Wednesday. Meanwhile, NJ plays the Isles and Senators and Buffalo plays the Wild and Penguins (today and Tuesday for both teams) and Toronto plays the Isles Tuesday.

That means by Wednesday, the Sabres could easily be in 8th and the Devils could be in 11th by the time the Thrashers (12th?) and Canes (9th?) meet Wednesday in Raleigh.

Red Light

March 6th, 2011
10:16 am

The concluded five-game homestand yielded five points.

World Be Free

March 6th, 2011
10:31 am

LAC-correct, it was a terrible start by both teams but the Thrashers picked it up in the 2nd period, only to go into a slumber with a 3-1 lead. Good that ATL was playing an AHL team with a few NHL regulars, which is all Miami is right now.
Jimbo-trying to find some humor in a very difficult situation

One real good thing last night- Some hitting! Body checks! Taking the opposition to the boards for their medicine after making a pass. Funny how guys make hasty passes after they have been hit a few times. That’s hockey 101, have known this since I was a kid and it doesn’t matter if you are getting paid to play the game (like these guys) or if you are playing it for fun. It’s the part of the game that has been missing from this team for a long, long time. In the bigger picture, it’s called passion.
FYI-Ben Eager looked pretty good in San Jose last night banging guys around and getting cheers from a non-hockey market-San Jose.

Great to see Burmie back in the lineup last night!

I refuse to even talk about the playoffs for this team, because this is not a playoff team. Get the lottery pick and hope for the best-again.

World Be Free

March 6th, 2011
10:52 am

The Southeast Division will be an interesting place this summer.
Washington will probably not make it to the conference finals, so what will happen in DC? Who will take the fall?
Carolina has a limited budget and a number of key UFAs.
The Bolts have an average defense and Stamkos’ extension talks in the air.

Atlanta-who the heck knows!

Red Light

March 6th, 2011
11:31 am

Spoke with Weaver after the game last night and he expects the rebuild in Florida to turn out quite well. We talked about the Nashville model and he agrees that having a strong middle class of salaried players is the way to go. He thinks the makeover and building through the draft will pay long-term dividends for Tallon, but he also knows that it’s going to take time. Panthers have 10 former first-round picks on their roster (some were injured and didn’t play last night) but at least 3 or 4 of them could be considered busts. But, they have about $40 million to play with if they go to the ceiling and lots of help on the way. By 2014-15, they’ll be fighting for the SE division crown.

Brendan

March 6th, 2011
11:49 am

WBF and Red Light, without getting too indepth, I’m thinking that the two (2) teams in the East that have the most to gain from home ice in the playoffs this year are Tampa Bay and Washington. So, this race for the SE Division title, which TB lost to Montreal in regulation time, could hold the key to this year’s postseason. I’m not trying to be funny, but if Tampa Bay holds off Washington for either the # 2 or # 3 seed, they just might bankroll that into a berth in the CF. Likewise, if either should fail to win the division, looks like the Penguins will be either 4th or 5th in the Conference. I think it’s crucial for either TB or Washington to nail down that # 4 seed, if Pittsburgh will be their 1st round opponent.

I’m not much of a Flyer fan, but I’d have to think that … after last year’s disappointing OT loss in Game Six of the Finals, and Cupless drought since 1975, the Flyers are very, very close to actually bringing another Cup to Philly. If the Flyers could win the East, while nailing down the President’s Trophy as well, their chances have got to be improved. No? Okay, yes. I know. The President’s Trophy winner’s Cup percentage isn’t exactly ideal, but … who wouldn’t want the opportunity of hosting 4 rounds of playoffs? Imagine Philly, with the Flyers winning the Cup and the Phillies taking the WS in the same year. And ya never know about the Eagles, always seemingly a playoff team. Philly fans might be more insufferable than ever!!

LAC

March 6th, 2011
11:52 am

Logically, the only way the Red Wings move East is if Atlanta bumps Phoenix in the relocation to Winnipeg., Per darren dreger on tsn.

On the tsn “discussion” last night Phoenix was THE topic of discussion moving to winnipeg, and that pierre laburn made the case again Atlanta is likely to move as well.

Just more GARBAGE from the Idiots at tsn The STUPID Network !

LAC

March 6th, 2011
11:53 am

Forgot, Nice rebound after a bad first, seemed they got the message, but flubbed it with sloppy play to give Florida a point. Good night for Buff for a change…

Brendan

March 6th, 2011
11:59 am

Red Light, it’s been so long since the Panthers made the playoffs … that they better make it in soon. I think they’re approach is correct, but how long have they been building? They can’t keep players. They have trouble with coaching decisions. Their scouting Dept. may not be up to snuff. And they’re killing off the Miami market for hockey.

It’s time for the Panthers to get ownership that is committed to the project, or it’s all pie in the sky.

ZAvalanche

March 6th, 2011
12:07 pm

I’m thinking that somebody very high up hates every one of my teams this year. Broncos suck, Avs suck and you all know about Thrashy – and they are doing better than any of them! Another embarrassing loss to Edmonton last night. Thrashy lost as well, as you know. And oh yeah, Thrashy, see you at the lottery!

World Be Free

March 6th, 2011
12:26 pm

Red Light-I always liked Weaver, wish we would have kept him though Little basically undressed him last in the game on the 2 goal post rush. Seems like there is less pressure in Miami for the Panthers to “win now” which gives Tallon the ability to build for the future. I think Dudley would like to be able to do that here, which will really make it tough for anyone to judge Duds’ body of work here when it is all said and done.

LAC-agreed, but I wonder who is delivering the message to these players, is it the coaches, the captain or maybe both? They lost the message after Wheeler’s goal in the 3rd, went back to standing around in their own end. Buff the Cream Puff finally woke up after a Rip Van Winkle 2 month slumber. The Canadian press can make all the cases for moving it wants, but if the league doesn’t want the team to move, it won’t. They have no real sense of reality, their only goal is to steal a team.

Brendan on Philly-watching the Flayers lately, I am beginning to think they may have made too many moves and missed the obvious one-a front line goaltender. Buffalo and Tronna, 2 teams out of the playoffs both came back on the Flyers this week in Philly for crucial wins. The Flyers are cruising, there does not seem to be a leader in Philly anymore. If Washington and TB have a chance this year, it’s because Philly has lost their mojo and the Pens are missing too many key players. That being said, the Pens scored a crucial win in Boston yesterday. Nobody stands out in the East, so the conference champ may be a team that gets on a roll with a hot goaltender. That sounds simple, but I think that’s what will eventually happen here.

I went to all the Buffalo/Philadelphia home games in the Stanley Cup finals in the 70’s. As good as the Flyers were back then, there’s no way they would have won 2 Cups without Bernie Parent. He was the difference in the BUF/PHL series, with the Sabres trotting out Gerry Desjardines and Roger Crozier. Fred Shero referred to the Buffalo goaltending tandem in that series as “2 basket cases”.

TB’s defense and goaltending concerns me alot. Tough to rely on an old man in the nets and a defense that just does not thrill me, though I like the addition of Brewer. You wonder if Lecavelier and St. Louis will hold up in a long playoff run as well.

Red Light

March 6th, 2011
12:31 pm

ZAv

The Stewart-Johnson trade has been rendered totally meaningless for this season. You wonder how it will play out in future years. The Blues without Halak (Bishop has been OK) are shadows of their earlier selves, but you have to give the Oilers some credit. They haven’t quit and neither have the Isles or Devils. The Avs and Blues however, seemed to have waived the white flag a week or two ago. Shame isn’t it, but a lottery pick couldn’t hurt either, because neither team is far from being successful.

Red Light

March 6th, 2011
12:34 pm

Don’t worry about the Flyers WBF. They will be heard from again. They had a cushion and now that cushion has disappeared. Hope they don’t show up today! It’s all about the Bruins and Flyers for the Eastern Conference. TB, Wash, Pitt and the Mtl have more holes than Boston and Philly.

World Be Free

March 6th, 2011
12:51 pm

R/L-tough to get that engine started again. They need Briere and Richards to step up and start making plays. That’s what those 2 guys do, they make plays when games are tight.

Any idea what’s going to happen with Drury in New York? I have a feeling the Rangers may buy him out after this season, he is not the player he usta be. But he is a LEADER, a guy you pickup and make captain-he too can make plays, always has been able to.

The Rangers want Richards badly and who knows if Dallas will be able to muster up the kind of offer that will keep him in Dallas. Richards will get at least a 7 year deal this summer, probably $56M-60M total.

Red Light

March 6th, 2011
1:38 pm

I believe we have seen the end of Chris Drury!

glovesave29

March 6th, 2011
1:40 pm

LAC – Pierre LeBrun = Dwayne Klessel.

Doesn’t address the issues of a bad product here, but an interesting read nonetheless…

http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2010/12/8/1536097/nhl-relocation-winnipeg-quebec-city

sisu

March 6th, 2011
1:40 pm

To me the playoffs were smoked on Friday, January 14, 2011 when the team lost to the Flyers 5 – 2 after being tied after 2 at 2…that started the slide. I think if Ramsey was to be fired that would mean the whole coaching staff would be gone, not likely….I like Ramsey and hope he stays!

Alan R.

March 6th, 2011
2:54 pm

The list of UFAs this summer is really, really thin.

I want to see Reasoner back with us, but who else would you all want?

http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/tag/2011-nhl-free-agents/

ZAvalanche

March 6th, 2011
3:09 pm

RL, I have no idea how the trade, Stewy-Johnson, will turn out. EJ seems like he has good confidence and skates pretty hard. I believe he was acquired to replace the ancient Foote who should retire this year. I like EJ’s size, presence and skill. That being said, the Avs have cashed it in as a team. There are a few players still going hard – Duchene, Hunnwick, Wilson, Johnson are simply flying out there. The return of Mueller (concussion, 2 of them) and Fleichmann (pulmonary embolism) next year should be very good though the prognosis on both of them is questionable. However, with the trade of Stewy, we now lack a power forward and it is quite obvious. Pushed around in the corners all of the time. Wait, hey, this sounds like my other favorite team. Mirror images. **sigh**

R. Stroz

March 6th, 2011
6:11 pm

Alan R. – With a few exceptions, the available UFA pool is a garbage pit.

Alan R.

March 6th, 2011
6:41 pm

Stroz – Agreed, 110 percent.

I think if we’re to get any quality players this offseason, it’ll be through trades, or signing people out of Europe/Russia.

Brendan

March 7th, 2011
12:16 am

Who could have thought, back on December 30, 2010, at 20 wins, 14 losses, and six overtime/shootout losses … that win # 27 on the season would come all the way on March 5, 2011. That’s 7-14-5, or 7-19 for 26 games.

What’s left, if anyone cares, is three (3) games versus top seeded Philadephia, March 12 (away), March 17 (home), and March 31 (away). Two games versus Carolina, March 9 (away) and April 8 (home), and two games versus Kovalchuk’s Devils, March 11 (home), and March 15 (away). All on the road are Buffalo, NYI, Montreal, Boston, Nashville, and the NY Rangers. The three other games are home games versus Vancouver, Ottawa, and Pittsburgh (season finale).

In all, that’s sixteen (16) games, six (6) at home and ten (10) on the road. In a way, I’m sure the Thrashers are happy about all those road games. Coming under fire, it may be easier for them to play on the road, as spoilers. Of these 16 games, seven (7) are versus teams currently outside of the playoffs (Carolina twice, NJ twice, the Islanders, Nashville and Ottawa. Buffalo is currently in 8th spot. Carolina is 9th.

So, let me ask you, during this lull before the end of the season and talk of the June Draft, how many wins do you see for the 2011 season? It’s an NFL 16-game schedule now! I’m going with 4-12</strong) I'm going with 31 wins on the season. I think we can go 4-9-3, for 76-points. That would equal the point totals of 2008 and 2009, but would fall short of 2010's 83-points.

Here's what I like about the rest of the schedule. In the role of "spoilers," we can ruin Kovalchuk's bid for playoffs, if that's something that's important to you, as Thrasher fans. Kovy's here on Friday, if you want to go "boo" him. We get the Devils again on the 15th. Do the math on Jersey's playoff bid. If we hold the Devils to only one of those four (1/4) points during those contests, it might be enough to derail their miraculous bid. What about Philly???? There's six big points for Philly that they'll be expecting to bank vs. YOUR Atlanta Thrashers. All of a sudden, Pittsburgh's got a shot at winning the Atlantic and being the top seed in the East, thanks to a 4-game slide by the Flyers. Speaking of Pittsburgh, that's the season finale. It'll be mean nothing, standings-wise for us, but it could decide the Atlantic division championship. Any Predators fans out there, reading these boards? Nashville is currently outside the playoffs. An Atlanta win could keep them out. Ranger fans out there? The difference between making it in and being 9th for a second year in-a-row … just might be that game on the 7th of April, at MSG, where Atlanta typically plays well. Boston probably will win the NE Division. But as the # 2 or # 3 seed? Atlanta can play role there, too. Our playoffs may be over, but we can throw a monkey wrench into the best laid plans of other teams around the league. Vancouver is trying to win the President's Trophy this year. They visit the Bulb on the 25th of March, expecting us to roll over and die for them. They might only leave with one-point, instead of two.

Speaking of the June Draft, there are games that impact the lottery draft vs. the Islanders and the Senators. Right now, Ottawa owns the # 1 overall pick, by one-point, over Edmonton. If Ottawa wins at Blueland, that top pick could go to Edmonton, instead. Of course, it does depend on the pingpong balls. But Edmonton would prefer to have the odds stacked a bit in their favor for the drawing.

Brendan

March 7th, 2011
12:18 am

Alan R.

March 7th, 2011
1:33 am

Methinks the blog software no longer enjoys epic novels, Brendan. ;)

World Be Free

March 7th, 2011
7:33 am

NHL free agency has evolved into NFL free agency-July 1 is no longer the date you can pickup a number of impact players. Tough to find anyone that looks like a top 6 forward, which is what the Thrashers need. The best way to improve is draft and develop, 2 things the Thrashers have never been very good at.

Duds needs to get us away from the Chicago Wolves; sounds like the Panthers and Rochester are about to part ways too, Ted Nolan to head man in Rochester is not happy with the players the Panthers are sending him. Good ‘ol Teddy, good hockey man but he’s never happy.

Rawhide

March 7th, 2011
9:34 am

Brendan – I was able to retrieve your midnight opine from Blog Purgatory. Unfortunately, I did so just after a new blog was posted up.

Brendan

March 7th, 2011
1:37 pm

Oops. Didn’t mean to bold all that. Thought I unbolded it.