Fair or not, Craig Ramsay should be held accountable and shown the door

Three and a half years ago, early into the 2007-08 season, the Atlanta Thrashers traveled home from Philadelphia after losing to the Flyers 4-0. The loss was the sixth straight to start off the new campaign and it was also the second time they had been held without a goal that fall.

But before they dropped the puck on game number seven two nights later when the New York Rangers were in town, the organization had made one major change…firing head coach Bob Hartley.

The move came the very next morning after that loss in Philly and to little surprise to many. “He simply had lost the locker room”, many insisted, while some said he was simply a pre-lockout coach trapped in a post-lockout world. Others, myself included, just simply disagreed with the move.

Whatever the case, coach Bob became the second Thrashers coach to be shown the door, following Curt Fraser four years before.

In the wake of Hartley’s dismissal, I opined here the final judgment of whether or not the move was the right call would ultimately be decided by who replaced him and how the team finished. As we all know, there was not real “replacement” for the rest of the 76 games that season, instead Don Waddell simply added “head coach” to his “general manager” title. The team then finished 34-40-8 and in 14th place in the Eastern Conference.

I’ll let you draw your own conclusions as to whether firing him was the right call, but Hartley was held accountable for the 0-6 start to the season following first round playoff sweep six months prior.

Mr. Anderson, meet Mr. Hartley…Mr. Hartley, Mr. Anderson

Fast-forwarding to last spring… newly named general manager Rick Dudley announced that he had let go John Anderson and his entire coaching staff after just two seasons. After many successful years with the Thrashers AHL affiliate in Chicago, Anderson led Atlanta to records of just 35-41-6 and 35-34-13.

One of the main reasons for that firing, Dudley said, was because the organization felt they had assembled a team capable of contending for a playoff spot but the job simply did not get done. Thus, Anderson was held accountable and he was shown the same door Hartley was two and a half year prior.

Mr. Ramsay, meet Mr. Hartley…Mr. Hartley, Mr. Ramsay

And now, as much as I hate to say it, a time for accountability has come once again in Thrasherville. The exit door reserved for Thrashers head coaches should once again be unlocked and Craig Ramsay should be asked to follow behind Anderson, Hartley and Fraser.

I don’t come to this conclusion easily, to be sure. Like so many others last summer I was thrilled to learn that Dudley had tapped the long-time assistant for his first head-coaching gig. He’s a solid hockey man with a very good head on his shoulders and it seemed as though Dudley has pulled off a minor coup in not only bringing him in, but also John Torchetti from the Stanley Cup champion Chicago Blackhawks.

I was fortunate enough to interview Ramsay last summer and was very impressed with his belief that his main job here was how to teach these players how to be smart out on the ice. But the teacher doesn’t seem to be getting through to his pupils. And given how they’ve lost so many times in the same fashion lately…completely falling apart in the latter stages of the game…it’s apparent he doesn’t have the ability to properly handle the class.

That sound of rushing water wasn’t Niagara Falls

After last night’s 4-1 loss in Buffalo, which followed a disastrous 5-3 loss to Edmonton last Saturday, Ramsay’s Thrashers have played to a record of 6-15-5 since December 20. In calendar year 2011, they have won exactly three times in regulation and for the month of February they are an abysmal 1-7-1.

Coaches get fired if those types of records come at the beginning of a season.

Should Craig Ramsay be fired at this time?

  • Yes. The record speaks for itself (27%, 127 Votes)
  • No. This is not his fault (32%, 150 Votes)
  • Let him finish the season then decide (41%, 193 Votes)

Total Voters: 470

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These Thrashers have now lost four consecutive without even the benefit of an overtime consolation point. In each of those defeats they have lead or been tied in the second half of the game or later. The last time they lost four games in a row was just prior to the 3-2 win over the New York Rangers two Friday’s ago. The point gained via a 4-3 OT loss in Carolina was the only one earned during that particular stretch of losses.

The offense has been…well…offensive lately, scoring but nine goals during the four game slide. If not for Andrew Ladd it would be only four. As for the defense, well they should be building statues of them to place outside of Philips Arena. I can think of no better tribute to illustrate just how they perform in front of Pavelec’s net.

Last night’s loss followed the same pattern as so many that preceded it. The Thrashers again found themselves in a close game late in the second period, tied 1-1 thanks to Andrew Ladd’s power play goal, but a Sabres goal with just 68 second left before the second intermission was followed by another just 30 ticks of the clock later. It was the sixth time this season that they’ve allowed two goals in 39 seconds or less.

Just a buck fifty-four after the break it was 4-1 and the great whooooosh-ing sound you heard coming from western New York was not emanating from Niagara Falls. Rather it was the sound of yet another effort flushed down the drain and quite possibly their playoff hopes as well.

As was the case in Dallas last month, where a 1-1 game in the second became a 6-1 loss…and the last time Toronto was in town and a one-goal game in the second became a 9-3 route…and the 2-2 game against the Flyers entering the third period which tuned into a 5-2 loss…and a 2-2 game in Pittsburgh halfway through the second that soon became a 6-3 defeat…and of course that 3-1 lead early in the third last Saturday that dissolved into an embarrassing 5-3 loss to the worst team in the league…once again the Thrashers played just good enough to last until their all-too-usual collapse.

You could almost smell it coming after Paul Gaustad put Buffalo up 2-1. We in Thrasherville have become very familiar with that aroma lately.

Time to light the Torch in Atlanta

This team is the very definition of fragile as all it takes is one bad turn to cause them to crumble. It’s been that way for two months now and coach Ramsay has failed to address it properly. He doesn’t have the ability to properly motive this bunch, nor can he make the necessary adjustments in games to counter those made from the opposing bench.

Is the cause for the Thrashers fall in the standings solely his fault? No, absolutely not. These players give up too quick, take too many shifts off and certainly deserve their fair share of scorn as well. Some will point injuries to key players while and insist things would be different had they been healthy. Others will point to what the good coach was given to work with this season and ask why he should bear the brunt for it.

But, as they say, you don’t normally fire players. And here in Thrasherville, general managers don’t get fired either…they just get promoted to team president after a decade or so of futility.

And given the way this season has melted into yet another craptacular fiasco, whether it be deserving or not, Craig Ramsay’s time to take the fall has come. To have him remain and the team continue it’s death spiral from atop the conference standings last December towards Lotteryville possibly this spring would indicate the organization is accepting failure and unwilling to do anything about it.

Not a good sign to give to an already skeptical fanbase, let alone any potential new buyer.

The next time we see Rick Dudley should be when he thanks Rammer for his service, wishes him nothing but the best, reminds us all that it wasn’t all his fault…then introduces the next head coach for the Atlanta Thrashers, John Torchetti.

We can then only hope that the head coach’s exit door can at least stop swinging before we begin to think he needs to be shown it too.

294 comments Add your comment

ablebody

February 24th, 2011
5:01 pm

every stanley cup contender this year has had similar slumps. they aren’t firing their coaches.
settle down.
i think this stat is important: atlanta is one game below .500 when games are decided by one goal. tampa bay, on the other hand, is nine games above .500 with one goal being the difference.
each of these teams has played 29 one-goal games so far this year. there could be 10 more the rest of the way. if atlanta can turn this trend around then playoffs are possible. how?
tougher defense (add stuart) and fresher goaltending (give pav’s a break!).

World Be Free

February 24th, 2011
5:03 pm

I support this blog, in the sense that it seems obvious that the team is not coached in some of the fundamentals required to win at the NHL level. Refer to one of my previous posts for reasons that support the idea that the coach may be a big part of the problem. Toss in the penatly killing, which by its performance may be season killing, all from a guy that was a premier penalty killer for his entire career. It hurts me to say all of it, but it’s accurate.

EA

February 24th, 2011
5:07 pm

Iron League-thanks for sharing your recipie. It sounds really good.Who knew a blog could offer some great hockey insight along with recipies? Rawhide’s followers are the best.

Midfield

February 24th, 2011
5:09 pm

May be it’s time to switch Torch with Rammer and see if this works — at least for about ten games or so.

Smoothie

February 24th, 2011
5:09 pm

WBF – and that therein lies the rub. No one is saying Ramsay should have this team on the precipice of the Stanley Cup, but we should be better at the “little” things that are required to win games, remember those folks? The little things that we’re helping us to win games with regularity b/w November 17, 2010 and January 4, 2011. Sigh.

Iron League 13

February 24th, 2011
5:10 pm

EA – Rad, I’m working on my black belt (I’m no where near that) in grilling hence the fourth time this week I’ve experimented, it’s amazing and simple. I hope you all try it some time.

David McGraw

February 24th, 2011
5:13 pm

I’ve had enough of this hockey team in Atlanta. Year after year we start with some expectations of improvement then by March its fire sale time and move the players. Makes me appreciate my Directv NHL package.

Stat Man

February 24th, 2011
5:14 pm

I hate that my research is getting buried 200 comments deep because I think it’s a very telling stat.

In addition to Ramsay obviously not being much of a teacher or motivator, he isn’t much in the way of making good adjustments.

Over the past 26 games, in the opening 4 1/2 minutes of the 2nd & 3rd periods (the time where adjustments have to be made to stay in the game) – THE THRASHERS HAVE BEEN OUTSCORED 20-5.

They simply don’t come out after an intermission with any intensity at all. Think about the stat I just laid out there. That’s FIVE goals in 234 minutes of ice time (works out to a GAA of 1.28) in the most important 9 minutes of the game!

JUST PLAIN SAD!

World Be Free

February 24th, 2011
5:14 pm

Smoothie-you bet dude
Rammer is a fundamental person, was as a player and currently as a teacher so it makes sense that his team should be able to mast the fundamentals of the game. This team has some glaring weaknesses that have surfaced over the past few weeks. Look at Buffalo last night, not usually a good forecheckign team was on us in our end-like every other team. They have scouts, they see how to get to us. How often does Pavs have to be left out to dry?

WTF?

February 24th, 2011
5:24 pm

I’ve been saying this for 2 months now. It all starts at the top and works downhill. Get a new coach that has some spirit and knowledge and you’ll get more than a sub 500 team. For all you knuckleheads in Blueland that think Ramsay is a good coach: what is the team record again? Oh yeah that’s right it’s not the coach’s fault, he’s a good coach.. Get a clue fans and when you do you’ll have a good team.

goose

February 24th, 2011
5:26 pm

Re-posted from the blueland blog: I live in Hamilton (where Ben Maxwell plays) and am a big Thrashers fan. (Yeah weird I know.)

We did really good here, that kid has crazy tenacity and grit, also he plays center which is just an added bonus for us. I’m happy a Hamilton guy got dealt here.

He has nice speed and is good at putting pressure on the opposition. Also as a centreman he makes some pretty crisp passes. I think Dudley is doing a good job of acquiring talent like this, which is something we need.

It’s just too bad I won’t be seeing him live as often now.

Geddy Lee

February 24th, 2011
5:26 pm

Hold your fire –
Keep it burning bright
Hold the flame
’till the dream ignites
A spirit with a vision
is a dream with a mission…..

Once we get the right spirit, we will win!

Smoothie

February 24th, 2011
5:26 pm

RDS reporting that Stephen Weiss has been traded. Didn’t Dudley draft Weiss or was that right before his time?

WTF?

February 24th, 2011
5:27 pm

@ablebody. Do you really have the guts to consider the Thrashers a Stanley Cup contender? What are you smoking?

Smoothie

February 24th, 2011
5:35 pm

Nevermind, RDS jumped the gun again. Just Stillman taking his butt back to Raleigh for another Cup run.

Lew 39

February 24th, 2011
5:39 pm

There has never been a real plan to compete, so the finger starts with the owners. Don’t spend to improve the product, which would provide more wins, more fans and more revenue/ Instead cut expesnes!! We have witnessed what cutting expesnes can do for the 5th straight year.

The players; they are professionals and should do better. What the hell happened to this team? They are a shell of what they were in December. Can you blame this on the coaches? maybe a bit.

Until there is a REAL commitment to spend money and build a better product you can shuffle coach after coach after coach and it won’t make that much of a difference.

Red Light

February 24th, 2011
5:42 pm

Weiss was drafted the year prior to Dudley going to Florida. You might remember Dudley took Svitov with the pick prior to the Panthers taking Weiss.

Bruins

February 24th, 2011
6:03 pm

Its not Ramsey, its the organization and ownership. They trade off talent instead of bringing in talent to complement what they have there. Blame your GM for what is happening. Ramsey is one hell of a coach and would love to have him back in Boston. He had sole control of our PK unit and it was the best in the league. It shows ATL has not been around hockey enough to understand the situation. Other than Buff, there is not enough good players on this team to win consistently. The chemistry of this team is horrible also.

CA Thrashers Fan

February 24th, 2011
6:04 pm

Agree with the comments about not wanting to see a coaching-go-round over there in Atlanta. With the ownership issues, player turnover, etc…, what the team desperately needs is some stability. This was not a team likely to make the playoffs barring an injury-free season or players massively exceeding expectations, they just lack the talent and depth to do so.

As a follower of the Kings for many years, who got to see Torchetti in a prior interim role, just…please, no. Besides, isn’t he the man in charge of the defense that has become absolutely pitiful over the past two months?

simpleminded

February 24th, 2011
6:13 pm

Down the stretch, I’d like to see this be a “tryout” for the youth for next year. Kulda, Postma, Maxwell. Might as well “kick the tires!”

Kincade is talking right now about how the Hawks are trying to leave some youth and flexibility for the new ownership too. Things WILL get better.

Red Light

February 24th, 2011
6:27 pm

In case you aren’t aware, and are not a Center Ice subscriber, you can get Canes and Predators re-broadcasts on Fox Sports South over the next few days. Stay up late or set the DVR and watch them while enjoying your coffee the next morning.

Fox Sports South
Thursday, February 24
1:00 am (NHL) Nashville Predators: Blackhawks at Predators (R) HDTV

Friday, February 25
7:30 pm (NHL) Atlanta Thrashers: Panthers at Thrashers (Live) HDTV
12:00 am (NHL) Carolina Hurricanes: Penguins at Hurricanes (R) HDTV

Saturday, February 26
2:00 am (NHL) Nashville Predators: Predators at Stars (R) HDTV

Brendan

February 24th, 2011
6:42 pm

So, now the Byfuglien deal looks like this: Byfuglien, Ben Maxwell, a 4th Round Pick, a 5th-Round Pick and Akim Aliu (Gwinnett) to the Atlanta Thrashers for Marty Reasoner, Jeremy Morin, Joey Crabb, a 1st and a 2nd round selection in 2010.

Red Light, thank you for posting that. It was what I was just about to say. That trade doesn’t look nearly as good as it once did. Then again, what will “Bang, Bang” Maxwell bring to the table? And just how far away is he from making the roster? Time will tell.

A few years ago, we got Eric O’Dell in a trade. I’ve been eager to see him play. Will it even be next season that it happens? What about Angelo Esposito? You remember him. He was a part of the Hossa “firesale.”

Red Light, when Oduya is traded, I expect you to post what the Kovalchuk “firesale” eventually turned into.

Folks, this Panthers-Thrashers game is very intriguing. Both teams are eliminate, except not mathematically, and draft position is very much at stake in the meeting.

Iron League 13

February 24th, 2011
6:51 pm

Thanks for the promo on the tickets, Rawhide!!! I’ll be there with the boy up in the 317 section. :)

JT from Columbus

February 24th, 2011
6:51 pm

Next five games at home. Five wins?

Brendan

February 24th, 2011
6:58 pm

Loved the Rush reference on today’s blog!! “Mission” is one of my favorite songs.

IL13, thank you. I strive to be cleverly absurd as often as I can. Thank you for not being overly judgemental about it. I have a few detractors here who think I talk down to them, when really … the best way to demonstrate ‘absurdity’ is to be absurd. There’s a lesson there. (Professors sometimes have one.) One can’t really just come out and say that Nancy Pelosi is on crack. You’ve got to present information that leads the reader to that conclusion, all on their own. It’s a sobering moment, when Mr. Burns realizes that Homer Simpson is not the ‘brilliant tactician’ he took him for. Has Rick Dudley come to the conclusion that Craig Ramsay is not a Head Coach in the NHL? Until he’s fired, the answer is no. For the record, I probably wouldn’t fire Craig Ramsay at this point, given our roster and budget situation. Did we really expect Ramsay to be Anne Sullivan, “The Miracle Worker.” In our AJC contest, I had the Thrashers finishing with 81-points and in 11th place in the Conference, 4th in the SE Division. Admittedly, I hoped to be utterly wrong on that account. But I’m not one for ’sugarcoating’ things. I say what I think, with honesty, and no hidden agendas. And that’s what Rawhide does, too. He didn’t make this blog post to ‘rile up’ the masses for webhits. He’s spreaking from his heart. Certainly, there’s a case to be made for Craig Ramsay getting an early spring pinkslip. The record is 6-15-5 in the last 26 games. The team has won but once (1x) since the All-Star break. Anyone think that’s a ‘playoff push?’ I’m just asking a question.

glovesave29

February 24th, 2011
7:03 pm

The root of the problem is the lack of continuity in the farm system (other than moronic ownership) .We gotta drop the Wolves. Need for there to be more teaching at the AHL level. Let Chicago be an independent and have career minor leaguers on the roster to make a run at the Calder Cup every year. We keep having the same discussion year after year…and if ya keep doing what you’ve always done, you get what you’ve always gotten!

Ive been harping on this for 3 years – time to move the Gladiators up to the AHL and reap the benefits of having the top minor league team 2 miles up the street. Charlotte is now in the AHL. Rumors are Birmingham and Memphis are considering it.

We don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. Players always wanted to play for Bobby Cox because they knew he would defend them to the death, and would never show them up in public. Coaches like Keenan who berate and embarrass players are always run out of town in short order. I’d like to think that Rammer is giving them hell – and not just an impossible practice for show in the media. The walls at the practice facility are cement, so we cannot hear what’s going on back there – but is sure as %&*#$ hope it sounds like one of those kitchen brawls on “Ramsay’s Kitchen Nightmares”.

See y’all tomorrow – GO THRASHERS!

sisu

February 24th, 2011
7:24 pm

No, where is the goalie guru/…PAVS HAS TO make some keys saves on some nights.

Mad Chris

February 24th, 2011
7:36 pm

FIRE HIM !!! Rammer was a good first half coach and that is it. This team is worse than the first season. The devils fired there new coach and look at them heading pass the thrashers into the playoffs.

Kevin

February 24th, 2011
7:44 pm

I agree! The thing that bothers me the most besides the losses is the fact that we consistently give up goals at the beginnning and the end of periods. They do not finish periods nor are they ready at the beginning of periods, also the complete lack of physical play.

The record since Jan is completely unacceptable and some type of decision has to be made.

Moose

February 24th, 2011
8:18 pm

Rawhide,
Perhaps that was the thought from the beginning, as Torch was brought in as an associate coach. Smacks of Edmonton replacing Pat Quinn quickly with Tom Renney. Might be the coaching game has passed Ramsay by. Disappointing season to say the least, I’m still thinking we over achieved at the beginning for sure.

Matt

February 24th, 2011
8:32 pm

Why do you use several nicknames…pick one.

Rawhide

February 24th, 2011
8:48 pm

Matt – I’m assuming you’re addressing that question/directive to me. I really only have one “nickname”…Rawhide.

The “Ice Man” name is given to the blog host by the AJC.com as the “The Ice Man Bloggeth” is the name of this blog. That was the case when Dave Vecsy hosted it four years ago and it’s the name of the blog since I took it over in 2007. I actually asked the guys downtown to possibly change that, but I guess they’re sort of attached to it.

I chose to keep “Rawhide” after I was invited to take over the blog because it’s what I used when I was posting comments prior to becoming the host. When I first start doing this, I wanted to make sure readers knew it was indeed an ordinary Thrashers fan providing his viewpoint and perspective.

I actually tried dumping the nickname some time a go, but a lot of the regulars insisted I keep it. So….shrugs…whatchagonnado.

Iron League 13

February 24th, 2011
8:53 pm

Rawhide – I left a recipe on here (very weird I know) since you asked what I was grillin’. Hope you saw I responded.

Thrashers27

February 24th, 2011
8:55 pm

Anybody heard anything regarding the ownership news that CViv mentioned earlier?

Iron League 13

February 24th, 2011
8:57 pm

Thrashers – Not yet, I’m anxious.

Rawhide

February 24th, 2011
9:00 pm

IL13 – Yes, I saw that…thank you. I have printed it out, added it to my book and will try that out this spring/summer.

Your Mom

February 24th, 2011
9:23 pm

Bring in MIKE KEENAN for the stretch run.

CaptBubba

February 24th, 2011
9:54 pm

Ridiculous. When you have a crap team for year after year, you bring in a smart, defense-first coach and let him teach how to play within a smart system and you give him time to grow the team and establish a culture of improvement. If your season ended today, it would be considered a step in the right direction. Rammer did great things with the D corps of the Bruins and he is a well respected coach and if you think Byfuglien’s improvement into the stratosphere has little to do with the man running the ship, you know nothing. You have a very good corps of D (Stuart was a favorite of mine and will wear an ‘A’ if not the ‘C’ in Atlanta if he stays for any period of time) and you need to calm down and let him establish himself. Changing coaches like you change your socks is going to just continue the Legacy of Lousy that will eventually earn your franchise a move to Quebec City or Winnepeg where many think they belong. Step away from the Fire the Coach histrionics and be happy you have the right man to right your leaky ship.

Buzzeng

February 24th, 2011
10:13 pm

Hi Bill,

As always your blogs are informative and thought-provoking. I’m glad you do the job you do, as well as (most of) your fellow bloggers.

After reading all 400+ entries and trying to grapple with my vote, I’m going to go with “keep Ramsay”. There have been a lot of good points made on both sides, but I keep coming back to my (maybe flawed) analysis of the season. I seem to recall that when the Thrashers were rolling, they were successfully rolling four lines and all of them were posting points – good points. Everyone was happy and the goalie was pulling a few rabbits out of the hat. Solid NHL play from a lot of borderline talent with only a few blue-chippers. What about now? Those four lines started breaking – a player here, a player there – then got patched (often with callups from a different system – Wolves, or inexperienced players) and are still being sliced, diced and julienned. Good players got injured, but had to play anyway and it showed. Fewer good players meant more time on the ice and more wear and tear on the survivors and the physicality of the team diminishes to a whisper. A player comes back, and another one drops out. It was a patchwork success for a while. Now there’s not enough patches, let alone enough quality patches, to make the quilt – so it’s got holes and the wrong pieces stapled in place. No wonder there are no wins. I don’t think a raving screamer would fare any better.

Let Coach Ramsay keep working and educating the youngsters – I get the feeling he’s watching for more than just Ws and Ls. Let Dudley keep pulling the parts together for a solid foundation. Take a deep breath and enjoy every win as a surprise, not a let down.

Go Thrashers!

DavidR

February 24th, 2011
11:09 pm

might as well toss in my 2 cents along with everyone else. not that i am even remotly gonna be able to even find this post once its posted.

Ramsay should be at the absolute least given the year to finish out. Than the record examined and broken apart to see what he could have done. I really dont think that we are going to find much. Several people have hit the nail on the head with scoring by committe. With the bench being brutalised by injuries (and stupid play by players that know better) the weaknesses of the team have reared there ugly heads. It has shown exactly what each and every memeber of the TEAM is and isnt capable of doing. That being said, the only thing that is left is for the team to work individually on those things that they arent very good at. The absolute biggest glaring item for me is the faceoff circle. Ya dont win faceoffs ya have to work harder to control the puck. I REALLY want to see the stats on this also but i would be willing to wager that we havent won more than 50% of the faceoffs since we lost Slater. Yeah the go to guy for faceoffs. Thats for starters. I think we can all trace a large amount of issues the team has had back to one person. That person being out the rust factor shows up.
Between Slater and Enstrom I would be happy to say no one stepped up their game to cover for em. Not really sure there was anyone to cover for them, so everything went to hell in a handbasket.

But on another note lets talk about ownership. Would you be willing to give it all youve got after all the bombshells they have dropped in the last couple months. Me personally i would be extremly demotivated to perform at all kinda like a trained zoo animal without any rewards.

So what have we got here other than a failure to communicate. A (most likely) demotivated team with key injuries that they cant completely cover. A lack of a go to scorer. Ownership that sucks ____________ (insert your choice of words). And a coach that would be pulling his hair out if he had any.

Let Ramsay finish the year. See what Dud’s has up his sleeve trades etc. Find out what the hades these ownership rumours are. And perhaps, just perhaps there might be a light at the end of the tunnel that isnt a train.

Brendan

February 24th, 2011
11:11 pm

In “Modin Watch 2010-11″ the over/under was 56 games played and 14 goals scored. And they all must be done as a Thrasher. If traded, those games and goals don’t count in the contest we held. Of course, all voting is long since over, so … don’t even try it.

Hockey Biltong

February 24th, 2011
11:18 pm

Red Light, thanks!!!

BehindEnemyLines

February 24th, 2011
11:21 pm

I’ve got to go into the “keep Ramsay” camp as well. It’s a Mickey Mouse roster built by a historically Mickey Mouse franchise, awfully harsh to judge a first year coach based on unrealistic performance early & then playing to the level of the talent on hand the rest of the season. 2 years of rebuilding the roster from now, then there’s a conversation. But at the moment? No coach is going to have significant success with what’s available at the moment.

eugene

February 24th, 2011
11:41 pm

The Thrashers do not have a good team. Most of the players on the roster wouldn’t crack the top 3 lines in a top NHL team. Even Scotty Bowman couldn’t coach this sorry team into the playoffs. I think if I was a player on the Thrashers, it would be pretty hard to get pumped up in a stadium with only 7,000 fans on an average weekday game. If the Thrashers made it to the playoffs and made it to the Conference finals, I still doubt they’d even sell out that game. Hockey just won’t work here in the South. It’s a failure and this team should be sold and relocated to a more hockey friendly environment like Hamilton, Quebec, or Winnipeg.

Red Light

February 25th, 2011
12:01 am

11th place behind Toronto entering play tomorrow night. Rangers, Canes, Sabres, Devils and of course, Florida vs. Atlanta all will be in action.

The six d-men are not a bad unit, even with the warrior Sopel in Montreal, No, it’s not the best unit in the league, but it certainly isn’t at the bottom either. They have to get help from the forwards. There are only a few forwards who I notice in the d-zone on a consistent basis. The others have to make it a point to help out in their own zone. I think we’ve all been saying that for many seasons now.

Byfuglien and Bogo need to use their size much more often too, Puck carriers and muckers need to fear the corners and the boards every time those two are on the ice. Particularly because the others don’t hit. Two hits per period minimum and opposing forwards will have their heads on a swivel. Screw passive! Hit somebody and often!

LAC

February 25th, 2011
12:31 am

eugene, another canada troll, who simply cannot understand the way things are in Atlanta and their only comment is to move to canada. Tell me “eugene”, what gives canada fans holy ownership of the game of hockey ? Can you tell me why do you idiots ALWAYS come on blogs, spewing your mindless venom of moving. Why does it have to be “canada” ?

New arena in Kansas City, would make a LOT more sense to move them there is they were to move. But “eugene”, watch the NYI games, more empty than Atlanta ever is, and NJD, always empty seats visable and lots of empty seats in Dallas and Detroit of all places.Why attack Atlanta ?
Attack NJD/NYI and others!

I think there are 4-5 too many teams in canada as it is. Edmonton, Ottawa, Toronto all need to move south for sure. Only makes sense. Let’s have a team in Houston, one in Memphis and one in Kansas City. Then it would be more fair to the canada teams .

You canada fans are THE WORST in all sports, all your worthless whining and crying etc… You have MORE than enough teams, so quit making comments about Atlanta and simply STFU.

If not come on down for a good old Atlanta street fight, You will LOSE and end up at Grady !

Show Up and Support Hockey FRI and SUN

February 25th, 2011
1:39 am

If you like hockey, it’s time to come down and help fill up the arena. If you are a fence-sitter, maybe this video will motive you:

http://www.keepthethrashers.com/videokeepthrashersgame.html

We need to show potential investors that Atlanta will support hockey with a stable ownership group.

GO THRASHERS! See you this weekend…

Wreckin & Thrashin

February 25th, 2011
2:52 am

My brothers, no matter whom we fire, hire, or acquire, it is all irrelevant as long as the Atlanta Spirit own our team.

eugene

February 25th, 2011
3:41 am

LAC first off, I paid over $9,000 for my season tickets to the Thrashers this season so I’ve done my part in supporting the team. What have you done except make lame-brained threats on the internet? I’ve been to every game this season, I’ve bought authentic jerseys and also paid to have them stitched. Every game I’ve gone to, I’ve spent over $60 on concessions at EVERY game and that’s not including parking. So if anyone needs to STFU it’s you. My hard-earned money is being spent supporting a team that doesn’t have enough passionate fans. The Thrashers are selling tickets as low as $10/game and they can’t even sell out a single game. That’s the reality that’s facing the team. Do I want to see the Thrashers leave? Of course not, otherwise there won’t be an NHL team in Atlanta. Maybe if you went out and bought some $10 tickets instead of being a keyboard warrior, talks of relocating the Thrashers would stop.

Smitty

February 25th, 2011
6:50 am

I can see why Maxwell could not crack the Montreal line-up. He is over 6′ tall.

Bill: Have to disagree with you on Ramsey. Hartley had a veteran squad with a few cancers on it. After a miserable playoff the previous year and the atrocious start DW had to save face and throw Hartley under the bus.

Ramsey has no where near the experienced players Hartley had. Cormier, Little, Bogey, Kane, Bergfors, Burmy and Pavs are all under 23. Our captain is only 25. There is really no veteran leadership on this team.
Antro is not fully healthy and he is playing slow. Slater is concussed and he is missed more than I ever thought he would be. Have to give him a little more time. Even Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys started 1-13 or something like that and looked what they did to my BIlls in two Super Bowls.