Tasty turnovers in Toronto continue Thrashers tumbling trend

The Maple Leafs have this thing with waffles…but for the Thrashers, its turnovers.

Monday night in the Air Canada Center, they served up more turnovers than any bakery found in Toronto and were giving them away all night long to those wearing blue jerseys. Taking advantage of the visiting team’s generosity, the Leafs then helped themselves to a tasty 5-4 win over the Thrashers.

While there were many candidates to choose from, this night’s clear winner of the Platinum Pastry Award for the single most egregious turnover of the game goes to…tearing open the envelope…defenseman Dustin Byfuglien.

Mikhail Grabovski politely raises his had to ask for more turnovers from the Thrashers. Unfortunately, they were more than happy to oblige (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Frank Gunn)

After scoring a goal, Mikhail Grabovski politely raises his had to ask for more turnovers from the Thrashers. Unfortunately, they were more than happy to oblige (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Frank Gunn)

For those who were not able to see the play that de-knotted a 3-3 score early in the third period, Big Buff attempted to casually backhand the puck over to the right side boards to Johnny Oduya. Unfortunately, what Byfuglien accomplished was a beautiful pass to Toronto’s Nikolai Kulemin…who then neatly tucked the gifted puck under a surprised Ondrej Pavelec.

Kulemin, I’m sure, will do the right thing and follow up with a nice Thank You card to the Thrashers defenseman.

Five minutes later, Tim Stapleton…who should be arrested and charged with impersonating an NHL player…played hot potato with the puck in the corner and lost the puck. That turnover led to a Tim Brent goal, making it 5-3.

An Andrew Ladd jam-in at the 11:01 mark got the Thrashers back to within one, but in the end it was the Maple Leafs that pulled the win out of the oven…even though they failed to put the icing on top by way of an empty-netter.

Forward Fredrik Modin left the game in the second period with an upper body injury. The bad news here is given the Thrashers don’t play again until Friday and the way their luck has gone lately, there’s a better than even chance he doesn’t even miss a game.

The loss drops Atlanta’s record to 0-3-1 coming out of the All Star break, 4-7-4 in 2011 and 5-11-5 since the last time they played in Toronto back on December 20.

Their 24-22-10 record leaves them at 58 points along with the Carolina Hurricanes, who were idle Monday. However, the Canes now have three games in hand and will take to the ice twice this week before the Thrashers play again Friday against the Rangers.

Buffalo is only five points behind Atlanta and has five games in hand while the Panthers trail the Thrashers by six with four in hand. Both of those teams have games on Tuesday and on Thursday the play against each other in south Florida.

Meanwhile…back in Thrasherville…rumor has it general manager Rick Dudley has been seen out on his balcony play the fiddle. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but he needs to bake up some sort of deal soon to help this team before the season is completely cooked. Otherwise, come April 11, these Thrashers will once again be enjoying turnovers and other pastries while they await their tee times.

And as good as turnover pastries are… that would be tough to swallow.

By: Bill Tiller – AJC.com Thrashers Fan Blog

204 comments Add your comment

R. Stroz

February 8th, 2011
2:12 pm

Brendan – CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP

alex

February 8th, 2011
2:14 pm

best trade scenario dw form Atlanta to Siberia for a pack of shovels at least it’s going to improve Atlanta in case of snow storm, also ted turner should go on trial for treason against loyal hockey Atlanta fans, because he decided to sell thrashers for discount price to bunch of clowns including his friends and relative knowing they don’t care and going to dump franchise at first opportunity. SAGE OF BLUELAND is 100% correct.

Larry E

February 8th, 2011
2:15 pm

Watched this excuse for a hockey team last night up to where they were ahead 2-0. Turned it off and said they will give it away. Turned it back on later and Walha ! They could ‘nt hold a 20 point lead. Watched a Bantum game last week(13-15yr old) much more entertaining.

Hoof Arted

February 8th, 2011
2:19 pm

I could write eklund’s blog for him. It normally goes something like this:

“Just got off the phone with someone close to one of the teams in the NE Division. He tells me there’s a buzz going around about a top six left winger from that team being dealt away to a team in the west, Pacific Division or NW, I’m not allowed to say just which at this time.

In return for said LW, the team in the NE Division would receive a defenseman as well as a top prospect or #1 pick this summer.

If that team is, say, Edmonton giving up a #1 then that would be of great benefit to the team on the receiving end of the deal. Personally, I think the Senators could use that the most, but I’m only speculating they are the team involved in the rumor.

I’ll check back in later with updates”.

How’s that?

Cliff Fletcher

February 8th, 2011
2:20 pm

part of the control of the team is selecting the coaching staff for the ahl team. clubs that do this enble the minor league coaches to move up to the parent club as an assistant-a doorway to the big leagues. who is the head coach in chicago?

GaVaHokie

February 8th, 2011
2:25 pm

Hoof Arted… you forgot to throw in the word ‘domino’.

Acer

February 8th, 2011
2:28 pm

(from another source)
My main complain about the Thrashers- Wolves relationship is the lack of control that the parent NHL club has over it’s minor-league affiliate. AHL ownership is not even the solution. I strongly believe that members of the parent NHL franchise Hockey Operations staff must be involved within the AHL franchise Hockey Ops.

Here’s a quick AHL-NHL owners & Hockey Ops check of the other Southeast teams:

Carolina: Peter Karmanos (NHL); MAK Hockey, LLC (Michael Kahn, president/CEO) [AHL]. No direct Canes HockeyOps involvement, although Checkers HC+ GM Daniels has a history within the Hurricanes organization.

Florida: Cliff Viner & Stu Siegel (NHL); Curt Styres (AHL). No direct involvement according to my quick research.

Tampa: Jeff Vinik; Ken Young and Tides Baseball, LP. Julien BriseBois (AGM in Tampa; GM in Norfolk.)

Washington: Ted Leonsis; HERCO. Bears GM Yingst & Caps GM McPhee work as a tandem in the AHL.

No Southeastern team owner owns their affiliated AHL team. Every other team, beside Atlanta and Florida has some of connection to the AHL franchise. Tampa finally got the message! I don’t think that the pre-Yzerman Bolts- Admirals relationship was a tied as it is now.

Complaints of the past about the weak supply of quality prospects from the Thrashers to the AHL don’t make sense anymore. The improved record at the draft table have led to an influx of decent young players. In that regard, I question why the Wolves need Krog and Haydar. If it were up to me, I’d install a member of the Thrashers Hockey Operations staff (will be hired) who’s main task will be to create the best development environment for Thrashers prospects in the AHL. Any refusal from the Wolves side will see a termination of the affiliation agreement or it’s not renewed, depending on the situation.

Cornbread

February 8th, 2011
2:29 pm

Yep I said it. I also said if the Thrashers don’t take advantage of their February schedule than I’d be concerned. Am I concerned yet? Getting there.

But I also said the Rangers and Canes should be more concerned with their schedules. In case you have not noticed, the Rangers have been falling as fast as the Thrashers have. I’d still much rather have the Thrashers schedule this month, especially the way they have been struggling, than those of NY or NC.

It all could come down to the final games in April between the three. Time for the Thrashers to take advantage of February so it does not have to.

Hoof Arted

February 8th, 2011
2:48 pm

GaVaHokie, you are right. I forgot to work that in. OK so here’s the update.

“Just got off the phone with my contact. He’s certain that any such trade between a NE team and PAc or HW trade partner could set off a domino effect in regards to other possible deals. The prospect/draft pick heading east could be used to secure a backup goalie desperately needed for the playoff stretch.

Also, I’m getting word that the Thrashers have indeed been in talks with the Edmonton Oilers lately. Rumors I’ve gotten have Bogosian heading to the Canadian rockies in exchange for Penner or Hemski. Picks and prospects are also on the table-(HF2).

However there is just as muck likelihood that Atlanta will look to keep their third overall pick from the 2008 draft in house given his strong upside once his defensive game finally develops. So we’ll have to stay tuned”.

JB

February 8th, 2011
3:07 pm

y’all forgot every other day or so the blog that’s simply an ambiguous headline with ‘more to come’ as the only content.

Cliff Fletcher

February 8th, 2011
3:26 pm

acer, nice work. owning the ahl affiliate is a big headache, another balance sheet the parent club has to worry about. what the nhl team needs is an exclusive arrangement with the ahl team to ensure they have creative control in the minors, coaches, style and playing time under the system that will be used by the big club. let somebody else own them preferably someone local since most ahl teams are in towns or small cities, have the local flavor and feed the affiliate quality prospects.

R. Stroz

February 8th, 2011
3:27 pm

These rumor people are nothing more than snake oil salesmen.

We deal with enough of “their types” between the ASG owners and Waddell.

msg

February 8th, 2011
3:28 pm

Here we go again. Thrashers will NOT make it into playoffs again. Nobody wants to buy them, no player wants to stay here. Completely screwed up ownership, management. Now what?????????

Zombie Steve

February 8th, 2011
3:29 pm

This team is making Chuck Norris cry.

LAC

February 8th, 2011
4:14 pm

If there is any saving grace to be had right now… Carolina is heading out on a pretty rough 5 game road trip. NJ twice, Philadelphia, Tampa,Atl. Then home to play,
Philadelphia/NJ/NYR/Pittsburgh and finish 2/11 in Montreal. Those will not be easy games for them at ALL, let’s hope they lose a whole lot. But we better damn sure whip their butts Sunday no if’s and’s or butts about it.

This losing HAS TO STOP, PLAY Defense for crying out loud, Play Defense !

Hockey Biltong

February 8th, 2011
4:22 pm

Needed for medical purpose;
1- hair club membership
2- throat lozenges
3- alcohol
4- blood pressure pills
5- alcohol

Hockey Biltong

February 8th, 2011
4:22 pm

did I mention alcohol?

Not Blind

February 8th, 2011
4:28 pm

How can anybody say the Thrashers have an easier schedule than Carolina ? I think Carolina has a better shot at gaining more points. The Thrashers find a way to win the games that don’t mean much, ie Washington. But when they play the teams below them they can’t get it done.

kj

February 8th, 2011
4:32 pm

No way you trade Bogo unless you’re trading straight up for a top 3 or 4 pick in the last few drafts so if L.A. wants to trade Drew Doughty, pull the trigger. That might happen 7 years from now but it ain’t happenin’ now. As much as Bogo needs to progress, you simply cannot trade him for anything less than a can’t miss and can sign – or two of those. That ain’t happenin’ either so the train leavin’ town will have a Hainsey or a Sopel or an Antropov, to name a few – IF we’re able to get a dance partner. Btw, throw in Mason too. What a bust.

R. Stroz

February 8th, 2011
4:40 pm

Hockey Biltong – Heat Miser informed me that a vuvuzela can be used as a funnel for alcohol.

Acer

February 8th, 2011
4:55 pm

LAC…don’t forget about the Sabres. They have five games in hand.

Cliff Fletcher

February 8th, 2011
5:00 pm

msg-the league has to step in and get this house in order. no indication any where that this can be repaired without gary bettman’s intervention. and everyone in the league knows it, everyone with a brain that is.

Not Blind

February 8th, 2011
5:11 pm

Cliff, WAKE UP. The Thrashers BELONG to the ASG. The NHL can’t just step in and thinking otherwise is just dumb.

Thrashers27...in Iowa

February 8th, 2011
5:14 pm

Wow! Our boys in blue suck soooo bad now, I had to move back to Iowa. Henceforth, I shall be known as “Thrashers27…in Iowa”.

“Yep, ‘nuthur Yankee goin’ back up north.”

I will miss having the ability to see my beloved Thrashers play in person, but I will certainly continue to follow them from afar…even when they suck.

Now, as for that sucking thing…KNOCK IT OFF, BOYS!!! WE ALL KNOW YOU GUYS CAN PLAY BETTER…YOU CAN PLAY WITH ANY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE!!! WE’VE SEEN IT!!!

Now get out there and win! I want playoffs!

I’ll still be around Atlanta once in a while, so I hope to see some of “y’all” around.

Red Light

February 8th, 2011
5:26 pm

Hockey Biltong

February 8th, 2011
5:41 pm

Stroz,
the Heat Miser is a wise man. You can also put it to your ear and hear the trees falling in the forest, you just can’t see them…….

Iron League 13

February 8th, 2011
5:55 pm

Not Blind – That was a rude response, don’t insinuate people lacking intelligence unless they’re being motherbleeps first. That’s just good manners. Anywho…why can’t the league step in? The Thrashers are a FRANCHISE, like a brand name car dealership or the run of the mill fast food joints and yes CORPORATE CAN STEP INTO THOSE TOO I’VE SEEN IT HAPPEN. But that’s all about predetermined rules of operation and such.

That said, I dunno if they could do anything about how these teams are operated now, but like I said before they seriously need to reform their selling practices. Prospective owners should be pretty serious fans first and foremost themselves on top having all the necessary means of capital, but I’m just a lamen, what do I know? The league SHOULD NOT sell to groups like ASG or that Wong guy with the Isles, team flippers (that should be a big HELL NO). I don’t see how hard it is to figure out if a guy/gal/group cares enough to succeed, but again, what do I know?

Anyways, yes current absentee owners bankrupting a franchise may have to answer to the original owner of said franchise if they are negligently jeopardizing it especially if they are marring the brand.

Red Light

February 8th, 2011
6:04 pm

From Sports Business Daily: Average viewership of Thrashers games on FS South and Sports South this season is 6,000 households per game. Presumably, that’s many of the same people who attend the games! Only Florida is rated worse.

So, which station will broadcast the games next season?

Buff-n-stuff

February 8th, 2011
6:08 pm

I find those numbers “Hard to Believe”….even with the teams recent troubles.

Brendan

February 8th, 2011
6:09 pm

True Blue, wait ’til we pull the trigger on Bogosian for Sheldon Souray, or some equally ridiculous trade. I’m at the point where I’m afraid that Thrashers organization reads our diatribes and might make a stupid trade in a futile attempt to assuage us. Maybe we should all start posting about how wonderful everything is … so there’s no need to make any changes. At least this way, if the team does get sold, the new ownership still have some pieces in place, from which to start.

Honestly, if the season is lost, why make it worse for next year by giving away a former 3rd overall pick? Honestly now. Honestly … what good are lottery picks in the hands of the AS,LLC and their staff? We just “firesale” them, or move them in “salvage jobs” to recoup what we can, at the deadline. We don’t have a Savard, Hossa, or Kovalchuk to bargain this deadline. Our biggest assets are Buff, Ladd, Pavelec, Enstrom and Bogosian. And it’s way too early to bail on Zach. Central scouting wasn’t wrong about him. He’s a Top 10 overall pick, for sure, from his draft year. He just needs (1) time and a (2) mentor. And he’ll be fine.

Brendan

February 8th, 2011
6:09 pm

Trixie, help.

Iron League 13

February 8th, 2011
6:13 pm

Red Light – BET THE FARM PICKS AND ALL!!!

Smoothie

February 8th, 2011
6:14 pm

Red Light – great article!! I concur 100%. What more do we have to lose? For chrissake’s we can’t nurture our young talent anyway and waiting another 3-5 years for more 1st rounders to develop (maybe) will lead to nothing but more STH departures and increased apathy by the remnants of the fanbase, if you can call it that.

Diehard

February 8th, 2011
6:14 pm

I am a lifelong hockey fan and this team has pretty much become unwatchable. This is about rock bottom for despair. Think of the Falcons with coaches lying and leaving and Vick headed to jail but without a commited owner like Blank. The team has been horrid losing 4 important games all to teams below it in the standings. The owners are an absolute joke unwilling to spend and then pointing to the stands and questioning why fans wont show up and watch this product. There is no commitment to winning. None. The concept of disposing of the team is the ownership attitude. They are more committed to lawsuits than winning. The sad thing is there appear to be no viable buyers to rescue the fans. Perhaps an open petition or letter to Bettman asking to save our franchise is in order signed off on by as many season ticket holders and fans as possible will get some attention. Hockey can succeed here but not with this self destructive joke of ownership.

Brendan

February 8th, 2011
6:15 pm

Not Blind, the NHL cannot be happy with the stewardship of this franchise. I don’t know if they have the ability to fine them or otherwise punish them, but perhaps a withholding of revenue-sharing dollars from the league would send a message. Knowing Bruce, he’d sue the NHL and Commissioner Bettman for trying a move like that. He’d point to the Leafs, Coyotes, and yesteryear’s Blackhawks and Rangers as shining examples of how teams fail, in terms of wins and losses, and an inability to advance deep into the playoffs. Levenson can point to markets like Florida and Columbus, and even Boston and NJ in their lean years, for a woeful lack of attendance, without those owners in those markets being punished.

Acer

February 8th, 2011
6:36 pm

Bob McKenzie has an interesting piece on Bogosian. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=353002

“there has been a fractious and counter-productive relationship between new Thrasher assistant coach John Torchetti and Bogosian and it may have festered too long before being addressed internally by the Thrashers.”

“the whole dynamic between Torchetti and Bogosian has been much talked about in NHL circles”

Iron League 13

February 8th, 2011
6:37 pm

Well, I think I’ve harped on ASG plenty and will continue to do so, but I think there’s some validity in harping on the NHL too. I’ve recently started stating the obvious about feeling out prospecitve franchise owners commitment which should rank just as highly as the necessary funds to acquire such a thing, still I’ve got another gripe with the league….

CARELESS EXPANSION. I’ll be the first guy to speak up for the hockey initiated transplants of the north and relocated Cannuckians too (yes, their down here) in these “non-traditional” markets, yankee kids like me and the aforementioned hockey hungry demographics deserve professional hockey in their new locales so long as it’s viable. Having said that, yes, yes I wholeheartedly think sunbelt hockey has been viable over at least the last 20 years and moreso now. Even still, it’s an uphill battle (that really goes without saying) and the league’s gotta know that as well as anyone. So in Bettman and Co.’s pursuit of far reaching expansion where was there commitment? Where is it now? I don’t need to elaborate, we all know what I’m saying, but did they ever really strategize? Did they ever attempt to make certain it would succeed so as not to hear the guaranteed “I told you so(s)”. No. they didn’t and that’s both pathetic and tragic.

Iron League 13

February 8th, 2011
6:39 pm

they’re down here rather…grrr happy fingers and english variations/mergers or whatever

Iron League 13

February 8th, 2011
6:41 pm

where was their commitment rather….sorry if I screwed up more with there/their/they’re

Iron League 13

February 8th, 2011
6:45 pm

Brendan – I like that revenue withholding idea. Sanction em basically, good i-deer.

ZAvalanche

February 8th, 2011
6:46 pm

Worst sporting year ever. Started with the Broncos then Thrashy and the Avs started off well so I thought “ok, I can deal with that 2/3 isn’t bad”. Then stuff hit the fan and now I end up getting teary-eyed pretty much every night.

Red Light

February 8th, 2011
6:47 pm

IL 13

Excellent point. In retrospect, not only did they expand too fast, but too much. The league would be much better off with four divisions with seven teams in each, or 28 teams, than 30. Ideally, it really would be better off with 24.

The interesting thing to me is…if the Coyotes, Islanders, Panthers, Thrashers, etc. relocate, than what are the viable options? Quebec, Winnipeg and Kansas City all had teams and watched them leave. Why try that again?

That leaves such places as Portland, Seattle, Omaha, Las Vegas, a second team in suburban Toronto? Those choices don’t excite me, and don’t exactly scream hockey. Maybe the league should consider dropping two teams?

Thoughts?

TY Smoothie!

Joe Friday

February 8th, 2011
7:02 pm

“From Sports Business Daily: Average viewership of Thrashers games on FS South and Sports South this season is 6,000 households per game. ”

Last time I saw figures was mabye a season or two ago and it was 2800 households per game. These #s should be an eye opener for those deluding themselves into thinking the compelling reason that the NHL will keep the Thrashers here is because we’re the 8 or whatever TV market. I guess we can look for professional curling to take hold here as well, we’re the #8 TV market, right? Doesn’t matter if no one wants to watch it . . .

So how come we have to hear about the fractious relationship between Torch and Bogo from a writer in Canada if it’s such common knowledge?

No way they trade Bogosian unless the return is huge. You know what, I had forgotten he was the #3 overall pick (his play made me forget)

Brendan

February 8th, 2011
7:03 pm

I hate to say it, but markets like Detroit, Boston, and NY Rangers have sucked LONGER and BEEN MORE IMPORTANT to the NHL than Atlanta. Any Red Wing fans remember the ’80’s? They were the DEAD THINGS. The Bruins got down for a while in the 90’s, and early 80’s, if I’m recalling correctly. The Bruins last Cup was 1972. The NY Rangers went 54 years, from 1941 to 1994 before they won a Cup. And NYC is the # 1 market in the country. No NHL President or Commissioner stepped in to help the Rangers. And can’t we say that a market like Chicago was important? They just went 49 years between Cups, back to 1961. That franchise was, perhaps, the most mismanaged of ANY significant market team.

It pains me to say it, but I don’t see help on the way. The “help” will be new ownership. And new ownership doesn’t guarantee anything. I remember back in 1997, when the NHL announced plans to award expansion franchises, with Atlanta one of the markets of consideration. When it was finally announced that Atlanta would be getting a team, I jumped for joy and began immediately plotting how long it might take to win a Cup. I sat there, earnestly plotting lottery draft finishes and pieces acquired from them, and speculating that if … all goes according to plan, that 2006 or 2007 could be a CF or even a Stanley Cup season, if the team were properly assembled via the draft and trade deadline moves. I was immediately counseled by a Blackhawks fan, “All the plotting and conjecture in the world won’t matter if you don’t get the right ownership. Who’s going to OWN this magnanimous franchise in Atlanta?” I said, “we don’t know yet, but I have to think Ted Turner is in the running. And he’s a billionaire. He likes to win. Look at the Braves. This Stanley Cup is comin’ to Atlanta, I tells ya.”

Shoulda listened to that Blackhawk fan. He was wise. He was well experienced in the ways of pathetic, hopeless ownership. If the NHL wouldn’t help Chicago, an “Original Six” market saturated with hockey fans, then there’s little hope for us. We must pray for a sale. A sale is our salvation.

ZAvalanche

February 8th, 2011
7:13 pm

Seattle, Portland, Vegas could all support teams. Kansas and Omaha I doubt could. Houston might be able to as well. Austin and San Antonio are out of the question. Toronto could handle another team. Salt Lake maybe. It would most likely have to be a City that already has the infrastructure.

ZAvalanche

February 8th, 2011
7:23 pm

It is a viscous cycle. Ownership won’t invest without serious fan support and the fans won’t support a poor product and it is difficult to attract big talent, obviously, without the big paychecks. Add to that the development it takes drafted players to actually be good in this league.

Additionally there is no real leadership on the team whatsoever. Floundering.

Brendan

February 8th, 2011
7:33 pm

I really do wonder if the NHL needed to expand past 24 teams, Red Light. That’s four divisions of six clubs. Makes the division champion a bit more relevant. The league nicely divides into 12 teams per conference. And maybe the concept of a 7-team playoff field, per conference could be explored?

The way a 7-team playoff system works is for the Top 3 seeds to get a 1st round bye. Teams 4-7 then play # 4 vs. # 7 and # 5 vs. # 6 play in a best-of-five series. The winners meet in another best-of-five series for to establish the 4th seed. Then we play # 1 vs. # 4, and #2 vs. # 3, in the usual best-of-seven series. The winners meet in the CF and one emerges into the SCF from there. People would still scream, “seven out of 12 make it in! That’s too many!” But with a salary cap and parity, it should be a very dynamic finish to the season, with tie-essentially establishing the Field of Seven that go to the playoffs.

I never like identifying which markets should stay and go, Red Light. At first glance, there are a lot of teams in the NY/NJ area. Is that saturation? With teams in Buffalo, Toronto, Pittsburgh and Ottawa, do we really need one in Columbus? What is the purpose of hockey in the middle of a desert, unless people there were screaming for it, with 5-years worth of pre-paid season tickets? When people say Nashville, Tennessee … how many of us think hockey?? That’s four. Two more to go. Anaheim, they say, is a suburb of Los Angeles. I don’t know if that’s true. But those are two teams in pretty close proximity, not separated by a national border. That’s five. Is Miami, FL known as the hockey Mecca of the south? Ten years and counting, without a playoff berth. That’s six. NYI, Columbus, Anaheim, Miami, Phoenix and Nashville. That leaves 24 clubs. Personally, I’m glad there are 30 markets. And those markets could get healthier if the NHL’s accountants would just be HONEST about their bookkeeping. If the cap were set at $50 million for the next five years … pretty much all markets could catch up.

HillMan

February 8th, 2011
8:12 pm

Why are so many folks getting so upset on this blog. In order for us to have a chance this year the equation was simple. We needed to score around 3 goals per game (248 goals) and give up less then 3 per game average (some where around 210-220) to have a playoff shot. If everyone on our opening day roster scored their career best in goals, we would have gotten around 185 goals – we are having a good year based on those numbers. Our goals against average is 3.16 through 56 games. Again, no surprise based on us being one of the worst defensive teams in the league for years and we only added Buff (not known for his defense) and Sopel. No real defensive upgrade.

Combine the poor opening day talent to achieve these goals with the lack of depth and no farm system to speak of, and we probably got more out of this team then we should have expected.

With that said, we are heading in the right direction, just under manned. Let’s not make stupid trades now. We should focus on the next 2-3 years. The issue is not how we look now, but whether this group of GMs, VP and scouts can assess talent for the future and build the depth we need to compete.

Tom Lysiak

February 8th, 2011
8:17 pm

Haaaaa!!! The Hawks are getting killed by the Sixers in an empty arena. Serves the ASG right. Put all your eggs in the Hawks basket and they still suck. Karma???? It’s like letting the world know you have a favorite child and ignoring the other one. Losers.

On another subject, that Acer nugget about Torch and Bogo explains a lot to me. Not good.

Tony C

February 8th, 2011
8:18 pm

This team is making Chuck Norris cry.

Amen.