Tasty turnovers in Toronto continue Thrashers tumbling trend

The Maple Leafs have this thing with waffles…but for the Thrashers, its turnovers.

Monday night in the Air Canada Center, they served up more turnovers than any bakery found in Toronto and were giving them away all night long to those wearing blue jerseys. Taking advantage of the visiting team’s generosity, the Leafs then helped themselves to a tasty 5-4 win over the Thrashers.

While there were many candidates to choose from, this night’s clear winner of the Platinum Pastry Award for the single most egregious turnover of the game goes to…tearing open the envelope…defenseman Dustin Byfuglien.

Mikhail Grabovski politely raises his had to ask for more turnovers from the Thrashers. Unfortunately, they were more than happy to oblige (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Frank Gunn)

After scoring a goal, Mikhail Grabovski politely raises his had to ask for more turnovers from the Thrashers. Unfortunately, they were more than happy to oblige (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Frank Gunn)

For those who were not able to see the play that de-knotted a 3-3 score early in the third period, Big Buff attempted to casually backhand the puck over to the right side boards to Johnny Oduya. Unfortunately, what Byfuglien accomplished was a beautiful pass to Toronto’s Nikolai Kulemin…who then neatly tucked the gifted puck under a surprised Ondrej Pavelec.

Kulemin, I’m sure, will do the right thing and follow up with a nice Thank You card to the Thrashers defenseman.

Five minutes later, Tim Stapleton…who should be arrested and charged with impersonating an NHL player…played hot potato with the puck in the corner and lost the puck. That turnover led to a Tim Brent goal, making it 5-3.

An Andrew Ladd jam-in at the 11:01 mark got the Thrashers back to within one, but in the end it was the Maple Leafs that pulled the win out of the oven…even though they failed to put the icing on top by way of an empty-netter.

Forward Fredrik Modin left the game in the second period with an upper body injury. The bad news here is given the Thrashers don’t play again until Friday and the way their luck has gone lately, there’s a better than even chance he doesn’t even miss a game.

The loss drops Atlanta’s record to 0-3-1 coming out of the All Star break, 4-7-4 in 2011 and 5-11-5 since the last time they played in Toronto back on December 20.

Their 24-22-10 record leaves them at 58 points along with the Carolina Hurricanes, who were idle Monday. However, the Canes now have three games in hand and will take to the ice twice this week before the Thrashers play again Friday against the Rangers.

Buffalo is only five points behind Atlanta and has five games in hand while the Panthers trail the Thrashers by six with four in hand. Both of those teams have games on Tuesday and on Thursday the play against each other in south Florida.

Meanwhile…back in Thrasherville…rumor has it general manager Rick Dudley has been seen out on his balcony play the fiddle. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but he needs to bake up some sort of deal soon to help this team before the season is completely cooked. Otherwise, come April 11, these Thrashers will once again be enjoying turnovers and other pastries while they await their tee times.

And as good as turnover pastries are… that would be tough to swallow.

By: Bill Tiller – AJC.com Thrashers Fan Blog

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Adam

February 8th, 2011
10:06 am

It used to be “As long as Waddell is in the house I’m staying in mine” now it’s “As long as FUBAS owns the house I’m staying in mine”

I’m done with investing my heart into this team when the Owners & Players don’t.

There is no way the League will step in until the Phoenix deal is complete. Even then they wont probably do a thing unless FUBAS goes into bankruptcy. Based on the language we’ve heard from the side comments given by the NHL brass they’ll entertain a buyer that moves the team before doing anything to that’s keeps it here.

The person to blame for this mess… Ted Turner. He sold out Atlanta in every conceivable fashion on his way to the greener pastures of Kansas, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, Oklahoma, and South Dakota or wherever he calls home now.

Rawhide

February 8th, 2011
10:11 am

Somewhere out there, J Roenick is smiling

FfC:lol:

Sage of Bluesland

February 8th, 2011
10:13 am

h: “…No commitment from management and ownership? no commitment from me. I pay too much money to see that crap on the ice….”

Amen, h. A real Atlanta Thrashers fan. I hope more and more join you and give these owners what they deserve. Only the opposing team’s fans should be in those stands.

I know Gary Bettman’s plate is full, but an extreme boycott could bubble the Thrashers situation to the top of the queue….I’m willing to try and see….

Sage of Bluesland

February 8th, 2011
10:16 am

“…The person to blame for this mess… Ted Turner….”

I think this to be more correct than not (as crazy as it may sound on initial glance). The franchise was born into chaos–and it has never had the requisite attention and resources. The last we saw of him was when the name of this forlorn franchise was chosen….After that, gone.

A real shame.

Joe Friday

February 8th, 2011
10:22 am

Buf is reverting back to what he did on D in Chicago. He would make lazy plays and disappear for stretches. Moving him up front fixed that, but they also had a hell of a lot deeper d than we have (understatement of the year).

Only trade Dudley should make is for someone that has RFA years left on him, or is signed for at least a couple years past this year. Top 2 dman or top 6 forward, or forget it. No rentals needed.

At the beginning of the year I figured this lineup would play this year and come together as a core under Ramsay’s system and then they’d add a couple key pieces by next year to be more competitive. That strategy can still play out, but we need a different coach, he’s not up to the task. But something else has changed here. Dudley was very vocal last summer and during training camp about his plans and his players and his coach. Something has changed here. The silence from ownership and Dudley is deafening.

I recommend going to as many games as possible the rest of the year.

Kovy's Agent

February 8th, 2011
10:22 am

Yeah, the Buff turnover was some classic stuff, but as Rawhide noted it was just the crown jewel on a night replete with turnovers. Stupid decision after stupid decision makes one wonder what is being taught, or better yet is anyone still listening? Also, has anyone noticed Bogo looking more and more like Sopes on the ice? Hunched over the puck, afraid to skate with it, looking desperate to get it off his stick like it’s a hot potato and usually making a hurried, ill-advised pass? For a 3rd overall pick, his regression is really astonishing.

Joe McGrath

February 8th, 2011
10:22 am

Everybody is calling Buff out on his bone-headed turn over. However, if you look at the replay of the GWG, you’ll see Mr. Kulda pulled a Bogo–he quit in the corner and assumed someone else would take his man who drove to the net and dished for the goal. We need Enstrom now more than ever. Can’t they wrap that hand?

h

February 8th, 2011
10:26 am

Sage…..I’m a huge hockey fan and really don’t want to see this franchise leave, but I work hard for my money and I just feel like I am giving it away right now…..I share 2 sets of tickets with a few other guys and right now I have tickets to all of the remaining games except one, but I am so not interested in going, it is disgusting. The boys have been playing poorly for 2 months and nothing has been done other than to call up some poor talent from Chicago. Cormier should be trading time with Boulton, Thorburn and Slater (when healthy) on that 4th line. First line should be Ladd, Little and Bergy. Second line should be Kane, (Penner maybe?), and (another trade or Buff). Third line should be Antro, Peverley and Stewart. If Buff moves up then you need a shut down D man to add to the mix. That means we need 2-3 ready players……don’t think we have the assets to make that happen. If we can get guys with years left, it is worth dumping a couple of first round picks and a couple of “not so ready for prime time” players in Chicago (anyone but Postma and Kulda).

Smoothie

February 8th, 2011
10:26 am

Considering this team has always been miserable when it comes to rebuilding and getting worthwhile future assets for stars that get traded, why not trade Byfuglien now for a couple of picks? There must be a GM out there desperate enough to make the playoffs who is willing to add such a difference maker to his line-up…Colorado?? Rangers??

We won’t be able to re-sign Buff so what’s the point of delaying the inevitable? Just get something now while you can. Buff & Bergy to EDM for Penner & Hemsky? Our defense can’t get any worse without Buff, can it? 78 goals in the last 21 games? Perhaps Roenick was right?

Russian

February 8th, 2011
10:31 am

Ottawa tried to shop Gonchar. He is 38 years old D-man, veteran and 2 years $5.5 contract. He can be very helpfull for Atlanta. Also Hemsky and Penner will be nice. We need some help as soon as possible. But My opinion, my view is not happend this year. Owners not believe to Hockey team and PO on this year and they will not give Dudly green light(cash) to trade. I think we can go to Lottery Draft and try next year. Like always happend year by year. :-( :-(

Adam

February 8th, 2011
10:34 am

Joe, I can’t see putting a dime in FUBAS’s pocket when there plan is to shed themselves of this “franchise” or in their eyes “The redheaded stepchild they inherited when they married the Hawks”.

The day the announcement is made that the team is being sold to an entity, yet to be named, that is keeping them here in Atlanta I will be back at the Bulb with my hard earned dollars. Until then it’s the Blackhawks & Av’s on VS or Center Ice while going to Gwinnett to get my hockey fix.

GaVaHokie

February 8th, 2011
10:34 am

Actually, I liked what Kulda did… he separated the man from the puck. Somebody should have been there to pick up the loose puck.

Turnovers and the inability to clear the zone is the biggest handicap right now.

GaVaHokie

February 8th, 2011
10:36 am

Adam… the Thrashers became the redheaded stepchild with the CBA. That’s when FUBA wanted to sell the team; when they were required to spend $40 million.

Otherwise, we’d still be spending $25 million a year on team salary… the CBA; a blessing and a curse.

GaVaHokie

February 8th, 2011
10:54 am

Here you go… just retweeted from FourthPeriod through Gene Pricipe (Sportsnet)

Lots of talk about Zach Bogosian to Edm and last night two scouts from Atlanta drove to Nashville, in a mild snowstorm, to watch the game

Nashville has also shown interest in Hemsky and Fourth Period thinks that Edmonton wants Ryan Ellis in return.

Smoothie

February 8th, 2011
11:01 am

GVH – interesting. Perhaps Bogey is getting so much PP time to showcase his primary attribute, his hard shot from the point, which EDM sorely lacks without Whitney and of course, the exiled Souray. They certainly need young blueliners and our defense has never looked worse than it has in the last month and a half.

Smoothie

February 8th, 2011
11:02 am

Also, don’t forget, we play EDM later this month so perhaps we were simply scouting their dangerous line-up that has gotten them all the way to 40 points in 50+ games! ;-)

Adam

February 8th, 2011
11:03 am

Hokie, While that is probably true there has never been any real interest in hockey amongst this group of owners. When Basketball is the main focus and most of them don’t live here so they don’t even attend games. If they did go to games you’d think they may even get taken by the sport the way we have.

The product we are being sold is a direct reflection of their lack of interest. Well I’m not buying!

da' boomer

February 8th, 2011
11:08 am

Downtown ATL Hockey Fan – I am with you…but it’s getting harder.
I heard a very telling comment by Darren Eliot. He was discussing a play that Kulda made and mentioned that they ran a different system in Chicago and made that play differently. Why??? Can’t we learn from Detroit and even Nashville how important it is to have a consistent style through out the farm system? When those teams have call ups it’s a ‘plug & play’ deal. It does a team no good to have to teach a guy a new system each time he is called up. By the time they get comfortable, they are on a plane back to Chicago. And can someone tell me why we didn’t keep Clarke McArthur? He’s not Gretzky, but he beats what we have. We have absolutely no depth at any position and none in the farm system. I will continue to support the team, but i truly hate Waddell and the ASG ass-clowns. Did anyone else find it curious that Ted Turner wouldnt sell the team to David McDavid, but he would sell them to a group of idiots that included his half-witted son-in-law?

Thrashers

February 8th, 2011
11:11 am

The point system and W-L-T is what it is. We still have a winning record dammit!!!!

GaVaHokie

February 8th, 2011
11:22 am

Just tweeted from Ben Wright…

Please, please, please stop with the Hemsky talk. He’s not coming to Atlanta. I’m as confident of that as I am of anything.

Rick Dudley will be on NHL Live at 12:30p.

Macon Whoopie

February 8th, 2011
11:32 am

I wonder if Burke threatened to trade Kessel to the Thrashers

World Be Free

February 8th, 2011
12:07 pm

Smoothie-I try to go to spring training every year, not sure we will make it this year. We are baseball fans, no doubt almost as much as hockey.

Buff-n-snuff-LA Clippers!
Now that is a good one. I am former Buffalo Braves’ fan, watched the Braves become the Clippers at the end of the 1978 season. They have stunk ever since! We only have 21 more years to catch up to the Clippers’ futiliy.

World Be Free

February 8th, 2011
12:10 pm

Da boomer-the system issue between the Thrashers and Chicago Wolves has been a hot button here for some time. It is stupid to have a developmental system that varies from the parent club. Most good teams, playoff teams have some level of control over what style the farm team plays. here are a number of things that need to be changed, once of them is the farm club.

Several posters have suggested we get an AHL franchise in Gwinnett exclusive to the Thrashers. That would be great!

Smoothie

February 8th, 2011
12:16 pm

WBF – can you take me with you? I’ll ride in the trunk with my clubs and play golf while you watch high schoolers shag fly balls! ;-)

I love seeing the Braves do well, but I’ll never be as big a baseball fan as I was growing up. Even having played it through HS, I just can’t get fired up about it like I used to. Too sad to see hockey start it’s departure I guess.

da' boomer

February 8th, 2011
12:17 pm

WBF – Thanks. It seems just too commen sensical to be overlooked. I like the AHL/Gwinnett thing. We need to have all the farm teams onthe same page.

World Be Free

February 8th, 2011
12:20 pm

Smoothie-my son is a huge fan; not just a fan but a student of the game. Lots of good golf places in ORlando!

da’boomer- yeah we have all been sdaying th esame thing for a long time. Not sure how much longer our agreement with Chicago will go.

alex

February 8th, 2011
12:25 pm

Sage of Bluesland “…The person to blame for this mess… Ted Turner….”
100% correct sold hawks and thrashers to a group including his close relative for discount price. i think mcdavid intended to buy for 100 mil. more. money didn’t matter to turner. his intend been gift for friends and relatives to help them make money after they dump particularly thrashers to new buyer. i lost all respect to turner after that because of consistent torture of Atlanta hockey fans. why not buy hundred pounds carat gift for you son in live and not playing games with thousands loyal hockey fans. this is despicable Mr. liberal.

Russian

February 8th, 2011
12:40 pm

DID ANY BODY READ THAT??????
“The cat is out of the bag. We now know the Oilers and Thrashers are talking trade, with Zach Bogosian heading to Edmonton. What we don’t know is what the asking price is.

There’s been plenty of talk about the Oilers perhaps attempting to acquire Tobias Enstrom, but I actually think Bogosian is a better fit. The 20 year-old defenseman is 6′3″, 215lbs, and he comes with both toughness and some offensive skill. He’s a little Chris Pronger-like, which is good enough for me (don’t tell me Oiler fans wouldn’t love Pronger if he would have stayed). The Oilers have nothing like him currently, with the exception of perhaps young Martin Marincin, who is at least another year away from the NHL.

Would Bogosian for Hemsky straight up be a fair deal? I am thinking no. Teams don’t give away 3rd overall picks who have the potential of Bogosian. Scouts from Atlanta have been following around the Oilers for the last three games. Perhaps they have some interest in a player like Ladislav Smid to go along with Hemsky? Speaking of players hard to assign a trade value to, Hemsky is tough to analyze. Players who can score at about a .95 point-per-game clip are hard to find and acquire, but Hemsky has only this year and next until he’s UFA eligible. He’s also injury prone. Some people feel Hemsky in a deal is worthy of a 1st round pick and a roster play, and others see his value being much lower. I almost think his trade value has to be considered on a deal-by-deal basis.

Of course, we don’t know for certain if the Thrashers interest is in Hemsky. They could be targetting Dustin Penner…but that being said, Hemsky is the more dynamic player, and the Thrashers need something dramatic to improve their offense. Penner’s value in a deal is thought to be comparable to Hemsky’s, but once again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Atlanta needs the playoffs this season. The Oilers need a young leader for the defense. The Thashers don’t have the time to be patient while a young d-man takes time to develop; the Oilers have all the time in the world. It seems like a perfect fit between the teams.”

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Richard-Cloutier/Its-Bogosian/131/33495

Tom Lysiak

February 8th, 2011
12:45 pm

I just have to say this re: the Bogosian rumor. I am fully aware he has not played well last year or most of this year. I know he has been injured a lot, so it might be fair to say he might be injury prone. But, the kid played well his first year, so he has the ability. I think it is fair to say that he has not been coached as well as he could have been. He deserves some blame, but he might also be a good candidate for a sports psychologist.

I also know this. The kid was rushed to the bigs. He is still only 20 years old. I know you have to give up something to get something too. But another panic trade would be a mistake. If you can get fair value considering his draft spot, age and potential, then fine. If not, I don’t want to watch another young defenseman develop in another city for years to come.

Having said that, the potential is there that we might have to watch ALL these players from other cities via Center Ice pretty soon…..

Associated Press Reporting

February 8th, 2011
12:46 pm

Dudley Dodges Interview, Reschedules For Future Considerations

Tom Lysiak

February 8th, 2011
12:47 pm

Whoops Russian, I was typing that while you were posting it.

Smoothie

February 8th, 2011
12:48 pm

Hate to say it, but Bogosian is as good as gone. Wanna know how I know? Because I have two jerseys: one with Reasoner’s name and the other with Zach’s. Kiss. Of. Death. ;-)

Russian – if that is coming from Hockeybuzz, I guess we now know there will be no deal with Edmonton. LOL

World Be Free

February 8th, 2011
1:04 pm

Smoothie-Danicing with the devil II?

Ironic how the Thrashers started strong and are fading fast.
New Jersey started just a little slow, but coming on strong.
Never thougthh there would be a chance they could pass us.
Another 76 point season?

TrueBlue

February 8th, 2011
1:17 pm

The day I got Bogosian put onto the back of my jersey was the day he started to be terrible…ugh.

Smoothie

February 8th, 2011
1:18 pm

Here were the line combos for the last three ES Toronto goals:

Cormier Little Bergie Kulda Sopes
Ladd Thorbs Bergie Oduya Big Buff
Cormier Stapes Bergie Kulda Sopes

I realize there may have been line changes going on during the plays (as I did not see the game), but no doubt Ramsay was shuffling lines after Modin went out. Was it really necessary to keep rolling 4 different lines, which turns into 5 and 6 with all the shuffling? Just bench Stapleton & rotate go with Burmy-Thorbs-Peverley as your extra line. If Ramsay isn’t going to make smarter adjustments, then we will continue to lose rolling 4 lines with such inferior talent & youth.

DWTOO

February 8th, 2011
1:18 pm

Smoothie – We would sit at Bogey’s table on Casino Night, if we were going, that would guarantee the trade! MRS DWTOO is the kiss of death – last year she sat with Armstrong and Hedburg. GONE!

Smoothie

February 8th, 2011
1:19 pm

TrueBlue – same here. Reasoner didn’t exactly light it up last year either. But has 10 goals and 20+ points this year for a team challenged to score goals. Ay carumba.

World Be Free

February 8th, 2011
1:19 pm

I have a Mickey Mantle jersey, safe to say I don’t have to be concerned about The Mick being traded.

Russian

February 8th, 2011
1:19 pm

**to Smoothie**
Oh, yes. I know that. Hockey Buzz is very big Liar, especilly Eklund.:-)

Smoothie

February 8th, 2011
1:27 pm

WBF – ha, I chuckled on that one. I need to make my next jersey a vintage LaFontaine jersey (Buffalo of course) as I wore 16 in HS anyways. I can’t curse him by doing so although his kid is pretty good right? Perhaps I should spare his children and go with Adam Oates.

DWTOO – I may buy your wife a tkt to sit with Modin, Oduya and Mason! ;)

LAC

February 8th, 2011
1:27 pm

Everyone needs to remember Chicago is “really” not part of the Thrashers in any way. We only have an agreement with them to allow our prospects to play there in the AHL. They in no way play any Thrasher style hockey period. remember Brian Little a few years back saying he had to watch video
of Atlanta games to see how to play “our” system ?

That is a BIG problem I think. We need prospects learning The Atlanta way to play hockey games, not from a place for them, just to play, and that is what Chicago is, nothing more. They learn NOTHING there about Atlanta.

We really need our OWN AHL team in Birmingham. Run by Atlanta for Atlanta. But as we ALL
know as long as these LYING owners are still in control, that will NEVER happen.
But that is one thing that does need to change if we EVER get a commited owner.
Bring Back The Birmingham Bulls !!!!! Then they can be close and drive over if needed.

But that is way too simple for the LIARS that own this franchise, Can there be any more STUPID owners in All of professional sports ? Oh, lastly… Where is Worthless waddell HIDING these days ?
When the liars were exposed, he disappeared, Wonderful !

GaVaHokie

February 8th, 2011
1:29 pm

Russian, that wasn’t even Eklund… that was an Edmonton blogger on Eklund’s site… even less credible.

… No offense Rawhide. ;)

Brendan

February 8th, 2011
1:30 pm

R.Stroz, what’s the tune that the AS,LLC songbird sings?

GaVaHokie

February 8th, 2011
1:31 pm

It’s pretty sad when the only classic jersey you can wear for the Thrashers is maybe a Dan Snyder jersey… maybe Ferraro… Odgers?

Kovalchuk, Hossa, Heatley, Lethonen… can’t really wear any of those proudly.

Smoothie

February 8th, 2011
1:43 pm

Only if they say “Chicken Parm” or “the Sheriff” on the back Hokie! :)

moriler

February 8th, 2011
1:44 pm

Booger for Penner? Meh. I disapprove.

GaVaHokie

February 8th, 2011
1:53 pm

Kevin Allen set them straight…

From twitter…

Eklund… Just did a podcast with @kausatoday that will be posting shortly. Nothing to the Oilers/Thrashers Rumors at this time…

Smoothie

February 8th, 2011
2:07 pm

I don’t know what’s more surprising: that Eklund would admit to being wrong or Kevin Allen actually agreeing to discuss anything with that hack??

Alan R.

February 8th, 2011
2:07 pm

I don’t believe a word that comes out of Eklund’s computer. I’ll wait for Kevin Allen to say something.

Joe McGrath

February 8th, 2011
2:11 pm

@LAC. I’ve been pitching about the Bham connection for years. BJCC sits empty. Bham has hockey history. Bham only has Barons AA SLB, nothing else to do in Bham after football season ends. Bham averaged 3K for weeknight ECHL, had 5-10K on weekends. Bham ECHL franchise was sold to owners who lied to the fans saying they were intent on keeping the Bulls in Birmingham. It was later made known they bought the franchise knowingly to move it to Atlantic City.