Could it be the Mayflower trucks aren’t coming after all?

Are you sitting down?

No, I mean it. I want you to be sitting, reclining or in any other way positioned so that, were you to lose conscience or simply become a little woozy, you won’t fall and hurt yourself. Same concern goes for those of you who may be tossing back a glass of orange juice or sipping a warm cup of coffee. I’d just hate for you to ruin a good keyboard or laptop because you spewed your morning beverage all over it and/or yourself after I drop this little info-bomb on you, the good citizens of Thrasherville.

Alrighty-then. Now that you’ve been properly warned and you’re prepared for this… here goes.

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It has come to my attention that the Atlanta Thrashers will not…repeat…will NOT be relocating to Winnipeg, Manitoba. They will not be moving there before Friday’s game against the Flyers…not just after the All-Star game…not just after this season is over…not over the summer…not before next season…and not by next New Year’s Eve.

In fact, it is entirely possible that…and I really need you to brace yourselves for this little piece of 411… the Thrashers organ-I-zation are not relocating there or anywhere else, be it north of the border or otherwise, ever.

I know…I know…this must come as a complete and total shock to many of you out there in Thrasherville’s vast blogosphere. For oh-so many years, we’ve been preparing ourselves for the inevitable news of our team’s relocation. We’ve been mentally preparing for the morning in which we’d wake to the dreaded news that the Mayflower trucks had backed up to the practice facility at the Duluth Ice Forum in the middle of the night, packed and loaded up all things Thrashers into there cargo holds and commenced to haul our franchise off to the frozen tundra of Manitoba.

We have shivered in fear of this event, of course, because of all the reports from the Canadian blogosphere that have reported of our team’s imminent relocation for quite some time now. And who can blame those in Thrasherville for taking such opines to heart…I mean, what with all of their quotes from “high-level, credible unnamed sources” and all that. Honestly, it’s pretty impressive what they can crank out from the basements of their mothers’ homes in a pants-optional environment.

But this piece penned by Tim Campbell of the Winnipeg Free Press would have us…and the good people of greater Winnipeg…believe that the Mayflower trucks being held close by the Duluth Ice Forum can now be freed up for other duties. The Thrashers are, he explains, going nowhere in the foreseeable future.

Yes, that’s right my friends…a member of that city’s respected press corps has apparently come to the conclusion that maybe, just maybe, those that oversee the National Hockey League may just be of the frame of mind that the franchise might be better suited to remain in the capital of Georgia instead of uprooting to the capital of Manitoba.

Oh, it does appear to be painful for him to write the observation, and he does take the usual to-be-expected swipe at hockey fans and attendance issues here in Atlanta. But he does say it nonetheless, and for that he deserves a great deal of credit and kudos for doing so while residing in the city of Winnipeg.

Here is the meat and potatoes of Campbell’s write up:

Despite what “hot rumours” or buzz is out there courtesy of television panel discussions or tweets or blogs or columns, Atlanta Spirit doesn’t have a gun to its head nor is it in bankruptcy or up against any other critical deadline.

It has none of the urgency for a hockey solution that was required in Glendale, where the NHL refused to own the team any longer.

Atlanta has an owner/owners. They have resources. They own their arena. The have no external force pressuring their hand. Internally, they may or may not want to divest themselves of hockey but the panic of the Glendale plot is missing completely.

As well, the NHL is not presently interested in another franchise stability saga, especially since it hasn’t put the Coyotes matter legally and completely to bed just yet.

And there’s also that little item that whatever Atlanta Spirit may wish to do, it has the authority to do just about none of it without the collaboration, blessing and royal assent from commissioner Gary Bettman’s New York office.

If Bettman has a divine plan to this effect, he certainly hasn’t shared it with anyone at True North Sports and Entertainment. The folks there have been, shall we say, entertained by the recent buzz and rumours but have assured that not so much as a preliminary conversation about the potential has taken place.

So while Bettman’s deputy Bill Daly may be at-large saying some odd-but-true things about the Atlanta market, arena and fan dedication looking forward, the commissioner is on the record in words and deeds that he will go to all pains to keep franchises where they are and their values up.

As it stands today, none of that adds up to an appearance of the Thrashers in Winnipeg on Friday, by the end of the month, by Easter or even next fall.

Recently, some of our friends who run the cyber-rumor mills up in Canada-land have pointed to recent words spoken by Bill Daly regarding concerns over the Thrashers franchise. They cling to his words like Linus van Pelt does to his blanket as reasons to believe this team will soon make it’s way to town. “He must be sending us all a signal”, they insist. “Start printing the tickets”.

Of course, it could stand to reason that the deputy commish was simply trying to skirt around the question without saying something insensitive like, “Move a franchise from Atlanta to Winnipeg? Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha…”

“Wait…what…you’re serious. Have you been smoking moose droppings”?

However, Campbell wraps up his fine piece by addressing the persistence of the Great White North’s Blogmasters, regardless of what the “accuracy meter” shows in the wake of prior predictions. Their prognostications of the Thrashers shuffling off Winnipeg, he feels, are just as far off as when they insisted the Coyotes would be calling their fair city home just after last year’s Winter Olympic Games had concluded.

Of course, when that “deadline” came and went it was then surely to happen by Easter.

And then when that failed to come to fruition, it was September.

And most recently, it was certain to happen by some arbitrary December 31 “deadline”.

Anyway, as Mr. Campbell says…

We are a nation of coaches and general managers, 30 million strong. And some with blogs or websites or other audiences that think we’re smarter than franchise owners and executives.

In recent times, it seems that everyone and anyone paying attention to the NHL question in Winnipeg is looking to book some “I-told-you-so,” moment or prediction to be trotted out for credit when eventually the NHL comes to its senses and comes back to a hockey market.

Truth be told, the “I-told-you-so” theories aren’t worth much when the 2,247 others (equal to the number of days the MTS Centre has been open) haven’t turned out so well.

Indeed.

However, I’m sure those who make up Canada’s vast collection of cyber-“wanna be” journalists will continue to work at a feverish pitch generating tall tales of the impending relocation of [insert name of city with an NHL franchise they feel are unworthy to have such here] to [insert name of Canadian city that “deserves” an NHL team far more than anyone else below the Mason-Dixon line here]. And Campbell’s recent write up probably won’t discourage any who remain devoted in their faith of what the Winnipeg blogosphere continues to preach.

For a prime example of this, I point to the handful of comments posted below the writer’s article.

Again however, I warn you to hold off partaking of your morning beverage until after you do so. Otherwise, you’re likely to snarf hot coffee through your nose trying to hold back an outburst of uncontrollable laughter. And I would hate to feel somehow responsible for any singed nose hairs suffered by you while reading the words of those still beholden to such rumors.

73 comments Add your comment

Tom Lysiak

January 12th, 2011
5:10 pm

Red Light – Yep, I saw the list you posted yesterday. That was what prompted me to ask your opinion. I was also curious how “committed” you thought we might be to pay the price for the right guy. Agree on Zajac for sure. Thanks again!

HookyBob

January 12th, 2011
5:49 pm

Having actually attended a Winnipeg Jets game (Selanne was but a kid),…I suspect I have insights into one problem they face. They will support good hockey. Winnipeggers, my 97 year old aunt Mildred included, are not like Toronto fans who fight for tickets for mediocre (at best) hockey. I Bet JP Viger, Garnet Exelby, Shane Hnidy & even Jonathon Toews would concur. Whoooo,…what do you know,..I bet Atlantans would support good hockey too!!!

How about this weather folks. Monday had perfect conditions for Hookybobbing,..except today’s cars don’t have anywhere to grab onto.

World Be Free

January 12th, 2011
7:14 pm

I would like Zajak, but there’s no way the Devils will let him go. He is one of their few young players. Moulson and penner should be our targets, they are both left wingers and that’s where we need help. Kovalev? Great skills, talent and a real desire to get out of Ottawa right now. Senators feel the same way, he could be had for a 5th round pick right now.

Hooky, Winniperers are great people, much different than the folks in Tronna or Quebec. I felt bad when they lost their team and hope they can get one back someday, as long as it’s not the Thrashers!

Razor-if you remember, the rink was pretty full the first few seasons before people were turned off by a bad product. I think the out of towners will come back like I did. I took a 4-5 year hiatus from the Thrashers then came back, all we need is the rest of us to come back and we will be fine.

Zoomo

January 12th, 2011
7:31 pm

I like Red Light’s list. I’ve always liked Penner. Would love to see him here…all 6′4″ 245 of him

Cherokee

January 12th, 2011
8:03 pm

Rawhide, I enjoy your posts, but easy up on the length, man. There’s so much good info in there but 1,400+ words is rough to read after work :-)

glovesave29

January 12th, 2011
8:36 pm

Here’s why the NHL stays in the “non traditional” markets of LA, ANA, PHX, DAL, ATL, NSH, TB and FLA…total population of those metro areas is approaching 40 million (and growing).

Canada’s total population is 34.5M.

Zoomo

January 12th, 2011
9:06 pm

Watching Caps/Bolts….that Tampa arena has terrible lighting. Always looks bad on TV

Brendan

January 12th, 2011
9:55 pm

The Mayflower trucks may be not be coming, (and I never thought they were,) but I still holdout hope that new ownership is coming. It’d be one thing if this ownership changed the way they did business. With the lawsuit now settled, I think some people are looking for some form of evidence to demonstrate this ownership’s renewed resolve. Something other than words that show, definitively, “These guys are committed to the pursuit of the Cup.” That evidence ‘could’ come at the trade deadline. Perhaps sooner. I’d welcome it. I encourage people to engage in “self-help,” and to be honest about the mistakes they’ve made in the past, and to outline a plan of action to correct those errors. It’s just, with the “Heptacluster,” (Copyright 2010-11, poster Brendan, all rights reserved at U.S. Library of Congress,) I just don’t see a track record that supports that. With the Heptacluster, the words and deeds don’t seem to correspond with one another. However, that doesn’t mean they can’t change. But they’d have to WANT to change. They’d have to WANT to care about hockey. They’d have to INSERT the word “accountability” into their dicitionaries. And while they’re in there, they should visit the word “commitment.” That’s something that’s not supposed to change … from year to year, and situation to situation. My dictionary lists this for the verb, to commit: to promise resources: to devote or pledge something such as time or money to an undertaking.” Fine by me, if the Heptacluster wants to mozy down that road. It wouldn’t make everything that happened prior “okay,” but it’d be a fantastic means of reparations.

B. Thenet

January 13th, 2011
12:20 am

The hockey mad fans of Winnipeg are an easy group for us to take shots at. They attack us mercilessly, insult our fanhood, delight in our failures, and want to take our team from us because they think we are unworthy of having it.

They on the other hand are tortured by sloppy Canadian journalists who make up stories, have been involved in one of the great sports teases of our times with the Phoenix bankruptcy situation, and like the swallows returning to Capistrano….every Spring brings the newly minted rumors of a new team that will be relocated to Winnipeg for the following season…for the 4th or 5th season in a row now.

What can we do about it?

Ignore them, they are in their own version of hell. If you love the Thrashers, go see them…as often as you can. The resurgence in the team has been a blessing, the current streak of 14,000 plus attendance has been great as well….nice to be able to see these guys in a relatively packed house for the first time in a while.

Just remember that despite Rawhide’s likely correct dismissal of relocation rumors…nothing is set in stone. A team was taken from this city before, and there is no guarantee that it will stay here forever. Enjoy the team, enjoy live hockey, and don’t worry about the rest.

UGASlobberknocker

January 13th, 2011
8:46 am

Yesterday I posted a comment on the column in the Winnipeg paper. a copy of that is posted above.

I checked back today. Only one other comment had registered..and the thumbs up/thumbs down approval score was 3 up 2 down. Im guessing 3 Atlanta ups and 2 Winnipeg downs.

Interestingly, I posted another comment about thirty minutes later that the moderators chose not to post..It was not inflammatory, but I pointed out these facts:

1-based on 2009 census estimates, metro Winnipeg’s population of 633k would, if the city were in the US, place it as the 83rd largest metro area, situated between Greenville,SC and Wichita,KS.. for us.. a good local comparison..Winnipeg is about the same size as metro Chattanooga. I say city but using metro numbers

2-the smallest American city with a major league franchise was Buffalo, the 50th largest metro area with roughly twice as many people as Winnepeg.

3-I listed about a dozen American cities that a/did not have an NHL franchise b/ did currently had at least one major league franchise in NFL,MLB, NBA. and c/ had at least twice the population of Winnepeg.

4-Asked what reason would the NHL bypass cities such as Seattle or even Milwaukee for a city twice as small?

Curiously, they chose not to even post it for comment ,

I posted another today asking why

Flames

January 13th, 2011
8:52 am

I’m a huge fan of Dustin Penner. I would love to see him in a Thrashers uniform. I’m not sure what
I would give up in return for him. Bergfors and Eager are up for grabs on the market. I think that is what we will offer other teams as bait.

Rawhide

January 13th, 2011
9:21 am

I wonder if Nic Bergfors has checked for any horns on top of his head. Puck Daddy’s Greg Wyshynski thinks he just might find some goat horns there.

Greg

January 14th, 2011
11:35 pm

I don’t quite get why you guys think the Thrashers should stay there, it is in the bottom 5 of the nhl for attendance and from what ive heard doesn’t make any money. Atlanta should have never got a team again after the flames left, Atlanta is NOT A HOCKEY MARKET.

R. Stroz

January 15th, 2011
9:57 am

R. Stroz

January 15th, 2011
9:57 am

Greg

January 15th, 2011
3:33 pm

ATLANTA DOESNT CARE ABOUT HOCKEY!, they care about the falcons and the hawks

Hoof Arted

January 15th, 2011
6:30 pm

Greg, serioulsy dude, what the hell do you kn ow about what we in Atlanta care about. A lot of us care deeply for hockey and our Thrashers. A lot of us care for ALL our sports teams. We can do that ya know because, well, we have a city with fans that can HAVE four major sports teams. You stooge.

Greg

January 15th, 2011
8:19 pm

Atlanta isn’t a hockey market, its been proven like 20 years ago and hasn’t changed, how many fans do the thrashers really have?, like 200 maybe if that and the rest of the people there are the other teams fans

Hoof Arted

January 15th, 2011
9:02 pm

Hey Greg, if your miserable little speck of nothing town was a “real hockey market”, you’d have an NHL team. That you don’t shows your not. that we do shows we are. Winnipeg is minor league. Always has been always will be.

You are sad and pathetic with your sniveling, snot-nosed whiney ass “we deserve a team more than you do” attitude. Enjoy continuing to watch real NHL hockey from your mommy’s basement, loser.

R. Stroz

January 15th, 2011
9:55 pm

Greg cares about his right hand.

Are there even 200 people in Winnipeg?

Was Winnepeg named after a drunk Indian or Winnie the Pooh?

Greg

January 15th, 2011
10:53 pm

Id say the only 3 thrasher fans are mad, but i find it weird that more people in winnipeg watch the thrashers than in atlanta?, Just give it up and accept that the thrashers will become the winnipeg jets or the quebec nordiques.

Hoof Arted

January 15th, 2011
11:12 pm

Winni-Greg, your town is bush league. The world of professional sports has moved beyond you. Get over it. Deal with it. There is a reason the NHL has passed Winnepeg over when places like Atlanta and Nashville got teams. That’s where the future is. Winnipeg is yesterday’s news.

Why don’t you come on back next year when you still don’t have a team and let us know what new lies your idiot bloggers have dreamed up. If you believe that stuff, you are more stupid than you seem.

Rawhide

January 15th, 2011
11:19 pm

Well, this looks like as good a time as any to turn the lights out on this perticular blog.

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