This week’s winter break comes at right time for Thrashers

If there was ever a good time for the Atlanta Thrashers to have a few days off between games, this week is really it. Coming off Sunday afternoon’s 4-3 overtime loss in Raleigh, North Carolina to the Hurricanes, they will not have to face action again until welcoming in the Philadelphia Flyers Friday night.

The last time they’ve had any more that two days rest between games was back in early December when they had three days between the overtime win against Nashville on the 6th of that month and a loss to Colorado on the 10th. Since then, they have played sixteen games in thirty days, going 7-5-4 in that time. However, they are 3-5-2 in the last ten.

The Thrashers can use this winter break to rest some weary bones and give time for players like Evander Kane, Jim Slater and Fredrik Modin to heal. Kane is on injured reserve with a lower-body injury, Slater is dealing with a concussion and Fredrik Modin did not make the trip to Carolina due to a mid-body ailment.

With those three forwards unavailable, and Ben Eager serving the first of a four-game suspension stemming from his game-misconduct call during Friday night’s debacle, the Thrashers recalled Tim Stapleton from the Wolves. Traveling from Chicago with him was Spender Machacek to make his first NHL start this season. He had played two games with the Thrashers two seasons ago.

This meant that The Thrashers went into Sunday’s matinee in Raleigh with three forwards…Machacek, Stapleton and Patrice Cormier…that had 28 total NHL games experience under their collective belts. Add in rookie Alex Burmistrov, who has recently started to show some wear from his first NHL campaign, and you have one-third of your offensive unit with half a season’s experience or less.

Carolina's Eric Cole scores the game-winning goal in overtime against the Atlanta Sunday afternoon. It will be the last play the Thrashers are involved in until Friday night and the break could not have come at a better time for the team (AP Photo/Karl B DeBlaker)

Carolina's Erik Cole scores the game-winning goal in overtime against the Atlanta Sunday afternoon. It will be the last play the Thrashers are involved in until Friday night and the break could not have come at a better time for the team (AP Photo/Karl B DeBlaker)

Burmistrov has 1 goal, 2 assists and is a –5 in his last seventeen games dating back to the 4-2 loss to the Avalanche.

Atlanta’s penalty kill unit has suffered quite a bit with the likes of Kane and Slater on the mend. They surrendered two more power play goals on four attempts to the Canes after allowing five on three man advantage situations by the Maple Leafs in the previous outing. In the past four games the Thrashers have given up 9 power play goals to their opposition.

Disorganized, disoriented, sloppy, tired, unorganized…these are all words that can describe the PK of late.

Ondrej Pavelec stopped 30 of the 34 Hurricanes shots he faced. However one of the best saves of the day came in the first period from…Zach Bogosian. Bogey misplayed a pass across the defensive zone from linemate Ron Hainsey and it kicked off his skate right on Pavelec’s goal. Had the Atlanta goalie not been paying attention…shaking head and sighing heavily…oh good lord, I don’t even want to think of it.

Opie is now 15-9-5 on the season with a 2.33 GAA and .930 SV%.

On the positive side of the story…Atlanta did manage to eek out at least a point by getting the game into overtime after finding themselves on the wrong end of a 3-1 score in the second period. Unlike the disaster that was the 9-3 loss to Toronto two night’s prior, they found a way to collect themselves and work their way back into the game.

Bryan Little had a pair of goals, one on the power play and the other tying the game halfway through the third period. After Anthony Stewart’s fine play along the boards launched Little through center ice, he powered his way up the right side and beat Canes’ backup netminder Justin Peters, who was making only his seventh start of the year.

Little finished the game with the pair of goals on three shots and a +1 rating. He now has 7 goals, 8 assists and is a +11 in the last 18 games.

Niclas Bergfors accounted for the other Thrashers goal. It also came while the Thrashers were a man up. He scored after accepting a nice pass from Andrew Ladd who had made a great move on the left boards to enter the zone. I’d give you the name of the Carolina player beaten by the Thrashers team captain on the play, but it’s tough when there is no name or number to be found since the player was completely undressed by Ladd crossing over the blue line.

The loss leaves Atlanta with 51 points after 45 games played and sitting in third place in the division and seventh in the conference. The Canes now have 46 points having played just 41 games. Though they are still 5 points behind the Thrashers and below the cutoff line for the playoffs, the Canes do have those four games in hand.

To put it in a different light, Atlanta has a .567 points-winning percentage, which puts them on pace for right at 93 points. Carolina now has a .561 PW%, placing them on course for 92 points. It’s just that close right now.

So, the Thrashers indeed need to use this little winter respite to rest up and heal. Because with things tightening up…and division leading teams such as the Flyers and Stars waiting for them on the backside of the break…they’ll certainly need it. And it really could not have come at a better time.

105 comments Add your comment

rob

January 10th, 2011
11:06 am

Seeing Bergfors come around lately, I have to believe Ramsey can do anything, given the time. Don’t want to see Bergfors go now. He is back-checking and having fun, and I think he finally figured this thing out. Now, the question is who can we let go….. I say you look to one Mr. Anthony Stewart and Ben Eager. Who are you going to get? Scraching my head and wondering that my own self. You won’t ever get a trade for Hainsey, gonna have to ride that contract until it’s over. Price of HORRIBLE, INCOMPETENT, UNKNOWLEDGABLE, blah blah blah ownership/GM. Our issue on D is Meyer. We need someone who will PUSH for a spot, not just take one up. This is the perfect time for Kulda to come get some more experience! #46 looked good, rather give him his chance than Modin at this point too. If they had given the youth the spots the “fillers” took up, imagine where we would be as injuries hit us……I think we’d be better off.
Just my .02
LET’S GO THRASHERS!!!!
Bah bah bah bah bah freakin’ bah!

World Be Free

January 10th, 2011
11:11 am

Tough to make deals in the NHL these days for several reasons-
–The salary cap
–So many teams still in the hunt for playoffs
–The few out-of-contention teams trying to take advantage of those teams desperate to get to the post season often overcharge for marginal players.

I can’t think of one player acquired at the trading deadline last season that made a significant impact on the “buying” team. The NHL is becoming like the NFL where growth comes from within, draft and develop. I dont see us making an impact via trade.

razorneck13

January 10th, 2011
11:13 am

World Be Free,

Not really disagreeing with you, but here’s how I feel about Burmi and Cormier. I want them to play a lot over the next year or two…in the AHL.

The paternal side of me comes out everytime Burmi steps foot on the ice. Parts of my anatomy pucker a little and I bite my nails off, he’s so little and fragile, He’s our tiny dangling dancer and I don’t want to see the little guy get steamrolled. Basically, I want to feed him rib sticking meals and buy him a TotalGym w/ Chuck Norris included for max effect purposes (see what happens to Tavares after that).

Cormier, not so much at all in the physical dept., but again I’m a firm believer that 90% of draftees need some time in the minors and he’s not the exception. That said, if I had to get one up to Chicago for a bit, it’d definitely be Burmi. Atlanta over time should strive for enough depth so as not to rely on top draft picks right outta the gate and let them develop in the minor league system.

Dwayne

January 10th, 2011
11:17 am

before Atl. plays Friday Boston will play 3 times, Carolina, Montreal, Rangers and Washington will play 2 times, TB once. How big was that 9-3 shelacking by the leaves look now?

Dwayne

January 10th, 2011
11:20 am

I say Burmi should be on the P90X workout routine. Or find out what Kane is taking…err, I mean doing.

It's so cold outside...

January 10th, 2011
11:21 am

…that Rawhide actually brought his cats inside.

razorneck13

January 10th, 2011
11:25 am

New question: What kind of badassery could some Chuck Norris mentoring do for our tiny dangling dancer, Burmi? Stupid? Of course, but fun nonetheless.

Alan R.

January 10th, 2011
11:35 am

We have a long break, guys. We also have a very tough game against a very good Flyers team on Friday. I know, I know. It’s fun to panic. Especially on internet message boards and blogs. Trade this, trade that, waive him, blow it all up!

Or, we could just relax, ignore the resident trolls, and move on. Very tough loss yesterday afternoon, but it’s not the end of the world.

Alan R.

January 10th, 2011
11:37 am

What kind of badassery could some Chuck Norris mentoring do for our tiny dangling dancer, Burmi? Stupid?

According to the Russian media, Burmistrov exchanged contact information with Pavel Datsyuk after the 5-1 victory over the Red Wings. I expect he’ll be spending some time at Dangle’s house in the offseason.

GaVaHokie

January 10th, 2011
11:38 am

Well, not trying to be a Sage, but I can’t help but think back to 2005 (?) when Atlanta was in a playoff spot going into a February break with teams chasing (games in hand) and Atlanta came out of the break, out of a playoff spot. We are kind of at risk for that.

Rawhide

January 10th, 2011
11:39 am

Lemon drop the gloves – I thought he did fine…certainly didn’t embarrass himself out there. Really tough to make any decision based on one game up, though, (even though he did play in 2 games two years ago). I’d like to see more of him, to be honest.

It’s so cold – Yes, the cats are inside now, thank you. But the snow was piled up so high on the deck that they were hard to find this morning. I had to look for the three “bumps” in the snowdrifts back on my deck.

NOTE: The above-mentioned comment regarding cats is an example of what many in our society refer to and recognize as “a joke”. No cats were left out in last night’s snowstorm at the Rawhide Ranch. In fact, all three of Mrs. Rawhide’s cats were cuddled up at the foot of the bed enjoying the convenience of indoor heating and flannel sheets. Please spare my online editor Chuckey any unnecessary e-mails of outrage and complaint. Thank you.

Dwayne

January 10th, 2011
11:41 am

We will have a better picture Friday night after the Philly game.
If Hokie P. Clisters can turn the antenna in the right direction.

Red Light

January 10th, 2011
11:48 am

Is anyone else worried about Cormier’s speed, or seemingly lack thereof?

razorneck13

January 10th, 2011
11:53 am

After Chuck Norris mentors Burmi, he could score “wicked wristers” off his backhand.

razorneck13

January 10th, 2011
11:55 am

After Chuck Norris mentors Burmi, he won’t flush toilets, he’ll scare the crap out of them.

ZAvalanche

January 10th, 2011
12:07 pm

Ha! I am glad you put that comment in there Rawhide, else PETA would come calling! Back to hockey; Ladd and Buffy NEED to be resigned. Buff is killing it and losing your captain would really hurt the team next year. If you want to build your fan base you need good players and a winning team. My other team grew old and started sucking, so we broke a 450+ game sell out streak. Now that they have a good product it is getting back up as far as attendance goes.

WBF, yes, the NHL is going the route of the NFL as far as trades go. The league is so diverse and so many teams in close contention that trades will only happen with teams at the very bottom of their divisions – and the reason they are at the bottom…….. they may not have much to offer. Thrashy needs to get healthy and regroup. It is going to happen.

Joe Friday

January 10th, 2011
12:42 pm

Red Light, this lineup is fine to compete for and win a playoff round. I’d like to see some addition by subtraction, however, in seeing Eager moved and not dressed in in the room again. A healthy Kane and a Bergfors who now has seemed to “get it” will work wonders.

I expect no big moves now that they have, apparently, learned there’s no good return for Bergfors and Eager. The big additions to the lineup will probably come in the next offseason. Lock up Ladd, try to lockup Buff, but I hold little hope for that as he’s going to command quite a bit to sign, get healthy and let’s go. No, I’m not worried about Cormier’s speed or lack thereof, he’s a rook and had the broken foot set him back a bit. I am worried about Burmistrov, 4th line for him for now on.

Smoothie

January 10th, 2011
1:37 pm

Folks, don’t kid yourselves, while the future is brighter considering the talented youths like Kane, Burmy and Corms and hopefully Bogey and Macho-check, this team needs to make a move or two. Our top 4 is getting exploited on a nightly basis and Ramsay does not seem inclined to let Toby and Buff play 30+ minutes — hell, Buff doesn’t even play on the PK!!?

Anyway, even if this team makes the playoffs, your fooling yourselves if you think they can beat anyone besides Washington in a 7-game series. It may take a few more weeks but a deal will present itself. We may have to part ways with either Bergy or Bogey and perhaps even a decent prospect, so prepare yourself for that. Other than those two, what tradeable assets do we have right now other than Oduya, Sopel or perhaps Stewy if he gets hot and scores 5 more goals in a week.

The rest of them are our core and I don’t think we’ll see anyone I didn’t mention get traded. Like Red Light said, we’re not big and physical enough on a nightly basis to execute Ramsay’s scheme effectively. Look at the Boston Bruins and see how many “finesse” players like Bergfors they have: two, three at the most. This team needs a 30 y/o Modin, not a fading vet who can’t change directions before it’s too late. We need a more veteran, savvy presence on the blueline (perhaps it’s time to reunite Hainsey and Oduya as the 2nd pair and call up Kulda for some tutelage under Sopel) to help cut down on the GA and shore up our struggling PK especially.

I’m not saying this team can’t make the playoffs as currently constructed but it will take too much of a toll on our youngin’s and Pavelec thusly making advancing to the 2nd round a TALL order indeed.

LAC

January 10th, 2011
1:50 pm

Just what parts need to be upgraded or replaced ?

Zach, has not shown much the past two seasons. Even waddell said his play was sub-par last season… We need a rough & tumble defenseman, a defensive defenseman, a guy who will play more in his own end and clear the slot area. Our defense is quite mobile, but not overly tough with the physical play that is needed at times.

We need another scorer, a proven scorer or two. A couple known guys who know how to score and play the team concept.

I hope we don’t go after over 35 year old guys, that would be a waste. Glad we passed on Langerbruner… Could Iglina be had ? What D-man would fit here ?

The team has faded a bit, but the week off will help, Then this back to back with Phila. here and next night in The Metroplex, then on to Florida for last meeting there this season. Important games
for sure, that we really need to get 5-6 points out of.

Lastly, I hope San Jose nails Toronto tonight like they did us, would be VERY NICE TO SEE !

ThrasherTim

January 10th, 2011
1:50 pm

Red Light – I too have noticed that Cormier has seemed slower compared to the rest of the team. I haven’t been all that impressed with him just yet, but not discouraged either.

Other thoughts: 2-1-1 in the last 4, despite all the injuries – if you want to think positive.

I wouldn’t trade Stewart. He is really just a rookie and I think he could get a lot better under this system and some improvement along the boards.

Eager shouldn’t suit up again as a Thrasher.

I feel like Dudley might be in between a rock and a hard place with the D. Buff and Enstrom aren’t going anywhere. Hainsey and Sopel have been solid as a 3rd pair. I like Oduya a lot as a top 4 man so that leaves Bogo. He is only 20. He was a 3rd overall pick. I just don’t see how you can give up on him yet. Then again, I am not running a professional hockey team.

I actually like Modin when he is healthy (big IF as many posted in the pre-season) as a mentor and a big body in the offensive zone. I hate him on the PK. But then again, I pretty much hate everyone on the PK right now!

Bergfors looked good to me yesterday and you can’t replace his shot all that easily. It will be interesting to see what happens with him and the coach. If he is decent in the locker room, I could see him staying put. If he isn’t good, he will be traded.

Burmi – Has hit a wall. Couldn’t believe that horrible back pass with 25 seconds left in the game that almost cost us a point. I don’t understand why he isn’t making the safer play more often. If we get healthy again, I’d like to see him sit here and there to see the game from a different angle.

Right now, the #1 thing, other than Kane being hurt, I am concerned about is the penalty kill. Call the Leafs game an aberration if you want, but we simply haven’t been that good all year there except for the winning streak in Novemeber. Power Play has done better lately and I think will be OK.

It should be fun down the stretch with this team. I don’t see a fold — but I am concerned about the Canes. I hope Montreal struggles down the stretch so we can get into the playoffs and see what we can do. Honestly though, we do need to get the #6 seed so we can get Boston in the 1st round. They don’t have a dynamic offense and we could beat them over a series.

razorneck13

January 10th, 2011
2:19 pm

Nice to see most of us basically agreeing on needing forwards. While I think a trade is needed, I don’t want them to trade a d-man at all (though that might be the only way to get a good return). We may have some weaknesses back there, but IMO what we have on the blueline will suffice and is not worth the risk.

For example I can’t imagine losing Oduya or Sopel along with say…Eager and Modin for a solid top six forward and having that necessarily help us. Can anyone imagine Meyer dressed for the rest of the season filling that void? That would basically be the same as watching Stapleton fill in the gaps when guys like Bergfors get scratched (mind numbing) or when Kane is injured (sigh).

razorneck13

January 10th, 2011
2:40 pm

Cormier slow footed? I’d just say he’s average looking and that’s okay, they can’t all have wheels. He’s gonna be an asset in battling along the boards and in faceoffs, which is a good start. I can’t wait for him to get used to things and move into an office around the oppositions crease.

Again, yes I think it’d be better for a young guy like him to spend more time in Chicago, but at this point, who else would be better? There was one line change in his second game that really made me shudder though. Did anyone else notice him (and only him) nonchalantly skate to the bench during a pressuring Thrashers possession in Boston’s end for no apparent reason? If so do you know if that was justified and my eyes defied me? I was there, no replay on that one.

World Be Free

January 10th, 2011
2:46 pm

Razor-I was concerned abut keeping Burmie here after 9 games because of his size. I thought that the wear and tear of a long season would get to him abour feb 1, well it has happened a little earlier. He needs space to compensate for his lack of size. Antropov has been slowed by a hip, so he hasn’t created much room for Burmie. So this begs the question-should we have kept MacArthur to play LW on this line? Mac is having a good season in Tronna; we know the aribotration ruling was too high, but he might help here OR get someone else to play left wing on this line.

I a not concerned about Cormier’s lack of speed, since I think he brings so much more to the table in other areas, especially down the road.

Smoothie

January 10th, 2011
3:19 pm

Biggest challenge for the Thrashers? Beating teams they “should” beat, you know the ones below us in the standings. To wit:

Carolina 0-0-2
Buffalo 1-1-0 (win in OT)
Ottawa 1-1-0 (win in OT)
Florida 2-1-0 (1 lucky win giving up 55 SOG)
Toronto 1-1-0 (don’t need to remind you of anything here)
Islanders 2-0-0 (win at home in OT and a near choke in L.I.)
NJ Devils 1-1-0

Don’t you think we ought to be better than 8-5-2 against these teams? We have a record of 14-11-5 against the rest of our schedule, which is very respectable. But our inability to assert ourselves and impose our will on “inferior” teams is going to make this much more interesting than it should be probably. 17 more games against those lower teams and it’s imperative that they figure a way to win at least 11 or 12 of those IN REGULATION!

Smoothie

January 10th, 2011
3:26 pm

I don’t think Cormier has a lack of speed necessarily, it just takes him a stride or two more to get to his top gear. When at full throttle, he’s like a freight train hitting someone on the F/C. Not everyone is as blessed as Lits, Kaner and Stewy when it comes to 0-60 acceleration.

Smoothie

January 10th, 2011
3:30 pm

Trixie! A little help please! Thank youuuuu!

Puck Like A Porn Star

January 10th, 2011
3:31 pm

Can’t wait to see all those Thrashers jerseys at the Hawks game tomorrow. As long as the trains are running, I’ll see you all there!

World Be Free

January 10th, 2011
3:45 pm

Gotta remember Cormier is only 20, just like Bogo.

Sounds like “The Fly” is not doing too good in Chivago. I was hoping he would add some jump down the stretch. Too small.

razorneck13

January 10th, 2011
4:37 pm

World, I was amazed to watch McArthur as a legue scoring leader even if it was just the begining of the season. So, I wasn’t upset when we lost him, just surprised by his sudden output and I don’t regret the Thrashers decision either. Who’d a thunk? Not I, but I’d take him back in a heartbeat.

That said, I am upset with how we let other assets walk (for whatever reasons). Examples Max, Kubina, Moose and I know everyone’s gonna jump on me for this, but even Army (belly exposed, tail wagging, don’t hurt me). I’d say Max and Army are the kinds of pieces missing right now. Not to toot my own horn, but toot toot, I didn’t see enough beef entering this season even after the Chicago acquisitions because we let such solid guys go. I never would have never doubted this teams DEEP playoff potential had we kept some of those guys either, but am beginning to think it’s going to be an uphill battle if left as is.

razorneck13

January 10th, 2011
5:00 pm

Wonder what could have been had Arty stayed too. That guy had the best wheels of any large bodied hockey player I’ve ever seen. Seriously, have any of you seen anyone else that gianormous in stature haul like that dude? What could Rammers have done with him? Oh well.

rob

January 10th, 2011
5:01 pm

Army a key player?!?! Oh my. He is as inconsistent as it gets. Max, too much one way play. Kubina, getting too slow of foot. They helped us when we needed some help, but if you look at it from the point of Ramsey and what he is expecting players to do, I think you see none of them fit the mold here. MacArther didn’t want to be here IMO, soooo.
As for Freddie in Chi. Seems to me he put a good effort in camp and expected to play here (as I am sure a few more like Kulda did too). I wonder if this seeming never ending battle to get time playing up here in the bigs is becoming an issue. I can’t remember too many guys coming into the club and given a true shot who weren’t first round draft choices we gave a trial by fire too. The “depth” would be a lot deeper if we get some of these guys an opportunity to fight for a spot rather than giving Stapleton and Meyers filler spots. Seemed Kulda was a kind of stay at home clear the crease kind of player, and #46 played well the other night too. Given Eager probably has played his last game here, it would be nice to have a few guys get some looks with us.

ex-ex-STH

January 10th, 2011
5:17 pm

LAC you mentioned an interesting idea. My 13 year old son even brought up persueing Iginla. He’s got the toughness, fight and scoring that would/should fit in nice. And I also agree that some big name needs to be brought in to show Ladd and Buff that the front office is trying. Just give the Flames Bergfors and Bogosian and if a conditional 2nd or 3rd round pick, if needed.

rob

January 10th, 2011
5:18 pm

razor,
loved Arty and his wheels. Think he was a penalty magnet though because he size and speed meant a hit from him made it look worse than it was. Can’t imagine anyone seeing him coming down the wing and saying “I got this one!” LOL Human train!

Cornbread

January 10th, 2011
5:28 pm

Smoothie I agree with your analysis of the weaker teams that the Thrashers must beat them. But I would not put Carolina in the same category as those other teams and FL, although soft in my book, is better than the other 5. That leaves 8 wins and 5 losses to non-playoff contenders (including FL). The only loss I have a real problem with was Toronto but even that was an abberation. The other 4 losses came earlier in the season or against NJ when they were completely gassed.

Tampa and Washington have actually fared worse than the Thrashers against the non-playoff teams. Montreal is the worst in the East. The Rangers are in trouble the rest of the year as they only have 11 games left against non-contenders and 28 against playoff tems, 16 of those on the road.

It is the elite teams that tend to take full advantage of their weaker opponents. The Thrashers are not there yet. The Thrashers have also faced the most contenders so far and have fared quite well. Converting a few more of those 7 OTs would have them sitting a whole lot better.

Atlanta’s schedule still looks very favorable compared to the others in the East. They must take advantage of it.

Cornbread

January 10th, 2011
6:00 pm

Max, Kozlov, and Arty are not playing in the NHL for a reason. None of them, except maybe – maybe – Arty would fit into the Thrashers current system. But, he could have easily been retained by the Thrashers and was not. Right now he has 12 games and 72 PIMs in the KHL. Pass.

A big guy with wheels? Have you seen Dustin Byfuglien skate? Anthony Stewart? Both are far better than Arty.

Mac resigned for his arbitration award? No way.

Armstrong? I’ll take Chris Thorburn, Jim Slater, Patrice Cormier types over him all day.

Yeah it sucked to see Moose and Kubina go but they have not exactly been tearing it up this year for their current clubs either.

The Thrashers have some excellent young talent and veterans as well. They are being built for a long run and not just one season. They may very well be missing a couple of proven veterans up front. But, the only thing those old pieces would bring is missing the playoffs, again.

goose

January 10th, 2011
6:03 pm

Rangers just got Wolski for Rozsival

Savannah Blueland Fan

January 10th, 2011
6:55 pm

Hey guys…help out an English major here (I can’t add for sh–oh, that’s right…no cussing). Anyway, points-wise…who do we want to win tonight…Pittsburgh or Boston? Which is better for the Thrashers standings?

razorneck13

January 10th, 2011
7:07 pm

Well, see it’s not that I’m saying any of those guys I named were or are THE answer, but they are all tried and true. We can talk about fitting into systems all day, in the end players (prima donnas aside) do what the coach asks of them. Case and point look at Boults, Stewie, Thorbs, etc. these guys are having breakout years and I can only imagine if we retained some more of our roster.

So, I agree to disagree, but I’d take Colby and Max over Burmi (at this stage in his career) and Stapleton (probably forvever) anyday of the week right now. It’d be far better IMO to have to lose more than just one forward to injury before you see Stapleton. Had we retained guys like Max and Colby it could be the young guys like Burmi and/or Cormier getting their deserved ice time being rotated out as healthy scratches or doing stints with the Wolves as they learn. I think having to on those guys like we do is hurting us.

razorneck13

January 10th, 2011
7:08 pm

having to rely…sorry

razorneck13

January 10th, 2011
7:12 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AemBe3gshvs
Wheels Cornbread, Wheels. Sorry, but not many guys at 6′4″ 255lbs. move like this, definitely not Buff. I never said he was Mike Gartner or Sergei Fedorov, but the dude hums.

LAC

January 10th, 2011
7:16 pm

If we were to get Iginla for those two, I would hope to get Reger as well, Iginla does have some age on him, but we have PLENTY of cap space which means we can take his $7 Mil on without any problem. He would light the lockeroom up and make others understand what is needed to WIN !

But we need to make some changes soon…

glovesave29

January 10th, 2011
7:21 pm

Getting lines crossed up…are we talking about Arty or Army?

NO WAY Calgary gives up Iginla without a kings ransom. 5 years ago, i’d have paid it…but not today. He’s on the down side of his career.

razorneck13

January 10th, 2011
8:15 pm

Glovesave, both. I basically think it would have been a plus to have kept Army (cowering in fetal position) amongst others and as expected I’m flyin’ solo on that one. I also think Arty had serious torque applied to his crossovers along with a high ended gear ratio for being such a monolithic beast, apparently one person thinks I’m silly so far as that’s concerned.

rob

January 10th, 2011
8:27 pm

razor,
agree with Arty, but NOT Army LOL coulda woulda shoulda. I would like to see a few more guys from CHI given their chance to shine…Machecek (sp) Kulda and maybe one more but hey I am just a fan. I could do without Eager and Meyer, and Modin should be our on call guy

Michael "the abbreviation"

January 10th, 2011
9:42 pm

Did somebody ban Stendec?? I havnt seen him around lately, If so..not cool

World Be Free

January 11th, 2011
12:25 am

razor and others-don’t you just wonder if Max has an “out” clause in his KHL contract that would allow him to come back to the NHL this season? He would have to pass through waivers-just thinking.

Wolski has talents, but he also seems like a head case too. You can be sure Torts won’t be throwing roses at him when he screws up. Surprised Phoenix took Rozsival’s contract. They sure helped Glen Sather shed one of his bad contracts.

Smoothie

January 11th, 2011
12:42 am

Cornbread – c’mon man, I think you’ve read enough my posts to know I don’t think Carolina is “inferior” to our team, but they had a slow start and you’ve gotta keep those teams behind you suckin’ your fumes. Twice we botched chances to win in regulation against them and eventhough CAR played well enough to win at RBC, they were plum lucky to beat us at home.

Like Rammer has said, we’ve won some games we didn’t deserve to win necessarily and credit to the boys for finding ways to win when they’re not at their best. But we haven’t seen their best in quite some time. And fatigue and injuries affect all teams. At some point the valid excuse becomes a crutch if you don’t figure out ways to improve in spite of adversity. Some of the games we’ve lost are on account of rigidity in the system. When you don’t have the horses and can’t keep the other team in their end more regularlu, your flaws get exploited and that gets exacerbated when tweaks aren’t made to play more conservative and compensate for weaknesses that are accentuated by the loss of key players. I guess that’s the beauty of Ramsay’s system as it works when all are committed and you have the right pieces in place, but “safe is death” can be a lot more deadly when you’re thin and young and don’t have the luxury of tapping into a deep well of talent, size and speed on the farm.

Smoothie

January 11th, 2011
12:50 am

I meant twice we botched chances to win against CAR, not twice in reg. The effort was there in Raleigh but again we were victims of our own mistakes again. Had the boys beaten CAR at home like they should and either one of TOR at home or NJ on the road, we’d be sittin’ pretty.

But young teams can be frustrating, but we’re struggling as much due to underperforming vets like Antropov, Modin and Mason as much as anything.

ZAvalanche

January 11th, 2011
12:51 am

I know this is a hockey column but I just have one thing to say, which will most likely be unpopular. It kills me that $cam Newton got a title. If he was a hockey player some 4th liner would wipe that smirk right off of his face. OK, done.

Buffy has some pretty serious speed and is a very big man, wouldn’t want to run into that. Definite keeper. Hope some of you had the opportunity to see the Avs vs Red Wings game tonight (guess it is the AM for you all in Atl right now though) while being in an igloo. Nine goals and Avs took it 5-4. Nice! Thrashy and Avs are very similar in style, Thrashy just has a better keeper and the two games we played this year were split but very close on both sides.

Wolski is good but is very streaky; that trade is interesting. He played in CO for a bit and was lights-outs some nights and a goat other nights. Drive safe Thrashy fans, or just don’t drive at all!

ZAvalanche

January 11th, 2011
1:03 am

@Smoothie Yeah, young teams are really frustrating but provide some really exciting hockey. The up-side is that they heal faster and have more energy, down-side is that they are, obviously, less experienced. Love the speed and physicality Thrashy brings to the table. Can somebody please explain to me how Atl beats good teams and gets rolled by bad teams? We gotta come out thinking every game is a playoff game.