Did the Thrashers catch a break in Florida last night?

So did the Atlanta Thrashers catch a major break in Sunrise, Florida Wednesday night? Certainly the Panthers think so.

The controversy happened with 6:22 remaining in the third period and Atlanta up 3-2 on a pair of Rich Peverley goals and one from Nic Bergfors. Bryan McCabe shot from the left circle got through Ondrej Pavelec’s right side onto the line…maybe past the line.

A quick look at the play can be found towards the end of this highlight clip.

The referee behind the goal waived it of, blowing the whistle to stop the play. McCabe and the Florida bench waited for a video review from the NHL official’s in Toronto. However…and admittedly, surprisingly…no such review would be forthcoming.

Wednesday night's big players for the Thrashers Ondrej Pavelec and Rich Peveley congratulate each other after the 3-2 win in Florida. Peverley scored 2 goals on 8 shots while Pavelec stopped 33 of 35 Panthers shots. Or was it only 32? (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky)

Wednesday night's big players for the Thrashers Ondrej Pavelec and Rich Peveley congratulate each other after the 3-2 win in Florida. Peverley scored 2 goals on 8 shots while Pavelec stopped 33 of 35 Panthers shots. Or was it only 32? (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky)

Instead, play continued and the Thrashers escaped south Florida with 2 points, leaving Panthers coach Pete DeBoer “baffled”.

“It looked like a goal to me”, DeBoer commented afterwards. “I’m baffled as to why the referees, to make certain, wouldn’t have gone to the penalty box and asked that they take a look at it or Toronto would have buzzed and taken a second look at it. They look at everything else”.

Regardless, the win puts the Thrashers at 22-15-6 for 50…good enough for sixth place in the Eastern Conference.

Pavelec was again outstanding as he kicked aside 33 of 35 Panthers shots. It’s no too often that an NHL goalie can face that many shots and almost consider it a “night off”, but seeing how last Sunday he was called upon 50 times to make saves in Montreal, it may have just felt that way for Opie.

Pavelec is now 15-8-4 with a .936 SV% and 2.14 GAA.

As stated above, Peverely notched goals number 10 and 11 on the season while Nic Bergfors scored his first since December 10th …a rather fortunate bounce for Bergie as it deflected in off Panther netminder Tomas Vokoun and trickled in over the line.

Vokoun did not have a very good night at all and was lifted after Peverley’s second goal of the game gave the Thrashers a 3-1 in the second period. He departed after allowed three goals on 15 shots during 26:27 TOI.

Rich Peverley’s power play goal late in the first was a thing of beauty, however. He made a strong move out of the corner on Vokoun’s right, drove the net then knocked in his own rebound while falling to the ice. The Pevs Dispenser now has 11 goals and 14 assists on the season. He took a game-high 8 shots on goal as well in Florida.

“Peverley did a great job,” Ramsay said of Wednesday night’s offensive hero. “He took the hit to draw the penalty, then took the puck to the net. That was a real good effort from him. Take the penalty, then score. Give him four marks for that one.”

Next on the agenda is the Toronto Maple Leafs Friday night. They are struggling right now with a 14-20-4 record and reside in the cellar of the Northeast Division. The Leafs will head to Atlanta after playing St. Louis tonight in Toronto and could be in 14th place in conference if they lose to the Blues and the Islanders win in Edmonton later on in the evening.

These are the teams the Thrashers need to take of business against, needless to say. They may have gotten a lucky break in Florida last night, but generally speaking a team creates it’s own luck more times than not.

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176 comments Add your comment

hip czech

January 6th, 2011
10:12 am

I think it was a good goal, the puck is inside the net, caught up in the padding at the bottom of the goal.

I remember watching it live last night and seeing Pavs pull the puck out of the net and wondered how in the world he got away with it….either that or he picked up his contact lens from inside the goal.

waffleboy

January 6th, 2011
10:15 am

Was definitely surprised the play wasn’t reviewed, but it was so close there’s no way Florida could say it would have been overturned. That said, if I was in Florida’s skates, I’d be pissed that it didn’t at least go to Toronto. Guess they were to busy trying to figure out what was going on in the third period of the WJC gold medal game. ;-)

Joe Friday

January 6th, 2011
10:21 am

Bah, we outplayed them and had that game well in hand, it was the Panthers who were lucky to even be in that game.

Great to see the boys skating well with their legs back under them. Let’s take 2pts in a big way tomorrow night, looking for a 5-1 spanking of the Buds. Then let’s try to get a point at least in Carolina and then sit back and rest and let some teams play catchup on the number of games in hand and see where we stand at the end of next week.

If Dudley has a move to make, this weekend is it so the new guy can get in here and practice with the team during next week’s downtime.

Russian

January 6th, 2011
10:22 am

No Goal means No goal. I do not care if Panters scored that goal. We won and End of Story. We have to win at Friday. Totronto will be tired and we have to take them.
Also, Russia vs.Canada was a good game. :-)

Thrashersfanone

January 6th, 2011
10:25 am

On Pav’s second goal the play should have been called dead before Pavs skated away with it because Florida should have been whistled for the off sides. The puck came over the blueline then brought back in again (another break). Nice win for us, and now must take advantage of the Leafs coming in on a second night of a back to back. Go Thrash!

Red Light

January 6th, 2011
10:25 am

Leafs play at home tonight against St. Louis before heading to Atlanta. It’s time for a blow-out tomorrow night with the Thrashers getting another day of rest in between. The Thrashers are 14-5-2 this season with one day of rest between games. The Leafs are 0-3-1 in the 2nd game of the previous four back-to-back sets. 5-1 sounds good to me Joe Friday!

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
10:26 am

This phantom goal business is a pant load of whiney sore loser-dom. What about the 2nd period near-goal by Little when the puck ended up under Clemmensen and somehow, without the aid of a Thrasher, Clemmensen ended up inside the net. That wasn’t reviewed and perhaps should have been. Also, I think Toronto has the discretion to review a replay even when the play resumes. Should a goal be determined to have happened (wow, grammar police will be in hot pursuit over that one!) then they can halt play, put time back on the clock and restart the game. It’s rare but I’m pretty sure it has happened.

But you know, Kitty Kats do love to meow and whine! ;-)

Thrashers27

January 6th, 2011
10:26 am

Maybe the refs had blown, or were intent on blowing the whistle before the puck’s location was even in question, so they had no need to make the call to Toronto.

JB

January 6th, 2011
10:29 am

im not sure if it was over the line or not but even if it was, the call went our way and i’ll take it. lord knows we’ve been on the wrong end of A LOT of bs calls and non calls over the years.

A2B

January 6th, 2011
10:31 am

Florida also caught a break because Clemmenson definitely had a puck in the glove hand that was way behind the line before the ref blew the play dead (I believe it was the third period as well). So I guess it was evening out since the Thrashers had one missed as well.

R. Stroz

January 6th, 2011
10:32 am

The refs gaveth (the offsides goal) and they tookth away (the janitorial cleaning goal by Pavelec).

The hockey gods have spoken.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
10:33 am

Not to change subject, but I thought it interesting there was no mention of the Thrashers as a possible trade partner by Mark Everson of the NY Post. Thusly, you can bet that we’ll end up with Jamie Langenbrunner, a RW by the way, by week’s end! ;-) Gleaned from Spector’s Hockey rumour round-up: “Teams believed interested in Langenbrunner include the LA Kings and San Jose Sharks, but it’s also possible he could be dealt to an Eastern contender like Washington, Pittsburgh or even Boston.”

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
10:33 am

A2B – see my post. I think you’re referring to the rebound chance after Little hit the post in the 2nd n’est ce-pas?

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
10:34 am

Didn’t see the game – and Rawhide the link for the replay is down. But from what I have read the non-goal is still worthy of review. Nice work anyway Thrashy! And nice work by our USA Juniors on the Bronze. I know were were hoping for gold again but there are some very talented teams out there we did a good job against the offensive powerhouse Sweden! American hockey is alive and growing, Congrats Boys!

hip czech

January 6th, 2011
10:34 am

JB, I was thinking the same thing…all of those strange bounces of the boards that wound up in our net (the worse being the playoff game) and all the bad calls against the Thrashers (I still remember a home game against Boston in ‘05-’06 where the Bruins had like 10 power plays and the Thrashers none, most on bogus calls)…things are maybe starting to even out.

And, like it was mentioned, good teams create their own breaks.

Now, if only Versteeg comes in Friday as a Maple Leaf and leaves Saturday as a Thrasher.

Puckhead

January 6th, 2011
10:37 am

Checked the standings today – its still a Thrasher Win – NO GOAL! From the view on TV it looked like a preseason crowd at the game – can you say Winnipeg? Way to go Russia (can’t believe I ever said that)

philalamo

January 6th, 2011
10:42 am

Now, if we could only get the Owners to care about the Thrashers . . .

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
10:45 am

What really pisses me off is how NHL.com caters only, seemingly, to the Pens, Caps, Blackhawks, Detroit and the Rangers while other good teams are overlooked. What a poor product as it should be the face of the league.

Rawhide

January 6th, 2011
11:00 am

ZAvalanche – Try the link again…seems to be working for me now.

BTW, did I mention how nice it is to have you back with us again posting comments? Here’s to an Avs-Thrashers SCF.

Alan R.

January 6th, 2011
11:01 am

Like I said on the last blog:

McCabe’s goal was good. Higgins’ goal was not. I’m going to chalk it up to this being a “make up call” and move on. While Panthers fans may disagree (and really, why should they agree, after seeing McCabe robbed?), it is what it is. We still have three meetings between our two teams this year. Make the most of your chances.

A2B

January 6th, 2011
11:13 am

Smoothie- you are correct, that is what I was talking about. Your post just didn’t show up as I was typing mine, sorry for the redundancy.

:)

January 6th, 2011
11:20 am

Looked they like should have at least given it a review. Since you have to consider the whistle and all, it still might not have been a goal. Looked in though.

And Puckhead, I don’t think we really have room to talk considering the Panthers are averaging 3k more a night than the Thrashers.

LAC

January 6th, 2011
11:22 am

Reminded me of the Boulton goal against NJ. Same thing. We were LUCKY, but isn’t about time ???

On The Fly, had us at the end of the night, love it, ignored again.

Lastly, How can Tampa be on top in the SE ??? They have been Blasted 8-1 twice, last night and against Boston, and 6-0 at Washington… Our worst loss is 6-3.

Hope to put a GOOD WHIPPING on The Hapless Leafs Friday night !

LAC

January 6th, 2011
11:25 am

Why in the Heck would we need Langenbrunner ?????????????????????????????????????????

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
11:32 am

A2B – no worries, just wondering if there was another instance that I missed…was sort of distracted in the 3rd period.

LAC – he’s a gritty RW with much better wheels than Freddy Slowdin, why not? Low risk as he’s a UFA this summer. If he doesn’t work out over the next month, make a trade at the deadline. I’ll admit, there are other guys I’d rather have, but compared to Modin, I think Jamie has some good hockey left in him. Just throwin it out there for discussion, thanks for adding such an in depth viewpoint.

AtlFlamesFan

January 6th, 2011
11:37 am

Once the puck is dropped, the opportunity for a review is over.

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
11:38 am

Thanks for fixing the link Rawhide. That was definitely a goal but oh well, its all over but the crying! Nice work by Peverley and OP. Toronto should be a push-over for Thrashy but over confidence is a dangerous thing. Avs vs Thrashers for the cup, ouch, that would be hard for me mostly because you have a better team right now. The Avs are good but really young and our most important position, keeper, has been really shaky of late while OP has been lights out. Thrashy can be fairly comfortable with scoring a few and holding on with OP in net while the Avs need about 4-5 goal a game to be comfortable with getting a win and we all know that there are no teams in the league that can count on having 5 goals a game. We have serious issues on D here in CO. Plus we aren’t even mid way through our season and already have over 200 man-games lost to injury.

I think Thrashy has a good chance to do very well in the playoffs if you are healthy and OP is hot. No team wins the cup without a goalie that is on fire. OP has what it takes I think. Happy to see Thrash-nation alive and well. Side note: thanks for the link to the ticket deals, I have told several friends about the deals and they are taking advantage!

Zombie Steve

January 6th, 2011
11:39 am

I think it will be tough for us to pluck Versteeg from the Leafs; they seem to be more inclined to move some of their defensive pieces…

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
11:45 am

@AtlFlamesFan

That is actually incorrect – at least it was with the rules several years ago. Unlike in football where there cannot be a review after the next play is snapped, the NHL refs can award a goal after play has resumed. Doesn’t happen very often, I’ve only seen it twice, but it is allowed. And if they do award the goal even after say, 3 minutes of play, they don’t reset the clock. When I first saw it happen I was in total agreement with you and thought “how can they do that?” but it is in the rule book. That is why I was baffled, after seeing the replay, that they didn’t give it to them.

TrueBlue

January 6th, 2011
11:49 am

I have a feeling the play was called a non-goal because of the way McCabe jabbed at the puck, which I believe, Pavelec already had covered. Then again, who cares! Win for the Thrashers is all that matters!!!

World Be Free

January 6th, 2011
11:51 am

As Alan R stated earlier, Higgins was offside so it is all even.

Red light, as usual you make your case and back it up with sounds numbers. I can’t argue with your post, your numbers. Here is my point-

The two 22-year old have played well for the most part. My issue with the Caps is that the team just does not play like they have total confidence in their goaltending. Just a get this feeling when comparing the Caps with other teams that have elite goaltending, which is what you usually need to go deep in the playoffs.

js

January 6th, 2011
11:53 am

I think the biggest break the Thrashers got last night was when Buff got up and played after going into the boards awkwardly behind our net. Losing him right now could really change the way things are going.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
11:55 am

“Never mind that, according to league officials at least, all goals are reviewed via video replay in-house or in the so called “war room” in Toronto.”

From the late Jim Kelley in his SI.com column earlier this year. Panthers probably feel like they are getting red-headed step-child treatment by the NHL between this and the Colton Orr incident.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/jim_kelley/11/04/nhl.replay.review.controversy/index.html

Hoof Arted

January 6th, 2011
11:56 am

Maybe it was a goal, maybe it wasn’t. I don’t know and I don’t care, with all due respect to Panthers fans. Both of them.

Thrashers got the two points, we move on.

We talk a lot about the little things players and teams must do consistently to be winners. The goals were nice, Pavs was great again and yeah we may have gotten a break on the McCabe play. But at the end of the game, with just seconds left on the clock, there was a faceoff in our D-zone. The only hope the Panthers had was to win the draw, get off a shot to try and tie the game.

They never got a chance because the Thrashers won the FO. Who won that all-important draw for us? Rich Peverley.

Those things stick out to me.

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
12:02 pm

@Hoof

Yeah, those are the things that change the game – every coach will say that. Face offs in you own zone, 1 point ahead, with little time remaining are HUGE. Pevs was rocking it. Like your train of thought.

Midfield

January 6th, 2011
12:04 pm

It would have counted for the Pens, that’s for sure. By now, the league have raised their expectations so high that – as I noticed – they go on a 15-minute debate about every call made against them, with complete impunity.

Rawhide

January 6th, 2011
12:07 pm

Hoof Arted – Great point. Peverley won that faceoff and denied FLA even the chance to get a shot off. This is indeed an example of the “small” things that are so dearly needed in games but sometimes get overlooked.

I think the biggest break the Thrashers got last night was when Buff got up and played after going into the boards awkwardly behind our net. Losing him right now could really change the way things are going

jsbowing head, reciting silent prayer….and everyone said, “Amen”.

World Be Free

January 6th, 2011
12:08 pm

Reading the Tronna papers is both funny and scary. What gets me are statements like “Toronto deserves a great team because they are a great hockey market”. Leafs’ fans have to sit back each season and watch teams from “lesser markets” win the Stanley Cup. Talk about an entitlement personality!

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
12:16 pm

@World Be Free

Sounds like UGA fans………. No offense if you are one :)

Alan R.

January 6th, 2011
12:24 pm

It’s not just Waffle Town, either, WBF. You have people who say things like “I live in Spread Eagle, Newfoundland, and we DESERVE a NHL franchise!”

As you said, both funny and scary.

cousin Eddie

January 6th, 2011
12:25 pm

Have to commend Russia for giving all Canadians wedgies last night and stealing their gold medal. Good job Thrashers for not giving Florida a point, Carolina only got one point, and Tampa just got caught taking a dump in public. The Hockey gods were definitely on the USA and Thrashers’ side last night.

Russian

January 6th, 2011
12:32 pm

TSNBobMcKenzie
.Whitfield (BOS). M.A. Bergeron (TB) and Wilson (CBJ) clear waivers. Commodore (CBJ) on waivers, Valabik (ATL) on re-entry waivers.

We have to take Commondore. He is a good Homestand D-man. Come on Dudley make a move.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
12:37 pm

Valabik insurance in light of Byfuglien’s potential groin / leg injury from last nite? Or an attempt to clear space in CHI for future demotion when we complete a trade this weekend for the parent club?

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
12:38 pm

Russian – no offense but I think I’d rather have Valabik over Commodore, or even Kristi Yamaguchi. Isn’t he the one married to her? Or is it some other former Cane?

Red Light

January 6th, 2011
12:45 pm

World Be Free:

Perhaps the Caps real problem is that they have no one on the roster with a Stanley Cup, except for Knuble who only played 3 games for the Wings when they won in 1997-98? Their key players have had no playoff success and all are still relatively young.

Red Light

January 6th, 2011
12:46 pm

Commodore is a pro. Valabik is not.

Red Light

January 6th, 2011
12:47 pm

Bret Hedican is Kristi’s husband.

AtlFlamesFan

January 6th, 2011
12:51 pm

Yamaguchi married former ‘Cane Bret Hedican, who has retired.

World Be Free

January 6th, 2011
12:52 pm

Z-Avl I am not a big Bulldog fan, but I do know Mark Richt is the worst coach in the SEC. Five star recruits are steering clear of Athens.

Alan R-right on, I experienced that when I lived in Buffalo and Hamilton thought they were more deserving of an NHL franchise. Some folks even think Regina, SK is an NHL town! Please

Red Light-I think you are right on the mark with Washington, much better than my take on the Caps. Toss in a GM and head coach that have no Stanley Cup experience and you have a team with high hopes moving into uncharted waters.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
12:53 pm

I think Commodore should retire as well. Was never really impressed with him even the year the Canes won the Cup. Hell I had friends of mine who love the Canes tell me he stunk then. Overrated. Pass.

AtlFlamesFan

January 6th, 2011
12:53 pm

World Be Free

January 6th, 2011
1:01 pm

Smoothie-I think Commodore has been “livin” off his Stanley Cup experience for a couple seasons. The act has finally wore thin. Nice to see Columbus eating his contract and that idiot Alan Portzline (aka Pork loin).

AtlFlamesFan

January 6th, 2011
1:07 pm

@ZAvalanche
I wasn’t sure either, so I looked it up.
Here is rule 38(v) from the current NHL Rulebook.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26326

(v) Any potential goal requiring video review must be reviewed prior to or during the next stoppage of play. No goal may be awarded (or disallowed) as a result of video review once the puck has been dropped and play has resumed.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
1:07 pm

Pork loin! Awesomeness. Thanks for that! :)

Always Hoping

January 6th, 2011
1:27 pm

Luck is where hard work meets opportunity!!!!

rob

January 6th, 2011
1:28 pm

Why look at dmen? Put Meyers on waivers and bring up Kulda. Give some of our guys a break down the strech and give the kid some experience now. Zach in particular might very well benefit, and after seeing Buff crash into the boards…. Problem with Langenbrunner is he would challenge the leadership IMO, at a time when that is still fragile for us. I think we look at the Wolves for any movement, and stop finding the Stapleton’s. I am wondering what kind of hold the Wolves have on us because there is such a lack of movement back and forth there. Our farm club needs to be closer. I liked the line shake ups, think we had gone a little stale, and glad to see Antro skating well. Cormier, Kane, and Thorburn together should be terror if they can stay out of each others way!

Red Light

January 6th, 2011
1:30 pm

Smoothie:

If your friends, who are Canes’ fans, know as much about pro player personnel as you do, I am almost positive they are in last place in their Fantasy Leagues, too. :(

Commodore was a very solid performer in his day, but as you and WBF suggest, his day is now past. Not saying I want him here, but I’d sure as heck take him before seeing Boris Badanov back in the lineup. But, he’s not worth the hit, and he still has two years left on his deal. Two dozen others would make more sense than him, although I don’t see a deal for a defenseman in the near future.

They like Freddy Meyer.

World Be Free

January 6th, 2011
1:36 pm

Red Light, I’d take Freddie too I thought he was a good depth signing. I do not think Doris is every going to the see the light of Philips Arena again as a player. That #10 pick has been dispatched.

rob-can’t wait for smitty’s return to get his take on the goings on in Buffalo last week.

Rawhide

January 6th, 2011
1:36 pm

Always Hoping – “I’m a firm believer in luck. And the harder I work, the more of it I seem to have” Thomas Jefferson

Matt

January 6th, 2011
1:37 pm

@rob-why do you think leadership is still shaky/fragile in the clubhouse? Seems that should not be an issue given that Ladd has been Captain for nearly two months now.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
1:42 pm

What does Mike Commodore’s play have anything to do with fantasy hockey? :-) p C’mon man, you know Commie has been overrated forever!!

razorneck13

January 6th, 2011
1:45 pm

I saw no issue with the ref’s call on that no-goal. Didn’t see Pavs do anything to cover it up either. In fact watching the Florida announcer guy doing the little screen scribble stuff looked dumb to me…what was so visible to that guy or anybody else that I couldn’t see? I just didn’t see the puck or any controversy there.

Pevs was stellar, I love how so many of our guys can be “The Guy” in any given game. Definitely a welcome change, very entertaining.

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
1:58 pm

@AtlFlamesFan

Thanks for the research! I may be thinking of Olympic play but I have seen it happen. Doesn’t matter now, Thrashy won! Keep it up!

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
2:01 pm

Z – I’ve seen it happen and even Ed Olcyk talked about it happening in the Stanley Cup Finals last spring. There is something to it.

Rawhide

January 6th, 2011
2:02 pm

Not that it matters a hill-o-beans to us now…or will ease Panthers fans who may feel they got jobbed on McCabe’s “no-goal” call…but I just heard on NHL Live that an official stated the play should have been reviewed, that it was a mistake on their part it wasn’t.

I didn’t hear if that was an on-ice ref or an official in Toronto, but…

Red Light

January 6th, 2011
2:12 pm

Everything you ever wanted to know about the NHL waiver system. Written by one of SmoothieKing’s cohorts, Fred Poulin!

http://hockeyindependent.com/blog/slasher98/29223

jimbo

January 6th, 2011
2:16 pm

Nice to have a bounce go our way. But, why in the world don’t we have a shut down strategy and mentality in the last period of games when we lead???????. Most good teams do. We don’t. Opposing teams sail into our zone and are given opportunities to score. How about a neutral zone trap and a little press at the blue line?

Joe Friday

January 6th, 2011
2:46 pm

Dudley’s going to make a move this weekend, I smell it coming . . .

Alan R.

January 6th, 2011
2:51 pm

Bill – Pretty sure it was Mike Murphy. In other words, an NHL official that resides in Eggoville..

Tom

January 6th, 2011
3:10 pm

Messing around with Excel here are some projected numbers based upon points per game. The Thrashers with 95-96 pts would be in 7th place at the end of the season 3 or so points ahead of Montreal with 92-93 pts.

Rank Team G PT PPG Projected
1 Philadelphia 39 53 1.359 111.4
2 Pittsburgh 41 55 1.341 110.0
3 Tampa Bay 41 53 1.293 106.0
4 Washington 41 52 1.268 104.0
5 Boston 38 48 1.263 103.6
6 NY Rangers 41 49 1.195 98.0
7 Atlanta 43 50 1.163 95.3
8 Montreal 40 45 1.125 92.3
9 Carolina 39 42 1.077 88.3
10 Florida 38 38 1.000 82.0
11 Buffalo 39 37 0.949 77.8
12 Ottawa 40 37 0.925 75.9
13 Toronto 38 32 0.842 69.1
14 NY Islanders 37 30 0.811 66.5
15 New Jersey 39 22 0.564 46.3

GaVaHokie

January 6th, 2011
3:17 pm

The Fourth Period has their annual Top 25 Trade Deadline list up…

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade_deadline/top25/index.html

Langenbrunner, Brunnette, Tanguay and Moulson listed as Atlanta interests.

Calgary listed as interested in Bergfors.

Perhpas Bergfors for Tanguay and Hagman?… God, I hope not.

Rawhide

January 6th, 2011
3:18 pm

Dudley’s going to make a move this weekend, I smell it coming . . .

Joe Friday – Uh, no. Sorry. That was me….the cafe was serving burritos for lunch. :oops:

Brendan

January 6th, 2011
3:20 pm

I’d rather be on this side of the “break” than the other. It’s nice to get a gift, every now and again.

Last night, Bergfors and Ladd were +2, while Enstrom and Thorburn were -2. But guess who played 24:09? Wasn’t Enstrom. Wasn’t Byfuglien. It was Oduya, who went +1, with 1 shot on goal. Byfuglien had 5 shots, was a -1, while logging 23:17. I did notice that Eric Boulton was a rare minus on the evening, at -1. Boulton only saw 6:37 of ice time.

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
3:27 pm

@Smoothie

Thanks for the confirmation, glad to see that I wasn’t just imagining it or drinking the Kool-Aid! Not sure when the rule changed but I am working on finding it out.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
3:49 pm

ZA – no problem! I remember sitting on my couch watching the SCF last year and thinking to myself how odd it would be if they had to back-track and put time back on the clock and essentially wipe out a goal that may have happened after the initial no-goal ruling in question had been overturned. Perhaps Eddie O and Doc were just ruminating and surmising, but I could swear that they were talking about an actual rule that would allow that to happen.

World Be Free

January 6th, 2011
4:02 pm

GaVa – how about Bergie for Cory Sarich and a 2nd round pick? If Calgary is the dance partner, then that’s the deal I would make.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
4:02 pm

JoeF – I agree wholeheartedly, I don’t buy this baloney about Valabik going on re-entry just so someone may claim him. While that may happen, I could see Boris getting thrown in to some kind of deal to help a team that is even more banged up on the B/L than we are. Yeah, it may make more sense to claim him via re-entry, but if a Nik Bergfors is at stake, paying BV pro-rata on his $762 K / year deal isn’t that big a deal right?

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
4:07 pm

WBF – I like it, makes sense to me. I want Sarich or Beauchemin, then maybe Phillips or Regher.

Thrashers27

January 6th, 2011
4:11 pm

Wow, Brendan! I find your stats about Oduya surprising. I thought Oduya was having an awful game last night. I even noted it within Rawhide’s previous blog as I was watching the game. He was out of position multiple times, made bad passes, which were intercepted and was stripped of the puck a few times as well.

Matt

January 6th, 2011
4:53 pm

80th….woohoo!

litz

January 6th, 2011
5:04 pm

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
5:39 pm

So after a dialogue with one of the Avs announcers who watched your video link Rawhide, here is what he said regarding the rules and how the Panther’s screwed up on the non-goal call.

From Marc Moser for the Altitude Sports Network (and my favorite voice personality):

“Thanks for the email….. I know exactly what you’re talking about and read comments from FLA coach, Peter DeBoer about it. Basically, it’s like this.

If a play is close enough to deserve a look at, the on ice officials (if they’re not sure the puck went in) will let the play continue until the next whistle and then they’ll hustle on over to the official scorer table and check to see if the puck went in. If it DID, then they’ll award the goal, put all the time back on the clock and re-start the game from the time the play in question happened. If it didn’t go in, they just continue the game from that time.

Here’s where it appears things went wrong. The on ice officials may have expected the guys in Toronto (who are the ones to actually review ALL situations like this) to buzz down to the ice at the next whistle and say “hey guys, we’re looking’ at that one play to see if it was a goal, hang on a sec”…… If there was a question and Toronto didn’t call in, then the on-ice officials can go to the table at the next whistle and check in, call Toronto, and have them review it….BUT, neither appears to have happened and I’m not sure what the guys on-ice OR in Toronto were doing…maybe they just missed it..period. They can’t see everything from every game in real time and sometimes they need help from the on-ice officials to get a cue to review….it appears, obviously, that no one either saw it or thought enough of it to review.

In that event, the video coach from FLA should call to one of the assistants on the bench (who has a receiver in his ear and a mic as well) and say “guys, that puck went in…at the whistle have coach DeBoer call one of the refs over and INSIST that they ask Toronto to review it…don’t take the face-off, make them review it” … I don’t think THAT happened either. But, I don’t know how quickly the next whistle happened or if the FLA video guy just seemed to miss it, but that’s part of his job…However, I don’t know all of the circumstances so I can’t say if he dropped the ball…either way, it seems the on-ice and Toronto guys should have bailed him out in the first place. It’s just a missed situation by everyone. and a loss for Florida.

Thanks for listening Mike, Go Avs!

Marc”

Badger Bob

January 6th, 2011
5:40 pm

Can’t say I’ve seen conclusive evidence to overturn the no-goal. You gotta see white between the puck and the line and, even with all the telestrator scribbles, there was no evidence of that. Should have been reviewed, probably wouldn’t have been overturned, and there’s no saying that Pevs doesn’t go score his hat trick to win the game even if it counts.

PS: As a close Flames watcher, I recommend steering clear of anyone not named Iginla. Almost any trade there would make us older and may not make us better.

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
5:42 pm

So basically what Smoothie and I are talking about is that it is possible for a play to go on for 10 more minutes (or more) without a whistle and then at the whistle the video judges can rule a goal or non-goal. So the previous poster, sorry don’t remember your name, is correct on rule 38. Nice work.

Badger Bob

January 6th, 2011
5:43 pm

ZA – that raises a good point – why didn’t FLA use their time out to harrass the refs into reviewing it? DeBoer has to be kicking himself for not doing that…

Joe McGrath

January 6th, 2011
5:44 pm

Once again, Bogo blew it last night. Watch the replay of the Weiss goal.

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
5:50 pm

@Bob, to me it looks pretty clear that Pavs pulls the puck out of the inner padding after the whistle and got away with it as the refs thought he had it in his glove. But you are right, totally deserved a review. Not a crime if you aren’t caught right?……..

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
5:53 pm

@Bob, you are so right. DeBoer screwed up big time.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
6:30 pm

Thanks Z!

Wow, that was yeoman’s work right there!

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
6:58 pm

LOl Smoothie, no problem, I hate not knowing all the rules and the NHL has a few! Plus, it is good to get in with the local announcing media talent and if there is any announcer I would dig having a beer with it would definitely be Marc Moser, aka “The Mose” who so graciously replied within the hour. Knowing the right people = free tickets!

Cornbread

January 6th, 2011
7:24 pm

No Bogosian was not at fault on the Weiss goal! Cormier was!

Not only did Cormier cause the turnover in the other end but he floated back in his own zone and didn’t cover Weiss who was his man. He half hearted tried to get his stick in the lane when he realized he was beat. Bogosian had his man which was Frolik. He had him covered correctly to prevent the give and go. When he realized that Weiss was left unattended in the high slot he let Frolik go to cover a wide open Weiss. By that time it was to late. How many guys do you want Bogosian to cover?

Even the FL broadcasters commented on the lack of effort from ATL’s back checkers which included Kane who also went after Higgins who Enstrom had covered. Neither one of them stopped the pass. But it was hardly their fault either. If Cormier wouldn’t have fixated on the puck carrier he would have seen Weiss was his responsibility. The Thrashers had 4 guys on 3 Panthers. That goal should never have occurred. Cormier blew it on both ends of the ice. I can forgive him for making a rookie mistake but placing the blame on Bogosian for that goal is wrong. Watch the tape, Again!

AtlFlamesFan

January 6th, 2011
7:50 pm

Agreed Cornbread. Cormier was the one.

Mr. Heat Miser

January 6th, 2011
9:24 pm

Maybe they can rename the Air Canada Centre to The Waffle House

Tom

January 6th, 2011
10:31 pm

Toronto went to a shoot out and got an emotional win, now have to get on a plane and head to Atlanta to play tomorrow. Let’s hope they show up like we did last week in New Jersey to play our rested Thrashers… {insert evil laugh here}

Red Light

January 6th, 2011
11:51 pm

If you’re looking for d-men, you still have to compete with Montreal, who in addition to Markov has now lost Josh Gorges for the season. They got the Wiz, and now lets see who they go after. They’ve got some room to maneuver so maybe Sarich winds up in the discussion there too. Regehr is second only to Ed Jovanoski as one of the top overrated d-men in the league. Pass!

Alan R.

January 6th, 2011
11:52 pm

That goal should never have occurred. Cormier blew it on both ends of the ice.

The ref didn’t blow it, though. The whistle, I mean. This is moot because Higgins was offsides by a country mile. Yes, the goal should never have occurred, and Cormier did screw up, but the officials really screwed the pooch.

Cornbread

January 7th, 2011
2:18 am

Alan, not on the Weiss goal. Higgins was clearly onside for that one after receiving the puck from Frolik, skating in the zone, and then dishing to Weiss. That was a good zone entry.

On Higgins goal it was very close. But, I have yet to see conclusive proof that he was offsides on the breakaway. The best I could pause on the replay shows the puck on the leading edge of the blue line with his trailing toe across the line and heel of that skate well inside the blue paint. The puck was going faster than he was. It was likely a very good call on the Linesman’s part even though it looked like he was off on the live shot and full speed replay. I thought the same thing as you when I first saw it but now I think it was probably a good no offsides call and a good goal.

World Be Free

January 7th, 2011
7:45 am

The problem with making trades is that we really don’t have much to bargain with. We already moved out 32 for this year. Not much of value with the Wolves, not much in the juior system; only Bergie is of value for trade on our roster without dirupting the current mix. Our only real ace in the hole is having cap space for a team looking to move an overpaid vet who still might have tread left on the tire. I thought Rolston fit that bill.

World Be Free

January 7th, 2011
7:46 am

That’s our #2 this year

Spud Webb

January 7th, 2011
7:48 am

Kristi Yamaguchi is hot, good for Brett hedican. ahahahhaha…Remember how worried about scoring in the preseason, with good reason…nice to know that we’re not worrying about that anymore, team concept is doing well for us.
Watched sharks vs sabres last night, chippy, good game. Mike weber took a beating from Clowe, miller stands on his head & the fans BOOOOOOOOOING the Sharks, I was shocked at how loud they were booing. It was great!!! RL, more and more when i watch Montador I dream of him being down here playing. Man crush on him, solid D man, no publicity, does some dirty work, moves the puck, never out of position.

glovesave29

January 7th, 2011
8:08 am

litz – thats what happens when you buy those cheap Czech made pucks. They are recycled tires instead of the virgin rubber as used in the NHL, ECHL, AHL and CHL.

World Be Free

January 7th, 2011
8:35 am

SPUD- how was world juniors and Sabes/Broones game?
Not sure what it will take to get Montidor. Sabres have some kids in the minors that need NHL playing time.

Sharks are the 1990’s Buffalo Bills of the NHL

Rawhide

January 7th, 2011
8:55 am

ZAvalance – Nice work getting that response and explaination!

Joe McGrath

January 7th, 2011
9:50 am

Bully. Cormier mispalyed and caused the transition, I agree. But transitions happen all the time, that’s why you have defensemen. What I saw was Bogo should have stayred center lane. Instead he veared to his left leaving a clear, open lane for Weiss. Bogo moved toward three white jerseys and two blue jerseys and allowed the third blue jersey, Weiss, to move in unmolested. He’d have dropped to one knee in the center lane and tried to block trailer/shot coming through center lane. He could have stayed middle and attempted to block the shot or divert Weiss outside.

SomaAtl95

January 7th, 2011
9:57 am

Maybe after tonights game the Maple Leafs will visit their “Graceland” – the Waffle House Corporate HQ in Norcross. I’m betting Colby and C-Mac can lead the players there.

Tom

January 7th, 2011
10:13 am

I hear there is going to be a big announcement by the Leafs for their 3rd Jersey at 3 PM today…

Here is a sneak preview.

http://store.realtree.com/images/product/thumbnail_product_detailed_image_134_230.jpg

GaVaHokie

January 7th, 2011
10:42 am

Langenbrunner has been traded to the Dallas stars for a conditional 3rd Round Pick.

Joe Friday

January 7th, 2011
10:45 am

Classic, Tom! If anyone has a Waffle House hat, bring it just in case we score a hattie (or if they do, year right).

WBF, go pickup one of these today and you can present it to your buddy Colby before the game: http://store.realtree.com/ladies-fitted-waffle-house-princess-t-shirt-ap-pink.html

Buds are a mess. Nice shootout goal last night with the latest version of the spin-o-rama, but they blew a 5-2 lead in the 3rd. We should be able to take it to them tonight.

Hockey Biltong

January 7th, 2011
10:49 am

R.Stroz -some know me as Gabriel, others call me Hockey Biltong; can I use this thing in Philips???
BTW- You da man!!!!!

Cornbread

January 7th, 2011
10:53 am

Sorry Joe that’s just not the case. Cormier had the responsibility for the third man coming in who was Weiss. Bogosian had good coverage on that play and he took the leading man Frolik who was coming down the high slot. Bogosian never left the slot area. If he doesn’t take Frolik it would have allowed him to skate to the net uncontested – quite possibly with the puck. Bogosian took away that option by correctly positioning himself between his man and the goal, which Cormier did not do – nor Kane for that matter. They too must play defense. There is no way Cormier should have left Weiss wide open like he did. The Thrashers had the numbers and he blew it. I guarantee the coaches are talking to Cormier about his defensive lapse and not Bogosian who at least tried to make up for Cormier’s mistake.

Once again a defenceman does the right thing, makes a good play, and wrongly comes out as the goat because of forwards’ multiple mistakes.

Joe Friday

January 7th, 2011
10:57 am

Cornbread, I think you’re talking to the other Joe, but I saw that play as well and was thinking “catch up” to Cormier as he was lagging behind. Cormier blew it twice on that play, losing the puck at the boards in our zone, and then he dogged it and didn’t skate hard to catch up as the play was going the other way. Rookie mistake, but I wasn’t pleased to see him be lazy like that . . .

Cornbread

January 7th, 2011
10:59 am

One more thing Joe of all those things you mentioned that Bogosian could have and should have done, Cormier could have and should have done but didn’t either. In fact, he did far less on the play – except make more mistakes. But like I said, I’m not going to be too hard on him for that one. He’ll learn what he should have done and not give NHLers such a free pass into his zone again.

Smoothie

January 7th, 2011
11:05 am

Cormier got “picked” off the puck along the wall by the ref. Still not an excuse, but he should have stayed a little higher up the wall for better spacing and the ref would not have been a problem. And yes, he did not get back aggressively enougn and should have done a better job trying to get to Weiss, but no way in hell he’s gonna win that foot race anyway. Why doesn’t Bogosian at least go down on one knee or use his stick more aggressively (it’s not even on the ice in an aggressive defensive position) to block the pass. The angle of the pass to Frolik was less dangerous cuz 1) Pavs is already in position from the strong side and 2) Toby has forced Higgins to go back to the middle. Bogosian’s failure, once again, to read the play correctly contributed to the easy chance. He should at least been more to the middle to make the chance harder for Weiss to deposit. He’s not as culpable as Cormier, but he’s still guilty of making a fairly non-committal play.

Smoothie

January 7th, 2011
11:12 am

C-Viv just tweeted that Kane is out tonite. Time for Burmy or Antropov to step up against his old team. If we can get Antro to start playing 75% as well as he did last March, then we’ll be a lock for the playoffs.

World Be Free

January 7th, 2011
11:21 am

Joe Friday- I was going to boo Colby tonight but determined it is a waste of time. He got his 4th goal of the season last night, deflected off his jersey. On pace for 8 goals this season for $3Mil, great investment.

Agree the Buds are a mess but does that make them dangerous? I think we get Giguere tonight.

Badger Bob

January 7th, 2011
12:10 pm

“the Buds are a mess”. Not many things have remained true for over 40 years. That statement has, to the great delight of all Buffaloans and western Canadians alike! Stomp em’, Thrashers!!

World Be Free

January 7th, 2011
12:17 pm

Badger-not bad enough that the team is bad, but their fans whining is much worse; “we deserve better” is their cry. Tronna is a victim of their own financial success. The team makes so much money there’s no real motivation to build them into a champion. Harold Ballard’s antics are proof of this. 43 years and counting.

Cornbread

January 7th, 2011
12:50 pm

Sorry Joe Friday I was commenting with Joe McGrath but I do agree with you.

Bottom line is Weiss was Cormier’s responsibility. The pass from Higgins made it through 3 Thrashers, Enstrom, Kane, and Cormier. No way should that have happened to make Bogosian come off his man who was going to the net. Again, how many guys do you want him to cover?

Bad play Cormier for the turnover, not hustling back, failing to pick up any man, and causing a goal that has some making his team mate out to be the goat on the play.

ZAvalanche

January 7th, 2011
1:24 pm

@RAWHIDE – Thanks man. You all need to rock the Leafs tonight, wish I could be there. Attended the Avs game last night and we got blanked by the Coyotes. Ugh. Best of luck for Thrashy tonight! I think Buffy will have a 3-point evening.

Joe McGrath

January 7th, 2011
1:32 pm

@Cbread–Yep, I get it. Cormier pooted in public, made a rookie mistake (pic and all).
@Smoothie, my thoughts exactly. Shooting the puck past a goalie and half a defensemanis harder than shooting the puck past a goalie.
Hello dead horse, meet the whip. It’s on to beating TML.
Go Thrashers!

Patrice Cormier

January 7th, 2011
1:40 pm

It was my fifth NHL game ever. You were expecting Guy Carbonneau already?

GaVaHokie

January 7th, 2011
1:46 pm

WBF… Giguere is injured isn’t he? Regardless, per TSN, I think Reimer is starting tonight.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/icechips/

Cornbread

January 7th, 2011
1:55 pm

No Patrice we were not and are not. In fact, most of us understand and have forgiven your rookie mistakes that led to the goal. Unfortunately, some want to blame one of your team mates for it.

Cornbread

January 7th, 2011
2:11 pm

As for Bogosian, I was very critical of his play last season as he was the worst D-man on the team – and that included Valabik. He may very well still be the worst D-man on the team but it is not fare to criticize him for a play that was nowhere near his fault as another team mate’s.

I believe Bogosian is playing much better this season. I also believe he is playing far too much defence. Not in total ice time but in time that the Thrashers are in their own end. There is too much pressure being put on the 20 year old skilled D-man and also the rest of the team. It magnifies any mistakes he and others make and allows them to occur more frequently. That has got to kill his confidence like I believe it did in the last Montreal game.

The Thrashers need to get back to keeping the puck in the other end and forcing turnovers in the neutral zone and not allowing teams time, space, and speed on their break-outs. Do this and there will be far less criticism directed at one very young defenceman.

A2B

January 7th, 2011
2:13 pm

So why are we whining when we won? I mean I know this is the first year that we actually go into games expecting to win, but do we have to be this nit picky about every mistake? I’m quite sure Ramsay and Torchetti have had a few select words for thiose who were accountable for that goal. Lets bury the buds and silence Canada so TSN has lots of crazy canadians saying they were cheated again.

Mr. Heat Miser

January 7th, 2011
2:39 pm

Check out the hashtag #LeafsSince1967 on Twitter – let’s get it trending! Take a dig at ‘em!

World Be Free

January 7th, 2011
2:50 pm

GaVa-I thought Giggie tonight but I may be wrong

Smoothie

January 7th, 2011
3:37 pm

Out of fairness to Zach, and if anyone is curious, here is where Zach stacks up from a very quantitative view:

Out of 148 D-men to have played at least 30 games this year, Zach is right in the middle of the pack (76th) when it comes to the Quality of Competition he’s seen at even-strength. For reference, Toby & Buff are in the top 60 so the amount of ice time Zach and Johnny are seeing against QC is higher than the 2nd pairs on teams such as DET, CHI, SJ and PHX who rely so heavily on their top pairs (obviously). So there is something to the fact that Zach is getting a lot more exposure to 1st and 2nd lines this year. How is he handling it from a statistical viewpoint? Let’s see:

1) Zach is 37th out of 148 when it comes to Relative Corsi (total shots taken less total shots allowed) – Quality of Competition, higher than both Toby and Dustin. Toby is 78th & Big Buff is 86th. The top 10 in this category is: Lidstrom, Lydman, Regehr, Grossman, Robidas, Hamrlik, Bouwmeester, Stuart, B., Visnovsky and Morris.

2) However, when you adjust for the quality of Zach’s teammates when he’s on the ice, his rank drops all the way down to 143rd. In fact, 4 of the 6 Atlanta D-men are in the bottom ten in Corsi relative to QoT (Hainsey 139th, Oduya 140th and Sopel 144th). Mr. Enstrom is 4th and Byfuglien is 7th. So yes, TE & DB get to play with the best quality teammates at full-strength especially at home. Where Zach does seem to struggle the most is against the stronger lines on the road when the opposing team’s coaches match up accordingly. I think that’s why you see TE & DB out on the ice more when the 3rd and 4th lines are out.

3) Since Zach likes to shoot a lot (avg about 2 shots / game), his Corsi rating relative to QoC and QoT is a bit inflated. Looking at just the Relative Corsi ratings, which is really just a raw indicator of how many more shots are taken against Zach & Johnny versus what is taken while they’re out there, both ZB & JO are way down at the bottom, well below the team average. Strangely enough, Nicklas Bergfors ranks highest on the team in pure Corsi so take these numbers with a grain of salt. Of course, Ladd & Little, Bergie’s typical linemates, are the next two forwards in the rankings.

4) In terms of pure plus/minus, Zach has been on the ice 28 times in 35 games for a goal scored against. Johnny has been out 36 times in 43 games, but he’s had to play with Meyer & Welch when Zach was out. For comparison, Toby has been out the most, due to his ice-time, 42 times in 43 games while Dustin has been out 37 times in 43 games. Peculiar I know but I think Toby has had to play with Zach and Ron much more than Buff who’s only been on the ice for 2 goals without Toby (with Oduya). Lastly, Hainsey & Sopes have been out for only 18 GA in 43 games, but they play the fewest minutes and the worst competition on avg.

So yeah, while Zach has been far from perfect, he probably doesn’t deserve to be the goat as much as he is here on this blog. HOWEVER, he’s also the 3rd overall pick from 2008 and the expectations are far higher for him than Hainsey and Sopel. It just seems like some of the finer points of the game are taking longer to sink in with Bogey. He is improving, but nagging injuries have plagued him since he came into the league. Who knows how many games Zach has actually played when fully healthy, but alas, that is the rub for a D-man. You play hurt a lot. Considering the level of competition Zach faces on the road especially, I think most of us realize that Zach must play better on average if we are to be a playoff team and a legitimate threat to advance in the playoffs. Hopefully, the next 39 games will show that improvement.

Smoothie

January 7th, 2011
4:00 pm

Oh and in case you were curious about the most important stat of all, goals against per 60 mins played, here are the team rankings from worst to best:

1) Modin
2) Ladd
3) Peverley
4) Oduya
5) Kane
6) Bogosian
7) Enstrom
8 ) Antropov
9) Stewart
10) Slater
11) Byfuglien
12) Burmistrov
13) Bergfors
14) Thorburn
15) Sopel
16) Eager
17) Little
18) Hainsey
19) Boulton
20) Stapleton

This is every player who has played 10 games at least. So based on Timmy’s best ranking (only .60 GA per game), you can see why Rammer likes him so much. BTW, the top 6 are all 2.75 GA per game. The difference is Toby & Buff are out there for 3.2 GF per game. Little leads the way with 3.45 GF per 60 mins with Slater(!) 2nd at 3.36 GF/ gm. When it comes to relative goal scoring, the top 10 are:

1) Little +1.53
2) Boults +1.09
2) Slater +0.88
3) Byfgul +0.86
4) Hainse +0.72
5) Sopel +0.67
6) Thorbs +0.63
7) Enstro +0.47
8 ) Eager +0.30
9) Bergfo +0.30
10) Stewy +0.22

The worst five? 1) Modin -1.54 2) Oduya -1.15 3) Bogey -0.98 4) Peverley -0.95 5) Antro -0.76

Perhaps Peverley should play a bit less as his 2.05 GF / gm is 3rd lowest on the team with only Antro and Stapleton lower. Obviously, Antro and Pevs need to pick up the scoring for this to be a mid-90 point season rather than a season where we eek out the #8 seed. Hopefully Pevs’ last two games is an indication that he is about to catch fire like he did last Oct/Nov when he led the team with 25 points in 23 games or something like that. It certainly will help to have a goal-scorer like Bergie as opposed to Stewie on the RW.

Based on the quantitative stats, I would go with this lineup:

Ladd-Pevs-Bergy // Kane-Lits-Stewy // Eager/Modin-Burmy/Cormier-Thorbs // Boults-Slates/Cormier-Antro at least until Antropov can find his stride and scoring touch.

Smoothie

January 7th, 2011
4:02 pm

“BTW, the top 6 are all 2.75 GA per game”

Uh, that should read “the worst 6…”

glovesave29

January 7th, 2011
4:29 pm

Sorry Cornbread…NO ONE is worse than cement foot Valabik.

waffleboy

January 7th, 2011
4:33 pm

Toronto giving a little love to the Thrashers. There mid-season awards give two to Atlanta: Pavs for Vezina and Ramsay for Adams.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/nhl-mid-season-awards/article1861881/

R. Stroz

January 7th, 2011
4:42 pm

waffleboy

January 7th, 2011
4:52 pm

R. Stroz – You sir, are a man after my own heart. But I can get all the free hashbrowns I want.

Tom

January 7th, 2011
5:35 pm

It looks like Waffle House is running a special promotion for Toronto Fans and their organization. I came across this ad today.

http://www.atlantaonepagemarketing.com/images/TorontoWaffleHouse.jpg

Enjoy!

Red Light

January 7th, 2011
5:53 pm

The Thrashers blue line has contributed 108 points so far this season, which is second behind only the Detroit Red Wings backline (109) going into Friday’s games. Detroit has played three fewer games, but that’s still a nice stat.

Thrashers blow it open a close game in the third period tonight and coast to victory.

Red Light

January 7th, 2011
5:54 pm

I predict R. Stroz will make a lot of noise at the game tonight.

Hockey Biltong

January 7th, 2011
6:23 pm

Stroz, you bringing your hooter?

Thrashers27

January 7th, 2011
7:48 pm

Enstrom puts the pill in the basket, Boults drops bombs on Orr then Burmistrov hammers Armstrong into the boards. Pretty good start tonight.

Tom

January 7th, 2011
8:17 pm

How can the Leafs record suck so bad when they get calls like they do against the Thrashers. The ref that was in the Leaf’s zone made 2 quick whistles on rebounds by their goalie and then called a double minor on Eager from the other end of the rink.

ugh…

Michael "the abbreviation"

January 7th, 2011
8:38 pm

bogosian is so bad its actually laughable

Thrashers27

January 7th, 2011
8:58 pm

Bogosian must sit!!!

Thrashers27

January 7th, 2011
9:11 pm

WHAT A STEAMING PILE!

Tom

January 7th, 2011
9:15 pm

Do you think they will just waive Eager between periods?

michael

January 7th, 2011
9:38 pm

wow this is a terrible game…it’s def trade time.

LAC

January 7th, 2011
9:40 pm

There are players on this team that need to GO !!! Starting with that PLIE OF $HIT zach borosian, this punk stinks like my bathroom in the AM. Simply SICK to continue to watch this A$$ HOLE punk. Waive him and Mason after the game along with eager and make some smart trades, This SUCKS !!!

bogosian STINKS LIKE HECK, Get rid of his worthless punk marshmellow Butt… NOW !!!!!

Sage of Bluesland

January 7th, 2011
9:42 pm

Funny, where did all the bombast go? Just flipped the game on TV–and I see us down 9 to 1…Thought it was a misprint.

Thank goodness I didn’t waste my money on that product…

LAC

January 7th, 2011
9:45 pm

You are correct Sage, Patton is on TV, much better than this CRAP !!! Friday night, a very average Toronto team and this ??? This will KILL attendence for good now, You can bet all you will hear the rest of the season as we fall into 12th or 13th place, Atlanta moving… After this CRAP may be a GOOD Thing !

Alan R.

January 7th, 2011
9:51 pm

I see a whole lot of panic.

Remember when we spanked the Canes 9-0? Good times. Carolina also won the cup that year. Not saying *we* will win the cup, just saying that even good teams have really bad games sometimes.

Look, every team gets really whalloped every season. It’s why we play the games. Way too soon to panic, but I do agree that a couple personnel changes, or a benching at the very least, needs to occur soon.

michael

January 7th, 2011
9:55 pm

you hit the nail on the head. bad games happen and while they’re upsetting its’s not the end of the world. however something does need to be said or done trade wise.

Flagstaff

January 7th, 2011
10:09 pm

“Remember when we spanked the Canes 9-0? Good times. Carolina also won the cup that year. Not saying *we* will win the cup, just saying that even good teams have really bad games sometimes.

Look, every team gets really whalloped every season. It’s why we play the games. Way too soon to panic, but I do agree that a couple personnel changes, or a benching at the very least, needs to occur soon.”

You make a fine point, Alan R. It’s really no different than a 1-0 (regulation) loss in terms of what it does to our record. That being said… that sucked. No two ways about it. Yuck.

Alan R.

January 7th, 2011
10:14 pm

There’s some bright spots to be seen, here. Cormier got his first NHL goal, we didn’t lose by two grand slams, and Ramsay will have some words of wisdom to impart upon those of us who religiously watch his press conferences from the Thrashers’ video site.

KLS1

January 7th, 2011
10:17 pm

Too much juggling, time to draw some lines in the sand. Modin experiment needs to end. Thorburn and Boulton are 4th liners, good 4th liners but quit moving them up. Leave Ladd, Peverly and Bergie alone.

Give Kulda a shake…

Furious George

January 7th, 2011
10:39 pm

Well that completely sucked out loud! Could not watch any more after the 5th goal. This is not how you attract new fans. This is one of those games that you throw the tape away and move on. Gotta respond on Sunday.

Jack Frost

January 7th, 2011
10:40 pm

Special Weather Alert: Thrashers grounded by snowman “plus one.” More snow on the way……….

Alan R.

January 7th, 2011
10:40 pm

Ladd is one pissed off mofo. I have to wonder if any paint will be left on the locker room wall, because after he scored his goal, he looked like he was going to go nuclear.

Flagstaff

January 7th, 2011
10:42 pm

Alan R.– I left after it was 9-1. I usually never leave early, but I was kind of feeling sick anyway today, so… Care to explain what exactly happened with Ladd?

Hokie P. Clisters

January 7th, 2011
10:49 pm

Well Mr. Rawhides, I guess the only break we got tonight was the merciful horn ending period # 2. They should be spitting out nails when they play Sunday. I expect them to respond well. If not, then Rammer’s got alot of work to do during the 4 day off schedule. They certainly need to get the stinch of this mess out of their nose ASAP.

Alan R.

January 7th, 2011
10:58 pm

Flagstaff: On his goal “celebration,” the only thing he did was look at his linemates and nod his head. It was very terse. Not one of those “We’re down by two field goals, why celebrate?” kind of nods. It was a “You kids just wait til we get home. You are SO dead.” kind of nod.

Alan R.

January 7th, 2011
11:02 pm

Also, I wasn’t at the game. I caught the Leafs broadcast. I stopped watching after we went down 5-1, but popped back in on mute a little later in the third. I missed Cormier’s goal, but saw Ladd’s.

Matt

January 7th, 2011
11:19 pm

Man, that was just the pits. I took my daughter to her first game and may have traumatized her for life.

Eager-you suck and deserve the pine.

Bogo-you stink and need some serious time in the minors.

D-Men-learn when and how to pinch in correctly. That third (?) goal was a direct result of a pinch gone awry.

Everyone else should be embarrassed and ASG should refund the money we shelled out for this debacle.

And “Sheeple Boy” you are a gutless wonder.

Brendan

January 8th, 2011
12:13 am

Well, if Atlanta did ‘catch a break’ in the Florida game, then ‘instant karma’ got us, tonight. I think the Penguins recently beat the Lightning, 8-1. Does that mean Tampa sucks, and will now fall to 13th place?

Look, the play is under .500 lately. Time to panic? Not really. Time to be ‘okay’ with prolonged point droughts? No, absolutely not. Not when there’s really so few points separating the field in the Eastern Conference. Every team experiences losses like this. It’s the “snowball” effect. It was POINT NIGHT for Toronto.

We’ve got to focus on Carolina, now. It’s a big game, as they all are, at this point forward.

Brendan

January 8th, 2011
12:14 am

Ranallo-warning???

R. Stroz

January 8th, 2011
12:28 am

Is Nabby still available? Mason plain sucks.

Also:

Modin Sucks.

and send Bogosian to the minors. The kid is making Boris look good.

LAC

January 8th, 2011
12:32 am

Boris is 110% better than little marshmellow zach, Bring Boris up and WAIVE zach #4, HE STINKS LIKE HELL !

Red Light

January 8th, 2011
12:40 am

Team quit in the second, played hard in the third even though it was way too late. That’s a good sign. Another good sign will be if Eager is shown the door prior to the Carolina game Sunday. He embarrassed himself and his teammates tonight.

R. Stroz

January 8th, 2011
12:52 am

Waive Eager, bring up Machacek from Chicago.

SomaAtl95

January 8th, 2011
1:23 am

Anyone remember the blowouts that the Thrashers handed to other good teams in the league? Did their nay-sayers come out and say the season was over? Did their respective Sages show up and spread doom? No. It was a crap loss. Last crap loss we had Ladd was given the C. I foresee changes in the same vein in the next couple of days. Nice to see Sage is alive since he hasn’t been here to gloat and insult us in so long… he reminds me of Randy Quaid in the “Major League” Movies who does nothing but complain until the team makes the playoffs.
This is NOT the Thrashers teams of the past, players will be held accountable and heads will roll.
I’ll be at practice tomorrow giving support to our team. If you see a guy in a yellow Byf jersey come by and say hello :) It’ll be me. I may be a sheeple, but if the team were to pack up and leave town I know that I wasn’t part of the problem – the panicking negative Nancy naysayers are the problem. We aren’t going to win every game. Preparing for the team to leave town after one loss is a little premature. I dare any of you to tell me of an NHL team that won every regular season game. Until then take a chill pill, relax and build a bridge so you can get over it!

Thrashers27

January 8th, 2011
2:20 am

Certainly not the end of the world, but those boys did lay a big deuce on the ice last night.

I decided I’m never going to post comments as the game is in progress again. Seems like every time I do, the game reverses almost immediately after my comment. So, no more.

Get it together, boys.

I don’t advocate the dumping of Eager, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Machacek get a look-see.

Spud Webb

January 8th, 2011
9:02 am

THUD….time to move on from that nightmare, only to wake up and realize I saw what I saw.
Sunday can’t get here fast enough!!!

Rhythmpenguin

January 8th, 2011
9:10 am

Eager should not play for the Thrashers any more. At least until he learns to control himself. When he gets riled up he can’t control himself and self control is essential to playing in the NHL. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him playing in Europe sometime soon.

Rawhide

January 8th, 2011
9:13 am

Rhythmpenguin – Myfeelings exactly, as youall can read here.

Red Light

January 8th, 2011
9:17 am

The Thrashers allowed 6 Maple Leafs goals in the 2nd period last night. The last time they allowed 6 in a period was March 21, 2000 against Ottawa when Damian Rhodes faced his former team. It also was the second time the Leafs hung a 9-spot on the Thrashers at Philips Arena. They also accomplished the feat on Oct. 14, 2005. That night the Leafs scored 7 power play goals and five in the third period.

Best news is that they play at Carolina tomorrow and have had great success at RBC Center. They went 3-0 in Raleigh last year and are 9-4-1 in their last 14 on Tobacco Road.

ZAvalanche

January 8th, 2011
11:30 am

As miserable as that must have been to see, a good a$$ whoopin’ every now and again isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Sorry Thrashy, that must have hurt.

R. Stroz

January 8th, 2011
11:22 pm

Rawhide

January 12th, 2011
7:43 am

R. Stroz – Nope.