Did the Thrashers catch a break in Florida last night?

So did the Atlanta Thrashers catch a major break in Sunrise, Florida Wednesday night? Certainly the Panthers think so.

The controversy happened with 6:22 remaining in the third period and Atlanta up 3-2 on a pair of Rich Peverley goals and one from Nic Bergfors. Bryan McCabe shot from the left circle got through Ondrej Pavelec’s right side onto the line…maybe past the line.

A quick look at the play can be found towards the end of this highlight clip.

The referee behind the goal waived it of, blowing the whistle to stop the play. McCabe and the Florida bench waited for a video review from the NHL official’s in Toronto. However…and admittedly, surprisingly…no such review would be forthcoming.

Wednesday night's big players for the Thrashers Ondrej Pavelec and Rich Peveley congratulate each other after the 3-2 win in Florida. Peverley scored 2 goals on 8 shots while Pavelec stopped 33 of 35 Panthers shots. Or was it only 32? (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky)

Wednesday night's big players for the Thrashers Ondrej Pavelec and Rich Peveley congratulate each other after the 3-2 win in Florida. Peverley scored 2 goals on 8 shots while Pavelec stopped 33 of 35 Panthers shots. Or was it only 32? (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky)

Instead, play continued and the Thrashers escaped south Florida with 2 points, leaving Panthers coach Pete DeBoer “baffled”.

“It looked like a goal to me”, DeBoer commented afterwards. “I’m baffled as to why the referees, to make certain, wouldn’t have gone to the penalty box and asked that they take a look at it or Toronto would have buzzed and taken a second look at it. They look at everything else”.

Regardless, the win puts the Thrashers at 22-15-6 for 50…good enough for sixth place in the Eastern Conference.

Pavelec was again outstanding as he kicked aside 33 of 35 Panthers shots. It’s no too often that an NHL goalie can face that many shots and almost consider it a “night off”, but seeing how last Sunday he was called upon 50 times to make saves in Montreal, it may have just felt that way for Opie.

Pavelec is now 15-8-4 with a .936 SV% and 2.14 GAA.

As stated above, Peverely notched goals number 10 and 11 on the season while Nic Bergfors scored his first since December 10th …a rather fortunate bounce for Bergie as it deflected in off Panther netminder Tomas Vokoun and trickled in over the line.

Vokoun did not have a very good night at all and was lifted after Peverley’s second goal of the game gave the Thrashers a 3-1 in the second period. He departed after allowed three goals on 15 shots during 26:27 TOI.

Rich Peverley’s power play goal late in the first was a thing of beauty, however. He made a strong move out of the corner on Vokoun’s right, drove the net then knocked in his own rebound while falling to the ice. The Pevs Dispenser now has 11 goals and 14 assists on the season. He took a game-high 8 shots on goal as well in Florida.

“Peverley did a great job,” Ramsay said of Wednesday night’s offensive hero. “He took the hit to draw the penalty, then took the puck to the net. That was a real good effort from him. Take the penalty, then score. Give him four marks for that one.”

Next on the agenda is the Toronto Maple Leafs Friday night. They are struggling right now with a 14-20-4 record and reside in the cellar of the Northeast Division. The Leafs will head to Atlanta after playing St. Louis tonight in Toronto and could be in 14th place in conference if they lose to the Blues and the Islanders win in Edmonton later on in the evening.

These are the teams the Thrashers need to take of business against, needless to say. They may have gotten a lucky break in Florida last night, but generally speaking a team creates it’s own luck more times than not.

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176 comments Add your comment

glovesave29

January 7th, 2011
8:08 am

litz – thats what happens when you buy those cheap Czech made pucks. They are recycled tires instead of the virgin rubber as used in the NHL, ECHL, AHL and CHL.

World Be Free

January 7th, 2011
8:35 am

SPUD- how was world juniors and Sabes/Broones game?
Not sure what it will take to get Montidor. Sabres have some kids in the minors that need NHL playing time.

Sharks are the 1990’s Buffalo Bills of the NHL

Rawhide

January 7th, 2011
8:55 am

ZAvalance – Nice work getting that response and explaination!

Joe McGrath

January 7th, 2011
9:50 am

Bully. Cormier mispalyed and caused the transition, I agree. But transitions happen all the time, that’s why you have defensemen. What I saw was Bogo should have stayred center lane. Instead he veared to his left leaving a clear, open lane for Weiss. Bogo moved toward three white jerseys and two blue jerseys and allowed the third blue jersey, Weiss, to move in unmolested. He’d have dropped to one knee in the center lane and tried to block trailer/shot coming through center lane. He could have stayed middle and attempted to block the shot or divert Weiss outside.

SomaAtl95

January 7th, 2011
9:57 am

Maybe after tonights game the Maple Leafs will visit their “Graceland” – the Waffle House Corporate HQ in Norcross. I’m betting Colby and C-Mac can lead the players there.

Tom

January 7th, 2011
10:13 am

I hear there is going to be a big announcement by the Leafs for their 3rd Jersey at 3 PM today…

Here is a sneak preview.

http://store.realtree.com/images/product/thumbnail_product_detailed_image_134_230.jpg

GaVaHokie

January 7th, 2011
10:42 am

Langenbrunner has been traded to the Dallas stars for a conditional 3rd Round Pick.

Joe Friday

January 7th, 2011
10:45 am

Classic, Tom! If anyone has a Waffle House hat, bring it just in case we score a hattie (or if they do, year right).

WBF, go pickup one of these today and you can present it to your buddy Colby before the game: http://store.realtree.com/ladies-fitted-waffle-house-princess-t-shirt-ap-pink.html

Buds are a mess. Nice shootout goal last night with the latest version of the spin-o-rama, but they blew a 5-2 lead in the 3rd. We should be able to take it to them tonight.

Hockey Biltong

January 7th, 2011
10:49 am

R.Stroz -some know me as Gabriel, others call me Hockey Biltong; can I use this thing in Philips???
BTW- You da man!!!!!

Cornbread

January 7th, 2011
10:53 am

Sorry Joe that’s just not the case. Cormier had the responsibility for the third man coming in who was Weiss. Bogosian had good coverage on that play and he took the leading man Frolik who was coming down the high slot. Bogosian never left the slot area. If he doesn’t take Frolik it would have allowed him to skate to the net uncontested – quite possibly with the puck. Bogosian took away that option by correctly positioning himself between his man and the goal, which Cormier did not do – nor Kane for that matter. They too must play defense. There is no way Cormier should have left Weiss wide open like he did. The Thrashers had the numbers and he blew it. I guarantee the coaches are talking to Cormier about his defensive lapse and not Bogosian who at least tried to make up for Cormier’s mistake.

Once again a defenceman does the right thing, makes a good play, and wrongly comes out as the goat because of forwards’ multiple mistakes.

Joe Friday

January 7th, 2011
10:57 am

Cornbread, I think you’re talking to the other Joe, but I saw that play as well and was thinking “catch up” to Cormier as he was lagging behind. Cormier blew it twice on that play, losing the puck at the boards in our zone, and then he dogged it and didn’t skate hard to catch up as the play was going the other way. Rookie mistake, but I wasn’t pleased to see him be lazy like that . . .

Cornbread

January 7th, 2011
10:59 am

One more thing Joe of all those things you mentioned that Bogosian could have and should have done, Cormier could have and should have done but didn’t either. In fact, he did far less on the play – except make more mistakes. But like I said, I’m not going to be too hard on him for that one. He’ll learn what he should have done and not give NHLers such a free pass into his zone again.

Smoothie

January 7th, 2011
11:05 am

Cormier got “picked” off the puck along the wall by the ref. Still not an excuse, but he should have stayed a little higher up the wall for better spacing and the ref would not have been a problem. And yes, he did not get back aggressively enougn and should have done a better job trying to get to Weiss, but no way in hell he’s gonna win that foot race anyway. Why doesn’t Bogosian at least go down on one knee or use his stick more aggressively (it’s not even on the ice in an aggressive defensive position) to block the pass. The angle of the pass to Frolik was less dangerous cuz 1) Pavs is already in position from the strong side and 2) Toby has forced Higgins to go back to the middle. Bogosian’s failure, once again, to read the play correctly contributed to the easy chance. He should at least been more to the middle to make the chance harder for Weiss to deposit. He’s not as culpable as Cormier, but he’s still guilty of making a fairly non-committal play.

Smoothie

January 7th, 2011
11:12 am

C-Viv just tweeted that Kane is out tonite. Time for Burmy or Antropov to step up against his old team. If we can get Antro to start playing 75% as well as he did last March, then we’ll be a lock for the playoffs.

World Be Free

January 7th, 2011
11:21 am

Joe Friday- I was going to boo Colby tonight but determined it is a waste of time. He got his 4th goal of the season last night, deflected off his jersey. On pace for 8 goals this season for $3Mil, great investment.

Agree the Buds are a mess but does that make them dangerous? I think we get Giguere tonight.

Badger Bob

January 7th, 2011
12:10 pm

“the Buds are a mess”. Not many things have remained true for over 40 years. That statement has, to the great delight of all Buffaloans and western Canadians alike! Stomp em’, Thrashers!!

World Be Free

January 7th, 2011
12:17 pm

Badger-not bad enough that the team is bad, but their fans whining is much worse; “we deserve better” is their cry. Tronna is a victim of their own financial success. The team makes so much money there’s no real motivation to build them into a champion. Harold Ballard’s antics are proof of this. 43 years and counting.

Cornbread

January 7th, 2011
12:50 pm

Sorry Joe Friday I was commenting with Joe McGrath but I do agree with you.

Bottom line is Weiss was Cormier’s responsibility. The pass from Higgins made it through 3 Thrashers, Enstrom, Kane, and Cormier. No way should that have happened to make Bogosian come off his man who was going to the net. Again, how many guys do you want him to cover?

Bad play Cormier for the turnover, not hustling back, failing to pick up any man, and causing a goal that has some making his team mate out to be the goat on the play.

ZAvalanche

January 7th, 2011
1:24 pm

@RAWHIDE – Thanks man. You all need to rock the Leafs tonight, wish I could be there. Attended the Avs game last night and we got blanked by the Coyotes. Ugh. Best of luck for Thrashy tonight! I think Buffy will have a 3-point evening.

Joe McGrath

January 7th, 2011
1:32 pm

@Cbread–Yep, I get it. Cormier pooted in public, made a rookie mistake (pic and all).
@Smoothie, my thoughts exactly. Shooting the puck past a goalie and half a defensemanis harder than shooting the puck past a goalie.
Hello dead horse, meet the whip. It’s on to beating TML.
Go Thrashers!

Patrice Cormier

January 7th, 2011
1:40 pm

It was my fifth NHL game ever. You were expecting Guy Carbonneau already?

GaVaHokie

January 7th, 2011
1:46 pm

WBF… Giguere is injured isn’t he? Regardless, per TSN, I think Reimer is starting tonight.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/icechips/

Cornbread

January 7th, 2011
1:55 pm

No Patrice we were not and are not. In fact, most of us understand and have forgiven your rookie mistakes that led to the goal. Unfortunately, some want to blame one of your team mates for it.

Cornbread

January 7th, 2011
2:11 pm

As for Bogosian, I was very critical of his play last season as he was the worst D-man on the team – and that included Valabik. He may very well still be the worst D-man on the team but it is not fare to criticize him for a play that was nowhere near his fault as another team mate’s.

I believe Bogosian is playing much better this season. I also believe he is playing far too much defence. Not in total ice time but in time that the Thrashers are in their own end. There is too much pressure being put on the 20 year old skilled D-man and also the rest of the team. It magnifies any mistakes he and others make and allows them to occur more frequently. That has got to kill his confidence like I believe it did in the last Montreal game.

The Thrashers need to get back to keeping the puck in the other end and forcing turnovers in the neutral zone and not allowing teams time, space, and speed on their break-outs. Do this and there will be far less criticism directed at one very young defenceman.

A2B

January 7th, 2011
2:13 pm

So why are we whining when we won? I mean I know this is the first year that we actually go into games expecting to win, but do we have to be this nit picky about every mistake? I’m quite sure Ramsay and Torchetti have had a few select words for thiose who were accountable for that goal. Lets bury the buds and silence Canada so TSN has lots of crazy canadians saying they were cheated again.

Mr. Heat Miser

January 7th, 2011
2:39 pm

Check out the hashtag #LeafsSince1967 on Twitter – let’s get it trending! Take a dig at ‘em!

World Be Free

January 7th, 2011
2:50 pm

GaVa-I thought Giggie tonight but I may be wrong

Smoothie

January 7th, 2011
3:37 pm

Out of fairness to Zach, and if anyone is curious, here is where Zach stacks up from a very quantitative view:

Out of 148 D-men to have played at least 30 games this year, Zach is right in the middle of the pack (76th) when it comes to the Quality of Competition he’s seen at even-strength. For reference, Toby & Buff are in the top 60 so the amount of ice time Zach and Johnny are seeing against QC is higher than the 2nd pairs on teams such as DET, CHI, SJ and PHX who rely so heavily on their top pairs (obviously). So there is something to the fact that Zach is getting a lot more exposure to 1st and 2nd lines this year. How is he handling it from a statistical viewpoint? Let’s see:

1) Zach is 37th out of 148 when it comes to Relative Corsi (total shots taken less total shots allowed) – Quality of Competition, higher than both Toby and Dustin. Toby is 78th & Big Buff is 86th. The top 10 in this category is: Lidstrom, Lydman, Regehr, Grossman, Robidas, Hamrlik, Bouwmeester, Stuart, B., Visnovsky and Morris.

2) However, when you adjust for the quality of Zach’s teammates when he’s on the ice, his rank drops all the way down to 143rd. In fact, 4 of the 6 Atlanta D-men are in the bottom ten in Corsi relative to QoT (Hainsey 139th, Oduya 140th and Sopel 144th). Mr. Enstrom is 4th and Byfuglien is 7th. So yes, TE & DB get to play with the best quality teammates at full-strength especially at home. Where Zach does seem to struggle the most is against the stronger lines on the road when the opposing team’s coaches match up accordingly. I think that’s why you see TE & DB out on the ice more when the 3rd and 4th lines are out.

3) Since Zach likes to shoot a lot (avg about 2 shots / game), his Corsi rating relative to QoC and QoT is a bit inflated. Looking at just the Relative Corsi ratings, which is really just a raw indicator of how many more shots are taken against Zach & Johnny versus what is taken while they’re out there, both ZB & JO are way down at the bottom, well below the team average. Strangely enough, Nicklas Bergfors ranks highest on the team in pure Corsi so take these numbers with a grain of salt. Of course, Ladd & Little, Bergie’s typical linemates, are the next two forwards in the rankings.

4) In terms of pure plus/minus, Zach has been on the ice 28 times in 35 games for a goal scored against. Johnny has been out 36 times in 43 games, but he’s had to play with Meyer & Welch when Zach was out. For comparison, Toby has been out the most, due to his ice-time, 42 times in 43 games while Dustin has been out 37 times in 43 games. Peculiar I know but I think Toby has had to play with Zach and Ron much more than Buff who’s only been on the ice for 2 goals without Toby (with Oduya). Lastly, Hainsey & Sopes have been out for only 18 GA in 43 games, but they play the fewest minutes and the worst competition on avg.

So yeah, while Zach has been far from perfect, he probably doesn’t deserve to be the goat as much as he is here on this blog. HOWEVER, he’s also the 3rd overall pick from 2008 and the expectations are far higher for him than Hainsey and Sopel. It just seems like some of the finer points of the game are taking longer to sink in with Bogey. He is improving, but nagging injuries have plagued him since he came into the league. Who knows how many games Zach has actually played when fully healthy, but alas, that is the rub for a D-man. You play hurt a lot. Considering the level of competition Zach faces on the road especially, I think most of us realize that Zach must play better on average if we are to be a playoff team and a legitimate threat to advance in the playoffs. Hopefully, the next 39 games will show that improvement.

Smoothie

January 7th, 2011
4:00 pm

Oh and in case you were curious about the most important stat of all, goals against per 60 mins played, here are the team rankings from worst to best:

1) Modin
2) Ladd
3) Peverley
4) Oduya
5) Kane
6) Bogosian
7) Enstrom
8 ) Antropov
9) Stewart
10) Slater
11) Byfuglien
12) Burmistrov
13) Bergfors
14) Thorburn
15) Sopel
16) Eager
17) Little
18) Hainsey
19) Boulton
20) Stapleton

This is every player who has played 10 games at least. So based on Timmy’s best ranking (only .60 GA per game), you can see why Rammer likes him so much. BTW, the top 6 are all 2.75 GA per game. The difference is Toby & Buff are out there for 3.2 GF per game. Little leads the way with 3.45 GF per 60 mins with Slater(!) 2nd at 3.36 GF/ gm. When it comes to relative goal scoring, the top 10 are:

1) Little +1.53
2) Boults +1.09
2) Slater +0.88
3) Byfgul +0.86
4) Hainse +0.72
5) Sopel +0.67
6) Thorbs +0.63
7) Enstro +0.47
8 ) Eager +0.30
9) Bergfo +0.30
10) Stewy +0.22

The worst five? 1) Modin -1.54 2) Oduya -1.15 3) Bogey -0.98 4) Peverley -0.95 5) Antro -0.76

Perhaps Peverley should play a bit less as his 2.05 GF / gm is 3rd lowest on the team with only Antro and Stapleton lower. Obviously, Antro and Pevs need to pick up the scoring for this to be a mid-90 point season rather than a season where we eek out the #8 seed. Hopefully Pevs’ last two games is an indication that he is about to catch fire like he did last Oct/Nov when he led the team with 25 points in 23 games or something like that. It certainly will help to have a goal-scorer like Bergie as opposed to Stewie on the RW.

Based on the quantitative stats, I would go with this lineup:

Ladd-Pevs-Bergy // Kane-Lits-Stewy // Eager/Modin-Burmy/Cormier-Thorbs // Boults-Slates/Cormier-Antro at least until Antropov can find his stride and scoring touch.

Smoothie

January 7th, 2011
4:02 pm

“BTW, the top 6 are all 2.75 GA per game”

Uh, that should read “the worst 6…”

glovesave29

January 7th, 2011
4:29 pm

Sorry Cornbread…NO ONE is worse than cement foot Valabik.

waffleboy

January 7th, 2011
4:33 pm

Toronto giving a little love to the Thrashers. There mid-season awards give two to Atlanta: Pavs for Vezina and Ramsay for Adams.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/nhl-mid-season-awards/article1861881/

R. Stroz

January 7th, 2011
4:42 pm

waffleboy

January 7th, 2011
4:52 pm

R. Stroz – You sir, are a man after my own heart. But I can get all the free hashbrowns I want.

Tom

January 7th, 2011
5:35 pm

It looks like Waffle House is running a special promotion for Toronto Fans and their organization. I came across this ad today.

http://www.atlantaonepagemarketing.com/images/TorontoWaffleHouse.jpg

Enjoy!

Red Light

January 7th, 2011
5:53 pm

The Thrashers blue line has contributed 108 points so far this season, which is second behind only the Detroit Red Wings backline (109) going into Friday’s games. Detroit has played three fewer games, but that’s still a nice stat.

Thrashers blow it open a close game in the third period tonight and coast to victory.

Red Light

January 7th, 2011
5:54 pm

I predict R. Stroz will make a lot of noise at the game tonight.

Hockey Biltong

January 7th, 2011
6:23 pm

Stroz, you bringing your hooter?

Thrashers27

January 7th, 2011
7:48 pm

Enstrom puts the pill in the basket, Boults drops bombs on Orr then Burmistrov hammers Armstrong into the boards. Pretty good start tonight.

Tom

January 7th, 2011
8:17 pm

How can the Leafs record suck so bad when they get calls like they do against the Thrashers. The ref that was in the Leaf’s zone made 2 quick whistles on rebounds by their goalie and then called a double minor on Eager from the other end of the rink.

ugh…

Michael "the abbreviation"

January 7th, 2011
8:38 pm

bogosian is so bad its actually laughable

Thrashers27

January 7th, 2011
8:58 pm

Bogosian must sit!!!

Thrashers27

January 7th, 2011
9:11 pm

WHAT A STEAMING PILE!

Tom

January 7th, 2011
9:15 pm

Do you think they will just waive Eager between periods?

michael

January 7th, 2011
9:38 pm

wow this is a terrible game…it’s def trade time.

LAC

January 7th, 2011
9:40 pm

There are players on this team that need to GO !!! Starting with that PLIE OF $HIT zach borosian, this punk stinks like my bathroom in the AM. Simply SICK to continue to watch this A$$ HOLE punk. Waive him and Mason after the game along with eager and make some smart trades, This SUCKS !!!

bogosian STINKS LIKE HECK, Get rid of his worthless punk marshmellow Butt… NOW !!!!!

Sage of Bluesland

January 7th, 2011
9:42 pm

Funny, where did all the bombast go? Just flipped the game on TV–and I see us down 9 to 1…Thought it was a misprint.

Thank goodness I didn’t waste my money on that product…

LAC

January 7th, 2011
9:45 pm

You are correct Sage, Patton is on TV, much better than this CRAP !!! Friday night, a very average Toronto team and this ??? This will KILL attendence for good now, You can bet all you will hear the rest of the season as we fall into 12th or 13th place, Atlanta moving… After this CRAP may be a GOOD Thing !

Alan R.

January 7th, 2011
9:51 pm

I see a whole lot of panic.

Remember when we spanked the Canes 9-0? Good times. Carolina also won the cup that year. Not saying *we* will win the cup, just saying that even good teams have really bad games sometimes.

Look, every team gets really whalloped every season. It’s why we play the games. Way too soon to panic, but I do agree that a couple personnel changes, or a benching at the very least, needs to occur soon.

michael

January 7th, 2011
9:55 pm

you hit the nail on the head. bad games happen and while they’re upsetting its’s not the end of the world. however something does need to be said or done trade wise.