Did the Thrashers catch a break in Florida last night?

So did the Atlanta Thrashers catch a major break in Sunrise, Florida Wednesday night? Certainly the Panthers think so.

The controversy happened with 6:22 remaining in the third period and Atlanta up 3-2 on a pair of Rich Peverley goals and one from Nic Bergfors. Bryan McCabe shot from the left circle got through Ondrej Pavelec’s right side onto the line…maybe past the line.

A quick look at the play can be found towards the end of this highlight clip.

The referee behind the goal waived it of, blowing the whistle to stop the play. McCabe and the Florida bench waited for a video review from the NHL official’s in Toronto. However…and admittedly, surprisingly…no such review would be forthcoming.

Wednesday night's big players for the Thrashers Ondrej Pavelec and Rich Peveley congratulate each other after the 3-2 win in Florida. Peverley scored 2 goals on 8 shots while Pavelec stopped 33 of 35 Panthers shots. Or was it only 32? (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky)

Wednesday night's big players for the Thrashers Ondrej Pavelec and Rich Peveley congratulate each other after the 3-2 win in Florida. Peverley scored 2 goals on 8 shots while Pavelec stopped 33 of 35 Panthers shots. Or was it only 32? (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky)

Instead, play continued and the Thrashers escaped south Florida with 2 points, leaving Panthers coach Pete DeBoer “baffled”.

“It looked like a goal to me”, DeBoer commented afterwards. “I’m baffled as to why the referees, to make certain, wouldn’t have gone to the penalty box and asked that they take a look at it or Toronto would have buzzed and taken a second look at it. They look at everything else”.

Regardless, the win puts the Thrashers at 22-15-6 for 50…good enough for sixth place in the Eastern Conference.

Pavelec was again outstanding as he kicked aside 33 of 35 Panthers shots. It’s no too often that an NHL goalie can face that many shots and almost consider it a “night off”, but seeing how last Sunday he was called upon 50 times to make saves in Montreal, it may have just felt that way for Opie.

Pavelec is now 15-8-4 with a .936 SV% and 2.14 GAA.

As stated above, Peverely notched goals number 10 and 11 on the season while Nic Bergfors scored his first since December 10th …a rather fortunate bounce for Bergie as it deflected in off Panther netminder Tomas Vokoun and trickled in over the line.

Vokoun did not have a very good night at all and was lifted after Peverley’s second goal of the game gave the Thrashers a 3-1 in the second period. He departed after allowed three goals on 15 shots during 26:27 TOI.

Rich Peverley’s power play goal late in the first was a thing of beauty, however. He made a strong move out of the corner on Vokoun’s right, drove the net then knocked in his own rebound while falling to the ice. The Pevs Dispenser now has 11 goals and 14 assists on the season. He took a game-high 8 shots on goal as well in Florida.

“Peverley did a great job,” Ramsay said of Wednesday night’s offensive hero. “He took the hit to draw the penalty, then took the puck to the net. That was a real good effort from him. Take the penalty, then score. Give him four marks for that one.”

Next on the agenda is the Toronto Maple Leafs Friday night. They are struggling right now with a 14-20-4 record and reside in the cellar of the Northeast Division. The Leafs will head to Atlanta after playing St. Louis tonight in Toronto and could be in 14th place in conference if they lose to the Blues and the Islanders win in Edmonton later on in the evening.

These are the teams the Thrashers need to take of business against, needless to say. They may have gotten a lucky break in Florida last night, but generally speaking a team creates it’s own luck more times than not.

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176 comments Add your comment

AtlFlamesFan

January 6th, 2011
12:53 pm

World Be Free

January 6th, 2011
1:01 pm

Smoothie-I think Commodore has been “livin” off his Stanley Cup experience for a couple seasons. The act has finally wore thin. Nice to see Columbus eating his contract and that idiot Alan Portzline (aka Pork loin).

AtlFlamesFan

January 6th, 2011
1:07 pm

@ZAvalanche
I wasn’t sure either, so I looked it up.
Here is rule 38(v) from the current NHL Rulebook.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26326

(v) Any potential goal requiring video review must be reviewed prior to or during the next stoppage of play. No goal may be awarded (or disallowed) as a result of video review once the puck has been dropped and play has resumed.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
1:07 pm

Pork loin! Awesomeness. Thanks for that! :)

Always Hoping

January 6th, 2011
1:27 pm

Luck is where hard work meets opportunity!!!!

rob

January 6th, 2011
1:28 pm

Why look at dmen? Put Meyers on waivers and bring up Kulda. Give some of our guys a break down the strech and give the kid some experience now. Zach in particular might very well benefit, and after seeing Buff crash into the boards…. Problem with Langenbrunner is he would challenge the leadership IMO, at a time when that is still fragile for us. I think we look at the Wolves for any movement, and stop finding the Stapleton’s. I am wondering what kind of hold the Wolves have on us because there is such a lack of movement back and forth there. Our farm club needs to be closer. I liked the line shake ups, think we had gone a little stale, and glad to see Antro skating well. Cormier, Kane, and Thorburn together should be terror if they can stay out of each others way!

Red Light

January 6th, 2011
1:30 pm

Smoothie:

If your friends, who are Canes’ fans, know as much about pro player personnel as you do, I am almost positive they are in last place in their Fantasy Leagues, too. :(

Commodore was a very solid performer in his day, but as you and WBF suggest, his day is now past. Not saying I want him here, but I’d sure as heck take him before seeing Boris Badanov back in the lineup. But, he’s not worth the hit, and he still has two years left on his deal. Two dozen others would make more sense than him, although I don’t see a deal for a defenseman in the near future.

They like Freddy Meyer.

World Be Free

January 6th, 2011
1:36 pm

Red Light, I’d take Freddie too I thought he was a good depth signing. I do not think Doris is every going to the see the light of Philips Arena again as a player. That #10 pick has been dispatched.

rob-can’t wait for smitty’s return to get his take on the goings on in Buffalo last week.

Rawhide

January 6th, 2011
1:36 pm

Always Hoping – “I’m a firm believer in luck. And the harder I work, the more of it I seem to have” Thomas Jefferson

Matt

January 6th, 2011
1:37 pm

@rob-why do you think leadership is still shaky/fragile in the clubhouse? Seems that should not be an issue given that Ladd has been Captain for nearly two months now.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
1:42 pm

What does Mike Commodore’s play have anything to do with fantasy hockey? :-) p C’mon man, you know Commie has been overrated forever!!

razorneck13

January 6th, 2011
1:45 pm

I saw no issue with the ref’s call on that no-goal. Didn’t see Pavs do anything to cover it up either. In fact watching the Florida announcer guy doing the little screen scribble stuff looked dumb to me…what was so visible to that guy or anybody else that I couldn’t see? I just didn’t see the puck or any controversy there.

Pevs was stellar, I love how so many of our guys can be “The Guy” in any given game. Definitely a welcome change, very entertaining.

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
1:58 pm

@AtlFlamesFan

Thanks for the research! I may be thinking of Olympic play but I have seen it happen. Doesn’t matter now, Thrashy won! Keep it up!

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
2:01 pm

Z – I’ve seen it happen and even Ed Olcyk talked about it happening in the Stanley Cup Finals last spring. There is something to it.

Rawhide

January 6th, 2011
2:02 pm

Not that it matters a hill-o-beans to us now…or will ease Panthers fans who may feel they got jobbed on McCabe’s “no-goal” call…but I just heard on NHL Live that an official stated the play should have been reviewed, that it was a mistake on their part it wasn’t.

I didn’t hear if that was an on-ice ref or an official in Toronto, but…

Red Light

January 6th, 2011
2:12 pm

Everything you ever wanted to know about the NHL waiver system. Written by one of SmoothieKing’s cohorts, Fred Poulin!

http://hockeyindependent.com/blog/slasher98/29223

jimbo

January 6th, 2011
2:16 pm

Nice to have a bounce go our way. But, why in the world don’t we have a shut down strategy and mentality in the last period of games when we lead???????. Most good teams do. We don’t. Opposing teams sail into our zone and are given opportunities to score. How about a neutral zone trap and a little press at the blue line?

Joe Friday

January 6th, 2011
2:46 pm

Dudley’s going to make a move this weekend, I smell it coming . . .

Alan R.

January 6th, 2011
2:51 pm

Bill – Pretty sure it was Mike Murphy. In other words, an NHL official that resides in Eggoville..

Tom

January 6th, 2011
3:10 pm

Messing around with Excel here are some projected numbers based upon points per game. The Thrashers with 95-96 pts would be in 7th place at the end of the season 3 or so points ahead of Montreal with 92-93 pts.

Rank Team G PT PPG Projected
1 Philadelphia 39 53 1.359 111.4
2 Pittsburgh 41 55 1.341 110.0
3 Tampa Bay 41 53 1.293 106.0
4 Washington 41 52 1.268 104.0
5 Boston 38 48 1.263 103.6
6 NY Rangers 41 49 1.195 98.0
7 Atlanta 43 50 1.163 95.3
8 Montreal 40 45 1.125 92.3
9 Carolina 39 42 1.077 88.3
10 Florida 38 38 1.000 82.0
11 Buffalo 39 37 0.949 77.8
12 Ottawa 40 37 0.925 75.9
13 Toronto 38 32 0.842 69.1
14 NY Islanders 37 30 0.811 66.5
15 New Jersey 39 22 0.564 46.3

GaVaHokie

January 6th, 2011
3:17 pm

The Fourth Period has their annual Top 25 Trade Deadline list up…

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade_deadline/top25/index.html

Langenbrunner, Brunnette, Tanguay and Moulson listed as Atlanta interests.

Calgary listed as interested in Bergfors.

Perhpas Bergfors for Tanguay and Hagman?… God, I hope not.

Rawhide

January 6th, 2011
3:18 pm

Dudley’s going to make a move this weekend, I smell it coming . . .

Joe Friday – Uh, no. Sorry. That was me….the cafe was serving burritos for lunch. :oops:

Brendan

January 6th, 2011
3:20 pm

I’d rather be on this side of the “break” than the other. It’s nice to get a gift, every now and again.

Last night, Bergfors and Ladd were +2, while Enstrom and Thorburn were -2. But guess who played 24:09? Wasn’t Enstrom. Wasn’t Byfuglien. It was Oduya, who went +1, with 1 shot on goal. Byfuglien had 5 shots, was a -1, while logging 23:17. I did notice that Eric Boulton was a rare minus on the evening, at -1. Boulton only saw 6:37 of ice time.

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
3:27 pm

@Smoothie

Thanks for the confirmation, glad to see that I wasn’t just imagining it or drinking the Kool-Aid! Not sure when the rule changed but I am working on finding it out.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
3:49 pm

ZA – no problem! I remember sitting on my couch watching the SCF last year and thinking to myself how odd it would be if they had to back-track and put time back on the clock and essentially wipe out a goal that may have happened after the initial no-goal ruling in question had been overturned. Perhaps Eddie O and Doc were just ruminating and surmising, but I could swear that they were talking about an actual rule that would allow that to happen.

World Be Free

January 6th, 2011
4:02 pm

GaVa – how about Bergie for Cory Sarich and a 2nd round pick? If Calgary is the dance partner, then that’s the deal I would make.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
4:02 pm

JoeF – I agree wholeheartedly, I don’t buy this baloney about Valabik going on re-entry just so someone may claim him. While that may happen, I could see Boris getting thrown in to some kind of deal to help a team that is even more banged up on the B/L than we are. Yeah, it may make more sense to claim him via re-entry, but if a Nik Bergfors is at stake, paying BV pro-rata on his $762 K / year deal isn’t that big a deal right?

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
4:07 pm

WBF – I like it, makes sense to me. I want Sarich or Beauchemin, then maybe Phillips or Regher.

Thrashers27

January 6th, 2011
4:11 pm

Wow, Brendan! I find your stats about Oduya surprising. I thought Oduya was having an awful game last night. I even noted it within Rawhide’s previous blog as I was watching the game. He was out of position multiple times, made bad passes, which were intercepted and was stripped of the puck a few times as well.

Matt

January 6th, 2011
4:53 pm

80th….woohoo!

litz

January 6th, 2011
5:04 pm

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
5:39 pm

So after a dialogue with one of the Avs announcers who watched your video link Rawhide, here is what he said regarding the rules and how the Panther’s screwed up on the non-goal call.

From Marc Moser for the Altitude Sports Network (and my favorite voice personality):

“Thanks for the email….. I know exactly what you’re talking about and read comments from FLA coach, Peter DeBoer about it. Basically, it’s like this.

If a play is close enough to deserve a look at, the on ice officials (if they’re not sure the puck went in) will let the play continue until the next whistle and then they’ll hustle on over to the official scorer table and check to see if the puck went in. If it DID, then they’ll award the goal, put all the time back on the clock and re-start the game from the time the play in question happened. If it didn’t go in, they just continue the game from that time.

Here’s where it appears things went wrong. The on ice officials may have expected the guys in Toronto (who are the ones to actually review ALL situations like this) to buzz down to the ice at the next whistle and say “hey guys, we’re looking’ at that one play to see if it was a goal, hang on a sec”…… If there was a question and Toronto didn’t call in, then the on-ice officials can go to the table at the next whistle and check in, call Toronto, and have them review it….BUT, neither appears to have happened and I’m not sure what the guys on-ice OR in Toronto were doing…maybe they just missed it..period. They can’t see everything from every game in real time and sometimes they need help from the on-ice officials to get a cue to review….it appears, obviously, that no one either saw it or thought enough of it to review.

In that event, the video coach from FLA should call to one of the assistants on the bench (who has a receiver in his ear and a mic as well) and say “guys, that puck went in…at the whistle have coach DeBoer call one of the refs over and INSIST that they ask Toronto to review it…don’t take the face-off, make them review it” … I don’t think THAT happened either. But, I don’t know how quickly the next whistle happened or if the FLA video guy just seemed to miss it, but that’s part of his job…However, I don’t know all of the circumstances so I can’t say if he dropped the ball…either way, it seems the on-ice and Toronto guys should have bailed him out in the first place. It’s just a missed situation by everyone. and a loss for Florida.

Thanks for listening Mike, Go Avs!

Marc”

Badger Bob

January 6th, 2011
5:40 pm

Can’t say I’ve seen conclusive evidence to overturn the no-goal. You gotta see white between the puck and the line and, even with all the telestrator scribbles, there was no evidence of that. Should have been reviewed, probably wouldn’t have been overturned, and there’s no saying that Pevs doesn’t go score his hat trick to win the game even if it counts.

PS: As a close Flames watcher, I recommend steering clear of anyone not named Iginla. Almost any trade there would make us older and may not make us better.

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
5:42 pm

So basically what Smoothie and I are talking about is that it is possible for a play to go on for 10 more minutes (or more) without a whistle and then at the whistle the video judges can rule a goal or non-goal. So the previous poster, sorry don’t remember your name, is correct on rule 38. Nice work.

Badger Bob

January 6th, 2011
5:43 pm

ZA – that raises a good point – why didn’t FLA use their time out to harrass the refs into reviewing it? DeBoer has to be kicking himself for not doing that…

Joe McGrath

January 6th, 2011
5:44 pm

Once again, Bogo blew it last night. Watch the replay of the Weiss goal.

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
5:50 pm

@Bob, to me it looks pretty clear that Pavs pulls the puck out of the inner padding after the whistle and got away with it as the refs thought he had it in his glove. But you are right, totally deserved a review. Not a crime if you aren’t caught right?……..

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
5:53 pm

@Bob, you are so right. DeBoer screwed up big time.

Smoothie

January 6th, 2011
6:30 pm

Thanks Z!

Wow, that was yeoman’s work right there!

ZAvalanche

January 6th, 2011
6:58 pm

LOl Smoothie, no problem, I hate not knowing all the rules and the NHL has a few! Plus, it is good to get in with the local announcing media talent and if there is any announcer I would dig having a beer with it would definitely be Marc Moser, aka “The Mose” who so graciously replied within the hour. Knowing the right people = free tickets!

Cornbread

January 6th, 2011
7:24 pm

No Bogosian was not at fault on the Weiss goal! Cormier was!

Not only did Cormier cause the turnover in the other end but he floated back in his own zone and didn’t cover Weiss who was his man. He half hearted tried to get his stick in the lane when he realized he was beat. Bogosian had his man which was Frolik. He had him covered correctly to prevent the give and go. When he realized that Weiss was left unattended in the high slot he let Frolik go to cover a wide open Weiss. By that time it was to late. How many guys do you want Bogosian to cover?

Even the FL broadcasters commented on the lack of effort from ATL’s back checkers which included Kane who also went after Higgins who Enstrom had covered. Neither one of them stopped the pass. But it was hardly their fault either. If Cormier wouldn’t have fixated on the puck carrier he would have seen Weiss was his responsibility. The Thrashers had 4 guys on 3 Panthers. That goal should never have occurred. Cormier blew it on both ends of the ice. I can forgive him for making a rookie mistake but placing the blame on Bogosian for that goal is wrong. Watch the tape, Again!

AtlFlamesFan

January 6th, 2011
7:50 pm

Agreed Cornbread. Cormier was the one.

Mr. Heat Miser

January 6th, 2011
9:24 pm

Maybe they can rename the Air Canada Centre to The Waffle House

Tom

January 6th, 2011
10:31 pm

Toronto went to a shoot out and got an emotional win, now have to get on a plane and head to Atlanta to play tomorrow. Let’s hope they show up like we did last week in New Jersey to play our rested Thrashers… {insert evil laugh here}

Red Light

January 6th, 2011
11:51 pm

If you’re looking for d-men, you still have to compete with Montreal, who in addition to Markov has now lost Josh Gorges for the season. They got the Wiz, and now lets see who they go after. They’ve got some room to maneuver so maybe Sarich winds up in the discussion there too. Regehr is second only to Ed Jovanoski as one of the top overrated d-men in the league. Pass!

Alan R.

January 6th, 2011
11:52 pm

That goal should never have occurred. Cormier blew it on both ends of the ice.

The ref didn’t blow it, though. The whistle, I mean. This is moot because Higgins was offsides by a country mile. Yes, the goal should never have occurred, and Cormier did screw up, but the officials really screwed the pooch.

Cornbread

January 7th, 2011
2:18 am

Alan, not on the Weiss goal. Higgins was clearly onside for that one after receiving the puck from Frolik, skating in the zone, and then dishing to Weiss. That was a good zone entry.

On Higgins goal it was very close. But, I have yet to see conclusive proof that he was offsides on the breakaway. The best I could pause on the replay shows the puck on the leading edge of the blue line with his trailing toe across the line and heel of that skate well inside the blue paint. The puck was going faster than he was. It was likely a very good call on the Linesman’s part even though it looked like he was off on the live shot and full speed replay. I thought the same thing as you when I first saw it but now I think it was probably a good no offsides call and a good goal.

World Be Free

January 7th, 2011
7:45 am

The problem with making trades is that we really don’t have much to bargain with. We already moved out 32 for this year. Not much of value with the Wolves, not much in the juior system; only Bergie is of value for trade on our roster without dirupting the current mix. Our only real ace in the hole is having cap space for a team looking to move an overpaid vet who still might have tread left on the tire. I thought Rolston fit that bill.

World Be Free

January 7th, 2011
7:46 am

That’s our #2 this year

Spud Webb

January 7th, 2011
7:48 am

Kristi Yamaguchi is hot, good for Brett hedican. ahahahhaha…Remember how worried about scoring in the preseason, with good reason…nice to know that we’re not worrying about that anymore, team concept is doing well for us.
Watched sharks vs sabres last night, chippy, good game. Mike weber took a beating from Clowe, miller stands on his head & the fans BOOOOOOOOOING the Sharks, I was shocked at how loud they were booing. It was great!!! RL, more and more when i watch Montador I dream of him being down here playing. Man crush on him, solid D man, no publicity, does some dirty work, moves the puck, never out of position.