Thrashers and Penguins and Caps… Oh my!

Good morning Thrasherville! Here are just a couple quick notes and thoughts regarding the Thrashers, the loss to Pittsburgh and this afternoon’s matchup in Washington D.C.

First off…if you cast your vote for Brent Sopel to be the last Thrasher off of Schnide Island, pick again. His blast at 2:41 of the first period gave Atlanta an early 1-0 over the Penguins, and came just 20 ticks of the clock after Chris Thorburn and Michael Rupp were put in a 2-minute time out for not playing nicely with each other.

Shortly after Sopes slipped off The Schnide, Dustin Byfuglien came painfully close to putting the home team up 2-0, taking a Rich Peverley pass from the left wing and snapping off a shot from close in. But Pittsburgh goalie Marc-Andre Fleury made a great play moving to his left to get his skate out to block the shot. It was the first of several very good save he made to keep the Pens within one goal…including one against Andrew Ladd, who was able to find himself alone in front of Fleury after turning Kris Letang inside-out in the left wing face off circle.

Pittsburgh Penguins goalie Marc-Andre Fleurymakes a save on Dustin Byfuglien's wrap-around attempt (AP Photo/Gregory Smith)

Pittsburgh Penguins goalie Marc-Andre Fleury makes a save on Dustin Byfuglien's during Saturday's 4-2 win over the Thrashers (AP Photo/Gregory Smith)

As it turns out, it was just what they needed.

After the Thrashers outshot Pittsburgh 7-1 in the first four minutes of the game, the Penguins slowly began to turn things in their favor and Ondrej Pavelec was then called upon more often to try and continue his work of late.

Then in the mid to late stages of the second period, Pittsburgh turned the physicality knob up to 11 and started hitting anything that moved on the ice. It lead to Evgeni Malkin’s first of three goals, which came with 6:28 left before the second intermission…a quick snapper that went five-hole on Pavelec.

Malkin then scored twice in the third period for the hat trick…the fourth that Atlanta has surrendered to an opposing player so far this season. His second goal came while Pittsburgh was on the power play. He redirected a ricochet off the boards behind the net past Pavelec and then potted an empty netter to provide the 4-2 final score.

Sidney Crosby had deflected in a Deryk Engelland shot to tie the game at 1-1 less then three minutes into the final period.

On both goals in the second period, Malkin’s power play one and Crosby’s game-tying tally, Zach Bogosian was…er, uh, well…let’s just say he was “in the vicinity” of defending against the goal-scorers.

After the game, Thrashers coach Craig Ramsay gave high praise to the Penguins scorers say, “They’re not both just talented they’re strong. Malkin is a monster and Crosby is as strong on the puck as there is”.

Pavelec echoed those thoughts. “Those guys don’t need many chances to score goals,” the young netminder said. “They may be the best players in the NHL”.

Evander Kane knocks Pittsburgh's Deryk Engelland off the puck. The Thrashers will play in Washington Sunday afternoon and Kane has scored 4 goals against the Caps so far this season (AP Photo/Gregory Smith)

Evander Kane knocks Pittsburgh's Deryk Engelland off the puck. The Thrashers will play in Washington Sunday afternoon and Kane has scored 4 goals against the Caps so far this season (AP Photo/Gregory Smith)

“It’s tough to play them for 60 minutes, but if we want to make the playoffs, we need to shut down those guys”.

As for the game itself…I thought it was an overall good effort by the Thrashers, they came out with a great deal of jump and life in their game. But the Penguins simply took this game over halfway through and grinded the win.

Now, the Thrashers wing their way to D.C. for the third matchup this fall against the defending Southeast Division champs. That’s a tough way to rebound against a hard loss, if you ask me. But Atlanta has found a measure of success against the Caps, earning 3 of a possible 4 points against the division foe in the previous two meetings.

Evander Kane has scored four of his seven goals against Washington, 2 in the 4-2 season-opening win and another pair in the 4-3 overtime loss on October 23.

Chris Mason is expected to get today’s start in goal for the Thrashers. He is coming off the 5-2 loss in Ottawa last Tuesday and is 4-0-1 against the Caps in his career with a 2.25 GAA and .924 SV% in six games played against them.

The Capitals find themselves once again atop the division standings. Their 25 points are 8 more than Atlanta and 7 more than second place Tampa Bay.

Alex Ovechkin leads their overall scoring with 23 points…9 goals and 14 points…while Alexander Semin’s12 goals are the most for that team. As with Malkin, Semin is one of four players to get the hats flying against the Thrashers. Tampa Bay’s Steven Stamkos and St. Louis’ Jay McClement are the other two.

214 comments Add your comment

Dandylions

November 14th, 2010
9:23 am

Really stendec – untalented Pittsburgh Tuxedobirds of Cynthia Crossdresser. Unbelievable!

Rightshot

November 14th, 2010
9:24 am

Apparently Malkin found one of the
old thrashers travel brochures that says”top scorer in a slump, come play the thrashers” we really Need to destroy all those.
Good game otherwise. Here’s hopping for abetted result today.

Rightshot

November 14th, 2010
9:25 am

Oh yea FIRST!

R. Stroz

November 14th, 2010
9:30 am

Bogosian is quickly becoming the new Jon Koncak. The guy is BAD (Big And Dumb).

Russian

November 14th, 2010
9:36 am

**to R.Stroz**
Yep. We got problem with Bogus. I hope Meyer will play today and Bogus will sit.

English Teacher

November 14th, 2010
9:50 am

I don’t like that the Thrashers were out muscled by the physical play of the Pens. That led to a brutally bad time.

jimbo

November 14th, 2010
10:13 am

ENCOURAGING! A bounce here or there and it could have been 4-2 us. We skated, back checked, moved the puck with them. Pavs played well. Little has great “jump” all night. If we get this type of an effort every game, we can play with anyone. Thorburn- stick it to the Big O today.

Joe Friday

November 14th, 2010
11:10 am

The boys played very well. Has the goalie consultant been working with Pavs? I think so, he’s much better positionally. Little was flying, that’s good to see. I concur with jimbo, keep that effort up each game and they’ll be in good shape. Sopel’s said in his interview at the end of the first that the team was starting to come together in Ramsay’s system “we’re just now getting it and it shows” or something to that effect.

Smoothie

November 14th, 2010
11:36 am

Joe – if they are just now starting to get it, then I hope it translates into a 3 or 4 game winning streak before we end up 5 or 6 points out of 8th place.

Really is a shame Big buff couldn’t convert on that perfect feed from Pevs, a two goal lead might have been very demoralizing to a team that’s been very erratic all year. And Ladd nearly flipped the puck high enough but just didn’t catch it solid, damn!

DWTOO

November 14th, 2010
11:40 am

This was a well played game by both teams – each had momentum and chances and it could’ve gone the Thrashers way with a few more bounces. Too many Pens fans tho’ – espeecially the one in the bird costume. That was ridiculous.

AtlFlamesFan

November 14th, 2010
1:06 pm

Overall, great effort, and very entertaining game. But we gotta have points. Hate to be appearing to jump on the anti-Bogo bandwagon, but besides the 2 goals mentioned above, he seems to be making some bad decisions. I especially did not like in the 2nd period, when he had the puck behind our net; could have skated up the ice with the puck, but instead, rifled the puck around the boards, feeding the Penguins’ left D. They didn’t score on that play, but it did result in a dangerous shot from the point.

Cornbread

November 14th, 2010
1:52 pm

That was a good game. I watched it twice and I can not say that the Penguins outplayed the Thrashers. They just beat them. It happens. I’ll take a loss like that. Keep playing like that and they will win more often than not.

HonkyTonkHero

November 14th, 2010
2:25 pm

Fun game to be at. My father-in-law is in town and has been to a few games with me in which the team was horrible. He watched a bit of the game against the Wild the other night and then went to the Pens game with me last night. He was super impressed and made the comment that this was a completly different team. I told him I think we have a great team, just not a consistent one yet. As soon as they get to where they play this way every night we will have great success.

I can stomach a loss like that any day. Their super stars came through for them….Crosby, Malkin and Fleury did what they are paid the big bucks to do. Our big guys took alot of great shots too and for once I didnt feel like we were over passing (maybe a few times). I do think big Nik needs to shoot more and keep his damn stick on the ice when he is in front of the net.

Anyways….better luck against Washington today!

Thrashers27

November 14th, 2010
2:34 pm

Take it for what it’s worth, but Ecklund says Thrash are interested in Setoguchi. I’d be okay with that at a reasonable price.

alex

November 14th, 2010
3:27 pm

good game but, and this is not the problem for thrashers but fatal disease, see differences most of the team in this league able to keep star players within (wash., chigago, phil., tampa, sj, deit., etc., etc.) small minority atlanta, florida not. where norton, joikinen, boum., heatley, hossa, kovy, savard. the all gone, so no result for this team. i hate asg gutts, feel sorry for ram and dud, both did outstanding job. still puzzled what come first end of the world or court decision and new owners.

LAC

November 14th, 2010
3:32 pm

Stroz is 110% correct, “zach” needs to GO !

I am sorry, but he stands around, never hits anyone and is almost always out of position.

One play, he got the puck behing the net and then BLINDLY rimmed the puck “thinking” it would go out. It went right to their D-Man who passed it and it was almost a goal. Then he stood around more and more.

What is this guys problem ????? He has ZERO offense and his positional play is just AWFUL.

I know there are a lot of people who say, He’s too young etc… But he is regressing
not progressing and I, for one, have seen enough. Need to ship him and Little away,
they have proven they cannot play in the NHL at a high consistant level. Sorry the truth hurts !!!

stendek

November 14th, 2010
3:51 pm

So proud to see Craig Petrino is a member of the I Love Cynthia Crossdresser Fan Club. Cheez! No wonder the Thrashers were in awe of the mighty ones. Hey coach. We were supposed to beat the bestards not kiss their candy a$$es! What a putz you have turned out to be. Hope you can put your hero worship aside this afternoon. This is a damn critical game for losers! Fans will stay away as long as home ineptitude continues. Sorry Zachster! Just a fact of life in professional sports. GO FALCONS! STENDEK

stendek

November 14th, 2010
4:00 pm

So glad to read these comments from braindead Thrasher apologists. I was under impression the Pittsburgh Penguins won at Philips Arena in regulation. Blocking home team from any points. See it was another victory. Wow. Thanks for setting me straight intelligent ones. Most of you will wonder why Thrashers come up just short of playoffs. Few will truly realize it is from choke jobs like that one. Thanks again for filling me in on how wonderful guys in blue performed. Such wise fan base. Glad both Thrasher fans were in attendance! So proud to see Craig Petrino is a member of the I Love Cynthia Crossdresser Fan Club. Cheez! No wonder the Thrashers were in awe of the mighty ones. Hey coach. We were supposed to beat the bestards not kiss their candy a$$es! What a putz you have turned out to be. Hope you can put your hero worship aside this afternoon. This is a damn critical game for losers! Fans will stay away as long as home ineptitude continues. Sorry Zachster! Just a fact of life in professional sports. GO FALCONS! STENDEK

stendek

November 14th, 2010
4:24 pm

Hi Bill. Hope all is well with you and yours pal. Hope Thrashers bring their A game today. Need success to entice fans to Philips Arena. Also need points just for sake of points. Points lost at home particularly distress me. As you have guessed. Oh well. Drop the puck already! Talk with you soon Rawhide. STENDEK

Brendan

November 14th, 2010
4:44 pm

Minutes from puckdrop. Last night, the Capitals played an OT game vs. Buffalo. That game was 1:00 from a shootout, when Vanek scored the “highlight of the night” for the Sabres. I don’t think Ovechkin even had a point. Which means, what? That’s right. He’s due, today!!

Let’s go Thrashers!! And yes, this game is being carried by Fox SportSouth (SPSO), so you won’t have to watch it on the Center Ice “mosaic” channel, like the Penguins game, if you didn’t attend, in person.

HookyBob

November 14th, 2010
5:12 pm

Well, for what it is worth,…. I believe our record is better when the other team scores first.

Brendan

November 14th, 2010
5:16 pm

Well, sure enough!! Ovechkin scores about a minute in. I tells ya, I didn’t want to be right about that earlier blog comment.

litz

November 14th, 2010
5:21 pm

Man, you look at the replay, and I swear that puck was going to go wide, and the stick deflection was what sent it in …

Now we have a PK against these guys … *sigh*.

litz

November 14th, 2010
5:25 pm

And predictable result … (I will grant ‘em that they took it to 1:59 before giving up the goal)

litz

November 14th, 2010
5:33 pm

Now … *that* is how to run a PP … just keep peppering shots ’til one goes in!

Looks like Peverely got it.

litz

November 14th, 2010
6:03 pm

Pevs goal was reassigned to Enstrom.

Ladd just scored on a breakaway; 3-2 now

litz

November 14th, 2010
6:06 pm

and there’s the answerback. Mason is getting clobbered.

litz

November 14th, 2010
6:07 pm

Pavelec is now in the game.

litz

November 14th, 2010
6:08 pm

Little just cut it back to 4-3 …

(lotta activity in just a few short minutes in this game)

Nate

November 14th, 2010
6:09 pm

Mason…what a waste of money thus far. Now Pavs is in. As a goalie you have to give your team a chance to win. Clearly he did not tonight. No excuse for Mason’s play tonight. It just sucked.

litz

November 14th, 2010
6:21 pm

SHORTY!

Looks like Ladd bounced one off the goaltender, and Little poke it home!

litz

November 14th, 2010
6:23 pm

Or is it … play under review …

litz

November 14th, 2010
6:23 pm

Nope, good goal! and a tie game!

stendek

November 14th, 2010
6:52 pm

Just tuned back in. Between periods. See Crapitals lost interest after they went up by two goals. From highlights Marshmallow Mason looked abysmal. Again. Ship him. Goalie at farm club can be no worse! Look for Pavs to make several magical saves in third period but allow winner on whiff job. Believe Thrasher offense is through. Fans here will cry moral victory. In reality it will be no points. Again! With losing streak intact. Hope I am wrong. Really do! STENDEK

stendek

November 14th, 2010
7:05 pm

Guess Falcons are NOW top NFC team huh? Thanks Cowboys! STENDEK

Thrashers27

November 14th, 2010
7:25 pm

I’ve never seen a Thrashers team play so well along the boards as they have tonight. Anyone else see Buff trap the puck between stick and wall to push it up off the ice and gain control? That guy is something else.

Wonder what Mason’s deal is. He seems to have lost his mojo.

Brendan

November 14th, 2010
7:33 pm

Hate to pull a Stendec here, but I honestly thought … after that “fluky” Ovechkin goal … that UNLESS Mason got in the zone, … I just felt, in my gut, to put Pavelec in. By the time the 3rd Capitals goal was in, it was second time the Thrash trailed by two. But Mason stayed. And then, the Capital got ANOTHER two-goal lead, at 4-2. Finally, Ramsay says … “Pavs, get up. You’re goin’ in.”

The result? A “no decision” for Mason. This game will either be won or lost by Pavelec. By rule, the winning and losing goalie is the one in net when the winning or losing goal is scored. Crud, the Capitals just scored. Erskine, I think, to make it, 4-3. What I was going to say was … “let’s not give away that ‘pity point’ that we have going. Until this moment, Pavelec had not given up a goal.

Last time around, Kane scored in the final seconds to secure a point. I think Kane has it within him … to do it again!!

Tampa Bay Buccaneers won today, so they are still nippin’ at the Falcons heels, at 6-3. The good news is … the Falcons actually won a two-game lead on the Bucs, given that the Falcons have won a head-to-head game with Tampa Bay. Can you believe the Dallas Cowboys had responded like this?, in their 1st game under their new coach? Well, you would, if you believe the Cowboys have been playing to get Wade Phillips fired. Enough football talk. Go Thrashers!!!

Brendan

November 14th, 2010
7:36 pm

Thrashers are crashin’ and bagin’! The chances have been there. One went just over Kane’s stick in the goal crease. Ladd just had a chance. Two minutes to go!! Time to think about pulling the goalie.

Brendan

November 14th, 2010
7:39 pm

54.6 seconds left. Thrashers take a timeout to rest the PP unit, effectively. This is the moment … when you really find out what Thrasher management thinks of you. If Ramsay believes you can score and tie this game, you’re who goes out on that ice. If not, you sit.

stendek

November 14th, 2010
7:41 pm

Was I right huh? In my estimation Pathetic Pavs is no better than Marshmallow Mason! Know what apologists? A loss is still a damn loss. Guess that idiotic clueless moron Craig Petrino will cry that Thrashers deserved a better result. QUITTERS DID NOT! Bums are losers and will always be losers. Hope Crapitals put dozen on em at Philips Arena. No guts. No pride. No heart. No toughness. No character. No points. NO CHANCE! To all who wish to defend that two goal loss debacle. Shut the Hell up. No excuse for that shet! PERIOD. STENDEK

Brendan

November 14th, 2010
7:42 pm

Empty-netter ends it, 6-4. The Thrashers are now under .500, and outside of playoff position, on November 14, 2010. If you’ll recall our preseason talk, this blog debated, substantively, about where we’d be on or around this date.

Your thoughts?

stendek

November 14th, 2010
7:52 pm

I am going to print up a tee shirt along with some bumper stickers that say I HATE THE THRASHERS! Quitters really gall my a$$. Apologists line up. What just happened? Thrashers extend losing streak! Thrashers get no points. Six more goals against to maintain that 6.0 GAA. So screw all of you sunshine and lollipops delusionists! Way to go Pathetic Pavs. Who needs Sori Letemin with YOU between pipes? Damn choking bestard! Hope attendance figures pleased Zach. Damn loser! STENDEK

stendek

November 14th, 2010
7:54 pm

Cannot tell you my true thoughts Brendan! Would be deleted immediately. STENDEK

Tom Lysiak

November 14th, 2010
7:57 pm

Man, I hope Boults is OK. That was a rough go with that cement-head Erskine.

LAC

November 14th, 2010
7:59 pm

Just awful… When we play the elite we LOSE, Period. We need to make changes, another bigger name scorer, but we need to RID OURSELVES of zach B. This kid is now playing at ECHL level, I doubt he could play defense in Juniors anymore… He has LOST it, his defense is TERRIBLE.

Just hate losing when we were in a good position, TB lost and we could have moved ahead of them, but after this weekend, a lottery pick is in our future, because the playoffs… ARE NOT !

R. Stroz

November 14th, 2010
8:00 pm

Tonight’s suck player of the game award:

Mason Sucks!

Brendan

November 14th, 2010
8:06 pm

Red Light, can I task you with something, at your convenience, sir? I promise. It’s not grandios, and won’t take an exceptional amount of your time. Is it my opinion, or a demonstrable fact, that the Washington Capitals are a “upper echeleon” team, in the NHL, over the past 3-4 seasons? Can we get a DEFINITIVE answer on that, through research? Follow up research topic, is it my opinion, or a fairly clear-cut FACT, that George McPhee is an “above average” GM in this league? Can we get his CAREER won/loss record? Could I reasonably get away with saying, “George McPhee is an upper echelon GM?” Would calling George McPhee an “elite” GM, be an exaggeration? I look forward to what your research finds, Red Light.

For the sake of argument, let’s just say … that the 3-time defending Southeast Division Champions, and defending President’s Trophy winners … are an ELITE franchise, in today’s NHL. Is it right to throw the Thrashers under the bus, after a loss, on the road, to such a team? Or to do the very same after a Thrasher loss to the Pittsburgh Penguins, who won the Eastern Conference in 2008 and 2009, including the Stanley Cup, in 2009?

Let the record show … that I don’t come here, after every loss, to dump on the the BELOW THE FLOOR of cap Thrashers, with the arguably the worst ownership in the NHL.

stendek

November 14th, 2010
8:07 pm

Marshmallow Mason may have sucked but he was on sidelines when Pathetic Pavs whiffed in losing goal. Anyone who believes Thrashers tried to win are mentally challenged. No accurate shots on net during final 20 minutes! Craig Petrino refused to push his heroes too far. Brainless bald bestard. May losing streak extend for a long long time! No better than these a$$hole quitters and their few delusional followers deserve. STENDEK

stendek

November 14th, 2010
8:10 pm

Playoffs? Check with Jim Mora Sr on that. What a bad joke! STENDEK

stendek

November 14th, 2010
8:12 pm

Thrashers just alienated their two remaining fans. Hear there is a solid hockey fan base in Hamilton! Listening quitters? STENDEK

stendek

November 14th, 2010
8:17 pm

Can Thrasher apologists handle truth? Here it is. Crapitals went into cruise mode after lead swelled to two goals. Once Thrashers tied score the home team knew no other Thrasher goals were forthcoming. Just a matter of waiting for soft goal to go in. Strategy successful. That is the truth. Either believe it or get screwed! Makes no difference to me. I truly hate these bestards! STENDEK

Curly

November 14th, 2010
8:43 pm

Good effort by the Thrashers again tonight. I can handle a loss to the President’s trophy winner at home as long as the Thrashers played to win. Much better than what we have seen the past few years. Mason play was poor tonight. OP looked pretty good again.

Brendan – to answer your question – The Thrashers are actually a little better than I thought they would be at this point in the season. I had them pegged for a couple games below .500.

Smoothie

November 14th, 2010
9:03 pm

stendek – get your facts right buddy, Eager choked that game away by a) failing to support Burmistrov along the wall in the offensive zone before losing possession, b) making an unnecessary backhand pass (why so cute?) in the NZ to give the Caps possession and putting the rest of the players on their heels and c) by screening Pavelec by basically coasting in front of Erskine rather than use his stick to try to block the shot (in essence Pavs couldn’t see the origination of the puck on the shot). So before you put this amazing choke job on Pavelec, at least know what the hell you are talking about first!! Pavelec kept us in this game and gave these chumps a chance to win.

When are we gonna ban this clown? Such a pleasure to come to this once fun blog to commiserate with like-minded fans only to have to sift through tons of garbage and toxic dumps of derision from a deranged fool who thinks he’s the only one who knows anything about hockey and playing the game the right way. Piss off stendick!

stendek

November 14th, 2010
9:33 pm

See you are overjoyed with yet another moral victory Smoothie! You are not a true hockey fan. No accountability no change. Glad you apprteciate mediocrity. Also hate braindead morons like you! Do not like bullshet you spout but I am not crying like baby to have you banned. Grow up baby! STENDEK BTW – Screw you!

Hockey Biltong

November 14th, 2010
9:36 pm

Back on the meds….. Highs too high, lows too low!!!!

Smoothie

November 14th, 2010
9:41 pm

When was the last time you went to a game you screwjob?? Kiss my a$$ stendek, I support this team quite well thank you. And believe me, I’m no apologist. I want some repercussions from this two-game disaster over the weekend and 1 – 4 – 1 stretch. The Caps are charlatans with a sloppy, overrated defense and we failed to keep the pressure on them in the 3rd. We should have been playing with nothing to lose, but they played too conservatively and let the Caps dictate. But I’m not going to put this loss on Pavelec. He’s been our best player (outside of Ladd, Buff & Enstrom) since he’s returned from his “illness”. At any rate, I appreciate your passion, but your incessant whiny tirades laced with disguised profanity (real mature jackleg) is driving away the regular bloggers and certainly not inviting newcomers from joining the fray. It sucks to be a Thrashers’ fan, we get it. We’ve all been torturing ourselves for years, but can you just take it down a freakin’ notch? Christ!

stendek

November 14th, 2010
10:04 pm

Forgive me Rev Smoothie. Thrashers are good. Fans are sweethearts. All is right with world. Losing streak okay too. Guys are trying. God bless. Amen. STENDEK

stendek

November 14th, 2010
10:10 pm

This was posted PRIOR to third period Rev Smoothie. Forgive me for knowing Thrashers better than you ever will. Be awaiting your next stern sermon. Blessed be…

Look for Pavs to make several magical saves in third period but allow winner on whiff job. Believe Thrasher offense is through. Fans here will cry moral victory. In reality it will be no points. Again! With losing streak intact. STENDEK

Don Rickles

November 14th, 2010
10:18 pm

If there was a special olympics for bloggers, stendek would come in last.

stendek

November 14th, 2010
10:28 pm

For Hockey Biltong and Rev Smoothie…

From the mouth of Craig Petrino himself:

“We (must not mean Thrashers) talk so often about those neutral zone turnovers (must because you losers do em so well), dumping (what team should be) the puck in the middle (prime scoring area for opposition), especially on our backhand (any damn hand moron), It’s become a focus (glad to hear and see it bonehead). We (poker playing buddies perhaps) talk a lot about it (sh at front I suppose). The players (term used laughingly) talk a lot about it (sex with hookers maybe). Every once in a while it raises its ugly head (how about several times per game jerkoff).”

Brainless baldheaded buffoon! STENDEK

Red Light

November 14th, 2010
10:56 pm

Pavs is 9th in the NHL in save percentage and 12th in goals against average, while that’s not going to win you a Cup, he is playing with more confidence and that’s a good sign. He was partially screened on Erskine’s goal but I am sure he will tell you that giving up a goal from the blue line isn’t acceptable. I’m not making excuses for him, because he should have had Malkin’s first goal that went through the wickets last night, but the other four this weekend, no chance!

And I do agree on one particular item, that moral victories for a team in its 11th season should not be a measuring stick. Yes, they played well at times this weekend, but big deal, because they came away with zero points.

stendek, I fully realize who you do not like on this team, but I’d like to hear your perspective on what players you do feel this team can win with — both short and long term — and if you could add one player to the roster (I realize it will take more than one) that could make an immediate impact who would it be?

Sage of Bluesland

November 14th, 2010
11:25 pm

Don’t fret, folks…We’re only on our third “Five-Year Plan” now…It takes time.

Only the “True-Blue” sheep (like Smoothie) left to defend the indefensible.

Keep bewieving, clown…I think of you and just laugh…All of the ignorance you spout is truly entertaining!

Hanson Brothers

November 14th, 2010
11:34 pm

The season is now on the line for the Thrashers. They have a six game home stand and won’t have another one close to this long the rest of the season. If they can find a way to secure 10 of 12 points they will set themselves up for a playoff spot but if they struggle with six points or less it is improbable that they will recover. I know it sounds a little panicky to say the season is on the line before the new year, but points now are worth the same as points in April. There are no back to backs during this stand so I would not be surprised to see Pavs in goal for all six games unless he struggles.

Smoothie

November 14th, 2010
11:35 pm

Hey SOB, hope you’re having LOADS of fun with your butt buddy stendek. Keep spouting your meaningless bluster and perhaps you and stendek can help each other fill the immense holes (in your pants!) in your lives that seem to be causing you such pain. Thanks for checking in with us and preaching to the choir numbnuts. You do it oh so well.

Brendan

November 14th, 2010
11:48 pm

The Atlanta Thrashers have paid for a 29th or 30th place finish this season. Do I really need to provide a link to capgeek.com for the salary figures? Therefore, barring overachievement, the Thrashers should be reasonably expected to lose most of their games. Thank you, ownership that spends what pittance they have in terms of capital on the Atlanta Hawks (JJ, Horford, etc.) instead of the Thrashers.

I don’t like when the Thrashers lose games. I don’t like an ownership that does not care about hockey. I don’t like 10 previous seasons of no accountability for results. I don’t like the fact that the organization has not properly grown the sport within the region. I don’t like to tell people, “We used to sellout Philips Arena 38 times out of 41 home games, in our Inaugural Season,” because it rather demonstrably shows what ownership/management failures have occurred here. Things are what they are. I’m pleasantly surprised that the Thrashers can produce competitive games, given their cap limitations, compared to what most other teams have, in terms of a budget, and accountability within their organizations, and commitment towards winning. I didn’t expect 17-points in 18 games, based on training camp and preseason. So, in my view, the coaching staff and players have overachieved thus far. I’m happy for the success they’ve had. But, as a fan, I want to see wins. What fan wouldn’t? One day, we’ll have the kind of ownership that doesn’t have to resort to statements like, “moving in the right direction,” “incremental progress,” bluster about playoffs via the GM, and really ridiculous advertising strategies.

To Sage of Bluesland, I would say that the absence of a Tier I Superstar, or Superstars, plural, hasn’t gone unnoticed by the Atlanta hockey-going community. Sage loves to talk about boycott of the product. Just look at the attendance figures. They aren’t even close to what “lame duck Kovalchuk” games were producing. The announce crew can crow all they’d like about 14,000 to 16,000 at the Bulb, on Saturday. That’s the Penguins, a premier team, who drew a substantial amount of native Pennsylvanians (and bandwagon/Crosby-Malkin fans) to downtown, to cheer on their their hometown team, on a weekend night.

Brendan

November 14th, 2010
11:51 pm

Trixie, I’m in SPAM filters again.

Acer

November 15th, 2010
5:41 am

I’m trying to be patient with team this season, until game #25. Still, a few warnings signs pop up. Many things changed over the summer, yet the losing culture doesn’t leave Atlanta. I’ve seen some overall improvement but other chronic issues remain: unstable goaltending, a good offense, a mediocre/ bad D.

You have a lot of fans who have their “blame” sight set on the goalie(s), Zach or the defense. I think that a larger numbers of Thrasher supporters understand (small crowds at PA) who is responsible for the losing culture. And, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to constantly blame the team owners and Don Waddell. Only a removal of ALL of them will result in the much needed change of culture. WCS: A move away from Atlanta and the region.

jimbo

November 15th, 2010
6:57 am

While we’ve got better talent and are playing better, the end result when we play the elite teams is still a LOSS. Ramsey bemoans neutral ice turnovers. For cryin out loud, come up with a better zone type trap when we need to slow down a high flying team like the Caps. Where in the world is the supposedly defensive genius Torchetti? Team is fun to watch but still very frustrating in the 3rd,

OmniFan

November 15th, 2010
7:38 am

OK-let’s us sheep teach the owners a lesson. Let’s boycott the team and its advertisers. Lets erase the losing culture by getting them out of Atlanta. Life will be great then, won’t it?
No losing Thrashers to moan about. No downtown Atlanta traffic to fight to get to games since there won’t be any games. No weak radio reception OTP since our radio reception from Hamilton/Quebec/Winnipeg is nonexistent here anyway without the Internet. No subpar play-by-play guys and ignorant color commentators without local broadcasts-we would step up to Don Cherry quality pundits-if we can get the broadcasts at all. No lame between period interviews without NHL channel or Centre Ice subscriptions either. Well, at least we’d have the Glads to cheer for- and for how long would they survive? And once the Glads wither away, how long will youth hockey last here?
I remember the desolation that was Atlanta hockey after we lost the Flames-looked like the opening scenes of Alexander Nevsky. Missing the primes of Gretzky, Lemieux, Messier etc. I don’t want to go there again. The Braves had a horrible losing culture and zip for attendance. The Falcons had a losing culture and zip for attendance. With the right people in the right places, those franchises turned around very quickly. It can happen here (yes, it might and probably will require an ownership change).
Folks, however bad the Thrashers situation may be, it sure beats doing without NHL hockey in this town. If you love the game, don’t be so hasty as to rush it out of town. You will wait a long time before you have a chance to complain again.

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
7:46 am

The people who expected a complete 180 is now starting to realize such a thing is a lot easier said than done.

I like a lot of whatwe are trying to accomplish on the ice. We’re playing harder than we have in past seasons, but we still have kinks to work out. We played much better these past few games, but we still have work to do. Im excited about Pavelec, because he looks a LOT better now than he did in St. Louis. I am excited about the little things coming together. Players have admitted, on radio and TV, that they’re finally grasping the system.

Good things will happen. We just need to take it to the next level. Just win, and do it against the better teams!

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
8:00 am

I agree with OmniFan. Growing up here without hockey was really sad. I remember some of those hideous Braves games, like the 22-6 or something rout at the hands of the Giants. Then, to see the Flames won the cup after leaving Atlanta? That was hard.

Lets not relive the past. Some folks might want to “boycott” anyway, and thats their prerogative; however, calling people names for not following along in that ideal is childish at best.

Atlanta will get back on track. We can win. We will win. People just need to relax. The ship is on its way to being righted. Enjoy the ride – we have front row seats.

DWTOO

November 15th, 2010
8:14 am

See Rawhide’s rules – Don’t feed the trolls! Everyone falls into the trap now and then, but, I tend to bypass known naysayers. Relpying to them will just aggravate you. This rule does not apply to resident crumudgeon – Strozer (smile R. Stroz just pulling your change).

Some good points by Smoothie – new people to the blog could be influenced by some of the nonsense. Hope they read far enough and are savvy enough to recognize a troll. And OmniFan makes a god point – if the team leaves we’d miss it.

We’re making progress – we’re improving. All we all know the ASG is the worst bunch of clowns ever to own a franchise. They won’t be around forever. At some point we’ll see a change and perhaps a real owner will give Dudley the budget and scouts we need. Until then we’ll just have to muddle through.

Red Light

November 15th, 2010
8:34 am

Some ammunition for a World Be Free vent!

From Bucky Gleason, Buffalo News

Buffalo’s managing partner Larry Quinn has no plans for major changes to his hockey department, such as firing Sabres coach Lindy Ruff or General Manager Darcy Regier. Quinn believed the Sabres could turn around their slow start with their current roster, but he also made it clear they wouldn’t sit around if changes were in order.

“We’re not going to fire Lindy,” Quinn said. “Obviously, we’re not where we want to be. The best way to get where we want to be, it’s with Lindy. I don’t think there’s anybody else I would rather have doing that. One of the reasons I went down [to the arena] the other day is to take a temperature of the place. I don’t think Lindy has lost any players or anything like that. We’re not going to fire Lindy.”

And Regier?

“I feel the same way about Darcy,” Quinn said. “You’re going to go through periods like this. The worst thing you can do is point fingers at each other and blame people. Sometimes, things you do don’t work out in the short run. If we have to make changes, we’ll make them. Darcy knows he can do that. In the meantime, Lindy feels he can turn this situation around.”

“I don’t want to take a negative hypothetical,” Quinn said. “Both guys are part of our future. If that changes, they have a say in it also. The last thing we want to do in the second week of November is get all panicky.”

LAC

November 15th, 2010
8:55 am

I agree Standek & Sage & Stroz… Bloggers like this “smoothie” need to go away until THEY understand the facts and accept the fact this team could be MUCH better with a couple trades…

Go away “smoothie” you bring nothing to this discussion.

Viking

November 15th, 2010
9:11 am

LAC, What discussion?

Tom Lysiak

November 15th, 2010
9:40 am

LAC, what trades? Who is coming? Who is going?

R. Stroz

November 15th, 2010
9:51 am

After watching the games this weekend, I think it’s time to put a C on Ladd’s jersey. There were several players that busted their humps consistently. Burmistrov, Little, and Ladd come to mind.

On the other side of the equation, Mason and Bogosian are playing like a big pile of feces.

Most improved player, Pavelec.

waffleboy

November 15th, 2010
9:56 am

Okay guys, let’s all take it down a notch. Remember, it’s just sports, it’s not the Paris Peace Talks for crying out loud.
Sports are here to give us something to root for and root against. Take the good and leave the bad, but don’ try to hang your personal happiness on the success or failure of your favorite team. First, it’s not going to work, you’ll never be truly happy. Second, the lows we’ll always be too low and the nighs will never be high enough.
Do you have your health? Do you have a family that loves you? Do you have a job to help pay the bills? Because millions of Americans have none of these things. I find it a little embarrassing to see posts like this on a weekend where most sports team to took the time out to honor our veterans. You know, those guys dying overseas who have something legitimate to complain about? You guys make me sick. No one has the right to tell someone to leave this board and no one needs to take a friggin hockey discussion to the level of personal attacks. They have no place here.
Let’s try to maintain a level of rational discourse. This goes for the lot of you.

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
9:57 am

Interesting considering I probably propose more trade scenarios than anyone! How about Bogosian for Wheeler you tool? Or is that too complicated for your simple mind?

Bill – stendek-like apology here (like it really matters when the horse is out of the barn) but I figured I’d throw some sand at the resident bullies in the sandbox so the other kids wouldn’t be scared off from playing. Bad enough we gotta deal with this horrible hockey franchise, too bad its crappiness has to bleed into this normally intelligent “discussion” about hockey.

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
10:12 am

Stroz – you forgot Antropov. Other than a few PP goals, he’s been pretty bad. Looks like he needs a lot more rest for his hip. He just seems a step late in the corners and along the boards, and you can tell its a struggle for him to get up ice on the backcheck, sad.

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
10:32 am

If anyone here had Scott Gordon of NYI in your coaches death pool, come and collect your prize. http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/isles-files-1.812028/breaking-scott-gordon-let-go-as-head-coach-1.2462612

stendek

November 15th, 2010
10:40 am

<3 <3 <3 :) :) :) STENDEK

Dandylions

November 15th, 2010
10:51 am

As a long time lurker of this blog I have to agree with Smoothie. Why do you haters even watch the games if it brings you so much pain? After a win it’s “magnificent Mason” and after a loss it’s any childish name you can make up. Just sad that someone’s life is so miserable – have a beer and chill out!

litz

November 15th, 2010
10:58 am

Dandylions – I think it’s the “have a beer” that’s half the trouble …

R. Stroz

November 15th, 2010
11:00 am

WOW, it’s really a Monday.

Smoothie – I honestly think the only reason Antropov isn’t on IR is the need for his salary cap hit to meet the salary floor.

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
11:00 am

have a beer and chill out!

Or an entire case. Pabst is pretty cheap.

Dandylions

November 15th, 2010
11:05 am

Litz, I have found life is much more enjoyable with a cold one!

Flames

November 15th, 2010
11:07 am

WOW- this is a heated blog! OmniFan – you hit the nail on the head with your post. I would rather have a team to cheer for that no team at all. News on Boulton… He possible has a broken thumb. The X-ray showed a crack. He is having another X-ray as we speak. If broken he could be out for 4-6 weeks. It was one hell of a fight…

R. Stroz

November 15th, 2010
11:10 am

If Bolts is out, is Cormier ready?

Flames

November 15th, 2010
11:12 am

R. Stroz- Great question! I’m really not sure if he is or isn’t, was he sent to Chicago to get some games under his belt. I can’t recall…Can anyone answer that. Smoothie- Do you know?

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
11:25 am

Flames – thanks for the report; that’s too bad about Bolts and it turns out it was a pyrrhic “victory”…he pumped up his team, but they couldn’t ride the wave of momentum to a win. Really should have scored on one of those two breakaways after the shorty. Bygones as Brendan likes to say.

As for Corms, I don’t think there has been any report on him other than the fact that he has begun skating again. But C-Viv didn’t seem certain if he was even out of the walking boot despite resuming skating. Apparently the boot is serving as a precautionary device to protect him from reinjury after skating…who knows? But I would imagin he’d have to have a medical rehab stint in Chicago before he suits up for the parent club. I think this could be when we call up Machacek (especially if Modin is gonna miss a couple more games) or even Freddy the Fly since he was a very tough cut at the end of camp.

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
11:25 am

The last thing I heard about Cormier, is that he was skating, but still using the walking boot. I don’t think he’s even had a full practice in yet.

Hate to say it, but I don’t think Cormier is ready. I don’t think the coaching staff wants to push him, either. Call up for Machacek?

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
11:26 am

Smoothie – you beat me by mere seconds! SECONDS! That’s what I get for working, I guess! ;)

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
11:30 am

“Sports are here to give us something to root for and root against. Take the good and leave the bad, but don’ try to hang your personal happiness on the success or failure of your favorite team. First, it’s not going to work, you’ll never be truly happy. Second, the lows we’ll always be too low and the nighs will never be high enough.
Do you have your health? Do you have a family that loves you? Do you have a job to help pay the bills? Because millions of Americans have none of these things. I find it a little embarrassing to see posts like this on a weekend where most sports team to took the time out to honor our veterans. You know, those guys dying overseas who have something legitimate to complain about? You guys make me sick. No one has the right to tell someone to leave this board and no one needs to take a friggin hockey discussion to the level of personal attacks. They have no place here.” – waffleboy

I gotta say that this is perhaps the best post to grace this blog in quite some time. He’s right and I am guilty of such personal attacks. But I’m not sorry. I don’t really take this as seriously as some of you might think. Yeah, I was pissed about HOW we lost last nite, but I think it rankled me more because the effort has been there of late and the rewards are not coming with it. Hopefully they have turned some kind of corner and they will start to reap some just rewards for their hard work. However, they still have several issues to address. As for my comments, I apologize to anyone else (outside of the three yahoos I called out in my posts) for creating the hostile environment that I myself decried. But I’m getting really fed up with seeing the same redundant drivel get posted here ad nauseaum when things don’t go well. I think one bitchy rant per game is sufficient and I’ll go back to ignoring LAC and SOB, who are probably not sorry in the least either.

Joe Friday

November 15th, 2010
11:32 am

Mason reminds me more and more of Moose as time goes by. Stout at first and can steal a game here or there, but has breakdowns after too much work. Pavelec looks to be the #1 now.

This upcoming stretch of games is going to make or break our season. I’m not going to lose sleep over the Pens and Caps games, they have too much offense and we’re still too weak defensively. But this club needs to bank some pts here over the next couple of weeks if they’re to stay in it. I hope that Coach uses these two days off here to work the defensive side hard, scoring is coming, we need to start shutting things down in our end.

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
11:32 am

Alan – c’mon man, you know better than that! Working??! It’s 11:30, isn’t it lunch time for someone where you work!? ;-) Astute hockey minds think alike, and in concert apparently. Just like SOB and LAC.

Ooops, there I go again. Letting the trolls enter my consciousness!

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
11:54 am

Not yet, Smoothie. I typically take my lunch around 12:30pm or so ;)

Relax, and don’t let the comments get to you. Or else, you’ll end up like this: http://tinyurl.com/2dx3mne

Dwayne

November 15th, 2010
12:02 pm

Thrash let some great oppertunities slip past them(mason). Really needed at least 7 point out of the last 6 games, what, we 1-4-1 in the last 6? Can ya really just blame one or two people? Mason and Zach? Where is Kane? Remember, Lits has been out also. no blaming Lits, but u know what i’m saying. Every mistake Atl. makes late in a game seems to bite them on the butt. I do beleive the next step for Kane is the pressbox, maybe a call up is in order. I agree that Ladd should be Captain, someone needs to take charge of player issues, if there are any.

Russian

November 15th, 2010
12:02 pm

Come on guys, STOP Bitching around. We are all Atlanta Fans. I am critical person also, but I like to see TEAM here. We have lot of disscuss here.
Bolt can be out for long time. Who is going to call? – Corms is not ready, but I like to Freddy Fly. He can fly with Burmy and Eager.
Modin is out also and we do not know hoe long. – I like to see Machacek with Antro and Throbon.

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
12:10 pm

I’ll be alright Alan…I actually extracted some degree of perverse satisfaction and humor from the whole thing. Just like most of what I write, my comments were meant to be tinged with some sarcasm. Although I did mean a lot of what I wrote in this case. But I’m not willing to give up on this hockey team yet, or will I ever in all likelihood.

Anyone else think it’s time to sit Antropov for a game or two, or at the least shorten his minutes? Perhaps shorten his minutes to 10 min or so with PP time? He can play on a lower line at home and not get exploited like he does when playing on a less talented line on the road. Call up Machacek and tell him to hit everything in his path and simply play his north / south game driving the net at every opportunity. Perhaps call up Fly as well for some reserve pop off the buffet line if Modin is banged up and needs 2 or 3 games to heal.

Ladd – Pevs – Bergie (ain’t broke so no need to tweak)

Kaner – Lits – Macho (Kane & Lits are showing some chemistry)

Antro/Modin – Burma – Thorbs (Burmy & Thorbs seem a good fit)

Eager – Slates – Stew/Fly (Eager provides muscle if Fly is buzzin)

Whatta y’all think? Corms ain’t ready, Modin could need rest and Antro probably needs less ice time or extended rest as well.

joedaiceman

November 15th, 2010
12:27 pm

I was at the game and other than the first 10 minutes, the Thrashers were completely outclassed. I pine for the return of the Thrashers that beat the Caps on opening day. The team that showed up then was world class. What I saw on the ice on Saturday was a mediocre team.

Red Light

November 15th, 2010
12:34 pm

Interesting isn’t it, that the Thrashers best line night-in, night-out, is the one that Ladd is on? Sure, he’s had a few rough games, but he is the leader (with or without the “C”) in my opinion.

But, the Thrashers don’t have a “top” line yet, and they need one desperately. Why? Because if the opponent needs to focus on that line, putting their best d-men and forwards out against it, then theoretically, the other lines should benefit.

For the purpose of straying from the tete a tete that has broken out here, give us the three guys you would use as your top line that would be the most difficult for opponents to defend. Hint: The line doesn’t have to be your three top snipers, but the three guys who would be most difficult to deal with!

Obviously, one of my top three is Ladd! I’ll give you the other two later.

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
12:35 pm

Where is Kane?

Workin his butt off. He’s not doing the right things (really, the name is Evander Kane, not Evander Kovalchukj), but at least he’s making an effort.

I was at the game and other than the first 10 minutes, the Thrashers were completely outclassed

You must have been getting popcorn and drinks when the Capitals went on the penalty kill on their own power play. The majority of that Caps power play in the second period was played in their own zone, as Atlanta stripped Ovechkin of the puck multiple times, and returned it for shorthanded bids, or to just lollygag around and burn time off the clock.

Atlanta has a lot of work to do, but they certainly were not “outclassed” for the majority of the game.

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
12:39 pm

Red Light: I’ll play.

Ladd-Burmistrov-Bergfors

Sage of Bluesland

November 15th, 2010
12:39 pm

“…with memories of how you ruined a blog, a man (Waddell) and an entire franchise.”

Wow, that’s quite a stretch for the biggest drama-queen/clown on here…I (or we) “ruined a man”, that individual being Don Waddell?

Wow. For once, I’m near speechless…

Whoever said ownership needs to change gets the gold-star…The rest is just “putting-the-Smoothie” on the deck chairs of the HMS Titanic….

This ownership group needs some more “encouragement”, if you will. Don’t start subsidizing their incompetence now, for Heaven’s sake!

World Be Free

November 15th, 2010
12:55 pm

I haven’t read all of today’s posts, but they are predicably negative. We just played back to back gaes against 23 good teams and lost both in the 3rd period. I am concerned over our ability to close the deal in the 3rd and the play of a few players. Just wonder where this team would be if Dudley had not pulled off the 2 trades with Chicago this summer.

FYI-could be worse, the Leafs’ fans are booing their new captain Dion Phaneuf. Tronna is in a free fall with no first or 2nd round picks next summer. Toss in no cap space, no real prospects to trade or UFAs available to sign. Another long winter in Toronto.

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
12:56 pm

The fact that you can’t see the sarcasm dripping off that statement SOB just goes to show what a stooge you really are. Moving on…

R/L – I’d have to go with Ladd-Little-Kane

I realize Kane has had some issues with his overall game, but I think he’d thrive alongside these two as both Laddy & Lits are not afraid to mix it up in the corners. I think Kane would follow suit and exert the same forechecking effort of the other two, but his lethal wrist-shot would benefit more from the work of the other two as he tends to get to the shooting areas more often than say Bergfors or Peverley. I love Pevs, but he’s at best a 2nd liner. 2nd line should probably be the following: Bergie-Pevs-Byfuglien (but that’s a whole ‘nutha blog!).

I think its time to scrap the “he must be a lefty to play LW” line of thinking and reward effort and production with minutes. Not to say the bottom two lines shouldn’t get minutes, but I’d rather see a distribution along the lines of 18-16-14-12 as opposed to 16-15-15-14 although I think we’re seeing the bottom lines play much less of late.

World Be Free

November 15th, 2010
12:56 pm

That’s 2 good teams not 23

sisu

November 15th, 2010
12:58 pm

I wonder when it will be announced that Boulton suffered a concussion? It sure looked like he did after the fight…Mason has folded the last few games, he needs to pick it up.

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
12:58 pm

World – you really should go back and read, quite entertaining I reckon. :cool: Just another day at the office poking fun at our resident bi-polar fanatic, beat-writer bully and legend-in-his-own-mind. I think you can put the name with the descriptions. What fun!

stendek

November 15th, 2010
1:01 pm

DWTOO

November 15th, 2010
1:10 pm

Smoothie – everyone succumbs to the negativity at some point. I just try to keep the mantra “don’t feed the trolls”. They thrive on bringing someone down with them. There are certain posters who I just pass right thru.

Duds should be calling Ladd’s agent right now and starting negotiations. Sign him long term and give hime the “C”. As for R/L’s top line I’d have Ladd, Burmi, and Bergie. Think Burmi can take care of himself and these guys all hustle.

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
1:13 pm

In today’s ‘discussion’ so far, here’s something else that has seemingly slid under the radar in these parts:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Have-Savard-emails-exposed-NHL-s-Colin-Campbell-?urn=nhl-285531

very interesting reading.

R. Stroz

November 15th, 2010
1:28 pm

Let Boris nut punch Colin Campbell, then fire him.

Midfield

November 15th, 2010
1:30 pm

Not impressed with Kane as of late. If he thinks that he can play on his talent, forget it – not nearly enough to free skate like his white twin Patrick in Chicago, for example. Evander is a skilled forechecking and backchecking forward, and his key to being productive is to concentrate on doing little things right.

Rawhide

November 15th, 2010
1:34 pm

Wow…I take one evening off to spend with my family before having to fly to Miami on business this morning and…looking around at the cyber-mess on the blog…THIS!

Folks…It was a game. One game in an 82 game season. I hate it when my team loses too, but come on. If your team losing a close game is gonna send one or two of you off the deep end, then may I suggest stamp collecting or maybe chrocet as a hobby?

…sigh…

I will try and have a new blog later tonight after I get to the hotel…

Brendan – Your 11:48 pm was freed from Blog Puratory.

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
1:35 pm

Good stuff there Alan…Jack Edwards nailed it last year. Regardless of his disgusting biases and favoritism, he sucks at his job as “arbiter of justice” for the NHL. He needs to go.

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
1:52 pm

Smoothie, Stroz: Here’s more. NSFW for language (unless your company, like mine, doesn’t really care): http://deadspin.com/5690212/weekend-winner-the-nhls-petty-tyrant

Cornbread

November 15th, 2010
2:05 pm

Atlanta has played 3 very good games in a row, 2 of which were against elite teams and the other a defensive shut-down team. They are starting to get it. Unfortunately they may not have gotten the results they deserved.

This team knows they are good and capable of putting it together against the top teams in the league. Even in their loss against the Sens I saw something in them I have not seen from the individual Thrasher teams of the past, they were pissed! More importantly, they knew they were capable of playing better and got beat bad by a lesser team. Still, they kept coming instead of packing it in for the night. t was the same Saturday and Sunday.

They came back last night on the road against a team many have predicted to win the Cup. They made some bad plays and they know it. Eager’s turnover that led to the winning goal was uncharachteristic and you could see it bothered him. Still, the players on the bench were supporting him.

They are young and talented and very close to putting it all together. I believe that and I know the players and Coach Ramsay do as well. They have what it takes to go on an extended winning streak. Exciting time to be watching the Thrashers.

World Be Free

November 15th, 2010
2:17 pm

Smoothie-saw his postings, he only comes out when things go wrong.

Some folks take this stuff too personally- as Don Henley once said- “you put it all behind, cause life goes on, you keeping that anger, it will eat you up inside”. Or something like that.

Moving forward-and remember it could be worse, you could be a Toronto Maple Leaf player dealing with their Shiite fans. You wonder how Colby likes Tronna now?

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
2:22 pm

“You wonder how Colby likes Tronna now?”

Cuts like a knife, but it don’t feel ‘right! Nana na na na na nana…To paraphrase another 80’s singing sensation (from Canadia!).

What more can we do for Toronto? We gave up our best grinder (lol) and best sniper (C-Mac) just so they could have a chance!!

Zombie Steve

November 15th, 2010
2:24 pm

Everytime I read a Stendek post, I hear the voice of Gilbert Gottfried in my head.

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
2:29 pm

Here’s an email from Campbell that even involves our own beloved Thrashers. Check this shet out:

Re: Penalty
11/#/2007 10:48 PM
Colin Campbell to Stephen Walkom

Did you find out anything? It was [another referee] that made the call. Keep Warren and gas this ____head. 90 seconds left and he calls a weak penalty…tripping. Makes me sick. If I was at the game I would have had to fine me.

The game? http://www.nhl.com/ice/recap.htm?id=2007020252

No wonder we get so many “two minute minor for playing hockey in the south” penalties.

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
2:47 pm

Alan – interesting indeed, but that date doesn’t seem right. It says 4/8/2009 and that we have Hossa. Wasn’t Hossa traded in winter of 2008? That game in reference must’ve been 11/xx/2007??

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
2:54 pm

Smoothie, if I recall correctly, the date at the top of the NHL page is the date the NHL.com site was re-designed. The date of the referenced game is 13 November 2007. For a better look, see here: http://espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=271113028

Tony C.

November 15th, 2010
2:57 pm

Yeah this Campbell thing is very…I won’t say enlightening, because it doesn’t really something new-just kind of validates what I (and most other fans that I know of) think of Campbell’s uneven (to be VERY kind) judgement.

As a side note (and please realize I’m not saying ALL here); kind of funny how Canadians like to portray themselves as even-keeled and accepting but yet are very petty/closeminded when it comes to hockey (case in point: Colby Armstrong-supposedly the consummate “hustle” player but I’ll kiss your @ss on national T.V. if you can show me more than 3 games during his time here where he did in fact, hustle-Then there’s countless guys who get painted with the tar brush at a young age and NEVER get the chance to live it down-or the decades long [and wrong] view that all Russians/Europeans are “soft” ).

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
3:00 pm

Okay, that certainly makes more sense.

I wonder when Campbell is going to start hating on Burmistrov and accusing him of diving all the time to draw all those penalties?

Tony C.

November 15th, 2010
3:01 pm

here’s a cached list of the emails from Campbell…The server is choking on the demand, but there are a few dealing with Le Thrash specifically that I’m anxious to read.

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
3:13 pm

Smoothie, when was the last time Burmi drew a penalty? ;)

Tony, I’m estatic to see the site is back up! I caught a glimpse of it when I got to work this morning, then it went 403. I figured lawyers got to it. I guess they didn’t!

Everyone, TSN is now running with the story. For as bad as the Toronto Sports Network can be at times, a story of this magnitude is only carried if there’s fire somewhere. Well, I think it’s safe to say that fire has been spotted. It doesn’t tell us anything new, except for Bill Daly and Colin Campbell’s own comments regarding the emails.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=341367

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
3:13 pm

My mistake, it’s just a google web cache. Still, I’m happy to see it got cached before it went down, at least.

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
3:23 pm

Yeah Alan, that Burmy kid NEEVVERRRR draws a penalty. What a waste of a pick?! ;-)

Nate

November 15th, 2010
3:25 pm

I think a lot of us (including myself) need to come full circle. Before the start of the season, most felt the Thrashers would fall just short of the playoffs. Others felt they might sneak into the 8th spot. Very few thought the season would go better than that. The team got off to a better than predicted start so expectations have grown, but I think it’s time we all come back down to reality.

I doubt ownership truly believes any year to be “the year” for a turnaround. But given the comments in the off-season, I think the 2011-2012 season was insinuated to be that year. Not this year. This team has too many moving parts to come around in time to bank enough points to make the playoffs. Maaaaybe the 8th seed if some other teams continue to falter around them.

Everybody just needs to relax and realize this team is succeeding/failing at the rate it was designed to do so.

World Be Free

November 15th, 2010
4:06 pm

Smoothie-I hope it is another 43 years before Tronna wins a Cup.

I feel old-Gilbert Perrault, my childhood hero turned 60 this weekend. The guy had the talent, if he old had a BIG heart!

DWTOO

November 15th, 2010
4:20 pm

You’re right about feeling old – The French Connection – Rick Martin and Rene Robert on the wings and Perrault in the middle. Right?

Spud Webb

November 15th, 2010
4:42 pm

WOW it’s the end of the world, it’s the end of the world!! RUUUUUUUUUN. woooooooo!!!
Stendek…go to the falcons blog, they’ll get a kick out of you there! Not sure why you watch the Thrashers, do you like living in misery? Don’t answer that, I think we all know the answer!! ahhahaha
Red Light, NICE work by your gang, uh, team last night!!! Avery at his best huh???

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
4:45 pm

Wow GP is 60?? Damn, I know I’m a bit younger but it still doesnt seem that long since my first poster and jersey were to honor the savvy and skilled Gilbert Perreault!

cousin Eddie

November 15th, 2010
5:03 pm

Yeah, I’m going to have say that’s why I don’t like the color yellow! Geesh! The sky is not falling, it open up, hence the rain! Duhhh!

Red Light

November 15th, 2010
5:14 pm

Spud Webb: Avery was at his worst again. Up 5-2, what was the sense in all that?

Brendan: To answer your question about McPhee, I said this at the trade deadline…

“You tell me who the best GM in the game is? I say McPhee!…”

McPhee fully understands what he is up against in terms of Cap space (currently 14th in the NHL this season) and has a great feel for personnel (the notable exception: Michael Nylander). He let Huet walk after dealing for him at the deadline in 2008, and we know where he is today (Swiss League).

In 2004, he dumped salaries of Gonchar, Jagr, Bondra, Nylander, Grier, Lang and Konowalchuk and got Shaone Morrisson, Jeff Schultz, Mike, Green, Tomas Fleischmann and Brooks Laich as a result.

He has UFAs to be Fleischmann, Semin, Laich and Erskine to sign but has only $37.1 million committed next season and $25.6 in 2012-13 so far. In other words, he hasn’t created the same type of problems that Chicago, Philly, Vancouver and New Jersey have, even with locking up Ovechkin and Backstrom through 2021 and 2020, respectively.

Caps’ record with McPhee as GM from 1997 to 2010
1,002 games • 471 wins • 389 losses • 69 ties • 73 OTLs

All that said, the Caps haven’t won diddly yet, but the building is “full” and that team has become an annoyance to the rest of the Southeast Division! He might not be in Ken Holland territory just yet, but he is easily one of the best.

Red Light

November 15th, 2010
5:38 pm

At this point in time, without the availability of a top line center, I’d have to use… • Ladd • Peverley • Bergfors as my top line.

With Modin, Cormier and Boulton injured, it’s time to give Riley Holzapfel a look. The team needs someone to play center, in my opinion, as I still believe that Little is more effective on the wing. But, I’ll bet they’ll recall Machacek or Dawes for Wednesday’s game.

Brendan

November 15th, 2010
6:45 pm

Red Light, “thank you.” And I completely agree. That’s why, I was surprised about the negative comments by posters following the loss AT WASHINGTON. That’s a great club. With a standout GM. With a budget substantively larger than ours.

I can understand the whining and moaning and groaning … after a 3-0 “watching the grass grow” loss at the Bulb to the Columbus Blue Jackets. There’s a team that is, essentially, in the same boat/history as the Thrashers. But if Atlanta loses to the 2009 Stanley Cup Champions and the 3-time defending SE Division champions and defending President’s Trophy winning Capitals, I don’t blow a gasket. I’m not happy about it. But I keep some form of ‘perspective’ about the loss.

If we get B-slapped by the Islanders, you might see me here … getting ‘negative.’ Atlanta should be better than the Islanders, for example. I commend McPhee on his years of experience and overall success. To me, one of his coups was re-inking Ovechkin to a 13-year deal. I mean, way to completely side-step that issue. The Capitals KNEW they needed to draft him 1st overall in 2004. They did. And Ovie signed with them. The Capitals KNEW they needed to lock him up, quickly, or he’d be gone, if the franchise stumbled, as his UFA years approached. McPhee has placed many 1st round picks into his lineup, often while overlooked by the hockey media. The Capitals franchise has never won a Stanley Cup. I have to believe that they will win one, relatively soon. Maybe, even this year. We’ll have to see.

Red Light, not to put you on the spot, but if you had to project a Stanley Cup Finals, do you see Washington as the Eastern Conference representative? And if so, who do you like out West, and as the Eastern CF opponent for Washington?

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
6:55 pm

Red Light, I guess two out of three isn’t bad, for me. Peverley is another good choice at center for that line, and I think I would trust him more with a D-zone face off.

Smoothie

November 15th, 2010
6:56 pm

Brendan – it wasn’t who we lost to, it was the manner in which we choked it away. We already have 1 win under our belts vs WSH and that confidence should have been augmented by their rally in the earlier road contest to tie and force OT. Add to that fact that Wash’s blueline is FAR from top notch.
Last nite the boys rallied admirably in the 2nd period. Both teams had traveled and both teams benefitted from some dumb and good puck luck. There was NO reason why we shouldn’t have come out in the 3rd and tried to assert our F/C aggressively and perhaps even a bit recklessly (safe is death aint it?).

You can’t beat WSH by sitting back on your heels and letting them dictate. You can’t put a rookie C out there in the off zone to take a F/O against Steckel, the BEST draw-man in the NHL!! Pretty much everything we did in that 3rd period was wrong and the approach made no sense considering how we played in the previous 8 periods. They choked on fear. I want them to stare fear down and go down swinging at least. All I ask.

Red Light

November 15th, 2010
7:11 pm

As I posted just prior to the season, I like Boston in the East and LA in the West. Haven’t changed that opinion at all.

Smoothie: There are guys on this team that don’t know what it is to pay the price late in the game, at least not in November! They got outhit two games in a row, and no one (Eager) went down to block Erskine’s game winner.

stendek

November 15th, 2010
7:14 pm

Smoothie is an adversary but he fights the good fight. I appreciate that. I respect many others who think I am full of, uh, something with an unpleasant odor. One writer went over the edge. Family should never be attacked. There is a line of decency which should never be crossed. Name of guy is Alex. On Chris site. Hurt me deeply. Yes, I do have feelings. My response was:

I and most Americans in my financial distress are outraged by your post Alexander! You sound like a damn foreigner anyway. So screw you! Professional athletes are vastly overpaid. I have no say whatsoever in regard to what Thrasher management does or does not dole out to players! I think the uncaring sons of betches should be making minimum wage. Would still be overpaid for performance! My wife and I are forced to raise a child, we are both disabled, in an entire month on what one Thrasher player, according to what was written, draws in one minute. ONE MINUTE! The present corrupt Barack Hussein Obama administration has cut food stamps and continues to do so. I personally feel checks are next. Only one disability check per household! Fed gov told us increases were frozen because inflation did not go up. Uh huh! So never tell me about financial hardships of professional athletes a$$hole. Being a professional athlete is a privilege not a guaranteed right! Where else is one rewarded for continued failure? I do not know from whence cesspool country you came but go the Hell back there! As for not addressing me directly again I thank the good Lord for all blessings big and small. You can just drop dead Thrash Head! Damn censorship advocate. You jerks make Smoothie seem like a saint! STENDEK

Thrashers27

November 15th, 2010
7:29 pm

So, anybody know what Boris’ status is? I get it that his time in Atlanta is all but over, but since he was called back up and nobody claimed him off of waivers, wouldn’t he count as a body on our roster? Seems to me he’s in a state of limbo.

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
7:54 pm

The Colin Campbell mess keeps on getting messier. Check this out

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/14/tsa-ejects-oceanside-man-airport-refusing-security/

Key line from this one? As one referee said today, “I can’t believe it took so long for this to come out.”

Boom goes the dynamite!

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
7:55 pm

That was the wrong link, because I apparently didn’t copy the right one. See this link instead.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/elliottefriedman/2010/11/campbell-emails-puts-objectivity-into-question.html

dwayne

November 15th, 2010
7:58 pm

Washington will not win the cup, this year or any other year. No defense, suspect goaltending. I do not care about the fire power they have. I have been watching this game seriously for 10 years, watched the Flyers before that off on on, but mostly Thrashers, so maybe thats not a good measuring stick, but most Stanley cup winners in recent year ride a goaltender that gets hot at the right time. Can you see either Noyvirth or Varlymov doing that? Not thru 4 series.

dwayne

November 15th, 2010
8:06 pm

I haven’t looked up any stats, so I don’t have proof to back up my statements, it was just an opinion. So, if you’ll excuse me now, I’m just going home, grab a shower and shave, give the wife a little pickle-tickle, and I’m on my way.

Rawhide

November 15th, 2010
9:16 pm

Hello gang…sorry I have no blog entry tonight. Been a busy day of travel, meetings, balh, blah, blah….

I just had enough time to log on and take care of some “blog admin business”…not the type of stuff I wanted to have to do tonight, but….

Anyway…keep up the discussion, keep it within the realm of decency and I’ll catch up with ya tomorrow.

Alan R.

November 15th, 2010
9:28 pm

I’m interested in your thoughts on the Colin Campbell thing, Bill. Thoughts?

Hokie P. Clisters

November 15th, 2010
10:17 pm

Mr. Rawhides, I know you want to put up a new blog since this one’s gone haywire. Your exactly right………its not time to go off the deepend yet……………
Regarding a new bog – What about a picture with the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse? You can have Sage and Stendek on the ends with Pavs and Mason (or as Stendek says “Marshmallow”) in the middle. OK, maybe that’s a little too much………………..looks like I’m going off the deepend.

World Be Free

November 16th, 2010
7:43 am

DWTOO-yup, that was them. The line was unstoppable, 3 guys that could shoot the puck, hit and take a hit to make a play-Robert could fight too. Just goes to show you the value of good drafting (Perreault and Martin) and great trades (Eddie Shack for Rene Robert). Though I have to say that I did miss Eddie shack, THE most entertaining hockey player I have ever seen. What a nut.

Ay Stendek had to throw in a political statement. That stuff catches on with others, dude.

A27-Boris is probably working a McDonalds somewhere, not sure who would want him now but he is certain to eventually get another chance somewhere. I give Dudley credit for making the Boris evaluation, determination and cutting the guy loose.

Acer

November 16th, 2010
8:28 am

Dwayne, I think that you are correct about Washington. The lack of experience of all three Caps goalies will be a problems in the playoffs. McPhee needs to acquire an experience goalie á la Roloson for the playoffs.
Also, I don’t like the group in front of three G’s. Judging by 2010, I’m not getting my hopes up that D.C. will try to add solid defensive Dman at the TDL. Acquiring the likes of Jurcina and Corvo had disaster (lack of success) written over them. How can a (IMO) defensively challenged franchise like the Caps acquire Corvo (a well-know offensive Dman with a questionable defensive game?) IMO. that move alone is one of the reasons why McPhee isn’t a Top3 GM.
Why did McPhee re-sign Fleischman after he disappeared in the playoffs? Semin is another questionable playoff performer.

Based on this points, I don’t see Washington moving past round three.

P.S. I agree with RL on the Bruins being a favorite for the Cup.

Spud Webb

November 16th, 2010
9:31 am

Lol, I hate Boston, but they do look good.
Rusk on their bench? Guy played lights out last year (I thought). He’s gotta be cheap also? They letting tiiiiiiiiiiimy play out the contract and holding Rusk as the future? Anyone know? RL?

Red Light

November 16th, 2010
10:00 am

Rask is signed for this season and next at $1.25 million and then becomes a free agent. Thomas has this and two more seasons at $5 million per.

Red Light

November 16th, 2010
10:01 am

Should have said restricted free agent for Rask.

Red Light

November 16th, 2010
10:10 am

Acer:

Prior to last year’s playoffs, Semin had played in 21 career playoff games and and had 8 goals and 14 assists. You can’t judge a guy on one seven-game series and Fleischmann had his best regular season ever last year with 23 goals and 28 assists.

Corvo was acquired for soon to be UFA Brian Pothier (now in Switzerland), Oskar Osala (3 NHL games) and a 2nd-round selection in 2011. What was the harm in that rental?

Red Light

November 16th, 2010
10:28 am

World Be Free:

It appears Vanek has awakened from his early season slumber. Maybe he was too worried about his wife’s pregnancy with twins, who were born yesterday? Anyhow, he has two goals and four assists in his last 4 games and is +5 in those games. Say what you want about Pominville, but the Sabres has nine points in his last five games (which is concurrent with Stafford’s absence) and are 4-2-1 since Pommy’s return. Coincidence?

In case you missed it, Montador is now at a league best +13.

Acer

November 16th, 2010
10:36 am

RL, which Semin will it be? The 2008 & 2009 version or the 2010 version? That’s why I said questionable above. Solid regular season performances don’t automatically translated into solid playoff performances. The Corvo deal wasn’t my point of criticism.

Joe Friday

November 16th, 2010
10:57 am

“The lack of experience of all three Caps goalies will be a problems in the playoffs. McPhee needs to acquire an experience goalie á la Roloson for the playoffs.”

I don’t know, the Caps goaltending may turn out ok. Any one of them can get hot and the club can ride them in the playoffs. Look what Philly did last year with their goalies, who thought they’d go as deep as they did? Their goaltending didn’t really bite them in the butt until the Cup winning goal, not bad for the poor schlubs they had in net.

Red Light

November 16th, 2010
11:04 am

And, lets not forget Niemi, who proved just good enough last year to win the Cup. It’s not the goaltending that’s the problem in Washington, it’s the Caps’ penchant for offense!

litz

November 16th, 2010
11:06 am

I thought the word on Valabik was he was going to stay in Chicago and play with the Wolves (at least for the time being) …

Smoothie

November 16th, 2010
11:08 am

Yes indeed litz, Boris has been laboring as a Wolf in Czech’s clothing as a member of the Chicago Wolves.

Joe Friday

November 16th, 2010
11:15 am

Here come the giveaways, but I’m happy that they’re trying to get people in the house, please take advantage if you can of the Thrashers Facebook offer for free tickets ($.50 fee per ticket) to tomorrow night’s game:
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0E004506F556BA2C?did=facebook&camefrom=NHLTHRASHERS_1011_FB

World Be Free

November 16th, 2010
11:31 am

Red Light, Pominville makes the Sabres special teams better on both sides. Vanek and the entire team have picked it up, especially at home. Sabres FINALLY won a home game over Washington Saturday and Vancouver last night. Montidor’s low point this season was getting smoked by Big Buff on his Bobby Orr rush in OT a few weeks back. Steve is a steady defenseman, kinda like me back in the day.

J-F/Neuwirth seems to be edging closer to the #1 in Washigton, though I can’t say I am too confident in any of those guys to steal a game. Washington has the luxury of having an offense which hides their OK defense and “C” goaltending. I have a feeling they will go out and get a quality #1 stopper in the offseason, especially if they do not make it to at least the conference finals this year. The window of oppotunity to win the Cup will start to close especially with the cap.

Semin will have an excellent year because he is playing for his next contract. Sparky Anderson was right about having a team made up of players in the last year of their contracts.

Red Light

November 16th, 2010
11:35 am

The Caps will make it to the Conference Finals and lose to Boston, unless Sid and Malkin will the Penguins past them!

The Rangers Ryan Callahan had the “Gordie Howe hat trick” last night.

alex

November 16th, 2010
11:35 am

did you heard asg thrashers ad on 680 am fan “thrashers re charged re loaded and ready for Stanley cup contend” i got better idea for add “thrashers re cheap re lied by poor owners to confuse remaining supporters and ready for spot in lottery draft despite good job from current gm and coaches”.

Smoothie

November 16th, 2010
11:42 am

Joe – indeed. Let’s hope that even a couple thousand of the 11,000+ that “like” the Atlanta Thrashers on Facebook decide to take advantage of these specials this week. Beat the Panthers, steal one against Wash and the house could fill back up to around 14-15 k strong by T’giving.

Joe Friday

November 16th, 2010
11:52 am

“The Rangers Ryan Callahan had the “Gordie Howe hat trick” last night.”

Hell of a game to watch, that was a nice tilt he had as well. Can’t believe your goaler breaks his stick, chucks it taking a 2 minute, and then Staal comes right back and ties it up shorthanded, what an ending.

Red Light

November 16th, 2010
11:57 am

That’s not the kind of game that team usually wins. Great theater and an unreal finish. Dubinsky has had a great start to the season and Staal looked like one of his brothers in the slot on the game-tying goal.

Brendan

November 16th, 2010
12:15 pm

How does one properly explain the Rangers winning record, at this point of the season, given their roster and injuries? Is it all Lundqvist?

Joe Friday

November 16th, 2010
12:22 pm

RL, I watched that whole game and then my wife walked in right before the Pens tied it up, and I said “you’re good luck for your club” and then they take the lead and I say “really good luck!” and then that ending, great game to watch and the reason I get CenterIce every year is for games like that . . .

Red Light

November 16th, 2010
12:46 pm

Brendan:

It may not be all Lundqvist, but I can tell you they are 9-1 when allowing two goals or fewer this season. Combining this season and last, the Rangers have played in 54 games in which they have allowed two or fewer goals and have earned 86 out of a possible 108 points, a record of 40-8-6.

Acer

November 16th, 2010
2:13 pm

Joe & RL, you make good points about Philly’s and Chicago’s goaltenders. The problem of the Caps is that they don’t have a Pronger + Timonen combo or a Keith + Seabrooke duo in front of Neuvirth/ Varlamov.

But hey….it’s just an opinion. Maybe one of the G’s will be lights-out and a guy like Carlson or Alzner will emerge a top-flight blueliner.

@not_CThorburn

November 16th, 2010
3:15 pm

Coach says one more game like that and we all have to shave off our Movember ’staches. Some of those guys need to get it in gear because their ’stache is all they got! Not everyone can have hair like mine. Chris

Red Light

November 16th, 2010
3:44 pm

Acer: Schultz is very solid (+88 in his career) and has a Pronger-like body. Carlson is improving every day but I have my doubts about Alzner.

TrueBlue

November 16th, 2010
4:15 pm

Acer

November 16th, 2010
4:50 pm

Being on an offensive & NHL powerhouse like Washington will spike up your plus-minus numbers, even if you aren’t a solid Dman. Boris Valabik almost has a Chara-like body. Valabik’s body size doesn’t automatically translate into Chara’s talent…..again…how about we meet again in June to see how the Caps did in 2011? ;)

Red Light

November 16th, 2010
5:03 pm

Acer:

Agreed. But, I gave you Boston as my Eastern Conference champ, so what team are you advocating?

Brendan

November 16th, 2010
6:33 pm

Red Light, it’s an excellent trait for a team to have … to win tightly contested games. If the Rangers can only allow their opponent two goals or less, for most of the season, they’ll be in the playoffs. That’s a great stat to have, 9-1. So is 40-8-6, in such contests.

Dwayne

November 16th, 2010
10:02 pm

Hey Guys, when the Thrashers start giving up 2 or fewer they will be 41-2-11. Once again, I have no stats to back up my statement.

Red Light

November 17th, 2010
1:36 am

Actually, the Thrashers are 24-5-5 in their last 34 contests giving up 2 or fewer goals (2009-10 and so far this season), which means they have allowed 2 or less 20 fewer times than the Rangers have over the same time frame.

Red Light

November 17th, 2010
1:36 am

They are 3-0 this season when doing so.

kracker

November 17th, 2010
7:57 am

capgeek tweet: …Summing up, our estimates indicate the #bruins need to cut $4.9m in full-season cap hits to get Savard and Sturm off LTIR.

Help ‘em out and work a trade for Krejci?

Alan R.

November 17th, 2010
7:58 am

nice research, RL!

Larry E

November 17th, 2010
8:48 am

It is make or break time for the Thrashers. They cannot fall behind any further. They are suppossed to be professionals and there are really good players on the team. It comes down to putting out a great effort each time they step on the ice, have some pride, not just a paycheck. The leaders of the team should call out the players that are not giving the effort to win. This is basic sports leadership. Get off your as&#@% and play

Smoothie

November 17th, 2010
10:48 am

Wow, too quiet around here! Perhaps we need to have our butts chastised by stendek to get everyone whipped into a frenzy for tonite! :cool:

Anyway, whatta y’all think of the Uggla trade?? Since there’s nothing to talk about really. I like it, but I’ll miss Omar!!

Smoothie

November 17th, 2010
10:49 am

Aha! Now I know why it’s so quiet in here…the blog monster is eating everyone’s entries! It just ate mine. Testes, testes…1, 2, three?

LAC

November 17th, 2010
10:53 am

I just want to see much better DEFENSE these next two weeks, Plain and SIMPLE.

We have proven we can score, OK, not let’s start trying to keep it out of our net.
We simply cannot continue to play like we have, The GA has got to go DOWN. NO two ways about it.

I would rather see 3-2 or 2-1 games as long as WE WIN. Who cares if is not the most exciting game, 2 points is 2 points and that is what counts if this team EVER wants to make the playoffs.

Dwayne

November 17th, 2010
11:19 am

Thank You R/L

Dwayne

November 17th, 2010
11:31 am

games-11/ goals-2/ assists-8/points-10/ +4, Kreci numbers.
Good 2 way center. Missed 4 games due to concussion. Who do we trade?
Didn’t Krejci just sign a 3 yr 11.25 million deal?

Smoothie

November 17th, 2010
11:44 am

Dwayne – I don’t think BOS would trade Krejci. We’d be better off going after Blake Wheeler don’t you think? We need depth at RW and his speed and energy would fit Ramsay’s system to a ‘T’. If they demote Ryder to get his $4 M off the books, they’d still be over by $900 k or so. Perhaps Bergfors would be a target by Chiarelli due to the price-tag.

World Be Free

November 17th, 2010
11:46 am

LAC-agreed, better defense is the difference between this team making and not making the playoffs. That may sound simplistic, but just think how many more games this team could win if we were to cut out 1 goal per game?

Smoothie

November 17th, 2010
11:54 am

WBF – I hope the improved shot margins speak to our improved overall play and will start bearing the fruit of fewer goals. It has not helped that Mason has been dreadful in his last two starts. But over the last 4 games, we’ve only given up an avg of 30.75 SOG and we’ve had 8 more shots than our opponents. Prior to that, in the previous 10 games, we were giving up an avg of 38.6 SOG and only getting an avg of 26.9 to the net. Remarkably, we went 4-3-3 during that 10 game stretch. Hopefully, despite losing 3 of the last 4, the system is starting to click and the results will start to manifest themselves in the form of wins and not just reduced shot margins.

Dwayne

November 17th, 2010
12:03 pm

Here is my problem, I can’t look at any Thrasher that I would want to trade, it’s the same thing, he’s young, dmen take longer to develope, he’s this, he’s that. But why would we not depart with some of these players? we are 7-8-3, another losing season ahead if the defense/GAA don’t get better. Maybe if some Don Wadell clone GM would take slates and pretty boy off our hands for Wheeler or Krejci or a bag of pucks, I’d be happy.

World Be Free

November 17th, 2010
12:26 pm

Smoothie-it’s all about turnovers, reducing them and avoiding them. These guys are still not playing well enough together to avoid giving the puck away. They gotta use the glass if they are not sure and I agree with you on Mason-he has to get better.

LAC

November 17th, 2010
12:42 pm

Right WBF, I said at start of season, IF we cut down 50-60 GA, we would make playoffs most likely.

But at this rate, doubtful. Look at Carolina… 15 GA in last TWO games… Geez…

World Be Free

November 17th, 2010
2:03 pm

Same issues as last year-turnovers in the defensive zone, not covering the points (like Minnesota does) and poor 2-way play from our centerman. Defense is all about TEAM play and we are not there yet.

Dwayne

November 17th, 2010
2:51 pm

So our collective team stinks on defense regardless of the players? Isn’t that the coaches fault? Kind of simplifying it, aint it? Whens the cutoff for the team to learn Ramseys, for the lack of a better word, defense? And we thought we wouldn’t score any goals.

World Be Free

November 17th, 2010
3:12 pm

Don’t know Dwayne, I am sure Rammer has tried to teach the biys his brand of D.

Glad to be back on our blog, after spending a little time on the braves’ blog today. You figure Braves’ fans would be ga-ga over getting Dan Uggla, instead they are whining way too much. Makes me appreciate our group a little more, even with our resident whiners and Chicken Little wanna-bees.

Red Light

November 17th, 2010
3:31 pm

Ran into old friend Darcy Hordichuk this morning and had a great chat with him. I hope to have something posted tomorrow. What an extraordinary young man! He told me he still has a soft place in his heart for Atlanta and its fans. Sadly, he’s unlikely to play tonight.

Dwayne

November 17th, 2010
3:35 pm

The Uggla trade is a good one, especially if they can sign him long term, they get the right handed bat with power, Prado can play outfield if(when) Chipper gets hurt, again. They did not lose any top minor league prospects. TP aint going to be messing up anyones swing and the pitching is intact. Losind Wagner will hurt, but I believe Kimbrel will be ready.

World Be Free

November 17th, 2010
3:39 pm

Red Light-Darcy was one of the guys from the early years that I really liked. Good to see he has been able to hang around for a few seasons, great to see a few fighters left in the game.

Dwayne totally right on and I think there are more moves to come. Too bad Billy decided to hang ‘em up.

kracker

November 17th, 2010
3:40 pm

I thought of Wheeler in a trade but he won’t give the Bruins much cap relief. If they were to stash Ryder in the AHL then that changes things. But….wasn’t Wheeler the kid that refused to play in Phoenix?Of course he is a bit older now and if he got traded here he would have no choice to play, though he might do so w/ a very bad attitude.

World Be Free

November 17th, 2010
4:17 pm

I think Wheeler opted out of Phoenix because of the instability in the situation. Broones have to dump about $5 mil to being back Marco and Savard. They would be better trading at least one of them, if someone would take them. Savard likes Tronna but I doubt the Brunes would want to help the Loafs get better, since they hold Toronto’s 1 and 2 picks next season.

Alan R.

November 17th, 2010
7:22 pm

Bogosian is now off the Schneid.

Michael B. Shapiro

November 17th, 2010
8:19 pm

Alan R. beat me to it. Seems Bogo has joined Sopel on the raft headed off shore from Schneid Island. Go Thrash!

B. Thenet

November 17th, 2010
9:54 pm

And then Bogo is one the ice for the last 2 goals.

I guess the kids who got free tickets from Facebook got an up close and personal view of why nobody wants to pay to see these guys. That play in our own end right before the Florida GWG, it is up there with some of the all time worst performances in team history. Just embarrassing to make the Panthers look like an All Star Team for 5 minutes.

Joe Friday

November 17th, 2010
10:04 pm

“That play in our own end right before the Florida GWG, it is up there with some of the all time worst performances in team history.”

This. I had an up close and personal view of that sequence and called it embarrassing.

I think the team folded when they went in the locker room and heard that Buf’s knee is blown (it is, I assume).

R. Stroz

November 17th, 2010
10:32 pm

Joe Bob Friday – According to the post game presser, the coach was extremely unhappy with several players and shortened the bench to three forward lines.

Did anyone notice which forwards rode the pine in the third period?

I’m sure Slater was one of them.

Rawhide

November 17th, 2010
10:48 pm

Hey there gang…I’m back. Let’s discuss the latest Thrashers disappointment here.

R. Stroz

November 19th, 2010
8:45 am

Rawhide

November 19th, 2010
2:19 pm

R. Stroz – Nope