Which Thrasher will be last to join mass exodus from Schnide Island?
Yes kids, it’s that time of the year again. The time when we take our annual trip out to that tiny, remote, isolated, spec of land that is found in the middle of the Ocean of Zilch… Schnide Island. It’s that desolate place where players are stranded until they’re able to cough up payment for a ticket on the only boat off the island.
What’s the price of that ticket? Scoring their first goal of the season is required to get them off “The Schnide”.
Eric Boulton and a host of other Thrashers have recently participated in the mass exodus off of Schnide Island (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II)
This contest normally begins in late October/early November after the list of players still residing on Isle de Schnide dwindles down to about a half-dozen or so. Those players are then offered up as finalists in the “Who’ll Be the Last Thrasher Off Schnide Island?” contest. You, the readers and contributing commenters of this online forum, then have the opportunity to offer up your best guess as to just who will be the one sole, remaining “survivor” left on the island after watching others score, then depart.
Actually, it’s kind of a reverse Survivor contest in that, unlike that TV show, being the last one on the island is not a good thing.
Just last week I started putting the list of contestants together, but I’ve had to alter it after each of the last three games. Starting last Wednesday night in New York then continuing Friday night against Buffalo and Saturday evening in St. Louis, no less than six of the remaining players began a mass exodus off of Isle de Schnide. The mass migration has seen forwards Bryan Little, Nic Bergfors, Eric Boulton, Nik Antropov, Rich Peverley and Alex Burmistrov each make their way off the island.
I guess word got out to them that the contest was getting ready to get under way again, and they just didn’t want to participate…shrugs
What that leaves us with is five defensemen currently with the team that are still stranded on Schnide Island…Ron Hainsey, Zach Bogosian, Brent Sopel, Freddy Meyer and Johnny Oduya. Of those, only Hainsey Sopel and Oduya have played in all 11 games so far.
Ron Hainsey has seen a number of goal scored on his end of the ice, but he's yet to notch one himself on the other (AP Photo/Chris Carlson)
And while these are players whose primary responsibility is to help defense against goals being scored and not necessarily to score them themselves, these are the ones we are left with to select from nonetheless. So, let’s take time to review this falls’ finalist of “Who’ll Be the Last Thrasher Off Schnide Island?”…
Hainsey scored 5 goals last season and made his way off of Schnide Island three games into the schedule. It came during a 4-2 loss in Ottawa. He has 1 assist and is a –3 with 12 shots on goal so far this year.
Bogosian just returned from a shoulder injury suffered out on the west coast and has played in only 5 games so far. He wasn’t a finalist for the Schnide Island contest last year as he netted his first of his 10 goals on opening night. Bogey is yet to register a point thus far and is a –2 with 7 SOG.
Oduya only tickled the twine once in 2009-10, a goal which came during a 2-1 loss to Columbus last March after coming over from the New Jersey Devils. He’s helped out with 4 assists and has gotten 15 shots off on goal, but is a –6.
Sopel also only scored once last year while a member of the Chicago Blackhawks. It came almost a year ago during a 4-3 win over the San Jose Sharks last November 15. Sopes is a +1, has only gotten off 5 SOG and has netted an assists.
Who will be the last Thrasher off The Schnide?
- Ron Hainsey (8%, 6 Votes)
- Zach Bogosian (5%, 4 Votes)
- Johnny Oduya (8%, 6 Votes)
- Brent Sopel (41%, 30 Votes)
- Freddy Meyer (38%, 27 Votes)
Total Voters: 73
Loading ...Meyer has been out the past few games with a “lower body injury” and has also only played in 5 games. He scored 4 goals while with New York Islanders last year, getting off The Schnide on January 19 during a 6-4 loss to the Pittsburgh Penguins. He’s pointless after 5 games played, has one shot to his credit and is a –2.
Now, before we begin the process of sharing our Schnide Island picks with one another, I do think it’s worthy of pointing out that Fredrik Modin has come close to something of a first in regards to this contest. Never before have we seen a player score his way off of Schnide Island, only to find his way right back onto it during the course of the season.
But Modin has come pretty darn close to doing just that.
He got off The Schnide early this fall by scoring on opening night. But it would appear that the boat he departed the island on seems to have struck a reef and is taking on water. It’s currently stranded on a sand bar and, if the next high tide does free it, looks to simply drift right back to shore.
Since opening night, Modin has no points and is a –8.
Some might suggest that the best solution to this dilemma is to toss Freddy a lifejacket, place him in a raft and send him in the direction of Waiver Wire Straights.
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Red Light
November 1st, 2010
4:40 pm
For World Be Free, Spud Webb and other “former” Sabres fans!
Stafford and Vanek have combined for 72 shots but just seven goals while averaging 16:30-plus minutes of ice time per game. Their combined shot percentage of 9.7 percent trails Cody McCormick, that legendary sniper who has scored 11 goals in 201 NHL games and has netted 2-of-12 shots this season.
Vanek has missed the net on 17 occasions, while Stafford has missed on eight. But, where else does the pair really contribute?
Vanek and Stafford have combined to block a whopping two shots in 24 games. By virtue of being on the ice more than 16 minutes a game, you’d have thought an errant shot would have hit one of them more than twice. The hellbent for leather pair combined for 30 blocked shots in 142 games combined last year, one in every 4.73 games. Vanek has chipped in with a whopping two hits in 12 contests this year after bruising opponents with 46 hits last year.
Thus, you can trace Buffalo’s misery (among other things) to the $7.1 million man and his underwhelming counterpart on the other side.
Red Light
November 1st, 2010
4:45 pm
Yes, I know you don’t want goal scorers blocking shots, but if they ain’t scoring they better do something. Crosby, Malkin and Ovechkin each blocked more shots than Stafford and Vanek.
Alan R.
November 1st, 2010
5:10 pm
Glovesave and I, a couple months ago, outlined a lot of ideas that would get people in the door. Some of those ideas spilled over into a blog that was posted not too long after our conversation, which took place on Facebook.
You want to put butts in seats? We have a pretty good team (so far), but it’s going to take a lot more to attract the masses.
It’s not just you, ASG, that want this team to be successful. It’s all of us here in Atlanta. From the hardcore fan to the casual fan, we want this team to build a strong following. We want to sell out the bulb every night. Most important of all, we want the “away” fans to feel very uncomfortable.
Pardon me, but those “away” fans feel far more comfortable than they should. Especially when we’re only putting between 8k and 10k people in the seats.
Downtown is full of colleges. Tech, GSU, Morehouse, just to name a few. Then, there’s suburbia. Kennesaw State, Clayton State, etc. How about some $5 tickets to the 400 section for students? Beats the hell out of putting a curtain up. How about more stuff that will attract the average Joe Sixpack? Food or beverage deals (buy two hot dogs, get one free), for example, can go a long way when you’re trying to sell the average blue collar worker tickets in a down economy.
That’s just a small example. You want money? That’s good. We want our team to be successful, and our arena to be packed full of fans screaming for the Thrashers. The latter will do more good long-term. It will make players want to stay, and make the overall fan experience of attending a game priceless.
dwayne
November 1st, 2010
5:32 pm
Al got 60 million for Hawks, maybe Octotards spend some on Thrashers next year.
kracker
November 1st, 2010
5:39 pm
This was a rather interesting tidbit from the Atlanta Business Chronicle article: Three teams dropped prices this season, led by the Atlanta Thrashers, down 10.1 percent to $43.59.
I guess we would rather be the Caps, who raised their average price 24.2 percent, but lowering the Thrashers ticket prices 10.1 percent does more fairly reflect the recent records of the team.
World Be Free
November 1st, 2010
7:54 pm
Red Light-always “The Man” with the numbers.
Vanek needs a centerman to feed him, he is not getting the puck.
Stafford is afraid of the dark, as well as going to the net. Many of Vanek and stafford’s shots come from the perimeter. Meanwhile, in Philly, little Danny Briere goes to the net unconcerned about getting bruised on the way there.
Good things happen when you go to the net, it is that simple.
kracker
November 1st, 2010
8:46 pm
Wow! It just gets worse for NJ. The Devils have announced that Zach Parise is getting his knee scoped and Josefson is out 6-8 weeks for surgery on a hand ligament. Plus they already lost Salmela to knee surgery, Salvator has a concussion and another guy just broke his hand in a fight. But…..they do have Kovy.
Alan R.
November 1st, 2010
9:32 pm
What’s happening in NJ is called Karma. I feel bad for the players, but it’s still entertaining to see.
Get The Puck Out
November 1st, 2010
9:59 pm
Well—The Octo cluster just dished out a 60 million, five year contract to Al Horford. The Thrashers are just the red headed step child of sports franchises in Atlanta. Man, i hate these guys.
R. Stroz
November 1st, 2010
10:10 pm
When I saw Kovy’s cap hit of 6.66 million per season, I knew the Devils were truely playing with fire.
kracker
November 1st, 2010
10:15 pm
Yep 666 the number of the beast
Rawhide
November 1st, 2010
10:24 pm
Actually, it’s 6.67 when rounded off….but hey, it’s close enough for me.
kracker
November 1st, 2010
10:32 pm
Giants win the WS! Not that I am watching, I saw a tweet. Eat your heart out, Bonds. bwahahahaha
kracker
November 1st, 2010
10:48 pm
Not sure what this refers to but here is a tweet of passing interest to a few people in these parts….
PuckCentral Huge win for NYR tonight, hopefully White showed Torts once and for all that he’s really not worthy of spot in lineup unless injuries occur
Please pass the….uh, White Cloud
Brendan
November 1st, 2010
11:11 pm
NY Rangers beat Chicago, 3-2, tonight. Christensen, of all Rangers, with the GWG. Devils are losing to Vancouver, 2-0, in the 2nd period. Kovy not really hearing it from the Vancouver crowd, on my Center Ice feed. But I’ll have to keep listening.
The other Rangers, from Texas, did not. I must confess that … I have to feel bad for the Texas Rangers. They’d never won a playoffs before this season. Talk about DECADES of ‘utter futility.’ So, here they are … taking out the TB Rays, the New York Yankees, and then, the Phillies weren’t there to destroy them in the WS. Instead, they get the ‘golden opportunity’ of the SF Giants. And the result?? They lose. Try to wrap your head around that, if you’re a fan of the Texas Rangers. The whole season … right down the porcelain, and AT HOME, too. If you’re a Liberal, you blame George W. Bush for throwing out the 1st pitch, I suppose. Doomed from there, right?
So, $60 million over 5 seasons, for $12 million-a-year … to the SuperStar Sensation … that is Al Horford. Thud. Okay, fine. Whatever. These guys win the Mega Millions tonight, they’ll just go get Carmello Anthony, and say, “Nyet” to the Thrashers, yet again. Remember, the Thrashers were a FORCED ‘throw-in’ to close the deal with TimeWarner.
Why doesn’t ‘instant karma’ get these guys??
Thrashers27
November 1st, 2010
11:45 pm
I’m not normally the kind of guy that would do something like this, but I think it would sure feel good if everybody laughed hysterically anytime the puck is on Kovy’s stick when the Devs pay a visit to Philips.
World Be Free
November 2nd, 2010
8:16 am
Brendan-remember how bad the Phillies were for decades? I guess I feel for the T-Rangers, but they are housed in Texas so let’s hope their shoulders are as big as they say they are!
Dwayne
November 2nd, 2010
8:16 am
Brendan, you rekon when Ilya turned down the $$, the Octotards said lets use it on the Hawks based on DW telling them with RD as the GM and the new coaching staff “we can build a winner with minimal $$’s spent”? Oh how I would have loved to have heard those board room meetings.
Red Light
November 2nd, 2010
10:08 am
I’m sure our beloved host will be posting a new blog soon, so at the risk of being Ranallo’ed two blogs in a row, here comes my novel!
OK bloggers, it’s time for the latest version of What’s My Line?
Before we get too carried away with the Rangers’ victory over the Blackhawks last night, in which the Rangers blocked more shots (33) than former Atlanta Hawks center Jon Koncak had for his entire career, the likes of Pisani, Potulny, Skille, Stallberg, Dowell, Scott, Smith, Cullimore, Turco and Hendry have replaced Boynton (healthy scratch), Hossa (injured), Bolland, Eager, Versteeg, Ladd, Madden, Byfuglien, Sopel and Niemi.
The Sharp, Kopecky and Stallberg line was on the ice for both Rangers even-strength goals, albeit there were some strange bounces that led to both. But, like World Be Free said earlier in the blog about tying up too much money on ordinary players, the Blackhawks currently have $19.642 million tied up in four d-men: Seabrook, Keith, Campbell and Hjalmarsson. Add to that the Hossa, Toews, Kane, Sharp and Bolland salaries and you have $44.792 million tied up in nine players, or $4 million more than Atlanta’s entire roster. That means the average salary of the other 11 players to round out the 20-man active roster is $750,000 to stay under the upper limit.
So, with their first Cup in hand after the 49-year drought, the Blackhawks will continually have to re-shape their roster later this year and during the summer. Why? Because Seabrook is a restricted free agent. Of course they’ll want him back, which means they desperately need some team to take Campbell or Bolland off their hands, but we’ve already know Campbell’s contract is untouchable. So, maybe he is the next defenseman to join the likes of Redden and Souray in the AHL?
If the Blackhawks fade in the standings, Smoothie’s man-crush apple of his eye, Sharp, may in fact have to be dealt with Jeremy Morin called up to take his place. I guess these are the type of sacrifices that must be made to win a Cup. Here are the finalists and what they did the following season.
Team (Conference rank that year and the next year)
2006
Carolina (2nd then 11th) W
Edmonton (8th then 12th)
2007
Ottawa (4th then 7th)
Anaheim (2nd then 4th) W
2008
Detroit (1st then 2nd) W
Pittsburgh (2nd then 4th)
2009
Pittsburgh (4th then 4th) W
Detroit (2nd then 5th)
2010
Chicago (2nd then…) W
Philadelphia (7th, then…)
End of Chapter One!
Smoothie
November 2nd, 2010
10:48 am
Who needs Patrick Sharp!? We have Patrice Cormier!!
Joe Friday
November 2nd, 2010
11:20 am
“I guess these are the type of sacrifices that must be made to win a Cup.”
This is the only pertinent point. They won the Cup, nothing else matters. When’s the last time the Blues won the Cup? Buds? Thrashers? I rest my case . . . Hawks will be just fine, they don’t have money tied up in ordinary players, they have money tied up in money players. Niemi out and Turco in is a wash. Only players they really are going to miss (after Hoss is back) are Buf and Ladd, the rest were replaceable.
Red Light
November 2nd, 2010
11:22 am
Smoothie: I know you’re dreaming of when PSharp10 joins Twitter.com!
Red Light
November 2nd, 2010
11:24 am
Joe Friday: But at what price? $44 million for nine guys, expanding to $46 million with new Seabrook deal?
Joe Friday
November 2nd, 2010
12:32 pm
Dollar Bill Wirtz has now turned into Junior Moneybag Wirtz. He’s got the money to burn, and then some, if they need to hide a contract in Rockford, they’ll do it . . .I’ll take their 9 guys at $44m plus whoever over our 23 guys at $43m all day long . . . and twice this Saturday night!
Alan R.
November 2nd, 2010
12:33 pm
Anyone else seen last weeks top ten videos for goals and saves? Pavelec had the #4 save of the week (vs. St Louis), while Atlanta had three of the top ten goals (Little vs. NYR #10, Kane vs. NYR #5; Byfuglien vs. BUF #1).
Nice to see Atlanta well represented in these highlights for the past week!
Smoothie
November 2nd, 2010
12:33 pm
R/L – yes, then I can stalk him like nobody’s business! I’ll work him over so good that he won’t be able to refuse ATL’s free-agency overtures! Ha!
I think folks are really underestimating the value of Marian Hossa. I know some of us still love to hate him (perhaps that’s a bit strong), and we all enjoyed his battle with bad karma in the first two Stanley Cup failures, but he makes teams so much better.
Look at how much better we were in 2006-07 when he was at the top of his game. Kovy was a complementary piece that season and it rankled him big time. Who knows how much potential animosity b/w the two was a factor in Hossa wanting to leave. But as Brendan always says, he was traded here and you can’t blame him for wanting to have control of his destiny.
But back on point, this Chicago team, so far, doesn’t look anything like the team from last spring. Yeah, Duncan Keith is still a stud and he controls the puck as well as any. And Patrick Kane has the potential to be a dominant player, but he’s not gonna win you puck battles on the boards and in the corner. Sharpy is a great offensive player, but he isn’t always committed in the defensive end…so on and so forth.
But those bottom two lines of theirs reek. And without Hossa and Bolland, they are really hurting. I would hope our Thrashawks could completely out-man and outclass those two bottom lines, especially without Bolland in the line-up. And while Kane, Toews and Keith will give us fits, hopefully our depth can win out in a 5 to 4 or 4 to 3 offensive slugfest.
Blackhawks management better hope for a GOP/conservative landslide and a resulting turn of fortunes in the economic landscape so the NHL revenues will continue to trend upwards for a much higher salary cap in the next round of CBA negotiations.
Smoothie
November 2nd, 2010
12:38 pm
“…if they need to hide a contract in Rockford, they’ll do it”
I have a feeling this will be addressed in the next CBA and could be a major sticking point in hammering out a new deal timely. Hiding an overpaid player in the minors is as much circumvention as it is paying these players with ridiculous 12-17 yr contracts with the “tails” on the end of them. Just isn’t a level playing field nor in the interest of parity of the league…if that’s one of the goals, and it seems to be under Gary Bettman, like it or not.
Smoothie
November 2nd, 2010
12:40 pm
Darn it, I got caught in the blog filter of limbo again. Just wanted to follow-up on one of Joe F’s points about hiding players in the minors.
Thanks in advance Ms. Trixie! Please release me when you get back from the polling booth!
Alan R.
November 2nd, 2010
1:20 pm
From Twitter:
kausatoday
Atlanta D Boris Valabik is the only NHL player on waivers today.
Red Light
November 2nd, 2010
1:27 pm
Alan R. for Thrashers PR guru! Nice work if you can get it.
Brendan
November 2nd, 2010
1:28 pm
Dwayne, I think you’ve got it right. Don Waddell will say anything to retain his job. And when his recommendation is to field a minimum budget team, while expressing confidence that the playoffs will also materialize, then the only way to get him out of the organization is to remove ownership, for Waddell tells them exactly what they want to hear. But who knows? If Waddell ever said, “Look fellas, we’re not going to make the playoffs on a shoestring budget, maybe the Octocluster would just hire a GM who WILL them them that.
Brendan
November 2nd, 2010
1:28 pm
Make that, “Tell them that,” as opposed to “them them that.” D’oh!
Alan R.
November 2nd, 2010
1:32 pm
Red Light – Thanks! I may actually try to get something like that. The vote of confidence is nice
Brendan
November 2nd, 2010
1:35 pm
Red Light, I rather enjoy your novels. Keep publishing!
I think Chicago is doing what they have to do to make sure that an outstanding core nucleus of players remain, giving them “the chance” to win another Cup. I’m mostly worried about Marty “Playoff choke” Turco as the backstopper. But, if Chris Osgood can win a couple of Stanley Cups for the Red Wings, anybody can do it, I suppose.
Rawhide
November 2nd, 2010
1:49 pm
I’m sure our beloved host will be posting a new blog soon, so at the risk of being Ranallo’ed two blogs in a row, here comes my novel!
Red Light – Crazy busy yesterday, last night and today. New blog post tonight…sometime.
Consider this your well-in-advance Ranallo Warning.
P.S. Boris Valabik has been placed on re-entry waivers. Looks like he’ll be returning while Meyer recovers from his mid-body injury, I would guess.
Smoothie
November 2nd, 2010
2:47 pm
Ben Wright says Boris is on re-entry but is not being recalled. Does he need to clear before he can be used in a trade? Could the trade winds be blowin’ this soon? It is getting rather chilly outside with this backdoor cold front moving in.
Alan R.
November 2nd, 2010
2:53 pm
More from Twitter:
TSNBobMcKenzie
BTW, ATL’s Valabik is on re-entry waivers. ATL wants to give him shot to play elsewhere because his prospects with Thrashers are limited.
Hockey Biltong
November 2nd, 2010
2:53 pm
Octocluster is waiting to see if this formula gets the THRASH to the playoffs. If so, then they spend for a deal from a team unloading……….
GaVaHokie
November 2nd, 2010
2:59 pm
Why trade when you can claim him at half price?… I’d say he’s gone, and Atlanta is paying half the bill.
Smoothie
November 2nd, 2010
3:13 pm
I guess they couldn’t get rid of him via a trade and they don’t want him blocking the development of Postma, Kulda, Zubarev etc. I guess they are THAT cheap…duh.
Dwayne
November 2nd, 2010
3:50 pm
Sad Sad Sad, never liked Doris, ever, at any time. Another wasted pick. No one wants him, not even at half the price. Maybe Cindy Crotchby will hire him as his personal punching bag. Not the heavy bag either, the bag that hangs down low and bounces back and forth real fast. Speed bag, yeah, that’s what it is called. A speed bag with two small rubber balls in it.
GaVaHokie
November 2nd, 2010
3:54 pm
Or maybe he goes to the Islanders and becomes the next Brayden Coburn, Kurtis Foster or Brian Pothier story.
glovesave29
November 2nd, 2010
4:02 pm
Again – why not give Doris a season in Chicago to try to be a bruising, 4th line winger type? His skating is too cement footed to be a serviceable defenseman. What can it hurt? He should be all for it, as let’s face it, clearing waivers will be no problem with Valabik. But the dude is huge – so why not take a chance?
Puckhead
November 2nd, 2010
4:35 pm
Thrashers and Hawks enhance radio technology – no know how this effects the fans in the metro area but here’s the link – http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2010/11/02/hawks-thrashers-upgrade-radio.html
Brendan
November 2nd, 2010
4:48 pm
Glovesave29, rubbin’ my chin … Boris could screen the goalie on PP’s. I’d never thought of that before. He’d be hard to move. He’s big and takes up a lot of space. Considering Boris has never, ever scored an NHL goal, this would be the most likely way it’d ever happen for him. I’d give a PP or two, just to see how it works, assuming he clears waivers.
Question: “If Boris is claimed by another team, he must finish the season there. Correct?” That is, the team that claims him … cannot then TRADE him. I think they can cut him, again, but they cannot trade him. So, unless the claiming team intends to stash him in the minors, for their farm club, Valabik would either be playing or a pressbox scratch for the balance of this season, if claimed. Yes or no?
Brendan
November 2nd, 2010
4:57 pm
Today, per capgeek.com, the Atlanta Thrashers salary cap figure is $40.765 million. http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=7. How does this even happen?
Alan R.
November 2nd, 2010
5:00 pm
why not give Doris a season in Chicago to try to be a bruising, 4th line winger type?
I’ve often wondered the same. He’s really not all that good on D.
If any team out there claims him, I think it would be NJD. They have four injuries (so far), and no room under the salary cap to bring anyone up. At ~$385k, NJD can’t really go wrong.
Red Light
November 2nd, 2010
5:34 pm
This is actually somewhat humorous (or depressing). The Thrashers have drafted 35 defensemen beginning with the 1999 draft, and 34 of them were listed at 6-feet or taller. Of those 34, eight have actually played for the team, for a grand total of 615 games, or roughly 77 games per player so far. Boris ranks 3rd in games played for Atlanta behind XLB and Bogo with 80.
One only d-man drafted was listed under 6-feet, that being Enstrom, who has appeared in 257 games for the Thrashers, and has 130 points, which so far is 30 points more than the other seven combined. Hmmm?
Defensemen drafted by Thrashers listed at 6-feet or taller
Sellars (1), Exelby (357), DiLauro, McRae, Nielsen, Dwyer, Ustrnul, Nikulin, Cartelli, Suderman, Sipotz, Levokari, Boldt, Oystrick, Flache, Manson, Vannelli, Sharrow, Coburn (38), Lehman (1), Lewis (1), Valabik (80), Zubarev, Denny, W. O’Neill, Kulda (4), Postma, Bogosian (133), Redmond, Sol, Chiarot, Stoykewych, McFaull and Melchiori.
Defensemen drafted by Thrashers listed under 6-feet
Enstrom (257)
Red Light
November 2nd, 2010
5:36 pm
Er, Only one d-man drafted was listed under 6-feet, that being Enstrom…
R. Stroz
November 2nd, 2010
5:45 pm
Blog Title:
Dudley Dumps Don’s Dumb Draft Decisions.