Which Thrasher will be last to join mass exodus from Schnide Island?

Yes kids, it’s that time of the year again. The time when we take our annual trip out to that tiny, remote, isolated, spec of land that is found in the middle of the Ocean of Zilch… Schnide Island. It’s that desolate place where players are stranded until they’re able to cough up payment for a ticket on the only boat off the island.

What’s the price of that ticket? Scoring their first goal of the season is required to get them off “The Schnide”.

Eric Boulton and a host of other Thrashers have recently made their way off Schnide Island (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II)

Eric Boulton and a host of other Thrashers have recently participated in the mass exodus off of Schnide Island (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II)

This contest normally begins in late October/early November after the list of players still residing on Isle de Schnide dwindles down to about a half-dozen or so. Those players are then offered up as finalists in the “Who’ll Be the Last Thrasher Off Schnide Island?” contest. You, the readers and contributing commenters of this online forum, then have the opportunity to offer up your best guess as to just who will be the one sole, remaining “survivor” left on the island after watching others score, then depart.

Actually, it’s kind of a reverse Survivor contest in that, unlike that TV show, being the last one on the island is not a good thing.

Just last week I started putting the list of contestants together, but I’ve had to alter it after each of the last three games. Starting last Wednesday night in New York then continuing Friday night against Buffalo and Saturday evening in St. Louis, no less than six of the remaining players began a mass exodus off of Isle de Schnide. The mass migration has seen forwards Bryan Little, Nic Bergfors, Eric Boulton, Nik Antropov, Rich Peverley and Alex Burmistrov each make their way off the island.

I guess word got out to them that the contest was getting ready to get under way again, and they just didn’t want to participate…shrugs

What that leaves us with is five defensemen currently with the team that are still stranded on Schnide Island…Ron Hainsey, Zach Bogosian, Brent Sopel, Freddy Meyer and Johnny Oduya. Of those, only Hainsey Sopel and Oduya have played in all 11 games so far.

Ron Hainsey has seen a number of goal scored on his end of the ice, but he's yet to notch one himself on the other (AP Photo/Chris Carlson)

Ron Hainsey has seen a number of goal scored on his end of the ice, but he's yet to notch one himself on the other (AP Photo/Chris Carlson)

And while these are players whose primary responsibility is to help defense against goals being scored and not necessarily to score them themselves, these are the ones we are left with to select from nonetheless. So, let’s take time to review this falls’ finalist of “Who’ll Be the Last Thrasher Off Schnide Island?”…

Hainsey scored 5 goals last season and made his way off of Schnide Island three games into the schedule. It came during a 4-2 loss in Ottawa. He has 1 assist and is a –3 with 12 shots on goal so far this year.

Bogosian just returned from a shoulder injury suffered out on the west coast and has played in only 5 games so far. He wasn’t a finalist for the Schnide Island contest last year as he netted his first of his 10 goals on opening night. Bogey is yet to register a point thus far and is a –2 with 7 SOG.

Oduya only tickled the twine once in 2009-10, a goal which came during a 2-1 loss to Columbus last March after coming over from the New Jersey Devils. He’s helped out with 4 assists and has gotten 15 shots off on goal, but is a –6.

Sopel also only scored once last year while a member of the Chicago Blackhawks. It came almost a year ago during a 4-3 win over the San Jose Sharks last November 15. Sopes is a +1, has only gotten off 5 SOG and has netted an assists.

Who will be the last Thrasher off The Schnide?

  • Ron Hainsey (8%, 6 Votes)
  • Zach Bogosian (5%, 4 Votes)
  • Johnny Oduya (8%, 6 Votes)
  • Brent Sopel (41%, 30 Votes)
  • Freddy Meyer (38%, 27 Votes)

Total Voters: 73

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Meyer has been out the past few games with a “lower body injury” and has also only played in 5 games. He scored 4 goals while with New York Islanders last year, getting off The Schnide on January 19 during a 6-4 loss to the Pittsburgh Penguins. He’s pointless after 5 games played, has one shot to his credit and is a –2. 

Now, before we begin the process of sharing our Schnide Island picks with one another, I do think it’s worthy of pointing out that Fredrik Modin has come close to something of a first in regards to this contest. Never before have we seen a player score his way off of Schnide Island, only to find his way right back onto it during the course of the season.

But Modin has come pretty darn close to doing just that.

He got off The Schnide early this fall by scoring on opening night. But it would appear that the boat he departed the island on seems to have struck a reef and is taking on water. It’s currently stranded on a sand bar and, if the next high tide does free it, looks to simply drift right back to shore.

Since opening night, Modin has no points and is a –8.

Some might suggest that the best solution to this dilemma is to toss Freddy a lifejacket, place him in a raft and send him in the direction of Waiver Wire Straights.

Note:  Sorry for the delay getting this blog’s Fan Poll up, but the tech guys downtown fixed whatever the bug was in the system and so I’m posting it up now…even though it’s a day after the fact.

156 comments Add your comment

Tom

October 31st, 2010
10:13 am

A good week for the Thrashers. 5 out of 6 points is not bad even with the 3rd period meltdown last night.

Tom

October 31st, 2010
10:15 am

I do not think Modin in long for this team. Hopefully management will recognize the mistake and bring up a young gun to take his place.

Rawhide

October 31st, 2010
10:35 am

G’Morning all. I wanted to let you know that the reason this blog entry wasn’t coupled with a Fan Poll is because the “Fan Poll Engine” on the website seems to have blown a gasket. Hopefully the techies downtown can fix it quickly…if so, I put one up and let ya cast your vote that way.

Until then, just mention your pick for “Last Off Schnide Island” here in the comments section.

Tom – I agree with you on both points. 5 points out of a possible 6 is very good…especially seeing that two of the three games were on the road and the other was against a team that took a 2-0 lead on us after one period.

Opie played well last night, the team just seemed to hit a brick wall in the middle of the third. Not scoring when given the total amount of PP time they were afforded at the beginning of that period opened the door for the Blues…and they took advantage of it.

As for Modin, yeah…I just don’t see him sticking around too long. I’d be in favor of cutting him and bringing up Freddy Pettersson or Spencer Machacek. Two things working against that, though, is 1). We don’t know how long Little could be out. One of those players may be called upon to replace him, even if for just a few games, and 2). Modin’s departure coupled with the calling up of Pettersson or Machacek would put us in deeper trouble in regards to being under the cap floor, I think.

razorneck13

October 31st, 2010
10:37 am

Hate to say it, but Modin was a given for Schnide Island upon signing due to age and injuries. He was a gamble I wouldn’t take, I just can’t see him ever returning to form.

The only other person you’ve listed that really disappoints me for obvious reasons is Hainsey. His expected contributions aren’t anywhere near being met and we probably pay way too much for him. Time to say “later Gator”.

Again, no offense to guys like Meyer and Sopel, but what do we expect from them? My bars not high at all for those guys so I don’t feel let down, basically whatever. Most rosters have guys of that caliber, that’s par for the course. Learn not to rely on them and give them less ice time. Yes, I know that’s the antithesis of Ramsey’s tactics, but again nearly all teams have these types.

I really think Bogosian and Oduya are worth keeping, I’ll remain hopeful for those two. I’d hate to see them go out of a lack of patience on the organisations part and watch them snap out of their ruts elsewhere. Very realistic.

Fan from Carolina

October 31st, 2010
10:40 am

I liked this Schnide Island write-up. Very creative and entertaining after a tough loss.

Matt

October 31st, 2010
10:50 am

How pitiful is it that we can’t bring up a player because it will put us UNDER the cap? Ridiculous.

Have to say, I am really enjoying watching the Devils meltdown and Kovy’s lack of production this season. He was roundly booed in LA last night and may be even more despised by Kings fans than Thrasher fans.

As for last nights game, great first two periods but the “hold a lead in the third” bugaboo has got to be dealt with by Ramsey.

Rawhide

October 31st, 2010
10:53 am

One interesting stat to consider. The Thrashers have scored 36 goals on the season and have allowed 40. Both stats lead the Eastern Conference. So much for the “stronger defense/questionable offense” theory most of us thought would be in play this fall.

Fan From Carolina – Thank you very much. I actually wrote most of this while down in central Georgia yesterday at the JROTC drill meet my son’s unit participated in. Just had to edit out the Rich Peverley portion of it given his goal last night.

How pitiful is it that we can’t bring up a player because it will put us UNDER the cap? Ridiculous.

Matt – Consider it the “Reverse New Jersey Devils Cap Effect”.

Lee

October 31st, 2010
11:16 am

Gotta say Ronny. I know he’s a defenseman and he’s not supposed to get a 30 goal year but he hasn’t looked all that good the past 11 games. That said, there’s a long season ahead and still some players out there still stranded on the island….

Go Thrashers

DWTOO

October 31st, 2010
11:24 am

It will be Sopel – but who really cares, he wasn’t brought here for scoring. Think he’s something a menntor/coach type. Johnny O is having a tough time, but, he’ll come around. The Strozer’s bullhorn will motivate him.

And waive Modin – nice career, but, he’s done!

Hoof Arted

October 31st, 2010
11:34 am

I say it’ll be Meyer last off the island. He’s the 7th D-man and will get less time on the ice to get his ticket punched off of The Schnide.

But I think the real question to answer is this: What will hapen first, all five of the players left on Schnide Island score their first goal this season, or Modin scores his next?

Smoothie

October 31st, 2010
11:41 am

For the purpose of calculating the cap number, the NHL must include bonus potential since there is no way of knowing who will earn what. If the bonuses weren’t included at day 1 at the NHL office, then wouldn’t ATL, COL and NYI all be slapped with financial penalties for non-cap compliance? I don’t think the cheap bastards who own this team would ever let THAT happen, would they?

Brendan

October 31st, 2010
11:50 am

For me, it’s between Sopel and Freddy Meyer, waiving “bye-bye” to the dearly departed. Flipping a coin, with heads being Sopel and tails being Meyer, looks like Freddy Meyer will be alone on the island, drinking coconut juice. A natural laxative, by the way. When you’re on Schneid Island, I guess you just hope for mermaids and friendly dolphins. Or washed up jettisoned bales of ganga, that traffickers ditched before being chased off by the Coast Guard.

Re: Modin, I’ll have you know that these were the results of the “Modin Watch ‘10-11″ contest. Eighteen (18) votes for “over,” and ten (10) for under. These voted for “over” –Derrick, Diego from Lilburn, Flames, five_hole, Simon, Tony C., Tom Lysiak, Kracker, ThrashyThrashy, Rob, FIF, Darkhorse, Rawhide, Jen, Sisu, dwayne, Smoothie, and GaVaHokie. These voted for “under” — Jeff97, Spud Webb, Hockey Biltong, Larry, Adam, R.Stroz, Red Light, Curly, Badger Bob, and Brendan.

Hey, don’t look at me like that. There’s still plenty of time for either side to win that contest. When the going gets tough, Modin’s supposed to get going. A song by, Billy Ocean? Ocean … Island? Correlation?? I don’t know. But I do know this … the Center Ice “replay” of last night’s game starts at Noon, on Comcast Channel # 778. Lots of shutout games last night. I think there were five of them.

Brendan

October 31st, 2010
11:51 am

Fan From Carolina, Rawhide does his Schneid Island write-up each year. And each year, we look forward to it. It’s an AJC tradition, at this point.

kracker

October 31st, 2010
12:06 pm

Tough loss last night, too bad they could not get it to a 3 goal lead. Scoring on the 5 on 3 would helped. Anyone have the historical % of scores from 5 on 3 advantages? The Thrash ran out of gas, clearly, in the 3rd. I also wonder if and seriously doubt that any other NHL team has played Friday-Saturday games for 5 weeks in a row.

Those were some tough goals against on the first and second Blues goals. No way did Sopel “knock McClement off his feet” as it was ruled and reported. It was difficult to see exactly why he did go down but he certainly was not x-checked or shoved down on the replays that I saw. So the game has regressed from the [non-]call on Hull’s skate in the crease to last night’s non-call of McClement’s entire body in the crease, crowding and blocking Pavs movement for an easy stop. In fact the puck bounces off of McClement and over Pavs glove. I definitely call BS on that “goal.”

The second goal was a normal but a bit flukey goal, fluttering straight up off Pavs glove and the one place not to go – straight back down and stopping dead in the paint a few inches from the goal line for an easy McClement rake in. I would have felt better if the puck had of just bounced in instead of dying there like a dead fish. But this is hockey and crazy **it happens.

Regardless, Pavs player well in his first game. I am heartened that we have two capable goalies. I see a lot of home games in November but I also see a lot of quality teams on the Nov. schedule, both home and away, with only perhaps FLA and CBJ at home as games that one could say the Thrashers “should” win. None will be easy. If we can finish November plus .500, the team will be somewhere in the thick of the playoff hunt.

Anyway, I am proud to be in the fan group that counts the point last night as a big point, I will take as many of them as the team can get. We should have had the win but the Blues, a good team at home, had other ideas. Any of us, back at camp, would have looked at being a game over .500 with 12 points as a worthy goal for the October campaign. On to November!

World Be Free

October 31st, 2010
12:11 pm

Sopel-but as previously stated, he’s a defensive defenseman. I prefer he stops the opposition from scoring rather than worry about him scoring goals. Did not see last night’s game, was at a band competition until late last night. Disappointed by the inability to hold a lead, again.

On the other side of commitment-the Calgary Flames have re-signed defenseman Mark Giordano to a five-year contract extension reportedly worth $4.02 million per season. What? Isn’t this what got the Flames into enough trouble that they had to dump Dion? Giordano is a good defenseman, not great. Now is is a “payroll anchor” for the Flames for the next 5 3/4 seasons. Now that is stupid!

Brendan

October 31st, 2010
12:18 pm

WBF, there must something the Flames see to his game that we don’t. Or they want continuity. Or whatever. I wouldn’t think the Calgary market “fears losing players,” but I don’t really know. It doesn’t strike me that Calgary is like Edmonton, where it’s truly difficult to attract players to the market.

World Be Free

October 31st, 2010
12:28 pm

Brendan-that type of commiment needs to be be reserved for core players, studs, not a “good player” like Giordano. Especially when the Flames had to dump Dion last season because they had too much money tied up in defense. This commitment does not solve their scoring issues. At least NJ committed long term to a star player (Kovy) not a good player. Giordano is never going to determine the outcome of a game over 60 minutes on his own. He is not Duncan Keith or Seabrooke.

JT from Columbus

October 31st, 2010
12:41 pm

Thought Hainsey had his best game of the year last night. The Blues announcers were amazed at the skills of Burmy. They could not get over his back checking skills and his great hockey IQ. If he stays healthy looks like we got us a great player for long time.

World Be Free

October 31st, 2010
12:42 pm

JT-Burmie is a keeper

R. Stroztradamua

October 31st, 2010
12:42 pm

I predict Mason and Pavelec will stay on the island for the entire season.

Alan R.

October 31st, 2010
12:45 pm

Stroz – I disagree. Pavelec will score one. ;)

Red Light – Maintain the same pace all year and this team gets 89 points, good enough for 9th or 10th, or am I being obtuse?

Honestly, it’s about what I expect this year. 9th in the conference. I’ll be quite happy if we make it to those magical games that come after the regular season is completed.

Thrashy Thrashy

October 31st, 2010
12:45 pm

Modin’s gonna go on an unholy tear. I can feel it.

My pride’s on the line, Freddy. Put up the numbers and then get released.

R. Stroztradamua

October 31st, 2010
12:50 pm

Alan – Scoring on your own team doesn’t count.

kracker

October 31st, 2010
12:59 pm

I can’t in good conscience count defensive d-men as Islanders…oouh, that sounds bad!

Mikey

October 31st, 2010
1:17 pm

Overall I’m pleased where the Thrashers are after 11 games played. If they consistently get 12 points for every 11 games payed that would give them 96 points after 80 games played. Key is to not fall into any prolonged slumps. Key to staying out of slumps is to hit the ice hard game in and game out taking no team for granted.

As for the Schnide Island contest, any of those guys could “win” that one. But I’ll stick my hand in the hat hand pull out the name of…..Johnny Oduya.

Rawhide

October 31st, 2010
1:18 pm

JT from Columbus – It’s always nice to hear other team’s play-by-play people saying nice things about our guys. It’s one thing for those of us who are fans of the Thrashers go one and on about Burmistrov and his on-ice abilities. But it’s quite another to get that kind of objective analysis from others around the league.

Brendan

October 31st, 2010
1:30 pm

WBF, Calgary is being … a little bit … mismanaged right now. Perhaps, it really was time to cut ties with the Sutter Brothers. The 2004 “miracle” season was seven years ago, but it feels more like ten. I have to say, though, that the Flames really haven’t been in serious playoff drought, like they were, and used to be. From 1997 to 2003, the Flames did NOT make the playoffs. That’s seven, long aggravating seasons, that were mostly without hope. After the 2004-run, the Flames made the playoffs for four (4) straight years. But, I suppose in the world of “bottom line achievment measures,” the Flames never did win another playoff series since their run in 2004.

But I’m the sort who says, “Yeah, but … they had ‘competitive series.’ They lost in seven to San Jose in 2008. They went to seven games with Anaheim in 2006. They pushed the mighty Red Wings to six games in 2007. And they lost to Chicago, in six, back in 2009. That’s not exactly ’stinking it up.’ I’m sure Flames fans remember those 7 years of futility, when they served as nothing more than ’schedule fodder,’ as Sage of Bluesland might say. Because Darryl Sutter was named GM in 2003, he’s given credit for being the architect of the “miracle season” of 2004, and the playoff berths that followed. I call it the “Dan Reeves” effect. “But Dan Reeves got us to our only Super Bowl. You can’t fire him!!” Yes, you can. And the Flames can fire Darryl Sutter, too. His Flames team isn’t young. And it’s overpaid. Kinda reminds me of the 2006 Thrashers, under Waddell. The Flames can either ’see it for what it is,’ and correct it, or they’ll endure what follows, which won’t be pretty. I suppose, when a market has gone BONE DRY for 7 years, a season like 2004 can buy a GM a LOT of time. But, isn’t the time up, now? Unless the prevailing thought is, “Just continue to get us into the playoffs, with 1st round exits, is good enough.” I’ve never subscribed to that line of thinking. It reminds me a little TOO MUCH of the alleged “delighted” inhabitants of Section 116, that aspires to be the 15th-best team in the NHL, on an annual basis. Not meee. I’ll take the lottery draft finishes to build a Cup winner, than a decade IMPOSSIBLY mired in mediocrity, with no real ability to ever turn the corner to a Championship season. I think Calgary has thought … that it fielded a team that could get back to the CF or SCF, but has underachieved. Hmmn. Interesting, if true. Everyone in Calgary remembers the hopelessness of those ‘97 to ‘03 years. But is what they’re doing now … all that much better? It’s hard to rebuild, when you’re making contacts that other GM won’t accept, in terms of a trade.

Alan R.

October 31st, 2010
1:46 pm

Speaking of the Blues announcers, they also referred to us as the Atlanta Predators, and the goalie as Ilya Pavelec. Sounds like someone had a few too many 8balls.

Stroz, you might be thinking of Hainsey. :P

dwayne

October 31st, 2010
2:15 pm

on swedee modeenee, i thought the 14\56 contest was that he’d be a minus 14 with over 56 turnovers when he got released or by year end.

Tom

October 31st, 2010
2:37 pm

If we are stuck due to being so close to the bottom of the salary range,can’t call it a cap can we, how about we find a team that has an over priced player they need to get rid of. Maybe not a complete Sheldon Souray but a 3 million dollar a year player. We can keep him as our 23rd player and just leave him there. That would give us the flexibility to field the team we want to.

World Be Free

October 31st, 2010
2:55 pm

Brendan, I expect more accountability from fans and media in a prime Canadian market like Calgary. I would have greated the news of Giordano with a bog “WHAT?”. The signing creates a problem in Calgary similar to the problem theyt just fixed by trading a blue chip player to the hated Maple Leafs of all teams. Never mind dispatching Phaneuf to Atlanta or Carolina, he went to the Leafs, a Canadian team that Calgarians hate. Now the Flames have the same issue all over again; overpaid defense that is not great as a unit and an underwhelming set of forwards.

kracker

October 31st, 2010
2:58 pm

Y’all want the owners to spend more?? Then buy full-season tix. Waiting to get seats for 20-30% of full price, or not going at all, rather disqualifies you from beeotching about the owners group.

baaaaa baaaaaa

dwayne

October 31st, 2010
3:29 pm

Oct report card. C +, winning record, only 3 points from the top spot in the East, but 5 points from the bottom.

stendek

October 31st, 2010
3:44 pm

Thrashers will miss playoffs yet again. Wait. Still better team without Makeuillya Kovalchoke (hee hee how do ya like him now New Jersey?) and Sori Letemin. Craig Petrino has assembly molded into a team. Not one selfish feed me superstar plus a supporting cast but a TEAM. Talent marginal. Goaltending does not exist. Offense acceptable. However. A professional team which fails to score consistently with a two man edge is going nowhere. Fast! Exhibits total lack of heart. These Thrashers have no heart. Sad to say. But true. Great teams have great leaders. No Thrasher has stepped forward to fill that role nor is likely to. So instead of wrapping up an early playoff berth the Thrashers will be scoreboard watching late. Thrashers will be on outside looking in because of meltdowns like the one against Saint Louis. Losses are okay fans will continue to praise moral defeats which shows players that mediocrity is not only accepted but embraced. Bad precedent for fans to set! So enjoy the season. Few thrills ahead. Plenty of heartaches. No playoffs. So it goes. STENDEK

Thrashers27

October 31st, 2010
4:08 pm

Alan, I heard that too. Ilya Pavelic and the Predators reference…there were a couple of other slips as well. Our Jeronovich drives me insane, but those guys are bad. With Jerome, it’s just like he’s either trying too hard, or being fed key phrases to use. He claims to be a hockey guy, but I don’t buy it. He’s just a sportscaster, which is fine. Just don’t oversell yourself as a “hockey guru” when you’re not.

Cornbread

October 31st, 2010
4:25 pm

Sopel. And I don’t care if he ever scores one. He’s out there to block shots and get the puck out of the zone.

Last night’s first goal by the Blues was a joke. McClement flopped to the ice like a dead fish and should have been called for diving and goaltender interference. He should not have gotten the hat trick or the win. His other two were nice goals. Hard to blame anyone on any of the Blues goals last night. There a good team and battled back against another good but tired team on the road.

12 points in October. I’ll take it and who wouldn’t? Especially after playing 7 on the road and going 3-2-2 against some very good teams. 7th in the East and a bit more favorable schedule in November. Time to start building on a good October and putting some distance on those below in the standings.

Brendan

October 31st, 2010
4:59 pm

Oh I completely disagree, Kracker. Philips Arena could sell out all 41 home games, at not only FULL price, but TWICE the price, and the budget … would still be where it is. And the money would slide … right … into … their … pockets. And legally, nothing would or could stop it.

Well, what would PREVENT it? What “legal” measure would prevent the ownership from just pocketing the money? It’s their money to spend, or NOT spend. I’d wager that they use all the hypothetical “soldout” hockey revenue to pay Joe Johnson’s contract. What does R.Stroz always say?, “Money is fungible.” We, as hockey fans, cannot MAKE or FORCE the Octocluster to “suddenly” CARE about hockey, or the Thrashers. They either do … or (clearly) they don’t.

The Octocluster … is just like the bums and lowlifes outside the arena trying to sell you a discount ticket. “Yeah buddy! Two tix. Right here. You and me. We’re gonna see this game, together. We’re gonna walk through those arena doors together. Me and you, watchin’ some hockey! $12 bucks. You can’t beat this deal. Don’tchyou go up to that box office window, buddy. The deal you need is right here.”

It’s all garbage. It’s all lies. They (ownership) don’t care. Not about hockey, maybe basketball, yes. But hockey, no. The Octocluster could win Tuesday night’s Mega Millions, they’re not SUDDENLY going to spend on the hockey team. If they did anything, spending-wise, they’d take on some NBA “luxury tax” expenses to make the Hawks better and deeper. Keeping Waddell as long as they have … shows you how UNCARING and CLUELESS they really are … about the dynamics of running a hockey team. This ownership has done nothing BUT alienate the hockey fanbase in Atlanta. I highly doubt they’d spend one extra nickel on this hockey club, if they had thousands of extra nickels to toss away, as their mood strikes them. If it were important to them to win in hockey, and maintain a winning climate at Philips Arena, they would have made SWEEPING REFORMS after the NY Rangers swept them out of the playoffs in 2007. We ALL know that they didn’t do. And we’ve watched all our lottery draft picks leave this market without being re-signed beyond the requisite RFA years. It is what it is. And will be, until new ownership takes over, to properly care for this franchise and the fanbase of this market.

In my view, there is no defense for the indefensible. And any fan … has the right to see the ownership for WHO they really are, and b!tch about them accordingly, to their very heart’s content. The way the ownership of the Thrashers … treats their fanbase … is deplorable. It’s a WONDER that there’s anyone left.

glovesave29

October 31st, 2010
6:03 pm

Brendan – eventually Bettman is going to step in and force an ownership change. He’s not going to take the continual pock-shots for putting a team here and ignoring Winnipeg / Quebec. He knows this is a huge market where a winning team can fill the building. There were problems in Pittsburgh, Tampa and Phoenix. Now there are two new owners and soon to be a third.

Nice comment from EJ Hradek – “1 note on Thrash/Blues game : I’m so impressed w/ATL culture change. They r tough. Love Burmistov in all zones. Awesome kid” Gotta agree with him on Burmy…offense is a talent…defense is just hard work and dedication. 8 is going to be good at both.

Thrashers prospect / DU center Jesse Martin had emergency surgery last night after breaking three vertibrae caused by a massive hit 2 feet from the boards. UND forward Brad Malone came in with his hands and stick to Martins face and sent him flying back into the boards head first. Malone had a huge head of steam. I have no problem with hard hits. It’s part of the game. Every time you lace them up, you know something terrible can happen. This was going too far. When you check you lead with your shoulder and keep your arm down at your side – and either against the boards or in open ice. This hit was similar to that against Panther forward David Booth last season (its headhunting) – and they need to stop. Here’s wishing Martin a full and speedy recovery.

Alan R.

October 31st, 2010
6:43 pm

Get well soon, Martin!

Brendan

October 31st, 2010
6:45 pm

Here, here, to the speedy recovery for Jesse Martin.

Glovesave29, I can only hope Bettman is successful in making that ownership change in Atlanta, while keeping the team here, past 2019, when the lease is up at Philips Arena.

Alan R.

October 31st, 2010
7:17 pm

If there’s a winner here, Brendan, I would think there should be no troubles.

kracker

October 31st, 2010
8:08 pm

I simply see it differently. This owners group has spent above the floor in the past. Fill the arena more nights than not and some of that revenue will make it’s way into improving the roster. Unfortunately, we are in, and will continue to be in, times of economic recession… for, hopefully, not too much longer. So simply treading water and hoping our thin roster “gets coached up” as the kids continue to mature is about the best we can expect.

But like Costner and his cornfield, win and they will come.

sisu

October 31st, 2010
8:28 pm

I think the team is off to a positive start considering all the new faces. I am for one shocked how Buff is tearing it up points wise…goes to show I was wrong about him switching to D.

As to the Island, Sopel is probably the last one off if he scores, no worries, that is not part of his game as been stated, he blocks shots and plays defense…

Midfield

October 31st, 2010
8:48 pm

I’m just glad that Hainsey is not free skating out there on the PP anymore – replaced by Enstrom to carry the puck up the ice. I’m surprised that Ramsey could not figure this one out before the regular games would be played.

Curly

October 31st, 2010
8:53 pm

My guess would be Sopel as he does not shoot the puck much.

Joe Friday

October 31st, 2010
9:44 pm

Great to meet you (finally), Brendan, as well as Spud Webb and WBF. and always nice to see Mr. and Mrs. Stroz and Rawhide!

So, who’s that 5′2″ midget on Buffalo? I thought it was some kid trick or treating early and got lost out on the ice . . .

So Red Light, I think I better keep my day job, the roving reporter gig may not be my strong point . . .

Joe Friday

October 31st, 2010
9:46 pm

Friday was the first game I’ve seen in person this year. Burmistrov is a player and Oduya was skating just fine, I thought. Less than impressed with the 1st period effort, or lack thereof, there’s no excuse to let a mediocre team just outwork you that badly.

Brendan

October 31st, 2010
11:34 pm

Joe Friday, likewise, a pleasure. I believe the midget in question is N. Gerbe, if you’re referring to the Sabres player. He’s actually not a bad player, he’s just undersized. People said the same thing about Bryan Little, too. Time will tell if Little is really going to have a 10-year NHL career. Like Fox Mulder on the “X-files,” I WANT TO BELIEVE.

Kracker, I feel what you’re saying. But consider this … the Thrashers ACTUALLY MADE PROGRESS, however ‘incremental’ it may be, from 76-points to 83-points last season. The reward? (Wait for it) Their budget got HACKED! Last year’s budget was $53-54 million, cap-wise. This year’s budget? $42.3 million, BELOW the FLOOR!! How does one properly EXPLAIN that?

“Great job, guys! We’ve decided to cut your budget by $12 million next year. Best of luck to you, boys. And by the way, Bergfors, you’ll get your ‘qualifying offer’ and LIKE IT!!!” – Ted Knight, Caddyshack. (Okay, he actually said, “You’ll get NOTHING and like it,” to his nephew, Spalding.

Now, as best I can tell, per Waddell as the source, via public comments made in the newspaper, on TV, and otherwise in print, the budget gets set during the Summer (end of June). Before a single game EVER gets played, to even possibly be swayed by attendance figures. The failure to re-sign Kovalchuk affected season ticket sales, no matter what anyone says. I can respect an argument that says, “Well, without the renewals, the budget has to be lowered somewhat.” That only gets you to about 1st base. What about the whole, “How ’bout we TRY TO WIN” angle? What does a budget BELOW THE FLOOR of the cap say … about INTENT??

This team gets between $14 million to $17 million dollars (Dr. Evil laugh) from the NHL to prop up this market. Does the Octocluster take that money, and spend it all, to max out the cap, at $59.4 million? Sorry, you should read that first, thennnn sip your coffee. I don’t accept dry-cleaning bills for my posts. Nor will I replace your coffee-soaked monitor. No, they take that money … (paying pay close attention) and slide … it into … their pockets. They took that money … and didn’t even use it … to get ABOVE the league-mandated FLOOR.

How … much … more … evidence … would a ‘reasonable’ person need???????? They … don’t … care about the Thrashers. They let Waddell name his own successor, (where does that happen, but here?, and Bizzaro World, where hamburges eat people) while giving Waddell “oversight authority.” Boy, that’s sweeping reforms, right there. It’s NEW day. There sure is a new Sheriff in town. And he’s been ‘greenlighted’ to … LESS than the floor of the cap. There is, simply put, a right way and a wrong way to do business. Which way do you think it was … that caused Kovalchuk to turn up his nose at $101 million, guaranteed? Yeah, it’s the ownership. And in THEIR view, I’m sure they think the hockey fans in Atlanta SUCK, because they don’t simply BLINDLY FORK OVER their money. (Heaven forfend, that hockey fans in Atlanta ask for some ‘accountability.’) That, and perhaps, they blame corporate sponsorship for not buying out all their luxury suites, where the team actually can make the money amount of money. If the Octocluster could ditch this team, they’d have done it, already. But nobody will buy the Thrashers … without operating revenues from Philips Arena as part of the sale. Hockey teams, generally, lose too much money. There’s no big TV contract to bail them out. So, basically, it’s all on the shoulders of the ownership … to build a winner and cultivate a winning atmosphere, that would cause players to stay beyond the years of their contractual and CBA obligations. You’ve seen the results, Kracker. And I can hardly blame Season Ticket Holders for refusing to grit their teeth, grabbing their ankles, while saying, “Thank you, sir. May I have another?” They can sit in that VERY SAME SEAT … by waiting until November, to buy it at 50-percent off. R.Stroz calls that, “learned behavior.” If Pavlov could train a dog to salivate by playing music, then feeding it, … then surely … the Atlanta Spirit, LLC, can train their STH’s to get in the building for a fraction of the cost. And they have.

World Be Free

November 1st, 2010
4:52 am

Cornberead, in the good old days, floppers would be physically taken care of on their next shift. Doesn’t happen anymore, too many players worried about messin’ up their hair or getting another penalty.

Get rid of the new rules and bring back real hockey.

Can I add my Buffalo Bills to the participants on Schnide Island? Still a Bills fan, part time. It is painful.

Sara

November 1st, 2010
7:26 am

Brendan – I don’t have the source link at the moment, bit pressed for time to look, but the Thrashers have not received the full revenue share lately because of the poor attendance. There’s some percentage increase over the prior year you have to have in order to receive full credit as it were and given attendance growth has been negative …

I agree with Kracker in that if the attendance were to significantly increase regularly, and not just at total rockbottom prices, we would see more money being invested into the roster. I do not believe Atlanta Spirit is being neglectful solely out of choice but out of necessity. They’ve gone broke trying to prop up a franchise that is nowhere near self-sustaining, primarily due to losing Belkin’s $$ for so long. When 30% walks away, it’s gonna hurt. That said, it’s hard to blame people for not showing up either when the team underperforms routinely. Toronto and Montreal are about the only two markets immune to that problem.

The biggest problem is, until the lawsuit settles itself there is nothing that can be done to rectify the situation other than having ticket revenues/etc increase. They can’t bring in other investors, they can’t sell, and Bettman can’t force anything either – other than perhaps put on more pressure for them to conclude the litigation/mediation still pending.

Gotta wonder who’s gotten paid more – Kovy? Or all the lawyers? :/