Accountability and responsibility – Thrashers face defining games after ‘unacceptable’ loss

Unacceptable: (adj.) Not Acceptable. Unsatisfactory.  – “The Atlanta Thrashers’ effort during the 4-1 loss to the Buffalo Sabres was ‘unacceptable’”.

There really weren’t a lot of positives to take from Wednesday night’s “effort” against the Buffalo Sabres. And to a man, everyone seemed willing to accept their fair share of the blame for the 4-1 loss, one in which they were outshot 42-18.

But if you’re like me and care little for excuses, then at least you appreciated the words that came out of the Atlanta locker room following the game. Starting with the man behind the bench on down to the players who were on the ice, none were offered up and only words of accountability were expressed.

Thrashers head coach Craig Ramsay was able to get the team's attention after Ondrej Pavelec was carted off the ice on opening night. They rallied for a 4-2 win against the Capitals. But he needs to get them focused and ready this weekend following Wednesday's "unacceptable" effort (AJC Photo/Curtis Compton)

Thrashers head coach Craig Ramsay was able to get the team's attention after Ondrej Pavelec was carted off the ice on opening night. They rallied for a 4-2 win against the Capitals. But he needs to get them focused and ready this weekend following Wednesday's "unacceptable" effort (AJC Photo/Curtis Compton)

“We turned over pucks in the neutral zone. We gave up odd-man rushes. Our changes were horrendous”, head coach Craig Ramsay said following the lackluster performance. “It’s one of those games you want to throw away, you have to deal with, and it wasn’t fun after the way we played with a high pace against the teams out west. To come home and play at a slow pace was unacceptable”.

“We were just too darn sloppy. They picked us apart”.

Ron Hainsey has seen his share of stink bombs dropped by these Thrashers. And he wasn’t applying any sugar to the coat this one. “[The neutral zone] was a problem, but we were not good in most areas, except for goaltending,” the Thrashers defenseman said.

“It was an issue. We had turnovers in the neutral zone. That was a problem, turnovers in the neutral zone, but we were bad in most areas. It was one of those games where we weren’t that good”.

Hainsey even compared Wednesday B-slapping to on-ice failures of previous seasons, saying it was “sort of a flash back” to flush-worthy games of years gone by. Hmmm, I wonder if he ever wakes up in the middle of the night drenched by a cold sweat after his subconscious painted nocturnal visuals of the 8-1 drubbing by the Capitals last winter.

…shudders…

And don’t look for any whining about the travel to, around and from the west coast last week. “That’s a typical excuse you can use,” goalie Chris Mason said. “The travel in this league, everyone has to do it. There is no reason. Maybe the first couple of shifts, but there is no reason to have a whole game like that”.

That sentiment is very reminiscent of former coach Bob Hartley’s “If they are ‘tired’ from the travel, let them install windshields for a while” comment several years back.

Missing from any post-game comments, however …anything that had to do with “bad bounces”, “bad luck” or “a break, a break there” kind of tripe. They were flat out outplayed, flat out beat and, if nothing else, it’s refreshing to hear those responsible for the debacle man-up and hold themselves accountable for their part in it.

Accountability: (n.) The state of being accountable; liability to be called on to render an account; the obligation to bear the consequences for failure to perform as expected; accountableness – “The Thrashers players have expressed words of ‘accountability’ for their play”.

Now, if you are looking for any silver lining in the cloud that still emanates from the steaming pile of FAIL that the Thrashers dropped on the ice of Philips Arena Wednesday night, it’s that no team has ever been eliminated from the postseason after a loss in the sixth game of the season. As bad as it was…and it was bad…there are still 76 still to be played in season.

Thomas Vanek, Drew Stafford and the rest of the Buffalo Sabres had themselves a brutally good time in Thrasherville Wednesday night. They won 4-1 and outshot Atlanta 11-2 in the first period (AP Photo/John Bazemore)

Thomas Vanek, Drew Stafford and the rest of the Buffalo Sabres had themselves a brutally good time in Thrasherville Wednesday night. They won 4-1 and outshot Atlanta 11-2 in the first period (AP Photo/John Bazemore)

The first of those will occur tonight when the 4-1-1 Tampa Bay Lightning make their first of three trips to Thrasherville. The Bolts arrive in Thrasherville following last night’s video review-delayed overtime loss to the Islanders.

This next game, and the one that follows, will show just as much about who and what this team is than the events of two nights ago…if not more. While they won’t push them on the brink of playoff elimination if lost, the way the conduct themselves will show a lot about what kind of pride these Thrashers take in themselves and their team.

It”ll be a defining moment, if you will, in this still-young season.

If the coaches and players were truly embarrassed at the way the they were beaten…and they should be…then the way the come out versus these division rivals will say a lot about how they worked, how they practiced and how the committed themselves to insure the past does not repeat itself. This is even made all the more so given they were beaten in Tampa Bay 5-3 on the opening weekend of the season.

As we’ve taught our children…it’s one thing to simply acknowledge accountability and express remorse for being responsible for what took place. It’s another to hold one’s self accountable and responsible to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

By some accounts I have heard from people close to the organization, during a team meeting yesterday that it was made very clear by Ramsay and Co. that no player was exempt from being held accountable and responsible for their actions. No player…from the highest paid to the lowest…was above having to answer to their teammates and coaches for “unacceptable” play and no job was “safe”.

To that measure, Nigel Dawes, found himself riding the waver wire by the end of the day. If he clears waivers at noon today he’ll find himself playing in the AHL along with Boris Valabik, who himself was thrown to the Wolves last week. Dawes had no points and was a –6 in six games played. His game-winning shootout goal in Anaheim Friday was one of his few highlights.

But I would not at all be surprised if others find themselves on the “outs” if either game this weekend come close to fouling the air as badly as the last one did.

Responsibility: (n.) 1. The state, quality, or fact of being responsible. 2.Something for which one is responsible; a duty, obligation, or burden. – “Coach Ramsay will make it clear that the ‘responibility’ rests with every man on the team when it comes to their on-ice performance”.

Who could find themselves in danger of being tossed into Ramsay’s doghouse? Well, dare I suggest one Mr. Bryan Little? He has three assists and is a +2, but after six games has yet to crinkle the twine. This alone wouldn’t be all that troubling if not for the fact he is coming off a disappointing 13 goal just a season ago.

I mean, not to sound cynical, but just how long is Little going to be able to merit the “but he scored 31 for us in 2008-09” defense before his lack of scoring over the past season-plus starts to become a serious concern? The twelfth overall pick in ’06 needs illuminate the lamp.

Nigel Dawes scored the shootout winner against the Anaheim Ducks last Friday night. However, he had no points, was a -6 and was placed on waivers Thursday (AP Photo/Lori Shepler)

Nigel Dawes scored the shootout winner against the Anaheim Ducks last Friday night. However, he had no points, was a -6 and was placed on waivers Thursday (AP Photo/Lori Shepler)

Rich Peverley, the waver-wire steal of two seasons ago, has scored just as many goals this season as Little has…or you or I have, for that matter. Pevs has but 2 assists and is a –2.

Both are leading candidates to find their images on my Todd White Honorary Milk Carton this fall.

Then there’s Freddy Modin, who has been barely visible on the ice with one goal and a –4 in 5 games played. I honestly expected a little more from the veteran.

Are the above-mentioned three, or any other player… including Nigel Dawes… solely responsible for the beat-down at the hands of Buffalo or the atrociously high amount of shots taken on our goal? Nope. But these are top-line performers who are looked upon this season to perform as such.

Excuses need not apply here.

And while I don’t see Little or Peverley being sent packing, I don’t think it’s outside the realm of possibility that their ice time could be reduced in favor of those who are getting the job done.

Simply put, coach Ramsay doesn’t strike me as the type who places “player potential” or “past performances” higher in value than “on-ice effort” and “scoreboard results”.

Accountability and responsibility: Two virtues the players had better hold themselves to this weekend. If not, the Thrashers now have a coach who will indeed do just that… hold them accountable and responsible for their actions.

249 comments Add your comment

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:10 pm

Sopel and Hainsey had nothing to do with that goal … the turnover came from Modin …

Lee

October 23rd, 2010
9:10 pm

Tied, but still up for grabs!

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:12 pm

Caps have turned the screws up full strength here … great test for our guys, to see how they hold up.

Oh, and Burmistrov just drew his 8 zilllionth penalty of the year. Guy is a tripping penalty machine.

Lee

October 23rd, 2010
9:12 pm

Tom

October 23rd, 2010
9:13 pm

Litz, I retract the previous comment. Was listening to the Caps announcers and that was what they said. I still stand by the frustration that we are giving goals to the Capitols.

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm

yeah … Sopel just gave up another … thankfully caps went offsides.

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:23 pm

Another giveaway, another goal, and caps lead 3-2

Oh, and another hat-trick for an opposing team’s player

Lee

October 23rd, 2010
9:24 pm

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:25 pm

This just drives me nuts … I can handle a breakaway getting behind our defense … but these giveaways in OUR ZONE resulting in goals? That’s inexcusable.

Tom

October 23rd, 2010
9:26 pm

How the hell is Ramsey not going absolutely nuts on the players tonight. We are putting this game on a silver platter for the Caps.

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:27 pm

Ovechkin just crashed the goal, and gets called for goaltender interference. 2mins for him on a BIGGER hit than buff’s … and buff gets 5mins + the game.

Tell me that isn’t home ice advantage …

Lee

October 23rd, 2010
9:28 pm

Hopefully a power play. Gosh, do we need it.

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:28 pm

Oh, I can just see Ramsay’s postgame scrum already … he doesn’t mince for words, and he doesn’t in any way cover-up. This will be brutal.

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:30 pm

PP expired uneventfully.

Lee

October 23rd, 2010
9:31 pm

Wow, we just blew the game on that power play.

Tom

October 23rd, 2010
9:36 pm

4 shots in first 15 minutes for Caps, 30 shots in the next 28 minutes. #$%#$@

Lee

October 23rd, 2010
9:37 pm

Oh so close!

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:38 pm

KANE !!!! TIE GAME!

Tom

October 23rd, 2010
9:39 pm

Nice goal by Evander.

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:39 pm

Oh man … they just got to the goal on the stream … BEAUT of a dink, jink, and slap it home.

Lee

October 23rd, 2010
9:41 pm

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:42 pm

Caps turned the screws WAY WAY WAY up in the third … score’s tied, but the stats are pretty lopsided their way

Lee

October 23rd, 2010
9:42 pm

I was getting really upset for a second then Kane once again nets it!

Ready for OT?

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:44 pm

Damn. Caps win in overtime.

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:45 pm

That’s disappointing … but Kane salvaging the point at least takes a lot of the sting out.

Lee

October 23rd, 2010
9:45 pm

Should’ve passed to Thorby. Was wide open.

Tom

October 23rd, 2010
9:46 pm

Fudge… We got the point but Fudge…

Lee

October 23rd, 2010
9:46 pm

Not a bad game. Still get a point.

litz

October 23rd, 2010
9:47 pm

Kaner, though … 2 more goals … guy’s just amazing.

Rightshot

October 23rd, 2010
9:47 pm

Sorry Thrashers.

BG33Brown

October 23rd, 2010
9:49 pm

Thats a great point after the way we’ve played the last 2 games.

But we should have had 2 pts. 3 terrible turnovers in our own zone. Mason, Modin and Oduya. The Modin one was by far the worst. He’s 5 feet from the blueline and he centers it to god knows who.

Flagstaff

October 23rd, 2010
9:55 pm

44 shots against. Sure, they played with energy. Sure, Kane had two goals. But the Thrashers cannot expect to win when their zone is a shooting gallery.

R. Stroz

October 23rd, 2010
10:01 pm

MODIN SUCKS!

Modin is the result of the ASG bird going dumpster diving.

For those individuals in Thrashers management that thought Modin was a good substitute for Afinogenov, you’re an idiot of Mike Milbury proportions.

litz

October 23rd, 2010
10:01 pm

should never have gotten to that level (btw, it was “only” 38 shots during regulation) …

We gave them 18 — EIGHTEEN — shots in the 3rd period … to our *five* …

TableHockey

October 23rd, 2010
10:13 pm

Wow just heard Kovy was a scratch for NJD tonight – coaches decision. That’s an expensive press box!

My TV provider didn’t have the game so I was only able to follow via the web. Sounds like Mason faced a lot of rubber in the third.

EA

October 23rd, 2010
10:15 pm

Kane rocks! Much better game except the turnovers. Would have loved 2 pts. Hopefully, we are back on track. News of the night-Kovalchuk benched.

R. Stroz

October 23rd, 2010
10:16 pm

BTW, Modin has the worst plus/minus on the team with a -7.

Modin is older, slower, and softer than Charmin.

Thanks Dudley.

Tom

October 23rd, 2010
10:23 pm

Kolvachuk, It took 7 games to determine he was a 100 million dollar mistake.

Atlanta Spiritless

October 23rd, 2010
10:26 pm

Stroz – Modin’s Salary cap hit is much less than White’s.

litz

October 23rd, 2010
10:27 pm

Yeah, but he’s THEIR 100 million dollar mistake.

Said it earlier … tonight we saw the difference between Ovechkin and Kovalchuk — Ovechkin will skate back and disrupt the breakaway. Kovelchuk will stand there and watch as it passes him by.

Tom

October 23rd, 2010
10:33 pm

You got it Litz – Kovy only goes hard forward, As a youth coach it is the most unattractive quality in a player. I love guys who skate harder back checking than they do forward.

R. Stroz

October 23rd, 2010
10:38 pm

Rawhide – I TRIPLE DOG DARE you to put that POS Modin on the MILK CARTON.

Atlanta Spiritless – True, so Modin is cheaper toilet paper.

EA

October 23rd, 2010
10:39 pm

Thev NJ coach said it was his decision to bench Kovalchuk. He was asked if he would play him the next game. He said no decision will be made until tomorrow, Apparently, Kovalchuk was no where to be found. The guys on Hockey Night in Canada said benching him costs NJ $42,000 per game. Moose was booed and pulled from the game. I feel bad for him. Also, in case you missed it, Scott Hartnell finally cut that disgusting head of hair.

Flagstaff

October 23rd, 2010
10:51 pm

R. Stroz– Does that make Modin… Angel Soft?

Thrashy Thrashy

October 24th, 2010
12:13 am

I’m giving this crew 20-30 games to get its act together. After that, I think we’ll have a good idea of what we’ve got. If we’re still getting out-shot and out-faceoff’d by a lot over that time, I think I can adjust my expectations down about 20 points for the season.

Brendan

October 24th, 2010
12:29 am

It was good just to get a point out of this one. Atlanta took three out of four possible points vs. Washington.

Rawhide

October 24th, 2010
12:39 am

R. Stroz – Actually, one gets their picture on the milk carton because they are “missing”…haven’t been seen. Not just for sucking. If you ask me, it’s Little who may deserve the “Milk Carton Treatment” as he is completely MIA on offense.

Anywoooo…The Caps certainly had Semin-chanted evening in D.C. Saturday night, eh?

R. Stroz

October 25th, 2010
4:12 pm

Rawhide

October 26th, 2010
10:52 am

R. Stroz – Nope.