Can Burmistrov or Esposito take advantage of Cormier’s tough break?

Of all the prospects the Thrashers have at their disposal, the one that I’ve felt had the best chance of cracking this fall’s roster was Patrice Cormier. The 20-year old forward came over to Atlanta last February along with Nic Bergfors and Johnny Oduya when Anssi Salmela and, and…snapping fingers… oh, who was that other guy we sent packing?

Oh yeah…Ilya Kovalchuk.

Anyway…

Cormier came to Thrasherville with some baggage in tow as he was currently serving a season-ending suspension. It came as a result of a vicious hit on Michael Tam during a QHJML game last January. Cormier is answering criminal charges for that incident. But even with that hanging over his head, Rick Dudley…then associate GM…still though highly enough of his on-ice talent to bring him on board.

Cormier impressed during prospect camp and last week put in solid performer at rookie camp. To many, his jump to the NHL rested simply on continuing his fine work during training camp. Unfortunately, that came to a grinding halt last Thursday when he suffered a broken foot during a 4 on 4 scrimmage, blocking a shot even though his team trailed 4-1 in the closing moments.

Bad break for Cormier? Yes, yes it is. But where one suffers a setback, another realizes an opportunity. This is the cold, hard realities of professional sports.

This brings us to another bright prospect in the Thrashers pipeline… Alexander Burmistrov. The Russian forward was selected by the Thrashers with their eighth-overall draft pick last June. Since then, I’ve spent the summer believing that this kid was destined for one more season with the Barrie Colts…even if for no other reason than that there simply would be no room at the Thrasherville Inn for him given the talent in house.

But that all changed Thursday.

Since Cormier isn’t going to be available on October 8, I don’t think it’s inconceivable that we could see the four starting centers suiting up as Antropov, Peverley, Burmistrov and Slater. Antropov and Peverley, in my opinion, are all but shoe-ins as your first and second line pivots. And although I think the team would like to give Slater more than fourth line minutes, he’s handled the centerman’s job there before and could do so again given the circumstances. This leaves the third line open for some competition.

Angelo Esposito has suffered two ACL tears in as many years. But he's showing no signs that it is bothering him now (AJC/Jason Getz)

Angelo Esposito has suffered two ACL tears in as many years. But he's showing no signs that it is bothering him now (AJC/Jason Getz)

Cormier’s injury aside, I’ve opined that I wanted to see how Burmie handled himself alongside NHL talent. Saturday was the first time we got to see that and to be honest I thought he did quite well. I’m sure he found out that he’s going to find less space to operate in and his reaction time has to be picked up at this level, but my initial review is nothing but positive.

Angelo Esposito is another one who could benefit from having one less prospect to compete with. I’ve watch him skate this summer and to be honest, he shows zero signs that he’s anything but recovered from his recent ACL tear. He’s quick on his skates and shows no visible signs that he’s nervous about cutting sharp.

The only real test remaining for Espo is how will it holds up during actual game conditions, and there is only one way to do that… play in games. The question I have is, outside of preseason matches, would the team want to have that test done at the NHL level or AHL? I would guess the latter.

Regardless, I’m pleased to see he’s progressed as well as he has.

Additional Observations From Training Camp

One player that really stood out to me as training camp got underway Saturday is Nigel Dawes, the 5’-8”, 195 lb forward who was signed recently to a two-way contract. Folks, don’t let his diminutive statue fool you. He’s like a fireplug on skates out there, using that low center of gravity to his advantage. And he isn’t afraid to go after the puck…and the opposition…in the corners.

Quick, crafty, and a “pest” for opposing defenseman. Those are words that come to mind watching Dawes.

Also, liked how Rich Peverley and Andrew Ladd worked together on the same line. If I hadn’t known any better I would swear these two have been linemates for some time now. The two hooked up on a goal that I hope we’ll see many times this season as the Pevs Dispenser dished a nifty pass over to Ladd who then beat Chris Mason.

Nigel Dawes scored XX goals and XX assists with Calgary last season (AP/Larry MacDougal)

Nigel Dawes scored 14 goals, 18 assists and was a +1 for Calgary last season (AP/Larry MacDougal)

Likewise, I was impressed with the pairing of Ron Hainsey and Dustin Byfuglien on defense. Buff looked at home on the blueline and the two seemed very comfortable with one another.

I’m wondering if this is simply a camp experiment or if there is more to it. I say that because coach Ramsay said a few weeks ago in a conversation with myself and Matt McConnell that he would like to get his guys together as quickly as possible. This, Ramsay explained, would allow them some time to gel during preseason. But given the amount of talent in camp he didn’t know if he could do so and still give some of the prospects a fair chance to prove themselves.

However, at the time he was responding to a question regarding the overall squad. Hainsey and Buff are two that have no question as to whether they’ll make the roster, so maybe Ramsay has some intention to keep them together.

And lastly, there’s Freddy Modin. Simply put, he looks ready for season already. All I could think to myself while watching him play was, “He’s gonna be 36-years of age on opening night…really”?

Liking that pickup even more right now.

Ring Around The Blogosphere

It’s been a while since we last took a trip around the hockey blogosphere, but here are a couple of entries that have caught my attention.

Razor Catch Prey of the The Blueland Chronicle takes a look back of the Kovalchuk contract controversy.

The Hockey News’ Adam Proteau has released his Eastern Conference predictions. So how does he feel about the Thrashers? Well, he likes the new GM and coach, but as for results, he’ll believe it when he sees it.

Our own Smoothie opines in his latest As The Birds Thrash blogthat Freddie “The Fly” Pettersson is not a “prospect” anymore. He firmly believes that he’s a ready for prime time player.

Daculafan takes issuewith those who question Akim Aliu’s character in his latest entry over at FanThrashtic.

And finally, we discussed Patrice Cormier and his outstanding legal situation resulting from the hit on an opponent. But Carl Danbury, known in these parts as “Red Light”, wants us to know there’s another side to the New Brunswick native.

123 comments Add your comment

Matt

September 18th, 2010
9:07 pm

Ahem, Erste?

Bill what kind of crowd showed up in Duluth? Would love to come, but it’s a long haul from Locust Grove.

Rawhide

September 18th, 2010
9:18 pm

Matt – Not a bad showing at all, really. Wasn’t “filled to capacity” but a good size crowd.

Smitty

September 18th, 2010
9:54 pm

I thought Espo looked pretty good on Friday. He showed me a little edge when he went after Aliu after Aliu stood him up with a good hit. Common sense prevailed after a little pushing and shoving. First impressions on Burmie is that he is not quite ready as Kane was last year. With the late signings I think this gives the young guys another year of jr or the AHL.

I always though the young guys should play as soon as possible. But with the obvious depth the Thrashers now have, the young guys can get some more seasoning. I do not think we had that luxury in the past.

Flagstaff

September 18th, 2010
11:12 pm

Pssh. 12th. Thanks, Adam.

Good blog, though, Bill. I couldn’t stay to watch as long as I would have liked, and I only got to see Group A practice. That being said, I have to agree about the chemistry which Ladd and Peverley seemed to have. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they wind up on the second line together.

Smoothie

September 18th, 2010
11:55 pm

Bill – as per usual (taking off my hat and bowing gracefully before you), I am humbled by your gracious gesture to link my latest blog entry to your esteemed column. Sounds like Ramsay, per his Q&A with C-Viv after practice, is also quite pleased with the hard-charging Swede, Fly Freddy P. And good to hear Dawes is already making his presence felt. Damn this is going to be fun!! Go Thrash!

Brendan

September 19th, 2010
12:53 am

What a good blog, Rawhide! Well, I want to put this out there for discussion. Are we talking about a 9-game audition? What? Huh? Well, the second Esposito or Burmistrov’s skate touches NHL ice for Game # 10, the clock starts ticking towards RFA eligibility. In the case of Esposito, I don’t think that’s all that much of a concern. In the case of Burmistrov, I think there’s a financial consideration to make.

Meaning what, exactly? Well, ask yourself this question, and please be HONEST, what would you rather prefer: Burmistrov, at age 20, in Year 3 of his capped 3-year deal … or age 21, of the same? Isn’t age 21, at the SAME PRICE, a little more enticing … especially when R.Stroz says the Atlanta Spirit, LLC songbird sings, “Cheap, cheap, cheap?” Again, that’s a FINANCIAL decision, not a HOCKEY decision. If it’s just about hockey, and Burmistrov earns a roster spot out of camp, then there’s nothing more to talk about. He’s on the team. And he’ll stay there for the rest of the season, barring something unforeseen. Then again, isn’t it an incontestable fact that every high-end 1st round Thrashers pick that has ever been RUSHED into the lineup … has suffered a rookie season injury? I’m not a fan of rushing prospects. I still see this season as Year Four of a 4-year building project. So Adam Proteau sees us 12th, in a regression from last year. I can’t say he’s completely offbase. Like Dudley, he wants to SEE IT, FIRST, before bestowing the glory upon them. Fair enough. I can see the Thrashers finishing anywhere between 8th and 12th. If we could know, as a certainty, that the Thrashers would finish outside of the playoffs, I’d rather start the Burmistrov RFA clock ticking in the 2011-12 season. As fans, however, there’s usually one thing that unites us all. We want to win. And we want to win now. So, if Burmistrov makes that happen for us, then “immediate gratification” comes into play. Sometimes, biting into that red bell pepper is a better choice … than lifting the lid on that sampler box of chocolates, to see what deliciousness awaits.

Brendan

September 19th, 2010
1:49 am

**Friendly Reminder**: Your 2010-11 Atlanta Thrashers budget guesses are due at 11PM, on Monday night, the 20th of September. Just around the corner, really. We had to cut it off at somepoint. And, (other than R.Stroztradamus’ winning guess, which will be made on opening night, based off of the website http://www.capgeek.com,) the 20th of September, at 11PM, is that point of demarcation. I still CANNOT believe that my guess is still the highest one. I never would have believed … that my guess reflects the most amount of belief in the Thrashers ownership. The lowest guess, so far, is $45.1 million, by “Mikey.” The highest guess is made by “Brendan,” at $51.4 million. The purpose of the contest is to estimate how committed you think the Atlanta Spirit, LLC are … towards the Thrashers 2010-11 season. If you think they aren’t trying at all … then the lowest possible guess is $43.4 million, the FLOOR of the salary cap. If you think they’re “committed all the way,” then the highest possible guess is $59.4 million, which reflects the ceiling of the cap. The prediction closest to the actual Thrashers budget, as appearing at http://www.capgeek.com on date of the Thrashers 1st regular season game, will be the winner. No Atlanta Spirit employees are allowed to play. That’d be cheating. R.Stroztradamus will make the winning post after “puck drop” of the 1st regular season Thrashers game.
It’s all meant in good fun. So, if you’re enraged at this point, “Lighten up, Francis.”

Also, Thrasher point totals will come due at “puck drop” on the 1st game of the season as well. To get in on that action, you make a prediction first based on point totals, then “tie-breaker” criteria of finish within the Southeast Division, then Conference Rank. Here’s a sample guess. “89-points, 3rd in Southeast Division, 8th in the Conference.” The first set of tie-breaker criteria is the Southeast Division rank. The second set of tie-breaker criteria is the finish within the Eastern Conference. Last year’s winner was “Pam on Weck,” also known as “Paminski.” The 2009 winner was “Don,” via tie-breaker, over “Glovesave29.” Last year’s budget guess winner was LAC. Good luck to all. It’s prudent idea to delay your point totals guess until the preseason is over, when the roster is set. And all potential trades have concluded. You may change your guess … up until puck drop of the 1st game. After that, all guesses are closed, in fairness to everyone. (It never seems to stop people from trying to enter a guess at Christmas time!!) Best of luck to all the AJC posters in the annual point total contest.

Cornbread

September 19th, 2010
3:05 am

Esposito was my dark-horse pick over both Cormier and Burmistrov. It made more sense to me to bring Espo’s skill in over Cormier and his experience in over Burmistrov. The question was, is he healthy? It appears now he may very well be the 3rd line center with Slater slipping back to fourth and PK minutes. He’s put on good muscle and is better suited in that role than Burmi. He can also move to the second line if needed and that adds depth.

ben

September 19th, 2010
8:23 am

For at least a couple of years this is gonna be an AHL-like team. We might be the pirates of hockey. By that, I mean a team whose owners are trying to lose. Our best hope is that the team is sold and moved out of a place where no one wants to go.

World Be Free

September 19th, 2010
8:35 am

Rawhide, great seeing you Friday night as we tended to our other obligations. You should be very proud.

I think Burmie needs that “another year” in juniors. I am still concerned about his ability to handle the physical nature of the NHL game. Once he is up for 8 games, he cannot go back; I just think he needs a little more seasoning. Boy won’t it be something if Espo could make the move to the big club, when it look like his career was done after 2 knees. So much for questioning his heart, as so many did when he fell like a rock in the draft. Peter Sykora and Zach Parise fell abit too when they were drafted, if I remember correctly.

You may remember back a few weeks ago when the name Nigel Dawes came up as a possible signing. Dawes is a fringe player than made an impression on a few of us, enough to suggest the Thrashers pursue him. Either Duds is reading the blog (we hope) or we are starting to read the type of players he likes, either way Nigel is a Thrasher, one that will stay and contribute in ATL throughout the season. It’s the Rangers and Flames loss.

World Be Free

September 19th, 2010
9:02 am

I was hoping Buff would move to forward, sooner or later. But we could all be persuaded to keep him on defense, if Buff and Hainsey can become an assemblence of the shutdown pair of defenseman this team has never had. That’s a tall order to ask any defensive pair, especially since neither d-man has been considered shutdown during their careers. But if they click well together, you just never know what they could do as a defensive pair. They will be physical.

In a few weeks, I would like to go back to the blog you posted when several of our regular posters dissed the Modin signing. I think alot of our fellow posters are going to discover the value of Freddie Modin, as the season progresses.

Red Light

September 19th, 2010
9:14 am

Nice to see kracker, Zoomo and our gracious host yesterday at the Ice Forum. I had the opportunity to talk informally with Little, Pavelec and Dawes yesterday. Little said that moving back to center is a bit overwhelming because he has spent so much time on the wing. It looks as if Ramsay will try to keep him in the middle for the time being. Little said the responsibilities of a center are much more demanding and it’s more tiring because of those responsibilities. He told me he hasn’t played much at the pivot since playing there exclusively through Junior.

Pavelec is excited about the upcoming season, although he did say that all of the roster changes are tough to get used to. He got to Atlanta about four weeks ago after spending much of the summer at home in the Czech Republic. He said his relationship with Hedberg was very strong, but he likes Mason too and feels both of them will co-exist nicely as a tandem. I can’t help but feel that he recognizes the challenge of winning the No. 1 spot and wants to prove himself as the top netminder this year.

Nigel Dawes said that he is very excited to be in Atlanta and feels he will get an opportunity to prove his value to the team during the next few weeks. He said that the summer was very unsettling, not only to him, but many other veterans who played the waiting game looking for a contract. Interestingly, he said he and his agent never discussed what teams were interested in him because he didn’t want to get his hopes up. But, he is thrilled to have this opportunity and wants to show that he can be more consistent this season.

Freddy Pettersson is a very active player offensively, and as Rammer said, shoots from everywhere. Rammr wants pucks at the net from everywhere, anywhere and some of the drills the team went through yesterday proved that.

So, if you’re thinking about line-ups, put Antro, Pevs and Little at center for now, and if Little stays in the middle, that opens a spot for Pettersson, Modin or Dawes (not necessarily in that order). And by the way, Rissmiller was seen at center too, for those who suggested he wasn’t a center a month ago or so.

kracker

September 19th, 2010
10:52 am

Article: Kovalchuk mess truly a deal with the devil
By Kevin Paul Dupont
September 19, 2010

http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/articles/2010/09/19/kovalchuk_mess_truly_a_deal_with_the_devil/?page=full

World Be Free

September 19th, 2010
11:26 am

Red Light-sounds like we have plenty of talent here already; does this diminish the need to make another deal?

kracker

September 19th, 2010
11:45 am

tweet from Chris – ajcthrashers Nik Antopov and Angelo Esposito not skating today for Thrashers.

Thoughts, anyone? Is this a precaution since both are coming off injury rehab? Nic doesn’t really need to be out there today to be evaluated for other than his medical condition. Espo is in a bit different position since he is either vying for a spot on the team or making an impression for a callup during the season.

My take is that camp is crowded and there’s no reason to over-work either guy on sucessive days this early in camp. Yeah, I know there is a game Tuesday (!) but less than half of those in camp can dress for it. There is Tuesday’s game then three days to practice/evaluate and make early cuts, play again at home Friday and make more cuts on the weekend. Nic and Espo maybe dress for one of the first two games and then they play more heavily in the four games next week. The same goes for Slater, rest his wrist and play him after a week off.

EB

September 19th, 2010
12:42 pm

MUCH rather have Slater on the fourth line and NOT on any other line. I had hoped we were done with signing small guys like Dawes after we tried so hard this off season to limit how many small guys we have on each line to the ones we already had signed to deals. No matter how crafty he is, Dawes will be like all the other small guys we have had in the past, a liability with the puck. It’s just too easy to knock him off the puck, I’d much rather see Aliu, Esposito, and Stewart make the team over Dawes! We also have Rissmiller, Modin, and even Deveaux who could help with their size over Dawes as well. We have quite a few guys under 5-11 already, and we now have a good number of big guys to help protect them when they get smothered by our opponents, but I see no reason to add another 5-8 player. And boy it sure does suck to lose Cormier so soon, if the Thrashers didn’t have bad luck, they wouldn’t have any at all!!

Smoothie

September 19th, 2010
12:42 pm

Brendan – since the deadline is tomorrow and I’ll be golfing and carousing on my vacation, I’ll go ahead and submit a guess for the Opening Night Cap Hit.

I’m going to go with a relatively low figure of $47,250,019.

I think there will be some shuffling around when it comes to the roster, but I don’t expect any big move or trade until after the season starts. I think Rammer and Dudley will decide to see what they’ve got on the first road trip of the season before making any major moves.

To anyone who has posted a report from training camp and does so going forward, BIG, BIG THANKS!!

Go Thrashers!

Flagstaff

September 19th, 2010
12:49 pm

Just shooting in the dark here, but I will go with $46,999,999.

World Be Free

September 19th, 2010
12:54 pm

Brendan, Smoothie-you guys at the game Tuesday?
Anyone else making the preseason opener?
I know kracker is going to be there, would should establish a meeting point.

Brendan

September 19th, 2010
1:12 pm

Smoothie, your buget guess is $19 more than Rawhide’s. Allrightee, then. It’s duly noted.

Brendan

September 19th, 2010
1:14 pm

WBF, I will not be there. I may be at opening night, however.

Brendan

September 19th, 2010
1:16 pm

Kracker, I think it’s just a precaution to sit them. The season is seven months long. And Atlanta must start well out of the gate, to be talking about the playoffs in March.

Brendan

September 19th, 2010
1:27 pm

Red Light, nice player comment interviews. Good stuff.

Flagstaff, your guess is entered at $46,999,999. I think the Thrashers current budget is $46,466,666. If the budget doesn’t change, Flagstaff would be the winner.

Falcons up on the Cardinals, 7-0, in the 1st quarter.

Brendan

September 19th, 2010
1:29 pm

I hope we delay on Burmistrov. But, if he makes it, and does well, then I can’t argue results.

kracker

September 19th, 2010
1:30 pm

Brendan, I will guess an even $50M.

Red Light

September 19th, 2010
1:40 pm

While small in stature, Dawes is very thick with great balance. He’s not easy to knock off the puck. Like Rawhide said, he’s like a fire hydrant.

Deal isn’t necessary, WBF, particularly as you suggest that Modin is ready for a nice rebound and at the current salary could be a huge steal. Questions remain but he’s skating well. Ladd is definitely a top-6 forward on this team and looked in mid-season form yesterday. Still concerned about goal scoring all the way around, but it’s so early it’s tough to project what the lines are going to be, I think we have to just wait and see. Eager has better hands than I expected.

kracker

September 19th, 2010
1:56 pm

I always shudder when I see the “fireplug” description that was used (by Waddell I think) to describe Alex Bourret. Bourret made Todd White look tough.

This is not to disparage Nigel Dawes.

Smoothie

September 19th, 2010
2:14 pm

Brendan – ooops, didn’t know Billy T already selected that amt. Can’t have that! I’ll go with $47,499,019 instead.

Thank you!

kracker

September 19th, 2010
2:23 pm

kracker

September 19th, 2010
2:51 pm

tweet – ajcthrashers Thrashers coach Craig Ramsay says Bryan Little will move back to center. Rich Peverley playing right wing.

Interesting. Antro, Little, Slater at C Who will be the 4th? Kane, Burma?

Smoothie

September 19th, 2010
3:31 pm

Kane-Antro-Bergy

Bergy moves back to his natural position and Kane can play C if Antro needs a break. Antropov can play any fwd position depending on situation.

Laddy-Lits-Pevs

Looks like Rammer wants to get away from players on the off wing to cut down on turnovers. Get the puck deep at all costs and bang!

Modin-Burma/Espo-Freddy P

Rammer loves guys that shoot and hit and both Swedes fit that description. Both Espo and Burma can dish and backcheck. Slates can play 3rd line C as well.

Eager-Slates/Thor-Thor/Dawes

Size, speed, grit and hands on the 4th line. Can present mismatches against other 4th lines and headaches with relentless forecheck pressure. Rissmiler is 4th line C if Burma/Espo don’t eork out and Slates has to play 3rd.

Like it, lots of flexibility depending on opponent, situation, player slumps etc.

Can’t wait for Tues!

Brendan

September 19th, 2010
5:26 pm

Smoothie, your new guess is updated, at $47,499,019. Though, your other okay, since it did differ from Rawhide’s by $19. Speaking of identical picks, however, WBF and Kracker have both selected an even $50 million for the Thrashers salary cap budget this year. If it wins, you’ll share the honors.

The Falcons put a serious crunch on the Cardinals today, 41-7. The best play of the day, however, was the Arizona 80-yard TD run. Sadly, that means that play will get the highlights on SportsCenter.

Brendan

September 19th, 2010
5:27 pm

Very happy to see Little back in the middle again.

Nate

September 19th, 2010
5:38 pm

Brendan – Put me down for $48.2 million in the payroll contest. I’ll get back to you on the points/standings after preseason.

Zoomo

September 19th, 2010
5:47 pm

Nice to see Rawhide, Kracker, and meet Red Light at yesterday’s session. We went back today for some late day action. I can’t add much to the loquacious blogging of Raswhide and Red Light. But, I have to agree that Ladd is a player. Seemed to mesh we’ll with Peverley.

I will say that in this year’s camp we have the greatest Thrasher hairdo of all time – that of Akim Aliu. We saw him shorts and a tee shirt after the B team left the ice…whoa…that do’s a masterpiece!

World Be Free

September 19th, 2010
5:55 pm

Brendan, sorry you will not be there Tuesday, I will miss opening night. Red light, asgree on scoring concerns but I think our team D will be much better this season.

HookyBob

September 19th, 2010
6:05 pm

First things first,…Stroz,..we haven’t heard from ye,… in almost a week. I trust everything is OK?

Second, I was pleased when we signed Nigel Dawes. I’m of the opinion that short players have certian advantages, such as getting to loose pucks quicker, and other things “down low” that, if maximized, are valuable to the team. As for getting knocked off the puck easier, I disagree and point to Marty St Louis, and, for those old enough to remember, JP Parise. Nigel is a Manitoba (western Canada) developed hockey player so I have no concerns about his grit, toughness, hustle, and hockey smarts. Also encouraging to hear the word “crafty” (ie Marty St. Louis) associated with Dawes. I hope he not only makes the team, but contributes significantly.

I’m not sure why but I really like the idea of Pevs and Ladd playing together. If nothing else, I sense these are two smart, hard working players, who compilment each other well and, make each other more effective.

For those of us who stayed tuned alll summer,….training camp is upon us!!!! In Dudley and Ramsay I trust. Its the time of year to Believe in Blueland.

Thrashers27

September 19th, 2010
6:29 pm

HookyBob,

I’m not wanting to bust your chops at all, but I got a good laugh out of your theory about shorter players reaching the puck sooner…If Dawes and Valabik are trying to get to a puck that is on the ice, both of their sticks are at the same elevation, ice level. It’s not like they’re reaching for it with their hands.

Badger Bob

September 19th, 2010
6:34 pm

Brendan put me down for 49,706,166 (add Zajac, subtract one of our bottom 3 salaries). If I had three guesses and looking at the other cap crunch teams, you know I also like 50,566,666 (add Bergeron), and 48,816,666 is a long shot (Hagman). VAN only has Dmen to offer, and NYR has nothing to offer (or nothing they are willing to part with).

I will most certainly hold off on the points prediction until I see the final line up!

Viking

September 19th, 2010
6:49 pm

Brendan,

Budget: $47 688.00

92 points, 2nd in Division, 8th in Conference.

kracker

September 19th, 2010
6:59 pm

Brendan, since WBF already chose $50M, please change my figure to $49,804,723. The last 6 numbers were carefully chosen from Antro, Pevs ans Slates numbers.

kracker

September 19th, 2010
7:02 pm

Viking, that is a rather small budget! Even Stroz doesn’t think the owners are that cheap! :)

Viking

September 19th, 2010
7:33 pm

Kracker, my crystal ball does not see a big expense player in the near future. While I think they might be fairly happy what they got now to choose from, a medium rare player could be coming minus the cost of what we trade away.

According to Brendan, the budget is currently at $46 466 666, so I think a little more than a million more is going to be spent.

World Be Free

September 19th, 2010
9:11 pm

I like round numbers

Brendan

September 19th, 2010
9:17 pm

Viking, remember that the “authority” is not me, but rather http://www.capgeek.com. Then click on the Atlanta Thrashers. We’re using whatever figure appears at that website. For clarification, if you’re using, say … nhlhumbers.com, or some other hockey-related website to make a guess, you need to visit capgeek.com to make a guess in this contest. We’re crowning a winner according to the figure that’s listed there. For example, Rissmiller is listed against our cap. He might not make the team. At all. Not sure if Petterson is there. I don’t think Burmistrov, and what I suppose is his $3.75 million in bonuses is there yet. It would depend if he makes the team. And so forth. I can’t remember if Nigel Dawes is there or not.

Also, let’s not forget there’s an over/under contest going on for Freddy Modin. The bar was set by R.Stroz at 14 goals and 56 games played for the 2010-11 season. If you vote “under,” you’re voting for LESS than 14 goals and LESS than 56 games played. If you vote “over,” you expect Modin to pot 15 or more goals and play in 57 or more games this season for Atlanta. Actually, R.Stroz, did we specify if Modin’s games and goals must all be scored as a Thrasher? For example, if Atlanta trades Modin at the deadline, do the goals and games he gets and plays in count in our contest? I hadn’t thought of that yet. Please weigh-in, R.Stroz. I think Stroz meant, “as a Thrasher.” And what if Modin plays in 57 games, but only scores 9 goals? Is that a successful guess, or not? He did meet the games played requirement.

Viking, your budget guess of $47,688,000 is registered, along with your points totals contest at 92, 2nd in SE, and 8th in the Conference.

Kracker, your revised guess is duly noted at $49,804,723.

Badger Bob, your budget guess is recorded at $47,706,166.

Good luck. And remember, folks, the budget contest is all in good fun. Its purpose is to demonstrate how committed the Atlanta Spirit, LLC is … towards the advancement of the NHL franchise that they own and control. All 30 NHL teams are FORCED to operate within the parameters of $43.4 million to $59.4 million. Currently, the Thrashers are at $46,466,666 in cap hit, per capgeek.com.

Brendan

September 19th, 2010
9:24 pm

Nate, your $48.2 million is also registered.

Curly

September 19th, 2010
9:59 pm

Rawhide – Great blog as usual. I read almost every one, but rarely post.
Brendon – I enjoy your contests. Note… last year I tied for first with Pam on Weck in the points contest with 83 but lost in the tiebreaker. I’ll wait a week or so with my guess this year. For the Cap Budget contest… please enroll me at $46,340,000. I don’t think Rissmiller and Meyer make the opening night roster. I will be pulling for Spencer M. and Freddie the Fly to make it.

Brendan

September 19th, 2010
10:03 pm

Kracker, interesting article by Kevin Paul Dupont. He laid it on a little thick, not that it wasn’t worth reading. Dupont made it appear that the Devils also gave up a 2nd round pick, in addition to Cormier, Bergfors, Oduya, and a 1st rounder. I believe that the Thrashers and Devils merely swapped draft positions in the 2nd round, something actually benefitting New Jersey. In the end, I still don’t think the NHL fixed the problem of dollar cost averaging contracts. All they did was set a limitation of contracts past 40. And really, weren’t Kovy’s age 40-44 already set at the league minimum salary? $100 million over 15 years is an abberation of what Kovalchuk’s true market value is/would be. The way to fix everything is … whatever the player’s salary is … is what counts against the cap. Which is something Red Light’s been saying for quite a while now. Tavares’ RFA deal might wind up being 20 years. And the last two, paying him until he’s 42, would just be at the league minimum anyway. Ooooh, scaaary. What NHL franchise couldn’t afford the MINIMUM salary for such a player. Pfft. I think the NBA has a rule … that you can pay a player pretty much whatever you want, but the limit is 7 years.

Curly

September 19th, 2010
10:12 pm

Brendan – I Agree. The yearly cap hit should be whatever the salary is that year. No chance for any cap circumvention with this principle.

Brendan

September 19th, 2010
10:13 pm

Curly, thanks. Best of luck to you again in both contests. Your budget guess is noted at $46,340,000. Tie-breakers are important in the point totals contest. In some years, we had 5 or more posters with the same point total guess. So, those tie-breakers do come into play. I flirted with adding a third tie-breaker of “Thrasher wins,” but decided against it. If we get absolutely identical picks, we’ll just have multiple winners.