Thrashers newcomers have ‘been there, done that’

So what do Jimmy Slater and Eric Boulton have in common? Well for one thing, they are the only two players that remain on the Thrashers 2007 playoff roster. The pair were held without a goal or assists in the four game sweep to the Rangers and were a combined –3.

Since then, we’ve seen the other twenty or so players depart Thrasherville, including Ilya Kovalchuk, Slava Kozlov, Kari Lehtonen and Garnet Exelby in the last 14 months.

But Boulton and Slater will be surrounded this season by a number of players who have “been there, done that” in regards to the Stanley Cup Playoffs… a total of 365 collective NHL playoff games in fact. Add that to the 8 between Bolts and Slates, and what you have a roster that could represent a grand total of 373 NHL playoff games worth of experience.

Upon learning that number, I set out to see if there were any rosters of Thrashers-past that compared to the one assembled now. To be honest, I thought I would have to make my way back four or five years in order to find a squad with near as many playoff games under their collective belts…back to the 2005-06 or 2006-07 teams that consisted of Marian Hossa, Peter Bondra, Greg DeVries, Nic Havelid and Kozlov just to name a few.

As it turns out, I only had to go back twelve months.

The Thrashers entered last season with a group of players that had suited up for 370 NHL playoff games in their careers. And that’s not counting the two that Kari Lehtonen started in 2007 given the fact that Kari began last season on injured reserve. He did not play in a single game for Atlanta before being traded to Dallas in January.

However, almost one-third of those 370 games belonged to just one player, Slava Kozlov who played in 118 during his long NHL career. All but four of which came while wearing Detroit’s red winged wheel. Maxim Afinogenov and Pavel Kubina took with them another 87 career playoff appearances.

Now the Thrashers’ leader in playoff game experience is defenseman Brent Sopel with 64. Then there is Freddy Modin with 57 and Andrew Ladd with 53. Add in Dustin Byfuglien’s 39 playoff appearance, Ben Eager’s 37, Nic Antropov’s 35 and Chris Rissmiller’s 30, and you can see the Thrashers have a decent amount of players who have “been there, done that” when it comes to participating in the annual hunt for Lord Stanley’s Cup.

Buff, Ben and Brent won the Stanley Cup just last June along with Ladd. For Ladd it was the second time skating the Cup, his first being in 2006 with the Carolina Hurricanes. Freddy Modin was a part of the 2004 Cup winning Tampa Bay Lightning, making it a total of five Thrashers players who not only have “been, there, done that” but have their name etched upon the Cup to show it.

Brent Sopel kissed the Stanley Cup last June. His 64 career NHL playoff games now leads all others on the Thrashers roster (AP Photo)

Brent Sopel kissed the Stanley Cup last June. His 64 career NHL playoff games now leads all others on the Thrashers roster (AP Photo)

Another big difference can be found behind the bench. New head coach Craig Ramsay has experienced not only 89 playoff games as a player, but he’s also seen significant action as an assistant coach for NHL teams in the playoffs. He sipped Champagne from the Cup in 2004 along with Modin and the rest of the Lightning.

Last year the Thrashers had a coach who had played in 37 NHL postseason games. Prior to that they had a coach in Bob Hartley who had coached the Colorado Avalanche to a Stanley Cup championship in 2001. But this will be the first time they have ever had a bench boss who has played in and coached during the NHL playoffs. They also have an associate coach, John Torchetti, who won an NHL championship, coming to Thrasherville after last spring’s successful run with Byfuglien, Sopel, Eager, Ladd and the rest of the Chicago Blackhawks.

Also worth mentioning is assistant coach Mike Stothers who played in five NHL playoff games as a member of the Philadelphia Flyers back in the 1980s.

The question is, can this collection of players and coaches who have “been there, done that, got my name on the Cup to show for it” make a difference for those Thrasher players who have not done so yet? Can players like Evander Kane, Zach Bogosian, Toby Enstrom and possibly a handful of rookies like Arturs Kulda and Patrice Cormier benefit from their experiences should the Thrashers find themselves in a playoff push or…dare I mention it…playing past the scheduled 82 games?

These are the answers that will be revealed as the Thrashers 11th season finally gets underway next month. But going into it, the organization is deeper than it’s ever been in regards to those bringing with them previous experience…and success… playing in games 83 and beyond, both at the playing level as well as coaching.

And that certainly can’t hurt.

162 comments Add your comment

Smoothie

September 13th, 2010
2:57 pm

Joe – I hear ya man. I’d gladly take on Arnott, and even give up Peverley, for a chance at Parise. He is sick. The thought of him crashing the net with Antro feeding and Kane driving the other side makes me drool uncontrollably. But alas I don’t think Parise will be available as Arnott’s salary relief next year should be enough to get him done at $7 M / year. Of course Lou Lam risks losing Langenbrunner if he does that. Interesting scenarios indeed. I wonder how Brian Rolston feels about playing in Albany, NY this season for his $5 M.

kracker

September 13th, 2010
2:59 pm

They’re [NJ] not going to be able to pay Parise what he’ll demand next summer so might as well move him now and get value back in return (what smart GMs do, and Sweet Lou is smart).

Dudley is smart, too, so no way he does this w/o first) having the green light to spend Kovy-type money for a guy he is second) sure that will sign here. Considering that, I have to say no, this is not a good trade for Atlanta. I really like Pevs for what he costs.

Smoothie

September 13th, 2010
3:08 pm

kracker – you do realize Parise is a better player than Kovy, Pevs or anyone else we have for that matter? Not that I expect Lou to ever entertain trading Parise, but he has 2 seasons with 80+ points and 4 seasons with 30+ goals. His caliber of player doesn’t come around very often and he will likely get Scott Gomez money at the very least.

You know, there may be a way to entice Lou into another trade without having to sacrifice Peverley. They need to think ahead to re-stock and re-tool their blueline and they seem to be a bit short on talented D-man prospects. Perhaps a Postma, along with Esposito if he shows well at camp, could be enough to entice Lou into trading Zajac?

kracker

September 13th, 2010
3:22 pm

On paper, sure anybody would love to have a Parise. But real world, and leaving the other GMs out of it, I don’t think we have a chance in you know what of getting a bonafide #1 anything to (re)sign here without first having demonstrated that the program is on a winning path. Maybe we get lucky and an RFA Bergfors is here long enough to like the city and sees that the youth is maturing and wants to grow with it. For a Parise, I just don’t know if it would work out to get him resigned.

That’s why I see us as trying to emulate the Preds success, with the extra draw of a larger, more cosmopolitan city with a bigger corporate base.

Smoothie

September 13th, 2010
3:26 pm

I certainly understand your fear when it comes to convincing players to sign here long-term. At least Parise is an RFA one last time. But yeah, it might be a tough sell getting him to sign more than 1 year going into the new CBA negotiations in 2012.

kracker

September 13th, 2010
3:36 pm

Oh, yeah, the expiring CBA. There’s another thing to muck up everything!!

Frankly, I don’t see how DW lasted as long as he did here w/o blowing his brains out. (Be nice, folks!) I mean, if you add his screw ups to all the things that happened that were not in his fault….

swede

September 13th, 2010
3:55 pm

Here is what Bergfors agent had to say: – We had hoped for a bit longer contract. But now, we still chose to run a year, so we go back in a year, “said agent Peter Werner Bergfors to HockeyExpressen.se.
- We are verbally agreed and are just waiting for that contract will come, “says Niclas Bergfors agent, Peter Werner HockeyExpressen.se.
- It has taken time for the hearing, we obviously had different views on Niclas value. But while Niclas said that he is hockey player and his only dream is to play hockey. He does not want to risk anything before this season, “said agent Peter Werner on the agreement.

Zombie Steve

September 13th, 2010
4:00 pm

no way we’re getting Parise….

kracker

September 13th, 2010
4:02 pm

Besides, we already have a ‘Zach’ player.

Ooook, so let’s get that contract over to Sweden or wherever Nic and his agnet are so he can get to camp by Friday.

Red Light

September 13th, 2010
4:03 pm

Personally, just to watch Parise play from Oct. 8 to the trading deadline is worth Peverley, Bergfors and two mid-round draft picks, and if they want to toss in Arnott for a year, I’ll gladly watch him too.

Yes, I’m only partially serious, but he is a great player and Arnott has Cup pedigree (Cup winning goal against Dallas for Jersey)!

Smoothie

September 13th, 2010
4:08 pm

swede – thanks for the post! we appreciate the info we get from our friends from the Norse! keep it coming if they’re are any additional quotes from Nick or his agent. Sound like he will be very motivated at the very least. That is one good by-product of Duds’ strategy. If he is truly serious about icing a team of guys who bring it every night and bring it hard, then what better way to weed them out than to have an open competition with a bunch of hungry guys on 1-year contracts?

I do hope this strategy pays serious dividends, this year and beyond!

Toby

September 13th, 2010
4:38 pm

“Just don’t understand why we wouldn’t try to avoid ARB for a player that was supposedly the center-piece of the Kovy deal. Now watch him score 25 goals and get an award of $3.5 M / year when we should have locked him up for 2 years and $4.5 M TOTAL.”

So….You’re not happy because Bergie might pot 25 goals and get paid for it?! It’s still a contract year for the future RFA. Make him work for his $$$. If he gets us a lot of goals, then both sides win. This is a great signing.

Smoothie

September 13th, 2010
5:12 pm

Who said I’m not happy? I’d be even happier if Bergy was locked up two years? Is that so much ask? Instead, we get to go to ARB again! Have we signed anyone in the last 3 yrs for more than 1 year coming out of arbitration?

The only pro-active contracts we’ve done are Little, Enstrom and Peverley, but as a UFA, I don’t really count his. But I give credit to D-Wad for being proactive, for a change. Yeah I said it. Good job Don.

Smitty

September 13th, 2010
7:27 pm

They just threw the book at the Devils. $3 Mil fine. Loss of one 1st round pick over next 4 years and I think loss of a second or third round pick.

HookyBob

September 13th, 2010
7:41 pm

Bergie is heading into his sophomore year. Duds may be playing the odds. All the while he has a player incentivised to prove him wrong, earn a bigger contract next year, and is a good value asset for trading partners.

My hopes are that Bergie beats the slump year, proves Duds wrong, doesn’t get traded, and he signs for about Hornqvist did.

kracker

September 13th, 2010
7:59 pm

Yes, Smitty is right!!

tweet – TSNBobMcKenzie NHL release now out: $3M fine, the max, plus a first rder in one of next four years and 3rd rder in 2011.

Jack

September 13th, 2010
8:16 pm

So sorry to hear about the Devils, may have to go into counseling for depression. Where do I send the sympathy card. :)

Jethro

September 13th, 2010
8:33 pm

Them devils dun got whut they deeserved.

Hockey Biltong

September 13th, 2010
8:36 pm

Trixie! Behave yourself…..

kracker

September 13th, 2010
9:27 pm

I was wondering how NJ losing the 1st rounder was to be determined.

tweet – TSNBobMcKenzie The Devils must inform the NHL one day after the Stanley Cup final in the year they choose to surrender the first rounder.

Wait…the SC final is after the entry draft. So he means they give up the following year’s 1st rounder, I am guessing.

Brendan

September 14th, 2010
1:53 am

The Stanley Cup Finals, generally speaking, is concluded in the 1st or 2nd week of June. The Draft is usually around the 20th of June, in the 3rd week. I question why the league gives the Devils the “choice” of what year they want to sacrifice their 1st rounder. It should be right now, for the 2011 Draft, irrespective of the results of the 2010-11 season. If the Devils think they have a Cup-winning roster assembled, then the 30th overall pick is the best pick to sacrifice.

Brendan

September 14th, 2010
2:00 am

Rawhide, the posters comments, today, have been among the best I’ve ever read. This is the truly the evolution of your site. Gone, are the days of, “Let’s trade J.P. Vigier, Serge Aubin, Ronald Petrovicky, and our 1st and 2nd round picks to Pittsburgh for Sidney Crosby.” Just re-read all the comments today. (1) Knowlege of the CBA, (arbitration rights, Jan. 1 for re-signing players on a 1-year deal) (2) budget management (salary cap), (3) RFA vs. UFA strategies/budget, (4) trade scenarios that are intriguing. I tells ya, it’s been a veritable pleasure to read all these intelligent comments. I bet if/when Red Wing, Leaf, Canuck, Devils, Flyers fans come here, they’re, surprised, at the level of discussion taking place. You posters are making the site better. The bickering has been minimal. No name calling, today. All clear signs of advancement. No trolls. This is the way a good blog should be. Truly.

Brendan

September 14th, 2010
2:47 am

Joe Friday, right on the money, all day long. I like your trade scenario, Arnott and Parise for Peverley and Bergfors. I never allowed myself to contemplate Parise, just because he is so “untouchable” in terms of my thinking. I consider myself a fool to DREAM about Travis Zajac, much less Parise, in Thrasher blue. And Lou loves this guy. In his draft year, Lou moved up 4-5 spots to cough up some latter round picks to get him. I can’t imagine a scenario when Sweet Lou would trade him, before he hits his prime. Unless Parise wants to leave NJ, I think he’ll remain there for quite some time. Lou will find a way to keep Parise and Kovalchuk together. With the NHL cookin’ its books, saying they MADE MONEY in a bad economy, to GROW the cap?? Yeah, the budgets will keep getting bigger, ARTIFICALLY, and Lou will keep his players. New Jersey is essentially the New York City market. Therefore, the Commissioner’s office has a vested interest in its continued prosperity. Gotta have those “big markets” (NY/NJ, Detroit, Boston, Chicago, Montreal, Los Angeles) going DEEP into the playoffs, to get the TV-ratings. For Years, I tried to tell people what a big-time hockey market Chicago was, if the Commissioner would just step-in to fix it. Well, Wirtz died, and the philosophy about running that team changed. And voila! Stanley Cup within 3 years. Best TV-ratings in the Finals in how long??? I’m happy for the Blackhawks, truthfully. Forty-nine (49) years is a long time to wait, for an “original six” market.

I’d still do the Joe Friday-proposed deal if it were Arnott and Zajac for Bergfors and Peverley. I’m not thrilled to have a soon-to-be 36 year old Arnott, even if he is a good and well-accomplished player, because in my way of thinking … I just don’t want players past the age of 35 … because they become highly susceptible to injury, and slow down, in a league that emphasizes youth and speed. But if it brings 25-year old Zajac, under contract for 3 more seasons, it might well be worth it. I think Peverley did a 2-year deal, right? I really should research that before posting, but I’m too lazy right now. And Bergfors only committed to 1-year, at $900K. Great value, for Bergfors, I must say. This is close to his qualifying offer, which we discussed previously. But I’m with Smoothie in thinking that this is a $1.5 million player. I’m surprised Bergie came this cheaply! Unless there’s an unannounced deal pending, effectively making this a sign-n-trade, (Oh God! Here comes Brian, the troll!!!) then I am truly stunned by this value. Anywho, the player under contract for the longest period of time would be Zajac. Arnott and Bergie are 1-year dealies, though Bergfors would still be an RFA, and that’s important for NJ. Peverley was a waiver wire claim that “jumped” at a mid-season deal, that substantively underpaid him for the numbers he had. I think NJ would do well to acquire both players as salary relief. I mean, Bergfors and Peverley are decent. The trouble is coughing up Zajac. That hurts NJ. But, it is salary relief. Arnott makes $4.5 million and Zajac $3.5 million, next season. That’s $8 million, folks. Zajac will cost $4.5 million in 2012 and $4.8 million in 2013. Parise makes $5.0 million this year, and will be an RFA at season’s end. Would Parise even entertain the idea of re-upping with the Thrashers longterm? I’m unclear as to whether Parise would still be an RFA in 2013. This season will mark his 4th in the NHL. He is 25. I believe he can become unrestricted at age 27, which is two years from now. But I’ve not verified his exact birthday to know for sure. My guess is … he’s a UFA in 2013. My feeling is … neither Zajac nor Parise would sign their UFA years with Atlanta, unless Atlanta had “committed ownership” for pursuing the Cup.

Rhythmpenguin

September 14th, 2010
6:43 am

Great thoughts by all! What about other cap strapped teams besides NJ? Boston? Vancouver? Calgary? What would we want from them and what might they give up?

I would be very sad to see Pevs leave.

kracker

September 14th, 2010
7:48 am

Putting it all together: To get Kovalchuk, Salmela and a 2nd, NJ gives up Bergfors, Oduya, Cormier, 2-1sts, a 2nd, a 3rd, $3M in a fine and a $100M 15 year contract.

Not to mention all they lose in reputation as being a bit diminished as a 1st class organization, at least im my mind.

Wow! That’s one hefty price for a -75 player. However, I do expect that minus number to eventually change to a positive for Kovalchuk due to the strength of the Devils system. Kovy was a +9 w/ the Devils…and also a +1 (for the first time ever) w/ the Thrashers last season.

kracker

September 14th, 2010
7:56 am

help Trixie! (Unless the blogmaster is about to post a newr blog, then I will just post it there)

glovesave29

September 14th, 2010
8:40 am

” Edmonton in the fifth round (157th overall). Pettersson, 23, spent two years with the Oilers’ AHL affiliate Calgary Hitmen”

This is why I read here and not C-Viv. Bill, you just do a better job doing the research. The Calgary Hitmen are a Major Junior team. The Oilers farm team is currently the Oklahoma City Barons, and has recently been the Springfield Falcons and the Edmonton Roadrunners (moved there to fill the hockey needs during the lock out).

Nickpicking – maybe. But asking a reporter to get the facts right is not really asking that much.

glovesave29

September 14th, 2010
8:46 am

Interesting – Edmonton is not inviting Sheldon Souray to camp…

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=333711

Darkhorse

September 14th, 2010
8:59 am

I’m still of the thought another big deal to bring in a top 6, maybe top 3 forward is on Dudley’s wish list. While, as a Thrashers fan, I would love to see Parise, and do think we have the reasonable assets to give up for him, Lou won’t do it. Lucic, Iginla, Wheeler would all be great pipe dreams as well. Doubt any of those guys are availible, but it doesn’t hurt for Dudley to try. But here is the list of our top prospects from Hockeyfutures. Don’t you guys think there is enough talent and depth here that one of these prospects, plus a lower round pick or two, and an inexpensive roster player like Bergfors, Valabik, Pevs(don’t want to see him go either), or other can get you a top 3 forward?

Alexander Burmistrov, C
Carl Klingberg, LW
Patrice Cormier, C
Spencer Machacek, RW
Arturs Kulda, D
Eric O’Dell, C
Paul Postma, D
Angelo Esposito, C
Akim Aliu, RW
Daultan Leveille, C
Julian Melchiori, D
Ivan Telegin, C
Vinny Saponari, RW
Alex Kangas, G
Edward Pasquale, G
John Albert, C
Jordan Samuels-Thomas, LW
Fredrik Pettersson, LW
Zach Redmond, D
Danick Paquette, RW
Jimmy Bubnick, RW
Chris Carrozzi, G
Ben Chiarot, D
Yasin Cisse, RW
Michael Forney, LW
Riley Holzapfel, C
Levko Koper, LW
Andrew Kozek, RW
Tanner Lane, C
Nicklas Lasu, LW
Jesse Martin, C
Kendall McFaull, D
Will O’Neill, D
Sebastian Owuya, D
Fredrik Pettersson-Wentzel, G
Cody Sol, D
Peter Stoykewych, D
Andrei Zubarev, D

kracker

September 14th, 2010
9:20 am

I don’t know the details, glovesave, but apparently Souray was really badmouthing the Oil organization. They are done with him.

glovesave29

September 14th, 2010
9:27 am

Kracker – The Oilers are on the hook for $5M per year. Better figure something out as there will not be many interested in him at that price.

World Be Free

September 14th, 2010
10:01 am

Glovesave / on Souray-
Therein lies one of the differences between hockey and other sports. In other sports, when a player opens his big mouth (like Randy Moss or half the guys in the NBA) teams dismiss or tolerate the stupid comments. In hockey, say something stupid and you either get your brains beat in (at some point) or you are dispatched like Souray. I hope he rides the buses all season in the minors.

Smoothie

September 14th, 2010
10:05 am

RE: Souray, I guess they will waive him and hope that some desperate GM will pluck him off of re-entry waivers for 1/2 price? $2.5 M might be reasonable for some teams, but there aren’t very many big-spending teams left who aren’t up against the cap. Tough situation. Ha ha!

GaVaHokie

September 14th, 2010
10:16 am

Bergie’s deal falls in line with all the other recent RFA signings… you guys are the ones over-valuing him at $3 million a year. Theres a fine line between cheap and being a sucker. If I’m Dudley, I’m happy to take him to arbitration next year. Either he’s worth the award or he isn’t.

Smoothie

September 14th, 2010
10:31 am

Hokie, who’s advocating payingh him over $3 M per year? I haven’t seen anyone say he’s worth more than $2.25 – 2.5 M per at this point. The best comparable out there is Cogliano who got 2 yrs / $4 M with a $1.5 and $2.5 M spread. There you go, easy as pie.

Jethro

September 14th, 2010
10:37 am

Hokie, you been doin sum tokien?

rob

September 14th, 2010
10:50 am

OK, so we beat all this over and over and still no resolve. Vivs has brought up a good point, which falls right into the start of this blog.

Does anyone have a problem with the number of guys coming to camp and what it could mean to some of our higher up prospects? Do you think this pushes them that much harder, or maybe discourages them a bit, especially guys like Kulda who seemed assured of finally getting a serious shot after all the hard work in the minors. Duds himself said some of them are getting nervous over all the recent signings. Does this make them hold the stick a little too tight, trying to be perfect instead of allowing them to focus on their game? Or is it maybe good because of the guidance they may get from the vets?
I guess I could see both sides but I was a little more excited about finally seeing some of these guys get their shot, and now I wonder if that is smoke? Season hasn’t started yet but it is getting closer…

GaVaHokie

September 14th, 2010
11:07 am

Smoothie… $2 million, $2.5 million, whatever… I’m pretty sure I saw someone say $3. It’s hard to research from my couch with a baby on my lap with an iPhone.

If you go back to Rawhide’s “Looks like we made it” blog. That’s where Tilly suggested $2-2.5million, and I said that was way over. The price was probably between $800,000 and $1.2 mill, and that’s when you and several others called crazy. ;)

GaVaHokie

September 14th, 2010
11:20 am

Cogliano is not comparable because he’s played three full seasons, same with Mueller.

If Bergfors falls off his number
s the next two seasons, he’ll be signing $1 and $1.2 million deals just like those guys.

glovesave29

September 14th, 2010
11:31 am

WBF – Souray at $2.5M…not such a bad deal. He may get sent down if no one gets him on waivers, but he still gets to cash that big check every week as he has a one-way contract.

kracker

September 14th, 2010
11:35 am

Hokie, I seems to me that Berg is under a million because it is only a one year deal. For a 3-5 year deal (which isn’t warranted at this point, imo, two or maybe three was warranted) his asking figure would have been somewhat higher and escalating for the out years. Whatever it was was more than Dudley was willing to go.

I am fine with Bergy manning up and saying he will earn it in the upcoming season. He could have done a Peverley (who is married and had a new baby or one coming at the time) and signed a modest Peverley-sized two-year contract, which is probably about what Dudley offered. (That would have been my preference as well, from a team standpoint)

Bergfors is arb eligible next season so he is putting his next contract out there on the ice. Good. I expect him to have a big year, 30+ goals, maybe 35+.

Smoothie

September 14th, 2010
11:43 am

GVH – apologies as I was confusing Cogliano and Gagner, can’t ever keep those two straight. But it was actually Mueller who got the 2 years and $4 M. Even with a history of concussions Mueller got $4 M from COL, who also committed $5.75 M over 2 years to the 1-year wonder Chris Stewart. Yeah, he has 2 seasons under his belt, but the first was hardly what I would consider a break-out year.

My bigger point is that based on a) what the player has produced — his .26 goals per game is higher than Mueller, Cogliano and Gagner — for you b) what he means to your top 6 as a crucial piece in the Kovy deal and c) his perception as a top talent (see his All-Rookie Team selection), it does not seem like a stretch to commit $4 – $4.5 M over 2 years to player who projects to be a 25 goal scorer (at least) in your top 6. Where is the risk in paying him even $5 M for two years when you have time to assess your other young players before giving them big raises. Yeah, Bogo is up for renewal next year, but as a D-man with goal-scoring ability, they already know they’ll have to ante-up big to lock him up long-term.

And only Cogliano fits the description of a player who has failed to maintain his perception as a burgeoning young player with upside. Not to mention EDM has guys like Hall, MPS and Eberle who figure to be even better. No wonder they didn’t commit anymore to Cogliano. Looks like the writing is on the wall for him. But Stewart, Mueller and Gagner all got more than $2 M per year. Bergy should get at least $1.5 M / year and you can make a case for low $2’s. That’s all I was saying.

World Be Free

September 14th, 2010
12:12 pm

Glovesave-I don’t know on Souray.
Once a player becomes a malcontent in this league, his reputation follows him wherever he goes. The news of him being unhappy in Edmonton is not news, he had issues last season before he got hurt. Souray has an attitude, he makes alotta money and gets hurt more often these days. We have to remember he chose Edmonton as a UFA and took the money, as he will for the balance of his contract. As a player, he has a great shot from the point, but is a defensive liability in his own zone. 2.5M isn’t the kinda money a low budget team can afford to waste on a guy who may poison your locker room if he doesn’t get his own way. Dudley has no patience for veterans that need rookie tenderness.

I’d pass on Souray.

World Be Free

September 14th, 2010
12:17 pm

Help me Trixie-

Not sure how much I would have paid Bergfors, all I know is that I wanted to see a 3 year deal to show the players and fans there is a long term commitment. I think Bergie is going to have a great year, which will force us to PAY him at the end of the season. Makes sense to make the 3 year, good dollar commitment now. We’ll see where this goes.

And I would take Cogliano tomorrow

Alan R.

September 14th, 2010
12:32 pm

I think Bergie is going to have a great year, which will force us to PAY him at the end of the season.

And? I think that’s a GOOD THING™, for both player and team.

World Be Free

September 14th, 2010
12:46 pm

Alan R-I would rather be proactive now and not leave the dollar decision to an arbitrator later.

Tom Lysiak

September 14th, 2010
1:40 pm

WBF – not disagreeing with you at all. But, until Dudley proves me wrong, I have to believe he knows how the game is played. He knows the exact budget and how much room he has, including possible deals he wants to make. He may be loading up for the trade many have mentioned, or just be building the team he wants within his budget constraints. I do know this though, it is a tough job. Had he signed him for 3 yrs, $7 million and he tanks, he would be crucified for overpaying. So, it’s lose…either way he goes.

kracker

September 14th, 2010
1:44 pm

tweet – BenThrashers Freddy Modin will wear #19 with the Thrashers. Nigel Dawes is #15.

Smoothie

September 14th, 2010
1:48 pm

Well, Modin will enjoy the fact that I’m wearing his number at the games this year. Nevermind the fact it says ‘Reasoner’ on the back, but it shares 2 of the same letters! Hopefully Dawes can put some of the good luck back in that #15 sweater.

Alan R.

September 14th, 2010
3:11 pm

WBF – I’m not sure where the whole arbitrator thing comes in. Bergfors wanted long term with big money, and the organization and player couldn’t come to terms what Bergfors’ future value actually is. A nice solution here is to force the player to prove his worth. If he does, I imagine he will reap the rewards in the end.

I just think everyone is making a lot out of absolutely nothing at all.