Do the Thrashers still need another top-six forward?

I’m quite sure that upon reading the question posed in today’s header, most of you already answered the enquiry out loud. And I’m certain it was phrased something like… “Do we need another winger for one of the top two lines? Well, yeah…DUH, Rawhide”!

Nik Antropov scored 24 goals for the Thrashers as the top-line center last season (AP Photo)

Nik Antropov scored 24 goals, 43 assists and was a +13 as the Thrashers top-line center last season (AP Photo)

Uh-huh…and maybe there were a few other special words strategically placed as well.

But let’s take a look at this for just a second. Right now the top two lines that could be rolled out October 8 could possibly consist of Nik Antropov centering Nic Bergfors and Bryan Little as well as Rich Peverley in between Dustin Byfuglien and Evander Kane.

So…which one of those players isn’t worthy of top-six status? I’m sure that debate will be waged in the comment section below.

Regardless, there are a couple of issues here to take into consideration. First of which is that Bergie is still yet unsigned. When the RFA and the Thrashers will come to terms is anyone’s guess. Then you also have the whole “Byfuglien could play on defense” thingy that’s been floated out there by Mr. Dudley. Take either of those two players out of the equation then I join the chorus of those calling for a deal to bring in another winger.

Could Andrew Ladd be called upon to fill a possible void if Bergfors holds out? Sure, sure. The former Blackhawk has netted 32 goals, 87 overall points and was a +28 in the past two seasons in Chicago. As an added bonus, he’s played in all 164 games during that time as well, so health issue doubts don’t circle around him.

Boris Valabik may find the Thrashers blueline too crowded if Dustin Byfuglien plays defense (AP photo/Gregory Smith)

Boris Valabik may find the Thrashers blueline too crowded if Dustin Byfuglien plays defense (AP photo/Gregory Smith)

But I’m looking for Ladd to join Slater and Fredrik Modin/Spencer Machacek/Fredrik Pettersson on the third line, depending on who impresses most during training camp and preseason. If so…coupled with a possible fourth line of Patrice Cormier, Ben Eager and Eric Boulton…then your odd man out might just be Chris Thorburn, who could then be used as trade bait.

Now, if Big Buff is tapped to play back, then that creates a bit of a crowd on the blueline. He would join Ron Hainsey, Toby Enstrom, Zach Bogosian, Johnny Oduya, Brent Sopel and Boris Valabik there. That’s seven, leaving no room at the inn for Arturs Kulda.

I don’t know about you, but I want Kulda up here this fall.

Somehow, I think Dudley and Co. do too. If Byfuglien does indeed wind up joining the Thrashers’ defensive corps, I would imagine it was because the team was able to package up Valabik with [insert name of any of the handful of two-way players that have been acquired recently here] to bring in that much sought after top-six forward.

I’m not ‘down’ on Boris, mind you. I see a lot of upside to his game…heck, there is a lot of up side that comes in a 6’-7” 245 lb frame. Plus, he’s also cut down on his propensity to commit the untimely penalty. During last year’s injury-shortened season, he earned 36 penalty minutes in 23 games played, (1.56 PIM per game). This is an improvement on the 2.64 PIM per game the year before that and 6 PIM per game during seven games played in the 2006-07 season.

Do the Thrashers need to add another top-six forward to the roster?

  • Yes! They're doomed without it (53%, 80 Votes)
  • Maybe. If the price is right (41%, 62 Votes)
  • No! They look good 'as is' (6%, 8 Votes)

Total Voters: 150

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But if given the choice between Valabik and Kulda right now…I’d choose Kulda.

So returning to the question of if we need another top-six forward, my answer is “it depends”. If a deal could be made to procure one at the cost of a Boris Valabik and/or Chris Thorburn along with…oh, say…a Nigel Dawes or Patrick Rissmiller type of player, then I think Dudley would entertain the discussion. Same true if a deal can be worked to ship Bergfors to a place he’s be happy to ink a deal with in return for a signed winger of similar quality.

But if any the price is too high… I’d venture to guess they’d keep Buff on the forward line while Kulda and Valabik compete with Freddy Meyer to round out the seven man defensive group. Then allow prospects like Cormier, Machacek and Pettersson to do battle with Dawes for the remaining spots on the forward lines.

That should make for a very interesting training camp.

181 comments Add your comment

World Be Free

September 10th, 2010
11:32 am

Wheeler refused the Yotes in a possible trade last year?
Buff on D-let’s just see what happens. I still say he will be a forward at some point in the season, sooner or laster.

GaVaHokie

September 10th, 2010
11:39 am

My only concern with Buff on Defense is ice time… for him to be on the ice, you have to take ice time away from Bogosian, Enstrom, Oduya and Hainsey.

You’d think they’d be better served taking that time away from the bottom two forward lines.

World Be Free

September 10th, 2010
11:41 am

kracker-I think Rammer is saying that someone will have to earn the “C”, in his eyes not based on past performance. I do not know this for sure, just a hunch.

World Be Free

September 10th, 2010
11:46 am

The rumored odd man out of New Jersey is Dainius Zubrus – no thanks!
But I would look at Andrew Cogliano out of Edmonton. Good playmaker.

Thoughts anyone?

five hole

September 10th, 2010
11:47 am

Alan R. I had already counted Cormier on my roster. If, as you said, Burmistrov is here for a cup of coffee, then we are a legitimate top-6 short.

We also have a glut at defense. Not disagreeing with Bill’s preference of Kudla over Valabik, but Boris has a contract paying him to be here.. Could we send him down? Someone with more knowledge of Valabik’s years of service as it relates to sending them to the AHL might chime in. Anyway, someone on the back line (Hainsey?) may have to be moved. I doubt if we trade Enstrom, Bogosian, Odouya or Sopel.

lemon drop the gloves

September 10th, 2010
11:48 am

successful teams in any sport develop and utilize players from within thier own systems. glad to see rawhide recognizes that kulda should stay. duds said he was one of the +/- leaders in ahl last year. he WAS the leader beating out pk subban the last weekend of the season with a plus 46 even when finishing season with thrash having strong games against washington and pittsburgh. he is a pk specialist and very sound technically. he is a quiet – junkyard dog type that would be a luxury to have as a 5th or 6th d-man at bargain price. bergfors will sign and buff will be a forward. thus, top six is set. no doubt duds is in a position of strength to make additional moves with cap-strapped teams if he is inclined to deal further. i’m thinking he is. definetely a logjam for 3rd and 4th line spots. i’m, enjoying the suspense of how the season opening roster will be set. someone will get rocked in camp in literal fight for a spot. who will it be?

ChippersLoveChild

September 10th, 2010
12:01 pm

Berg= 25 goals
Antro= 25 goals
Little= 25 goals
Kane= 20 goals
Pevs= 20 goals
Thorsy= 15 goals
Modin= 12 goals
Slates= 10 goals
Ladd= 18 goals

Wasn’t the 24 goals Antro netted last year his career high? Why would he get 25 this year. I loved what Antro gave us last year, but in my opinion his play is going to drop off just a little from last season. I’d love to think the guys can put up those types of numbers, but I’m just not buying it. I really, truly think we are going to be hurting for goals, regardless of whether or not we get more production from guys like Kane and Little this season. You can stockpile all the third and fourth liners you want, but the fact is that we need at least one more top six… and with Buff moving to defense I can’t see us not making some type of trade now. Hopefully that comes sooner rather than later.

World Be Free

September 10th, 2010
12:01 pm

five hole-I’d like to move Hainsey too, but nobody will take his contract. we overpaid him to come here. I have nothing against Ron, but we do have a body too many in back.
lemons-I too want to give an opportunity to one of our youngsters, it’s a great idea. I think our only problem is our desperation to win. It may take a veteran body to win sooner. I’ll leave that to Dudley.
Good to have Darkhorse back
and yes kracker, it is still I.D.W.T.-have faith brother.

ChippersLoveChild

September 10th, 2010
12:03 pm

Five hole,

I doubt we trade Hainsey. We are looking to add cap, and take advantage of a cap-strapped team, I’d think, if we make a move, not send a guy with a considerable amount due to him elsewhere.

lemon drop the gloves

September 10th, 2010
12:04 pm

can someone find, copy, and paste big buff’s ot winner vs. the rangers in ot from last season? maybe duds will view it.

Alan R.

September 10th, 2010
12:09 pm

five hole

September 10th, 2010
12:13 pm

WBF and ChippersLoveChild I’m looking at it from this perspective; Toby is our #1 dman. Bogo has the upside to be our #2 dman. Dudley traded to acquire Odouya and Sopel. So, if we trade one, it has to be Hainsey, or Valabik. Or Kudla, I suppose.

And we could trade Hainsey to take advantage of a cap-strapped team, if we take on more salary, either straight up, or a 1-for-2 player deal. However, the 1-for-2 may give us 2 mediocre overpaid players. Still, I don’t think we can keep the kids on the farm forever.

Alan R.

September 10th, 2010
12:21 pm

five hole – I don’t see Hainsey as tradeable. If our dealing is with a cap-strapped team, we’d have to trade one of Valabik or Kulda. Or a cheap forward. Timmy from BWA on Twitter suggested Peverley could also be a trade option. I (nor he) would like to see Pevs get moved, but he is cheap.

Russ

September 10th, 2010
12:22 pm

“Craig Ramsay confirmed to me that Dustin Byfuglien will come to camp as defenseman.”

Great, now they definitely need another top six forward and they have just added to their glut of interchangeable average defenseman. Idiots. So, if Byfuglien isn’t considerably better than the likes of Sopel/Kulda/Valabik does that mean he takes his turns as a healthy scratch? The centerpiece of the big offseason trade has been put into a position where he might as well be a healthy scratch…and why is it this organization has never won a playoff game??? As I’ve said before, if motivated Buff can be a difference maker as a forward. On defense he’s just another body. Hopefully, Ramsay figures this out sooner rather than later.

Joe Friday

September 10th, 2010
12:37 pm

After hearing from Coach about this idiotic decision to play Buf at D, I thought, that sounds like a Waddell idea. Now I get this email, anyone still suffer under the delusion that it’s not still Don calling the shots after hearing more dumb ideas and now who’s front and center at the season preview event for fans:

You are invited to a Thrashers Season Preview Event on Thursday, September 23rd from 7 – 9pm at Philips Arena to discuss the new direction of the team and the exciting changes the team has undergone over the course of the summer.

The event will feature:

• A 2010-2011 preview from Thrashers President Don Waddell, General Manager Rick Dudley, Head Coach Craig Ramsay and Goalie Chris Mason

Smoothie

September 10th, 2010
12:53 pm

Antropov’s career high is 26 goals playing wing in TOR. He scored 24 after going goal-less in the first 17 games of the season. He is capable of scoring 30 in this league. He just needs to shoot more. His career shooting % is .140, pretty damn good.

Smoothie

September 10th, 2010
12:57 pm

They used Bogo and Kaner at the Draft Party. I don’t think they want to wear those two out on public appearances as they will be used in that capacity quite often throughout the season. Why wouldn’t Waddell be there? He’s actually good at working the room and pressing flesh.

I’d find it more troubling if Waddell were there and Dudley didn’t make the appearance. We all know he’s not the most people-oriented person. He’s a one-on-one guy. Waddell’s the natural salesman, as Sage loves to remind us incessantly.

Smoothie

September 10th, 2010
12:59 pm

Oooops! I’m sorry, Antro scored 28 goals the year before he came to ATL. It was split between TOR (21) and NYR (7). And I believe he had one or two in the playoff series loss to PIT.

GaVaHokie

September 10th, 2010
1:01 pm

I agree with Smoothie… nothing out of the ordinary here.

I also think Buff’s move to Defense was also a Buff decision, not just Coaching and Management.

GaVaHokie

September 10th, 2010
1:03 pm

I think SOMEONE on this team will score over 30 goals, I just averaged them out to 25 in my projections.

I also think one of our Defenseman will hit 15 goals this season, but I averaged them out at 10 goals.

Bogosian was well on his way last year before breaking his hand.

Smoothie

September 10th, 2010
1:07 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTr6lgvbLck&feature=related

I could really get used to this. And I like hearing Daren Eliot wax eloquent about Dustin-ey Byfuglien.

kracker

September 10th, 2010
1:13 pm

idk, JF, I think you are reading too much into a meet, greet and answer session. I got the same email.

Besides, you left off that there will be Light hors d’oeuvres and refreshments and Complimentary Parking too boot.

kracker

September 10th, 2010
1:17 pm

Chris tweets that he did his interview w/ Ramsay and he will have a blog on the Byfuglien move up shortly.

Never a dull moment!

Joe Friday

September 10th, 2010
1:17 pm

“Light hors d’oeuvres”

Yeah, but how many are gonna be left after Don eats them all?!?!

Alan R.

September 10th, 2010
1:17 pm

Why wouldn’t Waddell be there? He’s actually good at working the room and pressing flesh.

But don’t you get it??? Any appearance Waddell makes at a team event means he’s still calling the shots!!1! After all, if some guy on the internet believes it to be true, then it’s GOTTA be true!!1

Did you know Waddell is also the antichrist? He doesn’t just burn bibles, he smokes them! Nothing but the finest ganja hits the Old Testament! To top it all off, I have it on good authority (Bleacher Report, E5) that Waddell sustains himself by drinking the blood of newborn bats!

Cornbread

September 10th, 2010
1:23 pm

One of the Thrashers biggest weaknesses has been lack of a true number one pivot. Bring one in and it addresses a lot of past problems but at what cost? The biggest weakness I saw from the Thrashers when Kovy left was their ability to bring the puck up ice and set-up the PP. Do they have someone capable of doing that? Will Ramsay’s simplified PP address this? The Thrashers will be fine scoring goals; they need to cut down on the goals against. Get that down to the 200-230 range and they make the playoffs.

Ladd is quite capable of top 6 duties. Check the guy’s career shooting percentage. He’s young, got the skills, smarts, experience, and two Stanley Cups. Put him on the first/second line with some PP time and he goes over 20 goals.

Big Buff will come to camp really BIG. That’s just my feeling. It’s happened before. I doubt if he has skated much if at all since winning the Cup. He is raw talent and can play anywhere when he’s in shape. Training camp will be his time to get into shape. Skating on D is less of a physical excursion than skating up. Maybe he’ll see PP time standing in front of the net.

Bergfors needs to be signed. If he does not then yes they definitely need to bring in a top six. If management truly believes he’s the “Real Deal”, then get the deal done. I never got the feeling with his play last year that he did not want to be here or was unhappy with his bigger first line role. Oduya seemed displeased at first but that changed after 8-10 games when he gelled with Hainsey.

Modin and Thorburn are an interesting pair on third line wing. Not with Slater at pivot but dark horse Esposito. Slater has certainly earned the third line spot but the Thrashers have a little more depth bringing in the skill of Espo who could be bumped to second line if needed due to injuries. Is he healthy? He certainly has put on some really good weight working out with Bogo.

Cormier adds little depth if he makes the team as the fourth center. Does he have what it takes at this point to move up to the third line if called on? Burmistrov as second with Peverly moving to third and Slater to fourth certainly adds depth. But is he ready at this level? I don’t think he has the size or grit to play third line checking duties and would be better developed if sent to Juniors and dominate there.

Let’s mix things up a bit:

Ladd Antro Bergfors
Kane Peverly Little
Modin Espo Thorburn/Machachek
Eager Slater Boults/Rissmiller

Enstrom Bogo
Hainsey Oduya
Buff Sopel Valabik

Thrashy Thrashy

September 10th, 2010
1:25 pm

Why are people wringing their hands about Buff on D?

It’s not like he has Kane and Toews playing with him in Atlanta. Besides, don’t you get the feeling that he’s going to be a swingman?

Dudley keeps talking about his powerful shot, but my guess is that Buff will find himself down low on the PP. That’s exactly where he should be. It’s a good thing to have a player who can contribute up front and on the blue line. Buff is not a superstar, but he’s a big guy who’s got a good deal of talent. It’s up to Ramsey to figure out the best way to get the most out of that talent. Until he fails at doing so, I’ll give the move the benefit of the doubt.

World Be Free

September 10th, 2010
1:25 pm

five hole-I am with you, I just don’t see anyone taking Hainsey’s salary for the next 2 seasons. Boris may draw some interest for 3 reasons-
1. Size 2. Age 3. He was a top 10 pick.
Some clubs think they can work their magic, get Boris for a song then turn him uinto a sound defenseman. We all know he doesn’t use his size and so fa his play doesn’t justify being a top 10 pick. Maybe the Leafs will give us Phaneuf for Boris.

rob

September 10th, 2010
1:26 pm

IS IT OCTOBER 8, 2010? Take a deep breath….hold it….now breathe. If we are this nervous already, what will happen when someone gets hurt in camp? And with this glut of players that won’t suprise me. Sit back and watch, you might be enlightened.
As for the NEED for 30+ goal scorer…, I am not buying it. Crazy I know, hear me out. How many legit “top 6″ forwards do say, the Sabres, have? Now I hear you, they have Miller, but even with a better than average goalie that system works well. Their problem is their lack of grit and toughness. What is it we seem to have brewing? A bigger, tough team in that same strain. The problem here is there has been that one guy who scored a lot that everyone relied on. 10 years of that, and you still can’t see that this change is good. It isn’t “exciting” high scoring, end to end rushes….no, it should be, good, old fashion, grind them into submission and win close games hockey.
TEAM play will elevate everyone to better their game BECAUSE there isn’t that 1 guy anymore. The only real problem I see is Antropov’s hip giving out, which is why I would rather have him on the wing.

Not really my .02 worth, more of a penny for my thoughts, thought.

Brendan

September 10th, 2010
1:39 pm

Kracker, I do understand what you’re saying, but say our trading partner were the Devils. Do you think that trading his RFA “rights” wouldn’t carry some weight with them? Bergfors, at a minimum, would understand the Devils are pressed flush against the cap, and might be more amenable to a lesser dollar contract to return to them. Those are my thoughts. I just don’t want to get fleeced by Lamoriello. I’m not interested in Bryce Salvador or Colin White, or really Zubrus, Elias, or Rolston, even if they could be moved. Like Red Light and Joe Friday, and even I have been saying, we’re weak up the middle. We need Travis Zajac.

Now, look. I’m not saying the Thrashers are going to do, well, anything. Rawhide asked us what’s needed, in terms of Top Six forwards. I answered based on the question asked. Which was, about forwards, not defenders, and irrespective of who owns the team, and where they set the budget. If Rawhide had asked, “If the Thrashers can pick up a Tier I player, should it be a forward or a defender?,” I’d say a defenseman. To me, this is just “Year Four” of the 4-year building project. And really, the budget reflects that sort of “building” ideology.

I crunched some numbers, which I hate doing, really. Last year’s 234 Goals For equates to roughly 2.85 goals-per-game. Like Alan R. said, we could win games, 3-2, or 2-1. Shoot, I’d stamp my seal of approval on a whole lot of 1-0 games. Winning is winning. But I don’t think a lot of 1-0 or 2-1 type wins is reasonable. Our 256 goals against, one of our better years, defensively, by the way, equates to approximately 3.12 goals against-per-game. If the Thrashers shave off 30 goals from 256, like I think they will, that’s 226 for the year. That comes to roughly 2.76 goals-per-game. Now, maybe you see why I think we’ll need to score roughly 2.9 per game to be playoff bound, or at least winning more games than we lose.

I repeat, I think this is still Year # 4 in the building process, since the sweep by the Rangers in 2007. I get it. I understand that. And I’m not a fan who demands Stanley Cups every year, or even playoffs every year. But what I don’t support … is year, after year, after year of bluster about the playoffs from the GM and ownership. What would it hurt, honestly, to say, “Build with us. We’ll discount tickets. We’ll keep you apprised of our plans. We’re going to be inclusive. We want you onboard with the plans.” But, like Sage of Bluesland says, it’s amazing just how little the ownership regards the hockey fanbase in these parts. That hockey survives here, through the decade it’s had, is a testament to the “interest level” in hockey, in Atlanta. In a lot of other cities, the team would be gone by now.

ss, I wouldn’t even worry about getting the players we need in here in time for camp. It’d be more important just to get them here. It’s seven month long season, nine for quality teams. The last thing I want the Thrashers to do is “peak” in November. Any team that does that, is doomed. The idea is to be playing the best hockey you can in March and April, and then in the playoffs.

Joe Friday, all your posts have been great today. Byfuglien on D? Aye, aye, aye. You’re absolutely right. Big Buff creates space for Little or Peverley or Antropov. Hopefully, they’ll realize that before it’s too late. I still use the “blueprint” of 250 or more goals scored while surrendering 200 or fewer as the measure of a potential Stanley Cup champion. Giving up 200 goals against equates to roughly 2.44 goals-per-game. That’s not easy for any team to do. It’s not like we have Pronger, Niedermayer, Lidstrom, Rafalski, Doughty, Phaneuf, and Hedman, or any of them, on our blueline. For a Cup winner, the blueline must have not one, but TWO (2) Tier I defenders, to be a serious threat. And we’re nowhere near that, in Year Four of the building project. I think Rawhide is right. If we’re going to get that Top Six forward, or a defender for that matter, we’ll have to get via trade. Joe Friday, do you like anyone on Vancouver or Calgary or Boston? I’m drunk to think we’ve got a shot at Travis Zajac, but I like to have to my “fun.” Your thoughts for a center that WaDudley could procure via trade, please.

One last thing. What I like about Sopel is … he was playing, pretty much, over 20:00 per game in the playoffs, for the Blackhawks. That’s gets glossed over a lot. If he was good enough to do that, on the Stanley Cup Champions, then he should get big minutes here.

glovesave29

September 10th, 2010
1:48 pm

I just dont see Waddell being there as any indication that he has anything to do with hockey ops. I am as happy as the rest of the crowd here that he is no longer the GM, but as a person – well, he’s always been good with people and he will talk hockey while giving people generous amounts of his time. He was miscast as a GM, I think the team may have found a role that meets his skill set. He obviously likes these kind of meet-and-greets, so if he is willing to come and talk with the fans, I cannot see any reason for not allowing him to do so.

glovesave29

September 10th, 2010
1:56 pm

Brendan – the trades will come fast an furious once teams are in camp and they see what they have. The CBA allows teams to be above the cap during the off season. Once they are up against a deadline to get under, they will accept the offers that previously might have been scoffed at.

Sure Lou wants to keep Zajac. He’s the best chip they have at the table. When the other teams reject their trade offers for the aging players, he will realize the true cost of the Kovy signing. His hand will be forced and the Devils will have to let someone go that they’d prefer to keep.

I think hockey is surviving here because of the work of the Commissioner. I think he has told the ASG the team is to stay here in Atlanta. He’s not going to lose a top 10 media maket due to their incompetence as owners (sure different language was used). Bettman knows a winner will fill the seats. Half this city has moved here in since the Olympics were here – those of us who grew up around here are harder and harder to find.

BlueSpark

September 10th, 2010
2:05 pm

Rawhide left out Dawes, and wants to trade Thorburn too? Who’s going to play on the PK now that Reasoner is gone?

GaVaHokie

September 10th, 2010
2:05 pm

Waddell’s key job description now is Marketing… this is a Marketing event… what’s the big mystery?!

Smoothie

September 10th, 2010
2:10 pm

Technically we only gave up 250 goals last year, 6 of those 256 were S/O losses, the gimmick goal. 3.05 is a truer number for our GAA. In the 2nd half, our GAA was 2.88 or 118 GA in 41 games. We even managed to cut down the number of shots allowed going from an avg of 33.90 in the first half to 32.3 in the second half. Our SV% was a very respectable .911 in the 2nd half. Compared to the first half when we gave up an avg of 3.22 goals per game and a SV% of .905.

What’s my point? Or conclusion? This team IS capable of playing better D without Kovy & Max skating circles at the blueline. Especially with a man like Rammer at the helm. He WILL coach these guys up. Just hope Big Buf comes to camp motivated no matter what position he’s playing.

Alan R.

September 10th, 2010
2:14 pm

If the Thrashers shave off 30 goals from 256, like I think they will, that’s 226 for the year. That comes to roughly 2.76 goals-per-game

And if the Thrashers shave off 60 from that 256 number, it comes to 196, which is ~2.39 GA/G. Is this unrealistic? New Jersey scored 222 and allowed 191 last year. Boston scored 206 while allowing 200. Buffalo scored 235 while allowing 207. Playoff teams closer to your number include Montreal (217GF/223GA), Philly (236GF/225GA), and Detroit (229GF/216GA). Amongst others, of course.

Look, I get your point. I really and truly do. I just don’t think there is a dire need to being in another top-6 player. I don’t think we’ll have a scoring problem. At least, not a scoring problem like people seem to think we’re going to have. I think our defense is vastly improved, and as we all know, it’s defense that wins championships. You also have to consider the philosophy Ramsay is bringing in here. He expects our blueline to put up points, as well as prevent them. If there’s anyone in the NHL that can put something like that into motion, it’s damn sure going to be Ramsay.

rob

September 10th, 2010
2:16 pm

Thorburn said before the summer started he wanted to improve…..hands of stone are hard to fix but if he did it, good, but otherwise I can see Ladd and Kane, Slater and Pevs, on the PK.

Spud Webb

September 10th, 2010
2:19 pm

WBF, no way in h&ll do I want Dainius Zubrus, good luck moving that contract anyway NJ.
Yes, we need a top 6 forward, but I just don’t see it happenining at this point. Possibly at the trade deadline picking someone up?? I believe we’re going into camp with what we have…of course this means Duds will make a move within a day or two!!!!

Red Light

September 10th, 2010
2:21 pm

“Here’s an offer for tomorrow you can’t refuse!

The first three people from Rawhide’s blog that show up at TJs tomorrow (I’ll be there from 11 am to 4 pm) to watch the college football games, and make a donation to the 9/11 scholarship fund, and then correctly identifies the college where former Thrashers forward Bob Corkum is now an assistant coach, I’ll give you two club seats and a parking pass to any Thrashers home game this season!

I’ll even give you the answer…The University of Maine!”

The party begins at 11 am and ends at 11 pm! Lots of great college football games and a TJ’s taligate party!

Smoothie

September 10th, 2010
2:21 pm

Don’t forget that 3 of Chicago’s 6 best penalty-killers were 3 of their 4 best offensive players: Hossa, Toews and Sharp. Don’t be surprised to see Kaner continue along with Pevs and even Little. And Dawes will have a distinct advantage over Thorburn (cuz he can score) if he demonstrates the willingness to give up the body and play well on PK.

Red Light

September 10th, 2010
2:22 pm

You in Spud?

Joe Friday

September 10th, 2010
2:32 pm

“this is a Marketing event… what’s the big mystery?!”

dude, you can’t be this . . . never mind. Waddell is team President, not head of Marketing, let me help you connect the dots. the event is billed as “to discuss the new direction of the team and the exciting changes the team has undergone over the course of the summer.” “new direction”. “exciting changes” And they trot out in the lead role the most reviled man in the organ-i-zation who is the symbol of all that is wrong with the old direction and old guard of the club? Mabye you’re right, mabye Don is in charge of marketing, because that’s one dumb marketing idea right there, Hokie, trot out the source of the old problems to show the changes?.

Just like moving Big Buf back to d is one dumbass personnel management mistake.

Couple the two together and I see the current decisions being made today that are in the mold of the same old dumb Thrashers’ marketing, management, and personnel decisions.

Joe Friday

September 10th, 2010
2:33 pm

Brendan, I would love to see Ramsay be able to sway Savard into dropping his no trade to come back here, he’s one of the best puck distributors in the league and Boston was able to get him to play in his own end, his game has matured and he’s the top center that would be a difference maker here.

Rawhide

September 10th, 2010
2:34 pm

Red Light – Great offer…thanks!

Anyone in the area should swing by and check it out. Should be a great time. I was there Wednesday chatting with Tim Ecclestone about upcoming Thrashers events there and he was telling me about tomorrow’s festivities.

BlueSpark – Indeed I did mention Dawes in the last paragraph in regards to battling for a spot with some of the prospects. And I don’t really ‘want’ to trade Thorburn, just making a point about how the compitition and talent in house could possibly lead to a player of his ilk being on the outside looking in.

However, your point regarding the PK is very valid.

Smoothie

September 10th, 2010
2:35 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLu85tH4JGs&feature=related

Byfuglien with the natural hat-trick…playing defense? Wearing #52 and playing the point on the PP certainly.

World Be Free

September 10th, 2010
2:37 pm

Spud, Sabres getting Zubrus as a rental for a 1st round pick was another brilliant Darcy Regier move. Then Lou, who is supposed to be so brilliant signs Zubrus for 5 or 6 years. No idea what everyone sees in Zubrus.

9.25 preseason game-can’t wait!

Red Light

September 10th, 2010
2:41 pm

Thanks Rawhide!

BTW, the comments here are eerily similar to those we bandied about on July 1 and July 2. Russ, Badger Bob, World Be Free and many others suggested going after a top-6 forward. Here we sit 72 days later talking about it again. I think that’s where the frustration lies.

I do believe Kane and Lane are the most obvious in terms of skill sets to move up to the top-6.

Wondering whatever happened to Pittsburgh Pirate Fan? I guess he’s still celebrating after the Buccos took two of three from the Braves this week!

Alan R.

September 10th, 2010
2:46 pm

Smoothie, according to Byfuglien’s wikipedia page, Byfuglien started that season (2007-2008) at Defense. He went on to score 19 goals that year, with an additional two goals in AHL-Rockford.

glovesave29

September 10th, 2010
2:46 pm

RL – that place is gonna be PACKED for the Nebraska game. Be prepared.

Trixie (Rawhide's Secretary)

September 10th, 2010
2:47 pm

100th – giggle