Thrashers rumored to have signed veteran forward Fredrik Modin

There’s a report coming from Sweden that the Thrashers have signed veteran forward Fredrik Modin to a one-year contract. I’ve yet to see any official confirmation of the signing, however Dan Kamal tweets and TSN reports that the deal has indeed gone down. Regardless, it wouldn’t surprise me that the rumors are true, given the fact that the 6’-4”, 223 lb forward has past ties with both Craig Ramsay and Rick Dudley. All three were a part of the 2004 Stanley Cup winning Tampa Bay Lightning team.

Modin will be 36 years old on October 8 and is currently a UFA coming off a three-year $9.75 million contract which brought with it a $3.25 mil cap hit. Last season he split time between the Columbus Blue Jackets and Los Angeles Kings, netting a total of 5 goals and 6 assists during 44 total games. He was a –6 in 24 games with Columbus and a –2 in 20 games in LA. Last spring he played in 6 playoff games with the Kings during their round one loss to Vancouver, scoring 3 goals and 1 assist while finishing a –3.

Fredrik Modin played in only 44 games last season with the Colubus blue Jackets and LA Kings. There are rumors that the Thrashers have signed him to a contract (AP Photo)

Fredrik Modin played in only 44 games last season with the Colubus blue Jackets and LA Kings. There are rumors that the Thrashers have signed him to a contract (AP Photo)

For most of Modin’s career, he’s been looked upon as a 20+ goal scorer. In 2000-01 he scored 32 goals and 24 assists, in 2003-04 he had 28 goals and 29 assists and the following season he netted 31 goals and 23 assists. However after leaving Tampa and heading to Columbus, injuries have limited his play for the past three seasons. In 2007-08 he played in just 23 games, 50 the season after that and only 44 last year.

In 858 career NHL games he has 225 goals, 227 assists, 439 PIM and is a +3. He’s appeared in 57 playoff games where he’s scored 14 times and chipped in with 12 assists. In 2004, he scored 8 goals and 11 assists during 23 playoff matches to help earn him a sip from the Stanley Cup.

So now, the big question is…why would Dudley bring in a player who will turn 36 on opening night? Especially after saying he wants prospects like Patrice Cormier, Spencer Machacek and Alex Burmistrov to have every opportunity to earn roster spots during training camp.

Well, I have a possible suggestion…insurance.

First off, Modin could add a little more veteran presence to this lineup. Yes, it’s good to have a good amount of healthy, hungry youngsters on the team, but the stability that comes with a number of “been there, done that, got my name on the Cup” types doesn’t hurt either. Possibly he, along with Patrick Rissmiller, could be on the roster filling the roles of healthy scratches in the press box while providing the occasional spot start.

But if one or two of the young-uns are not able to prove themselves ready in preseason or are not able to handle playing everyday at the NHL level this fall, Dudley and Ramsay need a player like Modin to fall back on…giving a young player a short break to regain his stride.

Another possible reason to bring in Modin in the mane of insurance is that Dudley and Co. are very concerned about the contract impasse that the Thrashers find themselves at with Nic Bergfors. If they are not able to come to terms with the RFA and he chooses to hold out, or the Thrashers feel the need to trade away his rights, then Dudley needs a left wing to fill Bergie’s vacancy on one of the top two lines.

Maybe Modin takes that top-six spot, or maybe Andrew Ladd does and Modin plays on the third line.

Are there drawbacks to bringing in Modin? Sure…

His age and recent health issues are certainly a cause for concern. If they are looking to have a backup plan in case Bergfors in unavailable at the beginning of the season, there is a 13-year gap between those two players.

Of course, there is also the financial part of the equation too. I highly doubt the organization is offering up anything close to the $3.5 million Modin made last season. But a 1-year deal at or around a mil wouldn’t be out of the question for such an insurance policy. Certainly the Thrashers have the room under the cap for it, but anything more would be too much in my opinion.

Regardless… as is the case with any type of insurance… people tend to go with those they know and trust. And I don’t think it’s too much a stretch to think this would be the reason why Dudley and Ramsay might opt to bring in Fredrik Modin for just such a purpose.

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Thrashers27

September 5th, 2010
3:33 pm

Rawhide,

I’m sorry to be the one to point it out, but I think you have “Morin” on your mind.

As for Modin, “eh.” He can play either wing, so there’s some flexibility and he brings some more size, otherwise I don’t think he’s got much left in the tank. As long as he doesn’t keep one of the kids from getting ice time, I’m fine with him being here.

SomaAtl95

September 5th, 2010
3:41 pm

Took forever to type in the last post and I see you posted a new blog, so here goes:
I see it like this – The team is going to do what they want to do in any way that they see fit. While we can show our surprise/unhappiness at the changes that have been made their overall M.O. is to put butts in the seats. STH’s and rabid fans (like all of us, including sage) are only one part of the equation. If they can manage a team with the fairy tale vibes of the 91 Braves or 98 Falcons they will get more butts in seats, which is the ASG’s overall goal. The Thrashers and Hawks want (or should want) to win their respective Championships, the ASG just wants the revenues and benefits that come from building excitement. In the law of averages, give anything enough time and its number will be drawn – Both Falcons and Braves came to Atlanta in the 60’s, had a brief taste of playoffs in the 80’s but waited till the 90’s to do anything significant. The Flames were contenders in Atlanta and won the cup within a few years of being shipped out of town. The fact of the matter is that there will be no ownership group interested in keeping Hockey in Atlanta until there is a fan presence. Anyone that disagrees should look at the fate of the Yotes. Last year they were about to be “Tom Cousins’ed” out of town, they got new ownership (the NHL) new management and a purpose. They won. They put butts in the seats, and now they have a buyer interested in keeping them in Glendale.
I will have blind faith in the Thrashers (and I don’t usually have blind faith in Anything) regardless of if they are contenders for the cup or contenders for the toilet. Give any team enough time in Atlanta and our city will catch on. In the meantime the teams need their “Sheeple” to keep the same grazing area.
I know some will disagree and some will want to argue my point, but I will be damned if Canada steals another one of our teams. At least we know that our team made the most moves and some of the biggest waves in this off season, and while some signings have not been preferred, at least they are doing something (and they jettisoned a lot of dead weight players who were obviously unhappy to be here).
Modin will bring experience and may be able to provide leadership for our younger players, which was sorely missing from the Kovalchuk years.
This has been an offseason like no other for our Thrashers. That means something, right?

Rawhide

September 5th, 2010
3:44 pm

Thrashers27 – Good Lord…I typed “Morin”, what, seven or eight times??? :roll: Sheeze!

Thanks…corrected.

SomaAtl95 – Consider yourself “Ranallo-ed”.

Inky Binky

September 5th, 2010
3:48 pm

this has the stench of Wadell

Toby

September 5th, 2010
4:01 pm

Brutal signing. I believe this means Buff starts the season on D.

SomaAtl95

September 5th, 2010
4:01 pm

Consider yourself “Ranallo-ed”. (sniffle, sniffle) OK. (wipes tear away) Took long enough for that to happen too – does Ranallo still post?

Cornbread

September 5th, 2010
4:05 pm

The Thrashers are very young up front. They lack veteran leadership from a proven winner. This signing is filling a big hole. Up front, the Thrashers have lost their Captain along with 30+ year old forwards Kozlov, Afinogenov, Reasoner, and White. The only 30 year old who will see significant ice time is Antropov. The next oldest players are a 27 and 28 year old born in 1982. 34 year old Boulton’s games played are likely to decrease big time this season.

Anyone care to take a look at the age of the veteran forwards on Stanley Cup Playoff teams? They all have several who are in their early to mid 30’s. Practically the whole team on the Red Wings is in their 30’s… or 40’s. Older and wiser players can beat speed and skill.

If Modin stays healthy and produces, great. If not, you still get his locker room leadership.

Rawhide

September 5th, 2010
4:06 pm

SomaAtl95 – He hasn’t for a while…but he tells me he still lurks in every once in a while.

chipper

September 5th, 2010
4:21 pm

For the record, there’s still a Morin in there.

Brendan

September 5th, 2010
4:31 pm

I don’t know what the thinking was, here. Then again, I don’t how much the guy will get paid, either. If it’s $880,000, might be okay. But, the previous GM, one Don Waddell, was notorious for his “let’s give this ‘on the decline, oft injured player’ a shot here, at minimal pay.” Worked perfectly, every time, no? Let’s count up the playoff wins. You carry the one, right?

Modin is a big boy, at 6′4″/220 pounds, but don’t we have about enough of those already. It’s Byfuglien’s job to be the big man. Now, it looks like he’ll play defense. D’oh. In 2007, Modin missed most of the season with a serious shoulder injury. He hasn’t played over 50 games in a season since 2007. The upside is … he’s still “a point every other game” type of player. I don’t know that he will get 16 minutes a game. We’ll see. Modin has scored 15 or more goals a season eight times (8x) in his career. I think we’d settle for 15 goals, and 60 games, from Modin. As always, I hope it works out. I said that about Ken Klee. I said that about Steve Rucchin. I said that about Uwe Krupp. And Byron Dafoe. And Jani Hurme. And Smehlik. Seems like we could have found a player from the farm system for a bottom six forward.

BjGpikapp83@yahoo.com

September 5th, 2010
4:58 pm

This would make A LOT more sense if it was an invite to camp and not an actual signing…

The Smooth Spark

September 5th, 2010
6:02 pm

Modin will only make his $800k if he makes the team. Still a big IF. Perhaps I’m mistaken but he’s not a hit against the cap unless he’s on the Opening Night roster, n’est-ce pas?

At any rate, he’s probably nothing more than insurance if some of our young guys don’t pan out during camp. There’s no way both Rissmiller AND Modin end up on the roster. I’m curious to know if his deal is a 1-way deal as I don’t know why wed pay Modin that much coin to play in the AHL when Rismiller may be headed there too.

Worse case scenario is that Bergfors gets traded (Nick may have been miffed from early on when we brought in a Bergfors clone in Freddy Petersson) and Modin ends up on our 3rd line.

But I still don’t see Ramsay playing Big Buff on the blueline as his size is too valuable on the front line. With DB in the top 6, no way Modin cracks the top 6. Everything is gonna work out but don’t be surprised if Duds is loading up for another trade. That’s how he rolls.

Sage of Bluesland

September 5th, 2010
6:22 pm

“Brutal signing….”

That about sums it up.

Isn’t that our new slogan this year?

Yep….and some actually think that the ASG’s “goal” is to win the title! Now THAT is funny…

Cornbread

September 5th, 2010
6:24 pm

I don’t know, maybe Modin’s wearing the “A” for two teams, winning the World Championship, Olympics, and Stanley Cup while compiling 858 NHL games and 452 points commands a little more deference than a try-out.

I don’t see a lot of risk in this but it has the potential for high reward. If he gets hurt or does not produce wave goodbye and a young gun fills the slot. Produce 40 points while providing leadership for the 10 starting forwards in their 20’s and it will be a great signing that makes Dudley look like a genius.

Cornbread

September 5th, 2010
6:41 pm

Rawhide, Modin had 3 goals and an assist in 6 playoff games last season.

SomaAtl95

September 5th, 2010
6:44 pm

Sage – you must have missed what I typed earlier, re-read it here – “The Thrashers and Hawks want (or should want) to win their respective Championships, the ASG just wants the revenues and benefits that come from building excitement”
All I said is that they wanted the REVENUE from excitement, all it takes is an ounce of giving a spit and they can build excitement, they ONLY WANT THE MONEY FROM BEING SAY, EVEN MILDLY SUCCESSFUL because thats more than they have yet done! The TEAMS should want the championship. I wasn’t bashing your point of view yet you’re still bashing mine. I (like most people here, god knows including you) do agree the ASG isn’t in it to win it, their inability to do or retain any significant progress/player has shown that. However, I really like watching NHL Hockey in my hometown, even if sub-par, and do not want the team to depart for the great white nothing known as Canada.
So if I disagree with you, I am mocked. If I agree with you, I am mocked. Make your mind up man – do you want people to agree with you or not?
Let me put it this way, I despise the people in Canada who covet our team like you despise us sheeple. Difference is I don’t say that in EVERY post and then relentlessly mock everyone who disagrees.
If you’re unmarried I really hope you don’t take the same attitude on e-harmony.com! What does it take to get the great and mighty Sage to agree with anyone with a valid point outside of his own?

Fan from Carolina

September 5th, 2010
7:39 pm

Totally off-topic but I need to vent somewhere. I went on-line yesterday to buy Thrashers single game tickets and was stunned at the prices. I haven’t been for a few years (and bought tickets outside Philips for cheap). I really wanted to get back into live action instead of TV and I wanted choice good seats in the lower level near the blue line but they were $90 each!! Who can afford $180 per game for 2 seats plus parking, serious gas $$ for me to travel from NC, and any snacks?? I used to have full season tickets in another NHL city in the 90’s. The blue line lower level tickets were HALF the price. Have ticket prices really doubled in 10-15 years? Have the salaries gone up double?? Ouch!! How can anyone support hockey at these prices? I did buy some seats in the 2nd level at $45 per seat but what a disappointment. It’s not like the Thrashers just won the Cup. Sticker shock!

Sage of Bluesland

September 5th, 2010
7:51 pm

“…I (like most people here, god knows including you) do agree the ASG isn’t in it to win it, their inability to do or retain any significant progress/player has shown that….”

Now that I will agree with. Their acceptance of incompetence and their disdain for the fans is beyond comprehension to me.

“…However, I really like watching NHL Hockey in my hometown, even if sub-par, and do not want the team to depart for the great white nothing known as Canada….”

I can understand this, to a degree. You’re a fan of hockey. You will put dollars in the pockets of those who give you that product.

That’s fine. I understand it completely.

However, it’s when ’some’ (I don’t know if it’s you or not) actually complain or are vexed about why this team is so pathetic…It’s when some gripe and complain about how pitiful this organization is…

It’s those I have the problem with–as they are the ones subsidizing the incompetence. They are effectively enabling the lack of accountability to continue.

Wonderfully enough, then there are some who spew such ignorance as “Donnie hasn’t made a bad move yet”…or “My spreadsheet shows that our drafts are above league-average!”…they are the ones which really make me laugh–and scratch my head at the same time…

Some think all we have to do is collectively ‘wish’ really, really hard and our dreams will be realized! Some think it’s all a spin of the roulette wheel–i.e. it will be “our turn” soon!

Nope–it has everything to do with ownership and leadership…It has everything to do with commitment to winning and accountability…

Thus, we’re doomed, with this group in charge.

goose

September 5th, 2010
8:20 pm

Could Modin be a replacement for thorburn? He has a cap hit of 660K kills penalties, has some size, fights (tries to at least) and is still young enough to have some potential left. I smell a trade.

goose

September 5th, 2010
8:24 pm

I just noticed on Cap Geek, that the devils have no trade clauses for Rolston and Langennbruner, and no movement clauses for Elias and Arnott.

SomaAtl95

September 5th, 2010
8:35 pm

Wow. Thank you sage. We now have common ground. If they can manage a few good years here, the Thrashers will indeed find better ownership. The ASG is to the Thrashers what the Smith family was to the Falcons. The Smith family finally sold their team to a great owner, it took them showing signs of improvement and putting a team in the Superbowl as well before there was a buyer that was going to keep the team in Atlanta. I wish Mr Blank could purchase the Thrashers, I do. Since he has owner the Falcons there has been at least one prognosticator each and every season to say they will be contenders, and still, we celebrated the fact that for the first time in forty years they have back to back winning seasons.
I don’t complain that the team is bad, they’re my team. All teams in Atlanta go through being HORRID. It takes a lot of suffering to love a sport in this city, but look what happens after a period of being a laughing stock – the Braves had the 90’s, the Falcons had much of this past decade and the Hawks have made repeat playoff appearances. The law of averages is on our side. Keep the Thrashers here long enough, they will win. People will come to the games. Then your dream of an “ASG free” Club will happen. The ASG will sell the Thrashers at the point they feel they can get the most return on their investment. If they are sold to someone who has a clue on how to run a hockey club, D-Wad will be sure to go.
I want the team to stay. I want them to succeed and I want them to have a real owner, not an ownership group. All of this will happen when they become winners. I support the crest on the front of the jerseys. I do not support the ownership group. Just because its their team does not mean I am subsidizing incompetence – it just means I want the team to stick around long enough to get real ownership.
Sage, I’d love to buy you a beer during a game this season and just discuss the game of hockey itself. I believe you have as much loving passion for the sport as vile hatred you carry for the ASG. You aren’t alone.

Rawhide, ever thought of having an **official** get together before a game? I’ve met you at a viewing party before but it would be cool to meet everyone fact to face at philips during a weekend game this year. The debate face to face would be a lot of fun!

Hockey Biltong

September 5th, 2010
9:35 pm

want better, younger, faster….

World Be Free

September 5th, 2010
10:29 pm

Depth signing folks. I doubt Modin is part of any five year plan moving forward.

Rawhide

September 5th, 2010
10:56 pm

Rawhide, ever thought of having an **official** get together before a game? I’ve met you at a viewing party before but it would be cool to meet everyone fact to face at philips during a weekend game this year. The debate face to face would be a lot of fun!

SomaAtl95 – Not a bad thought. Maybe the upstairs part of the Taco Mac at Philips?

BTW…Chris Vivlamore tweeted tonight, “Thrashers likely to make signing of Fredrik Modin official on Monday”.

Hokie P. Clisters

September 5th, 2010
11:08 pm

I hope we have lots of Motrin stockpiled for Modin. I hope we are calling Duds a genius for this signing in January. I have to give Duds props for getting as much depth on the team as possible and if Bergie signs its even better.

However, I’m concerned that Rammer won’t have enough time to get a feel of the chemistry on this team by the end of camp. We can’t afford a slow start wandering in a flux of discombobulation with numerous depth guys.

Red Light

September 5th, 2010
11:13 pm

Aren’t you missing the point? The point is not that Modin isn’t or hasn’t been a decent player during his career. The point is not that Modin can’t help or be insurance for this team if the young guys can’t contribute right away, the point is that he is a 36-year-old forward who has done diddly during the past few seasons. The point is that he is the 170th free agent forward signed since July 1 leaguewide and this team had plenty of cap space, knew they needed several forwards when negotiations with others faltered and they wind up signing Fredrik Modin.

Insurance is typically used as a safeguard for a potential catastrophe, so while Rawhide makes a valid point about the signing as the policy, the insurance in this case could be its own catastrophe: 1) if he plays here at all 2) if he gets enough ice time to score 20 goals and 3) if he beats out other previous signees for a roster spot.

Sorry, I simply don’t get it.

Wayne stuck in AL

September 5th, 2010
11:24 pm

Yawn…not you Bill, but this signing.

These constant trades for 3rd line, 4th line, Chicago Wolves material is really testing my patience, and we still can’t get the most offensive player (Bergfors) signed.

The more I’m seeing, Dudley is turning this team into the Nashville Predators: a team that plays defense, but can’t score, and because no one will be able to put up good offensive numbers, no one can ask for a large salary (which makes Atlanta Spirit happy).

R. Stroz

September 5th, 2010
11:54 pm

Red Light – Don’t you hear the bird outside your window singing…CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP.

I’m with Joe Bob Friday on this one. This smells like over the hill dumpster diving by Wadley.

R. Stroz

September 6th, 2010
12:02 am

Forget the Motrin, get him a walker with wheels, seat, and basket.

ben

September 6th, 2010
8:05 am

If Modin makes the team, the team will be bad, friends, very bad. Let this team go to Canada! We will eventually get another team. Modin’s best years are behind him. Brendan, are you tabulating point predictions this year? If so, mark me down for 94, 10th in the East.

DWTOO

September 6th, 2010
8:13 am

When you think about all the forwards we passed on to pick this guy bewilders the senses. There’s no reason for it. Would rather see someone with potential from Chicago. The only possibility here is that Modin had his best years with Dudley and Rammer in Tampa. Duds is showing a bit of mispalced loyalty here?

J-man

September 6th, 2010
8:37 am

Modin is over the hill. If true, this is really uninspiring. So much for “letting the kids play”. Modin isn’t even insurance. He’s a waste of a roster spot. We already tried this tactic with Rucchin a few years ago. Those who don’t learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

Mrs. DWTOO

September 6th, 2010
8:40 am

Like Red Light, and R/L doesn’t get this way often, I’m just as mystified as to what the logic is behind this deal. Does Dudley know something or has something up his sleeve? What does one do with a soon to be 36 year old hockey player whose better years are behind him? Provide leadership on the ice and in the locker room to a bunch of youngsters? I’m afraid that’s the only role I see Modin playing.

R. Stroz

September 6th, 2010
9:00 am

Isn’t Gordie Howe available?

five_hole

September 6th, 2010
9:09 am

Is this an NHL contract or a ‘tryout’ contract, like what Max got to come to camp last year?

Also, if you want to see a young player use his head (wish I had a better joke for it), take a look at this:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Video-Goal-with-soccer-style-header-looks-cool-?urn=nhl-267462

Red Light

September 6th, 2010
9:27 am

It’s unfair to compare Modin to Rucchin. Prior to coming to Atlanta, Rucchin had played in 236 games during the prior three seasons before being signed by Waddell, and had 53 goals and 84 assists in those games, although his production had slipped a bit for the Rangers the previous year. His injury was simply bad luck and couldn’t be foreseen. Modin’s last three seasons don’t come close to Rucchin’s numbers.

In mid-April, Dudley said when discussing a potential deal for established veterans, that “we want our players to grow together. And, when I say an older player, I mean one way over 30. If it was someone who could contribute a lot to our team over the next three, four or five years, maybe even two years, then there would be some interest.”

OK, then Modin fits how?

Modin has never really been valued highly. When Dudley acquired him from Toronto in ‘99, he gave up Cory Cross and a 7th-round pick to get him. When he was dumped in June of 2006 to Columbus from Tampa, the compensation was Marc Denis for Modin and Noreena. On March 3, the Kings gave up a 7th-round pick for him.

Depth? Leadership? Value? I’m still looking for the evidence.

Dwayne

September 6th, 2010
9:29 am

Freaking Freddy….the Cup is ours.

Flames

September 6th, 2010
9:31 am

Modin is from Sweden and Bergfors is from Sweden. Moose was Bergfors best friend on the team last year. This might also play a part in signing Bergfors. A mentor maybe? The entire NHL was surprised when we signed Max with his health issues. Then when we didn’t resign him this year everyone on this blog was upset. I really believe that Duds knows exactly what he is doing. The main goal here is to re-sign Bergie to a long term contract. The Thrashers feel that he is the real deal. Competition only makes everybody better.

On a different note. I have a friend who is very wealthy and will own a sports team in Atlanta. He almost purchased a team about four or five years ago. I approached him about the purchasing the Thrashers. He stated that he was interested and that he has already researched the team finances. He said that the ASG was making money of the Hawks and Philips arena. He told me that the Thrashers lost over 20 million dollars last year. He said that he is watching the progress of the team and it’s ownership. With this being said, there is people who are interested in purchasing the team that are in Atlanta.

Thrashfan01

September 6th, 2010
9:52 am

What is next, Dudley trying to talk Aaron Ward out of retirement?

Modin does not fit the style Ramsey has stated he wants to play, he has averaged fewer than 40 games a season the last 3 years and at 35 is not getting faster.

This looks like wasted money and more importantly a wasted roster spot.

ben

September 6th, 2010
10:13 am

I wanted MAD MAX. This guy, unless bergfors needs a mentor is a waste. As has been gone through ad nauseum on this blog, this team will loose money until it has 2 back-to-back winning seasons or moves into an area where people feel safe. This is not a show-up-in-person and root for your team kind of a town. This is what sociologists call a doughnut metropolis, i. e.: lots around the edges and a hole in the center.

Listen, I live in midtown, so I’m not one of these I hate Atlanta people. I go to Phillips regularly, and I’m saying this team will not draw well here because

1. A perception of unsafety.
2. Years of bad management.
3. For all things other than NASCAR / COLLEGE FOOTBALL / AND MAAAAAAAAAAYBEEEE THE BRAVES this is a bad sports area.
4. It is an expansion team which has no history.

however if the arena were moved, the unsafety perception went away, or if committed owners showed up it could be better.

GaVaHokie

September 6th, 2010
10:14 am

Modin was someone I had considered at the deadline last year. Big player, scores around the net. I’ll agree with Kevin Allen on this one, if healthy, this could be a steal.

I have to laugh everytime a bad signing equals Waddell, and any good sign/trade is Dudley… this is a Dudley decision folks. It’s a typical move of giving a coach guys he is familiar with. If you want to point to “lying”, how about Dudley saying he doesn’t want Coaches to pick players?

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
10:27 am

Fan From Carolina, 76-percent (75%) of the NHL’s profits come from ticket sales. That means, in addition to the luxury booths, the burden of financing does fall on us, the paid attendance. Now, there are some remedies to help you. One of the posters here knows of a website that sells Thrashers tickets at about 1/3 the value. I don’t happen to remember its URL. But someone has it, and can post it. Second, places like Kroger or Publix will occassionally have discount coupons for Thrashers game. Go to customer service and ask. Third, (if you can wait to attend games until December,) if you bring an unwrapped toy or two to the December game you attend, the “Toys for Tots” campaign tosses you back TWO ABSOLUTELY FREE LOWER LEVEL SEATS for each toy you bring, for an upcomg game in January. No, you can’t use it for some premier game, like Crosby and the Penguins. But they do give you a choice of two to three games that are not coveted opponents. A game’s … a game, right? Fourth, during the year, the team will start to seriously discount tickets if things aren’t going well. Fifth, if you have one of those “Entertainment 2011″ books, they usually offer Thrasher tickets at buy one get one free pricing. Sixth, absent any of that, the seats up in the 400’s only cost $10. And if you happen to get sections 409, 410, 411, or 412, you’re essentially sitting at Center Ice, a few scant rows above a person who paid $35 for the same view. That $25 savings will surely pay for parking and some food at the venue. Seventh, the Thrashers usually offer a Coca-Cola Family Fun Pack or Chick-Fil-A package where you get 4 seats, 4 cokes, 4 hot dogs, for $89. I don’t know if that’s a “go” for this season, but a simple check of the Thrashers website should locate it.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
10:36 am

ben, you’re entered in the contest at 94-points, 10th in the East. However, you did not specify a Southeast Division rank, which is the 2nd set of “tie-breaker” criteria. Also, would you like to submit an “Opening Night” budget contest entry? The deadline for that September 20, at 5PM. You have a great shot at winning it, as so far, there have only been two guesses. Mine, at $51.4 million and WBF’s, at 50.0 million. Guesses for Thrashers point totals are due by “puck drop” of Opening Night of the 1st game of the 2010-11 season for the Thrashers. Good luck. For now, you’re just registerd at 94-points and 10th in the East. Last year’s winner was “Pam on Weck.” The 2009 winner was “Don,” via tie-breaker over “Glovesave29.”

kracker

September 6th, 2010
10:52 am

The blogosphere off-season roadshow is in high gear as we approach another hockey season!

Our armchair GMs (AGMs) are their usual vocal selves. You have heard the saying that a “team looks good on paper” but what looks so good then may look less appealing when competing on the ice. Otoh, each year usually brings us a team or two that looks like a group of not-ready-for-prime-timers combined with a few veterans and some misfits “on paper”, then they perform better than expected. Sometimes a lot better, sometimes a little better.

We have a sort of similar situation here with our blogging friends, the AGMs. Their GMing “knowledge” is flawed, it is all of the on-paper variety. Which is to say that it is incomplete, ill-sourced and out of date. How accurate will their devinings prove to be? Only time will tell but the future will surely follow its own path.

Yes, we are here again, camp has not yet started and already our AGMs have spoken. For that matter, rookie camp has not started. Rosters are incomplete, coaches have yet to begin determining the current capabilities of the hopeful and the established players. Lines and pairings are unmade. These unknowns are not a problem for the AGM. They see with a clarity that leaves this mere armchair fan awestruck. Best yet, they will continue to devine the future until the last puck is dropped in the 10-11 season.

The summer AGMs love to pontificate about the certain failure of the local club in the coming season. I like poking fun at our AGMs. They are the low-hanging fruit of the hockey blogs.

kracker

September 6th, 2010
11:00 am

Oh, Flames, thank you for mentioning that a factor in the Modin signing could be as an inducement in getting Bergfors inked. I was thinking that as both were Swedish, that could be the case.

Dudley said early on that he wanted to sign a veteran as a locker room presence. Modin looks to be that signing.

And Flames, your info about a wealthy friend having an interest in investing in the Thrashers is very encouraging. For a guy in the mail room, you do get around!

GaVaHokie

September 6th, 2010
11:06 am

Rawhide… You might want to reread your last sentence of Paragraph one and your Paragraph two… you stuttered. :)

Sage of Bluesland

September 6th, 2010
11:12 am

“…I really believe that Duds knows exactly what he is doing….” [per Flames]

We’ll see. Each opinion and a dollar gets you a cup…

“…The summer AGMs love to pontificate about the certain failure of the local club in the coming season. I like poking fun at our AGMs….”

Nice empty–yet arrogant–bluster; Donny would be proud. This “AGM” could have won just as many playoff games this past decade than the alleged “expert”, too.

How does that grab ya’? Please pontificate from your lofty perch further!

(I need the laugh, that’s for sure)

Barry

September 6th, 2010
11:25 am

I just have two things to say. 1) Why are we signing him? and 2) This BETTER not mean Byfgulien moves to defense. I’m totally and sincerely opposed to that idea.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
11:25 am

Kracker. It’s a blog. If posters didn’t talk about the future/past, what would get written here? And with diminished posts or website hits, the place would disappear. Let people have their fun. Everyone has a right to an opinion, even one that differs from yours or mine or Rawhide’s.

Rosters aren’t set. Camp hasn’t started. And no one knows what will happen until it does. There’s a lot to be determined for the upcoming season. How will the new strategy, post-Kovalchuk, workout? Will our goaltending be better? And our defense? This is why they play the games.

I know this much. It’s going to be a different approach this year. And that, alone, should warrant some optimism, even from the pessimist set. I also think there are some posters who want/expect this team to peak in November. I cannot support that. Any team that peaks in November, is done for the year. But I do think, by Thanksgiving, we’ll know if this roster is a capable one, or will be headed to another bottom third of the conference finish. Honestly, I think the Thrashers are in a favorable position. The expectation isn’t high, which means that if they put it all together this season, there is that “1991 Braves” potential for team interest. In 2005-06, the team made its first MAJOR MOVES outside of lottery draft selections, and expectation level rose very high. Unforuntately, things didn’t go as planned. I think the first game of that season was 2-0 shutout, by Florida. In other words, the waters were chummed up, but there weren’t any fish to be eaten. By the end of the season, the team lost Savard for nothing and missed the playoffs. So, honestly, I think these Thrashers are in a better position, in that fan expectations are low, in a year where there is a new GM and new Coaching staff. Well played, by the organization. There hasn’t been some “super hype machine” about this upcoming season. Good. If the team gets all hyped up, with maxed out cap, then the expectation levels rise and there’s nowhere to go/hide if the season doesn’t result in playoffs. Now, the budget isn’t anywhere near maxed cap, but changes have been made. If Eager, Ladd, Byfuglien, Sopel, Bergfors, Cormier, and Oduya, all players that were traded here, work out for our benefit, this could be a terrific season. To comform to the playoff formula, however, the team must improve its goal differential by 44 goals from last season, to be a +22, and playoff bound. Sans Kovalchuk and Afinogenov.

five_hole

September 6th, 2010
11:27 am

Brendan Put me in for 92 points and 8th in the east.

GaVaHokie

September 6th, 2010
11:52 am

Sage… you would do much worse in Waddells position. How does that make you feel? You wouldn’t know how to put a team together or how to draft… You wouldn’t even know who to hire to scout for you. You’d win maybe 20 games and attendance would be probably 2,000 a game.

I’m gonna AGM the AGMers.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
11:54 am

From TSN.CA, Kovalchuk talks about playing in Russian and Atlanta’s contract offer to him, as posted below.

Kovalchuk said that he never seriously considered returning to play in his homeland.

“Not really, no. I did think a bit about a situation that would be acceptable to me here [in Russia]. But I am just happy about the final outcome.”

As for the massive $101 million contract that he was offered by the Atlanta Thrashers last season that would have helped him avoid this entire mess, Kovalchuk said that he had no regrets in rejecting that offer.

“I am a kind of person who never looks back. I only look to the future. There is no point feeling sorry for the past. You have to live for today and look forward to what’s ahead of you. I will now play for a team that is always a contender for the Stanley Cup. It’s something that I always wanted.”

kracker

September 6th, 2010
12:08 pm

You are right, Brendan, you made a lot of good points. This is a hockey blog where we post out thoughts and ideas about the state of the team and the game. What I love, and have to laugh at, about out AGMs is the utter certainty with which they make their assertions. As Joe Biden would say, “God love ‘em.”

You gave your views, Brendan, in what I think of as normal fan-speak. Statements beginning with or containing the words ‘I believe…’, ‘I hope…”, ‘If…’, ‘I think…’. That is how I think about the season. I have my ideas but I still have to wait and see how it plays out. I look forward to being at the games or watching on TV to see what these coaches and players and our opponents can and will do.

kracker

September 6th, 2010
12:12 pm

Well, that is a real teeth-grinder of a quote, Brendan! It just makes me want to beat the NJD that much more. That may not be a literal locker room quote but as background noise, it will surely fuel some extra zeal on the ice!

Red Light

September 6th, 2010
12:14 pm

I do believe there are a few other Swedes on this team named Enstrom, Oduya and two prospects Klingberg and Pettersson who are actually Bergfors’ peers (closer in age) on the team, but I guess a certain 36-year-old with a one-year contract is the guy who is going to solidify a future Bergfors deal. Now, that is brilliant conjecture.

I believe the purpose of any such blog is to post thoughts, opinions, facts, and opinions based upon facts. Many of us are not beyond reproach as to our own miscalculations concerning the game of hockey, signings, trades, etc., but until Rawhide tells us not to disseminate our own opinions, we’ll continue to do so. The beauty of the sport is that no one is 100 percent right — not Scotty Bowman, not Ray Shero, not Ken Holland and not Rick Dudley.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
12:16 pm

Kovalchuk says things in just such a way as to not be direct, but still deliver his message. Is he lying? No. He always wanted to play for a contender. But notice how he didn’t say, “Atlanta was just such an awful situation. I was happy to leave there.” And, I think, because he didn’t say things like that, fans won’t hate him when he comes here. I won’t “boo” him. And I can only hope that most fans won’t boo him, either. If Kovalchuk didn’t want to re-sign him, you should “boo” the ownership, for their inaction.

GaVaHokie, don’t let Sage get to you. He’s just someone who sees things differently than you do. Any regular poster here has posted something, at some point, that turned out to be false or untrue, or inaccurate. No one can be perfect. No one. If Sage wanted to research a particular poster’s every message, he could attack us all, to embarrass us. But undertaking such an effort would say more about him, than the poster he’s attacking. If you follow. Sage doesn’t like the ownership. And he’s not fond of the management, either. So posters who like and support the ownership and management aren’t going to please Sage. Sage is Sage. You’re not going to change him.

five_hole, you’re in at 92-points and 8th in the East. But you still need to select a finish for the Thrashers somewhere in the Southeast division.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
12:34 pm

Jonathan Cheechoo, a one-time 50-goal scorer, has accepted a ‘tryout’ offer for the coming season. What a sad story that is.

kracker

September 6th, 2010
12:38 pm

Nah, I’m not going to boo Kovalchuk, Brendan. He played here for a lot of years under not the best of circumstances. Making a quote that talks up the new team is what any player does. The fact that he is also sort of back-handing the Thrashers is irritating but not unexpected or, with respect to the dysfunctional owners, unwarranted. I’ll still be wearing my #17 to games. I do have several new sweaters I need to buy, though.

Flagstaff

September 6th, 2010
12:42 pm

My prediction: 88 points, 7th in the East, 3rd in the Southeast. Optimistic? Yes. Impossible? No.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
12:42 pm

Note: Posters might want to postpone their Thrashers point totals entries until at least camp ends. The contest doesn’t close until “puck drop” on Opening Night on Atlanta’s season. Wouldn’t a trade with NJ for Zajac change your point total guess? Just as a hypothetical. I suppose, you can change your vote as often as you like, but your final guess must be entered by the 1st Thrashers game of the regular season.

Sage of Bluesland

September 6th, 2010
12:46 pm

I can tell you one thing, GaVa–I would have drafted Rick Nash instead of Kari Lehtonen in 2002 with that 2nd pick of the draft.

See, I could have done even better than your hero.

(and, please don’t embarrass yourself further by stating that it would have been impossible as “Nash went first!”…do some research on the issues before you bluster…Reminds me of your “incremental progress” arguments…Thankfully, you’ve given those up for the farce they proved to be…)

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
12:47 pm

Flagstaff, you’re entered at 88-points, 3rd in SE Division, and 7th in the East. Good luck. You can change your vote up to “puck drop” of Atlanta’s 1st regular season game.

kracker

September 6th, 2010
12:50 pm

Heck, Brendan, Burma skating like a rocket and dishing passes w/ the big team in pre-season would change my point total a little bit for the better. The same goes for most any youngster or for any player needing to bounce back…like our maligned new acquisition Modin.

Since Burma, another young player or a vet like Modin isn’t likely to really blow us away in camp and pre-season it is like you suggest: Getting a roster upgrade for a proven talent would be most welcome in these parts.

five_hole

September 6th, 2010
12:53 pm

Brendan Let’s make it 3rd in the SE with 92 points & 8th seed.

GaVaHokie

September 6th, 2010
12:57 pm

Let’s see how many Cups Kovy has in the next 15 years… as NJ slowly loses players to cap space. Let’s see who replaces Brodeur.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
12:57 pm

Honestly, any poster, including Sage, could have built an NHL team following this rule: Draft consensus picks, sign them to the max capped rookie contract, and grab players off the waiver wire, as a bottom-feeder team. And if you’re not the slightest bit confident in your actions, reach out to the office of the NHL for guidance. Gary Bettman wouldn’t turn around and say, “Sorry, you’re on your own.” On the contrary, I think Bettman and his staff would love to INTERCEDE in certain markets to STOP THE INSANITY, and provide “advisors” to help cerebrally-challenged organizations. While doing that STILL doesn’t guarantee good results, I think it would help more than it hurts. I think the NHL could run ANY team on a league minimum budget, and still keep it in the playoff picture in March. The NHL has a very vested interest in having its teams operate in a responsible way. It has to set “cap limits” just to reign-in some of these clubs. Remember, teams used to spend $88 million a year chasing the Cup, and still not make the playoffs. FOR YEARS. (See NY Rangers, Toronto, Washington, etc.)

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
1:02 pm

five_hole you’re updated with a 3rd place finish in the SE, to go along with 92-points and 8th in the conference, for the 2010-11 Point totals contest.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
1:13 pm

Hokie is right. The Devils can’t ride Brodeur forever. The first tell-tale sign of his decline … was being pulled in favor of Luongo during the Gold Medal winning effort at the Olympics for Team Canada. I don’t want to say something like, “Brodeur has one good year left in him,” because that sort of sounds stupid. But I don’t think he has 5 years left in him. Brodeur turned 38 in May. Can the Devils really ask a guy pushing 40, to start 65 games? Then two full months of playoffs? No. And their backup is 37-year old Moose Hedberg, whom I adore as one of my favorite Thrashers of all-time. But it is what it is. That netminding staff isn’t young, in New Jersey. Parise needs a contract. And down the road, 3 years from now, Zajac, too. But I know this much. They just landed Kovalchuk at a paltry cap hit of $6.667 million cap hit. If the Thrashers had pulled off the same, we’d be dancing the Cha-Cha, right now. Bygones–and I mean that in a GOOD way. So long as we have the ownership that we do, we can’t have STAR PLAYERS and be a playoff competitive team at the same time. Not while fielding a league minimum type salary cap. Star players cost too much. In Atlanta, and I’ve been saying this since 2003, we ought to try the “depth strategy” that worked so well for Buffalo in 2006 and 2007. But we must have a GM and Head Coach that know how to make that work. And the highest paid player pretty much has to be the goalie. Think the 1999 Buffalo Sabres, who got to the Finals on a team depth and Hasek.

Joe Friday

September 6th, 2010
2:12 pm

“A mentor maybe?”

lol, so we signed Modin as a mentor to Bergfors? Lemme guess, you’re inside sources told you that? laughable.

Same inside sources told you they lost $20m on the Thrash? Public knowledge, Deep Throat.

Your friend is going to buy a sports team? Dude, you’re hitting the trifecta here today.

So Kracker, you’ve got your own trifecta going as well today. Sniffing the poser’s jock, a truly mind blowing take on fans posting on a message blog board, and then quoting Joe Biden. Stop while you’re ahead, my friend!

Joe Friday

September 6th, 2010
2:15 pm

“It’s unfair to compare Modin to Rucchin. Prior to coming to Atlanta, Rucchin had played in 236 games during the prior three seasons before being signed by Waddell, and had 53 goals and 84 assists in those games, although his production had slipped a bit for the Rangers the previous year. His injury was simply bad luck and couldn’t be foreseen. Modin’s last three seasons don’t come close to Rucchin’s numbers.”

excellent. You’re right, I insulted Rucchin, sorry Steve!

Brendan, I’m holding out for the pts. projection till the roster is set, but I’ll go with $51m on the opening night roster.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
2:27 pm

Joe Friday, you’re in on the Budget contest at $51.0 million. You’re right inbetween WBF’s $50.0 and my $51.4 million. It’ll be a nail-biter to crown a winner this year!

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
2:31 pm

Joe Friday, I’m a darned fool, but I keep looking Zajac as something to try. The Devils ARE over their limit. I don’t think they can move Elias or Rolston, unless those players waive their NMC/NTCs. I don’t want Zubrus. I’m not thrilled by Colin White or Bryce Salvador, either. But I’m sure Waddell would be intrigued by them. If we cannot re-sign Bergfors, perhaps trading him back to the Devils, as part of the exchange for Zajac, is a possibility Atlanta would consider? I know. Keep dreaming.

Jameson

September 6th, 2010
2:51 pm

Brendan- Put me down for $47.3million.

Sage of Bluesland

September 6th, 2010
2:54 pm

“…lol, so we signed Modin as a mentor to Bergfors? Lemme guess, you’re inside sources told you that? laughable….Same inside sources told you they lost $20m on the Thrash? Public knowledge, Deep Throat….Your friend is going to buy a sports team? Dude, you’re hitting the trifecta here today….”

Retort of the year–and required reading for those who think Flames is on the ‘inside’ of anything…

Indeed.

kracker

September 6th, 2010
2:57 pm

tweet – I hope no one is assuming Modin gets a top two line spot. He’s gotta earn it, if at all. I just hope he is 100%.

BenThrashers Don’t assume that Modin gets a top two line spot. I wouldn’t mind seeing him with Thorburn and Cormier or Slater on the third. Size & goals.

Jameson

September 6th, 2010
2:58 pm

Wait. I forgot Brashear’s buyout. That’s counted, too, right? $48.7million.

Sparky (Smoothie)

September 6th, 2010
3:09 pm

“Nice empty–yet arrogant–bluster”

You would certainly be familiar with this affliction of arrogance-induced bluster, butt-munch.

Baaaah, baaaah black sheep.

Joe Elliott sings to Brendan

September 6th, 2010
3:13 pm

Paragraph! I don’t want one, paragraph! I don’t need one, paragraph! All I need is a paragraph.

Yeah, it’s enough.

kracker

September 6th, 2010
3:32 pm

A little cross-pollination to enhance the gene pool….

ajcthrashers Thrashers officially announce signing of Fredrik Modin. http://bit.ly/bFqgmH

Thrashers27

September 6th, 2010
4:13 pm

Hmm….I think I can deal with this line-up.

Bergfors Burmistrov Antropov
Kane Peaver Little
Ladd Cormier Modin/Pettersson
Boults/Eager Slater Thorbs

Thrashers27

September 6th, 2010
4:15 pm

…with one caveat being that Burmistrov is as advertised and ready to play with the big boys. Otherwise, we may need some shuffling.

World Be Free

September 6th, 2010
4:29 pm

I have never seem so many people get their panties in a wad over a depth signing.

Alan R.

September 6th, 2010
4:31 pm

True that, WBF. Sigh.

GaVaHokie

September 6th, 2010
5:10 pm

Sage… you can’t even begin to debate players with me. It’s not hard to argue Rick Nash, so stop pretending to be genius on that matter. I know the history quite well. To tie in Brendan’s argument of consensus picks. Do the research yourself and you’ll see Lehtonen, Nash and Bouwmeester were consensus Top 3. No one said Lehtonen was better than Nash. But to build your team through the draft, with no money for UFA, and you have Heatley and Kovy… don’t you draft a goalie or defense.

Use some logic.

GaVaHokie

September 6th, 2010
5:16 pm

Brendan… consensus picks only get you through the first round and barely that.

World Be Free

September 6th, 2010
5:51 pm

You know Alan R, I think we see this signing through similar eyes. In recent seasons every time we have had a player go down with injury we have tried to plug the hole with Joey Crabb or a player of similar skill. I can’t remember having a depth player who has size, could play either wing and has a Stanley Cup ring just sitting on the sidelines ready to fill the gap. Now we have one, his name is Freddy Modin. A guy like Modin will push other players too, just having him there will be a reminder that there’s someone to take a current player’s spot if they don’t perform. Bergfors may benefit from having Modin around, though I do not believe it was a reason for signing him.

To call this a “brutal signing” is brutally stupid, he adds depth.

ben

September 6th, 2010
6:38 pm

Brendan: 94 points / 10th East / 2nd Div. / 50.2 M

Flames

September 6th, 2010
6:49 pm

WOW!!!! What a great chat room. You guys are to rough for me. Sorry I was just trying to give my opinion. Joe Friday! Sage! You guys win! I’m through. I deal with enough smart a$$e$ at work.

James Brown

September 6th, 2010
7:06 pm

Brendan………I`m of the opinion that this is the breakthrough year……103 points. 2nd in the SE and fifth in the East……………………49.6 Mil

SomaAtl95

September 6th, 2010
7:20 pm

Flames, please reconsider. We all have the urge to stop posting at times. I stopped for a few months but couldn’t keep away. Opinions are like rear ends, everyone’s got one.
Brendan – 99 Points, 1st in SE (think the caps will have an off season) fourth seed in east, $49.9
Everyone else – lets take all take a midol and relax! No need to jump on everyone!

World Be Free

September 6th, 2010
7:57 pm

Flames-appreciate you thinking outside the box. I was against signing Max last year, but admitted I was wrong on several occasions last season when he had a great year. Maybe others will follow suit if this signing turns out well.

ranallo10 (in AT)

September 6th, 2010
8:05 pm

Yes SomaAtl95, I still lurk. Sorry to see you got me-ed … it happens to the best of us.

I feel stupid admitting this but last night I dreamt Atlanta dealt Bergfors for Abdelkader. I’m not sure how I’d feel about that if it really happened.

Hokie P. Clisters

September 6th, 2010
8:27 pm

Freddy looks to be a popular name at Thrasher camp. We ought to take a poll to see which, if any, of the Freds make the team out of camp. Pettersson, Modin, Meyers or bust?

kracker

September 6th, 2010
8:37 pm

tweet – I hope and wish….

jmanasso Analyzing the #Thrashers’ signing of F Fredrik Modin. If he stays healthy, he can be the ‘10-’11 version of Afinogenov. http://bit.ly/9AU40D

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
9:11 pm

GaVaHokie, this is going to make me look like a big dummy, but if a team only landed the “consensus” picks off Central Scouting for say, pick # 3 and # 33, (for a 2nd rounder,) and TOTALLY BLEW all the other picks, yet kept those 1st and 2nd rounders under contract, and active on the roster, that particular team would still, quite probably, be doing very well. At least in terms of the building process, which ought to take 4 years, maybe five. Then some smart alec poster would come along to point out that this hypothetical NHL franchise “sucked” at drafting, because it hadn’t put a 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th round pick into the starting lineup. While every GM would love to nail them all, it’s a statistical longshot to do so. The trick, with nailing down these 1st and 2nd round picks, is KEEPING THEM beyond their RFA years. That takes a couple of things. Such as? Committed ownership, willing to “green light” big, or bigger budgets, and making PROACTIVE, longterm contracts, and holding the Armchair GM accountable, if the team falters, either via poor coaching, poor drafting, or poor “vision/philosophy” on how to run the team. That evaluation can be aided by consulting the standings at season’s end. But if this hypothetical team had all those things going for it, those 1st and 2nd round picks might consider staying, after all, rather than BOLTING when the choice of where to play becomes exclusively theirs. Build a winner, and UFAs will start calling during July. But, I wouldn’t even want to do that. That’s too “pricey.” I’d want want to, wherever and to the extent possible, build completely from within. And if it became abundantly apparent that the GM cannot draft, well maybe he had some TRADING skills? Moving a 3rd round pick for a 3rd line player … can start to make a whole lot of sense. Trading a high-end 2nd round pick for a substantive RFA starts to make a lot of sense. Sadly, nothing guarantees success in the NHL. Not spending. Not hiring/firing coaches every 2-3 years. Not lottery draft picks. Not even hiring Scotty Bowman is a sure fire way to fix everything. But I have to believe … that following these very simplistic guidelines … is the key to running a better/successful NHL franchise.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
9:12 pm

Ranallo10, welcome back. What are the prospects for the Vienna Capitals this year?

Rawhide

September 6th, 2010
9:25 pm

Brendan – Put me down for an opening night cap hit of $47.25 mil. As for any season points prediction…I’ll wait until after preseason and training camp. I wanna see what the finished product is.

ranallo10 – Nice to see a post from you again. Hope all is well on your side of the pond.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
9:26 pm

Somatl95, you’re registered at 99-points, 1st in Southeast Division, and 4th in the East, and a budget guess of $49.9 million.

Five_hole, you’re in at 92-points, 3rd, and 8th, with no budget guess.

ben, you’re in at 94-points, 2nd in SE Division, 10th in Conference, and a budget guess of $50.2 million.

James Brown, you’re in at 103-points, 2nd in SE Division, and 5th in the East, with a budget guess of $49.6 million.

Flagstaff, you’re in at 88-points, 3rd in SE Division, and 7th in the East, with no budget guess.

Joe Friday, you’re in the budget contest at $51.0 million.

WBF, you’re in the budget contest at $50.0 million. And I’m in the budget contest at $51.4 million.

Jameson, you’re in the budget contest at $48.7 million. Your guess is the lowest so far. The largest guess is mine, at $51.4 million. The deadline for voting for the budget contest is September 20. The deadline for Thrasher point totals is “puck drop” of the 1st regular season game. That’s plenty of time to register a vote. But it just isn’t fair to those who made the deadlines to allow votes afterward. Except in the case of the budget contest, and exclusive for R.Stroztradamus, who is contractually obligated to post here, on Opening Night, with the correct budget winning guess.

World Be Free

September 6th, 2010
9:32 pm

Brendan-the draft is such a crap shoot, it is tough to judge any franchise by how many players a team gets from each draft. The draft is one thing, UFAs,identifying players in other pro organizations, in Europe and older players in U.S. colleges all count when judging an organization. But I go back to something others have brought up before. My biggest issue with this organization is that they do not control how players are developed in Chicago. The Wolves do their own thing, we can only hope that a developed player fits into the Thrashers’ system, whatever that system may be.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
9:36 pm

Rawhide, you’re entered into the contest that R.Stroztradamus will win, at $46.25 million. Remember, the whole point of the contest is to express what you think of the Atlanta Spirit, LLC’s commitment to winning is, vis-a-vis the Atlanta Thrashers. The lower your guess, the WORSE you feel about their “commitment level.” The higher your guess, the BETTER you feel about their “commitment level” towards winning. The lowest possible guess is $43.4 million. The highest possible guess is $59.4 million. Those numbers reflect the floor and ceiling of the salary cap.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
9:40 pm

Sorry, that was a typo. Rawhide, you’re in at $47.25 million, not $46.25 million.

Rawhide

September 6th, 2010
9:42 pm

Thanks, Professor.

BTW everyone, I’ll be on assignment tomorrow at the Duluth Ice Forum. Look for a new blog post midweek-ish.

GaVaHokie

September 6th, 2010
9:51 pm

Brendan… The trick is also taking advantage of those entry contracts of Heatley and Kovy by surrounding them with proven players. Much like Pittsburg did with Crosby and Malkin.

This team could have made some noise back in 2002, but they kept it cheap and paraded Heatley and Kovy out like the dog and pony show.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
10:13 pm

Rawhide, enjoy your assignment in Gwinnett County. Be nice to the Gwinnetians. They say that “Gwinnett is Great, and that success lives there.”

WBF, I think people reacted so badly to the “depth signing” because we’re so close to the start of the season, and really, prior blogs talked about 3 possible vacancies left on the Thrashers roster. So, needless to say, people saw this signing and thought, “What?” We’ve been waiting for a replacement, if it’s possible, for Kovalchuk or Afinogenov. Plus, the fans of this franchise have long memories, of Dafoes, Rucchins, Krupps, Hurmes, etc. That is to say, players who were on the decline, at a more advanced age, at a diminished salary. And they thought, “What?, again!!” You have to excuse the reaction, when factoring the totality of circumstance. Normally, I’d agree … “What’s the problem with a depth signing?” Truthfully, we don’t know if this is a two-way contract, or what the terms are. Unless they were just announced. And my apologies, if they were. I think people would be much happier if the Modin situation were that of a “professional tryout,” with no contract signed.

Brendan

September 6th, 2010
10:24 pm

Hokie, re: 9:51PM post, that’s very true. This franchise did trot out Heatley and Kovalchuk as their 2-act show, instead of spending some money, and showing the league that the Atlanta Thrashers mean business, moving forward. You’re right. They didn’t put even six top forwards into the lineup. Instead of adding every year, they seemed to lose and replace. Or, said another way, they were practicing zero sum economics. And, of course, they let some pieces go that never should have left. Like Staios, Brunette, Audette, maybe even Shean Donovan and Jeff Cowan. I hoped Brian Pothier might have a future here. But truthfully, had we kept him, we might not have developed him properly enough, the way the Senators did. It’s always so easy to second guess a franchise or GM. But to turn a blind eye to its missteps only leads to repeating the same mistakes. Ya know, I’ve always thought that making mistakes was “okay and necessary,” so long as you learn from them. I don’t know ANYONE who gets it all right, right from the start. You gain knowledge by your failed trials. What is important … is to learn from them. I do not think, not really, that the AS,LLC sets out with intent to fail. But neither do I think, for a split second, that they have their eyes on the prize called the Stanley Cup. And really, as a fan of the team, all I have EVER, EVER asked … is for an HONEST ATTEMPT to win it. We haven’t seen that, since 2005-06. Maybe 2006-07.

World Be Free

September 7th, 2010
5:38 am

Brendan, most of us have been through this ordeal together over the past 10 seasons. I understand how some people feel about the signing, but we also need to put things in perspective too. We are not going to sign another impact player at this stage, nor are the Thrashers going to spend above $50M. The core of players for the upcoming season are pretty well set. This club has made improvements in the off season, without having given up a core players.

kracker

September 7th, 2010
8:16 am

Rawhide, what is your assignment at DIF?

Because there is no mention of an AHL salary, I assume Modin’s contract is one-way at $800K, plus bonuses. Here’s to hoping Modin earns both his salary and the bonuses.

GaVaHokie

September 7th, 2010
8:36 am

Brendan… In 2001-2002, when Heatley and Kovy were battling it out for the Calder Trophy, the team payroll was $15 million… lowest in franchise history…disgusting.

Is that Waddell’s fault? He probably would have loved to fill out a $40-$50 million roster around those guys.

Cliff Fletcher

September 7th, 2010
8:41 am

Hokie-
Great point, and who owned the team back in 2001-2002? Not the current group, I believe. Clearly NOT waddell’s fault.

rob

September 7th, 2010
8:58 am

This season isn’t gonna be about chasing the Cup, I think we can all agree on that. What it seems to be about is getting back to a hard nosed way of playing hockey. Honest effort from the players we have. If we get that, I think we can make the playoffs this year. However, that being said, if we come out and play hockey, and don’t lay down and let teams walk all over us, but miss the playoffs….I can deal with that. But I think the future of this team dictates at least 2 playoff wins either this season or next. And if we make it to the playoffs, who is to say what happens there. Everyone here knows it’s a new season then, and anything can, and often does, happen. So I will continue to hope the team as assembled, will find a way to come together and play inspired hockey, and the coaches will give our young guys the guidance they need to succeed and become solid players here. Will I agree with everything they do? No way. But I will support the team (and by team I mean the players), regardless. Camp can’t start soon enough so we can get a better idea of what will shake out and how the team will take shape.

World Be Free

September 7th, 2010
9:51 am

rob-well stated. I want Dudley hockey, the kind of hockey he played throughout his career; a good effort every night. There is a greater chance of good things happening if this team plays hard together.

Jack

September 7th, 2010
10:20 am

Its going to be interesting if we participate in the Devils trade talks.

kracker

September 7th, 2010
10:31 am

tweet – ajcthrashers Told by Thrashers GM Rick Dudley that negotiations continue with RFA Niclas Bergfors but “nothing pending.”

Hope this gets done before camp. If it gets done.

Brendan

September 7th, 2010
10:37 am

For sure, Hokie, the ownership at that time wasn’t spending any money. And the GM can’t sign players without any money. I think reasonable people can see that. It all starts from the top. And the top is ownership. But, let’s not forget something important. It’s ownership’s burden to enforce accountability. In 2001-02, the goal was … to suck out loud, and get back into the lottery draft. Mission accomplished. Atlanta got the 2nd overall pick in June of 2002. That’s a power position in ANY draft class year. Sage of Bluesland loves to rag on Waddell that he picked Kari with that “critical pick in the evolution of the franchise.” And certainly, I agree with Sage’s assertions of taking either Bouwmeester or Nash with that pick, depending on who Florida/Columbus took with the top pick. However, I have said, in the past, that if it ever came to light that Waddell ASKED FOR Curtis Joseph off waivers, under contract with the Detroit Red Wings at $8 million-per-season, with 2 years remaining, or later on Hasek, or Khabibulin, or Belfour, Kiprussoff, Nabakov, or Irbe, and ownership declined the request, stating words to the effect of, “Don, you want a goalie?? Go draft one,” then I absolve Waddell of that action. Is that what really happened??? I have no idea. I doubt it, but I honestly have no idea. If I had to pick a goalie in 2002, sure … I would have selected Lehtonen. Why? “Consensus” top pick in his goalie class of 2002. But conceptually, I am opposed to taking a goaltender inside of the lottery draft. They take too long to develop. Plus, every offseason, goalies are available out on the free agent market. You get what you pay for. And yes, you pay more. But you PAY MORE precisely because you are NOT enduring the 5 years it takes to properly develop a goalie. I am sorry, genuinely, for the working conditions Don Waddell has endured with this franchise. Hardly ideal. But still, someone has to answer for wins and losses, and team design, and overall strategy/philosophy of how the team is run. Ownership’s dictionary doesn’t contain the word accountability.

Smoothie

September 7th, 2010
10:41 am

Can anyone confirm that Modin doesn’t earn squat unless he makes the team? In other words, is his contract contingent upon being on the final roster before Opening Night? Or do we have to waive him and hope someone claims him so we don’t have to pay him?

I’m thinking he’s only paid if he makes the team. A lot of you are gnashing teeth it seems over what seems to be a fait accomplit, but I don’t think it is. I do believe Modin must survive camp, but I’m not really sure. Anyone?

ChippersLoveChild

September 7th, 2010
10:53 am

Oooh I want to play this contest… Budget at 49.3 million… Point total at 83, 4th in SE, 13th in the East..

R. Stroztradamus

September 7th, 2010
11:00 am

I predict the Thrasher’s payroll will be closer to the cap floor than the cap ceiling.

World Be Free

September 7th, 2010
11:03 am

Not sure but this does look like a contract that is similar to MAx’s from last season. All I know is Modin is better than some of the worthless wonders we have trotted out in past seasons.

glovesave29

September 7th, 2010
11:03 am

92 points – 3rd in division – 9th in the conference

We will get eliminated on the last day of the season. Certainly moving in right direction.

Looking back over the comments from yesterday – I get a laugh, as Sage is the only person I know who’s hindsight is NOT 20/20.

Baaaa baaaa baaaaa baaaaa – someone PLEASE go check the battery and alternator on the long idle Zamboni and let’s get this season STARTED!

kracker

September 7th, 2010
11:09 am

Smoothie, my guess is that if Modin was in camp on a try out contract basis, C Viv would have made that clear. If not in his blog, then in the article printed in today’s hard copy version. Both articles seem clear that Modin has been signed for $800K.

I think if Modin was on a try out, then he would be advertised as coming to camp on that basis the same as Max was last season.

Smoothie

September 7th, 2010
11:17 am

kracker – thanks but I’m wondering if the contract is “guaranteed” or if it starts at September 3rd / 4th and runs to 9/3/11 even if he goes to camp, plays lousy and gets cut. Max didn’t have a contract going in, this I understand, but I’m wondering if the ASG is on the hook even if he gets cut before Opening Night. In other words, will we have to waive him and risk paying him for absolutely nothing? I just don’t see him agreeing to a demotion to the AHL. He’d probably bolt to the KHL as there is no transfer agreement govering such a decision.

Jack

September 7th, 2010
11:27 am

7th in conference 2nd in SE. Not sure the methodology of predicting thme last or 3rd for that matter.

kracker

September 7th, 2010
11:30 am

Yeah, I don’t know. I saw your tweet to C Viv. Hopefully he will clarify. Either way, I figure Modin will be humping it during camp to try to nail down a line spot.

R. Stroztradamus

September 7th, 2010
11:38 am

I predict the Thrashers will have somewhere between 60 and 120 points.

Yes Brendan, it’s the “Magic Power” that drives my profound abilities.

Jack

September 7th, 2010
11:43 am

LOL I am also predicting that they will win between 2 and 84 games. :)

kracker

September 7th, 2010
11:46 am

Ben tweets that Stewart Cink was named to the American Ryder Cup team.

Paminski

September 7th, 2010
11:49 am

Thanks for keeping track of our predictions, Brendan. Please enter my guess as 91 points, 8th in the East, 2nd in the Southeast.

GaVaHokie

September 7th, 2010
11:52 am

Brendan… You’re also assuming that Waddell and scouting weren’t already looking at the depth in the 2003 draft… If they hadn’t taken Lehtonen, the only franchise goalie available in next years 2003 draft was Marc Andre Fleury (who obviously went first).

Lehtonen was a phenom coming into the draft. A guy considered ahead of the curve. Defensemen take just as long to develop as goalies, but are a dime a dozen in any draft year… and besides, Jay Bouwmeester sucks!

I still don’t understand people saying Atlanta should have drafted Rick Nash… how exactly was that supposed to happen?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/draft02/trades.htm

glovesave29

September 7th, 2010
11:54 am

In the spirit of the all knowing Stroztadamus – I make the bold prediction that there will never be an undefeated team in the NHL…unless the league whittles the schedule down to just one game. Then I predict half the teams in the league will go undefeated.

Viking

September 7th, 2010
11:54 am

There must be something Dudley & Co see in Modin – likely the same as Bengt-åke Gustafsson (formerly Capitals player and coach for the 2010 Swedish Olympic Team) saw in him. To Swedes, it was a big surprise that Modin kept a player like Michael Samuelsson (and others) out of the Olympic line-up.

As long as he is cheap, I hope whatever it is they see in him is worth keeping a young guy from NHL play in a Thrasher uniform.

GaVaHokie

September 7th, 2010
11:57 am

Oh, I get the conspiracy now… you don’t think Florida would have traded the #1 pick if Atlanta wouldn’t have “promised” not to take Bouwmeester.

GaVaHokie

September 7th, 2010
11:59 am

Pfft… who had Atlanta at #28 in the Power Rankings… no love!

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=332979

GaVaHokie

September 7th, 2010
12:06 pm

Sorry, I meant #26.

ChippersLoveChild

September 7th, 2010
12:14 pm

Damn I had 27… one off..

Jack

September 7th, 2010
12:15 pm

Thats a serious bad joke for our”Canadian friends” at TSN.

Smoothie

September 7th, 2010
12:20 pm

Hopefully after a surprising season this year where we challenge for the # 8 seed or perhaps even make the playoffs, we will be able to lure in a UFA who says somethng like this:

“You don’t want to go to a team that’s already accomplished,” Dunta Robinson said. “You want to build something. That way you feel like you helped instead of jumping on the bandwagon like some guys do. I definitely feel that I can help this team get to where they are trying to go.”

In free agency, Robinson ordered his agent to negotiate solely with the Falcons. He wanted to be on a team he thought was on the rise in the NFL. — from D. Orlando Ledbetter’s blog

Will an NHL player with cache ever say that about the ATL Thrashers?

Alan R.

September 7th, 2010
12:20 pm

Indeed, WBF, Modin does add a bit of depth. Have we ever seen an Atlanta team with this much depth before? If we have, I can’t remember it.

To me, Modin serves two purposes. First, he adds a bit of competition during camp. Having players like Modin present will force the kids to work that much harder to make the team. The spirit of competition brings out the very best in everyone.

Number two, assuming Modin makes the team, he would be a good trailing forward. Someone who can sneak into the slot late and pound one home. I’ve seen some of what Modin can do. He might not be the fabulous superstar everyone wants to see since Kovalchuk departed, but I think he will do fine here.

I was against the Afinogenov signing last year, for the very same reason some are against the Modin signing today: Injury history. Modin is older than Afinogenov, sure; however, let’s also consider that we haven’t even seen the players play a pre-season game yet, much less a scrimmage game.

Relax, naysayers. Chill out. At best, he has a good year and puts up a moderate number of points. At worst, he sits in the press box with injuries that befuddle even the greatest physicians while someone like Machacek takes over for him.

Zombie Steve

September 7th, 2010
12:27 pm

Cheechoo invited to the tryouts eh?? Wouldn’t it be great if this guy beat his demons, we got him on the cheap, and he busts out a 40+ goal season for us?

Zombie Steve

September 7th, 2010
12:28 pm

Anyone else stoked about NHL 11 coming out today?!

Smoothie

September 7th, 2010
12:29 pm

Alan – well said sir. And yes, if Modin doesn’t work out, we still have Machacek, Pettersson and even Rismiller (shudders) waiting in the wings. No pun intended.

I still would not be surprised if Dudley makes another trade. That’s what he does, for better or for worse. And remember everyone, Dave Andreychuk was 38 when Tampa won the Cup. Of course, he wasn’t injury-plagued like Mr. Modin.

GaVaHokie

September 7th, 2010
12:34 pm

Zombie… Cheechoo was invited by Dallas, not Atlanta.

GaVaHokie

September 7th, 2010
12:43 pm

Funny… if you read the comment chain under the Power Ranking article, the Canadian fans are in a real tizzy. Anything saying the Leafs are worse than Atlanta has thumbs down.

Everyone get over there and fight back with your thumbs. :)

kracker

September 7th, 2010
12:45 pm

I see TSN has not rated the Laffs yet.

I don’t think these are credible power rankings. I see them more as “Let’s get Canadia[e]ns fired up so TSN gets more web traffic” rankings. Not that I really blame them from a capitalist point of view. TSN will net far more hits from their Canadian base than from several thousand hockey fanatics in Atlanta and the SE USA.

If the Thrashers’ play this season warrants it, the folks at TSN can clean it up with the occasional ’serious’ hockey analysis article that gives credit where credit is due. Much the same as our brethren at the NYTimes operate, just to name one political rag, with the occasional somewhat fair and balanced op-ed piece.

CA Thrashers Fan

September 7th, 2010
12:56 pm

This is a solid, no-risk depth move. That it has generated so much negative response is absolutely baffling to me. Modin played very solid hockey for the Kings down the stretch, was one of their most effective 2-3 forwards in the playoffs, and his leadership in the locker room elicited praise from both coach Terry Murray and GM Dean Lombardi. That he was not re-signed by the Kings for this low a contract has come as a huge surprise to Kings fans.

Fact is, Ramsey and the Thrashers have a ton of depth and plenty of options this year, which is a characteristic of successful franchises. One can lament about the myriad of third liners, but bottom 6 types are every bit as much (if not more) important to successful playoff runs as any top skill guys. At best, Modin can slot into a second or third line role, be a presence on the power play, and put up 20 goals. At worst, he has cost practically nothing. At the least, he will force some of the youngsters to EARN their way onto the team, rather than being handed a spot, and will provide leadership along the way.

Come on Thrashers fans, enough of the doom and gloom. Dudley is putting his mark on this team, and while some may not like it, for a fan base that has said for years that there needs to be changes and different directions, we are actually finally moving in one. Great character guy, great signing…one can never have too many Cup rings on a roster.

Zoomo

September 7th, 2010
12:58 pm

It will be interesting to see some of the PP combinations that get worked on in camp. I wonder if they’ll deploy Modin, Buff and Antro in various combos in front of the crease?

While we don’t have a lot of pure scorers to throw on the PP, we sure have a lot of beef. Could make for an interesting dynamic – Bogo, Toby, and Pevs firing at the net with Buff and Modin in the crease in full screen, tip in, and put back mode. Perhaps?

Sage of Bluesland

September 7th, 2010
1:06 pm

GaVasheep finally gets the 2002 draft…He’s pretty quick, too.

For the nth time, Florida coveted Bouwmeester and would not budge from the top pick unless we gave them our assurance we would not take him with the 2nd pick. Thus, Florida makes the trade with Columbus (who was at 3rd). Thus, as has been blustered before, we “get the player we wanted all along” in the glass-groined wunderkind who was years away from contributing to the team…

All it was was a much-needed play for time….time that bumbling Donny desperately needed, as his “legends of Blueland” were a figment in the collective sheeps’ imagination…See, to make it simpler for you concrete-heads: THE DRAFTING WASN’T PRODUCING…THE DRAFTING WASN’T PRODUCING…THE DRAFTING WASN’T PRODUCING (from 1999 to 2002)….

Instead, we get treated to the sheep and their proclamations (as taken from the organization’s braintrust): Just you WAIT until this kid makes it to the parent club! He’s the REAL thing!

Uh-huh. Then we heard of GaVasheep and Ranallolamb’s “incremental progress” excuse, year after excruciating year.

Welcome to FINALLY understanding the 2002 draft, GaVa and how we completely flubbed it up…I called it then and was absolutely correct. I also took a lot of flack from the “geniuses” around here, too, as I think about it….I wanted budding offensive superstars to anchor three lines–and Nash would have looked wonderful in a Thrashers uniform.

It would have lessened the loss of Heatley, that’s for sure.

(Oh well, most of them are too embarrassed to show themselves here these days…Nothing new–just have to educate a new wave of lambchops…)

Oh, and it must hurt to truly know that I–even I–could not have done much worse than your hero during the past decade…I could have, after all, won just as many playoff games as he has…

So funny, our resident “genius” finally gets the 2002 draft…Like I said earlier, real quick there…

kracker

September 7th, 2010
1:06 pm

Nice analysis, CA Thrashers Fan. I particularly liked you saying “Fact is, Ramsey and the Thrashers have a ton of depth and plenty of options this year, which is a characteristic of successful franchises.” It seems to me this is where a talented coaching staff will excel by choosing and implementing the correct options (ie. player and line/pairing combinations) at various phases of the game that is being played on a given night.

Sage of Bluesland

September 7th, 2010
1:09 pm

Looking forward to the next sheep stating, ignorantly, that “there was no way we could have drafted Rick Nash in 2002…he went first to Columbus!”….

For the n-th time…

kracker

September 7th, 2010
1:10 pm

Zoomo mentioned something that I have been wondering about. Would Modin be sucessful fronting the goalie? Has he played at the crease before?

CA Thrashers Fan

September 7th, 2010
1:22 pm

kracker, he has the size to front, and is capable of it, but that’s not really his game. He’s closer to a Franzen than a Holmstrom type, good hands, great shot, uses his size well, but probably a bit wasted when being clobbered in front of the goalie. I could see him as the secondary screen/rebound guy as well as being the slot/far-side shooter on the PP.

alex

September 7th, 2010
1:23 pm

sure we added some depth, what about scoring, asg think we are stupid, depth price – 800000, scoring price – frolov in ny – 4 mil, or poni in la – 3 mil. imagine asg somehow assembled defence with: chara, lindstrom, pronger, phaneuf, doughty, keith. still not to many games can be win by score 1:0, we in the mix got valabic and sopel. really, who going to score some goals. instead of point predictions what about total goals predictions, kovy, max, kozy, army all gone, nobody know how antro will fit after surgery, he still not 100%. are we going to hit 200 mark in total goals and what lottery number in draft we going to pick up this is only question remained if current roster stays. and please don’t expect more than 9 from burmi. he be a hero if he score 10. miracle with #8 pick does’t happen in current nhl. by the way, on any real nhl team not on levenson cheap one, he need at least one, probably two years to develop. sorry i am finished asg cheap idiots get my blood pressure boiling.

Zoomo

September 7th, 2010
1:31 pm

With his shot, it’s true that Modin might be wasted in the crease. But, with him advancing in age, I wonder if they may experiment with that. If he were used in the slot/far-side shooter, we could really go big, with him, Buff and Antro, coupled with two guys at the point.

As I said, it’ll be interesting to see the oombos in camp. Many ways it could go. Unlike years in the past where we bascially knew the top 5 for the PP befor camp started.

Red Light

September 7th, 2010
1:32 pm

In my mind, signing a depth player for a team that has one playoff appearance is laughable. Yes, this roster is improved in many regards. Yes, this team should be able to compete for a spot in the Top 8 of the East. Yes, I am looking forward to a new style of play that combines the type of strong-willed behavior that both the head coach and the GM displayed back in the 70s and 80s.

There are two points that I feel need to be made, and one is which I stated before…1) this team needs a playmaker, and 2) if Antropov’s hip or some other malady befalls him during the course of the season, where are the points coming from and who is going to distribute the puck?

You go into a new season with a guy who has far surpassed his zenith (Peverley) in terms of point production, a guy who has yet to take his first professional face-off (Burmistrov), a guy who is projected as a solid checking line center (Cormier) who still has an upcoming court date, a guy with a career high of 14 assists (Slater), a 20-year-old who has played in three AHL games (O’Dell) and another guy who primarily has played wing in his 206 NHL games with 51 assists (Little) who could move to center, and of course, the speed merchant (Kane) could be called upon to move to center as well.

In my view, that’s one hell of a lot of uncertainty at the center position. If all works out for the best in all these scenarios, then Dudley’s wielding a huge horseshoe. If not, no matter how many wings or depth players you have, someone still has to get them the puck. Pure and simply, there’s a shortage of playmakers, and in this day in age of puck possession and distribution, it helps to have centers that can do both.

That’s the main reason I don’t like the Modin signing, because this team is missing something. Perhaps it won’t be an issue, but I’d sure as heck would like them to close the gaping hole rather than patching any potential leak.

CA Thrashers Fan

September 7th, 2010
1:33 pm

Frolov took less than market value to go to NY, Poni is arguably overpaid for what he put up last season (he was scratched in the playoffs on a team with NO wingers). What really jumps out at me about this team is less the concern over goals scored, but the likelihood of those gaudy goals against numbers going down. Down the stretch last year, with no Kovalchuk, this team was let down by a lack of consistency and composure on the defensive side and in goal, not due to any lack of firepower.

SomaAtl95

September 7th, 2010
1:33 pm

TSN is the Jeff Schultz of Canada. Grrrrrr… and most of the people who post on there about our team make Sage look like miss congeniality.
Zombie, I am excited NHL 11 is out, picked my copy up on my lunch break :)

CA Thrashers Fan

September 7th, 2010
1:39 pm

Red Light, you make valid points about the center position. What center, that you think reasonably would have come to Atlanta, would you have liked to seen, or would still like to see signed? I’m pressed to think of any that were available, save for someone like Matthew Lombardi, who does not really fit in with the style of the new Thrashers build.

World Be Free

September 7th, 2010
1:40 pm

Zombie-Cheechoo needs someone feeding him pucks int he slot on a regular basis-no Joe Thorntons here.
Alan R-Modin has some intangibles that may halp the team.
Reference by some folks as to what happened in 2002-it’s history.

GaVaHokie

September 7th, 2010
1:57 pm

Sage… um, no I understood it just fine before. I just forgot what the ridiculous “conspiracy” was.

Lehtonen was not a bad pick. It only became a bad pick because of injury. This team never finished above .500 until Lehtonen jumped in net. I’d say that’s a considerable impact.

The Thrashers and Lehtonen made the playoffs before Rick Nash and Columbus.

The Blue Jackets are a perfect example of what you wanted. You want to see what it looks like to take a goalie off the open market (Marc Denis, Fred Braithwaite) and then draft high-end forwards (Zherdev and Nash)for more depth? There you go… worked out great, didn’t it?

Red Light

September 7th, 2010
2:05 pm

This summer was brutal for centers, CATF, no question. At this point options are scarce. I thought the move should have been made during a prior trade or around July 1. However, I would have taken a flier on a struggling 30-year old like Comrie, or even Morrison who had 30 assists last season before Modin. A deal could be forthcoming, but strong up the middle is my personal preference particularly since wing was already addressed.

hip czech

September 7th, 2010
2:19 pm

I’m still holding to the Bergfors for Zajac deal going down…thus providing us with a center.

Zajac is due 3.9 million I think…trade Bergfors to NJ, they sign Bergfors for 900K and they have their cap problem solved.

I would be OK with that (I’m also OK if Bergfors is here for the long haul).

Prediction – 90 pts, tied with TB for 2nd in the SE, 8th or 9th in the East (I always hope the SE gets 3 teams in the playoffs to shut the Canadian media up).

Carolina, TB, Atlanta, anyone of them could finish 2nd. Does Carolina do their every other year thing? Can TB get any kind of consistent goaltending? We know the questions around the Thrashers.

R. Stroztradamus

September 7th, 2010
2:35 pm

Anyone want to start taking the over/under on games played and goals by Modin?

kracker

September 7th, 2010
2:47 pm

Freak accident.

jmanasso Sounds like something out of a farcical movie. RT @PasteMagazine: ELO Cellist Killed by Rolling Hay Bale http://bit.ly/crbdHi

Smoothie

September 7th, 2010
2:48 pm

Wow, the cup of hope runneth over. Lots of predictions for the Thrashers to win 40 or more games (north of 86 points). Obviously we lost a lot of close games last season, but will Craig Ramsay and Torch coach them up to the point where they can a) better protect a lead and b) not play so carelessly in the OT?

I do think they will be improved and a fairly well-rounded team, but I don’t see such an improvement where they win 6, 7 or 8 games more this season. Right now, I’m thinking a record of 39 – 43 – 6 for 88 points is very realistic. But I’m not ready to commit to that just yet. Wanna see training camp and late Sept developments (e.g. Mad Max coming in on 9/20).

CA Thrashers Fan

September 7th, 2010
2:50 pm

Red Light, I agree 100% with the need to be strong down the middle. I think Dudley has taken steps to start securing the center with guys like Cormier and Burmistrov, but it takes time to build that stability from within. If it turns out that Cormier isn’t ready for Prime Time by the end of camp, I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see us picking up a guy like Morrison, or maybe even a trade for someone like Jarret Stoll (who may be available depending on if Brayden Schenn makes the jump for LA).

hip czech, I would be shocked if NJ gave up Zajac. I only see that being possible if Josefsen or Henrique are really on the upswing and Lou thinks Zajac has hit his ceiling.

kracker

September 7th, 2010
2:50 pm

It will be interesting to see if Burma can maintain his game carrying a new 20 lbs or so.

dankamal Burmistrov weight watch update: He eked over the 180 plateau to 181 at a recent weigh-in. Asked if he still felt fast as, Alex said “Yes.”

Smoothie

September 7th, 2010
2:52 pm

*I’m thinking a record of 39 – 43 – 6 for 88 points

Ummm, I meant to hit the ‘3′ key, not the ‘4′…mi scuzi.

39 – 33 – 10 would be nice. Hell, 39 – 35 – 8 would be a good indication that they are trending in the *correct* direction. ;-)

hip czech

September 7th, 2010
2:57 pm

Jersey has to move somebody…NOBODY is going to touch Rolston’s contract. Zubrus would be a reach too at his salary. Langenbrunner only makes 2.8 so that’s not quite enough to move.

Zajac may HAVE to go. At least they could get a young asset in return in Bergfors, not to mention a player they are already familiar with.

Makes too much sense to me. But then again I’ve never even won our fantasy league :-)

Zombie Steve

September 7th, 2010
2:59 pm

Kracker:

Hay, Hay, Hay…..Gooooodbye

Smoothie

September 7th, 2010
3:03 pm

http://video.bluejackets.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlp=8460556

http://video.bluejackets.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlp=8460556

If Freddy can score goals like this, he’ll be very popular here in ATL. I just hope he doesn’t piss off Big Buf by trying to take his # 33!

Smoothie

September 7th, 2010
3:11 pm

Oh, and here’s one where he fronts the goalie and re-directs a PP goal.

http://video.bluejackets.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlp=8460556

In fact, if you watch his hi-lites on NHL.com, you get a sense for why Dudley “hired” him as he scores in the paint, either on put-backs or on re-directs on 70-75% of his goals. He’s a load in front of the paint and makes us that much harder to play against. He may in fact be just what we need on the PP.

Modin in front, Antro roaming, Pevs at the half-wall with Bogosian and Enstrom. Me likey.

GaVaHokie

September 7th, 2010
3:16 pm

hip czech… I think we can keep Bergfors for cheaper than Zajac’s current salary.

Thrashers27

September 7th, 2010
3:20 pm

That TSN rating is total BS. You can tell they didn’t do their homework. Claiming the departures of Slava, White, Army and Max were wholly detrimental to the team. PFFFFFTTTT!!!! I don’t think all of those guys combined scored as much as Ladd and Buff last year. Give me a break, TSN! You want to rank us at #26, fine, but at least back it up with legit information. I really like our neighboring country to the north, but in this case I gotta say…Cana-DUH!

Zombie Steve

September 7th, 2010
3:21 pm

Soma – same here. What flavor did you get: PS3 or 360?

hip czech

September 7th, 2010
3:23 pm

Hokiie – agreed, and I’m OK with keeping Bergfors. But if we really were looking for a center that would seem like a decent deal to me. I don’t know the length of Zajac’s contract, but he is still only 25. I’d rather trade one young player for another to fill a need then sign a Comrie or a Morrison.

I’m not sold on Antropov as a top line center, still think he would be better on the wing. If anything, move Little to center and see how that works out. Would we be comfortable with Little/Peverley/Cormier or Burmistov/Slater down the middle?

kracker

September 7th, 2010
3:24 pm

Bergfors for Zajac perhaps could be possible, hip czech, who knows? CA Thrashers Fan mentioned above a couple of centers in the NJ system that might be ready either now or soon. “Next year” (meaning the 11-12 season) isn’t so long a time when you are penciling in Kovalchuk in your lineup for the next 10 or 12 years.

GaVaHokie

September 7th, 2010
3:24 pm

Smoothie… you’re right about Modin being great around the net. He’s a guy who can put home loose pucks. With Enstrom, Bogosian, Oduya and Hainsey taking shots from the point… between Modin, Antro and Buff, we’ve got a lot of guys who can put home any rebounds, deflect shots, or just screen the goalie in general.

Not to mention just playing garbage man to guys like Jimmy “I can’t finish a shot” Slater.

CA Thrashers Fan

September 7th, 2010
3:38 pm

I just don’t see how NJ justifies trading their young #1/#2 center for any reason. That leaves Arnott, at the very end of his career as their top true center. That’s just not a move Lou makes. They do have cap issues, but that is as easily resolved burying Rolston or a similar bad contract in the AHL if they have no trade options. Even if Zajac was on the move, New Jersey is winger heavy (and trading Zajac would make it more so), so Bergfors is not nearly as attractive a piece for them as Cormier would be.

Zombie Steve

September 7th, 2010
3:44 pm

Time for Lou to cough up some talent. Who we gettin’?

CA Thrashers Fan

September 7th, 2010
3:48 pm

Unless you’re interested in Zubrus, Rolston, White or Salvador…nobody.

kracker

September 7th, 2010
3:52 pm

Yep…Well, the NJ owner probably can afford to flush $5 million up to Albany. Must be a nice position to be in as a GM.

CA Thrashers Fan

September 7th, 2010
3:57 pm

No kidding kracker, makes me respect a GM like Poile, considering his resources, that much more.

kracker

September 7th, 2010
4:04 pm

The Preds are our model, I think. A reasonably talented team playing hard most every night.

Smoothie

September 7th, 2010
4:20 pm

I do believe Rolston has a NMC and no one will want Salvador or Zubrus. Well, someone might want either, but Waddell ain’t callin’ the shots! ;-) NJ has too many guys with NTC or NMC which is going to make it a bit dicey for them getting under the cap.

Damn, I’ve watched about 42 of Modin’s goals and when he’s healthy, he is a lot more dynamic than I recalled. Of course, he hasn’t been totally healthy since 2007, but playing on a line with Nash and Federov or Vyborny and Zherdev, he was a very good “finisher” with some occasional flair or “sauce” when streaking to the net or utilizing his long reach on power moves. He *could* end up being a steal.

"Rammer"

September 7th, 2010
4:28 pm

As soon as Nash and Federov or Vyborny and Zherdev show up in a Thrashers uniform, please let me know!

Smoothie

September 7th, 2010
4:34 pm

Nevermind, Rolston has a NTC, not a NMC. Welcome to the Lowell Devils Brian!!

Brendan

September 7th, 2010
4:47 pm

Anyone else call Comcast today, only to hear that the “early bird” special for Center Ice has expired? WTF? It’s a month before the season starts, and the “early bird” is gone???

SomaAtl95

September 7th, 2010
4:52 pm

Zombie – PS3. Past few years I had both but its a million times easier to do custom soundtracks and playlists on the PS3 so I’m PS3 exclusive this year.

R. Stroztradamus

September 7th, 2010
4:55 pm

The over/under numbers are as follows 14 goals and 56 games.

You pick over or under for each.

Brendan – I figured you needed something else to keep up with.

Brendan

September 7th, 2010
5:02 pm

R.Stroztradamus, I’ll go with under 14 and under 56 on Modin. My actual guess is 12 goals and 50 games on the nose.

Brendan

September 7th, 2010
5:05 pm

EastPointBob, you’re in at 60-points, but you really should specify a division rank and conference rank.

Paminski, you’re in at 91-points, 2nd in SE, and 8th in Conference.

Jack, buddy … you didn’t make a point total selection. But I have you down for 2nd in the SE and 8th in the Conference. Picks aren’t due until puck drop of the 1st Thrasher game, so… you still have time.

Glovesave29, your guesses are always super close. In 2009, you nailed the points, but lose on a tie-breaker to Don. You only missed by a point or two in 2010. But you’re in at 92-points, 3rd in SE division, and 9th in the Conference. Chipper’s Love Child, you’re in at 83-points, 4th in SE division, and 13th in the Conference, with an opening night budget guess of $49.3 million. Good luck.

Paminski, are you also known as “Pam on Weck?”

Jack

September 7th, 2010
5:07 pm

Sorry Brendad lets go with 93. :)

Smoothie

September 7th, 2010
5:14 pm

Stroz – I’ll take the over on both, what the heck?! 16 goals and 76 games played. I feel crazy today!

Mikey

September 7th, 2010
5:16 pm

Brendan, put me down for 91 points, (although I think I’m a bit optimistic), and an opening night cap of $45.1 million.

Oh and I think I know what Rawhide was doing in Duluth while on assignment. He tweeted a little earlier “Spent about an hour with coach Ramsay this morning. The man has a definate sense of what he needs to teach this team. Details to come later”

Rhythmpenguin

September 7th, 2010
5:54 pm

Put me down for 92 points, 2nd in the SE, 8th in the East and $47.5 mill on opening night.

Rhythmpenguin

September 7th, 2010
6:04 pm

Can we change our guess before opening night?

glovesave29

September 7th, 2010
6:20 pm

Smoothie – The Lowell Devils moved back to Albany. The logo is a hoot…its SUPPOSED to be an “A” in the same style as the NJD logo…but to me it looks like a devil, um…pleasuring himself.

http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?id=2h0n5ksngzhak39566aheqmyt

World Be Free

September 7th, 2010
6:41 pm

I would have taken Jeff Halpern over Modin, just cuz I like Halpern’s grit.
Save $200 grand too

Brendan

September 7th, 2010
6:45 pm

Rhythmpenguin, you can change your budget guess until September 20th. At that time, the budget contest closes, and no more guesses, except R.Stroztradamus’, will be accepted. You may, however, change your points guess until puck drop of the 1st regular season Thrasher game. No guesses will be accepted after that.

Sorry, but it’s not fair to accept a guess on October 30, when the guesses were due 3 weeks earlier. Yet, it doesn’t stop people from trying, even as late at December 30, to squeeze in an entry. Doesn’t work like that, son.

Mikey, you’re in at 91-points, but you don’t have a SE division finish, nor a Conference rank. And sadly, that means if someone else guesses 91-points and correctly ties it to the 1st tie-breaker criteria, “division rank,” you will lose. But, it’s up to you to submit a SE division rank and 2nd-set of tie-breaker criteria, “Conference rank.” I can’t and won’t force you.

Jack, your “new” official guess is 93-points, 2nd in SE Division, and 7th in the Conference. Good luck, Jack.

Brendan

September 7th, 2010
6:47 pm

Smoothie, I have not entered a guess for you, or Joe Friday, since I know you both want to evaluate camp and the preseason before submitting a guess. And that’s a wise strategy. The roster is NOT set.

World Be Free

September 7th, 2010
6:59 pm

Lou Lam was once a great GM. But when you look at his current aged lineup, with the no movement clauses and overpaid players – the Devils are clearly a team that is not going to contend for a Stanley Cup anytime in the future. Roloston’s contract is one of the worst pieces of paper in the league. Add Elias, Zubrus and Salvador too. How in the world are the Devils going to sign Parise next year?

Lou, like his team, is past his prime.

Brendan

September 7th, 2010
7:07 pm

WBF, your contempt for Lou Lamoriello is ever consistent.

Red Light

September 7th, 2010
7:25 pm

Like Halpern too, World Be Free, as I grew up five minutes from Princeton where he played his college hockey and I loved playing on that rink as a Pee Wee or Bantam because it was one of the few that was enclosed in those days. Also had a cousin who worked at the rink. He used to let me sneak in the back door for games, through the Zamboni room to save the $1 to get in. Another benefit, he used to sharpen my skates for free, and got me an occasional stick and all the pucks I could fit in my pockets.

Saw Syl Apps and Co. play against Ken Dryden in 1968 there, and about 17 years later… Joe Nieuwendyk, also for Cornell. Then, on a visit to see my folks 30 years later, saw Halpern play too, whose teammate was Syl Apps, Jr. Ah, the aging process.

Red Light

September 7th, 2010
7:27 pm

Actually, it was Syl Apps Jr. in ‘68 and Syl Apps III in 1998. See, my memory is fading.

Mikey

September 7th, 2010
7:30 pm

Brendan, OK then put me down for 2nd in the division and 7th in the conference.

World Be Free

September 7th, 2010
8:31 pm

Brendan-I had alotta respect for Lou until recently. His deal with Kovy is bush league, his team is old and out of cync. They will win their fair share of games next year, but they are not Cup contenders. Kovy hitched his wagon to the wrong mule, but he got his money.

Red Light-growing up in the north, there were 2 great places to have friends-at the bowling alley and the hockey rink. Our “buddy” let us skate from free from 2AM to 3AM on Wednesdays-one of 2 hour slots our twin rinks had open all week during the season. He also got us ice time at Memorial Auditorium during the Sabres’ homestands.

thrashersuperfan88

September 7th, 2010
9:02 pm

I really smell a strong stinch of a trade coming up anyone??????

Smoothie

September 7th, 2010
9:07 pm

glovesave – thanks, didn’t think that sounded right, but I don’t understand why they ever left Albany to begin with. Their run to greatness all started there, right in my old backyard in Albany. At the Knickerbocker — now Pepsi or Times Union — Arena, 4 or 5 short miles from my old ‘hood.

At any rate, I’m happy my former fellow citizens of the Capital District will get to enjoy a hybrid trapping style of play and perhaps the occasional appearance of an old aging vet like Rolston or Dainus Zubrus. Bring back the River Rats!!

World Be Free

September 7th, 2010
9:21 pm

Red Light, I think Halpern is under rated, also a bit old now too, like Modin. Halpern will be for the Habs what Dom Moore was for them last year and Steve Begin before him. Grit and sandpaper.

rob

September 7th, 2010
9:49 pm

ANY PROMO PEOPLE FOR THE THRASHERS MONITORING THIS BLOG WE NEED SOME REAL PROMOS TO GET THE SEATS FILLED!!!!!!! There is a recession going on here and we are rebuilding and need all the help we can get here! Get you A$$ES together and fill the arena please! I know this sport is really foreign to most of you but PLEASE don’t let this change in progress be for naught because you can’t find a way to get reasonable seats out to the fans! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! The Boys In Blue will be fun to watch this year!
LET’S GO THRASHERS!!!!!
Is it 10-8-2010 yet!?!?!?!?!?

Brendan

September 7th, 2010
10:39 pm

Mikey, your adjusted guess is now 91-points, 2nd in SE, and 7th in the Conference. Your budget guess of $45.1 million is the lowest of all those presently registered. The highest, believe it or not, is mine. And I never COULD HAVE GUESSED that my opinion of the Atlanta Spirit, LLC would be the best guess they got, at $51.4 million. Ahhh-stonishing. Joe Friday is next, at $51.0 million. And neither Joe nor I are particular fans of the current Thrasher ownership.

Brendan

September 7th, 2010
11:12 pm

R.Stroz, still here? If so, I assume your vote is “under” on whether or not Modin will score 14 goals and play 56 games this season. I’ve got Smoothie at “over,” with 16 goals and 76 games. I’m in at “under,” with 12 goals and 50 games. R.Stroz, all I need is an over or under, but if you’d like to predict an exact goal total and game total, have at it. Of course, you can defer to R.Stroztradamus, after Game 82, to cast your vote.

Brendan

September 7th, 2010
11:22 pm

Rob, I’ve said it before, if the Thrashers offered two FREE season tickets for the purchase of THREE at FULL PRICE, I think they’d be doing great, and that fans would band together to divide out the cost of three (3) season tickets by five. Imagine that you work in an office. You and four buddies could take advantage of this deal quite nicely. Imagine that you’re a member of a Church/Synogogue/Mosque situation. You can’t find four members of the congregation to split season tickets 5-ways? Neighbors? Family members? Three season tickets, to get two FREE, is a great way to fill the arena, in a bad economy, with a team whose history includes far more failure than success. Winning fixes everything. But until then, if the Thrashers want to move the merchandise, they’ve got to offer deals like this. All you can eat seats are a nice concept. So is Coca-Cola Family Fun Packs and Chick-Fil-A nights, etc. But for a team that is trying to qualify for higher revenue-sharing, the 5 for the price 3 deal is a plan that will work. But, so far, this deal is not on the table. Who knows? Maybe someone will read this, and suggest it at their next meeting.

SomaAtl95

September 8th, 2010
1:07 am

Love NHL 11. Hate the fact that its Canadians that set the roster so far. The oilers appear to be rated better than the Thrashers! WTF? They need to fix that when they start updating the roster! Last year Mason was a decent goalie in NHL 10 in STL. All of the sudden that he has a Thrasher Uniform on he seems to suck in this years game. Since when does putting a different teams uniform on make you a worse player? My roommate played me (first game for years has always been Thrashers v Thrashers) and he beat me by one point… the game winning goal was his and was by his first star… Todd White. Does that show you guys how off their player stats are so far? I really hope that get the first roster update out and its a little more realistic – they’ve decided that the Thrashers suck out loud and we all know that isn’t the truth! A game is a game and of course will be slanted towards certain teams, if EA insists on calling it a simulation then they need more lifelike stats for the players!
Any of you that have played have any thoughts?

World Be Free

September 8th, 2010
5:29 am

I haver decided to boycott TSN and Hockey Night in Canada’s between period shows all season. I had enough of their Canadian propoganda last season. Might as well set the standards before the season starts.

Rhythmpenguin

September 8th, 2010
5:39 am

I think we have a some work to do before the Canadians realize that we are not as bad as they want us to be. They seem to need to rag on other teams (in “nontraditional” hockey markets) to make themselves think that they are better than they really are. =)

Fan from Carolina

September 8th, 2010
8:15 am

Brendan, thank you for taking the time to write all that info about the tickets BUT most of it does not apply to me or anyone that lives in western NC. No Publix, no Kroger, no Entertainment books here. A game is not just a game to me. I don’t want to see the Panthers or Wild or Islanders. I want to see the clubs I want to see at a fair price. The Canes (Raleigh is 5 hours away), the Caps, the Rangers, etc.. I do NOT want to sit in the 400 level. I’m accustomed to the lower level seats from my past and I had to settle for the 2nd level as it is. I was just trying to attend some games that were worth the 2 hour drive and to see the clubs that I wanted to see in decent seats. I can’t do it at a reasonable price. I’ve already bought my $45 2nd level seats for this year so it is settled, but attending NHL games this year will probably be my last. If I lived in the Atlanta area I could probably manage more games as you have pointed out many opportunities, but amazingly I’ve gone from season ticket holder in the 90’s to non-attendance in the future. Fortunately NHL Center Ice is available at a cost of less than 1 attended game for me. I am grateful for that. Thanks again for your time Brendan. You are a good guy!

Brendan

September 8th, 2010
10:49 am

Fan From Carolina, maybe while you’re here, you could stop by the ticket window and if the Thrashers would offer you any kind of deal for ‘Canes games, if you explain your situation, of being 5 hours away. Sometimes, but not always, a ticket representative has a hook with another club on discounted airlines, hotels and seats. If that’s the case with the Hurricanes and Thrashers, there might be a nice package out there for you? But, if history is any guide, you’d have commit to doing it now, to get the discount. Sometimes, I find, that I can shop my own airlines/transportation and hotel for cheaper than the Hurricanes or Thrashers might be able to provide.

I know you’re in sticker shock. It happens to the best of us. When I see the salary cap rise to $59.4 million from $39.0 in the space of six years, while the league AGREES to “dollar cost averaging” player’s contracts between the ages of 21-40, it sort of makes cringe. That’s why the tickets are so high.

I’m not going to lie and say I’ve never bought a $10 seat, just to get in the building. Once inside, … if ya know what I’m sayin’. Just sayin’. The arena often has 9,000 fans that seats 18,545. You might just find the seat you want, after all.

Paminski

September 8th, 2010
10:56 am

Brendan – Yes. I used “Pam on Weck” for a minute. But Paminski is my usual alias.

Brendan

September 8th, 2010
2:01 pm

I like the handle, “Pam on Weck.”