Hey Thrasherville, It’s five o’clock somewhere so…

At 5:00 this afternoon, so we’ve been told, we’re finally going to hear from the league office regarding the latest chapter of this summer’s saga, “As The Kovalchuk Turns”. If the revamped contract is accepted, then it will all finally come to a merciful end. If not, it will just seem like another one of the Thousand Steps To Nowhere in this drawn out fiasco.

Why was there a delay in the announcement? Well, to hear Larry Brooks of the New York Post tell it, it’s because the NHL has given the players union somewhat of an ultimatum. They’ll agree to “grandfather” in the contracts of not only Kovalchuk, but also those of Roberto Luongo and Marian Hossa. Both Luongo and Hossa will be entering into the second season under their deals. In return, the league wants to amend the current CBA to change how salaries affect the cap, specifically for those that take the player past the age of 40.

If the NHLPA refuses to show An Attitude Of Gratitude and rejects the offer, then the league return the favor by not only rejecting Kovy’s contract, but they’ll also move to devoid Luongo’s and begin a formal investigation of Hossa’s.

For What It’s Worth, there have been reports that the NHLPA denies any such ultimatum was given to them. As Puck Daddy’s Greg Wyshynski puts it…”Ah, the subtle nuance between “ultimatum’ and ‘strongly suggested’. We saw it every week on ‘The Sopranos’”.

Well, it is New Jersey, after all.

Whichever way it is, when 5:00 rolls around we’ll know.

Maybe…

Hopefully…

We’ll see…

But ya know what else happens at 5:00 pm today? Millions of Americans will spew forth from their places of work to begin their long Labor Day weekend…the traditional end of the summer vacation season.

But heck, as the old song goes, it’s Five O’clock Somewhere, so I say…unlike the NHL in regards to Kovy’s contract decision… why wait? Why not just go on and kick this holiday weekend off right now. Your License To Chill is officially activated now, so feel free to turn Thrasherville into Margaritaville. Just be careful not to step on any pop-tops.

Go on…have a good time. After all, if we couldn’t laugh we would all go insane.

Many will use this long weekend to visit family or just sneak in one last one last trip to the beach before autumn chills the air. Others will stay home and finish off the summer season with a nice backyard grilling sessions, enjoying a Cheeseburger In Paradise. And I’m sure some will be dealing with some sort of Honey Do list, given you have an extra weekend day to finish whatever project(s) she has you working on.

More than a few, I’m sure, will spend the weekend performing their own brand of Barstool Boogie starting tonight, will continue Defying Gravity through Saturday and into Sunday, then Come Monday…well, it’ll be alright. If you choose to indulge at a public establishment, I certainly hope you don’t wind up in a place with 10,000 Seats And One Bathroom.

Regardless, let’s just make sure that you don’t withdrawal too much from your Bank Of Bad Habits. If you do feel that you have A Lot To Drink About, please be responsible. Be Young, Be Foolish, Be Happy…but also be safe.

Now, for those of you who may be heading towards the Coast Of Carolina, or even further to the northeast, be aware that Earl is already in the process of creating some havoc there. You could find yourself Surfing In A Hurricane.

If you're making a last run to the beach, drive safely and have a great Labor Day weekend. Remember the sunscreen thought

If you're making a last run to the beach, drive safely and have a great Labor Day weekend. Remember the sunscreen thought

Around Thrasherville however, I don’t think the weekend forecast includes even A Little Bit Of Rain.

If your heading the opposite way…say to south Florida to check out all of the Beautiful Swimmers…things should be better as you visit your cousins down there. I mean, Everybody’s Got A Cousin In Miami, right?

I’ll leave this blog current for the weekend’s discussion of Thrashers hockey and all things Kovy. But don’t worry, you won’t be Abandoned On Tuesday as I’ll be back with a new entry. Until then… wherever it is you may go to acquire your Changes In Attitudes – Changes In Latitudes, I hope you all have a great Labor Day weekend.

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R. Stroz

September 3rd, 2010
8:40 am

Dandylions

September 3rd, 2010
8:40 am

Hope everyone has a great holiday weekend!

GaVaHokie

September 3rd, 2010
8:43 am

I’ll be catching up on some much needed sleep this weekend… trying to get this baby to sleep longer than 3 hours at a time. *yawn*

I’ll wake up just in time for Va Tech v. Boise State on Monday night!

Jeff97

September 3rd, 2010
8:43 am

Rawhide – enjoy your holiday weekend. at least we will now have college football to entertain us until hockey starts…Go Jackets!

GaVaHokie

September 3rd, 2010
8:44 am

So, if Hossa and Luongo’s contracts get “grandfathered”… wouldn’t Kovy’s original deal be considered “grandfathered”?

GaVaHokie

September 3rd, 2010
8:47 am

Per Darren Dreger on Twitter… Good discussions Thurs between NHL and PA, but no settlement. Kovy deal is tied to this, so postponement today seems likely at this point.

GaVaHokie

September 3rd, 2010
8:52 am

Colorado resigns Chris Stewart for 2 years $6 million… he had 64 pts (28 goals) last year, compared to Bergfors 44 pts (22 goals).

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=332441

This should help move along the Bergfors discussions… for better or worse.

kracker

September 3rd, 2010
8:52 am

tweet – DarrenDreger Good discussions Thurs between NHL and PA, but no settlement. Kovy deal is tied to this, so postponement today seems likely at this point.

“….postponement seems likely…” groan

kracker

September 3rd, 2010
8:56 am

No two situations are alike, Hokie, but yeah, hopefully this will get some meaningful negotiations going. I am good with something like $2.25M-2.50-2.75 for three years.

BG33Brown

September 3rd, 2010
8:59 am

Rawhide, thanks for taking the time to do some many blogs lately. Much appreciated. And if you have to choose from a series of doors this weekend, be sure to pick door #3.

Not Blind

September 3rd, 2010
9:00 am

After seeing the deals that Price and Niemi agreed to I can’t believe how much Kari Letemin got from Dallas.

five_hole

September 3rd, 2010
9:01 am

Even though you were going with the Jimmy Buffet thing, I’d still have preferred the Grateful Dead’s “Box of Rain” over “A Little Bit of Rain”.

I just saw this in Yahoo Sports;
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/NHL-2010-11-Season-Preview-Wrestling-with-Atlan;_ylt=Avb9bDbui483ejL1ZXSbrup7vLYF?urn=nhl-266944
Nice review. And Puck Daddy had postings of Cindy “nutting” Valabik and Evander laying the smackdown on Matt Cooke. I recommend the article.

five_hole

September 3rd, 2010
9:28 am

And Bill I just want you to know the aftereffects of your other blog. All morning, I’ve been hearing “Looks Like We Made It”. Thanks a lot.

sisu

September 3rd, 2010
9:34 am

glovesave29

September 3rd, 2010
9:42 am

Sisu – beat ya to the punch on that one already in yesterdays blog!

Hope everyone has a great holiday weekend. Get that football fix satisfied!

Anyone else here hope that Kovy gets “Lindrosed”? He goes to NJ and never gets the Cup, but the team he left (that’d be us) does? Eric “its all about Me” Lindros dissed the Nordiques when they drafted him and forced a trade to Philly. Never got his cup. The Nords become the Avalanche and win two. It can be argued that the huge cache of players Quebec got for Eric was the reason they won it…or you can say that was ‘ol Karma take a big ol bite outta his backside. Surely the Habs would have never traded Roy to the team had they stayed in Quebec…again debateable. I go with bad Mojo attributed to Mr. Lindros

Rhythmpenguin

September 3rd, 2010
9:43 am

Thanks five_hole. Every time I see that video it makes my blood boil and I am still dumb found that the NHL never did anything (don’t want to tarnish one of their pretty boys?)! What makes me the most angry is not that Cindy Crotchby hit Boris in the crotch, but that Cindy was the third man in and should have been suspended for that. I love Boris’s reaction! I think it really speaks to his character.
Here’s for for Boris (or anybody else) smashing Crotchby through the glass at Philips this season!

Chris

September 3rd, 2010
9:58 am

“It’s 905, time for a drink!” – that’s the slogan of 905 Liquors in St. Louis.

“It’s September, time for hockey!” – well almost – that’s my slogan anyways.

R. Stroz

September 3rd, 2010
10:00 am

Rawhide – You forgot a Buffett song…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wFpvRMIIEM

SomaAtl95

September 3rd, 2010
10:01 am

Rhythmpenguin – unfortunately it would take something of Michael Vick proportions before the NHL does anything about that nut punching crybaby’s unsportsmanlike conduct. I saw a replay game on the NHL network a few weeks ago and all Crotchby did was complain to the refs AT EVERY STOPPAGE. I’d love to see the pens go down the toilet, especially after they spent so much on their new home.
RE: Kovy – I just want it over. I hope they rule against him. If he would have not lied to us the way he did and was honest about his intentions from the get go, I’m pretty sure nobody here would care what happens to him, instead he was “Committed to winning in Atlanta” to our press and then was happy to be with a “First Class Organization for the first time” once he leaves here. I’m glad Hossa got his name on the cup, at least he was honest about not wanting to be here, and it became a media story after getting so close for 2 years. I hope they NEVER sully the cup by putting KOVALCHUK on there. I’d rather see Hossa, Savard, and Heatley combined on the cup than to see #17’s name on there…
Anyone out there think I’m holding a grudge?

ChippersLoveChild

September 3rd, 2010
10:07 am

Will there be a practice/skate on Labor Day? Anyone know? I’d love to go watch the boys skate for an hour or so.

ChippersLoveChild

September 3rd, 2010
10:08 am

Maybe we can send Bergfors back to them and they can deal with his contract and we can take the Kovy headache on… I kid, I kid.

Rhythmpenguin

September 3rd, 2010
10:14 am

SomaAtl95, Yeah I know…the thing that gets me is the third man. How is it not third man in when another PIt. player was already holding Boris. This is the one thing I don’t like about the league. They let stuff like that slide.

SomaAtl95

September 3rd, 2010
10:25 am

I posted on TSN.ca a few days ago – still rings true about the Kovalchoke saga:
pgbruiser – you hit the nail on the head there. Not that many of you will finish reading this comment once you realize its being posted from Atlanta, but Kovy was not a superstar that people make him out to be. The great players like Gretzky with the Oilers, or even OV and the Caps or Crosby and the Pens (and it hurts me to say anything positive about Crosby)is that they not only want the glory of being elite, but they work(ed) with their teammates to make their teams grow. Here in Atlanta we have the chips stacked against us, Lousy Ownership, an Idiot of a GM (who is now gone), exceptionally poor marketing and a whole country to our north that covets and talks trash about our team and fans (after stealing our first franchise a generation ago)and we’re still here, still defending ourselves. Atlanta fans (more than the 8 or 10 that you guys usually say)were upset about Kovy because we feel lied to. Up until the day he was traded he told the local press ‘I want to stay here, I am committed to winning in Atlanta’ and the sad part was that we based our offense on him – he was great on offense when he wasn’t cherry picking shots or skating figure 8’s instead of using any defensive mindset while on the ice. If he stays on the Devils just wait, Jersey fans. What he says off the ice and what he actually does on the ice are 2 different things and unfortunately you guys will not see it until it is too late and you’re stuck with a one way player who will ‘punish’ your team with poor play if things aren’t going his way. Is he exciting? Yes. Did he ever show he was a leader and team player in Atlanta? Not one bit. Losing #17 was the best thing that has happened to the Thrashers. You all can resume bashing our city, team and fans now since its the easy thing to do.

GaVaHokie

September 3rd, 2010
10:57 am

Okay good… that settles that… now someone sign Guerin.

per twitter DarrenDreger rumour: Mike Comrie has agreed to contract with the Penguins.

John

September 3rd, 2010
11:12 am

I really want Bergie.

Red Light

September 3rd, 2010
11:15 am

Another stroke of genius in Tampa.

Yzerman hires Steve Thomas as a player development consultant. He will oversee all of the Lightning’s prospect players.

Mikey

September 3rd, 2010
11:15 am

Nice way to send us off on a holiday weekend, BlogMaster.

Pass the rum, please.

Smoothie

September 3rd, 2010
11:20 am

“Another stroke of genius in Tampa.”

Don’t know if its a stroke of genius, but the media really loves stroking the “genius” of Steve Yzerman.

We’ll see if things are any different. I mean they don’t even have Antero Nittymaki! How will they beat Atlanta now??? ;-)

kracker

September 3rd, 2010
11:23 am

per twitter DarrenDreger: Mike Comrie has agreed to contract with the Penguins.

For $500K.

John

September 3rd, 2010
11:25 am

I read on a Swedish hockeypage. Bergfors will play if he gets 1 million. There is not much money.

Right now:
Fredrik Pettersson $900.000
Niclas Bergfors $800.000

Ridiculous.

R. Stroz

September 3rd, 2010
11:27 am

The ASG is…everyone join in….CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP.

Vitamin Z

September 3rd, 2010
11:28 am

Kovy’s decision might not even come today. How long will this drag on!?

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=332498

Diego from Lilburn

September 3rd, 2010
11:33 am

me: “…blew out my flip-flop, stepped on a pop top…”

my son: “Dad, what’s a pop top?”

I feel soooooooo old. I must need a brand new tatoo!

Rawhide

September 3rd, 2010
11:38 am

Hmmmm…if I read the new e-mail flyer that was sent out advertising Thrashers ticket pre-sale starting today, the new slogan/theme this year “A Brutally Good Time”.

Beats the snot outa “The Hockey Way”, I guess.

Badger Bob

September 3rd, 2010
11:40 am

I notice on my “Blueland Insider” email this morning the phrase “A Brutally Good Time”. Please please tell me that isn’t the new slogan…

Badger Bob

September 3rd, 2010
11:41 am

Great minds think alike, or at least think about the same thing at the same time. I’d take The Hockey Way over Brutally Good Time.

Alan R.

September 3rd, 2010
11:42 am

John – Got a link? I’m interested in reading that.

Smoothie

September 3rd, 2010
11:43 am

How about “Opening a Can of Whoop-Ass Across the League”??

Honestly, if we aren’t offering Bergfors in the neighborhood of $2 – 2.5 M per season, then Dudley needs to be put in a strait-jacket and committed down at the Emory psych ward!

Alan R.

September 3rd, 2010
11:44 am

I’ll take “Brutally Good Time.”

While this new slogan isn’t much better than pet food vomit from an animal that eats too quickly, it at least conveys the perception that this team is bigger, meaner, and stronger.

World Be Free

September 3rd, 2010
11:45 am

Smoothie-total agree, the media is making Yzerman out to be the next Toe Blake/Sam Pollock. Please.

We need Bergie and a UFA-come on Dudley!

SomaAtl95

September 3rd, 2010
11:46 am

Lets just hope “Brutally Good Time” means for our fans, not for the opposition :)

And thats The Hockey Way!

Rawhide

September 3rd, 2010
11:56 am

How about, “We’re Moving In The Right Direction”?

SomaAtl95

September 3rd, 2010
12:09 pm

Since everyone wants the season to just get here, maybe the “unofficial” slogan of Rawhides blog should be “Lets get Pucked up!”

Red Light

September 3rd, 2010
12:12 pm

“Watch the Thrashers take on the two-time defending Southeast Division champion Washington Capitals and Alex Ovechkin for “A Brutally Good Time”

Does that work for you?

GaVaHokie

September 3rd, 2010
12:13 pm

I just hope it doesn’t go from “A Brutally Good Time” to just plain “Brutal”.

sisu

September 3rd, 2010
12:14 pm

Great comments all the way round. This summer we made it to Toronto and visited Gretzky’s as well as Hockey Hall Of Fame. It was really sad to see the Thrashers display featuring Todd White, I wonder who might be there now? The hall was well worth the visit but one should not miss Gretzky’s, that was awesome place and full of hockey stuff from years ago.

Back on topic, did anyone read the Duds interviews on the teams website? Sounds like he is happy with the team the way it is and confident that they will win. I hope he is right

http://thrashers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=536548&navid=DL|ATL|home

sisu

September 3rd, 2010
12:16 pm

this was the part I was referring to…

I think we’re in a position where we could add a player Because of some of the players on our team we have great flexibility as to whether that would be a forward or a defenseman. In particular Dustin gives us that advantage that if a very good forward came along we could do something with him on defense or if a very good defenseman came along we could leave him at forward. We’re very flexible there.

Red Light

September 3rd, 2010
12:21 pm

Smoothie, World Be Free…

Kubina, Gagne, Clark, Ellis, Moore and Bergenheim added to Downie, Vinny, Marty, Stamkos, Ohlund and Hedman. Pretty decent line-up wouldn’t you say?

I’m not ready to crown Yzerman with anything, but he has made some very solid moves and has surrounded himself with a lot of good hockey people: Tom Kurvers, Pat Verbeek, Greg Malone, Julien BriseBois, Guy Boucher and Wayne Fleming.

five_hole

September 3rd, 2010
12:23 pm

Diego from Lilburn You wanna feel old? Try telling your kids about getting calls on a party line.

And between Chris and glovesave29 Just how many ex-St. Louisians do we have here anyway? I used to go to the 905 on Olive in U. City, by 81st street.

kracker

September 3rd, 2010
12:30 pm

Yep, “A Brutally Good Time” is certainly open to interpretation.

Hopefully, those brutal games where the opposing goalie has a Lazy-Boy and his fave beverage wheeled out to his crease at the middle of the 1st period are a thing of the past. I can understand getting comfy to watch the game but that is supposed to be in your own living room — now while defending your goal.

R. Stroz

September 3rd, 2010
12:31 pm

Well at least the slogan isn’t “Lets Get Physical”, then again the new generation may not get the joke.

Kind of like when I yelled at a 22 to 25 year old Pittsburgh fan last season, the idiot said the game over. I retorted “Over, over, was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, hell no?”

The idiot kid yells back, “Stupid, the Germans didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor..

In the words of Ron White, “You can’t fix stupid.” Ron White should know.

kracker

September 3rd, 2010
12:32 pm

Five_hole – We had a party line. Ours was one long and two short.

Alan R.

September 3rd, 2010
12:47 pm

Mikey

September 3rd, 2010
12:50 pm

SomaAtl95, I like it and second the motion.

Get All Pucked Up with the Rawhide’s Rowdies Thrashers Fan Club

GaVaHokie

September 3rd, 2010
12:55 pm

I remember everyone saying the same thing about Tampa when they were picking up Malone, Vrbata, Tanguay, etc… we’ll see.

GaVaHokie

September 3rd, 2010
12:56 pm

TSN just started their 30 Teams in 30 Days Power Rankings segment… Oilers start it off at #40.

Care to guess where the Thrashers end up?… I’m going to say #17.

GaVaHokie

September 3rd, 2010
12:59 pm

Oilers at #30, I meant… oops.

Smoothie

September 3rd, 2010
1:00 pm

Wow, they’re really down on the Oilers eh? Ten spots outside the league?? LOL Guess they like 10 or so AHL teams ahead of them? ;-)

Mikey

September 3rd, 2010
1:01 pm

I thought you were just making a funny, GaVaHokie.

Alan R.

September 3rd, 2010
1:05 pm

Hokie, it was better if you had left it at #40. :P

World Be Free

September 3rd, 2010
1:05 pm

Red Light, of the new Tampa guys you names, the only 2 I like are Ellis and Kubina. Gagne is old and injury-prone, on a one year deal then he is off to somewhere else. Bergie couldn’t mae it in Lond Island. The Bolts still have a crappy defense. Vinny is looking very old these days and he is not, along with the elephant contract of his. Bolts have to find some way to resign Stamkos too. I like St. Louis, but he is getting long in the tooth too, to be an imoact player.

Smoothie

September 3rd, 2010
1:06 pm

R/L – every year Tampa’s the most improved and they haven’t finished worth a damn since 2007. Just like us. We’ll see.

Mason = Ellis

Sopel = Kubina

Gagne > Byfuglien

Ladd > Moore

Clark > Meyers???

Bergenheim > Eager

Ohlund’s getting older, but that’s a very solid top 2 with Hedman. Kubina makes for a very good 2nd pairing, but will he tire down the stretch like he did here in ATL? His body doesn’t seem to hold up. I like our depth on the blueline better than theirs. They have the edge in scoring most likely, but we don’t know how big a jump Kane, Little, Buf and hopefully Little will enjoy in their numbers playing more mins.

Goaltending is a push I thnk. Who’s the better coach? I’m leaning towards Ramsay as he has NHL experience. But we’ll see. Should be very interesting. TBL and ATL should be battling it out for 2nd and the 8th playoff seed in my estimation.

Sage of Bluesland

September 3rd, 2010
1:07 pm

Now we’re talking slogans, huh?

Yep, that’s about right…that little ‘Blueland’ flag must have run its course…but, that’s a good thing…

How about, “We re-arranged the deck chairs…Really…”

Ron White was right–and so was P.T. Barnum…

World Be Free

September 3rd, 2010
1:08 pm

Ohlund moves with the speed of growing wood

SomaAtl95

September 3rd, 2010
1:11 pm

I have a dream, a dream where Canadas teams situate the bottom 3 spots in each division – a dream where we start rumors about more Canadian clubs relocating to New Orleans, OKC and (just to really tick Canada off) Oakland – Since they already have the Raiders, how about the Oakland Looters, or (since the city has pot dispensaries and state funded growers) the Oakland Smokies. Attendance may not be the best there, but I’m pretty sure the concessions sold would be top notch!
In all seriousness though, I hate the typical Canadian response to our Thrashers and pretty much any team south of Pennsylvania. The people are nice, the cities are beautiful, but the hockey fans are the biggest jerks I have ever met. Hopefully this season puts them in their place :)

World Be Free

September 3rd, 2010
1:11 pm

Sage has new sloguns-
“Roll out another five year plan” or “Feed the Sheep”.
Oh sorry-those have been his sloguns the past 4 years (or more).

Blah blah, or should I say Bah, bah

SomaAtl95

September 3rd, 2010
1:13 pm

each conference. My bad.

SomaAtl95

September 3rd, 2010
1:18 pm

Way to show “Sheeple Pride” WBF!

GaVaHokie

September 3rd, 2010
1:23 pm

What’s funny is that Eklund has picked 5 Canadian Teams to make the playoffs this year, and Edmonton was one of them.

Flames

September 3rd, 2010
1:23 pm

Dudley is trying to sign Bergfors to a long term contract. It’s isn’t as much about money as it is about the length. I was told that the Thrashers want to lock down Bergie for 3-5 years. Bergfors wants more money if he signs a longer contract. He will signed the long contract if gets the money he wants towards the end of his contract. He will take less money for a 1 or 2 year contract. Duds thinks that Bergie needs to prove himself before he gets the big money towards the end. That is the problem. They have to meet somewhere in the middle.

SomaAtl95

September 3rd, 2010
1:25 pm

Badger Bob

September 3rd, 2010
1:27 pm

Sage seeks wisdom from a drunken comedian and hoaxster (and wrongly credits the hoaxster for a quote; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_Giant). What a fount of knowledge and wisdom is the mighty Sagebrush!

Joe Friday

September 3rd, 2010
1:29 pm

I love Ron White. Red Light reminds me of Ron White–the scotch, cig, and witty droll one liners part, not the stupid part, but you keep sniffin’ Yzerman’s jock and I may have to reconsider that!

I’m with WBF and Smoothie, although Kubina’s the only signing I’m impressed with.

Rawhide

September 3rd, 2010
1:30 pm

Flames – That would explain things alright. Thanks for the let-know.

Badger Bob

September 3rd, 2010
1:32 pm

TSN won’t push Les Thrash above #22. It doesn’t profit them to do so.

Joe Friday

September 3rd, 2010
1:32 pm

“A Brutally Good Time”

How many times did I walk up to the club bar at the end of a period and look at the fellas and mutter “just brutal”.

I think they should have stayed away from that slogan, but we’ll see.

World Be Free

September 3rd, 2010
1:36 pm

Soma-I thought it up when I saw that article of the 2 sheep caught on the ledge under the bridge.

JF-Ron White is clearly the funniest of the 4 Blue Color guys. His story about the NYC judge is classic.

Flames I was thinking term was the holdup with Bergfors and it makes sense. Pay the may to lock him down for 3-5 years.

GaVa-reading Eklund is like dating a fat woman-can be fun, but you just don’t want your friends catching you doing it.

GaVaHokie

September 3rd, 2010
1:36 pm

Viv’s got a Ben Eager blog coming up soon… looking forward to that.

SomaAtl95

September 3rd, 2010
1:40 pm

WBF – I take it you’ve owned a moped too? I’ve dated all shapes and sizes and didn’t care if my friends caught me with a bigger girl as they know I’m not a shallow person and curvy women like to have more fun :) Curvy over a popsicle stick any day of the week!

kracker

September 3rd, 2010
1:55 pm

Ilya sporting his colors at the link…

tweet – mirtle RT @dchesnokov: Kovalchuk is training with Ovechkin in Russia. Look at his gear – no doubt where he wants to play http://bit.ly/c3Qbt7

Rhytnmpenguin

September 3rd, 2010
2:03 pm

Nice find Kracker

sisu

September 3rd, 2010
2:09 pm

Kracker, I think it was due to it being a free jersey? ;)

ChippersLoveChild

September 3rd, 2010
2:22 pm

I’ll put us at #27 on the TSN power rankings… it’s TSN.

glovesave29

September 3rd, 2010
2:23 pm

Five_hole – I was born in STL, but moved a loooooong time ago when I was just 5. I’ve been in Atlanta since 1976. This is home to me.

I read Eklund just to know what is NOT going to happen. Anyone can make a bunch of random predictions – eventually something will fall into place. I mean really – a few days ago he predicted that both the Oilers and Leafs will make the playoffs. I’d bet a sizeable hunk of change he goes 0 fer 2 there! He’s wrong almost as much as Kypreos!

Smoothie

September 3rd, 2010
2:25 pm

Thanks Flames for the info. Duds needs to consult an economist instead of Don Waddell when negotiating with Bergfors’ agent. If you want term to lock him up into his UFA years, ya gotta pay more. Not only does the time value of money make the price go up, but if you are high enough on a kid to lock him up LT, then you must put your money where your mouth is…or in the ASG’s case, put your mouth where your a$$ is and pull some of the loot out of your tight collective butt!

Smoothie

September 3rd, 2010
2:29 pm

For the record, Kypreos has scooped the hockey media on 3 of the last 5 or 6 major signings. I wouldn’t put him in Eklund’s class. Hell, I wouldn’t put anyone in that class, save for Sage and his sagacious musings on what happened yesterday.

kracker

September 3rd, 2010
2:30 pm

sisu, I am pretty sure all his jerseys are free ;) …for him, that is. NJ will be paying a lot.

Rawhide

September 3rd, 2010
2:37 pm

Per Darren Dreger tweet: TSN says deal between the NHL & NHLPA has been reached & they’re working on paper work for 5pm.

On again…off again…now back on.

kracker

September 3rd, 2010
2:38 pm

If Flames is right, isn’t this just a case both sides stretching things out so each feels he got what he wanted – which is to say that on each side, they didn’t accept too quickly.

English Teacher

September 3rd, 2010
2:59 pm

Boat Drinks,
Boys in the blog ordered boat drinks,
STH painting the home rink,
Summer is taking too long.

Lately, NHL’s got Kovy cryin’
His Devil’s contract? There not buying.
The salary cap says it’s wrong.

Ninety degrees ain’t no hockey games on,
I’m tired of sweating and mowing the lawn,
Drinking boat drinks,
Well, at least Charmin is gone.

glovesave29

September 3rd, 2010
3:01 pm

Rawhide – Burnside at ESPN is reporting the same.

Smoothie

September 3rd, 2010
3:02 pm

Tom Gulitti says its a done deal too…holy crap! They met the deadline.

Smoothie

September 3rd, 2010
3:08 pm

Nice job English Teacher, but I already had that tune stuck in my head thanks to Rawhide!! Damn it. :-)

Brendan

September 3rd, 2010
3:47 pm

Kracker, Mike Comrie has a better deal that that. He’s married to Hillary Duff, and they live in a $3.85 million, 5,260 square foot, 5-bedroom, six and a half bath Beverly Hills mansion, with an enormous pool, in the gated Summit community.

Nothing captures it like a visual display. Enjoy: http://x17online.com/celebrities/hilary_duff/hilary_duff_and_mike_comries_new_385_million_mansion-06122010.php

Rawhide

September 3rd, 2010
3:51 pm

Smoothie – Sorry ’bout that dude. Would you like me to replace it with another Manilo tune?

Smoothie

September 3rd, 2010
4:05 pm

No worries Bill, I’ve replaced it with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE_0phcztXM&feature=related

The Day Hath Finally Come?!!

Joe Friday

September 3rd, 2010
4:39 pm

Kovy gets his super payday, the union and NHL kiss and makeup, and it’s 5pm . . .here! I think this calls for everyone to hit the door, roll open the sunroof, crank up your Clash/Who/Dead/Mettalica/or Barry Freakin’ Manilow and get on home and have a beer or thirteen, fellas. Have a great weekend, all

Brendan

September 3rd, 2010
4:43 pm

SomaAtl95

September 3rd, 2010
4:46 pm

Just waiting for 6, will listen to some Queens of the Stone Age with the windows down and get this nice and long weekend started. Tuesday I get NHL 11 and get some early season simulation out of the way!
Everyone, do whatever makes you happy – if it feels right, do it twice. I will not tell anyone. Just please be safe and watch out for the idiots out on the roads this holiday weekend.

SomaAtl95

September 3rd, 2010
5:16 pm

OmniFan

September 3rd, 2010
5:36 pm

So with Kovy at the Rock for life, Lou Lam will need to dump 5 million in salary- open season on the Devils’ roster. Start the clock on the Deal Watch.

Hokie P. Clisters

September 3rd, 2010
5:41 pm

I was hoping to post before 5 o’clock but I’m stuck way down yonder on the Chattahoochie.

kracker

September 3rd, 2010
7:41 pm

It ain’t over till the Fat Devil Lady sings.

Deadline for Kovalchuk ruling now extended until 8 p.m. ET tonight.

Midfield

September 3rd, 2010
8:03 pm

Brendan, unfortunately, paraphrasing Seinfield character, Jay Grossman wins again. Because Jay is a winner. And Don is a loser. Jay will always be a winner. And Don will always be a loser.

kracker

September 3rd, 2010
9:06 pm

LOL…another deadline.

drosennhl Nothing official yet. Deadline now 10 p.m.

kracker

September 3rd, 2010
9:10 pm

Thanks, Brendan. That is a real nice house Comrie and Hiliary Duff have. I guess we know where their money will be going, or a good chunk of it.

Rawhide

September 3rd, 2010
9:36 pm

TSN and AP are reporting the deal is done. According to the story, the NHL approves the 15-year, $100 million contract which will create an annual $6.67 mil cap hit for te Devils. New Jersey is now about $3 mil over the cap with only 21 players under contract.

The Devils will need to clear at least $5 million from their payroll to get at least 23 players on the roster and get under the cap.

js

September 3rd, 2010
11:24 pm

Kovy signs and no one has anything to say? pardon the pun, but did hell freeze over?

kracker

September 3rd, 2010
11:29 pm

Kovy signed?? yawn….

Hokie P. Clisters

September 4th, 2010
12:10 am

Mr. Rawhides,

I’m confused…………now when the caps come to Atlanta to play will it be Washington or NJ? I wonder who NJ is going to turn loose or move to make this work?

Brendan

September 4th, 2010
12:29 am

Here’s the “new” agreement. http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=332542. Ummn, help me to understand what really has changed?? I’m honestly lost.

First: For long-term contracts extending beyond the age of 40, the contract’s average annual value for the years up to and including 40, are calculated by dividing total value in those years by the number of years up to and including 40. Then for the years covering ages 41 and beyond, the cap charge in each year is equal to the value of the contract in that year.

Woweeeee. That sure fixed the “fraud” that is cap circumvention, eh?? So, some RFA, like Tavares, gets a 20-year deal at age 21 or 22. Let’s just say at age 22. From age 22-40, it’s the same “legal” salary circumvention, as ALWAYS. What got FIXED? We waited ALLL SUMMER LONG to fix the “loophole” in the CBA, and this is the result?? So, Tavares gets a 20 year deal, for $121,050 million, let’s just say. Well, the first 18 of those 20 years are the VERY SAME dollar cost averaging non-sense that previously existed. So, the Islanders can “front load” that deal, as much as they want. Pay him $14 million for the first couple of years. They’d pay the VERY SAME cap hit the Devils are for Kovy, truly the mark of the Devil at $6.66 million. How do you figure? Well, if in the final two years, Tavares’ new contract is $525,000-a-year, (ages 41 and 42, years 19 and 20 of the contract) then the remaining $120 million gets divided by 18 years. Sound familiar? It’s the Hossa deal. It’s the Luongo deal. It’s, well, the Kovalchuk deal. We WASTED the whole summer to fix the loophole that existed, for this??? This fixed NOTHING!! Oooooh, it’s pretty scaaaary to have to pay the FULL-ON VALUE of $525,000, in the Year 2022, if you’re the NY Islanders, or whomever re-signs Tavares. What’s that in today’s dollars? A cup of coffee and a doughnut, with maybe a scone or two throw in? Woweeeee. What a DETERRENT. Fiscal Responsibility will surely follow from this decision. This will sure stop GM’s from making Briere-like contracts. Or Brian Campbell-like contracts. Or Hossa-like contracts. Oy gavult. In the immortal words of tennis great John McEnroe, “You CANNOT be serious.”

Okay, let’s see what Part II is. Maybe some common-sense can be found here, let’s hope. Secondly, for long-term contracts that include years in which the player is 36, 37, 38, 39 and 40; the amount used for purposes of calculating his average annual value is a minimum of $1 million in each of those years (even if his actual compensation is less during those seasons).

Ummn, okay. How does this stop the 15-year deals that are crippling the league? This just sets some MINIMUM cap hit for a player aged 36-40. So what? Was this ever a burning issue that needed to be corrected? They’re citing some example of a 32-year old who signs a 7-year deal, that expires when he turns 39. But the final two years of the deal, he was set to only make $525,000, contractually. Well, the NHL is saying, “Sorry, but those last two years have to count as $1 million, cap-wise, because the player was 36, 37, 38, or 39 years of age at the time he was set to make that money.” Well gee, we sure do want to discourage “league minimum” contracts for 36-40 year olds. What purpose does this rule serve? If some player is 32 and a GM wants to “Hossa/Kovalchuk him” with dollar cost averaging, with “fraud” at the end of the deal, to the tune of $525,000, it’s gonna have to hit their cap for $1 million in those years. How and why would the 1st rule not apply? Remember, anything under 40, as I understand it, would be “dollar cost averaged” anyway.

Let’s say some GM wanted to offer Todd White a brand new contract at the end of the season, when White is 36. And it’s a 4-year deal. And let’s say it’s $6 million for 4-years. It’s still going to be a $1.5 million cap hit. This rule would not apply to such a deal, as I understand it. But let’s the change the Todd White example, and say that some GM instead wants to offer the Milk Carton a six-year deal, paying him until he’s 42, for $4 million. That would normally be a cap hit of $666,667 dollars. What the NHL’s new agreement would do that deal is as follows. Despite paying White only $666,667, the cap hit would be $1 million, because White was 36, 37, 38, 39, and 40 during the time he was playing his new contract. But for years 41 and 42, the Team’s cap would pay him whatever the ACTUAL SALARY was for those years. Maybe that’s $666,667 dollars or maybe it’s substantively less than that. Maybe it’s only $200,000. But what’s the point of making this poor, unfortunate schlub of a GM have to suffer a $1 million cap hit for Todd White, anway? Is the answer really, “To discourage GM’s from offering Todd White a contract, knowing this will be the penalty for doing so?” Okay, I hear ya. It’s to prevent GM’s from doing less than $1.0 million in salary to players who have reached this age. Was this really the problem the NHL was facing? We had WAYYYY TOO MANY players being paid LESS than $1 million-a-year at age 36, 37, 38, 39, and 40??? I hardly think so. This provision makes no sense.

R. Stroz

September 4th, 2010
8:34 am

So Kovy, Grossman, and Lou and worked out a deal where Kovy’s cap hit is essentially 6.66 million.

That says it all doesn’t it. A 6.66 million cap hit to play for the Devils.

Joe Friday

September 4th, 2010
12:01 pm

Sweet Lou wins, again

World Be Free

September 4th, 2010
4:26 pm

Soma-you need the moped too.
Lou did win, as long as the league does not make him pay by taking away cap space, or fine him a couple mill. Lost alotta respect for Lou.

GT_Thrasherfan

September 4th, 2010
6:06 pm

Well well we have a Mike Hoffman sighting in the EIHL (England’s inaugural season). Fight #1 for the league, guess who’s making an appearance? http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/96535

js

September 4th, 2010
8:17 pm

Fredik Modin? Is there anything left? I hope so. It would be nice to have him teach the young guys what it takes to win the cup.

World Be Free

September 4th, 2010
8:31 pm

I like Freddie Modin, nice signing. This isn’t a top 6 forward, good depth signing.

The Stanley Cup

September 4th, 2010
10:16 pm

Freddie Modin? I’m yours, Atlanta.

Joe Friday

September 4th, 2010
11:00 pm

Morin? This years steve rucchin? Oy vay

Brendan

September 4th, 2010
11:39 pm

Joe Friday, indeed. This is the sickly smell of Waddell, still NOT FIRED.

Alan R.

September 5th, 2010
1:10 am

This is the sickly smell of Waddell

Modin won the cup in TB. Modin was also there during Dudley’s tenure there.

Think about it. No, really. Think.

Cornbread

September 5th, 2010
3:16 am

I don’t recall the fans being this resistant to bringing injury prone Afinogenov on board last year. Modin is a proven point producer, winner, and leader. If he can get to 20-20 as a second or third line wing he’s more than worth it. The team needs a veteran up front who was born in the ’70’s and will see some ice time.

The leadirship from the Captain along with Max, Kozlov, Hedberg, and Kubina are gone. This is filling a big hole.

Rhythmpenguin

September 5th, 2010
8:45 am

As far as veteran experience and leadership goes we have Mason, Bolts, Pevs, Antorpov, Slater, Thorburn, Hainsey, Oduya, and Sopel. Then there are Rissmiller, Siklenka, Myer, and Sifers who have a chance at making the team. All these guys are over 27, which I think is enough experience to qualify as veterans (at least to all of our younger guys).

Sara

September 5th, 2010
9:26 am

Brendan – actually that new contract rule would make a noticeable impact if it were retroactively applied. I’ll use Hossa’s contract as an example:

Actual cap hit = $5.23M for 12 years

Under new rules:

Cap hit through 2018-2019 season = $6.13M
Cap hit for 2019-2020/2020-2021 = $750,000

The Blackhawks would lose nearly a million a year in cap space for most of Hossa’s contract. And should Hossa conveniently retire at/after 40, there will be minimal cap relief.

Under the new rules now, Kovy’s average cap hit through the 2022-2023 season would be $8.27M, with cap hits of $1M, $1M, $3M, and $4M for the last four seasons respectively.

Bottomline, there isn’t going to be as much cap relief under the new rules if a team front-loads a large contract that runs a player beyond 40, nor will they see much cap relief if the player retires prior to the end of the contract unless they pad those last couple of seasons like the Devils did.

Sara

September 5th, 2010
9:40 am

A few more examples:

Zetterberg – current cap hit $6.083M; under new rules $6.55M
Franzen – $3.955M; $4.25M
Luongo – $5.333M; $6.71M
Pronger – $4.921M, $6.68M

R. Stroz

September 5th, 2010
9:42 am

With regards to the individuals (Kovy, Groossman, and Lou) and the team (Devils) involved in Kovy’s new contract, it’s just too ironic that the cap hit is 6.66 million.

Kovy, you now have the mark of the beast and the colors to prove it.

Red Light

September 5th, 2010
9:45 am

Modin 20 goals and 28 assists in his last 117 games after two seasons in which he scored 53 goals and added 43 assists in 156 games. His list of injuries included a bruised left foot, left knee, right knee, upper body, groin, head, flu, hamstring, back spasms and a back injury since the beginning of the 2007 season. Since his long playoff run in 2004 with Tampa, in which he scored 8 goals and 11 assists in 23 games for the Cup champions, he has appeared in just 10 playoff games since the lockout. Ice time ledger: 14:54 in 09-10, 16:52 in 08-09, 16:50 in 07-08 and 19:06 in 06-07.

Proven leader?

Flagstaff

September 5th, 2010
9:50 am

Well, I would have preferred Guerin. Even Satan. But still… IDWT.

Adam

September 5th, 2010
10:00 am

Cornbread – Max was 30 not 35 when he got here. He had played in an average of 53 games a year in the 3yrs prior to coming here, not 39. He also put up an average of 119 SOG in those 3 yrs, not 72. He also came here on a try out, not as a signed player, and was had for a song. Should I go on? How about Max wont be 32 till next September, Freddie will turn 36 the day we drop the puck against the Caps to start the season.

Unless this is a 1yr 2 way contract for peanuts it will be a waste and most definitely smells of Waddell.

Adam

September 5th, 2010
10:13 am

How is a guy that is 36 6′4″ 220 and hasn’t played but 1 full season in his 13yr career going to play the physical game we’re expecting to see? With the list of injuries Red Light points out he’ll get hurt in the preseason and won’t see ice time till December.

Red Light

September 5th, 2010
10:37 am

Brendan Morrison or Modin? Your call.

Red Light

September 5th, 2010
10:39 am

Morrison
Games 76
Goals 12
Assists 30
Points 42
Plus/Minus + 23

Rhythmpenguin

September 5th, 2010
11:15 am

Red Light, Over how many seasons?

Sage of Bluesland

September 5th, 2010
11:18 am

I don’t think it smells of that bumbling idiot, Waddell…I think it smells of “Duds” (appropriate nickname, too) signing “his” guys…guys he is ‘familiar’ with…

Great.

Maybe if he would be an assistant GM with about 28 other teams, we might have a guy who can assemble a team…His obsolescence is already beginning to show…

It reminds me of that quote from the movie “Wall Street”, where Gecko informed Fox that (words to the effect) “unless your dad is on the inside of more than one company, then we’re not going to be able to do business”…

Yep, we’ve now got a guy that will ‘raid’ the places he has worked–but that two-trick pony won’t last long. It will then come down to real decision-making….and this is where “Duds” will fail….The writing is on the wall, folks, for those who can see–and don’t need a self-serving spweadsheet to try and prove the indefensible…

(well, that, and a lack of ownership support–but that goes without saying…The ASG ’sincerely’ thanks you for your support; they really do!)

Rhythmpenguin

September 5th, 2010
11:23 am

There should be a different blog for people who will never say something positive…

R. Stroz

September 5th, 2010
11:48 am

Does anyone else find it ironic that Kovy re-signed before Bergfors?

SomaAtl95

September 5th, 2010
12:47 pm

Rhythmpenguin – Sheeple blogs are hard to find until the team proves otherwise. If, and its a big if, the Thrashers start out the season swinging and winning all of the negative vibes will clear up, except for sage. He will still be posting his “The End is near” and “YOU Sheeple are pathetic” posts until the Thrashers get to the cup finals.

World Be Free

September 5th, 2010
1:04 pm

Sage, thanks for a great post. Or should I say a waste of space. This team has yet to play a game and you have already written them off. You truly are worthless.

This is a depth signing for a guy that Dudley is familiar with who has won before. I would have preferred Guerin too, but maybe Billy has other ideas. Maybe we have not proven enough to available players, which I can understand. Writing the team, the GM and coachs off at this point is stupid.

Rhythmpenguin

September 5th, 2010
1:13 pm

I know Soma, just a thought. =)

Thank you WBF! =)

Rhythmpenguin

September 5th, 2010
1:13 pm

All in fun and hockey right? =)

SomaAtl95

September 5th, 2010
1:19 pm

All fun and games until someone loses an eye….Oh wait, we are in the Internet age now aren’t we…All fun and games till someones “non-typing” hand falls off…

Red Light

September 5th, 2010
1:25 pm

rhythmpenguin…

Those were his stats last year in Washington. I think we have enough size and would like to add someone who can actually make a pass. I guess I’m just hung up on adding a playmaker, and have been since mid-July.

Brendan

September 5th, 2010
1:25 pm

Sara, thank you for that salary cap adjustment post. I enjoyed it. Very well thought out and researched. I sort of wish that the new rules could be applied to those contracts, but I defer to my earlier stance that, “Well, NHL, you HAD the chance to negative those contracts. You sat there, twiddling your thumbs, and APPROVED them. So, it’s too late to undo them.” Sara, I still say that the NHL didn’t go ‘far enough’ in terms of the circumvention angle of the cap. I’m all in favor of just nixing cost averaging, and instead, the player’s salary is what it is, and counts for what it is against the team’s cap.

Brendan

September 5th, 2010
1:27 pm

Red Light, Brendan Morrison.

Red Light

September 5th, 2010
1:27 pm

And, I certainly prefer getting a guy for two seasons to blend with these kids, rather than a bunch of one-year and lets re-negotiate yet again types. The revolving door is still a potential problem in my opinion. I believe in familiarity as one of the keys to success.

Red Light

September 5th, 2010
1:29 pm

Brendan, like I said a few weeks back, charge them the actual salary in the year in which it takes place and you’d have no such circumvention.

kracker

September 5th, 2010
1:50 pm

Red Light, thanks for answering my question (on the other blog) about Modin’s recent injury history.

….Last season he appeared in 24 games for the CBJ and 20 for the Kings, scoring 11 points (5+6). He was moved to LA at the trade deadline. The previous two seasons with CBJ Modin scored 37 points (15+22) in only 73 games. The last full season for Modin was the 06-07, his first in Columbus, where he played in 79 games and scored 20+22 for 42 points.

So…one has to hope Modin is now injury free and has some game left. I suppose Dudley is looking for a Mark Recchi type of rebound from Modin. The fact that Duds knows the player first-hand adds credence to this signing.

Brendan

September 5th, 2010
1:58 pm

Well, maybe “thinking” isn’t my forte, per Alan R. But here are my thoughts. During the offseason, we all given homework by Rawhide to make out our wish list for 2010-11. Did even one of us list Fredrik Modin? We’ll have to go back and review. In any event, he’s been signed. Terms, I’ve yet to locate. If anyone’s got them, please share them.

Okay, here are my “first thoughts” upon reading the news of Modin’s signing. This is the post lockout NHL, where youth and speed are at a premium. Second, a player, ANY PLAYER, past the age of 35 starts to slow down, and becomes highly susceptible to injury. Segue, Fredrik Modin turns 36 in October. Modin missed most of the 2007 season with a shoulder injury, and hasn’t played more than 50 games a season since 2007. He’s 6′4″/218 pounts, or thereabouts. Will he be “fast enough,” or will he be taking hooking penalties? And what’s his ice time situation? 14-16 minutes a game? Is this how we replace the goal production lost by Afinogenov and Kovalchuk?

Now, I’m about to be falsely accused of being negative. As if it were “negative” to merely “disagree?” I think it’s a lovely day outside. Someone else might say, “it’s still a bit hot, though,” and I don’t fly off the handle thinking they are all negative, when they simply have a difference of opinion.

Here are the POSITIVE things I have to say about Freddy Modin. He’s a little bit better than a point every other game, for .526. That’s good. He’s a +3 in his career. That’s encouraging. He has scored 225 goals in the NHL. That’s pretty allright. Eight times, Modin has scored 15 or more goals in a season, in his career. He’s scored 20 or more goals five times (5x) in his career. And he’s tallied 30 or more twice (2x).

But, speaking truthfully, it’s not as if this player was highly coveted. His signing comes in SEPTEMBER of the offseason. (Yeah, I hear ya. “So was Kovalchuk’s!!”) Now, I do tend to like Swedes. I don’t think Modin will be any kind of cancer in the lockeroom. I think it’s wonderful that Rick Dudley has a nostalgic allegiance to some of his former players. I further think it’s wonderful that Modin is a Stanley Cup winner. If this signing had come IMMEDIATELY out of the lockout, I think I’d view it far more eagerly, and enthusiastically. But, being honest as I always am, “that was SEVEN YEARS AGO.” The ink’s not fresh on that Stanley Cup cap and T-shirt. If we exclusively used this criteria (prior Cup winner) for signing players off the 2004 Tampa Bay Lightning, we better get cracking on Andre Roy, Ruslan Fedotenko (scored both goals in the Cup-clinching Game 7,) Cory Sarich, Jassen Cullimore, Chris Dingman, Brad Lukowich, Tim Taylor and Eric Perrin. Oh wait, we already had Perrin. (Is he still skating with the team at the Ice Forum?) And Kubina, whom we should have kept. Where’s Ben Clymer these days?

Brendan

September 5th, 2010
2:00 pm

Red Light, I whole heartedly endorse your salary cap suggestions. That would rid the problem of circumvention. We wouldn’t have to ask questions like, “What’s his salary?,” followed by, “What’s his cap hit?”

Brendan

September 5th, 2010
2:05 pm

Sage, are you being “entertaining” or do you honestly believe that Rick Dudley is something of a dunderhead, who can’t do anything beyond raiding his former teams? Truthfully, Dudley wasn’t my 1st choice as a replacement to Waddell. But I do think he’s a bit more capable than you’re suggesting. Though, I reserve the right to say, “Time will tell if you are proven correct, Sage.” And I’ll give you that credit, if Dudley goes out and acquires Jassen Cullimore.

World Be Free

September 5th, 2010
2:29 pm

Modin adds depth and nobody has ever questioned his heart or desire, he has had some injuries. Morrison’s a center, so he may have added more overall value. Neither guy would be an impact player.

One more note-congratulations to the Jacksonville State Gamecocks! I dont know if the Marching Southerners made the trip, I hope so; great college marching band.

Red Light

September 5th, 2010
2:58 pm

I think you have to ask…what’s his upside. In my view, a 36-year-old has upside if he can rebound for one or two seasons back to his prior career-high numbers. In order for Modin to do so, you’re asking for a big leap of faith. That’s why the Comrie signing in Pittsburgh makes more sense than this one. If he rebounds based upon playing with much better players, could he put up the 30-30 60 point year he had in 2006? That’s a big leap of faith, but for $500k is it worth the try? Darn right and he’s only 30 years old. For Modin, can he duplicate his 2004 season when he tabbed 29-28-57 and was +31? That’s a bigger leap of faith because it happened two years earlier than Comrie’s career year and he’ll be 36.

For Morrison, the curve is even shorter, because he put up 42 points last year and played 74 games. Plus, last year he was only 29 points short of his career high, far better marks than either Comrie or Modin. So, while I don’t mind adding Modin, he would have been my third choice of the three mentioned. That’s all I’m saying. I’ll defer to Dudley’s affinity for signing players he knows, the very reason I thought he would have signed Olli Jokinen back on July 1.

Rawhide

September 5th, 2010
3:20 pm

So, could signing Modin be a sort of insurance policy for the Thrashers?

SomaAtl95

September 5th, 2010
3:37 pm

I see it like this – The team is going to do what they want to do in any way that they see fit. While we can show our surprise/unhappiness at the changes that have been made their overall M.O. is to put butts in the seats. STH’s and rabid fans (like all of us, including sage) are only one part of the equation. If they can manage a team with the fairy tale vibes of the 91 Braves or 98 Falcons they will get more butts in seats, which is the ASG’s overall goal. The Thrashers and Hawks want (or should want) to win their respective Championships, the ASG just wants the revenues and benefits that come from building excitement. In the law of averages, give anything enough time and its number will be drawn – Both Falcons and Braves came to Atlanta in the 60’s, had a brief tast of playoffs in the 90’s but waited till the 90’s to do anything significant. The Flames were contenders in Atlanta and won the cup within a few years of being shipped out of town. The fact of the matter is that there will be no ownership group interested in keeping Hockey in Atlanta until there is a fan presence. Anyone that disagrees should look at the fate of the Yotes. Last year they were about to be “Tom Cousins’ed” out of town, they got new ownership (the NHL) new management and a purpose. They won. They put butts in the seats, and now they have a buyer interested in keeping them in Glendale.
I will have blind faith in the Thrashers (and I don’t usually have blind faith in Anything) regardless of if they are contenders for the cup or contenders for the toilet. Give any team enough time in Atlanta and our city will catch on. In the meantime the teams need their “Sheeple” to keep the same grazing area.
I know some will disagree and some will want to argue my point, but I will be damned if Canada steals another one of our teams. At least we know that our team made the most moves and some of the biggest waves in this off season, and while some signings have not been preferred, at least they are doing something (and they jettisoned a lot of dead weight players who were obviously unhappy to be here).
Modin will bring experience and may be able to provide leadership for our younger players, which was sorely missing from the Kovalchuk years.
This has been an offseason like no other for our Thrashers. That means something, right?

SomaAtl95

September 5th, 2010
3:38 pm

Both Falcons and Braves came to Atlanta in the 60’s, had a brief taste of playoffs in the 80’s but waited till the 90’s to do anything significant. My bad for not proofreading…

kracker

September 5th, 2010
5:26 pm

baaaaaaa baaaaaa….still grazing contentedly

Sage of Bluesland

September 5th, 2010
6:13 pm

Wow…where to even start with what I just read–or thought I read (alternating between head-scratches and guffaws)…OK, I’ll start:

“…In the law of averages, give anything enough time and its number will be drawn…”

If it were only so easy as titles and sustained excellence being a ‘random’ occurrence, destined for each and every player! I wish the world truly worked like this–I really do. It doesn’t.

“…The Thrashers and Hawks want (or should want) to win their respective Championships,…”

No, they don’t. I’ve cared less and less about the Hawks since the mid-80s–and they had a serious buffoon of a GM for far too long (Pete Babcock)…but the Thrashers don’t have any intention of winning a championship. Exhibit A: Keeping Don Waddell employed.

That should have ended the dissertation right there.

(But far be it from me to interrupt a good dream…I used to ‘dream’ such thoughts too….but that pesky reality keeps biting…and the insults to the intelligence keep on coming…)

Tom Lysiak

September 5th, 2010
11:26 pm

Sage, since you seem to know so much about the future, would you tip me off to the upcoming lottery numbers before they draw them? You know, in time for me to buy a winning ticket? I could use the extra funds to “subsidize the incompetence”.