Throughout the month of August Sean Leahy of Yahoo Sports’ Puck Daddy has invited bloggers, fans and writers of each NHL team to select four people that best define the face of their franchise and helped shaped its history. Those players, coaches and/or team executives would then have their images sculpted into and enshrined upon that team’s “Mt. Puckmore”.
Earlier in the week, Aaron Brown and Laura Astorian of Bird Watchers Anonymous guided us on a tour of Thrasherville’s Mt. Puckmore State Park. There they unveiled the images that they carved upon our mountain monument. Three players…Ilya Kovalchuk, Dan Snyder and Dany Heatley…were included as well as former GM and now team president Don Waddell.
The Kovy and Snyder selections are two that I would also have made. However, I would have chosen two others instead of Heatley and Waddell…Slava Kozlov and radio voice of the Thrashers Dan Kamal.
Kozlov played in 537 games as a Thrasher scoring 145 goals and 271 assists. He’s nothing short of a class act and a professional through & through. So he’d be my third selection. The Grand Kamalian has delivered Thrashers action over the airwaves since day one and his love, passion and dedication to this team and his profession has come through as crystal clear as his play-by-play calls.
Other consideration would have to be given to Ray “Big Ball of Hate” Ferraro and “The Sheriff”, Jeff Odgers.
Regardless of whom you might have picked to place upon this Thrasherville summit of historic figures, it certainly makes for quality discussion and debate. So, hats off to Mr. Brown and Ms. Astorian for performing the role of tour guides at Thrasherville’s Mt. Puckmore State Park so well.
But now, let me lead you around to the backside of the park…past the finely manicured lawns and well-stocked gift shops…beyond the maintenance sheds and garbage dumpsters that are tucked neatly away from the view of tourists. There, in a remote corner of the park, we find another mountain… albeit one not quite as tall, majestic and picturesque as Mt. Puckmore. It is much less of a “mountain majesty” as it is a “bump on the backside” of Thrasherville State Park.
That’s right kids… this weekend we take a class trip to Mt. Flushmore.
So everyone put on your hiking boots, grab hold of the line rope, watch your step and be mindful of the other park patrons. Oh, and if you’ve brought a packed lunch, don’t put it down for a second. There are a couple crafty bears that will snatch it up in a flash.
Now the first thing you’ll all notice is, in stark contrast to the majestic mountain in front of the park, this slope is only meant for those who we remember in… shall we say… a less-fond manner. Whereas Mt. Puckmore is reserved for those we feel best represent the faces of the franchise, this particular peak is set aside for those who we might wish had never shown their face here at all. It is indeed a special place in Thrasherville infamy.
And so, as we arrive at the base of the mountain, allow me to display the four images that I have chosen to blast out of the stone facing of Mt. Flushmore.
Alex Bourret: The first round draft pick by Don Waddell in the now infamous “Trade-Down Draft of ‘05”, Bourret represents what I believe is the worst ever first round pick the Thrashers have made…yes, that includes Patrik Stefan. Waddell traded away the 8th overall, then 12th overall pick to take him at 16th, passing over such players as Anze Kopitar and Marc Staal. That Bourret never played a single game at the NHL level just adds to the frustration when recalling that 2005 draft.
He was ultimately dealt to the New York Rangers in exchange for Pascal Dupuis who, in turn, made his way to Pittsburgh with Marian Hossa in 2008. Dupuis has his name engraved on the Stanley Cup with the rest of the 2008-09 Penguins.
Bourret played three seasons in the AHL where he scored 25 goals and 60 assists in 156 games. Last year he played in the Czech Republic for HC Kometa Brno where he netted but one assist in 16 games and in June he signed a one-year contract with High1 of Asia League Ice Hockey.
Upon hearing news of the Bourret signing, High1 fans in Chuncheon, South Korea logged on to the team’s fan blog site to exclaim…“The cup is ours”.
Alexei Zhitnik: If Bourret represents draft pick lows, then Zhitnik’s face surely is the one that can best represent ill-advised trade acquisitions. When the Thrashers found themselves in danger of sliding out of the playoff picture in February 2007, Don Waddell hit the panic button. Sent to Philadelphia was promising defensive prospect Braydon Coburn in exchange for veteran defenseman Alexei Zhitnik.
While Zhitty did play well for Atlanta down the stretch, the next year he personified everything that was wrong with that season’s defensive play. In the summer of ’08, shortly after opining how Zhitnik would play a big part in Atlanta’s future, Waddell bought out his contract. Zhitnik then spent two seasons being paid $1.16 million a year to not play for the Thrashers.
Coburn, on the other hand, has been getting paid to play for Philadelphia, both in regular season games and the playoffs. During a 2008 playoff game between the Flyers and Capitals, I recall hearing the TV play-by-play saying something like, “…and Coburn wins the puck in the corner. Ya know, I still can’t believe Philly got him from Atlanta for, who was it, Alexei Zhitnik?”
There were audible snickers, a chuckle…then they continued with the game.
Todd White: I would place the likeness of Todd White on the face of Mt. Flushmore to represent offseason UFA signings gone bad. White came to Atlanta in the summer of 2007 and Don Waddell sold him to Thrasherville as the new top-line center…the man to center Ilya Kovalchuk’s line. Now, in fairness to Todd, he’s not the one that placed that albatross of a label around his neck. He’s a second or third liner at best…not that there’s anything wrong with that. But White’s soft play on both ends of the ice soon earned him the nickname “Charmin” and he also found his image on my milk carton due to his propensity to disappear for games at a time.
A few weeks ago, White was dealt to the New York Rangers…the same team that took Bourret off of our hands. The Thrashers got in return a player that has suited up for 2 NHL games in the past two seasons and another that they immediately put on waivers.
Well done, Mr. Dudley.
Don Waddell: OK, so what name has constantly popped-up when discussing the first three faces for Mt. Flushmore? Uh-huh, Don Waddell… the man who held the title of Thrashers general manager from day one to just last April. Waddell has been the one consistent with this team and, for better or worse, is the main reason they are where they are now. Nice guy…yes he is. Sincerely wants this team to succeed…yes he does. Better at running the business of the organization than on-ice talent evaluator…very possibly so.
Now, there are many who would say Mr. Waddell does truly belong here…that really the Great Octocluster that make up the AS, LLC are far more deserving of this honor. That may be so, but try getting all eight of those guys up there. It’d be a logistics nightmare.
Don not only has held the title of GM, executive VP and now team president, but he has also been the head coach of the Thrashers. Twice he has had to take over behind the bench after having to fire two coaches that he himself hired. His overall record there is 38-39-1-8. So not only has he GM-ed the team to a losing record, he has also coached them to one as well.
Hopefully, his tenure as team president will be more successful than his previous position. I feel his first decision in that role…announcing the promotion of Rick Dudley to GM…was a very good one. And if the team plays as well as many think they can given the roster moves he’s orchestrated so far, maybe we can get the sandblaster out and change some of the faces on the mountain.
The mountain in front of the park, I mean… Mt. Puckmore. Lord help us if others perform so poorly that they become worthy of replacing any one of these guys.
shudders
And now if you’ll follow me, let me guide you to the gift shop. Sorry…there are no vuvuzelas for sale, but I hear Kovalchuk #17 Thrashers jerseys are 95% off and anyone purchasing a Todd White #12 jersey will get a free carton of milk…
143 comments Add your comment
Sharon
August 21st, 2010
3:27 pm
Sage, don’t get me started on Daren Eliot. I simply can’t stand that story spinnin’ s.o.b.
I’d rather get a gyno exam with a rusty hatchet than listen to his nonsense.
Sharon
August 21st, 2010
3:27 pm
Note to self… calm down… it’s just a game, it’s just a game, it’s just a game…
Rhythmpenguin
August 21st, 2010
3:28 pm
Darren Eliot has been great! I love listening to him broadcast the Thrashers games! I have never heard anyone speak badly of him before. Does he really deserve criticism? I don’t think so. What does everyone else think?
DWTOO
August 21st, 2010
4:15 pm
Eliot is good on Versus. On SportsSouth he’s too much of a “homer” for most tastes. His BS quotient is quite high.
Rhythmpenguin
August 21st, 2010
4:19 pm
Are there any (in)famous examples?
World Be Free
August 21st, 2010
4:42 pm
No like for Scott Walker on the Thrashers?
Thrashers27
August 21st, 2010
4:57 pm
I’m bored, so…at this point I see things shaking out like this for the ‘10-’11 season. I feel optimistic about such a lineup.
LW C RW
Bergfors Antro Buff
Kane Burmistrov Little
Ladd Cormier Pever
Eager Slater Machacek
Boults and Thorbs ride the pine
D
Bogosian Enstrom
Hainsey Oduya
Sopel Boris
Kulda
Brendan
August 21st, 2010
5:03 pm
I like Darren Eliot’s work on Versus. We get “honesty” there. And genuine insight from Darren. And not comments like, “Ondrej’s got ‘it.’” His “it” factor commentary upset a few people. And Pavelec didn’t exactly have a breakout season. Loved the Ottawa game, and the other game where he had over 40 saves. We don’t hear things like, “You’ve got to think you’re ‘real close’ now to being a playoff team,” circa November 2008. Darren Eliot said, “Nathan Oystrick has been a revelation.” Then Waddell agreed. A year later, the guy was sent packing.
Rawhide
August 21st, 2010
5:24 pm
Thrashers27 – Like the lines….I’ll take the D as is, but up front I would move Peverley between Kane and Little, slide Machacek to 3rd RW, switch Cormier and Slates…Rissmiller joins Boltz in PB.
Thrashers27
August 21st, 2010
5:42 pm
I’d be happy with that scenario as well, Rawhide.
So, you think Burmistrov spends another year in Barrie?
jen
August 21st, 2010
5:53 pm
Mike Dunham would be the one I would hang up there to symbolize the goalie woes.What a lack of heart.
Rawhide
August 21st, 2010
5:59 pm
Thrashers27 – Until training camp opens up and he proves otherwise, yes I do.
But that’s the beauty of it, ya know. The kid will have every chance to work his way onto the roster. If he does…great. If not, then another year with the Colts will be OK.
What I think will clearly be the case, however, is if he does make the Thrashers lineup it will be to play. Sitting in the PB does him no good. Same w/ Spencer. Someone like Rissmiller or Boulton or even Stewart, well they don’t really need anymore “seasoning” down on the farm. They could be 13th and 14th forwards getting spot starts.
Mikey
August 21st, 2010
6:56 pm
With Zubarev signing, that crowds things up at the blueline doesn’t it? I’m sure he’ll be in Chicago but there are now a lot of promising young Dmen what with him, Kulda, Postma ect.
Rawhide
August 21st, 2010
6:57 pm
Jen – Mike Dunham…sigh…
April 17, 2006. It was a Monday night, second to last game of the season. The Thrashers had overcome a slow start to the season that was caused primarily to Kari-Down ’05 coming upon us in the first game of the season…that and then other goalie injuries. We had, what, eight different goalies that year?
Anywhooo…they came into that game 9th in the Eastern Conference…three points behind 8th place Tampa Bay and 4 behind 7th place Montreal.
The Thrashers were playing the next-to-last-place in the east Capitals in D.C. and had their first playoff birth within their grasp. Atlanta was staked to an early 1-0 lead thanks to Bobby Holik’s goal just 11 second into the game. Then, Dunham allowed a pair of goals just 23 seconds apart…Bob Hartley pulled him after that. Dunham had saved but 3 of the 5 shots he faced. The dejected goalie sat at the end of the bench, sulking with a ball cap pulled low over his eyes.
Michael Garnett took over…allowing one goal on 5 shots. But during the first intermission he let Hartley know he could not return due to pulled groin. The score was 3-2 Washington, Steve McCarthy’s slapper proving Atlanta’s second goal.
Dunham return to play in the second period and didn’t allow a goal. Maybe the fact that Washington only took 5 shots on goal helped in that success.
But Garnet Exelby and Peter Bondra both introduced puck to twine and the Thrashers led 4-3 after two periods of play. All we needed was 20 minutes of solid play from the man between the pipes.
We would not get it.
The Caps scored 3 times on 13 shots and the Thrashers fell 6-4. Dunham’s line…5 goals on 23 shots, 4 were even strength and 1 came on the power play. Atlanta outshot Washington 42-28 that night.
The Thrashers went on to lose 2-1 in overtime down in Florida the next night, but it was academic. The loss in Washington eliminated them. Had they picked up those two points in D.C. and the next night, when it meant something, the Thrashers would have finished with 93 points. They would have pushed the Lightning out of the playoffs and actually been the 7th seed over Montreal. Even though the Habs had 93 points as well, Atlanta would have had 43 wins to the Canadiens 42.
Washington finished with just 70 points that year.
Atlanta would have then taken on Carolina…who wound up winning the Stanley Cup that spring. Atlanta went 3-4-1 against the Canes that year.
However, even if they fell to Carolina in the opening round of the 2006 playoffs, maybe…just maybe…Don Waddell would not have felt the heat the next year and pushed the panic button trading Coburn for Zhitnik.
Maybe.
But yeah, Jen…Mike Dunham…sigh
Thrashers27
August 21st, 2010
7:14 pm
Oh, I remember the pain and disgust of that game, Bill. What’s worse is that most of the goals Dunham allowed were ridiculously soft. I felt sick afterward and couldn’t even bring myself to watch the Florida game the next night.
Hokie P. Clisters
August 21st, 2010
9:30 pm
I recommend Bourret, Zhitnik, and 2 faces (left and right) of DW on Mount Flushmore. Stendek and Sage could be super imposed as two erupting volcanoes in the background.
Curly
August 21st, 2010
10:17 pm
1) The Goalie “Who shall not be named” (DR)
2) Byron Dafoe
3) Dany Heatley
4) Steve Rucchin
Brendan
August 21st, 2010
11:29 pm
Re: goaltending from the 2005-06 campaign, people quickly forget that Kari Lehtonen and Michael Garnett had the EXACT SAME winning percentage, at .571. It’s the kind of thing that makes people say, “Huh?” But, assuredly, they were identical in their points percentages. Dunham’s save percentage, .893 was BETTER than Garnett’s .885. Garnett had 3.45 GAA. Dunham had a team best 2.77 GAA. Kari’s GAA was 2.94, but Lehtonen’s save percentage was a team best .906.
Rawhide, had the Thrashers made the playoffs in 2006, in 7th position, maybe the organization places more importance on paying Marc Savard what the market would bear ($5 million), realizing that the playoffs WITHOUT him the following season would be more difficult to obtain. Bygones. Perhaps, Savard wasn’t going to stay, no matter what.
That 2005-06 season was one of the more frustrating ones in team history, as expectation levels were raised so very high from Opening Night forward. And so many things went haywire. Groin injury after groin injury. Shields proved to be no solution. By the time Garnett started playing really well, too much of the season had passed. Kari played well in his return. What a different time it was in the franchise history. The owners greenlighted a maxed cap for Opening Night. The “intentions” were all good. Aside from the age of the team, the roster should have been good enough for a playoff berth. From my perspective, a healthy Kari Lehtonen all year or even a healthy Pasi Nurminen would have put us in the playoffs in 2006.
Hockey Biltong
August 21st, 2010
11:31 pm
oh the humanity…
World Be Free
August 22nd, 2010
8:37 am
Not sure Zhitnik deserves to be in the hill-the Thrashers chose him, he didn’t choose us. Most people in hockey (especially Sabres’ fans) knew he was a bum when he signed with the Islanders, long before he came to the Thrashers. He wasn’t a UFA like Todd Blight.
Eliot’s approach on Thrashers’ games is no different than the vast majority of color commentators in the NHL. He’s a homer like most of them-watch Hockey Night in Canada or NESN if you want to hear homers that are so bad they make you sick. Do you really think the team and the sponsors wanna hear their hired help say “this team stinks, turn off your sets”?
I think Joe Micholetti is more critical that other colors guys, but he’s good he gets away with it. When Red Barber worked for the Yankees, he actually critized the team on air-they fired him.
World Be Free
August 22nd, 2010
8:52 am
How much could Scott Walker or Bill Guerin help this team?
Rhythmpenguin
August 22nd, 2010
9:23 am
Would Be Free, that makes a lot of sense.
Sage of Bluesland
August 22nd, 2010
9:54 am
“…Do you really think the team and the sponsors wanna hear their hired help say “this team stinks, turn off your sets”?”
No–but at the sake of the continuous insult to my intelligence, STOP blowing Sara- and Gava-shine up my rearside.
So offensive–just like the spreadsheets and the arguments on what a “real” fan is…Insultingly offensive…
Rawhide
August 22nd, 2010
10:11 am
Not sure Zhitnik deserves to be in the hill-the Thrashers chose him, he didn’t choose us. Most people in hockey (especially Sabres’ fans) knew he was a bum when he signed with the Islanders, long before he came to the Thrashers. He wasn’t a UFA like Todd Blight.
WBF – Point taken. However, my intent was to pick one person that personified bad trades, (Zhitnik)…one that personified bad UFA signings, (White)…one that personified bad draft picks, (Bourret)… and another that personified the bad decisions making that led to them all, (Waddell).
World Be Free
August 22nd, 2010
10:33 am
Rawhide-OK, makes perfect sense. Also, Best of Blues Brothers is on sale at Barnes and Noble for $6.99, you can have the “Blues” on the road.
Eliot insulting? It is what it is Sage, if you don’t like the commentary turn off the sound on your set. It’s the nature of the industry these days, just watch just about anybody at ESPN, NBC, ABC or Fox. Paul Maguire is about the only guy left in the industry that will call any player out for playing poorly and he’s almost never on anymore.
kracker
August 22nd, 2010
10:36 am
I certainly agree on Eliot. He works for Sportsouth, his job is to talk up the Thrashers and present them as an appealing team that hockey and sports fans will enjoy watching. He generally does a credible job with that task, giving insight and background color as the game progresses.
Rawhide
August 22nd, 2010
10:43 am
Also, Best of Blues Brothers is on sale at Barnes and Noble for $6.99, you can have the “Blues” on the road.
WBF – Thanks. The soundtrack to the movie has been a fixture in every car I’ve owned since 1985…either in cassett tape or CD form.
R. Stroz
August 22nd, 2010
11:30 am
Due to the need for more mountains to place dishonorable faces upon, I’d like to suggest Stone Mountain candidates be added to the list. For the purposes of this blog, we could call them candidates for STONED Mountain.
Heatley would be my first pick.
Mikey
August 22nd, 2010
11:57 am
WBF, speaking of The Blues Brothers, with the Chicago connection The Thrashers have maybe the team should drop “The Hockey Way” as their theme and go with “We’re on a mission from God’.
World Be Free
August 22nd, 2010
11:59 am
Rawhide-footnote on BB, one of my college roomates was convinced 8 tracks would last forever, so he bought the “Blues Brothers” original in the 8 track version. I haven’t talked to him in 25 years, hope he is still satisfied with the quality of his 300+ 8 tracks.
The worst homers of all time? Fred Cusick with the Broones and Bill Chadwick (The Big Whistle) on the old Rangers’ broadcasts were two of the biggest homers. Both guys died last year, having lived to their 90’s. Bruin and Ranger fans never seemed to mind their homer styles.
kracker
August 22nd, 2010
2:06 pm
WBW – Eight-track tapes didn’t last forever in my home but they lived on for a couple of extra decades at least. In my younger days shelving was constructed of random boards, cinder blocks, bricks, rtc. Eight-track tapes made excellent leveling spacers for the aquarium base, the home made bookshelves, rickety furniture and lots more stuff. Sort of like duct tape is good for everything.
Hokie P. Clisters
August 22nd, 2010
2:28 pm
Mr. Rawhides, I thoroughly enjoyed your picture of Boo-Boo and Huckleberry Hound but where is Snaggle-Puss? You need Snaggle-Puss saying “Exit – Stage Left” to really get the full effect.
Brendan
August 22nd, 2010
3:17 pm
Time for a new blog???
MB
August 22nd, 2010
3:20 pm
Reportedly the league is considering excluding points from shootout wins as an element of the regular season’s first tiebreaker, giving more weight to points won in “team play” through regulation and overtime victories.
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/34825-Report-National-Hockey-League-to-change-regularseason-tiebreaker-rule.html
Rawhide
August 22nd, 2010
3:30 pm
Brendan – No…not today. Busy working on a new feature (interview) piece.
MB – That’s interesting…thanks.
Oh, and I’m hearing buzz that Little has ben signed, (though I’ve not heard it from a source inside or near the organization). But given the fact that C-Viv did post Friday that a deal was near for he and Zubarev…and that Zubarev’s has indeed been announced…I’m sure we are not too far away from getting official confirm of Little’s new deal.
That is all…
World Be Free
August 22nd, 2010
6:00 pm
Rawhide-hope it is a multi year deal for Little and Bergfors One soon.
kracker-duct tape has multiple uses in my house.
Rhythmpenguin
August 22nd, 2010
7:59 pm
According to a study, duct tape “failed reliably and often quite catastrophically” when used to seal ducts.
http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/duct-tape-HVAC.html
Brendan
August 22nd, 2010
9:00 pm
Has anyone else watched Montreal vs. Pittsburgh Games Six and Seven, where the Canadiens close out the Penguins, on the NHL Network today? Amazing work by the Habs. Truly. Segue, so I still can’t believe … they let Halak go. Granted, they got something back for him, but still. When you’re in the playoffs … you need goaltending. You cannot win without it. And Halak stood on his head in the Capitals and Penguins series. He didn’t exactly lay an egg in the CF, either, versus Philadelphia. So, Montreal lets him get away … because he had arbitration rights??? Pay him! Trade Carey Price. Get “something” for him. I do wonder if Montreal has sights on Niemi. Jose Theodore was once a Canadien … wonder if they’d ever take him back?
Brendan
August 22nd, 2010
9:14 pm
MB, I’m not in favor of that idea. Now we’re supposed to differentiate between “types” of wins? As in, Team A wins 45 games, 3 in the shootout, and Team B wins 45 games, with 10 in the shootout, so Team A wins the tie-breaker because it won FEWER games via that method? If the win counts for two-points, then it’s got “equal weight” with the regulation-time win. To then suddenly decide, “Well, ya know .. some of those wins were LESSER-type wins” … just seems weak to me. I honestly can’t understand why the league cannot go with W-L, .pct, games up, games back. The purpose of every game is to win. If you don’t win, there’s always another game. And economically disadvantaged teams “seem” to fare just as well as “rich” teams when it comes to the shootout. So, I can’t say that “retaining the shootout favors the big market, wealthy teams while hurting the small fish in the pond.” I don’t care if the # 8 seed gets into the playoffs with a 35-47 record. I just see that as 35-35-12, which would be 82-points, .500, by today’s standards. Honestly now, what could be simpler than, “We need to win our next two games while our next closest rivals must lose them both, to make the playoffs” as a hypothetical stretch-run scenario? Instead, “Well, ya see … if those same rivals lose in overtime or the shootout, then they clinch, or potentially clinch, even if we win, no matter how we win.”
What’s better?? What’s clearer?? When games are won and lost, the only “math” skills necessary are determining games up and games back, and the standings do that for you.
Hockey Biltong
August 22nd, 2010
10:57 pm
Darren Eliot is a quality human being. One of the nicest you could ever hope to meet. He is for the home team, which there aren’t many, and his playoff game calling was of a high calibre. Just be happy we don’t have Jon Sterling around or Billy Jaffe…..
World Be Free
August 23rd, 2010
5:55 am
Biltong, I hear Darren is a great dude and he does his job in a manner that is consistent with others in his craft. Expecting these guys to be highly critical of the Thrashers is very difficult. Guys like Eliot are sometimes accused of “insulting our intelligence” when they don’t critisize the team when they are playing bad. If you know the game and the team is playing bad, you should not need an announcer to tell you that.
Brendan,-the only reason I can think of as to why the Habs kept Price over Halak is that Price is a Canadian. Halak clearly outplayed Price when it counted, in the playoffs. If Price really wanted to be number one in Montreal he would have signed by now. The Habs/Price negotiation is clearly a difficult courtship dance. They would have to find a suitor for Price before they could bring on Niemi, they just do not have the cap room. Sounds like Price wants a short term deal to get to free agency. Let’s hope the Canadians keep shooting themselves in their feet.
Pens/Habs series was probably the best series of the entire playoffs, still say we should have picked up Dom Moore since he has been avaialabile several times for past 17 mos. I have been advocating for getting Dom since the start of last season’s UFA period.
GaVaHokie
August 23rd, 2010
8:16 am
Seriously Rawhide, the White hatred is a bit much… at least he gave us a 73 pt season… much more than my 4 candidates ever supplied.
Rhodes, Stefan, Bourret, Zhitnik.
GaVaHokie
August 23rd, 2010
8:31 am
If memory serves me correctly, if Waddell had gotten what he wanted, Todd White would have actually been Michael Nylander who ended up costing Washington twice as much with worse numbers, plus injuries.
Todd White was part of a long chain of thinking (post Savard)that “you could put anyone in between Kovy and Hossa and they could put up 40 assists a season”… White actually outperformed all the others in this chain including Rucchin, Kapanen and Holik.
World Be Free
August 23rd, 2010
8:40 am
GaVA, all good points on White as usual. I think in th end, Todd White became the postchild, the whipping boy for all things wrong with the Thrashers. We kind of took out our frustrations on guys like White. He did little to defend himself with his play, going “o-for” a good portion of last season. Every team has overpaid, wasted roster users on their respective teams. If Todd White was making Jim Slater money, we might have been a little more tolerent.
kracker
August 23rd, 2010
8:41 am
That just goes to show that if Todd White is surrounded by great scorers, he will produce!! Making him something of a reverse center: he receives rather than dishing out points.
I do hear that he is one of the nicest fellows you will ever meet, probably the nicest to ever grace Rawhide’s milk carton.
GaVaHokie
August 23rd, 2010
9:09 am
If Todd White was making Jim Slater money, we might have been a little more tolerent.
Yeah, but who cares what he makes really… it’s not our money, and the team never spends to the cap anyway.
Imagine what Nylander wanted from Atlanta if he took $4 million from Washington. Atlanta has to pay a little extra to get talent… ala Bobby Holik.
Remember, we’re the team that Ken Klee turned down twice.
World Be Free
August 23rd, 2010
9:21 am
kracker-I heard the same about White, real nice guy.
GaVa-let’s “hope” that we can develop a better rep, one that will allow us to attract good UFAs without having to overpay them. Only time will tell; I’d liek to discuss the past UFAs more but I am hoping (hope again) that those circumstances will be our history and not our future.
Smoothie
August 23rd, 2010
9:23 am
Nick Kypreos is tweeting that Bryan’s contract has been completed and filed with the NHL, probably awaiting approval. $7.15 M over 3 years.
Good deal for both parties! Congrats and good luck Bryan!
Let’s hope Lits can rebound with a strong 25 goal season. We’re gonna need it!
Russian
August 23rd, 2010
9:42 am
It is not bad deal for Little. I hope he will score some good goals for us.
kracker
August 23rd, 2010
9:45 am
Excellent news about Bryan. Two down (counting Zubarev), one to go!
Then adding another scorer would be most welcomed.