During the course of the summer we’ve occasionally paused to examine just where the Atlanta Thrashers roster stood. Since we last performed such a review, we have learned of three players that will definitely not return to the lineup. Clarke MacArthur and his $2.4 million arbitration award was given a one-way ticket out of Thrasherville . Maxim Afinogenov left for the KHL, taking his 24 goals & 61 points with him. And Todd White was traded and he took his…well…he took his milk carton to Broadway.
So with that, let’s once again see where the Thrashers are in regards to on-ice personnel. But this time, we’ll concentrate on which prospects might have the best chance to make the NHL squad this fall.
Barring any other transactions, Hainsey, Enstrom, Oduya, Bogosian, Sopel and Valabikshould man the defensive corps. But that leaves one more to provide a healthy scratch in the press box. Conventional wisdom would point to Arturs Kulda to fit the bill, though some will be quick to add Paul Postma has a decent shot to make the team too. But given what Kulda showed in his few games up last winter and his play with the Wolves, Paul would really need to have a spectacular training camp/preseason to move past Arturs onthe depth chart.
In fact, I would even go so far to say that even if Rick Dudley were to pull off another deal to acquire another blueliner, Kulda probably wouldn’t be the odd man out, it might just be Boris Valabik who could be placed upon the trading blocks.
Up front… well, that’s where we could really see a battle for a couple open slots. Currently under contract are nine forwards who already have spots on the team…Antropov, Byfuglien, Kane, Ladd, Peverley, Slater, Boulton, Eager and Thorburn. Add in RFAs Little and Bergfors, whose contracts are still yet to be announced, and you have eleven of the twelve needed to ice four lines.
That would leave one more forward to dress and one or two more for healthy scratches.
Who do you think has the best shot at cracking the Thrashers lineup? (Pick three)
Total Voters: 246
Among the prospects who should have a legitimate shot at securing those spots are Patrice Cormier, Spencer Machacek, Carl Klingberg, Anthony Stewart, Fredrik Pettersson, Angelo Esposito and last June’s first round draft pick Alexander Burmistrov. Patrick Rissmiller, who was acquired in return for the milk carton, isn’t classified as a “prospect”, but we’ll lump him in as one who will be competing for a job on the NHL squad.
Of the candidates listed above, I would think Cormier enters into camp with the label of “His Job To Lose” affixed to his jersey. If he does make the team, I’d slide him between Eager and Bolts on the fourth line. Then the battle becomes which two forwards get to round out the roster.
Players like Machacek, Klingberg, and Pettersson would be considered chic picks here…certainly the look to factor into the Thrashers’ future. But unless they impress Dudley, Ramsay and Torchetti enough to displace one of the perceived starters on the team, I’d prefer to see them getting ice time with the Wolves…or Barrie in the case of Burmistrov… than observation time from the press box.
Rissmiller, on the other hand, is a good candidate for the role of 13th forward. He’s played in 182 NHL regular season games as well as 30 playoff games while with the Sharks. Plus, seeing that he’ll become 32 in October, it’s not like he requires much more “seasoning” on the farm. Anthony Stewart is a decent possibility here too given he has 105 NHL games under his belt.
And as for Esposito, well, let’s see how far his twice-torn ACL rehab has progress when training camp rolls around. I honestly have my doubts here…but Espo has youth and modern sports medicine on his side.
crossing fingers
Either way, that’s seven or so players that would be vying for two open spots…three if the team opts to keep 14 forwards. Combine that with Arturs Kulda who should be on the back line, and we could see a healthy dose of youth in the Thrashers lineup this October.
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Brendan
August 13th, 2010
2:46 pm
Again, I didn’t think I was being negative. I was trying to show that trading away Valabik, potentially, isn’t something ‘way off the table’ simply because he was a 1st round pick. And I cited some historicals to support it. It really, truly wasn’t meant to be negative, Alan R. I’m surprised that so many people took it that way. I’ll say it again, if trading Valabik away makes us better a better team with the return, then how can that be a bad thing?? Or a negative thing.
I think there should be optimism heading into this season, not negativity. Craig Ramsay very well may be our best coach ever. And if he shaves off 30 goals for the Goals Against, it’ll be a nice achievement. Also, Dudley is better than Waddell at decision-making. I far trust him more to find the right fit at the trade deadline. And lastly, nobody should be depressed about a season that hasn’t started yet, when the season is 7 months long. It’s not like Dudley went out at saddled us with Ken Klees and Uwe Krupp/Jani Hurme rehabilitation projects. There’s nothing like that, even remotely, going on. It’s a new day in goal. The defense is probably better. But the losses of Finny and Kovalchuk will have to be dealt with. Maybe Bryan Little can get back to 31 goals? He did it once before. These comments are not meant to be negative.
Red Light
August 13th, 2010
2:49 pm
Nothing wrong with your convictions Sage, nicely said, but like WBF said, hockey is too important to me not to attend.
Tom Lysiak
August 13th, 2010
2:49 pm
“That is a sheep, by its very definition.”
Uhhh, actually this is the definition of a sheep:
Main Entry: sheep
Pronunciation: \ˈshēp\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural sheep
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English scēap; akin to Old High German scāf sheep
Date: before 12th century
1 : any of various hollow-horned typically gregarious ruminant mammals (genus Ovis) related to the goats but stockier and lacking a beard in the male; specifically : one (O. aries) long domesticated especially for its flesh and wool
World Be Free
August 13th, 2010
2:55 pm
Thanks Tom-you are right on.
Sage-we do have some change, maybe not all the change we would like but we have a hockey man making player decisions and REAl cooch behind the bench. Dudley and Ramsay are 2 guys I respect in any organization. Me staying home is only going to deprive me of watching hockey which is too great of a price to pay. I go to Braves’ games frequently even though I despise the Baves’ owners and their GM.
Brendan
August 13th, 2010
2:56 pm
Joe Friday. Thank you. The character Joe Friday always says, “Just the facts.” Sometimes facts are interpreted in a positive way, and other times in a negative way. But the facts, themselves, don’t do anything. They just are what they are.
“It is what it is” is not a catch phrase. “It is what it is” is an explanation of events or facts as they actually occured.”
What I cannot understand, is why people think it’s negative to point out that former 1st round draft picks have been traded. To me, it’d be far more negative for those same players to walk “for nothing but reclaimed cap space” as opposed to what we could salvage for them. To me, that seems pretty straight-forward. And it is neither positive nor negative. It it what it is.
Smoothie
August 13th, 2010
3:11 pm
Sage, your argument might have more weight if the ownership actually had debt. Apparently, they have sufficiently deep pockets to tinker and experiment. I think they have finally awoken and taken a more conservative and savvy approach.
But even if they were still lost in the wilderness, what is the worst thing that is going to happen to them if they actually start listening to people like YOU who have supposedly spoken so loudly with their wallet? Worse case scenario is they sell the franchise and and they lose part of their investment. But its worse for the fans if the franchise gets moved under new ownership in 5 or 10 years, whenever the covenant with the city runs out.
Chances are, they’ll just move on from whiny schmoes like yourself and find more customers and fans out of a pool of 5 million potential customers. There are a lot of cities with bad ownership groups who repeat the same mistakes that our group has / will. But there are other very good ownership groups whose teams have not performed up to expectations. It happens, its sports.
There are no guarantees from spending a lot of money. And in business, there are no guarantees even if you run your business wisely. Obviously, if you make wise decisions, you can weather short-term storms and stay afloat a long time. But this hockey market is still growing and has not matured. There are a lot of young fans who will end up paying customers whether you like it or not.
It’s really funny to see you making all of these self-righteous statements of superiority because you think you have it figured out. But this franchise has already turned the corner that you think is still on the horizon. Sucks for you because you are so invested in your thinking that you will probably refuse to enjoy some good hockey just to make a point. Enjoy your lonely, lofty perch.
Tom Lysiak
August 13th, 2010
3:17 pm
Thanks R.L and WBF. Just keepin it real….
DWTOO
August 13th, 2010
3:17 pm
Hey Brendan – No worries friend. You’re not known as “The Professor” for nothing. You have good insights and I always enjoy reading your posts. And I agree about trading Boris – especially to a cap strapped team that could bring us a good forward in return. Think we’re pretty deep on D this year (whoever thought anyone would say that) and he’s expendable.
And thanks to Tom Lysiak for putting it down in writing. A friend of mine once said “Bad hockey is still better than good basketball”. Wise words. Staying home would hurt me more that the ASG.
DWTOO
August 13th, 2010
3:18 pm
Remember – Don’t feed the trolls!
R. Stroz (As Big Chief)
August 13th, 2010
3:35 pm
Um, Juicy Fruit.
World Be Free
August 13th, 2010
3:57 pm
Nurse Rachett
glovesave29
August 13th, 2010
4:05 pm
DWTOO – a root canal is better than basketball.
rob
August 13th, 2010
4:05 pm
I’m gonna be part of the herd Oct 8th. The Boys In Blue need to know the fans support THEM. That they care about hockey. Why? Because they are playing hockey and representing us. If we don’t support them, it’s no wonder no one wants to stay! You can go play on another bad team where the fans at least show up and support you. Why do the fans support bad teams? Because they love the game! You can’t enjoy the good times if you don’t have the bad times too.
SomaAtl95
August 13th, 2010
4:29 pm
Baaahhhhh, err. well said rob
We sheep need to stick around so the Thrashers don’t get the flock out of town 
I think some people would stroke out if Serta Mattresses had a night @ Philips where they gave out little sheep that have Serta and the Thrashers on them.
Sage of Bluesland
August 13th, 2010
4:36 pm
…I DO like the marketing idea of Serta giving out foam GaVa’s, rob’s, and smoothie’s! That is a great idea!
Don Waddell and the ASG sincerely thank you for your support! They’ll tell you so during the next town-hall meeting, where they empathize with the fans…and make you feel all good again…
Just like last time…
and the time before that…
and the time before that….
(You’re right–this time the words seem different; the words from Waddell and the ASG seem so sincere this time around! They really care! Uh-huh!)
Joe Friday
August 13th, 2010
5:32 pm
“DW makes killer money running this franchise and is apparently untouchable. Again, all this whining and bad-mouthing has not and apparently will not make that change.”
Wait, he is still the GM? Well smack my rear and call me Shirley . ..
“your lovely wife can have a ticket anytime, you however, must pay for yours!”
Sweet, 1/2 price!
Joe Friday
August 13th, 2010
5:40 pm
“The character Joe Friday always says, “Just the facts.” Sometimes facts are interpreted in a positive way, and other times in a negative way.”
Yep. You can face reality as it is, the good and the bad, and embrace the good and deal with the bad and try to effect change, or you can bury your head in the sand and make yourself believe fairy tales like “the boycott has had no effect” while going down to the arena night after night seeing empty seats and then watch the Spirit Squad move Waddell out of the way and finally make fan friendly concessions.
I’ve always preferred just dealing with the reality of how things are, but that’s just me . . . Happy Friday, fellas, beer thirty!
Tom Lysiak
August 13th, 2010
6:07 pm
“…..and then watch the Spirit Squad move Waddell out of the way….”
Wait Shirley, did they move him out of the way or is he still the GM? I called you Shirley as requested, but you’ll have to get some fellow “boycotters” to smack your rear. Enjoy the beer!
schroeder
August 13th, 2010
6:21 pm
You may call me a sheep,no matter,the one thing I will answer to is,”Hockey Fan”. If my support of a professional hockey team in ATL is “subsidizing the mediocrity” so be it!! I have lived in Ga all 56 years of my life,I am not a transplant. I became a hockey fan in the 70’s and I died a little when the Flames left for Calgary. I DO NOT WISH TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN!!!! So if knowing that more established franchises than ours has done considerably worse, SO WHAT, Sage, you go forth spewing this semen from your mouth about how you are the “ENLIGHTENED ONE”,all I can say is if you care so little and the thought of not having an NHL franchise in ATL means so little to you. By all means,stay home,don’t watch, holler at all the neighbors kids to stay off your lawn. Have you ever heard of the concept of an unexpressed thought! I am personally tired of hearing it. GO KICK A PUPPY AND LEAVES US THE HELL ALONE! LISTEN CLOSELY, THIS IS BY FAR AND AWAY THE BEST OFF SEASON I CAN REMEMBER AND IF YOU CANNOT SEE THAT AND CAN ONLY SEE GLASS HALF EMPTY ,WHO NEEDS YOU. IF YOU ARE NOT A PART OF THE SOLUTION,YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!!!
Befuddled
August 13th, 2010
6:35 pm
Dear Rawhide:
I just got my 1,788th e-mail (yes I saved them all) from a Russian girl who wants to meet me discreetly. I clicked on the link to her photos and she looks pretty hot. I’m torn…do I tell my girlfriend or suggest to the Russian gal to meet me at a Thrashers game?
Signed,
Befuddled
Brendan
August 13th, 2010
6:47 pm
DWTOO, yours is the quote of the day, “A friend of mine once said “Bad hockey is still better than good basketball.” Truer words never spoken.
Brendan
August 13th, 2010
6:49 pm
SomaATL, you’ve always been welcome here.
Brendan
August 13th, 2010
7:30 pm
Guys, you’re really letting Sage get under your skin too much. It’s your lives. You lead them as you see fit, or as best you are able. If you want to go to games, then go. And enjoy yourself. If you don’t want to go to games, then don’t. If you’re in the position of financial pinch, try to look for game coupons and/or discounts. Or one of these online ticket hubs that sell tickets at fraction (sometimes just one-third) of what they’re worth. Somebody out there has a web link to it. Or cozy up to an STH and tag along for the ride! It’s no sin or crime to be economically disadvantaged, people. Remember, the only poor people … are those who lack knowledge. So, here’s some tips for you. If you go to a Thrasher game at the holidays, bring an unwrapped toy for the “Toys for Tots” campaign. Bring one each time you go to a December game. In previous years, the Thrashers will swap out your toy for two “fairly nice” seats for an upcoming game, usually in January or February. The Thrashers have a list the games that are available for your FREE seats, and preferred seating location. That’s right! You actually get to pick the game or games you want from that list! How sweet is that? You can rack up quite a few tickets this way. So, why not take the whole family? The toys don’t have to be expensive. But they do have to be in their original packaging. Your local Target or Wal-Mart will have affordably priced toys that still make nice gifts for a child.
Moving right along … if you’re a hockey fan out there … and you just happen to be reading this post … it would be my sincere suggestion that you give the Atlanta Thrashers some of your time and attention this year. This team is in a brand new situation. They’re going to try a whole different approach this season. It’s not a team laden with Superstars, trying to hit their numbers. This ought to be a much more TEAM-oriented strategy this year. There’s a new coach in Craig Ramsay. There’s new assistant coaches, including an Associate Coach, Torchetti, who came from the defending Stanley Cup Champions. The GM’s office has a name plate that reads, “Rick Dudley.” And he’s way better than Don Waddell, even if he is under Waddell’s purview. Dudley is doing more with this team than, frankly, Waddell could. So, it’s not exactly “the same ol’ same old.” The car ride home might not be so acrid, even after a loss. Then again, I’m not the sort of fan who expects Stanley Cups year-in and year-out. I’m not the sort who throws the team under the bus after every loss, especially in build-years. And I’m not the sort who flys off the handle when the team has a bad game. Or two. Or Three. I’m the sort who does get angry over accountability. I don’t ask for Stanley Cups, but I do ask for an “honest effort” at it. And any budget that is $8-10 million under the ceiling does bother me a little bit. But I understand the situation. I wish I could tell you that everything will be coming up roses. But the truth is … this team actually is … moving in a BETTER direction that it’s ever been. (I won’t say “moving in the right direction,” (Copyright, Bruce Levenson & Don Waddell, 2004-present,) as I’d wind up having to pay the Atlanta Spirit, LLC a royalty. So, with that in mind, I actually urge you to come out to a game, or more games, this year.
Sage of Bluesland
August 13th, 2010
8:06 pm
“…IF YOU ARE NOT A PART OF THE SOLUTION,YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!!!”
That’s one of my favorite lines, too…Too bad you can’t recognize that I HAVE offered nothing but solutions–yet you have refused to implement them.
Now, go back to your little “Legends of Blueland” booklet and continue dreaming the dream.
But, do remember this: Don’t ever–EVER–why this organization fails. You’re just as big a part of the problem as the ownership which is held unaccountable.
Yes, that’s right–YOU have become the bigger part of the problem now…
Rawhide
August 13th, 2010
8:49 pm
Dear Befuddled,
Find out if the Russian gal can skate well and backcheck like hell on the defensive side of the ice. If she isn’t prone to taking silly penalties at inopportune times of the game, all the better.
If indeed this is the case with Little Ms. Ruskie then not only meet her at Philis Arena, put her in a Thrashers uniform and get her out on the ice. Then you and your girlfriend can watch from the lower bowl seats together.
Rawhide
Nate
August 13th, 2010
9:34 pm
The entertainment value of this blog never ceases to amaze me. Good stuff yet again.
Befuddled
August 14th, 2010
12:03 am
Dear Rawhide:
Thanks for the advice, but the girlfriend just told me she could extract a tennis ball through a garden hose. Trashed the e-mails and and my GMail account. Have a good night!
World Be Free
August 14th, 2010
9:15 am
Brednan, I take Sage for what he is, a guy with an opinion just like the rest of us. While repetitive, some of his posts are pretty amusing.
But I think your second paragraph hits the nail right on the head. Some new hockey people that know their stuff. Is everything perfect? Nope, but there are issues with the majority of the clubs in the league. It could be worse-we could be the Rangers’ fans about to deal with the hope and promise of Todd White! I think we know how that will turn out.
Brendan
August 14th, 2010
9:16 am
Sage, I have a question for you. If Dudley’s decisions, even while under the thumb of Waddell, who is ultimately employed by the Atlanta Spirit, LLC, make the team beter … and the team finishes HIGHER than 83-points this year, where does this leave the boycott? Still in full effect? Or should there be some easing of the economic sanctions?
Let’s tweak the example a bit … and the Thrashers, by hook or by crook, squeak in at #8, back into the playoffs, and while there … manage to win a game. Or two. What does this do to accountability? It’s difficult to imagine that anyone would be getting fired over those results, given the situation we find ourselves in 2010. Even at 84-points and no playoffs, the Thrashers would technically be making ‘incremental progress.’ In the AS, LLC world, that seems to be the ‘phrase that pays.’
I’m interested in your response. We cannot fire ownership. Ownership has not fired Waddell. Rick Dudley has done nothing worthy of his dismissal. Craig Ramsay hasn’t coached his first game for the Thrashers. If Dudley and Ramsay get the desired results … I know, the operative word being IF, would this change your mind about fans supporting this team, by attending in droves? Or, is the policy a hardcore one … where there can be no attendance while either (1) Don Waddell is still with the organization in any capacity or (2) The Atlanta Spirit, LLC owns the team?
Red Light
August 14th, 2010
9:34 am
Here are my thoughts on the depth chart. So many line combinations will be used, it’s almost useless to project those.
C • Antropov • Peverley • Eager • Cormier • Slater • Rissmiller
W (Grinders) • Ladd • Byfuglien • Kane • Thorburn • Slater • Boulton • Machacek • Stewart • Aliu
W (Scorers) • Bergfors • Little • Ladd • Kane • Byfuglien • Pettersson • Burmistrov • Machacek
With time and experience, Burmistrov should move up the chart, but he’s young and there is no rush to play him here yet.. Ladd and Byfuglien can play either role but are more valuable as grinders, while I believe Kane has the most upside as a scorer of all the grinders listed because of his speed and positional play. Machacek also is an unknown at this point, and of course Cormier.
D • Oduya • Enstrom • Kulda • Postma
D • Hainsey • Bogosian • Sopel • Valabik
G • Pavelec • Mason
Brendan
August 14th, 2010
9:34 am
WBF, last year … the NY Rangers missed the playoffs because Brian Boucher was one save better than Henrik Lundqvist, during Game # 82’s shootout. The Rangers went home. The Flyers went to the Finals, bowing out in overtime of Game Six.
Todd White shouldn’t make anyone excited. Well, I can think of one poster who would be. But I’m not going there. Instead, I’ll point us all to some ‘perspective’ on the NY Rangers, when there weren’t any salary cap restraints. From the 1997-98 season through the last year without the salary cap, 2004, the Rangers missed the playoffs for ALLL SEVEN of those seasons. That’s astonishing, really. The NYR was spending between $72 million to $80 million something-a-year in payroll. That’s tens of millions MORE than what is presently permitted.
Through the five completed years of the current CBA, the Rangers have made the playoffs every year except 2010, where again, they failed to qualify for the playoffs on the basis of a shootout loss … in Game # 82. In 2007 & 2008, the NY Rangers advanced into the 2nd round. They hadn’t done that since 1997, when they ultimately lost to the Flyers in the Eastern Conference Finals, when they had Gretzky, I believe.
For as much as this blog rags on Ranger GM & Team President Glen Sather … they’ve had better results than the Thrashers, despite making, perhaps, stupider moves with respect to their roster. It is a puzzlement. Let’s see if Gaborik stays ‘happy’ this year. After all, he’ll be reunited with Todd White.
Brendan
August 14th, 2010
9:39 am
Red Light, I think we’ll need Rich Peverley to have a great year. If Peverley is the next guy on the milk carton, it might get tough. We really need Peverley to continue the magic.
World Be Free
August 14th, 2010
9:51 am
Brendan, you are a posting machine! I think hockey alot, not like you. But your points in the New York Rangers bring up the difference between making playoffs and making an impact in playoffs. Again, we need to just ask Sabres fans-it is almost WORSE to make playoffs and not go very far than to not make the playoffs at all. Teams like Buffalo and the Rangers fail to make the necessary changes in their inferior teams to make an impact in the playoffs. Standing part, or changing “C” players for other C players is no improvement. No team throws good money at bad players more than the Rangers (Edmonton close 2nd). At least non-playoff teams get high picks, the chances to select quality players to improve their chances. The Rangers won the Stanley Cup in 1994-before the current CBA when they had a chance to “BUY” the Cup, which is exactly what they did.
Your point on Peverly-I was thinking about the need for quality centerman play this morning. The Thrashers have failed to improve their 2-way centerman play in the offseason. We still do not have a shutdown pivot that can win faceoffs and counter the other team’s top line in the last 10 minutes of of a game with a one goal lead. Belanger is about to resign with Washington.
Zim
August 14th, 2010
10:08 am
Red Light – Maybe this is too nit-picky, but Rissmiller and Eager are wingers. Burmistrov is a center for now (and will probably stay there based on Dudley’s gushing over his faceoff abilities, hockey I.Q. and ice vision).
Also, though Dudley hinted that Carl Klingberg will likely head back to Frolunda, I’d guess that Klinger is probably above Stewart and Aliu on the depth chart for grinding wingers.
Old Time Hockey
August 14th, 2010
10:32 am
The BEST way to determine who makes the team and gives them the best opportunity to make the playoffs? Let’s go old school here and see how they perform in training camp. Does Valabik continue to improve (as he was before the injury)? Is Cormier capable of making the team? Is Slater the guy from 2 years ago, or the guy from the last half of last year? Does Esposito have anything left? Let’s see at camp and go from there.
Brief historical: Grew up watching the Islanders…from the beginning. They didn’t have a big scorer the first year. The big pick year one was Billie Harris who was their Patrick Stefan…never lived to the hype. Trottier came along and was great from the start, but they still searched for the big scorer. ‘77-78 they drafted Mike Bossy who was passed over by 14 teams (Actually 12 teams because the Rangers and Maple Leafs passed on him twice!). He was thought of as a scorer who couldn’t check. Al Arbour said it was easier to teach a scorer how to check than to teach a checker to score (of course, he never had to coach Kovy). First pre-season game…no one really knows anything about him (pre-Google)…everyone is chatting like a concert at Chastain. First shift he gets the puck on the right wing and one stride inside the blue line rips a slapper off the far post…goalie didn’t even move. The whole arena went silent and no one ever didn’t watch him after that. Bottom line is let’s see what they show at camp. If they’ve got the talent and did their off-season work, it will show. Reading other peoples “opinions” and what they think will happen is just filler at this point. Don’t get hung up on it.
Brendan
August 14th, 2010
12:29 pm
Old Time Hockey is right. Let’s see who performs best in training camp. I trust Ramsay and Torchetti to make the right choices.
World Be Free
August 14th, 2010
1:05 pm
Old Time, Trotts and Potvin are two of my favorite palyers of all time. Isles had some great teams in the late 70’s, though I was never and Isles fans I certainly did respect them alot.
Red Light
August 14th, 2010
1:44 pm
I left off Klingberg because of Dud’s comments and I think Eager and Rissmiller have played center during their careers, at least they have been listed as such. I saw Burmistrov playing wing at camp so I based the above on how I believe they fit. And, of course, camp will have a bearing, I’m just saying this is how I believe the depth chart is right now. Don’t expect it to remain that way.
Sage of Bluesland
August 14th, 2010
1:49 pm
Brendan–I’ve had my fill of the “incremental” progress that kept the sheep in love with Don Waddell for about six years…That phrase means absolutely nothing to me anymore.
You’re either serious about fielding a winning, respectable team with the real goal of winning a title–or you are not. There is no middle ground.
The continued employment of the man who has single-handedly burned all goodwill and run this team into the ground is but Exhibit A to the case this organization is the latter. Exhibit B is the spending-pattern. Exhibit C is the minor league(s) feeder system and its state.
But their propaganda is nothing but an insult to my intelligence; and when the sheep continue to jump in (in droves, too) and continue to defend the indefensible–it becomes maddening…but also comic.
It’s funny how some of the louder sheep of years past have gone away–or have kept significantly quieter these days. I guess being so wrong so often for so many years takes its toll.
But, fear not, there’s a whole new wave of ignorant little sheep ready to take up the Crusade…We’ll see them disappear and silence over the next few years, as well…
Nope–not a single dollar for incompetence. But, Brendan, you made one statement that does bother me: “You can’t fire ownership”. This is true–but you can force them to make a decision. Unfortunately, too many are subsidizing their behavior for them to even want to change their ways.
That has got to stop for there to be any progress–or any real chance of winning consistently…Titles aren’t won by luck; their genesis lies at the very top of the organization.
With this current group, we have NO CHANCE. None whatsoever.
Aristotle
August 14th, 2010
2:55 pm
Thanks, Sage. I now get it. If I accuse thrasher fans of being subsidized sheep under the guise of circumvented rants then I have in fact become a grumpy old goat.
World Be Free
August 14th, 2010
3:41 pm
Sage, you just can’t get it through your head that nobody here disagrees with what you have stated about the past. Like I said yesterday, you can stay home in protest all you want – good for you. But most of us are hockey fans that will PAY to see the game we love. There are plenty of fans in the league that can apply your beliefs to their local teams. Some choose to go to games, others stay home just like you. One of my best friends in from New Zealand-he’d get a kick out of the sheep references.
World Be Free
August 14th, 2010
3:41 pm
Must have been the picture of Don on Viv’s article that got Sage going.
SomaAtl95
August 14th, 2010
5:12 pm
What I fail to understand is if you hate the team so much and are tired of “subsidizing” losers, why do you feel the need to come here and constantly bitch about it? The conversation, no matter what the topic, has someone who holds a poster up in the air that says “The End is near – REPENT”. Everyone has viewpoints, but for crying out loud Sage unless you’re just reposting your propaganda repeatedly for the lurkers and new commentators that come along its pretty clear where you stand. My wife is half Jewish and some members of my family are hard-core Christians and it gets uncomfortable when anything turns into a chance to thank Jesus for everything (and I MEAN EVERYTHING) and they talk to her like she will rot in hellfire because she is Jewish. The irony is that my wife was raised Catholic, the only way people think she is Jewish is based on her maiden name. If my family members would drop trying to hit her over the head with Jesus and engage in whatever the topic of conversation is they may actually learn that my wife has the same basic beliefs. We get it man, we really do. You hate D-Wad. You despise the ASG. You think that no matter what happens on the ice the men behind the curtain will be the downfall of the Thrashers. We all understand it and most everyone will even comment on the fact the we are more than aware of your viewpoint. I’ll even admit that 99% of the time we all share your viewpoint and if we all sat down at a game could discuss the game itself and engage in the debate about the business side. If Rawhide talks about what players will make the Atlanta roster I’m sure everyone would like to have your views on the PLAYERS. Take your hate filled blinders and contempt for management and ownership out of the equation – honestly – who do you think will make it? When the blog topic is about the business, management or ownership side then I’m sure you will notice all of us “sheep” actually agree with you.
Come on man, relax, drink a beer, rub one out, do whatever relaxes you and join in the conversation. I honestly think if you stop treating the rest of us posters as idiots there wouldn’t be so many people so fast to wonder what the hell your problem is.
We know where you stand on one topic. How about joining in on the rest of the conversation?
kracker
August 14th, 2010
5:48 pm
Baa baa bluesheep!
SomaAtl95
August 14th, 2010
5:54 pm
Don’t get me wrong, I’m full of “Sheeple Pride”
Just trying to pass out an olive branch to sage and actually see if he has opinions other than his usual ones.
GaVaHokie
August 14th, 2010
7:07 pm
The continued employment of the man who has single-handedly burned all goodwill and run this team into the ground is but Exhibit A
Sage, interesting this is your first example. Would this be the non-acknowledgement of the Atlanta Flames? Is that the root of your hatred?
Zim
August 14th, 2010
7:27 pm
Red Light – Out of curiosity, I looked up faceoff statistics for Eager and Rissmiller to get an idea of how much ice time either have as a pivot in the NHL. Rissmiller took over 200 faceoffs for the Sharks two seasons ago and was fifth on the team. Eager has only taken one faceoff in the last three seasons with Chicago.
I didn’t get to prospect camp, but aren’t the scrimmages 4-on-4? Burmistrov didn’t take any faceoffs?
Smoothie
August 14th, 2010
7:50 pm
Its obvious why Sage is obsessed with sheep isn’t it? Stop subsidizing his ego by trying to make nice with him as we all should know he’s only in it for the baaaaackside. If you catch my drift. Stop being nice to the class bully. He’s only a sheep in wolf’s lingerie, um I mean clothing.
kracker
August 14th, 2010
7:57 pm
From a Zim comment: “….though Dudley hinted that Carl Klingberg will likely head back to Frolunda, I’d guess that Klinger is probably above Stewart and Aliu on the depth chart for grinding wingers.”
Zim is probably correct.
However, I am wondering if Klingberg is familiar with the old M*A*S*H television program? Or worse, do today’s NHL fans of opposing teams remember it? Jamie Farr’s attire (as Corporal Maxwell Q. Klinger) on the TV show could make for some interesting posters….signs, that is.
kracker
August 14th, 2010
8:49 pm
As always, my advice is don’t feed the trolls.