Which ex-Thrasher do you find yourself missing most?

With any stroke of luck, the hockey gods will smile upon us sometime early this week and we’ll hear news of whatever decision the arbitrator has made in the Kovalchuk contract saga. Personally, I’ve been over his departure for some time now and I think this latest “As The Kovalchuk Turns” drama has long since jumped the shark.

And while I also believe that more and more Thrashervillians have come to say to themselves that Kovalchuk’s departure is The Best This That Ever Happened To Me, I Can’t Fight This Feeling that there are still a few of you that still more than a handful of fans still suffer from a sort of jilted lover syndrome when it comes to number 17. You know…loved him and told him You Are Everything while he was a Thrasher…then, through the bitter breakup period of last winter, many seemingly sang to him Don’t Give Up On Us and If You Leave Me Now you’ll take a way the biggest part of our offense. And once he ultimately took off for New Jersey, some among us felt Bluer Than Blue-Sadder Than Sad.

Since that time, many have gotten over the latest jilting of a star player. They’ve thanked him For The Good Times and moved on with their hockey lives. Sadly though, others still have not dealt with their Feelings and have been seen nightly in the Thrasherville Tavern drowning their sorrows while listening to breakup songs on the old jukebox.

But Kovy is not the first fling to take leave of us. ..and to that point, I wonder if there are other players out there you might like to play a song for. You know, as a way of letting it known you’d welcome then back to Thrasherville with Open Arms. If so, step on up and select a tune to send out to your favorite former Thrashers.

I’ll start things off with some song selections and players to dedicate them to. If you like them I’ll drop the record down onto the turntable and we’ll spin it for all to enjoy.

Selection K17 “Nobody Does It Better”– This number is dedicated to the aforementioned Ilya Kovalchuk, who is currently a New Jersey Devil. He’s the all-time leading scorer for the Thrashers and, while he would not be atop my list of players returning, many would still love to see him back in Philips playing for Atlanta. Let’s face it…50 goal scorers don’t just grow on trees, so once you land a good one ya gotta find a way keep ‘em. Unfortunately, former GM Don Waddell’s inability to keep such a good man is the reason why the Thrasherville Tavern has been kept so busy for the past decade.

Selection S09 “Baby Come Back”– This is my personal selection and it goes out to our old number 9, Marc Savard. Savy came to us back in November of 2002, acquired from Calgary in exchange for Ruslan Zainullin. While with Atlanta, Marc scored 63 goals and 133 assists in 184 games played. Although he was a –12 in the three seasons here, he has been a +30 player over the past three years in Boston…including a +25 in 2008-09. Imagine him between Kane and Buff right now.

Selection H18 – “Maybe I’m Amazed”– In his almost three seasons here, Marian Hossa dazzled us with his strong play on the right boards. Well, that is, up until the winter of 2008 when he seemed to hold a little back for whoever his new team would be after the trade deadline. As we all know, that was Pittsburgh. And after falling just short of the Stanley Cup there he then fell just short again the next season in Detroit. Last year, though, he finally caught up with the Cup and his name is permanently engraved upon it. While with the Thrashers, he netted 108 goals and 140 assists. In the playoff season of 2006-07, he amazed us with a 100-point performance.

Selection H01  “Unforgettable”– Johan Hedberg was certainly a player that fans loved having in Atlanta. And it’s hard to imagine just where we would have been last season without the Moose in net. Not only did he perform his job well on the ice, but he was well respected in the locker room as well. His time here will certainly be unforgettable.

Selection L32 “Precious and Few”– Not all of our ex’s live in Texas…but Kari Lehtonen does play there now. And I chose this tune for him because it best illustrates the number of happy memories he left us with…precious and few. The second overall selection in the 2002 draft has all the natural God-given abilities you can ask for in a goalie, and the potential for greatness in definitely there. But with Kari, the issue isn’t as much his play between the pipes as it is what’s playing between his ears. He’s has a new start in Big D right now and honestly that may be the best thing for him…maybe for us too.

Which ex-Thrasher would you most like to see return?

  • Ilya Kovalchuk (15%, 35 Votes)
  • Marc Savard (36%, 83 Votes)
  • Marian Hossa (17%, 38 Votes)
  • Johan Hedberg (12%, 28 Votes)
  • Kari Lehtonen (1%, 2 Votes)
  • Maxim Afinogenov (6%, 14 Votes)
  • Todd White (1%, 3 Votes)
  • Garnet Exelby (4%, 9 Votes)
  • Another player (8%, 18 Votes)

Total Voters: 230

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Selection A61 “Do You Know Where Your Going To?”– The latest player to officially cut ties with us is Maxim Afinogenov. His fling with us was brief, just one season. But his time here was full of excitement and thrills. He scored a career-high 24 goals playing in all 82 outings last year…quite a few of them coming late in periods and games. But Friday it was announced he was heading to play in the KHL…the league that Alexander Burmistrov called an old man’s league. While that may or not be true, last I checked it’s damn-near impossible to win a Stanley Cup Championship over there.

Selection W12 “I Was Only Joking” – Todd White. Again…I Was Only Joking.

Selection X02 “Never The Same”– Kind of tough to speak about ex’s here without at least giving some mentioned to Mr. X himself. Last season was the first time since 2000-01 that the Thrashers with without the services of the defenseman that was selected in the 8th round of the organization’s very first draft. He was definitely a fan favorite while here and the first few seasons we saw much promise in the hard-hitting blueliner. But Garnet just was never the same player after suffering a concussion a few seasons back.

There are my suggestions…but like I said, maybe you have other players you’d like to dedicate songs to as a way of letting us know they are still welcome. And remember, whomever you may desire back in a Thrashers uniform can be based purely upon emotion. Your choice is not tied to whether or not it’s feasible, practical or even possible for this player to be re-acquired.

So just for this one time, spare us the “this player doesn’t fit into our cap structure” and “that player’s team won’t trade them” logic. We are dealing with matters o the heart here!

However with that said, let me also acknowledge the one player we all wish was back with us… Dan Snyder. S37 will always be #1 on our play list and the song of Danny’s memory will always be in our hearts.

232 comments Add your comment

Dwayne

August 9th, 2010
8:11 am

There is a reason they are called —- EX’s

kracker

August 9th, 2010
8:25 am

That’s easy…Pasi Nurminen! I assume we are assumining that our favorite returning players are forever young and still in their prime.

Gotta love a goalie that will destroy a perfectly good hockey stick on the goal post in a micro-second after giving up a game-losing goal.

hip czech

August 9th, 2010
8:27 am

LOL at the Lehtonen song choice…

I’ll drop my quarter in and select S09..but will not stay to hear the whole song, instead will listen to Don’t Look Back in the car on the way home

kracker

August 9th, 2010
8:36 am

Bill, I second your thoughts about Dan Snyder.

Alan R.

August 9th, 2010
8:37 am

Easy. Of the players listed, Afinogenov will be missed most.

Nate

August 9th, 2010
8:40 am

Rawhide – You stole my player and song before I even got to Savard. Great minds/hearts think alike I guess. LMAO

DWTOO

August 9th, 2010
8:49 am

Has to be Savard. IMHO his leaving spiraled the downfall of this once proud franchise. HUH? Actually think if Marc had signed we could have retained a couple of other key players and stopped this yearly bleeding and retooling.

The Smooth Spark

August 9th, 2010
8:50 am

Uh, Daniel Tjarnqvist?

Seriously though, Savard and Hossa. They were fun to watch for those two prolific goal-scoring years I must say. No Kovy for me, but alas, time heals all wounds, right?

SomaAtl95

August 9th, 2010
9:01 am

You forgot Zhitnik and “Another one bites the dust”, but in this case thats kind’ve a happy song for everyone involved.

Mr. Willson

August 9th, 2010
9:03 am

This jukebox dedication goes out to my wife, who’s first Thrasher-love was Patrik Stefan. She didnt know much about hockey.

Mr. Willson

August 9th, 2010
9:04 am

But seriously, who doesn’t miss the lumbering beast that was Andy Sutton.

Russian

August 9th, 2010
9:12 am

I like to have Time machine and come back to October 1 2003. As you remember we had a good and promising team. We had new Coach, two first draft pick Heatley and Kovalchuk, young goalie Kari, Marc Savard and Slava Kozlov. It was not bad team. Also we were only 4 year old team. Thrashers did not have a BAD reputation. I really like to get that team back.

Rawhide

August 9th, 2010
9:13 am

Kracker – Selection N31 “Saving All My Love” can be played for Pasi Nurminen.

Mr. Willson – Selection S05 “Running To Stand Still” for Andy Sutton.

SomaAtl95 – Selection Z77 “Big Mistake” for Zhitnik.

kracker

August 9th, 2010
9:15 am

I also 2nd the nomination of Savard as being a key loss. But since most of those guys listed above didn’t care to stay here or will ever return, I chose a player, Nurminen, who is my favorite and who would have returned with a fierce game had he not gotten injured.

Pasi quite likely would have gotten Kari to train properly and motivated him to hone his game to ideally take over for Pasi in a year or two. The scenario of Pasi as a mentor/motivator to Kari elevates him from simply being a sentimental fave of mine to the loss (to injury, mind you) of a player that adversely affected the team more than the mere loss of his skill as a goaltender.

Get The Puck Out

August 9th, 2010
9:16 am

Pasi Nurminen and Mark Savard. Pasi’s was cut short and Waddell helped mess the other one up.

kracker

August 9th, 2010
9:21 am

Umm I think I will choose as the flip side to your N31 “Wild Thing” for Pasi. He certainly earned his nickname of The Frantic Finn.

Anyway, lots of good ideas and songs so far and there will be many more to come. This will be a fun day for a boring Monday at work.

Rawhide

August 9th, 2010
9:24 am

Anyway, lots of good ideas and songs so far and there will be many more to come. This will be a fun day for a boring Monday at work.

kracker – Indeed. And Trixie has made sure the Thrasherville Tavern is well stocked and she’ll be serving ‘em up from behind the bar.

*popping cap from cold bottle of Blueland Brew*

Here…first one’s on me.

kracker

August 9th, 2010
9:29 am

Jack

August 9th, 2010
9:36 am

rawhide great read. Only one adjustment K17 should be Highway to Hell.

Seriously I totally agree with you on Savard, but one name off the records is Belanger. He had some great years once he left Atlanta. If there was only someway we could get Snyder back I think all of us would agree that would be the #1 move.

Alan R.

August 9th, 2010
9:37 am

Selection M12 – “Rats” for Scott Mellanby

Darkhorse

August 9th, 2010
9:40 am

If we’re talking about former players in their prime, I’ll go with Chris Chelios. What a difference maker he would have been here, again, in his prime.

Otherwise, it’s tough to wish back several guys that gave the organization the finger. I really enjoyed watching Max last season. I don’t think he’s the difference maker this franchise needs, but he could be fun to watch. And Hossa was my favorite player here until he mailed it in. I’ll take the Hossa of the first two seasons here.

Red Light

August 9th, 2010
9:44 am

Hmmm. Not a single mention of Slava Kozlov, although he may have been as important as any one person that led to the firing of Anderson, hiring of Ramsay and other recent developments.

Until this past season, Kozlov was a pro and a joy to watch even though at an advanced age. Remember, this guy wasn’t faster, stronger or more skilled than everybody, but he did know how to play the game. I think if you can just forget about his last four months in a Thrashers uniform, you’ll see a guy who played 500 games and averaged more than 20 goals and 40 assists per season. Solid family man who put the needs of his wife and kids ahead of his wants.

But, I agree that in terms of personality and combativeness, Pasi ranks at the top!

Also, if Slater plays a full season, he will become 3rd on the all-time list for games played as a Thrasher behind Kovy and Kozzie and will vault ahead of Stefan.

As far as the song? How about The Great Compromise by John Prine? Could go well for all Russian re-defectors…

I used to sleep at the foot of Old Glory
And awake in the dawn’s early light
But much to my surprise
When I opened my eyes
I was a victim of the great compromise

Michael B. Shapiro

August 9th, 2010
9:49 am

Per Svarvardet?

GaVaHokie

August 9th, 2010
9:50 am

“Can’t Get No Satisfaction”… Marc Savard.

“I’m Already Gone”… Marian Hossa

Shawn@GSG

August 9th, 2010
9:54 am

I miss Per Svartvardet myself….way back when we were just happy to have a team here.

World Be Free

August 9th, 2010
9:54 am

Russian, around here we refer to the time machine as “Mr. Peabody’s Way-Back Machine”.

Skellinton

August 9th, 2010
10:02 am

If we are going with players in their prime

W8 – Keith “WALT” Tkachuk
R8 – Marc Recchi

J-man

August 9th, 2010
10:03 am

Yes, as Red Light says Kozlov should be on the list, but I don’t think he had much to do with Anderson getting fired. I wouldn’t have played Todd White over Kozlov, but you could make an argument that White’s intangibles (marginal PK work and ability to win face offs) were more important than what Kozlov had left. I think the bottom line was that Anderson didn’t win and that’s why he was let go. Plus, I think that Dudley wanted a direction for the team that was at odds with what Anderson was trying to do.

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
10:06 am

The Thrashers theme song should be Separate Ways.

Tom Lysiak

August 9th, 2010
10:07 am

Gotta go with A-20 – “I Shot the Sheriff” for Jeff Odgers.

Rawhide

August 9th, 2010
10:09 am

Red Light – Slava Kozlov was nothing short of a complete professional. The Thrashers were served well by #13. Father time just caught up with him, IMHO. But he’ll always be one of my all-time favorites of all the players that passed through here.

Maybe Selection K13 should be Bob Hope’s “Thanks For The Memories”.

Red Light

August 9th, 2010
10:13 am

R. Stroz…I thought you would have cited: “Ball of Confusion”

Red Light

August 9th, 2010
10:15 am

Rawhide: Thanks for the clarification, I didn’t think you were playing the Barbara Streisand card on a Monday morning. Oh, the ridicule you might have endured!

Smoothie

August 9th, 2010
10:19 am

The Atlanta Thrashers!!!

Also known as “My Friend of Misery”, but I can’t help but love them “All Nightmare Long” and even though they always seem to leave me “High N’ Dry” and “Livin’ on the Edge”. But alas, perhaps this year will be the year they have me “Flyin’ High Again” instead of humming that same old “Song Sung Blue”.

Just a nod to a few of my favorite bands through the years.

Spud Webb

August 9th, 2010
10:22 am

I want Denny Lambert back!! He’s who I miss the most!!!!!

puckedup

August 9th, 2010
10:23 am

Guy was a one-trick-pony, but I liked Darcy Hordichuck. I always think of Boom by P.O.D. when I think of his play.

puckedup

August 9th, 2010
10:24 am

Oh, and I think you should put “Mandy” in there for Mandy Sutton.

JOHNNY

August 9th, 2010
10:24 am

What about Francis Lessard?

TommyT4

August 9th, 2010
10:29 am

Also wanted to notch a vote for Frankie Kaberle…underrated defenseman who played really well while he was here and who also got his name on the Cup after his departure from Blueland.

Steve Rucchin

August 9th, 2010
10:30 am

no votes for me?

kracker

August 9th, 2010
10:33 am

Fransic Lessard is now playing lead guitar in the Bleeding Eyes Metal / Rock / Punk Band.

J.P. Vigier

August 9th, 2010
10:36 am

I had 46 points in 213 games, doesn’t that count for something?

GRITS and Pucks

August 9th, 2010
10:41 am

Fun and creative article :-)

I would have to say drop in some dimes for H18 and H01 for me; then play the tunes of K17 and L32 for my boyfriend.

Ahhh, hockey love – it gets ya every time!

kracker

August 9th, 2010
10:44 am

Hey! Lay off J.P.! He was also one of my faves…why I do not know.

Jeff97

August 9th, 2010
10:46 am

it really says something that nobody has mentioned Dany Heatley given the talent that he is. too bad he turned out to be the jacka$$ that he is.

Smoothie

August 9th, 2010
10:48 am

Hmmm grits! Damn I wish I could’ve had sausage, eggs and grits for b’fast this morning…might have to hit up IHOP this week for lunch!

G&P – good to see you come out of the “shadows” and post on Bill’s blog. We know you’re out there, but we need all the voices we can muster. And tell your bf to come out of hiding too…or is he already on here as well?

Can’t give a shout out to JPV without a tip o’ the hat to his linemate and partner in crime, Serge Auuuuuubiiiiinn!! Loved me some Serge.

zontar

August 9th, 2010
10:48 am

JP Vigier, Tomi Kallio, Kelly Buchberger, Alex Bouret, Niko Kapanen, Yannick Tremblay

World Be Free

August 9th, 2010
10:53 am

No love for the Nigerian Nightmare, Ruman Ndur?
He and Todd White need a generous portion of Air Supply.

byron defoe

August 9th, 2010
10:53 am

Does anyone miss me or Mike Duhman?

rob

August 9th, 2010
10:54 am

Got back to the computer today after time off and posted to the last article only to find a new one was made!!! Here is my post before I reply to this one.
Too much talk on here about Kovalsux and the Octotards.
A SOLID forecheck will cause turnovers and lead to the goal differential everyone is so worried about. No need for an “elite” prima dona to come in here and ruin what is a working mans game. 4 hard working lines will be fine. If they can do that, then it may in time bring in HARDWORKING “elite” players. THOSE are the ones you want. The ones with the drive and spirit, the “will” to win who bring everyones game to the next level. Filling a spot with a goal scorer without that mentality will only get you some pretty goals, nothing more. All those who see Kovalsux as an “elite” player……he has never LED a team anywhere…EVER. Giving him the kind of money they are throwing at him is an afront to the game of hockey. What will his legacy be? The highest paid player. BFD!

Milan Hnilicka

August 9th, 2010
10:54 am

GaVaHokie

August 9th, 2010
10:55 am

“It’s A Shame”… Trembley still has the season goal record for a Thrashers defenseman.

Damian Rhodes

August 9th, 2010
10:56 am

I reeked of Awesomeness!

rob

August 9th, 2010
10:56 am

I’m not missing any of the past Thrashers. Has there been one that just WAS the team? The song Time Passages comes to mind, that is all it has been so far with this team.

Heilpern

August 9th, 2010
10:59 am

Kovalchuk.

Lehtonen.

schroeder

August 9th, 2010
11:04 am

NIKO KAPENEN? Wasn’t he Todd White’s older cousin?

kracker

August 9th, 2010
11:04 am

BenThrashers Thrashers prospect Fredrik Pettersson-Wetzel had the best GAA (1.58) and sv % (.906) at the Jr eval tourney in Lake Placid.
Good, we need goalies pushing goalies…lots of them.

schroeder

August 9th, 2010
11:06 am

Has to Pasi,”You will respect my authority!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

rob

August 9th, 2010
11:08 am

for those that want any of them back, may I suggest Garth Brooks and Unanswered Prayers?

Jeff97

August 9th, 2010
11:15 am

Lets not forget the Miracle man…Norm Maracle. Or Scott Fankhouser. or the biggest thief of them all..Damien Rhodes..talk about stealing money..yikes.

Ronald McDonald

August 9th, 2010
11:17 am

I miss Norm Maracle. Sales were down 16% after he left.

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
11:21 am

Being a Thrasher fan forces you to Roll With The Changes.

JoeSox

August 9th, 2010
11:27 am

The Sheriff, Jeff Odgers.

ChippersLoveChild

August 9th, 2010
11:31 am

Life in the fast lane… dedicated to one Dany Heatley… too soon?

Dwayne

August 9th, 2010
11:33 am

Dany Heatly….”Smells like Ass”…wait a minute, that’s not a song.

Boone7

August 9th, 2010
11:34 am

The thought of never seeing Todd White on the milk carton, saddens me… :(

ChippersLoveChild

August 9th, 2010
11:37 am

Also “You’re The Best” from the Karate Kid soundtrack.. dedicated to Brad Larsen……. possibly followed by “Loser” by Beck, which I’d like to dedicate to Bobby Holik for the stellar play and leadership be brought to this team.

ChippersLoveChild

August 9th, 2010
11:39 am

Running with the Devil(s) to Kovy… “Because I Got High” to Zhitnik (that’s the only logical song to explain the trade.)

kracker

August 9th, 2010
11:41 am

Chipper, I nominate Edgar Winter’s Frankenstein for the Frankencaptain, Bobby Holik.

kracker

August 9th, 2010
11:42 am

ChrisBottaNHL Rick Dudley on Zach Bogosian, new coach Craig Ramsay and the move he wants to make next. FanHouse – http://fanha.us/6Cq

Todd Reirden

August 9th, 2010
11:46 am

Anybody miss me?

Hockey Biltong

August 9th, 2010
11:47 am

Manon Rhieaummee[sp?] Cold as Ice….

Midfield

August 9th, 2010
11:47 am

According to this, Kovy’s contract with the Devils is about to get approved:

http://twitter.com/NHLSourcesSay

Ed Ward

August 9th, 2010
11:47 am

Hey, I was really good too!

Zombie Steve

August 9th, 2010
11:49 am

Darkhorse, the Thrashers didn’t exist in Chris Chellios’s prime =)

Ferrari

August 9th, 2010
11:51 am

I don’t miss Heatley….

Darren

August 9th, 2010
11:54 am

Dinosaurs roamed the earth in Chelios’ prime.

Lord Stanley

August 9th, 2010
11:57 am

Kracker I am wish you on Vigier. He is th rainbow man after his faced turned every color know to man after the broken cheek bone

Putting On The Foil

August 9th, 2010
11:57 am

I’d take Savy, Kozy, and Kaberle as my favorites who moved on and would definitely take Savy back in a heartbeat.

jen

August 9th, 2010
11:58 am

J16: Jeff Cowan …he’s still my all time fave (and probably the nicest pro athelete I’ve ever met), except there’s no song about Bra-Barians

Putting On The Foil

August 9th, 2010
11:59 am

Too bad a lot of the prima donnas don’t have Vigier’s drive and hustle.

Get The Puck Out

August 9th, 2010
12:11 pm

I say for the whole team it’s “Enter Sandman” as the opposition is “off to never never land”. “Sad but True” is the story of Kovy, and i hop it’s our goalies who “don’t have to put on the red light”.

Thrashers27

August 9th, 2010
12:22 pm

hoosier_hoser

August 9th, 2010
12:39 pm

Rawhide & Fellow Travelers …

Savard?!? I just don’t get it!
1. He was and is a poor skater.
2. When he was here, he mailed it in on the road.
3. At best he is so-so on defense.
4. At best he is so-so on faceoffs.
5. His +/- sucked. In his defense he played on the same line as Kovalchuk.
6. He took the worst, THE WORST, penalties ever.

The best you can say about him is that he has a good shot and he is a good assist man.

hoosier_hoser

August 9th, 2010
12:43 pm

And one more thing:

Savard is soft. He doesn’t fit with the hard-nosed team Dudley is putting together. His play makes that of Todd White look like Tony Twist.

Rawhide

August 9th, 2010
12:44 pm

Running with the Devil(s) to Kovy

ChippersLoveChild – Well played!

Chipper, I nominate Edgar Winter’s Frankenstein for the Frankencaptain, Bobby Holik.

kracker – Good one!

GRITSandPucks – Hey, I just added you to my Blog Roll. Like The Smooth One says, tell the b/f to post too.

Lets not forget the Miracle man…Norm Maracle. Or Scott Fankhouser. or the biggest thief of them all..Damien Rhodes..talk about stealing money..yikes

Jeff97 – may I suggest Dire Straights “Money For Nothing”?

hoosier_hosershrugs…maybe he matured after his days here? Regardless, I would take him back right now given what he has shown he can do in Beantown. Maybe Ramsay had something to do with that?

Hockey Biltong

August 9th, 2010
12:47 pm

No love for the female goalie???

da' boomer

August 9th, 2010
1:12 pm

Have we all forgotten Steve “Fist Magnet” Staios?

Snoman

August 9th, 2010
1:14 pm

I always liked Andrew Burnette and Ronald Petrovicky. How bout Donald Audette – we can’t forget him.

glovesave29

August 9th, 2010
1:22 pm

Why dont we just have a PowerPoint presentation of all player photos to the tune of “Who Are You”? For every Ilya, or Dany or Marian we have Steve Guolla, Hnat Dominichelli, Adam Berkhoel, Simon Gamache and Kirill Safronov.

Anyone else here remember the days back when John Buccigross used to love all over the Thrashers and oft commented that we’d see a Stanley Cup here soon?

SouthSide Rob

August 9th, 2010
1:24 pm

When I think of Bobby Holik, for some reason the theme song from “The Munsters” pops into my head.

Jeff

August 9th, 2010
1:25 pm

The original captain: Ray Ferraro!

Flagstaff

August 9th, 2010
1:28 pm

Alex Bou– wait… never mind.

Brendan

August 9th, 2010
1:32 pm

I wish we still had Kris Kunitz. What’d he play, 2 games for us? Still, I think it would have been good to keep him. My next choice is Chris Clarke.

Smoothie

August 9th, 2010
1:34 pm

Don’t forget Brian Pothier and Andrew Brunette!

Rawhide – what a “cheap” way to get page views!! ;-)

Mikey

August 9th, 2010
1:34 pm

Holy Cripes! Look at all those names. I would drop a dime in the box and play tune about Savard too. Love to see him back.

One other thing though, so far the only player not to get a vote is Kari Leghtonen. Jeezmanillies, even Todd White has three!

Cliff Fletcher

August 9th, 2010
1:35 pm

Reading these names, it just amazes me how many turds have passed through Atlanta in the last 10 years. Most of us looked at these guys are said – “Are you kidding me?”

Johan Garpenlov

Thrashers27

August 9th, 2010
1:37 pm

Alright, I’ll play along…I shot “The Sheriff”. That’s right good ole Jeff Odgers.

Jeff

August 9th, 2010
1:54 pm

To heck with the players! I miss “Thrashheart” and the two biker dudes who chugged the Guinness Stout in the 3rd period. Plus, I miss Thrash repelling down from the rafters to open the game.

Dwayne

August 9th, 2010
1:57 pm

Doris Valabik and mandy Sutton…I am Woman, hear me Roar.

kracker

August 9th, 2010
1:57 pm

Hey, Rawhide, are you trying to say something by spelling Kari’s last name “Leghtonen?” I think you have jinxed the Fragile Finn. Stendec must not have recognized his name because Kari has not one single vote. I’m sure Stendec misses ranting about his pal Letemin and already wishes we had Kari back and in the whirlpool.

Dwayne

August 9th, 2010
1:58 pm

Doris and Mandy…You’re the one that I Want.

Dwayne

August 9th, 2010
1:59 pm

Dant Heatly….Fleetwood Macs Go Your Own Way.

Rawhide

August 9th, 2010
2:08 pm

kracker – Good Gawd…did I do that? He’s been gone so long that I’ve forgotten how to spell his name?

Sheeze…OK, there. Fixed.

Red Light

August 9th, 2010
2:09 pm

No love for Marty Reasoner either?

Jeff97

August 9th, 2010
2:13 pm

–> Rawhide. more like, Thanks for Nothing.

Still remember the day that he scored 5 goals in the All-Star game and how proud we were of that at the time. One of our own dominating amongst the very best…seems like it never happened now.

Brendan

August 9th, 2010
2:30 pm

I liked Glen Metropolit and Jon Sim for the roles that each played. And yes Red Light, I liked Marty Reasoner, too. But I don’t pine for any of them back, really.

Slava Kozlov was one of my all-time favorite Thrashers. But I wouldn’t take him back now, but for the league minimum. I didn’t much care for his “negotiating tactics.” Flying off to Dallas, to interview with the Stars, with no intention of signing there, then STICKING the Thrashers but good with an NTC. Sheesh. That left a bad taste. I wish Kozlov the best, but like Bobby Holik, I’m glad both he and his contract are gone.

Brendan

August 9th, 2010
2:31 pm

Marc Savard was very vulnerable to taking stupid, emotional penalties, late in games. But, there’s a reason why he’s annually on the NHL leaderboard for assists.

kracker

August 9th, 2010
2:32 pm

James Mirtle: Neutral site preseason gamesJames

WEDNESDAY, SEPT. 22
Chicago vs. Tampa Bay, at Winnipeg, Man. (MTS Centre), 8 p.m.

THURSDAY, SEPT. 23
Philadelphia vs. Toronto, at London, Ont. (John Labatt Centre), 7 p.m.
Boston vs. Florida, at Rochester, N.Y. (Blue Cross Arena), 7 p.m.

TUESDAY, SEPT. 28
Buffalo vs. Ottawa, at Dundas, Ont. (J.L. Grightmire Market St. Arena), 7 p.m.

WEDNESDAY, SEPT. 29
Calgary vs. NY Islanders (split squad), at Saskatoon, Sask. (Credit Union Centre), 8 p.m.

SATURDAY, OCT. 2
San Jose vs. Adler Mannheim, at Mannheim, Germany (SAP Arena), 1:30 p.m.
Boston vs. Belfast Giants Select, at Belfast, N. Ireland (Odyssey Arena), 2 p.m.
Montreal vs. NY Islanders (split squad), at Quebec City, Que. (Colisée Pepsi), 7 p.m.
Colorado vs. Los Angeles, at Las Vegas, Nev. (MGM Grand), 9 p.m.

MONDAY, OCT. 4
Carolina vs. SKA St. Petersburg, at St. Petersburg, Russia (Ledovy Arena), 11 a.m.
Minnesota vs. Ilves Tampere, at Tampere, Finland (Jaahalli Arena), noon.

TUESDAY, OCT. 5
Columbus vs. Malmo/Rogle BK, at Malmo, Sweden (Malmo Arena), 1 p.m.
Boston vs. HC Liberec, at Liberec, Czech Republic (Tipsport Arena), 1 p.m.

WEDNESDAY, OCT. 6
Phoenix vs. Dinamo Riga, at Riga, Latvia (Arena Riga), noon.

Buzzeng

August 9th, 2010
2:39 pm

My goodnees – 109+ hits since 8AM this morning. It’s about impossible to keep up with this blog and maintain a good-faith effort at work! Keep up the great work Bill. It’s a great hockey and fun fix outside the confines of the NHL season!

Cliff Fletcher

August 9th, 2010
2:45 pm

How about Curt Fraser to coach these clowns!
Now there’s a pick for the ages!

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
3:01 pm

How about Willi Plett to teach “how to stand in front of the net and defend thyself.”

Bluenote

August 9th, 2010
3:01 pm

Laugh out loud funny stuff today folks!

Jeff: I miss the biker dudes too. Played many seasons of roller hockey with one of them and his Mindspringers before his move from the ATL.

Personally, I think I’ll miss Marty Reasoner’s responsibility and steady work. Play him “Hard Drivin’ Man by the J. Geils Band. Great Prine reference Red Light

Other nominations include:

Denny Lambert and Jeff Odgers: Beat on the Brat and

Dan Hicks and the Hot Licks rendition of
“How Can I Miss You If You Won’t Go Away”
for what’s his name in New Jersey

Ramones, Beat on the Brat for Denny Lambert.

glovesave29

August 9th, 2010
3:02 pm

Curt is now the head coach for the Wings AHL affiliate in Grand Rapids. Its a pretty safe bet to say that he coaches more talent now than he ever did in Atlanta.

Alan R.

August 9th, 2010
3:03 pm

Buzz – I usually skim throughout the day, and re-read the comments that caught my attention in the evening. Unless there’s nothing to do at work.

Cornbread

August 9th, 2010
3:11 pm

C4: Braydon Coburn, “Give Me A Chance”

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
3:18 pm

For all the former Thrashers who were low balled on their contract offers, here’s one for the organization:

<Take This Job And Shove It.

Lord Stanley

August 9th, 2010
3:26 pm

Flames, any news on trades or signings

Rawhide

August 9th, 2010
3:27 pm

Cornbread & Bluenote – NICE!

speak2planets

August 9th, 2010
3:37 pm

Metropolit & Mellanby…and I hope this counts since it is looking into the future, but what will we be missing with the loss or Morin?? – “There’s a tear in my beer…”

English Teacher

August 9th, 2010
4:02 pm

V 11 – J.P. Vigier – Blue Collar Man (B side – You Gotta Have Heart)

Not flashy. Not a fighter. Just one hard working son of a gun. I loved to watch him forecheck, and he’s one heck of a nice guy off the ice. If Kovy worked half as hard as J.P. did, Crosbaby and Ovachicken would be second rate.

Bobby Lalond

August 9th, 2010
4:09 pm

JPVJ–And Rob is absolutly correct in his assessment of the power of the forecheck.

Lord Stanley

August 9th, 2010
4:50 pm

ET great point. Just think how much kchoke would be if he had Vigier’s heart

Baron

August 9th, 2010
4:52 pm

I am sure I missed this one in a previous post:

A61 – Back in the USSR

glovesave29

August 9th, 2010
4:59 pm

I miss Jason Williams. He was like Todd White without the toughness.

ben

August 9th, 2010
5:22 pm

Pasi, Savy, Kovy,

GT_Thrasherfan

August 9th, 2010
5:25 pm

I was hoping to find something on Ludacris’ album Chicken&Beer for this man (but no luck). So feel free to help out with Chicken Parm…
F21: Ray Ferraro.

Dwayne

August 9th, 2010
5:30 pm

Ovachicken…..funny stuff

Thrashers27

August 9th, 2010
5:37 pm

Eklund’s homepage says Kovy deal struck down. Don’t see it anywhere else yet.

Adam

August 9th, 2010
5:40 pm

Arbitrator rules in favor of the league.

GT_Thrasherfan

August 9th, 2010
5:41 pm

@Thrashers27 TSN has picked it up go check out their page, bye bye draft picks NYJ and Kovy could be fined by the league as well.

waffleboy

August 9th, 2010
5:42 pm

Adam

August 9th, 2010
5:43 pm

Oh, NHL Home Ice on XM.

Thrashers27

August 9th, 2010
5:44 pm

Awesome! So, what picks will NJ have to part with? I’m just hearing that for the first time.

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
5:45 pm

Who was right? (Thumping Chest)

League wins, Grossman loses….and the saga continues.

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
5:46 pm

kracker

August 9th, 2010
5:47 pm

Todd White w/o the toughness! LOL @Glovesave…good one

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
5:49 pm

I hear Bettman singing We’re Not Going To Take It

Nothing like some good old weird Twisted Sister

Get The Puck Out

August 9th, 2010
5:53 pm

To Kovy – Motley Crue’s “Don’t go away mad – Just go away”.

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
5:55 pm

Could this cause Grossman and Kovy to divorce?

Someone might want to tell Kovy school starts soon and his kids need to enroll somewhere or he’ll be a truant parent.

Red Light

August 9th, 2010
5:58 pm

Fallout from Bloch’s ruling: Red & Black shag carpet in Puck Agency’s foyer has been returned to Carpets of Dalton, who will re-sell it to a Dawgs’ fan!

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
6:02 pm

Here’s a song for Kovy:

Whoomp! (There It Is)

Rawhide

August 9th, 2010
6:03 pm

I am sure I missed this one in a previous post:

A61 – Back in the USSR

Baron – Nope…you’re the first. I was trying to keep it confined to sappy 70’s love tunes, but I like that suggestion too.

As for the Kovy decision….just damn. The saga will never end.

Soup Nazi

August 9th, 2010
6:07 pm

No Soup For Lou

ben

August 9th, 2010
6:12 pm

He won’t go to russia. Is it possible that he’d resign? I’ll bet Duds expected this. I did. C’mon, there’s no way he’d play 17 TOTAL YEARS, let alone 17 years on a contract! I’ll bet Sweet Lou knew it too. I’ll bet he gets a 2 year deal w/ ATL, NYR, NJD, or LAK. No Canadian team would have him because of his defense.

GT_Thrasherfan

August 9th, 2010
6:13 pm

In the things leading up to the arbitration, it sounded like the penalty for intentionally circumventing the CBA can result in multiple 1st round picks being nullified. Still it’s NYJ, it’d be bad for the league to do more than punish them for 1 season.

Baron

August 9th, 2010
6:21 pm

Anyone playing level C adult hockey out of Duluth? There are 3 of us old F*rts looking to play

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
6:22 pm

Lokking at nhlnumbers.com, there are only about 6 teams that can afford Kovy and fill out the rest of their roster.

Red Light

August 9th, 2010
6:36 pm

Multiple Choice:

a) Kovy will take $78 million for 11 years from the Devils for a cap hit of $7.09 million and all parties get on with their lives

b) Kovy takes a short-term deal with Rangers for three seasons at $11.2 million per season and Sather is quick to point out that the last time the Rangers won the Cup was with the other Kovy in 1994 (Kovalev), and he trades Marc Staal to Carolina for a second-round pick so he can play with his two brothers

c) Kovy will take Medvedev’s offer and head back to Russia

SomaAtl95

August 9th, 2010
7:05 pm

Dropping in the 90’s music reference – this is I17 – “Grossmans Lament” –
God money i’ll do anything for you.
God money just tell me what you want me to.
God money nail me up against the wall.
God money don’t want everything he wants it all.

ben

August 9th, 2010
7:14 pm

his next deal will be 2 years.

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
7:22 pm

Red Light – The Rangers have no cap room without Staal being re-signed.

Then again, Kovy might want Todd White as his top line center again.

TOO FUNNY!

World Be Free

August 9th, 2010
7:32 pm

I have no issue with paying players big contracts, just pay them when they are playing. Stinks when owners give player contracts paying them beyond their playing years just to get around a salary cap. I am glad the league won, Gross-bag and Kovy rolled the dice and lost. They’ll get their money somewhere, eventually. Maybe be in NJ-who knows.

Thrashers27

August 9th, 2010
7:33 pm

That is funny, Stroz!

Now how long will this crap drag out until he gets an acceptable contract?

Joe Friday

August 9th, 2010
7:47 pm

That’s unreal, or surreal? Sweet Lou has plan B in place, I’m think. He isn’t walking away empty handed and losing draft picks. Take two years off the end of the deal, redistribute a bit more to the later years of the contract and it conforms to other contracts that were accepted.

Mr. Hand

August 9th, 2010
7:48 pm

I do not like truancy.

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
7:50 pm

Joe Bob Friday – Yeah, but wasn’t it fun to watch Grossman get his tail kicked.

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
7:51 pm

BTW – Pun Intended

Alan R.

August 9th, 2010
8:05 pm

Soma – That’s still considered 80s, as the song “Head Like A Hole” came out in 1989.

That’s right. Big NIN fan, right here.

Tom Lysiak

August 9th, 2010
8:08 pm

I already threw one out for Jeff Odgers this morning. But, now I’d like to offer a selection for Sage and all the other “jilted lovers”. How about “Fooled Around and Fell In Love” by Elvin Bishop?

Alan R.

August 9th, 2010
8:08 pm

Also, for posterity:

“In order to retain status as a certified agent … each agent shall annually certify he has not violated CBA Article 26 (no circumvention).”

@Capgeek tweeted that on 20 July.

Sparky (Smoothie)

August 9th, 2010
8:29 pm

gs29 – re: Todd White and JWilly, post of the week! Bravo!

For some Kovy fans who can’t let go: Stevie Tyler says “tell me what it takes to let you go! Oooo hoooo! Tell me how the pain’s supposed to go a whoah!”

Lord Stanley

August 9th, 2010
8:37 pm

Have they officially announced the Devils penalty.

Jack

August 9th, 2010
8:42 pm

Karma is a real b^&*^.
Kchoke and Grossman get what they deserve

SomaAtl95

August 9th, 2010
8:44 pm

@ Alan R. yes, I know. Pretty Hate Machine was the album. Came out when I was in the 7th grade. Didn’t start listening to much music till 91 or so, when I got into High School and was actually allowed out of the house (MTV was blocked and my folks were doing their best to filter what I was listening to, fearing I would turn out to be like my older brother) so yes, while its an 80’s release I always associated it in a block of Red Hot Chili Peppers, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, The Smashing Pumpkins, etc which all hit it big (and found airplay in Atlanta radio) in the early 90’s. Many an evening of driveway basketball was spent listening to those bands, L7, Kilo-G, Cypress Hill, etc, and yes, a lot of NIN. My old man was a tightly wound cop when I was young and the only rock music I was allowed to listen to was “Guns N Roses” because my folks never bothered to listen to the music until I had already had it memorized – anything that I was listening to was sampled and I was told to get rid of it if it was deemed offensive. I was raised on Fox 97, which I hated then but started to appreciate when I became a fan of music.I pretty much went from Fox 97 in the 80’s to Alternative in the 90’s.

I use “Head Like a Hole” as one of the custom songs played on NHL 10 when the opposition is going to the sin bin. Its fun to mix in songs I hear at Philips and on TV for all the actions in the NHL games – gives a chance to add in songs you’d never hear at any arena “Star******* Inc.” and Mansons “Beautiful People” are a couple of examples.

Anyways, sorry for the long ramble. Like the old NBC ads say about reruns, if you haven’t watched the repeats yet then they’re new to you. In 1991 I had not heard NIN yet, so it was new to me. And BTW, the fragile tour stop @ Lakewood (with A Perfect Circle opening) was far and away one of the best shows I had ever seen, the light show was one of the coolest things ever.

SomaAtl95

August 9th, 2010
8:53 pm

And if you wanna get all technical about it, while the Album itself came out in 1989, the song wasn’t released as a single until March 22, 1990. “Down in it” was the first single and released in 89. :)

R. Stroz

August 9th, 2010
9:01 pm

After watching Jason Williams play in Atlanta for the first time, I nicknamed him “Creme Puff” and said, “Wow, Waddell found a player softer than Charmin.”

HookyBob

August 9th, 2010
9:15 pm

Mr Tiller, with today’s precedent I hope you haven’t borrowed against the future earnings your new 17 yr, front-loaded contract with the AJC.

I guess Kovy could be singing “No Sugar Tonight.” I’m glad we don’t have a dog in the fight as Kovy is “Already Gone.”

I miss a lot of former “Boys in Blue”. An early favorite was Andrew Brunette, good in corners, good in front of the net, a blue collar guy who went on to have a very respectable NHL career. Seems like “You don’t know what you got til it gone.”

No doubt there is a chorus of ex-Thrashers singing a version of Stroz’s choice,…”Take this franchise and shove it.”

I like the song theme for former Thrashers (golden oldies,.. right?) Hope one day you have one for the current crew. I’d give Duds some BTO “Takin care of Business” and “You ain’t seen nothing yet” for theme music. Wish he had been here from day 1. Would really like to see him build a team from scratch.

Maybe each player could have their song. I’d give Kane “Smoke on the (hard) Water.” Just ask Mat Cooke.

Sage of Bluesland

August 9th, 2010
9:24 pm

Not meaning to cause controversy (what, me?), but I’ll second the very few comments on Dany Heatley. Way before he showed what he sadly was all about, he was the cornerstone of the franchise…the future legitimate captain…

My, the heady days of the 2001-2002 season, when we had the top two–TWO–rookies in the league vying for rookie-of-year honors! How bright the future seemed! Our languishing in the cellar of the league (for what seemed longer than two years–but ignorance was bliss) seemed to have paid off with (two) legitimate playmakers and leaders to finally build around.

Nope, my vote–for purely sentimental reasons and for remembering a much simpler time–when the proverbial Sun seemed to be rising in Thrashersland (as opposed to the clock being stuck on midnight)…When Don Waddell’s words were ‘cheered’ by the fans–his periodic newsletter, promises, assurances, and “Five-Year Plans” were listened with attentive ears…when we actually believed there was a ‘real’ farm system and that the “Legends of Blueland” were not mythical fantasies of marketing!

My vote goes for Heatley–the crossroads (so to speak) between the honeymoon and the divorce…the end of the innocence…the hurricane which swept through Thrashersland that I still don’t believe the landscape has recovered…

I know that this pick is the target of much (deserved) scorn and ridicule–but it still makes me sad in so many different ways when I think of the whole thing…I lift my beer to those days and remember…

Jack

August 9th, 2010
9:42 pm

Good Point. If idiot doesn’t try to showoff his sports car many things would of been much brighter

Hokie P. Clisters

August 9th, 2010
9:43 pm

Selection BR549: Help Me Bondra. Old man Pete provided a spark but everything soon went dark when our goalies started falling like flies.

Hokie P. Clisters

August 9th, 2010
9:51 pm

Selection RU6: The Long and Winding Road: That’s for all us fans still dreaming of a playoff victory.

Rawhide

August 9th, 2010
9:58 pm

Mr Tiller, with today’s precedent I hope you haven’t borrowed against the future earnings your new 17 yr, front-loaded contract with the AJC.

HookyBob – Funny you should bring that up. I just recieved word from my agent Jane Gropeman late this afternoon that Cox Enterprises rejected my 17-year $101 contract….they said it violated some sort of CBA, (Collective Blogging Agreement)….whatever the hell that is. From what I understand, they don’t believe I intend to be blogging 10+ years out. I know I’ll be deep into my 50s then, but I think it’s within the realm of possibility that I could still be going even at that age, don’t-cha-think?

Anyway…they’ve assigned an associate in payroll to be a neutral party arbitrator for this situation. That person will let us know if the contract stands or if I’m a free agent again.

God…I just hate all this uncertainty.

SomaAtl95

August 9th, 2010
10:03 pm

Rawhide – sorry your contract didn’t go through, better off though, 17 years is just too much time servicing Cox. Eventually you’ll need to take a break, maybe drink some water, etc.
Sorry, couldn’t resist, yet again.

Brendan

August 9th, 2010
10:05 pm

Mr. Rawhide, may I make a request? I’d like to hear some Sheryl Crow. I’d like to dedicate it to Bobby Holik, from Don Waddell. Please play, “My Favorite Mistake.”

kracker

August 9th, 2010
10:16 pm

Jane Gropeman….groan. But darned funny!

Here’s to hoping Jay isn’t similarly gross.

Brendan

August 9th, 2010
10:40 pm

And the sentimental side of Sage of Bluesland appears. You’re never gonna forgive them for those horrid game programs are you, Sage? Admittedly, “Legends of Blueland” is pretty lame, as well as pretentious. There are only on a few clubs who could legitimately claim to have a slew of legends in their history. Montreal comes immediately to mind. Toronto, too. Chicago, Detroit and the NY Rangers. Edmonton. The Isles. Boston.

Right now, I’d hard-pressed to think which Thrasher will be seen, ultimately, as a “Thrasher legend.” Ilya Kovalchuk was only here from 2001 to 2010. When his career is over, he will have spent more time with his next team or teams than he did in Atlanta. And should Kovalchuk go into the Hall of Fame one day, it very well may be as a Devil, assuming he re-signs there, as I suspect he will.

Dany Heatley will not go into the “Hall” as a Thrasher. And I have absolutely no idea what team he’d claim, if elected. If Braydon Coburn ever gets there, it’ll be as a Flyer or some other team. Kari Lehtonen, barring a dramatic career turn-around, isn’t Hall of Fame-bound. Clearly, Patrik Stefan is not going in. Nor will Alex Bourret. Or Boris Valabik, more than likely. Marc Savard will not likely elect Calgary or Atlanta as how he goes into the Hall, if elected in. He’s apt to go in as a Bruin. Bobby Holik will go in as a Devil, almost for certain. I’d be surprised if he picked the Rangers. It won’t be as a Thrasher. Marian Hossa will probably make it to the Hall, and go in as a Chicago Blackhawk, barring dropping his NTC to play elsewhere. Though, he played quite a while in Ottawa.

Looks like it’ll have to be Kane or Bogosian, assuming either one will sacrifice UFA eligibility to remain a Thrasher. If Slava Kozlov is elected into the Hall, I would think he’d pick the Detroit Red Wings as his representation. Right now, the Thrashers with the greatest longevity are Jim Slater and Eric Boulton.

Jack

August 9th, 2010
10:44 pm

Any idea if this kchoke soap opera will have any impact to potential trades or signing a UFA. Would love to hear what Dudley has to say. Maybe chris V will have somethng to say…….

ben

August 9th, 2010
11:02 pm

Brendan that is a good point, but I really doubt Kovy will be in the NHL in 8 years. He doesn’t play defense. In this league, he’s gotta do that to make up for what Father Time takes away. The majority of the Thrasher legends most likely aren’t yet born. I’d rather have greatness in the future than in the past like the Leafs.

Mike B

August 9th, 2010
11:10 pm

Jon Sim, no apologies!!

Brendan

August 10th, 2010
12:29 am

ben, another thought occurs to me. Supposing Kovalchuk’s NHL career is over, and he opts for the $$$ in the KHL for 10-years or more. Well, if so, then he’d be eligible to return at age 37 to finish out whatever years are left. I know. I know what you’ll say, and I agree. “He’s not gonna do that.” All I’m saying is … if Kovy doesn’t come back to the NHL, and he gets elected to the Hall of Fame based solely on his massive goal scoring for the past 8 seasons, (ignoring his minus-80 something +/-,) then he would go in as a Thrasher, more than likely. And he’d finish his NHL career with one (1) playoff win, at 1-8. That’s kinda funny to think about, isn’t it? Lou will get him re-signed, one way or another.

Gretchelby

August 10th, 2010
12:38 am

Do I even need to vote? Really…my name says it all…..maybe Tom Waites…I ain’t missing you at all…which is a song of sour grapes is the song I would sing I guess, as I feel I am still licking my wounds since he left! X never stopped giving everything he had…I hear talk about how “he was never the same, after those concussions”…so…let Boultz do the fighting as he is our boxer…X is still one of the most feared hitters in the league, which is really his signature. He is just more recognized now by skaters who have learned from other’s mistakes and know the first of the “X” commandments ….”thou shall not skate with thy head down” (what a sign that was:)..). And what a dynamic fan favorite he was too, always good for a Ron Burgundy skit or too…or a kiss cam laugh! Always recognizing the kids in the community and giving back…attitude and heart make for a lot in a player, and make for a better human being. And the Toronto Triangle (a lot for me like Bermuda) taught me that 1. I can enjoy another team for a season or two and 2. I can road trip to see him play and buy center ice.. and 3. I still hate Ron Wilson…. it sets up other experiences- new places and friends. And to those who feel they have lost that loving feeling now that Kovy or Kozzy or Lehtonen have moved on…..if I survived….so can you….and at least in Atlanta you can get away alive when wearing another team’s jersey. And those of you happy that my boy has gone to other ponds…in the world of fans…your opinion doesn’t matter on the topic of X when it is down next to mine…so save your breath and focus on your own lost love….and survive…and look forward to the next season as best you can. Rawhide, great article, as I feel there are a lot of fans in healing mode now…it’s a hard place to be, as I have been camped out here a little over a year :) ….and I miss Marc Savard….or as he is known in Boston…”Mac Savad” too. :(

ben

August 10th, 2010
1:01 am

Yes, Kovy gets a massive contract. No, he won’t play on it as long as he played with Le Thrash. Because he won’t play defense. He may go to the Devs, but I hope he doesn’t. The Devs stile of play is boring and only viable because of Broduer. I just think he’s going to a free-wheeling offensive team. The Ruskies can’t pay him, and he’d better know that. Plus all the off ice “issues” that go with living there. The KHL is little more than a chip with which to bargain. And I think a lot of GMs know that.

Alan R.

August 10th, 2010
7:11 am

For your morning reading pleasure. Posting the direct link to ensure some people read it:

http://offsidesportsblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/analysis-of-kovalchuk-decision.html

Rhythmpenguin

August 10th, 2010
7:32 am

Throwback to a different Thrashers team.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCQld1IbYMI

hipp czech

August 10th, 2010
7:38 am

Would the league really retroactively void the Hossa, Pronger, Luongo, and Savard contracts?

That would take some brass ones, but man would that be fun. Luongo would really be a loser in the current market, imagine Vancouver walking away from Luongo and signing Niemi on the cheap. Would love to see the Hossa deal nixed too.

Interesting times.

kracker

August 10th, 2010
7:57 am

Thanks for the link. Alan. This is the comment I posted below the article:

Atlanta fan here. This is a good thing for the NHL and hockey. All these front-loaded contracts are clearly designed to artificially lower the cap hit.

In principle, I urge the league to challenge them all. However, the message has been sent and this situation can be dealt with in the next CBA.

To that end, further challenges at this time may only serve to harden feelings between the league and the players union and fuel sentiment for another player strike/owner lockout. No one, certainly no fan, wants another work stoppage.

Dwayne

August 10th, 2010
8:11 am

Great post sage….and wadell still sux.

Cliff Fletcher

August 10th, 2010
8:40 am

Hipp, I was thinking the same thing last night. But I doubt the league will want to open the “can or worms” and distract from the upcoming season. Let the Kovalchuk contract be done with, no fines on the Devils of the player. Bettman and company got their message out, that enough is enough on contracts that pay players not to play by paying them beyond their years. Management deserves what they get in the next collective bargaining agreement. What I fear is that we as fans will suffer the effects of these stupid contracts, someway, somehow. Call me paranoid, but these deals stink.

We all forgot Garnett Exeby – “Ex” did the most with the least amount of talent. Tribute – “Long May You Run”, Stills/Young Band.

Alan R.

August 10th, 2010
8:46 am

This also effectively means Grossman is no longer an approved agent. The ruling by the arbitrator doesn’t just imply Jay violated Article 26, the ruling directly states it.

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy, really. Adios, Jay!

Badger Bob

August 10th, 2010
9:01 am

Nicely said, Sage!

Bloch concluded that “this contract is ‘intended to, or has the effect’ of defeating or circumventing the salary cap provisions of the CBA (collective bargaining agreement).” Hmmmm, I remember one poster saying just that – that it was an actual violation of the CBA, not just a violation of “the spirit of” the CBA. I’m just glad the league has restored some credibility to the salary cap by finally drawing a line in the sand.

kracker

August 10th, 2010
9:07 am

So, Alan, you think Grossman is really in danger of losing certification as an approved agent?? Interesting. That would really make the agents stop dreaming up these ridiculous contracts.

Cliff Fletcher

August 10th, 2010
9:40 am

The Sentimental Sage?
Sounds “sheepish”

Smoothie

August 10th, 2010
9:46 am

Alan R – that would by hysterically awesome. Let’s hope things get even more muddled in the Kovy UFA situation as the shockwaves continue to ripple out from the ruling bomb-drop.

Someone pass me the popcorn, Rawhide is sure to post a new blog on the topic very soon! I want to sit back and enjoy this one!

In the meantime, I’ll try not to puke from the bizzare Sage love-fest that has emerged on page 2 of this blog…please turn the page!

kracker

August 10th, 2010
9:58 am

It’s gotta be an imposter Sage…maybe?

Alan R.

August 10th, 2010
10:00 am

kraker – As per the Capgeek tweet I posted on these blogs on 20 July, and reposted last night, that’s exactly what it means. Jay Grossman must certify that he has not violated Article 26 in order to retain status as a certified agent. Now that it has been ruled on by an arbitrator, and that the ruling is binding, Jay Grossman can no longer make such a certification.

Perhaps he can find work in other leagues, but he can no longer work as a certified agent of NHL players, as he can no longer say he’s never violated Article 26.

Nikita (in PA)

August 10th, 2010
10:10 am

Who do I miss the most? Probably Savvy. Though I kind of enjoyed the Jon Sim era, too.

I think there’s something you guys need to know, though. Yesterday I went to the hockey hall of fame. And there was a little salute to the teams who hosted the All Star game. And guess who the face of the Thrashers was in that display?

glovesave29

August 10th, 2010
10:17 am

There is a report that the other questionable contracts like Hossa, Savard, Pronger and Luongo are now being reviewed…

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/2010/08/10/14975886.html

I see this is a bad idea by the NHL brass. They have already proven their point with the Kovalchuk ruling. The precedent has been set. Agents and GM’s now know that SPC’s that circumvent the cap will be denied approval by the league.

The NHL has already approved these contracts and players have completed a season under these agreements. To open them up after this time has passed makes the league look petty and vindictive. If they felt the contracts were negotiated in bad faith to circumvent the cap, they should have been denied at the time they were originally submitted to the league office for approval.

While these contracts are certainly dubious in their intent, none are so brazen as the Kovy deal. If the arbitrator should rule in favor of the players, then any momentum the league has is immediately gone, and they have essentially overturned the precent that has aleady been set.

I think the Bloch decision is, in the long term, good for hockey. I am a free-market guy. Kovy went to the highest bidder, which is his right. But it was not in the best interest of the league and the long term health of pro hockey. Bettman and Daly drew the line in the sand and won. They felt what was good for Kovy was bad for the league. And they are right.

kracker

August 10th, 2010
10:27 am

The Bleacher Report has the Thrash finishing 5th in the SE Div. I never did like the BR.

kracker

August 10th, 2010
10:28 am

Nikita…Heatley?

Badger Bob

August 10th, 2010
10:32 am

201.

In early August.

In Atlanta.

Amazing!

Badger Bob

August 10th, 2010
10:35 am

Nikita – Surely it’s Kovy. But then again, if it was you wouldn’t be posing the question.

BTW, I’d vote Pasi – I just liked the guy!

Red Light

August 10th, 2010
10:38 am

Hossa is my vote at the HHOF.

Joe Friday

August 10th, 2010
10:39 am

“The NHL has already approved these contracts and players have completed a season under these agreements. To open them up after this time has passed makes the league look petty and vindictive. If they felt the contracts were negotiated in bad faith to circumvent the cap, they should have been denied at the time they were originally submitted to the league office for approval.”

I agree with you, but there’s the problem. Precedent had already been set by the league when they accepted the Hossa contract, the Luongo contract, the Savard contract, etc. So the arbitrator went AGAINST precedent (which is why the majority of analysts are incredulous that he overturned the Kovy contract). So now, to make the Kovy decision valid, you have to go back and overturn Hossa’s contract. How the heck do you do that one? So Hossa didn’t play last year? Man, I hope everyone on the Hawks had their day with the Cup already, did the engraver use erasable carvings?

It’s completely ludicrous. The league can’t now say Hossa’s, Luongo’s etc is ok and Kovy’s is not. They all circumvented the cap, precedent had been set already, you can’t overturn Kovy’s and not the others. It’s a farce, but just like the farces we have to endure with the various league rulings, it’s what keeps the NHL a second class league, bush league nonsense like this.

The only way the NHL can save face now is to let Lou take 2 years off the deal and move a little money around and make it apples to apples with Hossas, ending at 42 for Kovy. And then let it drop and take it up again in the next CBA.

Joe Friday

August 10th, 2010
10:40 am

“Surely it’s Kovy. But then again, if it was you wouldn’t be posing the question.”

I’m guessing it’s none other than Dandy Don Waddell . . .

kracker

August 10th, 2010
10:41 am

On whether or not should the NHL look into the other contracts: Yes, they should but it should be done something like this: Let what is apparently happening, happen. The aribitor will look at them. If he deems them to be violating the spirit of the salary cap, fine. Then Betteman can have his cake and eat it, too, by “allowing” these offending contracts to stand because the league has already approved them. The league statement allowing them should also contain language that teams and players are discouraged from entering into any new front-loaded contracts and such proposed contracts will be examined closely, blah, blah, blah.

This way the Hossa, Luongo, Savard contracts can go forward but the point is made to not do it again. Hopefully this situation won’t deterioriate into a league/union war that will imperil the negotiation of the next CBA.

glovesave29

August 10th, 2010
10:45 am

JF – “It’s completely ludicrous. The league can’t now say Hossa’s, Luongo’s etc is ok and Kovy’s is not”

They can, and they did.

And the arbitrator agreed.

Red Light

August 10th, 2010
10:50 am

“I think the Bloch decision is, in the long term, good for hockey. I am a free-market guy. Kovy went to the highest bidder, which is his right. But it was not in the best interest of the league and the long term health of pro hockey. Bettman and Daly drew the line in the sand and won. They felt what was good for Kovy was bad for the league. And they are right.”

I totally disagree. The decision isn’t good for hockey, it’s only good for Bettman’s dictatorial reign. This ruling doesn’t benefit the teams, their GMs or the players. What Bettman and the NHL did was try to protect the league and another GM who issued a ridiculous contract under the rules of the CBA. It all could have been avoided by stipulating within the framework of the CBA, that no long-term contracts can include that length of term, or past a player’s 40th birthday, but they knew if that language had been included, it would have been tossed out as illegal due to age discrimination etc.

In actuality, Bettman wants a strong central government, the NHLPA wants states rights and the owners are caught somewhere in between. The result: Civil War is coming in 2012 yet Bettman can’t get popular support because the slaves are already free.

The league has overstepped its bounds IMO, and I can guarantee you one thing: If this was Sidney Crosby’s contract and not Kovalchuk’s, the NHL would have remained quiet about it.

Red Light

August 10th, 2010
10:52 am

Trixie: Blog Purgatory alert to refute GS29’s commentary!

glovesave29

August 10th, 2010
11:00 am

See RL…even the computer agrees with me and put you into the “nether regions”!!!!

R. Stroz

August 10th, 2010
11:02 am

So Patricia Kane is taking the Cup to Buffablow.

I hope he pays the taxi driver this time. I’d hate to see the Cup dented because Kane was using it to beat up another taxi driver.

Dandylions

August 10th, 2010
11:17 am

Nikita – my vote is Waddell also – how sad if true.

kracker

August 10th, 2010
11:19 am

The league does not care about the length of a contract, per se. The league does not care about paying a player to play to 45. They do care about frontloading the dollars paid to the player and having the latter years pay virtually nothing to the player so that the player can retire and walk away from those last years. And when said player retires, the club is also relieved of the cap hit for those last years.

It’s all about these contracts that attempt to artificially lower a team’s cap obligation. The league didn’t bat an eye at Dipietro’s 15-year deal because he is due to receive equal compensation over the 15-year life of the contract. Which means the cap hit per year equals the salary amount per year. Which is the intent of the CBA. And it worked well until these bogus contracts came along.

Dwayne

August 10th, 2010
11:19 am

Wadell is my vote. Or Levenson with a drink in his hand.

Joe Friday

August 10th, 2010
11:24 am

“They can, and they did.

And the arbitrator agreed.”

I understand that. Which is why it’s completely ludicrous. 100% bush league nonsense that has opened up a can o’ worms that is going to cause serious problems for the league going forward, not to mention completely foul up the next CBA negotiation. And we wonder why the NHL suffers in second class citizenship like we do . . .

I read something about this arbitrator who made this ruling being the same guy that made some inane ruling on a Terrell Owens deal in the NFL? Anyone know anything about that?

kracker

August 10th, 2010
11:36 am

2nd try: I seriously doubt “a can of worms has been opened.” Not even the sleaziest NHLPA representative or player can credibly argue that the ridiculous K’chuk contract was not structured to artificially lower the cap obligation to the Devils while paying substantially more money to K’chuk.

This will be one point of many to be hammered out in the next CBA negotiations.

kracker

August 10th, 2010
11:37 am

Trixie: It’s my turn in the blog post barrel.

glovesave29

August 10th, 2010
11:37 am

JF – I am glad the NHL stood up and fought this one. It was an obvious attempt to circumvent the cap and was negotiated in bad faith. If they don’t fight it, there’s no purpose to the cap, and thus we lost an entire season for nothing.

I agree NHL has some serious issues to work out. But each sport has. Football doesn’t have guaranteed contracts, nor do they take care of the people injured playing the game. Basketball has a cap, but about 8 million different exceptions. Baseball has no cap, so the Yanks can spend on one player the same as what the Pirates spend on their entire team. MLS franchises are run by the league to control costs, but it doesn’t allow for top talent to attracted to the league.

As much as I hate ESPN, until the NHL is back on that channel, regardless of how good a job Versus does with hockey, we will continue to lag behind the other sports…and eventually soccer may pass us.

Smoothie

August 10th, 2010
11:44 am

glovesave – agree with most of what you just wrote, but soccer will NEVER PASS hockey even with the help of TV. The game just doesn’t translate well to the tube…boring as hell. Almost as boring as golf!

Your Mammy

August 10th, 2010
11:44 am

I miss The Moose the most….and Bob Hartley….I hope he makes it back into the NHL as a coach.

R. Stroz

August 10th, 2010
11:54 am

Sparky (Smoothie) – This best thing ever to come out of futbol/soccer is the vuvuzela.

Zombie Steve

August 10th, 2010
11:57 am

I agree with Glove.

The line has been drawn with the Kovalchuck pwning. Further review and action upon past “questionable” contracts that have already been approved would be detrimental to the league.

Brendan

August 10th, 2010
12:01 pm

Guys, guys, guys. This invalidated Kovalchuk contract is GOOD for the league. How are they supposed to stay in business, with these “front-loaded” contracts? One of the stated purposes of the CBA was to create “30 healthy franchises.” Does a “front-loaded” contract help any franchise? Economically, I mean. Sure, fine … it helps the “rich” franchises land the coveted free agent player off the open market. But they’re not doing themselves any favors, economically.

I do not support invalidating the existing “bad, cap circumvention-oriented” deals have have already been consummated. It’s too late for that. The time to have done that has passed. They shouldn’t have ever let it get this far. Briere, Gomez, Drury … those were the deals back in 2007 that should have been rejected, due to front-loading. Hossa, Luongo, Lecavalier, etc. wouldn’t have been attempted, if they had.

Bygones, on that account. The NHL is so very, very late to putting the kibosh on these deals. I personally found them to be highly irresponsible, on the part of the league. Obviously, I don’t blame players and their representation for TRYYYYING. It’s up to the league to deny ridiculous contracts like Kovalchuk’s, and others. I think the straw that broke the camel’s back was the CLEAR intent not to play, for the price of the league minimum, at the back end of the deal. If those years where Kovy were 41, 42, 43, and 44 were to be paid out at $3.0 to $3.5 million, perhaps this thing could have squeaked through. It was just so BLATANT. So FLAGRANT. Hossa’s deal is egregious, to be sure. But it at least has the “appearance” that he **might** play, and for a decent amount of money. (More than the league minimum.) I can’t support invalidation of existing contracts. The statute of limitations has run out on that one. But from this point forward, all deals structured this way should be invalidated, and the player’s agent BARRED from NHL players. There’s a right way and a wrong way to go about signing a player. I’m perfectly “A-okay” fine with letting the market set the value. Meaning? Well, if some GM wants to pay Jeff Finger $4 million to be a middling player, or offer a $4.25 million RFA offersheet to Dustin Penner, then “buyer beware.” Don’t make stupid deals. If the GM wants a coveted UFA, he’s got to do like Los Angeles did … and know when to “bow out” of the process, in favor of fiscal responsibility. I hope Kovy gets every nickel he can, while finding a conteder to play on. But I cannot support FRAUDULENT contracts like this 17-year fiasco, clearly set to circumvent the rules of the cap. I say let Lou pay him $8 million for the next 10 years, and be done with it. I don’t even think the NHL would have a problem with NJ paying Kovalchuk $6 million-a-year for beyond 10 years, so long as they understand the consequences of that. Namely, that if the player retires or becomes unviable, it’s still gonna hit NJ’s cap, HARD and detrimentally. And that, if the Devils attempt to buy him out, Kovalchuk is still owed his money. I know you don’t like to hear about or see the NHL as a “watchdog,” but sometimes … it’s in the best interest of the entire league to intervene to stop bad contracts. I remember feeling that way when Rick DiPietro’s contract was announced back in 2005. 15-years at $4.5 million per season. That seemed outrageous to me, at the time. But Gary Bettman said, “We’ll see, in time, if this was a good or bad decision.” But at least the Islanders were still paying him $4.5 million in those final years, and not say, the league minimum. We all laughed at Charles Wang (Islanders owner) as a “dope,” who screwed his team for years to come. I felt, at the time, that the NHL should step in … for the good of the league … to invalidate these freakishly long deals. I’m not sure, but I think the NBA has a policy that no contract can be longer than 7 years. I’m not too sure I support that, but at least that policy reigns in some of this lunacy.

kracker

August 10th, 2010
12:02 pm

Two capgeek tweets:

(1st) capgeek If the #nhl finds Pronger’s contract to be cap circumvention, it would do the #flyers a huge favor in the event he retires early

(2nd) capgeek Pronger’s salary is worth just $525,000 at age 40 and 41, but counts as $4.9m against the cap even if he retires. http://bit.ly/aq3rth

If that is correct, my understanding of the retiring player and the cap obligation may be all wrong.

Brendan

August 10th, 2010
12:07 pm

Trixie, I’m in purgatory.

Hockey Biltong

August 10th, 2010
12:11 pm

Time for a new blog. “Trixie, give Bill a nudge…”

Trixie (Rawhide's Secretary)

August 10th, 2010
12:13 pm

Mr. Biltong – Ask, and you surley shall receive, hon… :wink:

Nikita (in PA)

August 10th, 2010
4:37 pm

It’s Todd White, actually. Though Kari Lehtonen is well represented WRT the olympics.

EB

August 10th, 2010
5:23 pm

I’d really like to have all those great players we DIDN’T pick on draft day and let another team pick after us! But seriously I have to go with Kovy just because he will always be the best player to ever wear a Thrashers jersey!

Rhythmpenguin

August 10th, 2010
6:25 pm

“I have to go with Kovy just because he will always be the best player to ever wear a Thrashers jersey!” What?!? I hope and pray to anyone and everything (especially the hockey gods) that we will have another player just as good (if not better) than Kovy! Especially on defense!

Badger Bob

August 10th, 2010
6:28 pm

Brilliant stumper, Nikita! We’d have gone to page 5 on these comments before anyone guessed Charmin!

JR

August 11th, 2010
11:54 am

who are the remaining free agents? does anyone know?