Thrasherville experiences White flight in deal with Rangers

Sunday night I was out in Suwanee attending a surprise birthday party for an old high school buddy of mine. We were at the Mellow Mushroom located near City Hall…and if you’re ever there ask for Jill. She runs the place, was also in our graduating class and an all-around great gal.

Anyway…needless to say I got in a little late. Because of that, I had planned on sleeping in just a little this morning before heading into work.

But NOooooOOOOOoooooOOOOOooooo…

At 6:30 A-frickin’-M my phone lights up like the goal light behind Kari Lehtonen during that game-three playoff massacre back in ’07. I grabbed it and through my blurry eyes I thought I read a text message that went something like “Todd White traded to the Rangers”. I rubbed my eyes, reached for my glasses…yes, glasses. Wanna make something of it?…then I looked again.

But the clarity that comes with my prescription spectacles only confirmed what I had originally read. Indeed it was true…Thrasherville was experiencing White flight.

As we now know, White will be winging his way to New York city to become a Blue Shirt and coming this way is Patrick Rissmiller, a 6-4, 215-pound winger who played primarily in the AHL last season. Long time NHL tough guy Donald Brashear was also part of the deal but, as Chris Vivlamore points out, the Thrashers have put Brashear on waivers and will buy out remainder of $1.4 million contract.

Another little-known part of the deal that has flown under the radar here is that a yet-to-be-named New York Rangers fan blogger will recieve my official Todd White Missing milk carton. However, it will be my responsibility to cover any shipping costs.

Don’t worry…I dug into the deep pockets of my AJC Sports.com expense account and ponied-up the necessary funds to have UPS ship it up north by way of a refrigerated truck.

The official Todd White milk carton will be shipped to New York via a refrigerated UPC truck. I had to pay the shipping charges, however

The official Todd White milk carton will be delivered to New York via a refrigerated UPS truck. I had to pay the shipping charges, however

So in the end, the Thrashers dealt away White… who has one season left on his 4-year, $9.5 million contract… for a 38-year old bruiser whose will be bought out and a soon-to-be 32-year old depth forward who will earn one million this season before becoming a UFA next summer.

I like it.

I say that for multiple reasons. One…well, it finally brings to an end the Todd White era in Atlanta. Had Rick Dudley simply gotten anyone to take White and his $2.375 cap hit off our hands, then that was addition by subtraction in my most humble opinion. If the Thrashers were to get even as much as a seventh-round pick in return, I’ve often said, then that would have just been gravy. But Dudley and Co. will wind up with a depth forward with size. In fact, Rissmiller’s resume contains 45 points in 182 NHL regular season games as well as 7 points in 30 NHL playoff games.

Dudley did right.

By adding Brashear in the mix, even if just to buy him out, what Dudley has accomplished in essence is to buy out a $1.4 million contract as opposed to White’s $2.375 mil contract. Remember, White’s shoulder surgery last spring made it impossible for the Thrashers to buy him out had they been so inclined.

Again, Dudley did right.

What do you think of Todd White traded to the Rangers?

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Another reason why I like this deal is because it opens up a roster spot for someone like Patrice Cormier. If the 20-year old center is indeed able to make the squad this fall, the center corps for the Thrashers could be Antropov, Peverley, Slater and Cormier. Dudley has indicated previously that he does not want veteran players taking spots away from up-and-coming prospects. This deal backs up those words.

Once more…Dudley did right.

This trade will no doubt get the week off to a good start for most in Thrasherville. As for me personally,  I give it an official “thumbs up”. No…make that two thumbs waaaaaaaay up.

In fact, as soon as Trixie makes her way in the office I’ll grab her thumbs too and make it a first-ever Rawhide Four Thumbs Up-er.

169 comments Add your comment

Joe Friday

August 2nd, 2010
12:05 pm

Yep, good deal by Wadudley, thumbs up here. Still think we have more moves to make to bring in some scoring.

Tom

August 2nd, 2010
12:05 pm

{Copied from previous post}

A shellshocked goaltender typically does not have a very good go of it. That is why I think the Thrashers would be a good fit for Niemi right now.

– They have a coach and 4 teamates that he played with on the STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONSHIP team to make him feel comfortable.

– He would get as much or as little playing time needed to get back into shape mentally for the playoffs as the team would be very deep.

– The team would be able to pay him well as we need to get to the cap minimum.

– He even knows the GM of the team as they worked together in Chicago.

All in all it would be a good fit for the young goaltender even on a 1 year deal.

Jack

August 2nd, 2010
12:05 pm

It will be interesting what the next move will be. First

Smoothie

August 2nd, 2010
12:07 pm

Great blog Bill! Very well written. And fun! I get a chuckle picturing you with some big thick bi-focals! ;-)

rob

August 2nd, 2010
12:11 pm

Who allowed Todd White and his mom to vote thumbs down?

rob

August 2nd, 2010
12:15 pm

Rawhide,
If you can read this, I suggest holding onto the milk carton and auctioning it off to charity. The fact that there are folks voting thumbs down leads me to believe I am on to something here.

World Be Free

August 2nd, 2010
12:24 pm

Todd had to go, if for no other reason that he reminded us how bad this organization has been for 10 years+. Now he joins Holik, Rucchin, Ruman Ndur and the other in our mediocre (at best) past. Didn’t matter what we got back, as long as it wasn’t Wade Redden. I guess this means Dudley is not a lap dog after all.

And I agree, there are other moves out there.

Mikey

August 2nd, 2010
12:27 pm

“At 6:30 A-frickin’-M my phone lights up like the goal light behind Kari Lehtonen during that game-three playoff massacre back in ’07″

You just had to go there, didn’t you?

“Rawhide, If you can read this, I suggest holding onto the milk carton and auctioning it off to charity. The fact that there are folks voting thumbs down leads me to believe I am on to something here”

rob, I wouldn’t worry too much about that. Todd only has so many family members.

Spud Webb

August 2nd, 2010
12:30 pm

Bye todd, what till those fans get a load of him.
WOW so the hawks sign turco for 1mill less than Niemi!!! Walk away from the court appearance!!!!!! Best part, turco turned down 2 mill a season with the flyers, very, very interesting.
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Grinder/entry/view/73203/blackhawks-decline-arbitration-on-antti-niemi-sign-marty-turco-instead

Toby

August 2nd, 2010
12:30 pm

Great trade. We freed up $800,000 in actual $$ spent and freed up a roster spot for Cormier. I see the Flyers and Sharks racing to free up space for Neimi. Lets trade Thorburn for a top-6 scorer : )

AThrashrfan13

August 2nd, 2010
12:33 pm

As I posted in another blog a short time ago, Dud’s is dfinitely not done yet. He wants his 25-30 goaler and is taking baby steps to get there. Even with Cormier up and signing a couple of RFA’s, he’s still under the floor. Does he take a chance on Max? Stempniak? The next few weeks will be a hoot, I think. Dud’s is in the pocess of trading paperclips on the proverbial NHL ‘Craigs List’…..and he will end up with his Porsche……

AThrashrfan13

August 2nd, 2010
12:39 pm

Bring in Cormier and Postma, Sign Bergfors at 1.25m, Max at 1.75 mil and we are at 23/$45.5 Mil…..just a thought

World Be Free

August 2nd, 2010
12:41 pm

If White thinks we were hard on him, wait till the Ranger fans get ahold of him. Yet another nail in Glen Sather’s job status in New York.

hip czech

August 2nd, 2010
12:44 pm

Would Waddle have had the intelligence to pull off the White trade?

I don’t know all the behind the scenes stuff, but seems to me Dudley has a lot more pull in dealing with other GMs then Waddell ever did.

I guess that’s what happens when you are taken seriously.

Red Light

August 2nd, 2010
12:45 pm

If there is one, the next acquisition has to address one of the top six forward slots. It’s apparent that Dudley has done everything in his power to make the bottom six one of the most formidable groups in the game. Can’t touch Washington’s bottom six yet, but then again, who can?

Rawhide

August 2nd, 2010
12:49 pm

Still think we have more moves to make to bring in some scoring

Joe Friday – Yup…I agree.

I get a chuckle picturing you with some big thick bi-focals!

Smoothie – Whatch it, ya young whipper-snapper! I’ll beat your @$$ with my cane!

You just had to go there, didn’t you?

Mikey – Just tryin’ to paint the visual for ya’ll.

If White thinks we were hard on him, wait till the Ranger fans get ahold of him

WBF – He has nooooooo idea what he’s in for should he repeat his performance of last season. Yikes! :shock:

kracker

August 2nd, 2010
12:49 pm

hahaha No rest for the wicked, Bill!

Alan R.

August 2nd, 2010
12:55 pm

Don’t forget, guys. Brashear’s contract is of the “35+” variety. This means he signed his current deal when he was age 35+.

The entirety of his salary will count towards the salary cap. We buy out Brashear and keep this other guy on the roster as a spare part, and we’re that much closer to the cap floor.

I can’t believe I just said that: “closer to the cap floor.” Sigh.

Rawhide

August 2nd, 2010
1:01 pm

kracker – If it means anything to you, your’s was the first text message that got through!

World Be Free

August 2nd, 2010
1:03 pm

hip czech-think about how long Dudley has known Glen Sather? They played against each other in the 70’s. This is one of the advantages to having a guy like Dudley as your GM (and Rammer as your coach). These guys are known commodities. So to add to your point, would Don have had the relationship with Sather to make this deal that Dudley enjoys?

Rawhide-The East River isn’t far from Madison Square Garden.

ben

August 2nd, 2010
1:06 pm

Give Max some of White’s money. This team just got younger and better. It got more skill just by White not being here. I still don’t think we’re making the playoffs, but I don’t think we’re going to be a joke either.

Todd White

August 2nd, 2010
1:07 pm

I leave you gentleman now and you will write it. You will interpret it. That’s your right. But as I leave you I want you to know — just think how much you’re going to be missing. You won’t have Todd White to kick around any more, because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference in Thrasherville.

Smoothie

August 2nd, 2010
1:17 pm

Bill – ha ha LOL You know it, you know it! Don’t worry, there’s no age limit in the Blueland Chronicle perch of crazed, drunken fandom!! ;-)

Gotta give Mike Russo from the Star Tribune (he’s always looking out for us due to his friendship with Duds) the ol’ tap of the stick for breaking this news at 1:30 am on twitter. Problem is: no one was awake to read it!!

Mikey

August 2nd, 2010
1:18 pm

Per Vivlamore tweet: Todd White says, “”I’m excited to be going to New York. It’s a great opportunity and a great team. I think I can add a lot”

OK Todd, Buh-bye

lola

August 2nd, 2010
1:18 pm

No rest for the BlogMaster! especially when you’ve got great news like that to share!

Sage of Bluesland

August 2nd, 2010
1:20 pm

Wow–I have to give Dudley credit here, no matter what the details are (and the “cons”–as there are several ‘thumbs-down’ votes?).

It’s a matter of principle sometimes. This guy epitomizes so many misfires of the Don Waddell seemingly neverending reign of incompetence…

(too bad, as I DID like the milk-carton picture–that was clever indeed)

Smoothie

August 2nd, 2010
1:24 pm

OMG!! Sage and I actually agree on something! I just posted the same sentiments he expressed on my blog! Wonders never cease.

Dudley will not only make us better but he will unite the entire Thrashers universe!

Cornbread

August 2nd, 2010
1:26 pm

This has got to be the happiest day of Rawhide’s Thrasher blogging career.

World Be Free

August 2nd, 2010
1:28 pm

A lola sighting! I thought they were bringing in Brashear to replace Boulton-Bolts is resting easier this afternoon!

I agree with Sage, more often then not-he certainly been correct about our past!

lola

August 2nd, 2010
1:32 pm

WBF: Bite your tongue …. or typing fingers!

James Brown

August 2nd, 2010
1:41 pm

Next couple of deals or additions will be interesting……….I say bring Max back……..a top six foward and one of the fastest skaters in the league………..the money is there now

Smoothie

August 2nd, 2010
1:46 pm

WBF – I’m starting to worry about you man! ;-) Too many hits to the head playing hockey. j/k Don’t think anyone has said that Sage’s take on Waddell was off-base. We’re just sick of hearing it and he never gave Donnie any ounce of credit in the rare instances he did something right. By the way, anyone who doesn’t think Dudley had a large role in orchestrating the Kovy deal is probably living in a paralell bizzaro universe of ignorant bliss.

Rawhide – still can’t believe you didn’t use “flushing the Charmin into the East River” for your headline. No, that wouldn’t be nice. Unfortunately nickname for a good dude and a class act. He had a bad string of luck and we actually got our money’s worth for 1 of the 3 years he was here.

World Be Free

August 2nd, 2010
1:55 pm

Smoothie, yeah is gets old but he sure is on the mark when describing the past. Let’s hope we have turned the corner.

lola-I knew that would get you going! No worries, Bolts is the man hear, Brashear is long in the tooth.

Smoothie

August 2nd, 2010
1:59 pm

I suppose, but it doesn’t take a genius to figure that out! And I think the majority of the folks who post here would prefer to not live in the past. Hopefully the ASG has learned a little bit from their past mistakes, but more importantly, let’s hope we can find a buyer or another big investor who care(s) more about hockey in Atlanta and growing the sport into what it can / should be.

glovesave29

August 2nd, 2010
2:01 pm

Duds has more freedom to do what he wants because he has options. He has a track record that makes him a desireable asset to any team. DW…quite the opposite. He had to be a lackey for the Octotards because he knew he could not get another equivalent gig elsewhere. Rick works from a position of strength as opposed to one of self preservation.

So the money is freed up now. Go get Max and Stempniak and lets get going!!!

Oh, and Mr. White? Enjoy Hartford.

kracker

August 2nd, 2010
2:02 pm

Tweet: capgeek Buyouts of Rismiller, Brashear cost #thrashers $1.533m. Savings of about $842,000 from White’s $2.375m

Have we/do we intend to buy out Rissmiller?

World Be Free

August 2nd, 2010
2:04 pm

Yeah let’s hope Dudley has us on the 5 month plan

Smoothie

August 2nd, 2010
2:04 pm

Interesting, did not think we would buy out Rismiller. But then again, doesn’t he have to clear waivers first? Is he on waivers?

UPS driver

August 2nd, 2010
2:05 pm

Yo. I just put dat Tod White milk carton thingy on da truck and ready to haul it all up to New York. But somebody also placed several dozen cases of Charmin on the shipping order ta go wid it too.

Wazzup-wid-dat?

Red Light

August 2nd, 2010
2:27 pm

kracker:

Cap Geek failed to mention what it would have cost to buy out White. If they bought out White instead of Brash and Rissmiller, at a cost of 67 percent, the buyout figure for White’s salary for this season would have been $1.742 million, so the savings is $209k not $842k.

Mikey

August 2nd, 2010
2:34 pm

“BlogMaster”. lola, is that meant like “TalkMaster” ala Neal Boortz? LOL

It should be a good battle for some open roster spots between Cormier, Klingberg and few others. Good old fashion competition. Got to love it.

Midfield

August 2nd, 2010
2:36 pm

A $209K savings deal? Levenson and Sydell must be very pleased. Who said this franchize is not run sharply?

hip czech

August 2nd, 2010
2:38 pm

Rissmiller will not be bought out…he’ll either be in competition for a 4th line spot or be sent to Chicago

Rawhide

August 2nd, 2010
2:39 pm

This has got to be the happiest day of Rawhide’s Thrasher blogging career

Cornbread – Nah….I’m really gonna miss that milk carton.

kracker

August 2nd, 2010
2:40 pm

Red Light, Some people have posted that the Thrashers could not buy out White because of his shoulder injury and surgery/rehab, per the CBA. I don’t know if that’s true or not but if so then Dudley was figuring based on White’s cap number of $2.375M (if that is correct.) For the owners wallets, Dudkley removed an unwanted salary of $2.75M for the lesser amounts coming back, where one or both can be bought out.

kracker

August 2nd, 2010
2:44 pm

For our Buffalo Boys: Twitter – HockeyJoePHT In Buffalo, when you can’t walk away, you can always waive good-bye. RT @TSNRyanRishaug Tim kennedy placed on waivers, likely buyout coming.

Red Light

August 2nd, 2010
2:44 pm

I think that’s true today kracker, but once he is medically cleared I think they could have. I think the move was a solid one because now we should get a chance to witness the development of a younger player here rather than in Chicago. One of these “kids” should get around 12-15 minutes per game here.

Smoothie

August 2nd, 2010
2:45 pm

No one has reported that we have bought out Rismiller. Why buy him out when he can help you stay above the floor and play here and in AHL. I know it’s not like the Thrashers to pay a guy a full NHL salary to play in CHI, but it’s not that much money. Besides, if we didn’t get rid of White, we’d be paying him $2.6 M in cash to play spot minutes. Not a good idea. Thus a savings of $735 k in cash.

Smoothie

August 2nd, 2010
2:47 pm

Ben Wright tweeted last week that Todd White hadn’t been cleared medically yet to play hockey. Perhaps the trade is pending a physical?

But regardless, even if cleared medically, I thought I recall Ben saying that the team for which he played the year of the injury could not buy him out. Perhaps I’m remembering wrong.

Hockey Biltong

August 2nd, 2010
2:51 pm

RH- Trixies car would not start this am , so she will be late.Waiting on jumper cables.

World Be Free

August 2nd, 2010
2:54 pm

kracker-Sabres most screwed up team in the league.

kracker

August 2nd, 2010
2:59 pm

The analogy may not fit but I’m thinking Dudley knows GMing like a WWI or II pilot knows flying “by the seat of his pants.” They just know how to do it, it’s in their blood and in their mind and their daily concern was the health and servicability of their airplane.

Waddell…well he was a career 2nd seat guy in charge of the plane, constantly referring to the checklist, the flight manual and fiddling with the radio looking for help. He made do with over-worn parts. His plane, when it flew at all, flew erratically and he was constantly over-correcting for his last mid-flight wrong-way heading.

The owners of the airline are at last breathing a bit easier and wondering why they didn’t push Waddwll out at 30,000 feet at the end of the lockout.

kracker

August 2nd, 2010
3:07 pm

Capgeek update RE Rissmiller: capgeek Please note, an earlier Tweet was not meant to confirm Rissmiller has been bought out. It was to show the cap impact of a potential buyout.

[Lame explanation, Imo]

Rangers Fan

August 2nd, 2010
3:09 pm

The Cup is ours

R. Stroz

August 2nd, 2010
3:13 pm

I bet Nikita voted Thumbs Down.

kracker

August 2nd, 2010
3:16 pm

BenThrashers Byfuglien, Eager, Ladd & Mason will keep their jersey numbers from last season. Sopel switches to #3. http://bit.ly/bYSNSn #Thrashers

#3 was Pops wasn’t it?

Russian

August 2nd, 2010
3:16 pm

Niemi might be OURS. Atlanta is one of other team to try to get Finn Goalie.
Do we want HIM???
He has one Stanley Cup. He was great in PO. He is young also.
Do we want HIM???
We have Mason and Pavs for 2 years. Pavs was playing half a season here. He did play very well one game and blow second one. Mason is old goalie. But we did not see him in Atlanta. I do not know how he will play here.

kracker

August 2nd, 2010
3:22 pm

Was Neimi in Chicago or on the farm when Dudley was in Chicago? I’m asking, does Dudley know Niemi’s character and attitude, work ethics, etc??

Russian

August 2nd, 2010
3:27 pm

**to kracker**
I do not know about Dudley and Niemi, But Torch was with him all the time.

Red Light

August 2nd, 2010
3:30 pm

If Niemi is a significant upgrade, then Dudley would have gotten him in one of the prior deals if Bowman the Younger was expecting a $2.75 million cap hit, and from all indications he was. Unlikely he lands here as a UFA. To me, it makes little sense that the Blackhawks didn’t get something in return for him prior to arbitration ruling. Maybe Bowman has too many balls in the air at once. Sure, Niemi will be 27 later this month and was undrafted, but an asset is an asset and this one could have been worth at least a 2nd rounder IMO, if not more.

kracker

August 2nd, 2010
3:38 pm

Red Light and Russian, those are good points. I forget the Torch is here also. I suppose Bowman was perhaps gambling on winning the arbitration…but then again, people seem to know how the arbitor will rule beforehand.

Nikita (in PA)

August 2nd, 2010
3:43 pm

Nikita votes meh. When I got the alert from a friend of mine this morning, it simply said “White traded to NYR for Brashear and Rismiller.” I turned to my husband and said “if it’s true, that team is dead to me.” I detest Brashear. He’s a pathetic player and a bully. And he’s actually a pretty sad enforcer who hugs people rather than pummeling them. I doubt I’d watch any game in which he played.

As for the White portion, keep in mind I also watch NYR. So I wish him luck. I think in the short-term he’ll help stabilize their roster — they need it.

Rawhide

August 2nd, 2010
3:44 pm

Per Jeff Schultz tweet… “Thrashers GM Rick Dudley just clinched NHL Executive of the Year. He traded Todd White”

Agreed!

Thrashers27

August 2nd, 2010
3:48 pm

A nice write-up on Kari’s beginnings in Dallas.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=535352

Badger Bob

August 2nd, 2010
3:51 pm

kracker and WBF: there is stiff competition for most screwed up team. All my buddies in Calgary would resent Buffaloers assuming they get the reward. NYR, TO and Columbus have very strong resumes.

One way to evaluate most screwed up team award – bang for the buck. I’d say a good GM can build a strong contending team with $55M in salary. That’s where Washington, Detroit and San Jose all are. Now consider there are 12 other teams with a salary higher than $55M. Among those, Calgary, Minnesota and Toronto have little chance to contend for their division title, let alone anything else. There will be at least three cap max teams from both the Atlantic and Northeast Divisions that don’t win their division. Those are some messed up teams. It sucks to have an internal cap like the Thrash do, but it really would suck more to be cap max and no even contend for a division title.

Thomas Magnum

August 2nd, 2010
4:01 pm

With this move freeing up a little more money, its looking more and more like there is still a move to be made that brings in another player. Who do you think Duds will attempt to sign? Think he is gonna give Max a 2 year deal now? Another trade in the works? If so, with who? Something is happening…

TODD WHITE

August 2nd, 2010
4:12 pm

YOU WON’T HAVE TODD WHITE TO KICK AROUND ANYMORE.

Mikey

August 2nd, 2010
4:13 pm

I would like to raise a glass in toast of the New York Rangers. Not only did they just take Todd White off of our hands but remember they were the team that helped us rid ourselves of Alex Bourret back in 2007.

If memory serves correctly we got Pascal Dupuis in that deal.

Nikita (in PA)

August 2nd, 2010
4:19 pm

Please god, don’t give Max a 2 year deal. He works best when motivated by a short-term contract.

alex

August 2nd, 2010
4:21 pm

the sad part story is: imagine poor don had been fired 6 years ago (any nhl owners, but asg did this in a blink of eye). so atlanta got some not joke gm in 2005. and we in playoff year after year, because only don is capable of so terrible record. my point this real gm could be fired here couple of times for reason asg got spoiled and not satisfied with for example exit in first round opposite division champ in previous year. ok dw still here thank god not in gm role

Darkhorse

August 2nd, 2010
4:29 pm

It would be likely to assume the Todd White deal has nothing to do with the ability,(or not) to sign Max, as he should have been a doable option before this trade happened anyway. I would really love to think it was a small part of bait leading to much bigger catch soon.

schroeder

August 2nd, 2010
4:38 pm

I think there should be enough left now to sign both Stempniak and Max and let them all fight it out at camp,younger players and all. I don’t think you can have too many quality players. If you lose one 20-30 goal scorer to injury,are you gonna turn to the likes of Thorburn to pick up the scoring slack? Nah, not his role, Now you look to have depth,one of the myriad of things this club has lacked. WOW now I’m gonna have to change brands, I got use to not buying Charmin,because I would look at the wrapper and all I saw was #12. THIS MAKES MY DAY COMPLETE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Flagstaff

August 2nd, 2010
4:42 pm

We’re not the only ones fantasizing about Niemi. NHL radio listed four or five teams where he might go, and the Thrashers were one of them. I say to sign him and to deal Pavelec to the Leafs for their first rounder (if they are stupid enough to trade another one away. But Colby Armstrong? The cup is THEIRS!), or if not them, then some other crap team.

Chainshaw

August 2nd, 2010
4:51 pm

We are now rid of Todd White and Natalie Taylor. This is going to be a GREAT year!

schroeder

August 2nd, 2010
4:57 pm

Hey we could sign Niemi and trade Pavelec to the Leafs for Versteeg. Did I just hear Rod Serling…………..” Submitted for your approval, the team you see before you once played in Chicago but now 70% of this team now skates in Blueland, a place in the suburbs of THE TWILIGHT ZONE”

Nikita (in PA)

August 2nd, 2010
4:57 pm

Chainsaw, you know they’re the same height, right?

schroeder

August 2nd, 2010
5:11 pm

Nikita, they may be the same height,but I bet she would not be so easy to bump off the puck or turn away from the corners.

kracker

August 2nd, 2010
5:16 pm

Funny, schroeder, though I think we are trying to escape the decade long TZ episode we have been treadmilling. …..Or has it been Groundhog Day?? Is that Bill Murray I keep seeing over in section 104?

kracker

August 2nd, 2010
5:18 pm

This is a joke, maybe? Well, he is a BIG pylon….

icemancometh Ducks are expected to sign free-agent D Andy Sutton, who played with NYI and Ottawa last season.

AThrashrfan13

August 2nd, 2010
5:57 pm

LOL….chainsaw you are correct. That dimwitted Taylor was absolutley awful…..at least get her some decent script-writers and question-crafters. Iif I had to hear “So, what do you have to do to win this game…” come ot of hr mouth at every game for one more season, I was going to go down and throw her in the back of the net so she would see where it is and answer her own damn question!

Hokey P. Clisters

August 2nd, 2010
6:05 pm

I always thought Brashear deserved some type of “payback” for jumping Bogie a few years ago but this was not what I had in mind.

Yung JB from Montreal

August 2nd, 2010
6:08 pm

Thank godddddd and its a great addition in Rissmiller. WOW is what my message to Duds will be, hes amazing… Next year looks delicious

Milk Carton

August 2nd, 2010
6:28 pm

I miss Todd White already.

Brendan

August 2nd, 2010
6:31 pm

Good job, Dudley! Must have been Glenn Sather. No other GM would take White. Can’t wait to hear Marian Gaborik’s reaction to being reunited with Todd White.

E

August 2nd, 2010
6:45 pm

I just have to say how EXTREMELY happy I am with Dudley after this move, not to mention all the previous ones he has made, but this one really thrills me. I agree with him completely about dumping veterans to make room for younger players. Cormier should be an improvement over White in not only size, grit, and speed but also in his price tag. Dudley just dumped our last main dead weight issue. I still think I would have went with R2 over Bolts but this move even makes up for that imo!

Mrs. Zoomo

August 2nd, 2010
7:17 pm

I bet you’ll find someone else for the milk carton

ex-STH

August 2nd, 2010
7:21 pm

With the much asked for trade of White, I will now be known as ex-ex-STH. Just wrote the check to “Service and Retention” for my sect 111 season tickets! Thanks Duds.

World Be Free

August 2nd, 2010
8:47 pm

Teams with major cap issues-
Boston, Blackhawks, Toronto, Calgary, Flyers, Vancouver, NY Rangers, Devils (depending on Kovalchuk).

Hokey P. Clisters

August 2nd, 2010
9:49 pm

Is there any thought of Trixie replacing Natalie? Mr. Rawhides should strike while the oven is hot! I can just hear Darren saying…..now for our 1st intermission interview we have Trixie with Antro. Trixie says: “Hey Antro – how bout shooting the puck!” Then for the 2nd intermission Trixie interviews Buff. Trixie says “Hey Buff, what time are you gonna start playing?” That would be priceless……

hoosier_hoser

August 2nd, 2010
9:55 pm

Rawhide!
What are you going to do about your jersey? I assume #12 will be coming off the back. Whose number will you co-opt for 2010-2011?

Rawhide

August 2nd, 2010
10:02 pm

Hockey P. Clisters – That’s actually not a bad idea. I’ll ask her.

hoosier_hoser – Actually, the number on the back of my jersey is 65

R. Stroz

August 2nd, 2010
10:26 pm

I can now retire from writing Charmin Songs, well one more:

(To the Cadence of You’re Happy And You Know It)

If you’re a Ranger and you suck,
You’re Todd White,

If your GM is dumber than Waddell,
You’re Todd White,

If you’re softer than Charmin,
and every shift you show it

If you’re finally out of Atlanta,
You’re Todd White

Tom

August 2nd, 2010
10:26 pm

Mandy Sutton got signed by Anaheim for 2 years. Another safe bet for not winning the Cup.

Red Light

August 2nd, 2010
10:53 pm

And, Darcy Regier made the best move of the day by signing Shaone Morrisonn to a two-year deal. C’mon World Be Free, Smile!

DB

August 2nd, 2010
11:00 pm

One suggestion, refer to White’s tenure as the Todd White error. Kind of like the DW error.

Brendan

August 2nd, 2010
11:36 pm

Applause for Darcy Regier. C’mon, WBF. Give it up.

Before the topic of the day’s event dies, the Blackhawks walked away from Niemi at $2.75 million. I thought they might re-engage at a lesser price, but Chicago just signed Turco for $1.3 million. So, what goalies are left? I don’t think Theodore has a contract yet. And I’m a little surprised.

Brendan

August 2nd, 2010
11:39 pm

Tom, Mandy might actually do well in Anaheim. Of all the teams he could have gone to, and helped, and “fit” their system and style, Anaheim was one of the few that seemed to make any kind of sense. Imagine how bad the Ducks felt, however, knowing that their 1st rounder they acquired from Philadelphia in the Pronger trade … would up being # 29 overall. That’s just some bad luck.

Brendan

August 2nd, 2010
11:45 pm

Red Light, I know the ship has sailed, but I really wanted Simon Gagne from the Flyers. Didn’t seem like a huge asking price, either. What was it?, a 4th rounder and a middling 3/4 defender. Too late now.

Is there a center out there for the plucking? We have cap room.

Brendan

August 3rd, 2010
12:04 am

Mandy got $2.125 million per year, for a cap hit. It was a 2-year deal worth $4.25 million. I don’t know what website you go to find a player’s “career earnings,” but let’s try to piece it together. I think Sutton was with Nashville before Atlanta, if I’m remembering correctly. Then he spent a number of years here. Then the Islanders gave him $9 million for 3-years. Now, he’ll make $4.25 million more. Mandy has probably made well over $20 million playing hockey in the NHL. What has “possessed” these GM’s to do? Sutton has to be one of the luckiest players who ever played. Maybe even luckier than Jaroslav “Slowdry.”

Thrashy Thrashy

August 3rd, 2010
12:47 am

The cap room situation for other clubs will probably help us solve any roster spots we have open for players making a little more cash. No reason to be too hasty. The team looks to be in pretty good shape. Find the right fit.

Cornbread

August 3rd, 2010
2:10 am

Brendan- “Imagine how bad the Ducks felt, however, knowing that their 1st rounder they acquired from Philadelphia in the Pronger trade … would up being # 29 overall. That’s just some bad luck.”

I’d say the Ducks are counting their lucky stars after having #12 Cam Fowler and #29 Emerson Etem fall in their laps in this year’s draft. Hard to argue that they were not big winners.

World Be Free

August 3rd, 2010
5:33 am

Cornbread-12 and 29 were good numbers for the Ducks this year. Cannot believe Fowler fell that far, I was hoping we would have taken him but we will see how this works out. I remember when Petr Sykora fell like a rock; he had a better NHL career than alotta guys taken before him.

Red Light/Brendan-I clap for Darcy when he resigns. But on he other hand, I am so glad we have Dudley and Ramsay. Looking forward to this season.

Saw a license plate in TN this weekend-was it John Anderson’s?
plate stated -OM WTF

Smitty

August 3rd, 2010
6:44 am

How about giving Kennedy a shot here in Atlanta? He was one of the few Sabres I was impressed with during the Boston series last spring. I think he could be a top six forward in spite of his size. He is a gritty 2-way player and not that expensive. Cannot believe Darcy did this to this kid.

World Be Free

August 3rd, 2010
8:07 am

Smitty-Darcy has to go. He pays Pominville $5M+ year and let’s this kid go for $1M? I hope Kennedy signs here or wherever he exact his revenge on Darcy and his Charmin-like team.

Stroz-it’s one thing to have a player that is soft(Charmin)-it’s another to have 3/4 of a team that’s soft like the Sabres!

World Be Free

August 3rd, 2010
8:16 am

Brendan-Theodore is still unsigned. I do not know what he is asking, but I think he will go unsigned until mid season, when somebody needs a goalie due to long term injury. The Thrashers are candidates if an injury occurs, since they do not have an NHL ready goalie in the minors that is ready for prime time.

I do not know what teams see in Mandy. He fought early in his career, but refuses to drop the gloves at this stage in his career. The Ducks just moved a young defenseman to the Islanders then paid for Mandy; makes no sense. But that’s the league today.

Midfield

August 3rd, 2010
9:37 am

Sutton is a decent shot blocker and has reasonable skills in transition. Good coaches could milk some value out of him, I’m sure.

hockeymom92

August 3rd, 2010
10:24 am

Had no time to write yesterday since it was first day back from vacation, but I will say our household is thrilled with this move. Can’t wait to see what else Dudley has in store for us.

This is sorta off topic, but I wonder what it says about my priorities when I am sitting on the balcony watching the sunrise over the ocean and the beach cleaning dude is out there with his tractor raking the sand and all I can think of is that it really resembles a Zamboni and when the heck are they gonna drop the puck! Sad, I know…….

Red Light

August 3rd, 2010
10:51 am

Is Andy Sutton the second incarnate of Rod Langway or Larry Robinson? Of course not.

Is he a capable NHL defenseman? Yes.

By the time his two-year deal end with Anaheim, he will have played in 700+ games in the NHL and has averaged 18 minutes of ice time. Despite playing here and on the Island in some lean years, his career plus/minus rating is -26, and his +13 in 2005-06 ranks 3rd highest in club history among Thrashers defensemen (Hnidy +15 & Enstrom +14), and he was +6 in the playoff season. In fact, Sutton, Enstrom, Havelid and Hnidy are the only four d-men to have played in 100-plus games for Atlanta and managed a plus rating.

For a guy who was undrafted out of Michigan Tech, I’d say that’s a pretty good career.

kracker

August 3rd, 2010
11:24 am

For a laugh….Eklund Footballbuzz: Brett Favre retiring. Imagine if Favre and Forsberg had to pick out wallpaper together.

On Sutton: We all like to rag on him but he sure would give it up kneeling on the ice to block shots, hobble off, then come back and do it again.

Cornbread

August 3rd, 2010
11:26 am

Stay at home blueliners get no respect.

Joe Friday

August 3rd, 2010
11:47 am

He died his hair blue before our first playoff game. ’nuff said . . .

Red Light

August 3rd, 2010
11:51 am

OK Joe Friday…forgot about that, but…

Midfield

August 3rd, 2010
11:55 am

I thought it was Lehtonen who died his hair.

Alan R.

August 3rd, 2010
11:58 am

Don’t know if anyone has seen it, but our very own Pevs Dispenser has been interviewed recently. It’s a great read, and you can find it by clicking –> here <–

ben

August 3rd, 2010
12:10 pm

Congrats to Andy Sutton. That’s more NHL games than a lot of people. White was clearly past his prime while he was here. But things’ll get better for the team. We have a solid goalie for the first time since Pasi, and I think he’s better than that. Kari’s best days were in Europe as a child. Oh, he’ll keep on inflicting his “potential” for years. But AT BEST he’s a #2 at this level.

BlueSpark

August 3rd, 2010
12:20 pm

The saddest thing is that at one point, Mandy was our best defensemen.

I’d say that worse than being a pylon, he has a penchant for making borderline hits on opponents when his team already has the lead, thus riling up the opposing team and then losing the game.

Then again, I’m not an expert…

Thrashers27

August 3rd, 2010
12:32 pm

I agree, Spark…

During the summer, I usually get a bit of a Thrasher fix from Youtube. Yesterday I came acrossed video of a game against the Caps in ‘06, I believe…The Thrashers were beating the Caps soundly and it turned intoa brawl…mostly because Mandy took a cheap shot at a Caps player. Next thing you know everybody’s fighting. I remember several similar incidents where he had less than honorable hits. Was it Domi that he smashed into the glass that time? I know it was a Leafs player.

kracker

August 3rd, 2010
12:51 pm

Simmer squeezes another contract out of the BMs…two-way, though

ChrisBottaNHL Islanders give one-year, two-way contract to Jon Sim. Garth Snow praises Sim’s “unmatched work ethic.”

World Be Free

August 3rd, 2010
12:51 pm

hockeymom-I was at Harrah’s last weekend surfing Twitter as I was sitting in front of a slot machine. Zamboni on the brain is a good thing!

World Be Free

August 3rd, 2010
12:53 pm

Cornbread-to your point, Brendan Witt. Looks like a alot of the pre-lockout stay at home d-men are getting the hook.

glovesave29

August 3rd, 2010
1:21 pm

WBF – you can chalk that up to the removal of the center ice line for two line passes, and the tightening of the rules as to what a d-man can do in front of the net. If you are a cement footed d-man (cough, cough Valabik) you can no longer make up with it by being positionally sound. Either you join the rush and leave yourself open to the breakout via the long pass, or you stay back and leave your team outnumbered in the attack zone. And unless your name in Chris Pronger, the days of hacking an pushing in front of your own net are long gone. Stay at home d-men are not dinosaurs by any means, they just need to be really great skaters.

World Be Free

August 3rd, 2010
2:08 pm

glovesave-one of my biggest problems as a player is that I did not have the speed to compete at higher levels and you can’t replace footspeed that’s for sure. You noted something really important-the removal of the center line. That had a greater impact on the game than any other rule implemented. No center line is like removing “two steps” for fast guys and adding two steps for a defenseman.

Guys like Witt are outdated, except in the corners. That’s the place you really don’t want to run into a physical defenseman, more so than in front of the net. Harold Snepets, Ken Daneyko, Lee Fogolin or a bunch of other guys you see in those 70’s and 80’s retro games on NHL Network. They say the days of the enforcer are numbered, throw in the days of the stay at home D-man too. A real shame

Brendan

August 3rd, 2010
2:16 pm

Red Light, just like Exelby, Andy Sutton has far exceeded expectations for his career. Amazing to think Mandy was a + player here. How much did we pay him, for his years in Atlanta? I wonder if Sutton is pushing $30 million in career earnings.

glovesave29

August 3rd, 2010
2:30 pm

WBF – if ya have a cannon from the blue line, and are smart positionally – I can use you on my team. No one would EVER confuse us with, as you say a “higher level” squad!

I like the red line being taken out of the equation. It allows skill players to maximize their talents. And for the equally OPPOSITE reason, the trapezoid behind the net is a dumb rule as it takes away a talent from a player. As a goalie, I love to pass it up to a winger at the red, or even far blue line to start a break out. Usually it is a dump to my end to get in a line change, so often I forgo the icing to hit a teammate on the fly while the other team is shorthanded in the middle of a change. Gotta keep ‘em on their toes!

Harold Snepts…theres a name from the past. I remember him, the original “porn ’stache” while playing in those awful bright yellow “Duraflame log” unis the Canucks used to sport. If you can somehow use former WHA Jet Lars-Erik Sjoberg next time…then I will bow to you as the ultimate (after Brendan) hockey braniac!

glovesave29

August 3rd, 2010
2:40 pm

OK, sometimes a writer hits a thought you have dead on, and says it in such a way that you wish you could have thought of. Scott Burnside…kudos! Great quote on Brian Burkes silly desires as to what he wants in trade for Kaberle…

“GM Brian Burke would like to turn Kaberle into a top-six forward (and we’d like to turn that bale of straw in the backyard into a pile of gold, but we digress) before his no-trade clause kicks back in on Aug. 15″

Ha!

kracker

August 3rd, 2010
2:45 pm

BenThrashers Thrashers prospect Julian Melchiori has signed with the Kitchener Rangers (OHL). Thanks to @MLalancette for the tip. http://bit.ly/aViMcC

Brendan

August 3rd, 2010
2:48 pm

Bloggers, who would we say is our “all-time” best defenseman? I’m kind of at a loss. The second I come up with a name, I try to justify it with a plus-minus stat, or TOI, or points, or situational play. That is, could we use him in the PP unit, too?

And I’m hesitant to pick a player who was only here a year, like Kubina. When Zhitnik first arrived, he provided an immediate bandaid to some of our problems. Technically, our 1st ever All-Star was Petr Buzek. I can’t really feel that Exelby or Sutton was it. I’m sorta leaning towards Nic Havelid, but I haven’t looked at his stats yet. Gosh, off the top of my head, I might just go with Kubina.

glovesave29

August 3rd, 2010
2:51 pm

Brendan…easy, Adam Burt!

Tom Lysiak

August 3rd, 2010
2:53 pm

GS29, great description of the old Canucks unis, “duraflame” – HA!! I briefly thought about them the other night. I saw a Houston Astro player on ESPN and flashed back to the nasty old Astro jerseys. Then, somehow my mind wandered off to the old Canucks jersey. I don’t really like the current Canucks uniforms either, but those old ones SUCKED.

Red Light

August 3rd, 2010
2:56 pm

Brendan: No way he’s pushing $30 million, but it’s probably $20 million. I seem to recall we were all shocked at the contract Sutton signed with the Isles, as I believe he made $1.5 to $2 million in Atlanta the year before he departed.

You can still make up for a lack of speed with good reads, but I agree that it’s much more difficult now without the center line and the curtailing of clutching, grabbing and hooking.

Without a doubt, the Thrashers best ever defenseman has yet to play, but I’ll go along with Havelid for now.

GaVaHokie

August 3rd, 2010
3:07 pm

Interesting, wasn’t Melchiori the one dead-set on playing college?

Thrashers27

August 3rd, 2010
3:23 pm

Really good bit on the Thrashers. It’s nice to see that others have high hopes for our boys in Blue too.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=535218

Joe Friday

August 3rd, 2010
3:27 pm

“I thought it was Lehtonen who died his hair.”

Yep, and it was Mandy who talked him into it, they went to the salon together (wonder if they got mani-pedis while they were at it?). Who was our captain then, Mellanby? Whoever it was probably read them the riot act, what a couple of ninnies . . .

Brendan, David Harlock?

Havelid or Kubina. Let’s hope Bogosian makes us change that answer next summer.

Midfield

August 3rd, 2010
3:58 pm

I used to see Sutton in Buckhead a few times back in the day. He did not strike me as a hair-dying type. He looked more like a parking-an-SUV-in-three-parking-spaces type to me. But I may be wrong too.

World Be Free

August 3rd, 2010
4:12 pm

Glovesave-my 2 favorite pointmen had great “cannon” wrist shots-Denis Potvin and Chris Pronger (in his younger days). I saw Pronger blow one by Grant Fuhr in Buffalo one night-Prongs was 20 at the time, just a quick snap of the wrists-what a shot. The value of a great wrist shot when you have a winger on you is great than the booming slapper.

My mind wants me to play again, but my knees are telling me to keep the blades in the bag and the “ax” in the shed.

Red Light

August 3rd, 2010
4:19 pm

Mike Weaver will be back in the Southeast Division again. Signed a two-year deal with Florida today. $900k per season.

Tony C.

August 3rd, 2010
5:15 pm

A27

August 3rd, 2010
5:30 pm

Havelid and Shane Hnidy very underated and under utilized IMO. also WBF i feel the same way to… I miss playing very much:(

glovesave29

August 3rd, 2010
6:23 pm

No need to give up playing…our league has 10 levels of competition that include co-ed rec league and over 35 leagues. I’m in my mid-40’s and still playing the net. There are a ton of players in their 50’s and a few in their 60’s. Keeps ya feeling young.

Brendan

August 3rd, 2010
6:49 pm

I liked Shane Hnidy, too. He was very professional, A27. In the same season, he went from the pressbox to the top pairing blueliners. I forgot how we got ‘im, and I forgot how we lost ‘im. Probably trades or waiver claims. Hnidy was always in shape. I have to give him credit for that.

kracker

August 3rd, 2010
7:13 pm

WOW!!! twitter

dankamal In a chat w/Fanhouse’s Chris Botta, Rick Dudley suggests Dustin Byfuglien may move back to D. That would certainly mean more moves up front

Jack

August 3rd, 2010
7:34 pm

Kracker, saw that yesterday. He would obviously replace Kubina’s size, and a d man that could go to the crease. That would open up many options..

Red Light

August 3rd, 2010
7:49 pm

Brendan:

The Nashville Predators traded Shane Hnidy to the Atlanta Thrashers for a 4th round selection in 2006 (Niko Snellman who hasn’t played in the NHL). He signed with Anaheim as a free agent in 2007. He was then sent with a 6th-round pick to the Bruins for Brandon Bochenski, He played in Boston until last season when he signed as a free agent with the Wild. He is a free agent again this summer and has yet to sign. He made $750k last year and will turn 35 in November.

Not sure of his eye color!

Jack

August 3rd, 2010
7:52 pm

Thank you Red.

H.P. Clisters

August 3rd, 2010
9:19 pm

Slowdry and Mandy are featured in a new horror film: Attack of the Killer Pylons.

World Be Free

August 3rd, 2010
9:29 pm

glovesave-had a guy in our Buffalo group that was playing at 73 when I left in 1995. A27-maybe glovesave can talk us into coming out, even if for just one gave. Most of my gear belongs in the Smithsonian. Can’t forget the container for the falsies.

Havelid was my favorite-which just shows how pathetic our defenive core has been up till now.

Hokie P. Clisters

August 3rd, 2010
9:35 pm

Seriously, I have to agree that Sutton was decent while here. The only real dig I had was that he would instigate trouble without backing it up. I remember him causing a few ugly games but he always seemed to be off the ice when the rucus broke out. As for Slowdry….well I can’t remember too much there. And Kari….well let’s not go there. I’m still in therapy from reading Stendec’s rants.

kracker

August 3rd, 2010
9:43 pm

We should sign Niemi just for Stendec’s benefit.

Hokie P. Clisters

August 3rd, 2010
9:56 pm

Red Light and Tony C – I agree, Nick Havelid was solid and dependable most of the time he was here. Also he was a good mentor for Toby.

kracker

August 3rd, 2010
10:20 pm

And Nic is a nice guy, too, as well as a solid defenseman.

Not Blind

August 3rd, 2010
10:44 pm

Wasn’t it Sutton that LEVELED Sundin up in Toronto???? Huge open ice hit and I seem to remember it being in Toronto’s zone. Might have been Ex but I’m thinking it was Sutton. That is my all time favorite hit by a Thrasher.

Sparky (Smoothie)

August 3rd, 2010
10:50 pm

Actually, that was XLB who damn near killed Mats Sundin with his blindside hit. At least I think it would have been penalized under the new “head-protection” rules. Let’s see if I can youtube it.

World Be Free

August 3rd, 2010
10:50 pm

You just wish Sutton would have dropped the gloves more often. Isn’t that one of the issues we have with Doris?

World Be Free

August 3rd, 2010
10:52 pm

Sabres folk-Darcy gave a 16 minute explanation today as to why he cut Tim Kennedy. He should have just said “I am an idiot” and saved the world 15:50 seconds that we might need later in life.

Thrashers27

August 3rd, 2010
11:00 pm

Oh yeah, I remember that XLB hit on Sundin. Nasty! Speakin’ of which…Anybody heard if he has signed anywhere, or not. Call me sentimental, but I wouldn’t mind seeing him back here as a depth signing…say a two way deal.

WBF, I have really high hopes for Boris this year. He showed great improvement last year and I think he’s finally learning to use his size without drawing the ridiculous penalties. He’s still young!

Sparky (Smoothie)

August 3rd, 2010
11:03 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IPifDAomzQ

Yes sir, XLB done it. Sundin got lit up Salmela did when Carter plastered him in the crease after he scored a goal.

Problem with Valabik is he’s big, but his balance sucks and he’s a worthless fighter.

Smitty

August 3rd, 2010
11:15 pm

I believe Quinn had a big part in the Kennedy decision. Golisano and Larry Quinn must have gone to the same management school as the ASG. Hopefully ASG is learning something from Dudley.

Brendan

August 3rd, 2010
11:45 pm

I hate to sound like such a Darcy Regier apologist, but I have to believe this was Larry Quinn’s doing. The whole thing makes absolutely no sense to me. But I’m an outsider, for the Sabres. I need Rob, Tom, Smitty, WBF, Spudd Webb, Smoothie and others to explain to me, like I’m a 4-year old, how the Buffalo Sabres would cut ties with a “local boy” over $200,000, when the team is $6-7 million under the cap?

This has to be Quinn’s doing. Here’s my guess. Quinn got angry that Kennedy elected for arbitration, after such little time in the league. The way I see it, the player, any player, has the right to try to make as much money as he can. So, Kennedy thought he was a $1 million guy, for his 10 goals. Or whatever. Maybe he saw the Jim Slater contract and had visions of grandeur. Slater actually has 6 NHL seasons under his belt. Okay, so … I can’t blame him for trying. But Quinn can, and does. The arbitration award is $800,000. Instead of just paying him, Quinn hypothetically figures, “I’ll fix Kennedy’s little red wagon. It was his lifelong dream to be a Sabre. Well, that ends now!!” So, now, Kennedy is a free agent. Because of $200,000. LOL. It’s kinda funny. Would we do this with Saponari? (Is that his name?, who is from the Atlanta area.) No, I doubt it. And R.Stroz says the songbird sings, “cheap, cheap, cheap.”

Ya know, rubbin’ my chin … Buffalo must NOT CARE what their image is around the league. Look at the list. It’s staggering. Brian Campbell, Jay McKee, J.P. Dumont, Chris Drury, Danny Briere, Toni Lydman, Henrik Tallinder, Mike Grier, Marty Biron, Ty Conklin, etc. And one wonders if Vanek would still be there, without the RFA offersheet. I’m starting to wonder if the Sabres’ ownership is any better than the Octocluster. I’m trying to think of who STAYYYYYED in Buffalo. Let’s see … Derek Roy. Pomminville. Ummmn. Ummmn. Patrick Lalime. Okay, Ryan Miller. Is Mair still there? Gaustad?? Paetsche?? Ellis?? Sekera?? Ahhh, what’s his face, with concussions. One hit away from a permanent drool cup. Connelly, I think. He re-signed. Well, I guess that’s better than we’re doing, with our awesome track record of re-upping Eric Boulton and Jim Slater. And until Slava Kozlov signs somewhere else, which I’m sure he will, he’d be the 3rd guy we hang onto in perpetuity.

stendek

August 4th, 2010
12:43 am

Hi Rawhide. Hope all is well for you and yours. Missed ya big fellow. Still deeply hurt over fact that gutless arrogant selfish Maryann Hosebag has his name enscribed on Stanley Cup. True travesty! No just in sports whatsover. Glad Ilya Kovalchoke showed his true colors. Did New Jersey proud huh? Well. Could not have happened to a nicer bunch of Devils! Wonder who powers that be have chosen as predetermined champions this season? Wish I had inside track on choice. Lots of money to be made! Gear up for season Bill. Should be some nice moments to come. Son in harm way. I know you understand friend. Blessed be. Drop the puck already! Getting set to jeer, uh, huh, aw, oh. All gone! Getting ready to cheer. GO THRASHERS!

World Be Free

August 4th, 2010
5:59 am

Smoothie, “Mr. Video” and you are right on with Valabik’s balance. How did this guy get drated 10th overall!?
Brendan and smitty-you are correct on Quinn, but if I were as good as Darcy is supposed to be, I would get the heck out of Buffalo. Raise ticket prices are cut talent, unbelieveable. Glad we have Duds!
Who is the stentek imposter?

Rawhide

August 4th, 2010
7:21 am

stendek - Please extend my best wished and gratitude to your son the next time you speak with him.

Not Blind

August 4th, 2010
7:42 am

Ex’s hit: I don’t know if it would be penalized or not with the new rule. It WAS a body check and that is what knocked MS on his backside but his head did snap back. Still my favorite Thrasher hit. Sundin didn’t get punished enough imo.

World Be Free

August 4th, 2010
7:58 am

Brendan-just makes you happy to be cheering for the Thrashers, knowing that there are teams out there that have bigger problems than us. Tronna, Calgary, teams with cap issues that don’t make the playoffs! We complain about not spending enough (so far), but I am pleased to cheer for a team that manages the cap compared to those who have dead money on their backs. How are these teams supposed to improve if they cannot bring in players to their NHL rosters? I still say our internal cap is $50M, which is OK for now.

FYI-Mair and Ellis are UFAs, Gaustad is overpaid for a 3rd liner, Paetsch is gone and Sekera looks like a bust. Less money for Buffalo payroll is more money in Larry’s pocket.

rob

August 4th, 2010
8:05 am

Brendan,
Sabres will always be one of those teams with an outside shot. The fans there have to single handedly be responsible for at least several wins a season. Something to be said for a packed place all screaming for the home town team and dogging the opponents. Makes an overall ordinary group play over their heads and find a way to make things happen. And Ruff behind the bench as an ex-player, captain, and fan favorite, there himself adds to it also. Goes to show there is no rhyme or reason to the passion of hockey fans, they support the TEAM there and villify the ones running it at the same time. I can only hope Atlanta one day supports it’s team(s) with that kind of enthusiasm.

World Be Free

August 4th, 2010
8:07 am

rob

August 4th, 2010
8:14 am

AND Kennedy had that HORRIBLE turnover in his own zone that lead to a game winner this playoff season. I can see the team thinking it bad business for someone who let this happen asking for a raise. I honestly think these guys are overpaid anyway, as are all pro atheletes, but that is another story altogether.

Smitty

August 4th, 2010
8:26 am

Buffalo’s case of RDD is a lot worse than the Thrashers. They sell out almost every game and get a few thousand in the plaza outside the arena watching on the big screen. Quinn was a bust his first time around the Sabres and he has not improved.

Gotta give ASG a little bit of credit for bringing Dudley in.

rob

August 4th, 2010
8:37 am

WBF,
none of that article is news. they have always done things on the CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP there, getting the most out of it. I thought the most relavent part of it, in regards to the Thrashers, is the money they say was “wasted” on Max.
I know there are a lot of people here saying sign him, I am not one though. Don’t panic and sign someone just to sign someone. Wait, be patient, and find someone who is going to fit into what Duds is trying to make this team into……a tough, solid, hungry group who will be no fun to play against. Hard hitting, forechecking hockey is exciting to watch, and if this team can play that way, that play will lead to more turnovers and scoring chances. I won’t mind watching a hard working group lose games if they play with some pride. I look back at that DREADFUL Caps game last year and watching the pathetic effort put out by the whole team, my memory of that game from the 7th row was Evander Kane, a rookie, coming into the corner late in the 3rd period and throwing a solid check and following it up with another one. He did that a lot last year and the reason it stuck out to me at that time was he didn’t give up. There were plenty of “veterans” who were out there coasting but Kane seemed to take it personally, and threw several good checks that game even though it was obvious the team was not there to play. That type of game cannot be exceptable, not to the fans, players, coaches, management, or owners. I think Duds has put in place a group who will not do that……not without there being repercussions anyway.

Rawhide

August 4th, 2010
8:45 am

We take our discussion from RDD to SSS (Sophomore Slump Syndrome)